also that's some bullshit
#🏈 Football General Chat + Gamethread + Arthur
olive knot
giants might be the worst team in the league
muted valley
Lets goo
olive knot
and I started 3 of them in fantasy 🙃
muted valley
#KeepPoinding
Panthers covered the spread, under 40.5 points, legette had 3+ receptions, and Tracy scored a TD
brave bison
pls garbage lineup bring me victory!!!
alpine grove
and I started 3 of them in fantasy 🙃
no way
Jones?
I almost got tricked late last night so can’t blame you if you did
olive knot
yea rip
it was between him or bo nix vs the chiefs, which are not good options to have
alpine grove
I went Herbert cuz he was available 🙏🏽
wanted Rodgers but for some reason the Lamar owner added him
woeful topaz
russ is never beating the pickens merchant allegations
muted valley
Colts qb room:
alpine grove
alright mac jones
I love that he’s cooking and he’s giving nothing to BTJ so far 🙏🏽🙏🏽
brave bison
okay so we're in the same boat 💀
alpine grove
😆😆
brave bison
helping etienne is not what i meant Mac.
brave bison
😐
muted valley
I hope they demolish them 😈😈
I hope the entire afc south loses this week
alpine grove
haha understandable
unborn vale
MVS tuddy
muted valley
https://tenor.com/view/mvs-mvsfanclub-gif-22026222
I have his jersey
unborn vale
wasnt he one of the fastest players in the league at one point
muted valley
Probably
alpine grove
wasnt he one of the fastest players in the league at one point
bro you remember our trade
unborn vale
slightly
alpine grove
was it MVS for Hockenson?
😂
that one year
Then I packaged Hockenson after his 40 burger for DHop
muted valley
MVS TD
woeful topaz
where is mvs lol
woeful topaz
holy shit
muted valley
where is mvs lol
New orleans
zealous osprey
Fire eberflus
olive knot
the year is 2070. the bears have just fired Ryan Pace III and Jason Nagy-Grossman, and have decided to bring in Pat Matricia and Eric Bieniemy out of retirement to support their 2nd year QB Johnny Manziel Jr. Sr.
alpine grove
the year is 2070. the bears have just fired Ryan Pace III and Jason Nagy-Grossma...
Joe Barry Jr awaits for Pat Matricia’s firing
alpine grove
GUYS
BAKER
ON 4TH AND LONG
STIFF ARMS BOSA
AND THROWS TO WHITE FOR FIRST DOWN
HOLY SHIT
woeful topaz
STIFF ARMS BOSA
couldnt happen to a better guy
frail harness
Baker is fucking nails
frail harness
Yeah that can’t happen
alpine grove
Chiefs have black magic man
muted valley
Facts
acoustic pilot
Russ hasn't lost a game yet has he?
alpine grove
nope
muted valley
Russ hasn't lost a game yet has he?
I mean commanders can still win
muted valley
But i know you don't want them too
muted valley
Why did patterson stop
acoustic pilot
Oh they're punting
alpine grove
WWWW
muted valley
They're doing hard count
alpine grove
Daniels aura gonna get him the win 👍🏽
acoustic pilot
I forget some teams don't have Dan Campbell or Nick Sirianni
acoustic pilot
AHAHA
muted valley
Damn he's crying
woeful topaz
really don't like the commanders not getting the first down at the end there
looked like they had it and it also kinda looked like the steelers defender was grabbing him by the helmet lol
long knot
muted valley
Goedert TD
brave bison
yet again made the wrong play between daniels and kyler 😭
muted valley
Davante finally got a catch
true elbow
Nope
olive knot
tank dell for 13 catches, 250 yds and 4 TDs
muted valley
tank dell for 13 catches, 250 yds and 4 TDs
If he doesn't get injured
alpine grove
Davante finally got a catch
they feeding him for PPR leagues
game is over and bro got like 6 receptions
😆😆
acoustic pilot
Mike McCarthy is getting fired
true elbow
Our offense is trash w/o nico
Lmao bro stop
olive knot
game is over and bro got like 6 receptions
its kinda crazy how washed he looks
the jae crowder of football
acoustic pilot
Doug Pederson still having a job is crazy to me
muted valley
Just watch
I will
muted valley
@true elbow
We need to target carlton davis
Congratulations to Buccaneers CB Carlton Davis on worst coverage player of the week!
29.3 coverage grade
9 targets
8 receptions allowed
124 yards
3 touchdowns
Perfect 158.3 passer rating when targeted
I forgot this was last time he played us
Also it was tank dell who was cooking us
brave bison
go lions
woeful topaz
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/jonmachota/status/1855776226578743361
brave bison
you're so dumb jerry jones.
woeful topaz
Why not put up curtains over the windows?
Jerry: “Well let’s tear the damn stadium down and build another one? Are you kidding me?
“Everybody has got the same thing. Every team that comes in here has the same issues.
“I’m saying, the world knows where the sun is. You get to know that almost a year in advance. Someone asked me about the sun. What about the sun? Where’s the moon?”
olive knot
acoustic pilot
https://fxtwitter.com/jonmachota/status/1855776226578743361
Yeah
The Sun was on the Eagles side of the field in the first half
Dallas still didn't capitalize
surreal hare
you're so dumb jerry jones.
