calamity-update-talk

[wise bolt]

that would be my dev item

[lapis oak]

kill him

[steel pike]

Tofu class

[rare tinsel]

blame every problem on cit

[steel pike]

It’s in a class of its own

[steel pike]

#worthit

[lapis oak]

@ CIT your mod is brocken

[wise bolt]

technically rogue

[steel pike]

Ah true

[hushed hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021557465776672799/1468526548415021138/SPOILER_Deusfastest.gif

[lapis oak]

I just love how when Hellborn got reworked it's still SS tier and Tainted Orderbringer is still the best Tainted option

[white aurora]

oh goodness it is speedy

[cunning sequoia]

the zoomer

[rare tinsel]

he’s so fast

he got into the coffee

[wise bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/505091693054525450/1475825738447065098/IMG_3446.gif

hes exploses

[steel pike]

how dogs act when you use outside in a sentence

[steel pike]

NO…

[white aurora]

tragic...

[hidden belfry]

How many weapons ignore I-Frame?

[hearty horizon]

Okay Jesus Christ the Void layer in the Abyss is just fucking terrifying now, hearing an Eidolon Worm and not being able to see where it is unless you move your cursor on it, God I love this place

[lapis oak]

the lighting system makes it incredibly atmospheric it's awesome

[hearty horizon]

It really is

[high scaffold]

And it will get even better

[hearty horizon]

I already loved the Abyss before

Now it's just

It's great

[dusty tinsel]

How such a large creature lives in such a small biome is always funny to me

But yes I know lore wise the biome is bigger

It's just world size constraints make it smaller

[hearty horizon]

Yeah, lore-wise it is not 2D lol

[hidden belfry]

The background is actually cracks to a bigger abyss

[lapis oak]

with that said also being able to do this is funny

[hearty horizon]

But yeah, before, you heard the worm scream and then you were on the lookout and probably saw it pretty quick

This time I almost bumped into it

That is TERRIFYING

If I hadn't moved my cursor towards it last second I would have been dead

[sinful dagger]

What is it supposed to say

[high scaffold]

I realy want to try and play with upcoming calamity sacks

[stone solstice]

one day..i will be able to open the calamity wiki and go to changelogs for "2.1.2"
i check damn near daily hoping to see a fix for summoner

[high scaffold]

Sand sack will be an insanely good game comfort item

[fierce hearth]

I found out that world hopping is what causes my minions to despawn

[rare tinsel]

i have no idea why they didn’t rush a fix yet

[fierce hearth]

If I stay on 1 world it doesn't do it

[dull heart]

Gotta make fighting PW possible somehow

[stone solstice]

literally. its the biggest issue rn and is completely stopping summoner from being enjoyable and playable

[rare tinsel]

tire

ture

[high scaffold]

Potion sack seems insanely good too

[stone solstice]

doesnt matter for me. minions despawn regardless

[lapis oak]

it's glorpshit fight not worth it

doing this for the love of the game instead

[dull heart]

We have been waiting on another critical bug fix

[rare tinsel]

ah

[lapis oak]

Crazy ass bug

[rare tinsel]

What’s the critical bug fix

[dull heart]

Bug that literally locked players out of being able to even click the singleplayer menu

[wise bolt]

i like to summon jared outside the abyss witg godmode on just to watch it flail about

[rare tinsel]

kekw

[lapis oak]

Crazy ass bug

[dull heart]

when having specific vanity and transformation items equipped

[stone solstice]

like genuinely just push out "update 2.1.2, the 'hey sorry we broke summoner like, 2 weeks ago. heres the patch' update" and the only note is "fixed summons despawning and the ability to right click them to despawn"

(yes i know this isnt how game dev works and im being patient. im just salty as hell, please dont come after me)

[wise bolt]

lmfao ?,???,???

[dull heart]

don't worry 2.1.2 is very close

[stone solstice]

like, february close??

[dull heart]

I'd be shocked if it didn't release in February

we're like so close

[stone solstice]

okay thank you. this genuinely eases my mind a LOT

[lapis oak]

omg 2.1.2 in 10 minutes

start the countdown

[wary crest]

The real 2.1.2 is the friends we made along the way

[fierce hearth]

2.1.2 yesterday

[dull heart]

We've been working to get 2.1.2 done with all the critical bugfixes and we finally figured out the singleplayer menu crash yesterday

[fierce hearth]

We all just forgot

[rare tinsel]

will 2.1.2 buff spider staff

[stone solstice]

appreciate the comms A LOT

[lapis oak]

your hands didn't forget

[dull heart]

It was caused by using transformation items with the Capricorn helmet or whatever

[rare tinsel]

lmao

[dull heart]

the vanity snake looking one

[fierce hearth]

Kiri please

[dull heart]

from vanilla

[rare tinsel]

naga legs?

[dull heart]

no

[rare tinsel]

lame

[stone solstice]

me and a friend literally just started a summoner run the day after 2.1.1 and when we couldnt use most of the modded summons, it actually broke all interest and we decided to move to another playthrough while waiting-

[dull heart]

it's one of the vanity contest winners

[high scaffold]

Can we have aerialite renamed to aerolite when it all be reworked?

[dull heart]

Actually Wait maybe

Idr the set

[rare tinsel]

yeah that’s capricorn

capticorn won a contest

[dull heart]

Yeah then it's that

why did I remember the name lol

[rare tinsel]

anyways pls buff spider staff in 2.1.2 it doesn’t work on inf cryogen

[dull heart]

terrible news

[rare tinsel]

NOOO

spider staff z tier confirmed

[lapis oak]

you use something other than true melee that's crazy

fake fan all along

[rare tinsel]

no i never actually used it

[dull heart]

how is spider staff not working on inf cryo

[hearty horizon]

Debating whether to go for Anahita and Leviathan or Astrum Aureus first

[rare tinsel]

i’m just guessing that it doesn’t work on onf cryogen and thus asserting that it must be buffed or i riot and go mass banning people

[high scaffold]

Free shadow mantle pass

[lapis oak]

no you're fake now I've decided your fate

[dull heart]

What on earth does inf cryo do

Spider Staff is so crazy

[rare tinsel]

sits out of range of spider staff

[dull heart]

walls

[rare tinsel]

what are those

[wary crest]

Walls are a scam made by big wood to sell more spiders

[hearty horizon]

Aureus would be quite helpful because of the buff potions he drops meaning I no longer would have to worry about Deathweed's annoying ass bloom requirements, but the Leviathan duo would let me get Lumenyl and Depth Cells

[high scaffold]

The upcoming winged boots resprites just look so awesome

[rare tinsel]

my luiafk arena builder doesn’t do them

[stone solstice]

wait i do have another question for the dev in chat
any whips being added soon?! we need more whips!!

