#REMOVE AUTO DAEODON AND SHADOWMANE

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trail epoch
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I was able to soak over 1 million worth of adv and many capped tek turrets while never losing more than 1k dmg on my stego. It will for sure kill the server quicker if that stuff stays around.

willow yacht
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The auto shadow mane buff is broken u can rocket run turrets with that and a few other things

glad wedge
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wtf u mean auto shadow mane buff???

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on asa??

willow yacht
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Yes with recent wipe it was added to deinotherium

wraith gulch
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the shadowmane buff is absolutely busted, it has 0 counterplay other than lymantria and that doesn t work due to the fsct you can get like 300% movement speed

cloud glen
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Auto daedon and shoadomane buff is good if u cant counter people running in ur base thats a different issue there is plant y mammoth pick desmo pick reaper spin block entrance with a stego or carbo and rhino charge into it bola and more

wraith gulch
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oh yeah?

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lemme show u something then

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ill add skill points in singleplayer as i lsot my main character and dont have lost colony skills anymore so i can show you

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this is without the shadowmane buff that increases movement speed by 50% and without focal chili that ads 25%

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in total i can get around 80-90% more movement speed just from focal chili, shadowmane buff, carcha speed buff, this is without the speed buff lost colony perk ads and without the other perks that increase movement speed

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now pair this up with the constant lag beer battle tartar and capped flak

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it does not matter what you do where you live unless ur in a 10 sec crouch u wont keep up i will pretty much run trough all of ur defences and not get shot once cause i go too fast

spring fable
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tartare gives 50% movement aswell 🙂

wraith gulch
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perhaps im missing something maybe its not as broken as this but I tested it multiple times in game even went to deadzone and i was moving faster than a carcha

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ah yes tartat plus 50%, so ultimately i will teleport in ur crafting loot all of ur rep and go out and u wont even see me cause im apparently the flash in ark ascended

spring fable
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its soooo nice i love it

wraith gulch
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😭

spring fable
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just build your shit right and u wont have the problem of them running behind your wall and into crafting

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unless the cave is so small that u can only fit 1 wall

wraith gulch
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it was just an example

spring fable
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then ur cooked

wraith gulch
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hypothetical situation

gray fulcrum
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Yes daedon so op please remove it, Daedon doesn't lose hunger that's too OP

wraith gulch
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i mean daeodon is eh

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just kill the daeodon

spring fable
cloud glen
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u gonna die before u get to the wall

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have u played ase?

spring fable
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thats with ONLY the spirit rush

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if you add focal, shadow buff and tartare you get like 300% or more movement speed

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and there more buffs you can add to that like speedy harvester aswell

cloud glen
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yes but even with all buffs except shadowmane u cant run a wall

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shadowmane makes so u can run a wall

spring fable
cloud glen
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i wanna see that

spring fable
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i cna without shadowmane

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no problem

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ill send u clips of me doing it in dms

cloud glen
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show me for example at a pearl cave

wraith gulch
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and ur also not counting the fact the server isn t on 50 ping

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oh also

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with that abiliotyu can phase trough tamed craetures

cloud glen
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not enemy

lavish sail
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people who have problems against shadowmane buff are just garbage 😘 👌🏽 🥸, but infinite daedon is kinda broken

cloud glen
wraith gulch
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u can go trough bodies

wraith gulch
cloud glen
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so ur saying its a problem cause offline u can run thru bodys

wraith gulch
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no, im saying its a problem cause I would have 350% movement speed

cloud glen
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and? have u played ase

wraith gulch
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ahh thats balanced right?

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yes

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and on ase stuff bugged out at 220%

cloud glen
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ohhh u must be high now i get it since u only talk random stuff

wraith gulch
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do you mind showing me how many hours you have in ase?

wraith gulch
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especially if its lagging

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ur so clueless, if ur this clueless on how the game works why even bother talking, ur trying to justify me having 350% movement speed with very little effort even though im actively teleporting trough the ground and walls

cloud glen
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u are saying im clueless bro u said 220% movement speed on ase was max are u hearing urself pls explain that

wraith gulch
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where did i say 220% was max?