I really did want better for coach McCarthy
surreal hare
Yup
acoustic pilot
Idc
The Lions will randomly put up 40 with Goff only having 100 yards
muted valley
texans outfits very christmas ornament-y
We are wearing them on Christmas too
brave bison
fye
acoustic pilot
RB stock up 1000k
true elbow
They are ok
muted mirage
this is a fun game
muted valley
Pitre been great
muted valley
METCHIE FIRST CAREER TD
brave bison
having himself a game
muted mirage
HAHA
olive knot
taiwan legend john metchie
true elbow
this is a fun game
Yep
muted valley
wow AND texans get the ball after half
If we score a TD
mint edge
Goff is crumbling
muted valley
Trading ints lol
olive knot
jared goff when his oline can't block for 10 seconds straight, his running backs aren't breaking tackles for 75 yards, and ben johnson just wants to go home
true elbow
Jared Goof
muted mirage
Houston's jerseys are so sexy
mint edge
Jared Goff is seeing ghosts
true elbow
Go Pack Go means the Lions freaking SUCK!!!!
true elbow
Seen enough Lions won
unborn vale
we got ourself a game tonight lol
muted mirage
Lmao
true elbow
Knew it
muted mirage
how u just leave him open like that
mint edge
Bates likes to live life on the edge
unborn vale
Bates so good
zealous osprey
Incompetent coaching man
All chicago sports fans 💔
muted valley
All chicago sports fans 💔
Well you guys didn't have serious super bowl hopes this season
Like stroud, demeco, and slowik all brain dead
Worst 2nd half team in the league
zealous osprey
Yeah it's brutal. But going toe to toe with the lions is impressive regardless of how the game looked
frail harness
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/Cambeezy_/status/1855811598297776491
frail harness
This is crazy work
muted valley
Man if we don't steam roll the cowboys I'm going to be so upset
alpine grove
Man if we don't steam roll the cowboys I'm going to be so upset
Y’all will, I’m sure of it 😤
muted valley
Y’all will, I’m sure of it 😤
We are finally playing a team with bad IDLs
So maybe we won't allow too much pressure inside
woeful topaz
Man if we don't steam roll the cowboys I'm going to be so upset
thats how i felt for the first quarter and some of eagles cowboys
"what do you mean it's 7-6?"
muted valley
Eagles cowboys had the same TO ratio as lions texans except eagles won by 28
It's just so frustrating because we are right there
alpine grove
very happy I started Eagles D this weekend 😈
muted valley
Honestly texans got a top tier defense atp
Defense been exceeding expectations while offense been disappointing
Great game from them and we were missing WAJ and harris still on IR
Hopefully we win the next 3 games, figure out issues at the bye and then get hot in time for the playoffs
true elbow
i was right about jordan love just not caleb
What are you some type of Bears fan?
woeful topaz
please do not call him lombardi lenny
muted valley
Next 3 qbs we play are lance/rush, levis, and Mac jones
zealous osprey
Woke up pissed today knowing shane waldron and matt eberflus are still employed
muted valley
Woke up pissed today knowing shane waldron and matt eberflus are still employed
Same but with slowik
woeful topaz
Woke up pissed today knowing shane waldron and matt eberflus are still employed
waldron, flus, slowik, mccarthy, pederson
some more im sure
zealous osprey
How does pederson still have a job too 💀
olive knot
daboll prob on the hot seat too
woeful topaz
maybe khan's got his yacht parked in a place with no service
and he thinks the jags are undefeated
olive knot
not cause he cant call plays but because he keeps putting out a qb who cant execute them
woeful topaz
daboll prob on the hot seat too
daniel jones is getting benched for sure this week
zealous osprey
Daboll should be but giants have bigger problems
olive knot
its insane how he's in his 6th season and pretty much every rookie qb can read the field better than him
muted valley
Daboll should be but giants have bigger problems
Caleb mught be benched?
woeful topaz
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https://twitter.com/BoogCB/status/1856031068446699918
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https://twitter.com/andrewsiciliano/status/1856038076822471089?s=46
olive knot
welcome back luke getsy
modest quailBOT
https://twitter.com/mikerenner_/status/1855928044256374970?s=46
zealous osprey
Caleb mught be benched?
Delusion
Caleb is the last person we should be blaming for Chicago's generational incompetency
muted valley
zealous osprey
Never wear those red uniforms again
muted valley
Never wear those red uniforms again
We are on christmas
muted valley
Never having hope for Texans again
I blame the offense
We actually have a super bowl caliber defense
true elbow
We actually have a super bowl caliber defense
Defense forgot how to stop the run after the half
muted valley
Defense forgot how to stop the run after the half
Yea
If we just played the way we did in the first half for an entire game no one could beat us
Well
halcyon torrent
What are you some type of Bears fan?
literally
smoky bough
Brandon McManus has been your best player the past few weeks pipe down
Idk how to put this to you but you j got shit on by the pats
true elbow
Brandon McManus has been your best player the past few weeks pipe down
So Josh Jacobs don't exist
smoky bough
U had khalil herbert praying and thanking god for leaving your organization
Oh and
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/draftrisk/status/1855685950761783516?s=46
true elbow
I give credit when credit is due @halcyon torrent Justin Fields wasn't the problem with the franchise, a matter a fact y'all probably would of had a better record with him than restarting completely and having a new qb learn a whole new system
Now you gotta rebuild and develop a QB all over again, the Bears suck because the organization makes too many poor decisions
and on Sunday, I suggest you don't watch the game
its not gonna be good
zealous osprey
We actually have a super bowl caliber defense
Interesting. You would think it would be the other way around from expectations
zealous osprey
and y’all don’t even use kmet
So true. A top 5 tight end when we actually give him the ball
brazen anvil
apparently that was only the second time in nfl history a team that threw 5 interceptions down 15+ points came back to win
man this Lions team is something else, I love this team.
acoustic pilot
I hate the Lions
I feel like it should only be ONE team that does unnecessarily goofy shit
And that's the Eagles
woeful topaz
i liked it better when they sucked
acoustic pilot
Because what kind of crash out team goes for a hail Mary pass with 1 second to go in the first half instead of taking a knee
olive knot
I feel like it should only be ONE team that does unnecessarily goofy shit
And t...
may i interest you in our finest pittsburgh steelers
muted valley
apparently that was only the second time in nfl history a team that threw 5 inte...