[dull heart]

L

[rare tinsel]

no whip

[high scaffold]

Ew, luiafk

[rare tinsel]

i have to use luiafk how else does mage become usable

[hearty horizon]

Mage is usable anyway lol

[high scaffold]

By playing the game?

[hoary edge]

chaos stone

[rare tinsel]

chaos stone doesnt do anything

[stone solstice]

we neeeeed more whips

[high scaffold]

That one weapon that restores mana

[wary crest]

Nah, 1.3 summoner gameplay is what the people want

[rare tinsel]

i cant use two weapons at once

[steel pike]

watch me whip

[high scaffold]

And its upgrade

[steel pike]

watch me nae nae

[stone solstice]

whips are what make summoner fun tbh

[hearty horizon]

Huh? What weapon? Only one I can think of that does that is the Wulfrum Prosthesis and that doesn't have an upgrade

[wary crest]

I personally agree but I highly doubt we’re gonna get jackshit

[rare tinsel]

lunic eye and eye of magnus

Each hit restores 25 mana

[high scaffold]

Are number keys and mouse wheel not available to you?

[rare tinsel]

i play on trackpad

[fierce hearth]

I want more summon weapons that compete with whips and accept other class benefits like how whips accept melee speed and size buffs

[high scaffold]

Not those

[stone solstice]

like yea, calamity whip expansion is good but it just isnt the best

[high scaffold]

Ion blaster and apoctosis array

[rare tinsel]

whar

[stone solstice]

hell, id even be okay with more summon weapons like the weird fishing rod thing

[high scaffold]

"Press [right click] to charge the blaster, restoring your mana until it reaches max"

[fierce hearth]

Fun weapons :)

[high scaffold]

Mana pots if they were good

[rare tinsel]

i dont use mana potions i dont wanna grind

[stone solstice]

i dont use mana potions cause mana sickness sucks ass

[high scaffold]

Grinding for mana pots? When you can literaly buy them?

[stone solstice]

also managing another keybind is annoying lmfao

[hoary edge]

I'd rather inflicting myself with mana burn than mana sickness

[rare tinsel]

yeah ut then i have to grind for money

[fathom girder]

not till the summoner rebalance, which at the earliest will release alongside the 1.4.5 port(which is a silly assumption)

[high scaffold]

Money is abundant in calamity

[hoary edge]

oh? 👀

[sterile sundial]

i wish there was more reasons to hybrid class than slapping in summoner and calling it a day

[stone solstice]

its a fair assumption tbh

[fathom girder]

ye

it's fair but there's a lot of unknown variables

[rare tinsel]

look for debuff builds

[stone solstice]

still sucks to wait at least 3-5 months

[fathom girder]

nothin's ever set in stone kinda deal

[high scaffold]

Wait, is astral bulwark realy getting reworked in the future?

[silent tiger]

how many months it will take to terraria 1.4.5 be in tmodload?

[stone solstice]

at this rate, we'll have to wait till 2036 to get yharhim

[stone solstice]

literally nobody knows

[fathom girder]

that was already determined

lul

[sterile sundial]

afaik debuff application is just switching to a weapon just to tag rather than actively using multiple though its been a while since i played calamity

[stone solstice]

but probably less than 9 months

[silent tiger]

i think to 1.4.4 took 7 - 8 months ; - ;

[stone solstice]

9 months according to the tmod team. but 145 should be faster

but again, literally nobody knows

esp not the clam devs

[hoary edge]

[rare tinsel]

Yeah
Unfortunately multiclassing in the way you’re expecting is kinda fundamentally flawed because if you use one weapon of one class you’re NOT using a weapon of another class

[silent tiger]

who comes first sukken sea update this year or tmodloader 1.4.5, i have my bet

[rare tinsel]

You can use some big brain high IQ strats to make rogue work with other classes

Especially with Gem Tech armor

[sterile sundial]

id be up for any mods that have in depth multiclassing tho

[stone solstice]

realistically 145 tmod. sunken sea will likely be after 145. but again nobody. knows.

[sterile sundial]

but thats not calamity related

:trol:

[high scaffold]

A random ah expected unexpected not SSO related somewhat big update

[rare tinsel]

doze is working on a mod that removed classes in their entirety

[silent tiger]

what?

[sterile sundial]

im guessing its balanced for vanilla

not that thats bad

[high scaffold]

SSO is not the next calamity update

[sterile sundial]

cuz thats exactly what im missing from vanilla's gameplay tbh

[dull heart]

Have you seen the Stratus set

[dull heart]

Well it's not really balanced period rn tbh but it'll be balanced on its own not explicitly on vanilla. You can try out the bets if you want though

would love feedback

[sterile sundial]

seems cool ill take a look

[high scaffold]

I realy do wonder what will the next update include

Likely some of the things that were shown before

[stone solstice]

hopefully whips lmfao

[dull heart]

2.1.2 will include hive pack glow up

[silent tiger]

aerielite whip is the only one corfirmed?

[fathom girder]

there's also a provi whip

they showed it off awhile ago

[high scaffold]

Gastric gar

[fathom girder]

rest assured whips will be available for all stages when they eventually release

it's just

[stone solstice]

that cannot be all thats planned..

[fathom girder]

not happening for a while

[high scaffold]

They did?

[stone solstice]

thats nothing 😭

[fathom girder]

yea they did show it off as a little teaser like months ago

[dull heart]

just because it's planned doesn't mean y'all get to know about it

[fathom girder]

99% of the going-ons in caldev are unknown to the playerbase yes

if brainstorm was anything to go off of lul

[stone solstice]

oh i figured lol. like i said, cannot be all thats planned

[silent tiger]

i wonder if after they add wips they gonna nerf summoner because its already the class that deals most damage even with just kaleidoscope

[fathom girder]

you guys are fantastic at keeping secrets

[rare tinsel]

it’s gonna be a ground up rebalance

[fathom girder]

I mentioned whips releasing alongside the summoner rebalance, yes

[dull heart]

no we're not we have tri

[high scaffold]

Is earospec chestplate gonna change based on the helmet equipped?

[stone solstice]

one thing id love to see is making "the pointer" a perma upgrade for accessibility, not an accessory

like, yea i can just use the aimbot mod. but the less mods, the better

[high scaffold]

Or will it be 2 different pieces of armor?

[dull heart]

you can do that or use a controller

[stone solstice]

i just dont wanna use a controller on calamity. that sounds like absolute hell

[high scaffold]

Imagine they add ability wheel

[vivid hemlock]

i think we know of like 8

[fierce hearth]

Calamity 3, evolution of combat

[steel pike]

Now imagine one with stick drift

[stone solstice]

💀

[rare tinsel]

controllers have an auto-lock on feature

[stone solstice]

yea im aware lol

i started playing terraria on ps3

[rare tinsel]

ah

[stone solstice]

i prefer the free nature of keyboard for terraria but i cant aim for shit

[dull heart]

When I started terraria on Xbox 360 there wasn't lock on

[stone solstice]

saccing an accessory slot for the pointer just doesnt feel good

[stone solstice]

i believe they added it with the ps4

1.3 i wanna say?

