Change attacking and blocking in water

[median void]

Swimming is a valid and useful tactic, however it should be a high risk tactic.

As it stands currently, trying to use ranged against anyone in water is much more difficult than on land/walls as the engine doesn't seem to register hitboxes that well. This results in someone in light/medium gear effectively able to block any ranged attack while in the water with little/no counter to it.

If it was to remain, then attacking or blocking while swimming should carry significantly more stamina drain than is currently implemented in game. This would still allow it as a tactic, but it would balance it from being abused due to poor hitbox design.

[desert gull]

...or change it to unable to block and attack in water 👍

[mellow ravine]

Add a damage bonus to hitting people in the water melee or ranged gg no re

[bright zealot]

ye but what if they block all hits, you cant even kick

[mellow ravine]

If archers and throwers did say the same damage bonus melee gets on archers with their bow out I think it would be fine without completely gutting swimming outside of combat

[manic peak]

What you mean "counter", if he is in water let him be xD we have a flag there or wa? Some strategic point that midland has to capture before attacking the tenebrock?

Or does someone prevent you from wearing light to swim better?

[manic peak]

You lads always wanna make the game lined up straight to the Yours favor, that's not right in my opinion. Think deeper, look wider, enjoy the adventures, swim in waters or touch the grass. That's sandbox do what you like to do, cmon

[mellow ravine]

Swimming isn’t a big deal I just can see why it frustrates people you’re ganking some guy and because he has more stamina he can just swim into the water shield out and there isnt anything you can do

[manic peak]

Swim after him no?

A true warrior uses not only hes weapon but the landscape and other mechanics

That's makes game interesting no?

[mellow ravine]

swimming doesn’t really add anything to fights, people just use it to waste your time or be annoying generally, thats my pov at least

[manic peak]

Annoying for zerg yeah

[broken plover]

Watching some guy go in and out of the water for 30 min straight is neither interesting nor realistic (which is something GV tries to be)

[broken plover]

Annoying for everyone but the swimmer. It just makes the content worse. It happened to me and a party of newbies the other day in Tenebrok and we were terribly bored about it, especially because they were saying the same guy had been doing just that for the last 3 days.

We actually wanted to push Hogsten or Volkvar, but couldn't because that player was keeping Tenebrok burning and we were just too tired of his Scooby Doo gameplay to do something about it. We also didn't have a good archer with us who could shoot and kill him after breaking his shield in one of his "approaches". At the end we simply left, out of boredom, and the guy came a few minutes later and pvdoored it.

The game shouldn't allow this type of dull and goofy gameplay when it's trying to be realistic and competitive.

[manic peak]

Dudes, wha a softy like you now are?
You didn't where there when Kuzhan and Berkay did swimming fest slaughtering the midland elite like a cabbages, and you were not here yet when Pechurman was appearing from the deep waters on your shore...
You were not looted by vpierdol x3 times shoulders gloves boots (9 equipment slots in total for back than loot points were more)

[broken plover]

I wasn't there either when people used to die at 30 years old because of a dental abscess and that doesn't mean it was good or desirable