No
It happened in 1970
acoustic pilot
may i interest you in our finest pittsburgh steelers
No
olive knot
muted valley
I'm excited for next season now
acoustic pilot
We're still in this season
brazen anvil
No
i said second, last and only other time was the baltimore colts over the bears in 1970
they showed that stat on espn last night going back to 1930 - i imagine prior to that very few teams used the forward pass that much - so i doubt there were games like that prior to 1930
brazen anvil
i liked it better when they sucked
i watched them suck for most of my life, so this is really special.
brazen anvil
they didnt lose tho
muted valley
i said second, last and only other time was the baltimore colts over the bears i...
Oops mb
That first half was the worst the lions looked all season
But that 2nd half was more on the texans coaching then anything
Like lions had a great 2nd half but honestly I don't think it was good enough if the texans had better coaching
brazen anvil
also their oline got worn down - and they have a young qb who is down his best receivers
and the lions never quit even getting beat like that - you see a lot of teams take a first half like that give up - look at the cowboys
true elbow
they didnt lose tho
The Lions have absolute shit games against good teams every year
They did the same shit against the Ravens last year
brazen anvil
mahomes and goff both have 9 ints on the season now
true elbow
It was bound to happen and Goff took himself out of the MVP race with one game
true elbow
mahomes and goff both have 9 ints on the season now
Yeah but 5 interceptions in one game?
brazen anvil
i dont really care if he wins mvp man
true elbow
Lamar is probably gonna win it again
But the Steelers are the last line of defense to kick him out of MVP
brazen anvil
barry sanders won mvp in my lifetime and we didnt win a super bowl - id much rather that
true elbow
i dont really care if he wins mvp man
After Goff became a Lion, his name went from Jared Goof to Jared Goof
brazen anvil
are you alright man?
muted valley
also their oline got worn down - and they have a young qb who is down his best r...
Well texans oline wasn't good all game
I was happy to see metchie go off
brazen anvil
Well texans oline wasn't good all game
stroud looked way more comfortable the first half though
muted valley
are you a texans fan i take it?
No
brazen anvil
the texans will still win the division probably
brazen anvil
that whole division lost yesterday
muted valley
the texans will still win the division probably
Probably only need 9 wins
Worst division on football 🔥
brazen anvil
did you like those red uniforms?
i thought it was a little bright, did you hear mike tereco said "these terrible uniforms" cos he couldnt read them lol
brazen anvil
the helmet was cool but i think if they paird it with a blue or black jersey it would look more sleek
muted valley
the helmet was cool but i think if they paird it with a blue or black jersey it ...
Like last season?
We only did it last season because we didn't have another helmet
brazen anvil
yeah those look cool, with that alternate helmet
everyone seems to like the lions black jersey this year with that helmet - its a bit odd for me, i never was a fan of the black cos it reminded me too much of the panthers
muted valley
yeah those look cool, with that alternate helmet
Well idk how the red helmet would work with our current jerseys
Its fine as a 2 time thing a season
brazen anvil
i mean if they kept the horn shoulder pads
but just used navy or black - i just feel that was too much red - red is a hard colour for the human eye to see especially on tv
i mean its fatiguing to look at after a time
muted valley
but just used navy or black - i just feel that was too much red - red is a hard ...
I think on christmas it'll be red red white
But that's why it's an alternate
true elbow
are you a texans fan i take it?
I would never be a Texans fan
Im a cheesehead
its in the role
true elbow
well we play jacksonville indianapolis and chicago next
The lions are gonna lose
brazen anvil
only have 3 more road games , @ indy , @ chicago and @ san fran
brazen anvil
The lions are gonna lose
how much you want to bet?
true elbow
how much you want to bet?
I know yall losing to Chicago
The lions always give away the ball
But im not losing money on weak teams that aren't us
so Im not gonna bet on it
brazen anvil
not that confident then
olive knot
you can bet xp 
true elbow
not that confident then
Well you are asking a Packers fan to be confident in the bears
olive knot
lions are like a top 2 team in the league, if youre that confident the bears will beat them then go ahead and bet some xp
true elbow
lions are like a top 2 team in the league, if youre that confident the bears wil...
Lions been selling to the Bears no matter what year it is
they sold so hard last year too
brazen anvil
dan campbell is 5-2 against green bay in his career 1 loss in detroit 1 loss in green bay
olive knot
divisional games are always tough to predict
but the bears are in complete free fall rn
brazen anvil
its true but yeah the bears dont look like they got it
they got 3 points against the patriots?
true elbow
dan campbell is 5-2 against green bay in his career 1 loss in detroit 1 loss in ...