[dull heart]

yeah

1.3 added jt

[stone solstice]

i played from ps3 all the way to ps4 then finally on pc in 2020

[fierce hearth]

Also autolock doesn't account for projectile speed does it

[stone solstice]

not really

it doesnt account for movement at all

[fierce hearth]

Lmao

[stone solstice]

its just as if your mouse is on the enemy

[steel pike]

Omg I still have my ps3

Goat console

[stone solstice]

so its not even busted

aka, would LOVE it to be a perma upgrade

[dull heart]

It's busted actually

[stone solstice]

its flawed as hell

[dull heart]

On some items

[stone solstice]

some yea. but not the majority

its a good QoL feature. still not worth saccing 1 of 5, 6, or 7 slots

[stone solstice]

tbf, that weapon is insane even without lock on

[dull heart]

3:36 is fine but not insane

It's mostly the exos time that's insane

[amber egret]

its a high pierce weapon

Thanatos dies to anything that uses pierce

[dull heart]

But replacing a 20% dmg 15 AP accessory with the pointer and shaving 40 seconds

Is insane

[amber egret]

its 20% damage? i thought it was like 10% with 15 ap and it sucked ass

[rancid pagoda]

just aim better ig

[dull heart]

the pointer is just too valuable to be a permanent upgrade atm

[stone solstice]

guess ill just have to run more accessory slot mod to just have one solely for it

[dull heart]

yeah feel free to do that

[stone solstice]

sucks but understandable reasoning

[dull heart]

I should make a Pointer Slot mod

[rancid pagoda]

I use more slots regardless just so I can have discount card and stuff on all the time

[stone solstice]

yea!

[dull heart]

(pointer slot mod would be funny bc it's literally pointless over just getting a mod that enables console lock on directly)

[stone solstice]

same, but i usually only use it for a dash/boot slot. but QoL compendium kinda replaces that

[amber egret]

heh

Point less

heh

[stone solstice]

okay actually fair lmfao. aim bot mod does already exist

[amber egret]

like Pointer

[rancid pagoda]

yes, I see the irony

[amber egret]

oh yeah i am curious

[stone solstice]

the irony was admittedly lost on me at first

[amber egret]

does Lock On account for wind up tinmes

[stone solstice]

not that i know of

[amber egret]

like for Galv Glaive, does it try to hit where its going

or does it just shoot at it

[stone solstice]

i think its literally just "shoots at where enemy was when you click fire"

like if you shoot then the boss moves down a frame after, itll shoot where the boss was, not is

if that makes sense?

[dull heart]

No

I think the most insane combo with The Pointer is Calamity though

[fierce hearth]

Oh yeah Doze not asking you to do anything but last night I was watching Styropyro play with 400 car batteries and thinking about a melee weapon that plays with Auric Rejection

[amber egret]

oh my god.

Oh My God.

[pulsar cobalt]

auric slammer...

[fierce hearth]

Kiri mentioned a funny Basher upgrade

[dull heart]

auric slammer...

[amber egret]

whath appened to that one H+^ DoG Scythe

[stone solstice]

we need a melee weapon that does the comical "bonk" sound effect

[amber egret]

that just used one of its mandibles

[stone solstice]

inflatable hammer, sold by party girl post WoF

[pulsar cobalt]

wat

[dull heart]

what about it

[amber egret]

where is it i want to see it

[fierce hearth]

It's specifically the repeated explosions of sparks followed by a magnetic launch that I'm thinking about

[dull heart]

idk I posted it somewhere

[thorny fjord]

The baseball bat.......

[dull heart]

I want to add the auric bat like

actually would be peak

[thorny fjord]

It's so peak

[tropic jolt]

the luminous papaya

[fathom girder]

It can't be named auric bat

[pulsar cobalt]

also i just realised something

[fathom girder]

tbh

[pulsar cobalt]

why isnt void vortex auric themed

[fathom girder]

should be like. Volatile Rebounder or somethin'

[pulsar cobalt]

why is it still generic blue

[dull heart]

auric slammer

[steel pike]

what about the metal pipe falling sound

[fierce hearth]

If we really wanna play with the amount of stupid sparks it can generate, what if it worked like an extreme high speed hit in Lethal League if you fully charge the swing

[dull heart]

Murasama Overhaul gonna save you fr

[fierce hearth]

The obscene hitstop

[stone solstice]

hell yea

[stone solstice]

also a good choice

[lapis oak]

or just a little bit of dust spam

[stone solstice]

metal pipe sold by Scal lmfao

new boomerang

[dull heart]

I wanna add a weapon with legit hitstop

[amber egret]

whats hitstop again

[dull heart]

like flat out pauses the whole game for a few frames on impact

[amber egret]

Ooooooh.

[rare tinsel]

holy fuck

[dull heart]

and just doesn't do that in multiplayer

[stone solstice]

sawed on shotgun.

[amber egret]

Jackhammer......

[stone solstice]

(i recently got ultrakill)

i need a sawed on shotgun..

[rare tinsel]

Make it something like Hellkite or Gilded Proboscis where you make the meatiest hit of all time

[fierce hearth]

Characters involved in an attack stopping in time to stress the impact of the attack landing

[steel pike]

like the band 👀

[dull heart]

like Violence does but better

[amber egret]

also you could just freeze the player in place but give them cosmic amounts of i-frames

this will NOT break teh game

[steel pike]

Hear me out

What if it’s like

[dull heart]

no I've tried that before

[pulsar cobalt]

tooltip for auric slammer should be smthn like "when all you've got is a baseball bat" or whatever

[steel pike]

An automatic rifle/minigun

[fathom girder]

port switchaxe into calamity and my life is yours

[dull heart]

It feels so bad

[steel pike]

And every hit is just this

Unbelievably loud metal pipe

[dull heart]

Auric slammer could use hitstop tbh

[rare tinsel]

hell yeah

[stone solstice]

i think a throwable boomerang pipe is funnier

[steel pike]

TRUE

That’s not a bad idea

[rare tinsel]

auric landmine should stop and zoom in like super smash bros

[fierce hearth]

If you have the weapon equipped, it turns on autopause and opens your inventory on hit

[dull heart]

hit the ore and the whole game freezes

[stone solstice]

i need the sawed on shotgun from ultrakill, complete with parriable chainsaw...

[dull heart]

lool

Wait cook

I wonder how easy that'd be to do

[fathom girder]

GAME!!!