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screenshot it and show me where i said that

cloud glen
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ok i just got the videos from @spring fable its offline running shit but the shadowmane isnt supposed to be a buff for offlining its for online raids lol i know yall dont know what that is but its when u attack a tribe online which is hard against a good tribe since this game is extremly defence biased and u can easy stop people from making progress and this is supposed to help against that offline everything is broken

cloud glen
wraith gulch
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do you not think that if i wanted to say that 220% movement speed was max i wouldve said exactly just that

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instead i mentioned how stuff bugged out at 220% movement speed like tek turret ai or if its high ping general turret ai would bug out completely for whatever reason the game had

cloud glen
humble mortar
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i think the buff is awesome, adds something new to asa after all the desmo meta. finally running on foot makes a lil sense when u soaked a good bit

cloud glen
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ok still shadowmane is supposed to make online more doable thats the whole point of it

wraith gulch
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if im not mistaken cap on official was arond 170 ish maybe a bit more i never really got more than 160% at all whenever i played and boosted servers had way higher caps

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okay i get the fact its supposed to make onlines doable

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they still are, yi lings fly past turrets literally the ai is atrocious

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i just showed a clip of me traversing 20 fopundations in 4 ish seconds without the shadowmane buff or the 4 other buffs curently in the game those being carcha battle tartar focal chili and shadowmane

cloud glen
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thats the game lol offline everything is sooooo op with racer u can drop a tower in 15min on online raids people counter ur yi ling they dont just watch

wraith gulch
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and if im not mistaken refreshed from ice cold canteens gives you a slight movement speed buff

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u can wipe a wtower with a racer even online if the player is average

cloud glen
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yes but those people are wiped within the first week or two

wraith gulch
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and most ppl on here are average, you gotta take in consideration most ppl are on console a big majority are and they have pretty strict limits considering theyre on a controller

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thats not my point

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my point 300%+ movement speed is like not balanced whatsoever

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you guys complaina bout desmo meta and how shadowmane buff is supposed to help it even though im pretty sure u can shadow mane buff desmos

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do you realize as is you can get aropund turrets with desmos without getting shot 100% of the time

cloud glen
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it is totally go fob a good tribe @strange halo for example and test how good 300% movement speed is

wraith gulch
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100% of the time as in out of idk 100 bullets only 80 would hit or 70 or 90 but they will still ignore u sometimes just cause of the speed and dive mechanic plus hitbox of that specific tame

cloud glen
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yeah its desmos thats their whole thing u know how u can counter those Plant z bola desmo pick mamoth pick whip and more

wraith gulch
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but desmos are like never an issue on asa cause whips actually land on asa compared to ase

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perhaps you re not understanding my point completely

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do you speak another language?

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maybe it ll be easier to communicate what i want to say in ur native language

cloud glen
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u saying 300% movement speed is an issue

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im telling u it isnt since u can counter it easy

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maybe u gotta get a dictionary and check some words

wraith gulch
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do you have a hiden tech that slows me down perhaps

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Verstehen Sie Deutsch?

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i feel like you re just trying to ragebait at this point

cloud glen
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bro i told u messages ago how to counter it plant y bola desmo pick mamoth pick reaper spin lymantria and more

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block entrance with dino

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giga bite

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placing small pillar to just run against

wraith gulch
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mammoth buff, you go trough the lymantria at 300% i tested it yesterday

cloud glen
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then take the lymantria out

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still leaves u with a shit ton of ways people wont just let u run

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if they got some brain

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bear traps

wraith gulch
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yeah but this isn t all about raiding this could apply in any scenario ever

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i can get a deinotherium and the perk day 2

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perhaps even day 1 if i play enough

cloud glen
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yes and ?

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whats the difference

wraith gulch
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have you seen how fast i was goinf without the other buffs

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just the perk

cloud glen
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thats slow

wraith gulch
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the perk alone gives me 100% movement speed, i can add 30% more from other skill trees and i can add 200% more from items and dinos

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😭

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yeah but you d never have the perk alone

cloud glen
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yes thats what its for

wraith gulch
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yeah no we re just spining in circles, i say something i bring up a point then you say absolutely nithing regarding anything you just throw stuff out there, atp ur speaking just to speak

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discord credits farming fr

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i respect the hustle🔥

cloud glen
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ok lets go by ur logic here hear me out
lets remove flak u get dmg resistance 50% + 15% + beer resistance + 15% dmg resistance

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by skills and tames and items

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so why not remove flak

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flak gives soooo much resistance its broken