Uhhh yeah whatever
olive knot
i dont really see a future in which the lions dont end up with the 1 seed but they have a looong way to go to beat the nfc north playoff curse
blowing a 24-0 lead in the nfc championship was just the tip of the iceberg
muted valley
blowing a 24-0 lead in the nfc championship was just the tip of the iceberg
24-0 lead
Stop
true elbow
The lions are gonna have probably a year left of being good
muted valley
?ban @olive knot
true elbow
they about to go back to selling the franchise
olive knot
?mute @muted valley 1 year
quiet valeBOT
chewy_2402 was muted. | year
surreal hare
Lmao
true elbow
damn
muted valley
Ok
surreal hare
Ahahahs
muted valley
brazen anvil
i gotta go to class guys 😂
true elbow
i gotta go to class guys 😂
I am sure the teacher knows the Packers are gonna win in Detroit 
brazen anvil
she doesnt understand american football lol
nobody watches nfl here really. the mlb and nba are really popular though
mint edge
Tua just dove head first trying to make a tackle after an int
Man wants to die on the field
alpine grove
mint edge
Another turnover bowl
surreal hare
Tua makes me sad
true elbow
Tua is smart
muted valley
https://fxtwitter.com/JayCuda/status/1856198115084193820
How has he played in over double the games nico has and has worse stats
alpine grove
How has he played in over double the games nico has and has worse stats
QB
ez
Tyreek him, Nico is also him but don’t get it twisted, he still got it 🫡
muted valley
Tyreek him, Nico is also him but don’t get it twisted, he still got it 🫡
Still
halcyon torrent
Oh and
lmao wait till you join the chicago bears discord i was talking to someone about how lame dj moore was in the morning
brazen anvil
Uhhh yeah whatever
Lions vs Packers results in the Dan Campbell era
zealous osprey
Should have been fired week 3
woeful topaz
waldron this week, flus next if we beat the shit out of the bears
zealous osprey
If flus beats the packers he's staying another year
woeful topaz
If flus beats the packers he's staying another year
welcome back, luke getsy!
zealous osprey
welcome back, luke getsy!
Dude got fired twice before flus 😭
true elbow
Lions vs Packers results in the Dan Campbell era
Not reading it, Lions let their divisional rivals come back for wins all the time with Dan Campbell its irrelevant
smoky bough
If flus beats the packers he's staying another year
Do you want us to beat your team or lose?
true elbow
Had a bad dream the Packers won it all
went to the superbowl
And then they messed everything up
true elbow
I don't see how any team gets past the lions rn
LMAOOOO
You must know the Lions that well
History repeats itself in the NFC North
muted valley
I don't see how any team gets past the lions rn
We literally saw it Sunday night
Like the first half
Texans are a known trash 2nd half team
If they wernt they would have won
true elbow
Lions are gonna lose and its gonna be on Bleacher Report and half of yall will be surprised
I'll be chilling eating my cheese curds
obsidian stone
true elbow
Tyson Bagent?
Never heard of him
They should of just kept Justin Fields, now they out here looking stupid
zealous osprey
Tyson Bagent?
Bears legend
true elbow
Bears legend
Loser
zealous osprey
If they wernt they would have won
But they didn't
true elbow
So Xavier McKinney gonna have about 3 interceptions?
zealous osprey
So Xavier McKinney gonna have about 3 interceptions?
Who?
true elbow
So bears fans don't pay attention to interception leaders?
muted valley
But they didn't
Well I'm just saying
mint edge
Jerry Jones makes me sad
muted valley
Texans clearly exposed how to beat the lions
woeful topaz
Texans clearly exposed how to beat the lions
make goff throw 5 picks?
frail harness
Make Goff throw something past 5 yards lol
true elbow
Jared Goff does this kind of stuff every year
I knew it was coming sometime down the line
He has the same amount of interceptions as Mahomes now
frail harness
Way easier said than done but you have to make Goff play QB instead of game manage
true elbow
Way easier said than done but you have to make Goff play QB instead of game mana...
The lions only came back because they realized they had a run game
I promise you if Goff had to throw every play he probably would have 10 interceptions
muted valley
The lions only came back because they realized they had a run game
yea
if only we had WAJ
acoustic pilot
Lamar is probably gonna win it again
Yes this generation's Peyton Manning will once again win MVP and lose in the divisional round
While this generation's Tom Brady will play like booboo in the regular season then enter God mode in the playoffs
I hate it here
true elbow
Yes this generation's Peyton Manning will once again win MVP and lose in the div...
Hes not Peyton Manning
Hes more of a Michael Vick Cam Newton combined
true elbow
While this generation's Tom Brady will play like booboo in the regular season th...
Mahomes is this Generation's Mahomes
Mahomes is 1 of 1, not even Tom could do what Mahomes has done
woeful topaz
Mahomes ain’t no Brady
(he's better)
frail harness
(he's better)
(Until he wins 7 super bowls, I won’t hear that argument)
woeful topaz
(Until he wins 7 super bowls, I won’t hear that argument)
or he 3peats which brady never could 🙂
true elbow
(Until he wins 7 super bowls, I won’t hear that argument)
Bill Russell never gets treated the way Brady does
:(((
frail harness
Stats will obviously favor Mahomes, but this current league HEAVILY favors the QB
frail harness
Bill Russell never gets treated the way Brady does
Plumbers era
Much smaller league
true elbow
I think if Mahomes wins another MVP I'll say goodbye to the Goat debate forever
frail harness
Fuck no lol
true elbow
Yes
frail harness
or he 3peats which brady never could 🙂
If he 3 peats and gets to 5 or 6 super bowls, I’ll consider it
woeful topaz
Plumbers era
every generation is a plumbers era
true elbow
I don't think the superbowl number is what makes Patrick better than Brady
woeful topaz
we're 10 years from "mj played against plumbers"
true elbow
thats the point
its the fact Mahomes is expected and has delivered and have done way more
frail harness
Well Bill Russell played in a league where there was 8-14 teams
woeful topaz
more condensed talent then
frail harness
Doesn’t minimize the success but I feel it definitely warrants a few asterisks
true elbow
Well Bill Russell played in a league where there was 8-14 teams
And he had to play against a bunch of hall of famer centers
And he had to play tougher teams more often due to the scarcity of teams
frail harness
Guys guys please don’t try to compare a league with 8-14 teams where basketball was not nearly as globally recognized as it is now compared to a league with as much parity as the NFL
Mahomes is definitely on a good pace to rival TB but he’s absolutely not there yet
true elbow
Guys guys please don’t try to compare a league with 8-14 teams where basketball ...