[steel pike]

Minigun with game stopper

[dull heart]

Give you time to contemplate your life choices before you get obliterated

[steel pike]

I’m sorry I really like the idea of an automatic weapon having something super inconvenient with every time it hits something

[fierce hearth]

You're effectively describing a lag gun

P90 with crystal bullets

[steel pike]

Yep

[dull heart]

hmm

[fathom girder]

when I think about hitstun with the auric bat

I think of ultrakill's parry hitstop

[steel pike]

Or what if with every hit of the minigun it destroys 10 random blocks somewhere in your world without a trace

[stone solstice]

i really need sawed on shotgun complete with parriable chainsaw

[pulsar cobalt]

real auric slammer sprite you should use its 10/10 quality on par with every other sprite in cal

[lapis oak]

banan

[steel pike]

auric french fry

[fathom girder]

the sprite should have blue engravings on it with electricity crackling through it

like when you hit acryllic with a jolt of electricity and it makes a lightning pattern

[high scaffold]

Some fandom wiki type shi

[fierce hearth]

Every time you shoot it does the vanilla consequences of breaking an evil altar

Placing more metals and generating a small patch of evil

[lapis oak]

That's just vile

The latter part

[jagged copper]

demonstration

[fierce hearth]

That was removed in 1.4.4 but I still think about it

It was so fucked up

Oh I also forgot! The gun spawns 1-2 wraiths every shot

[steel pike]

LOL

[steel pike]

poor calamitas

[steel pike]

This is such a good idea though

WAIT

What if

With every hit

It spawns a meteorite randomly

@fierce hearth

[fierce hearth]

That would cap out too quickly, vanilla has too many restrictions on meteorite spawns

[steel pike]

Noooo

[fathom girder]

pinworthy I think

Auric bat will be an eternal legend

[steel pike]

Put it into calamity and remove restrictions

Think about the capabilities of such a weapon

[lapis oak]

Meteorite spam in the Astral Infection so it can always happen and resulted in a flatten Infection biome

[fierce hearth]

I think random evil spread is more painful than glassing the surface

[steel pike]

Depends cuz

Soon enough meteorites will land on eachother

And it’ll get deeper and deeper

[fierce hearth]

Hmmm you make a point

Ok consider this

Instantly crash your game by having every shot trigger the WoF death consequences

Loading the V and spawning the infection

[steel pike]

LOL

That’s so good

Every bullet plays the moon lord death animation

[fierce hearth]

Hey speaking of Moon Lord! I kinda hate how the Moon Lord's rev behavior removes his missing eye sprites because of the mechanical changes

I understand wanting to keep the hyper laser because the mini hyper lasers feel kind of ass

But it just stinks

[wooden gulch]

is the update infernum friendly or should i play it in the new death mode

[dull heart]

Infernum will overwrite the new boss reworks

So I wouldn't recommend it a first time through

[drowsy turret]

is the malice mode golem arena supposed to be this small

[fathom girder]

yes

malice mode sucks on purpose

[fierce hearth]

Why does everyone want to play Malice

Why do people think it's meant to be fun, or fair

[fathom girder]

malice is the "I want difficulty" trap

[drowsy turret]

its not fun or fair

[fathom girder]

for people who think difficulty is what matters in games

[fierce hearth]

Theo you may be wiser than most, but that is the exception that proves the rule

[rare tinsel]

satanist mode is the best

[fathom girder]

blows you up

[drowsy turret]

alr i may just skip him like i did in master death

no i did not enjoy master death either

[dull heart]

Satanist mode doesn't have 2.1.2 malice dog so it sucks

[rare tinsel]

whenever someone says “i want harder game” i lure them into playing satanist because it’s really, really funny

[fathom girder]

you're fucking evil wtf'

[drowsy turret]

(pre brainstorm master death ofc)

[fathom girder]

why would you do that

[fierce hearth]

What is Satanist mode

[rare tinsel]

A shitpost difficulty

[fathom girder]

It is the de facto impossible difficulty

[placid wadi]

Extremely unfair difficulty

[rare tinsel]

It’s not believed to be humanly possible

[fathom girder]

wait has it still not been beaten

[rare tinsel]

If you beat it then you’ll get a sizeable cash prize and then the devs will make it harder

[fierce hearth]

I've never heard of it before, what's the conditions for its activation

[fathom girder]

it's a different mod

[fierce hearth]

Gotcha

[placid wadi]

i think it even forces hardcore on you

[rare tinsel]

It’s a mod for Fargo’s Souls

Kinda like Infernum

[fierce hearth]

Mhm mhm

[rare tinsel]

it does not

[placid wadi]

there is one setting for that one tho

[rare tinsel]

it’s not as funny that way

[drowsy turret]

that would be literally humanly impossible then

[placid wadi]

If we put infinite players to play the mod for infinite time on that difficulty one of them would eventually finish it via random inputs

[rare tinsel]

i wonder if the uh

[steel pike]

What is satanist mode

[rare tinsel]

I wonder if WoF will be beatable using a mob switch

[steel pike]

Oh fargos souls

Nvm

[drowsy turret]

fargos souls but evil

[tired adder]

it's a terraria, but the respawn timer is 70 seconds instead of 5

and things instakill you

[wooden gulch]

ight, should i do master or expert

like can it be played on master

[placid wadi]

expert

[tired adder]

there is 5 seconds of normal respawn, and 65 of you dying repeatedly from debuffs, while completely paralyzed

(because debuffs stay after death)

[wooden gulch]

y not master?

[hearty horizon]

Not sure why Astrum Aureus is randomly being a pain in my ass

[placid wadi]

someone already said it but infernum is treated as expert difficulty for calamity

[fierce hearth]

I think there's some confusion here

[wooden gulch]

im talking about the new death rework

[placid wadi]

then master

[fierce hearth]

For 2.1, I think you should play Master, so you have access to Death mode

[dull heart]

Rev forces expert and Death forces Master. You can change after the world is made

[wooden gulch]

o alr

[naive sluice]

not much different from vanilla

[fierce hearth]

Death mode is now Master Rev, instead of its own weird thing

[dull heart]

It doesn't matter what you pick on world creation unless you want ftw

[hearty horizon]

Besides the fact that he somehow keeps jumping and hitting me even though I'm mid- Asgard's Valor dash

[naive sluice]

(why is the wait so long when no bosses and no events)

[dull heart]

That's because only the beginning of the dash is a ram

Notice how long the flame particles last

[tired adder]

vanilla is 15, I am pretty sure

[hearty horizon]

Damn

[fierce hearth]

Yeah ramdashes got nerfed (rightfully)

[dull heart]

they needed it

[fierce hearth]

It's still very possible to abuse them, but you need to be more precise

[tired adder]

so you have to use them like SoC bonk

[dull heart]

What?

elaborate

[tired adder]

because SoC is shorty

[dull heart]

no, soc bonk range is larger than ram ranges

If you want to ram the range for a ram is just a little longer than Deep Diver dash range on valor

I should make a graphic showing ram and dash distances

[fierce hearth]

Yeah ramdashes have the benefit of piercing through the enemy, but much smaller windows for damage and iframes

[hearty horizon]

I should probably get myself a new weapon but idk what to even go for >->

[fierce hearth]

Mage, current boss?