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there are always ways to buff urself or shit it wont get better but this shadowmane buff is supposed to help in raids that are online nobody gives a shit if a tame or player runs fast af outside of raids use it if u want if it would be to broken everyone would do so but 30sec buff outside of raids doesnt do shit

wraith gulch
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comparing damage reduction with draw backs to full on movement speed🤦🏼‍♂️

cloud glen
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bro u dont get it movement speed is not that deep

spring fable
cloud glen
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its only good for u enemy wont give a shit since hes wiped either way in most cases

spring fable
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u make 0 sense

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he said movement doesnt matter if offline

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ofc it does instead of having to soak some turrets before being able to run past the wall it makes you able to just run past instantly

wraith gulch
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why does mango always change what ppl say he always adds stuff

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he changes stuff around to match his perception and understanding

spring fable
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lets say they are online right and i havent started raiding yet they dont know im about to run past their wall

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i run in behind he realizes his turrets went off

wraith gulch
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oh also andrewsarchuses get shadowmane buff

spring fable
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but he dont know im already inside his shit

wraith gulch
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dont the andrews alaso have a insane movement speed buff where they sort of dash

spring fable
cloud glen
wraith gulch
cloud glen
# spring fable but he dont know im already inside his shit

then the tribe got other problems than shadomane buff lol since he cant build a base properly if u are able to drop a wall freely from behind without any issue or anything then the tribe ur raiding is a bob tribe natural selection u could do the same with owl then probably

lavish sail
spring fable
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complete drones

cloud glen
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yes thats why they get wiped week 1-2

formal crystal
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Meow

cloud glen
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thats always been like this wont change but in endgame against good tribes shadowmane buff is needed

cloud glen
spring fable
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faster

cloud glen
formal crystal
spring fable
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idc who u are how good you are ill fob it if i have somewhat compentent tribemates

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but sadly i cant seem to find any good tribemates on this game

errant tiger
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The daeodon is legit, keep that

near peak
restive shard
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Asa as it is is heavily defender sided. Compare that to ase where u could be run over in the blink of an eye.
No normal person builds "turret walls" or just ground turrets. Most turrets nowadays are on Walls or ceilings which u wont reach with ur lil player rocket run.
We also have orp which makes it impossible to do a player rocket run offline and how some ppl said already every halfway decent tribe will be able to defent a player run online

willow yacht
willow yacht
cloud glen
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600% movement speed

latent bobcat
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daedon now loses hunger properly

cloud glen
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yes it loses hunger i saw

spring fable
spring fable
near peak
spring fable
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it was goated

restive shard
upper thistle
restive shard
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If u wanna be mad for the sole reason to be mad go be a karen in a grocery store but ur argument gets devalued by a lot of other FAKTS and if u can't get that it's pretty much on you

upper thistle
spring fable
spring fable
strange halo
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i think we should keep this devil

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its not even that broken

humble mortar
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it really isnt

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makes stuff simply more interesting

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if your defense is so bad that a player with 300% movement takes ur base down esp. online, you should really work on sum else

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300 % movement player is not that deep

viscid prairie
cold matrix
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People are complaining about stuff that is gonna come with the game eventually anyway. You might as well get used to it now and be prepared for it later.

strange halo
cloud glen
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people would cry 24/7 i cant wait for it

cold matrix
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Porting a fully working astro is extremly hard, and its coming to the game in a month or 2 anyway if they are on time

strange halo
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cant wait

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also that thing not even that op

cloud glen
strange halo
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what u gonna do with that on my cave base that cant even fit a stego

cloud glen
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to remove it

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gonna be fun af

cloud glen
strange halo
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like every cave

cold matrix
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Cave raiding is not a problem on ASA what so ever

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Outside fights, towers, fortnites etc are (vs people that have a brain and knows how to stop racers n dreads)

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Astros will help a lot

cloud glen
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yes will make the game so much more bearable

cold matrix
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Same with chelons they come at same time

cloud glen
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i think dreads are basically the new chellons

cold matrix
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Worse in my opinion ngl

cloud glen
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really i think the knockback and stuff is crazy

cold matrix
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Chelons are good even if they are not capped, dreads only really becoming extremly strong at like 100+ muts

cloud glen
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yeah might need a resi buff

strange halo
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yall already know they gonna add the new maps op dinos that break the game are gonna come out anyways so the old dinos prob wont even be as good depending what they add

cloud glen
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i mean gen2 gonna be weird and crazy Jets bomber and capital ships like wtf

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bomber sounds balanced

restive shard
grave shadow
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Is Daedon's auto-heal disabled?

upper thistle
latent bobcat
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its balanced now

humble mortar
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way better than before

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it was wayyy too op