More teams = More Players = SAME AMOUNT OF GAMES
Its tough
frail harness
More teams = More Players = SAME AMOUNT OF GAMES
Much more competition
true elbow
Lets not act like Russell was playing against nobody
true elbow
Much more competition
It just makes it harder on coaching
frail harness
Bruh lol
true elbow
Having less teams means you play more times against harder opponents
its still 82 games
frail harness
The game was not globally recognized as much it is now
true elbow
I mean true but what point does that make?
frail harness
Just look at Giannis, Jokic, Embiid for example
woeful topaz
Much more competition
imagine the current nba with 10 teams
you'd have the olympic usa team as an actual nba team
frail harness
imagine the current nba with 10 teams
you'd have the olympic usa team as an actu...
I just don’t think it’s apples to apples like that tho lol
true elbow
Just look at Giannis, Jokic, Embiid for example
You can't make an argument against Bill Russell for that
Bill Russell wasn't playing plumbers
frail harness
There wasn’t enough room in the league to truly encompass all of the potential talent at the time
true elbow
most people got Wilt Chamberlain in their top 10
woeful topaz
hear me out though: dan marino in today's league is getting 7000 yards
true elbow
hear me out though: dan marino in today's league is getting 7000 yards
I wouldn't disagree
Dan Marino is a beast
frail harness
You can't make an argument against Bill Russell for that
Not trying to minimize the great career but you can’t tell me it’s more impressive than playing against 29 other teams
true elbow
Not trying to minimize the great career but you can’t tell me it’s more impressi...
and half of those teams are waiting for draft picks
frail harness
hear me out though: dan marino in today's league is getting 7000 yards
Oh for sure. But in the same sense Brady’s numbers would for sure rival Mahomes’ then
frail harness
and half of those teams are waiting for draft picks
Look at what the heat did as an 8 seed a couple years ago, that simply wasn’t possible in Russell’s league
More competition now
true elbow
Both Football and Basketball became more offensive friendly as years went on
true elbow
Look at what the heat did as an 8 seed a couple years ago, that simply wasn’t po...
Only 2 teams did that in the history of basketball
frail harness
All in all, my opinion is that it’s foolish to say Mahomes is better than Brady at this current moment
frail harness
Based on what lol
true elbow
Lets evaluate
woeful topaz
ability to throw the football
frail harness
Numbers? Look at what you just said how the game now favors offense
true elbow
Lets take the Patroits
and the Chiefs
prior to getting QB
The Patriots team was already made to compete to go to the superbowl
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Dude Tom was on the patriots for 20 years, throw that out the window
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the Chiefs was not
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…But he sustained it for 20 years
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Drew Bledsoe getting hurt opened up 4th string qb Tom Brady to play football
Tom Brady played in his first superbowl against a heavily offensive team in the Rams
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And went to a whole new team and won again 🤣
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And went to a whole new team and won again 🤣
wait
lets get to this part later
The rams superbowl wasn't asking for Tom to do too much
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Are you acting like Mahomes wasn’t carried by his defense last year
And a lot this year
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Tom Brady did his part but he had hall of famer kicker already
and a top 3 defense in the league
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Hes more of a Michael Vick Cam Newton combined
No
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Im never gonna say he was carried and Im not saying it was easy
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And Cam Newton
Depends on how you look at it
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ignore the actual stats
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And I always find those comparisons weird because the only similarity is
Run
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but in terms of structure
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more pro bowls more all pros two mvps another sbmvp
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they play fundamentally similar
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ignore the actual stats
Dang
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he is recognized as being a bigger part of the team's success than brady was his first 3
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Again, much much more QB generous league now than Tom had for 80% of his career
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We aren't trying to call Brady trash we are just acknowledging he had a lot of HELP and his game is more limited compared to Mahomes
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But he’s the goat until Mahomes can replicate his success lol
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But he’s the goat until Mahomes can replicate his success lol
So for your expectations if he wins 7 rings you will call him the goat?
I think that is ridiculous
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So for your expectations if he wins 7 rings you will call him the goat?
I would consider it even if he won 5
But right now I just don’t think it’s realistic at all
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The success is one thing, but its also the talent
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To call him the goat at this current moment p
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The success is one thing, but its also the talent
Okay so Aaron Rodgers is the goat then
Because I’ve never seen anyone more talented than him
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Brady also let Aaron Rodgers and Manning win more MVPS than him when he was playing
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Okay so Aaron Rodgers is the goat then
goat isn't best
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GOATS don't do that :((
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5 years ago i'd call brady the undisputed goat and rodgers the most talented
now mahomes is in contention for both (admittedly this year has not been great for him so we'll stick a pin in most talented)
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I don't think Rodgers is the goat, although he is MY goat... which is a conversation for another day
Rodgers would need to win at least 2 superbowls
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I’m just saying I think it’s foolish right now to say Mahomes is better than Brady. Wayyyy too early. Mahomes could fall off a cliff in 3 years for all we know lol (he won’t), but it’s just way too early for him to have the goat argument
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In my opinion
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I’m just saying I think it’s foolish right now to say Mahomes is better than Bra...
he could also 6peat by the time he falls off in 3 years
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Mahomes could really retire and play baseball
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i dont EXPECT that
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hes that althletic
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he could also 6peat by the time he falls off in 3 years
Yeah and I could win a million dollars tomorrow
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Mahomes is not some great runner lmao
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Yeah and I could win a million dollars tomorrow
mahomes 6peating is way more likely than that tbh
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Mahomes is not some great runner lmao
He doesn't have to be great
at running it
He just needs that to be able to be versatile
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he's good enough that defenses have to worry about it
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mahomes 6peating is way more likely than that tbh
Well yeah but I would tear that NFL apart before anyone 6 peats
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he's not a lamar or an allen but he's not a brady or a manning style statue either
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So doesn’t that make Brady’s success a bit more impressive then?