[dull heart]

SoC bonk and High Ruler bonk are much more free in timing

[hearty horizon]

I don't really care for any of the post-Plantera dungeon weapons

[dull heart]

But they bonk tou

High Ruler in 2.1 is so good

[hearty horizon]

Aureus rn

And I think my Gleaming Magnolia isn't doing enough damage unfortunately

Wait I'm fucking stupid

[naive sluice]

Rollerskates gon get immediately nerfed the moment 1.4.5 comes to tmod

[hearty horizon]

Photosynthesis is a thing I can get now

[drowsy turret]

infernum is harder tho

[placid wadi]

it's not about difficulty of the mod

[drowsy turret]

yea

[placid wadi]

but rather what is it's difficulty setting in cal

[fierce hearth]

Tears of Heaven

[drowsy turret]

although the new death scal took me like 30 attempts

[fierce hearth]

Also a good choice

[naive sluice]

i agree cuz the boss fights for base cal are really underwhelming, especially the more older ones

[drowsy turret]

90% of them ended on the brothers phase

[fierce hearth]

I think Tears of Heaven has better single target damage @hearty horizon

[drowsy turret]

my excuse is not being able to see anything due to the vfx of the orderbringer

and yeah i won like the second attempt i switched to exoblade during their phase and my potions even ran out mid run

[hearty horizon]

Oh yayyyyyy I need to find a water bolt

[fierce hearth]

Aw shucks sorry probably not a good idea now in the dungeon lmao

Could bring a zen potion

Also make sure to craft the everglade spray for support

[hearty horizon]

Wait no I don't

[drowsy turret]

my last playthrough was the time i finally realised that to beat ceasless void you barely have to move

[hearty horizon]

I forgot Calamity gives it a crafting recipe

[fierce hearth]

Oh lmao

[drowsy turret]

usually i would fly around the whole arena and it would tp to me and kill me

[hearty horizon]

Spell Tome, Waterleaf, and a Water Candle

[fierce hearth]

But yeah Everglade Spray + Tears of Heaven should do a solid job against Aureus

[hearty horizon]

Oh there's a random gnome in the crater in the top of a living tree that I had to clear a meteor from lmao

[fierce hearth]

If Aureus is frustrating, I think Ana and Levi are more important to beat because they unlock far more powerful gear by beating them

[hearty horizon]

Yeah, but I want to be able to beat Aureus because he drops the Aureus Cells that will make me not have to deal with Deathweed's annoying ass bloom requirements

[fierce hearth]

True lmao

1/8 nights + blood moons is annoying

The important thing about Aureus is that it's stupid and you really only should move when you absolutely need to

Most of its attacks are extremely straightforward, and throwing yourself around it only adds unnecessary chaos to a fight that's otherwise very easy to control

Having a nice 1 or 2 tier arena that's decently wide does a lot

If you already have an arena, buy some astral solution from the steampunker and place a tiny astral infection biome in your existing arena to summon it, as it has only spawn requirements and no enrage conditions

[tired adder]

isn't aureus programmed to land just next to you every time?

[fierce hearth]

Land on top but not very accurately so you have more clearance to run out of the way when it starts decending

[hearty horizon]

No need, my mechs arena is already right next to my natural one considering it popped up right next to my base and I had to push it back a little so I could step outside without getting jumped lmao

[fierce hearth]

Cool cool

But yeah, try to stand still when it starts jumping, so that you can quickly accelerate away when it tries to land on you

And then outrun it when it walks

[tacit apex]

im playing melee, should i take ichor or cursed flame flasks?

[hearty horizon]

Like this is a screenshot I took when I first found it lol

[fierce hearth]

Ichor is usually better unless you have particularly high damage

[dull heart]

Depends on enemy

On fire weak enemies like plantera do cursed flame

Although by plantera you can use brimstone flask

[fierce hearth]

Truuuu forgot damage vuln

[hearty horizon]

Huh. I remember Everglade Spray being more expensive than just Perrenial and the evil tome lmao

[fierce hearth]

Honestly a good way to think about it is if you are using a powerful weapon, ichor is better if you land more than 2 hits a second, but cursed flame is better if you hit less often than that

[dull heart]

uhh

no

[fierce hearth]

Did I do my math wrong?

[dull heart]

Ichor is +5 dmg per hit and cursed flame is 24 dps, no?

Or is it 12

[fierce hearth]

right it's 12 on players

I always think about player numbers

So it's 5 hits per second LMAO

[rotund venture]

Is enemy defense not the same as player defense where its stronger on higher diff?

[dull heart]

10 hits per second when fire weak

[dull heart]

Nope

Always 50% power

[pulsar cobalt]

enemy def is always 50% effectiveness

[rotund venture]

Ichor is minus 10? Not 20?

[hearty horizon]

I may also just bite the bullet and grab an offensive Spectre armor set ;-; as much as I love Brimflame, using Regenerator with it is an especially massive risk

[dull heart]

It's -15 in vanilla and -10 in cal

[tacit apex]

could the flask of crumbling compete?

[fierce hearth]

Which is an absurd demand with any weapon except like, baghnakhs

[dull heart]

yeah

Unless you use minions too

[fierce hearth]

Mhm

[dull heart]

Or are in multiplayer

[dull heart]

I don't think so at that tier

I haven't done the math tho

[fierce hearth]

But then you can have someone with the other flask

[rotund venture]

I always assumed ichor was better than that but it seems not that great

[dull heart]

not if they're ranged or Mage

[polar tide]

im way too stupid to fully understand how defense and debuffs work and how to optimize them so i just use whatever feels right

[rotund venture]

Unless defense goes into negatives, which I assume is a no

[fierce hearth]

Then they could have piss bullets or the golden shower

[dull heart]

only if they wanna weapon swap

[dull heart]

It does not

[fierce hearth]

True...

Ichor is good but it's less overtuned

[rotund venture]

I should really look into enemy defenses and the whole iframe thing

[fierce hearth]

In vanilla it's almost always better because you only need 4 hits per sec to outclass cursed flame

Which is v easy with melee speed boosts

[dull heart]

what is there to look into for iframes

[rotund venture]

Then again using cool fun weapons works

Local vs global stuff, idk how any if that work

[fierce hearth]

Didn't 2.1 make almost everything local

[dull heart]

No

[pulsar cobalt]

global is all sources
static is same projectile type
local is only that instance of the projectile

[dull heart]

It made almost everything global into static

[fierce hearth]

Right

Basically mixing weapons is now a lot better

Or well, more consistently good, instead of random instances of completely fucking your dps

[dull heart]

yea

[fierce hearth]

That was a big reason why I hesitated to play with summons on other classes for a while, bc random summons would just gut my dps

[hearty horizon]

Do you think Primordial Earth would be good to go for?

[dull heart]

Wasp Gun and Bee Gun glow up of the century

Not using global makes them insanely good weapon swaps

[rotund venture]

That line is great

Real fun, good utility

[fierce hearth]

I haven't tried them but should

[rotund venture]

12 sec buff is v nice

[hearty horizon]

Oh damn it I need ancient cloth for DVD

Yay

[fierce hearth]

Candles and pots in the underground desert yay

[main estuary]

old primordial earth was funky

like
literally just a giant constant hitbox

[thorny fjord]

Speaking of, did vanilla or us change bee from accessories I frames? As it was super silly they could mess with your dps

[fierce hearth]

Lmao my dust particle rectangles

[rotund venture]

Whoever did the sound for the primordial earth line is brilliant btw

Its so good

[pulsar cobalt]

cal changed it i think

pretty sure they use the same projectiles as bee gun n stuff

[dull heart]

We removed all global

With only a few exceptions

[rotund venture]

For things to mess with dps theyd need to use global iframes, is my understanding correct?

[dull heart]

yes

[fierce hearth]

What exceptions I'm curious

Traps?

[dull heart]

stuff like daybreak

That broke hard when set to static

[pulsar cobalt]

correct

[fierce hearth]

Lmao? That's funny

[dull heart]

The impale just stopped happening when set to not global

[pulsar cobalt]

lol?

[fierce hearth]

I guess fossil javs too then

[dull heart]

Influx waiver multi hit stopped working too

[hearty horizon]

Oh Tears of Heaven is a homing weapon, interesting

[steel pike]

Question about supreme calamitas when did you guys change the sprite from the eye thing

[thorny fjord]

Yeah, a couple weapons have their effects in weird places and break when not global. We may have even missed some

[fierce hearth]

That was years ago

Like what, 2020?

[dull heart]

I doubt we missed any considering my list was extracted from the game

[steel pike]

I remember as a kid both calamitas clone and scal were like eoc in shape

[rotund venture]

Everytime I see the weapons reworks yall did I get ao excited

[steel pike]

Oh wow

[rotund venture]

Genuinely great work

[thorny fjord]

I mean missed some that broke, like daybreak and stuff

[fierce hearth]

Huh, google showed me interesting preview results when googling "supreme calamitas"

Wasn't expecting to be blasted like that

[steel pike]

What were they

Oh

So nvm then

[jaunty scarab]

are you no longer able to craft effigy of decay?

[fierce hearth]

I cannot share, or clarify, lest I be punished rightfully

Also checked, 2021 was when the sprites were changed

[thorny fjord]

You never were able to in normal calamity

[rare tinsel]

No, that recipe was removed

[steel pike]

Oh sick

[dull heart]

Oh we definitely did

[steel pike]

Was that

[dull heart]

Magic Missile hits twice rn

For example

[hushed monolith]

bugfix update 2027

[steel pike]

Around the same time they changed DoG

Or was that earlier

[rancid pagoda]

yes you were before 2.1

[thorny fjord]

Wait I was thinking of the other effigies

My bad

[rotund venture]

I knew magic missile was too good

[hearty horizon]

Oh hi butterfly, I forgot you existed

[thorny fjord]

I was thinking of the crimson and corruption ones

[dull heart]

So does stynger

[rotund venture]

Used it in my playthrough and just felt off

[rancid pagoda]

yeah the evil effigies are not craftable

[jaunty scarab]

wow so now i gotta waste 30 mins trryan find a effigy so pointless

[hearty horizon]

I probably shouldn't just spam stuff here lest I piss off the fucking Radiance

[fierce hearth]

Last DoG resprite was 2019

[pulsar cobalt]

nebula blaze and meteor staff

wow a surprising amount are mage weapons

[steel pike]

Ohh

[rancid pagoda]

and now the evil effigies are clickable buffs instead of arena buffs which is so much better considering you only got the one

[steel pike]

So def earlier

[rotund venture]

Are flamelash abd rainbow rod also broken like magic missile?

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[steel pike]

Forgot Magic missile even exists

[fierce hearth]

I need to remember what the first version of Calamity I played was

[pulsar cobalt]

when they run out of pierce they dont explode

[rotund venture]

Early 2018 for me

[dull heart]

Flamelash explodes

[pulsar cobalt]

oh it does?

[fierce hearth]

I think the first version of Calamity I played was the 1.4.2 patch cycle

[rotund venture]

Ye im pretty sure it was hitting multiple times wheb I used it

Dont remember tho

[fierce hearth]

Which was early-mid 2019

[hushed monolith]

2017 but I was buns and got stuck on cryogen

2019 was my first full playthrough

[thorny fjord]

Idk the number, but scal didn't have a border or bullet hells and her drops constantly got lost due to floating

Calamitous essence that is

[fierce hearth]

I know Rogue existed when I first played, but I can't remember if the Sunken Sea did, so at the earliest I played in early 2019

[rotund venture]

I remember that oh my god I lost her deops several times

[hearty horizon]

God, looking for amber now gives me The Stars Above PTSD. So many gems for those stellar foci.

[fierce hearth]

My first calamity playthrough was also multiplayer

I'd like to do a multiplayer run again but no one in my polycule wants to play Calamity

Terraria is unfortunately a "stupid cringe baby game"

[hushed monolith]

id love be be able to continue my multiplayer death mode playthrough rn but they NEED TO FIX THE BUG FIRST

[hushed monolith]

shit friends

[fierce hearth]

LMAO they say it with love in their hearts

[hushed monolith]

0 taste

[earnest jewel]

7th best selling game of all time? Must be a lot of toddlers.
Wait a goddamn minute is that why nobody here can read!?

[fierce hearth]

Look I also mock the games they turn to as well. We're all haters 💔

[rare tinsel]

yeah

[hearty horizon]

Which bug?

[rare tinsel]

i just get chatgpt to read everything for me

[hoary sorrel]

is infernum multiplayer bugged?

[hushed monolith]

https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/1475918003848614071 projectiles just seem to disappear

[still cobalt]

We ALL do ts

[steel pike]

US

YOU and ME

[strange cargo]

FUCK GENAI

[hushed monolith]

but only enemy ones that could be broken by blocks. not the like whips and weapon ones people are describing with the burrower

[hearty horizon]

So YOU'RE why RAM prices are so high!