Amazing success with limited physical traits?
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Amazing success with limited physical traits?
No
Because the fastest qb usually never wins it all
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I’m not saying Mahomes won’t be the goat to be clear, I’m just saying right now it’s foolish to say he is
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it's not foolish to say he's in contention
it is foolish to say it's not a competition and he already is
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I said he’s on pace to make it realistic but right now it’s not realistic
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Mahomes also has the ability to make unreal throws
the one he made in the superbowl loss
Im sure you know that one
and the behind the back shit
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Also what was with the graphic showing Tom had 0 mvps
his first mvp was 2007, this was their first 96 games
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Oh gotcha
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to compare the start of their careers as a "well this is his pace"
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Yeah I’m not denying Mahomes’ pace at all
I’m just saying if he died tomorrow (NOT encouraging this lmao), Brady is the goat
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which is mostly why i sent it - their accolades alone the first 6? seasons starting is more in line with my line of thinking that he'll be considered the goat soon
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which is mostly why i sent it - their accolades alone the first 6? seasons start...
I totally get what you mean and agree to a point, but it’s hard to compare without seeing Brady primarily play in an offensive driven league
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When people said Mahomes was top 10 in 2020 after winning the superbowl, I didn't believe it
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bucs brady was more or less "this era" - while i acknowledge he was 200 years old his skillset also suffered less in age because of his limited physical traits
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When people told me Mahomes had a shot at winning against the 49ers in 2020 I denied it
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I’m not denying Mahomes’ talent/success at all. I’m just saying with how long Brady could sustain it, we need more out of Mahomes before we call him the goat
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Brady is a LeBron for longevity and Bill Russell for chips
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LeBron is more impressive than Brady imo for longevity. He still looks like a top 10 player at the current moment lol
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Remember Brady's final year with the Buccaneers
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Brady was a shell of himself at that point
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I didn't know Brady without Gronk meant everything
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Remember Brady's final year with the Buccaneers
still had 4700 yards 
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still had 4700 yards <:PatLUL:1000147431721287811>
4700?
Are you sure that isn't a typo
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It’s real lol
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Well he was still awesome before Gronk lol
Yeah because he had Randy Moss and plenty of more before Gronk
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Yeah but he was still awesome lol
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Are you sure that isn't a typo
2021 brady? 4700 yards 25 tds 9 ints
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2021 brady was 5300/43/12 <:LMAO:852860901287788544>
His best year ever if 2007 didn’t exist lol
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But he was ass
his 2022 bucs and 2019 pats statlines are nearly identical, except for him having 120 more passing attempts in 2022
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Also
I was talking about career trajectory
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his 2022 bucs and 2019 pats statlines are nearly identical, except for him havin...
So you are telling me he threw for all those yards as a 49 year old man
and got washed by the cowboys
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Mahomes career trajectory is similar to Brady
Just as Lamar's is similar to Peyton
Thus far
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Mahomes career trajectory is similar to Brady
Just as Lamar's is similar to Pey...
Joe Burrow
Joe Burrow is Peyton Manning
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Joe Burrow
burrow is andrew luck
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burrow is andrew luck
Great comparison so far lol
Undeniable talent but injuries are concerning
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But its Joe Burrow
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Burrow has had more success tho
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last year - burrow in 59 games was sacked 177 times
luck was sacked 126 times in 63 games
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the 2020 QB draft class
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i genuinely dont think the bengals make the bowl again with burrow
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Not with that Swiss cheese D
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ownership not good, they're gonna let tee walk, burrow isnt protected
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i genuinely dont think the bengals make the bowl again with burrow
Jake Browning?
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that defense too
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I knew the Bengals would fall off
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Well I think the nice thing about the NFL is that windows can reopen
Just soooo much parity in the NFL
but I agree bengals need a little change to reach those heights again
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Well I think the nice thing about the NFL is that windows can reopen
at this point i expect the bengals to let chase walk solely because the ownership/FO seems to be stupid with players
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If they let Chase walk then they don’t deserve anything ever
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Maybe Joe Burrow can go to Miami with Jamarr Chase
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They have to pay him
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and they can go make a superteam
and win 2 rings
then go back to Cincinnati and say "CINCI THIS IS FOR YOU"
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They have to pay him
i thought they had to pay tee lol
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My thinking is tho that they’re gonna let Tee walk in order to pay Jamarr
Tough to pay 2 receivers big time money even if you ignore Burrow’s contract
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Well maybe Daniel Jones
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Daniel Jones isn't even a bad QB
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But yes hahah
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He’s not as bad as everyone makes him out to be but why tie all the money into a QB who you’re not going to contend with lol
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Daniel Jones isn't even a bad QB
all previous takes from discord user baku have been retroactively ignored
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*all previous takes from discord user baku have been retroactively ignored*
LMAOOOO
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Well maybe Daniel Jones
his contract is the basis for the "well, you MIGHT be the guy" contracts atp
so hes done something long lasting
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They gave him the money based on one season
one fluke win against a fraudulent team
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his contract is the basis for the "well, you MIGHT be the guy" contracts atp
I agree, he didn’t get top of the market but still the $ amount attached to HIM is ridiculous
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Well Jordan Love has shown us more than DJ ever has lol
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if we didnt pay him we'd risk losing him or having to pay him even more
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But if you think you have the guy, why wait
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the "slow start bad first half of the season" of love would have been better than anything jones had put out
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the "slow start bad first half of the season" of love would have been better tha...
I mean yeah
And it wasn't even all Jordan Love's fault as a QB
he kept the games close
and we would have some losses here and there
and he went god mode late in the season
when everyone was healthy
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on love specifically i get it because he had one season starting sure but you also had the years of development so you KNOW what you were watching on the field lined up with your evaluation from practicing
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He starts this weekend
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Baku how did you earn the 💩💩
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Wdym?
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💩 color
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Who 👀 hahaha
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I was mad at coach Bud and the whole team
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Lmaooo
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we have our moments I guess but nah not him
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So I think I got the poop role because I was ranting a lot
didn't wanna lose in the first round and all
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real
surreal hare
Early contender for MIP
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thats so valid baku
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It’s okay Baku we all crash out sometimes
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I remember I was just being honest about like Pat Connaughton and Jrue and Grayson Allen
I remember talking about how if Giannis came back it wouldn't fix our turnover issue
stuff like that
But back to football talk
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No
Joe Burrow doesn't have the resume to be anyone's Peyton Manning. Lol
He's Phillip Rivers
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That man could have prime Megatron and Jerry Rice and still only throw 102 yards in a game
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LMAO I doubt that
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I'm glad Saquon was freed
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They could of franchise tagged him
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But if you wanna go in on Jones, then the Packers can trade Love for him
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But if you wanna go in on Jones, then the Packers can trade Love for him
Don’t give Baku ideas please
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But if you wanna go in on Jones, then the Packers can trade Love for him
Hmmmm
Hmmmm
Im thinking
trade Love???
NO
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Why not
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Im too bias anyways, Love better stay in green and gold for the next 12 years or more
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Daniel Jones is a system QB and just needs help
Green Bay can be the system
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Daniel Jones is a system QB and just needs help
Green Bay can be the system
Yeah but Daniel Jones can't throw those tight window Packers routes
and he doesn't jump off one leg when he throws it
no thanks
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You won't need Love with Danny Dimes at the helm!
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I mean he is pretty good
but we are sticking with what we got
if Daniel Jones wins 10 superbowls so be it
I'll die by my choice
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I mean he is pretty good
No he's not
There's not a single team in the NFL except the Giants that would take him as a starting QB. Lmao
Not even the Raiders or Saints
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I think DJ has a higher chance of being struck by lightning 10 times in a row than winning a single SB
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He was trained by Eli right?
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I think DJ has a higher chance of being struck by lightning 10 times in a row th...
I mean he could win as a backup
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Morning guys, happy Wednesday
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I'm glad Saquon was freed
i can't believe this was saquons first win against dallas
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I think DJ has a higher chance of being struck by lightning 10 times in a row th...
Could br as a backup qb…
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Not even the Raiders or Saints
the raiders would rather have him right now i think but definitely not long term
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Morning guys, happy Wednesday
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I thought you were from the Midwest
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Not reading it, Lions let their divisional rivals come back for wins all the tim...
so you think were splitting with the rest of the nfc north this year?
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so you think were splitting with the rest of the nfc north this year?
The Lions might sweep the Vikings
thats about it
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I thought you were from the Midwest
i am but i live in Taiwan
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i am but i live in Taiwan
oh
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The Lions might sweep the Vikings
not the bears?
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https://x.com/UnSportsESPN/status/1856333813636280515?
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not the bears?
Nope
Lions are gonna give the ball to the Bears and let them win
like they always do
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the raiders would rather have him right now i think but definitely not long term
They're trying to get Shedeur so they probably wouldn't take him now either
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you think we beat the bills?
Lmao NO
The Lions are gonna start choking and Im calling it
Listen if you want advice don't ask a Packers fan
Im gonna hate
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the packers bills and 49ers and vikings are the last four games onnthe schedule
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the packers bills and 49ers and vikings are the last four games onnthe schedule
2-2
Y'all got the 49ers
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oh and another chicago game
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so split with chicaog angreen bay
and lose to bigfalo
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that would be a 13-4 record then not too bad
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Yeah
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that would be a 13-4 record then not too bad
Well that is based on your last 5 games tho right? Still got Jags Colts
Which should be easy
Now Packers and Vikings were going back and forth with the Jaguars
Bears kicked their ass
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who is the qb for the jaguars now
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Mac jones lol
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tevor laurance will not play?
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I don’t think so, there was (is?) a chance he’s out the rest of the year
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still waiting to see on his shoulder but if i'm the jags i'm taking advantage and shutting him down
the season is a complete loss already, keep trevor healthy and improve your draft position
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well i watched every game this season and theres no rational reason for me to beliebe the lions wouldnt beat the jagulars regardless of their qb
remember when they were good and made it to the afc championship against brady
actually they were in the plqyoffs a few years ago and lost to the chiefs in the divisional
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remember when they were good and made it to the afc championship against brady
Sacksonville
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actually they were in the plqyoffs a few years ago and lost to the chiefs in the...
Yea
They were 4-8
Won 5 straight and won afc south
Then had that 27 point comeback vs chargers
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Debating Baku in buckscord 💔
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Then had that 27 point comeback vs chargers
thats right
i remember iw as in cleveland for a bucks cavs game during that chiefs jags game and mahomes got hurt
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But it has been all down hill since 8-3 last season
Went 1-5 to finish the season and lost the afc south to the texans
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Debating Baku in buckscord 💔
most of the fans in the pistons discord are lions fans so its nice to hear a different perspective - though there are still some SOL fans even now
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Went 1-5 to finish the season and lost the afc south to the texans
afc south is a weird one
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afc south is a weird one
Trash one*
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i always have the hardest time remembering the teams lol - i dont pay attention to the afc as much though
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Only reason our playoff chances are 94% rn
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When everyone over the off season had the afc south as a top division in football
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like if you say name every team in every division off your head - the afc south i usually will forget the titans and jags or something
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i always have the hardest time remembering the teams lol - i dont pay attention ...