[pulsar cobalt]

calamity mod reported to have ai in next update

[rare tinsel]

i keep eatinf it

[steel pike]

@grok

[fierce hearth]

@grok how do i beat supreme calamitas

[dull heart]

It will be fixed soon

[fierce hearth]

I kind of want to read chatgpt's calamity boss tips

But I have never and will never use it

[hushed monolith]

is it the same thing as the burrower bug? i just havent heard anyone that had that one talk about enemy projectiles glitching, only their own. and also I disabled the burrower and still happens

[steel pike]

@grok slime out goblin tinkerer

[steel pike]

@grok fix this bug

[fierce hearth]

[steel pike]

@grok punt this thing

[fierce hearth]

This is your fault

[steel pike]

@grok summarize this

You bet it is

[thin pawn]

Dessert prowler for ranged??

[atomic bay]

outdated

🤯

[fierce hearth]

Boss and class guides are outdated as hell!

Ignore them!

Explore your strategy for yourself!

The "this guide is outdated" banner needs to be the size of your entire browser screen

[dull heart]

It might be yeah

[fierce hearth]

Y'know I know it was implemented very poorly but I personally liked being able to manipulate Polterghast's aggression with arena design

I wish arena design being a way to more directly interact with bosses was more common

[amber furnace]

@cedar lava is melee the meta

[rare tinsel]

grok is this real

[tribal isle]

yes

always play melee

[hard copper]

grok when is sso

[amber furnace]

I do

[tribal isle]

ranger sucks, mage is boring, summoner is for wussies, who cares about rogue

[amber furnace]

100%

[fierce hearth]

Ultimately I don't think Calamity is the best place for this kind of design, but it's something I'd like to see

[rare tinsel]

true melee tho

[amber furnace]

I do true melee too

[rare tinsel]

no, you do true melee only

starting… right now

[steel pike]

@grok summarize this statement into an acronym so I can understand it

[tropic jolt]

🤖 sso is: tomorrow

[tribal isle]

is orderbringer true melee approved

[rare tinsel]

tainted orderbringer, yeah

[amber furnace]

blud doesnt know I did true melee malice

[rare tinsel]

good! now nohit with true melee

[steel pike]

@cyvergrok what is the entire Riemann Hypothesis formula

from memory

[tropic jolt]

🤖 idk

[steel pike]

@metaai how to shut down grok permanently for not knowing something

[amber furnace]

have you

[tropic jolt]

[rare tinsel]

yeah

[steel pike]

you’re not meta ai. Silence grok.

[rare tinsel]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS7BsbUnSJuRUYWKyhypAASZdQRNvrUoi

epic embed fail

[amber furnace]

chatgpt explode this guy with israeli rage

[tropic jolt]

picksaw meta

[rare tinsel]

it really is tbh

[tropic jolt]

if I had a nickel for every time a true melee infernum no hit journey stopped at moon lord I would have 2 nickels

[amber egret]

what about Grand Guardian though

[rare tinsel]

who?

[amber egret]

Grand Guardian

the post pillars upgrade to Majestic Guard

its quite good is it not

(for moon lord)

[fierce hearth]

It got reworked and I think it's better now

I used it against ML's heart

[amber furnace]

my fav weapon is the last mourning

[languid rapids]

can someone explain to me how exactly the Wulfrom Bobber fishing minigame actually works it says if i do the right input but what inputs WASD isnt the right ones

[fierce hearth]

You need to hold the input after the ring comes out, and not let it go until the next ring or the catch occurs

It is not tapping

[languid rapids]

aahh ty

[fierce hearth]

I like the fishing mini games but it is a little disappointing that if you get a proper fishing setup, they become worse than just idle fishing

Especially if you get a multi hook rod

Full angler with supreme bait bag and feral rod is better without a funny bobber than with in my experience

Mostly bc catch times scale with fishing power in normal fishing, but not with the minigames

Now if catch count scaled with fishing power with the minigames, they might be competitive again

[hollow harness]

I thought wulfrum bobber increased the rarity of catches the more succesful catches you did

[dull heart]

it can catch stuff faster

[hollow harness]

I know

[dull heart]

The minigame just speeds up the longer you gk

[hearty horizon]

Yay now I have aureus cells

Nice both because of Deathweed being annoying AND because for some reason magic power has half the buff duration of every other buff I have

Which thankfully is not the case for the aureus cells

[hearty horizon]

Oh, I kind of like this Astralachnea Staff

[fierce hearth]

Yeah it's solid single target damage

Good option to kick levi and ana's ass

[green viper]

does it not take bait or something as well?
never bothered fishing for stuff I never wanted when using sonar

[dull heart]

yeah they don't use bait rn bc of a bug

[hearty horizon]

Yeah, I was just gonna ask, did they get made easier in this update? I beat their asses so much harder than I did on my rogue playthrough before the update

Like it was BAD

They just died

[fathom girder]

aren't bugs supposed to be the bait

get fucked

embed FAAAAAIL

[icy stump]

Bro...

[ashen pivot]

embeds be so bipolar

[fathom girder]

lul

[tribal isle]

Are you questioning the calamity mod dev

[ashen pivot]

a gif that works in caladdon doesn't work in calupdate like 20 mins later

[fathom girder]

I question doze all the time

I think there's perm differences between the channels

[distant raft]

cat has embed perms while cmt doesnt

and cst

cst doesnt

[fathom girder]

cst doesn't exist

it's cut now

nerd

[tribal isle]

This is why cat is superior even if I stopped talking there like half a year ago

[hearty horizon]

Like I'm genuinely confused, I forgot my buffs for the entire first part of the fight until Leviathan showed up and I didn't even notice

[fathom girder]

Rogue likely just fucks up levi

they usually cause me problems I'm ngl

never been good at that fight

[tropic jolt]

🐱

[hearty horizon]

I'm not on rogue this time, I'm on mage

[fathom girder]

OH

mage is just very strong at that stage

[tribal isle]

Why did they rename cst

[fathom girder]

like hilariously strong

[arctic cliff]

@hearty horizon out of curiosity whats your build

[fathom girder]

Cuz by that point you've got chaos stone, primordial ruin

[hearty horizon]

They usually fuck me up, too, again, I'm wondering if they got nerfed

[fathom girder]

that combo destroys levi hard

I don't think they got nerfed no

[dull heart]

fun fact

Old Lord Claymore does 2.5x dmg while holding right click too

[fathom girder]

???

that can't be intended

[hearty horizon]

Brimflame armor (that I didn't even use the set bonus on apart from once), Spectre Wings, Asgard's Valor, Mana Polarizer, Spectre Boots, Necklace of Vexation, and Regenerator, all Arcane

[fathom girder]

I'm abusing that next run though

[dull heart]

It's not intended

[hearty horizon]

And I'm confused because like Astrum Aureus was a massive pain in my ass and then Levi just

Died

[dull heart]

Accidental carry over from basher

[fathom girder]

that's amusing

[dull heart]

I wonder how long it's viable

[arctic cliff]

BASHER WAS TURNED INTO OLD LORD CLAYMORE?