Its just the colts tbh
Well we are also the most irrelevant division
Colts are 2-2 in the super bowl, titans are 0-1, jags have never made it, and texans have never made an AFCCG
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When everyone over the off season had the afc south as a top division in footbal...
No one had them as best
It was still afc north
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the afc south has 1 super bowl win among the teams, 2 if you count when the colts played in the afc east
super bowl wins by division
NFC East 13
NFC West 8
NFC North 5
NFC South 3
AFC West 10
AFC East 9 (10)
AFC North 8
AFC South 1 (2)
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super bowl wins by division
NFC East 13
NFC West 8
NFC North 5
NFC South 3
AF...
Difference between nfc and afc east is super bowls 25-28 lol
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texans are the youngest team in the nfl tho
theyve made they playoffs 31% of their history 8 out of 22 seasons
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Only their 2nd season w/o tom brady
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cardinals the oldest team in the nfl they have 11 post season appearances in 104 years of play lol
the worst by far
only team that comes close is the expansion browns
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Wait did he not the other night
did not
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Ah didn’t realize that
Chewy was lying to me then I trusted him when he said Nico was playing
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my friend said he would play
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Only their 2nd season w/o tom brady
oh you meant without him playing in the league, i was confused as i thought you meant he played for the texans at first 😂
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Chewy was lying to me then I trusted him when he said Nico was playing
He was good to go
Like he could have played but the team decided to sit him
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oh you meant without him playing in the league, i was confused as i thought you ...
Yea
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but he was in the nfc the last three years of his career though
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so who you guys find the hardest to listen to, like you wanna mute the tv when they talk - cris collinsworth, tony romo, or tom brady?
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romo, easily
"now here's a guy" is kinda annoying but whatever
brady i assume will get better
tony "nyeeeahhh jim i dont know" romo is borderline unlistenable
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i do get sick of collinsworth
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Hopefully fairbairn hits 1 more 50+ yarder during the season
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yeah thankfully lions habent had a romo game yet
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so who you guys find the hardest to listen to, like you wanna mute the tv when t...
I haven't listened to brady in a while tbh
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lions had two - cowboys and packers
I was at the packers game
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brady is alright just seems odd in his delivery - not natural
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I was at the packers game
nice man i saw its2easys vlog about it man it was pouring like it pours here in taiwan lol
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nice man i saw its2easys vlog about it man it was pouring like it pours here in ...
I was sitting up in the highest section so I was covered from the rain
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he was in the front row on the endzone - they were getting drenched it looked like
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I was sitting up in the highest section so I was covered from the rain
how was the atmosphere?
i mean other than the weather lol
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I was at the packers game
Brady calling the packers this weekend
I think he is next week too against the 9ers lol
Pretty good run in the national spotlight coming
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I think he is next week too against the 9ers lol
Well I'm going to the game
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how was the atmosphere?
I'm not sure
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Well I'm going to the game
Well Texans play Monday so you have no excuse to miss him on the call Sunday Mr chewy
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Well Texans play Monday so you have no excuse to miss him on the call Sunday Mr ...
I know
I'm watching it
Also kind of have to since my family is packers fans
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And Texans Defense better not lay an egg
Because I’m relying on them this week lol
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Because I’m relying on them this week lol
They shouldn't
Look at what they did vs the lions, now you take dallas who has worse evrything
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That’s exactly how I’m looking at it
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They should get 3+ TOs
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Has Stingley been as advertised coming out of college?
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Probably not as good
But he still been good
He was a top 10 CB last season
Hasn't been as good this season
I still like the core we got for our secondary
Lassiter is 21, bullock is 21, stingley is 23, and pitre is 25
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3rd
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Yeah crazy he’s only 23
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Brady 2 games in a row? time to saw my ears off
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Brady 2 games in a row? time to saw my ears off
Imagine it was Vilma instead
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yeah ok I’ll take Brady then
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I guess I can’t hate too much cause it’s only his first year, Lisa was also super rough when she first started
his voice just grates on my nerves tho
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maybe? I don’t really track other teams draft classes that closely
verse and Puka have been great picks at least
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https://fxtwitter.com/RapSheet/status/1856737566147408339
Jets have a chance now
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https://fxtwitter.com/RapSheet/status/1856737566147408339
They should of never benched the kid
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He was just a little eepy
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They should of never benched the kid
What playing the texans does to a qb
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What playing the texans does to a qb
The man was just tired
But he clearly is a franchise qb
Once the colts get a better defense they can win big
Anthony Richardson has an arm
Its like a rocket
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But he clearly is a franchise qb
Not rn
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Yeah he is
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Still has potential
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But did you see his arm
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I kinda figured the colts would bench him for 1-2 weeks to put him in timeout but idk if that was their plan all along or they just went back to him cause Flacco was also stinking it up
he’s like a top 3 qb in terms of talent and bottom 5 qb in terms of actual play this year
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The man was just tired
i want richardson to be good but this cannot be excused
the most important player on the team tagging out on a 3rd and goal because he was tired
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I kinda figured the colts would bench him for 1-2 weeks to put him in timeout bu...
Yeah Flakko did horrible
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the most important player on the team tagging out on a 3rd and goal because he w...
Well i think he learned his lesson
Because he was benched and treated like Flacco was gonna be starting for the rest of the year
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happy thursday
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Pretty good run in the national spotlight coming
four night games in a row wow