[fathom girder]

2.5x on what, 150 damage?

[arctic cliff]

375

[fathom girder]

375 damage swings yeah

it could probably kill Destroyer in an acceptable time

[hearty horizon]

I didn't even really use Primordial Earth's buff either, it was basically just Everglade Spray and Astralachnea Staff

Like that was incredibly easy and much easier than I expected

[fathom girder]

Just an oversight cuz it's easy to reuse assets for simple animation edits that two different weapons use similar attacks for

From the sound of it

[dull heart]

144 base dmg yea

[fathom girder]

they just took basher, replaced the sprite, fixed the vfx to match

[dull heart]

Apparently

[fathom girder]

The buff doesn't work on specifically primordial earth

[arctic cliff]

well thats good amen then

[fathom girder]

lol

[dull heart]

it's so funny

[fathom girder]

At least when I played with it last patch

[steel pike]

Is supreme calamitas ever gonna get like a real canon birth name

Or is it gonna remain unknown

[fathom girder]

the buff just doesn't work but it does work on the earlier version

[dull heart]

Her birth name is ur mom :sunglassesexplosion:

[steel pike]

wilts and dies

[hearty horizon]

I'm aware

[ashen pivot]

[fathom girder]

oh I see

[hearty horizon]

I mean I didn't even like get the buff

They just d i e d

[fathom girder]

Who knew threwing two rocks at an enemy was more potent than throwing just one

such a funny weapon

[ashen pivot]

it can't be

[fathom girder]

also, the way they drew those rocks is really clever

they're not sprites

they're particles

but it's not circle particles

you can see it if you pause the game mid-cast by like. tabbing out

[steel pike]

threwing

[fathom girder]

mom I threwed up

[ashen pivot]

how'd i not catch that

[rugged belfry]

is it just me or is my version stuck on 2.0.7.2

[hearty horizon]

Okay I actually adore this rework for Anahita's Arpeggio

Yeah, this is neat, I love this

Did Atlantis get an attack speed buff? It feels a lot faster to me

[fierce hearth]

Check tmodloader version and try removing and reinstalling calamity itself

[rugged belfry]

ok

[hearty horizon]

Both of these weapons feel like they were explicitly designed to make Golem regret every single life choice and I am all for it

Time to test that theory lol

[hearty horizon]

Is there a particular reason the Aquatic Heart isn't dropping from the Anahita summon or am I just unlucky?

[frozen horizon]

Maybe you have to kill Anahita last 🤷‍♂️

[hearty horizon]

No, it's supposed to drop from the thing you kill to summon her, not the actual boss

[frozen horizon]

Wait

[hearty horizon]

Unless they changed it in this update

[frozen horizon]

Wiki says that ??? has a 25% drop rate for Aquatic Heart.

[earnest jewel]

You mean the ???

[hearty horizon]

Yeah

[hearty horizon]

I know, but also the wiki isn't fully updated

So I'm not sure if that was changed or not

[frozen horizon]

Are you post-Skeletron? Apparently it doesn't do anything until Skeletron is defeated, maybe the new update made it only drop after Skeletron/

[hearty horizon]

I'm post-Plantera, so yes

[frozen horizon]

I don't know then.

[hearty horizon]

There we go, guess I just got unlucky

Oh, you can get a vanity item for the screen tint when Leviathan shows up? When was that a thing?

[distant raft]

1.4.2 iirc

oh damn the monoliths are actually relatively new

2.0.4

[hearty horizon]

God DAMN I just got jumpscared by a squid

[earnest jewel]

Was it like, really strong?

[hearty horizon]

It was a Colossal Squid so, uh, yeah, pretty strong lol

[grave geyser]

oddly specific

[fierce hearth]

Tying a drop to a boss summon enemy kill is so weird

[lyric trellis]

A billion things happened then so makes sense

[grave geyser]

update so old rogue wasnt a functional class yet ❤️

[tulip sonnet]

does the world difficulty matter after you change it through calamity?

[earnest jewel]

It changes it.

[tulip sonnet]

like is master mode + revengance harder than expert + revengance

[earnest jewel]

No such thing for the first.

[misty wren]

well master rev doesnt exist its just death

[tulip sonnet]

oh

what do yall think is the most balanced but hard difficulty

[grave geyser]

I would say death

but that would imply death is difficult

[tulip sonnet]

im thinking of infernum

[steel pike]

saint pablo reference

[earnest jewel]

Not from Calamity.

[spiral tree]

ur only able to get 5 hellstone pre evil boss on the hell lab or is there more

[tulip sonnet]

yeah ik

[neat rapids]

With is the next boss that is annonced guys

[earnest jewel]

Roxcalibur.

[earnest jewel]

What?

[spiral tree]

oh thx!

[tulip sonnet]

is the one above death hard?

like i dont want it to be too hard that it is unfun

[neat rapids]

What boss calamity team will make next

[earnest jewel]

Yharim.

[tulip sonnet]

but im playing with friends and i want to take the game slowly

and on my solo world revengance is way too easy

[neat rapids]

Is it coming soon ?

[earnest jewel]

No.

[neat rapids]

Damn

[spiral tree]

how does roxcalibur look on the map?

[grave geyser]

malice? its not really a difficulty meant to be enjoyed

[earnest jewel]

It has a whole shrine.

[neat rapids]

Will he be like harder than calamitas

[earnest jewel]

Yes.

[neat rapids]

Cool

[earnest jewel]

He will be the final boss before the two potential Superbosses.
There are no other planned bosses.

[tulip sonnet]

ok that is what i was worried about

do you know anything about infernum?

[grave geyser]

its practically a completely different mod

infernum

that is

[earnest jewel]

Wrong reply.

[grave geyser]

yes

[tulip sonnet]

i thought it just changes how the calamity bosses act

or am i mistaken

[earnest jewel]

You are.

It changes the Abyss and Hell.

[grave geyser]

^
infernum has a massive laundry list of changes compared to base calamity

[tulip sonnet]

huh i thought it just made it harder

is it fun?

[earnest jewel]

Ehhhhh....

[grave geyser]

depends entirely on who you ask

the bosses are like
fine
they're overall better than cals roster but thats really not saying much

[tulip sonnet]

to clarify, by too hard i mean like that seed on the base game

that does legendary mode or whatever

[earnest jewel]

What?

[tulip sonnet]

from what ive seen that looks just not fun

[grave geyser]

malice is built upon the design principle of "make the bosses as bullshit as we can think of"

[tulip sonnet]

ah ok

i think i will just do death

[fierce hearth]

Infernum is "hard but fair" from what I have heard

Whereas Legendary/Malice is "bullshit"

[misty wren]

not necessarily hard

ive said it before and ill say it again inf isnt necessarily harder than basecal its just different

[earnest jewel]

Infernum likes to be a rhythm game in the late game.