calamity-update-talk

[dusk bronze]

chaos stone 💚

[rich crystal]

Yea, I’ve played every class multiple times except mage

So I might try it out

[pseudo vector]

mana is not usually that much of a problem with mage if you have the right equipment

[rich crystal]

The weapons are cool as freak I just don’t like the start of the game

[dusk bronze]

preboss mage is good now (frost bolt)

[rich crystal]

That’s my main thing, getting set up with mage I just find it boring

[pseudo vector]

early game mage isn't the greatest in general but things pick up well, even towards the end of pre-hardmode

hardmode is where mage gets REALLY good though

[dusk bronze]

also didn't you guys buff arcane

[final dune]

frost bolt has always been great

[halcyon seal]

Genuinely if gem staffs had double projectile velocity mage would be SO fun early game

[rich crystal]

I’ll try it this playthrough, it’s just the start is my main problem

I’d say my ranking for classes are

1. Summoner, 2. Melee, 3. Ranged, 4. Rogue, 5. Mage

Maybe swap melee and summoner honesty

[pseudo vector]

i no rember

[dusk bronze]

[halcyon seal]

I don’t know why people think melee is that good

It’s not even the 3rd best class imo

Ranger gaps it

[wicked halo]

I don't know why people think Ranger sucks.

[craggy wagon]

tankiness and relogic favoritism

[halcyon seal]

Everyone can get tanky

[dusk bronze]

idk why people still think rogue sucks in 2026

[craggy wagon]

kinda boring mid/lategame

[wicked halo]

Like 99% it's just cause of people being too stupid to use it and it's lack of flashiness.

[halcyon seal]

And most relogic favoritism is nothing special in cal

[rich crystal]

I honestly love all the classes

[halcyon seal]

Terra Blade is great but it’s not uniquely strong for its stage of the game

[rich crystal]

Except mage but im unbiased on that

[wicked halo]

Boring doesn't mean ineffective and the Ranger class isn't the latter.

If anything Ranger is kind of overpowered at times.

[rich crystal]

I can’t love a class I’ve never played

[craggy wagon]

mage has always been the boss shredding class for me at least

[final dune]

honestly I dont like cal summoner, I love vanilla summoner

[halcyon seal]

Ranger is on average a pretty good and consistent class that randomly becomes like the best class in the game at times

[dusk bronze]

it's the weakest class in the game

[wicked halo]

Exactly.

[dusk bronze]

by far

[wicked halo]

The best trait of Ranger is literally that it's easy to use.

[craggy wagon]

it is???

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[wicked halo]

Most of the good weapons are super easy to gain.

[halcyon seal]

Enlightenment is realizing that every class except stealth rogue and summoner are literally identical

[craggy wagon]

okay wow. ig ive been suffering for big witch hat aesthetic...

[dusk bronze]

unless you abuse hyper specific glorious end tech

[rich crystal]

No class sucks, it all ranges at different points in the game, like say at the beginning summoner may be booty cheeks but late game it’s amazing

[dusk bronze]

then it's the best

[halcyon seal]

Now tbf mage has the best weapon in the game

…if you use cheese

[rich crystal]

Really depends on how far you are in the game

[halcyon seal]

If you don’t then it’s bad

[wicked halo]

Mage and Summoner have to leap through several flaming hoops to get half-decent while Ranger just gets some bars, gets a bow and a few Jester Arrows.

[halcyon seal]

No mage definitely sucks

That class is not good

[dusk bronze]

it is not

[halcyon seal]

Summoner I don’t think has a single point where it’s bad because Stormjaw shreds Desert Scourge and King Slime

[wicked halo]

Haven't actually done a Mage playthrough.

[rich crystal]

That’s prolly just a skill issue

[halcyon seal]

Then you get Brittle Stars

[craggy wagon]

cheese is overrated! unless its the golem arena platform stuff (or white cheddar... god im hungry)

[fathom girder]

mage is gonna be peak in brainstorm

I'm reggie

[wicked halo]

Might be worth it for a second Brainstorm playthrough.

[pseudo vector]

mage is much better in brainstorm

like much much better

[wicked halo]

Go eat.

[halcyon seal]

If we want to talk good cheeses we can’t not mention Gorgonzola

[craggy wagon]

okay...

[rich crystal]

I’m gonna play it in brainstorm that’s the only time I’ll try it

Vanilla mage is boring as freak

[pseudo vector]

its honestly the most enjoyable class for me nowadays

[dusk bronze]

🙂‍↕️

[wicked halo]

I'm going melee first playthrough.

My main is Ranger.

[halcyon seal]

That’s good to hear

[dusk bronze]

install vfx+
genuinely fixes vanilla mage entirely

[craggy wagon]

[wicked halo]

That being said I am warming up to Melee but just for like.

True melee.

AKA actually being melee.

[rich crystal]

Yea but that’s too much work when I can just play calamity

Ok so what’re the changes gonna be in Infernum cause it’s getting updated isn’t it?

[craggy wagon]

tears shirt off to reveal giant "i ❤️ vfx+" tattoo

[dusk bronze]

real

[halcyon seal]

Hot take: true melee is fundamentally impossible to balance

[craggy wagon]

i LOVE vfx+ oh my god

[halcyon seal]

If not impossible, it’s so difficult as to not be worth the headache

[dusk bronze]

true

[rich crystal]

True melee looks so fun, after watching Yhardis’s playthrough on it

It’s insanely OP if used right

[halcyon seal]

It’s fun, if you’re playing infernum

[rich crystal]

But Yhardis is cracked

[halcyon seal]

If you’re playing basecal it’s absolutely miserable

[rich crystal]

Oh yea of course

[dusk bronze]

not in brainstorm !!!!!

[craggy wagon]

i always avoid true melee on anything that isn't dragon rage since im a coward..

[halcyon seal]

True melee’s biggest problem is how polarizing it is

[fathom girder]

brainstorm will literally do your taxes

[dusk bronze]

mostly

[halcyon seal]

It’s either complete unviable garbage or it kills the boss in 30 seconds

[rich crystal]

What’s the next update after brainstorm?

[halcyon seal]

I cannot think of a true melee weapon which is just good

[dusk bronze]

devs dunno

whatever they feel like

[rich crystal]

Oh I’m so happy we’re finally getting a DoG update

That boss is horrible

Genuinely

Least favorite boss honestly

[wicked halo]

I hope the update after Brainstorm is gonna have at least the first tier of Arsenal armor.

[rich crystal]

No offense to devs but like

[halcyon seal]

maybe this year

[wicked halo]

It looks so drippy.

[rich crystal]

It’s booty cheeks

[craggy wagon]

DoG was fine for me but what grinded my gears for the longest time was the stupid laser wall

[dusk bronze]

full offense to the devs

fabsol made it

[wicked halo]

The devs agree.

[rich crystal]

Oh yea

Full offense

Of course fabsol made the worst boss ever created

[pseudo vector]

oh no we're aware current public DoG is complete ass

[halcyon seal]

He also made every boss (except scal brothers)

[dusk bronze]

and hive mind

[pseudo vector]

brainstorm DoG is a significant improvement from the amount i've played

[dusk bronze]

he did literally everything else by himself

[rich crystal]

I wonder if some people enjoy making the worst bosses ever created in games

Like people make horrible bosses on purpose for pure enjoyment

[dusk bronze]

dude they're not even the same character atp

[pseudo vector]

i've sunk over 40 hours into playtesting brainstom DoG, especially on death mode and its probably the best fight in the mod imo

who thought that in the big 26 that brain of cthulhu and devourer of gods would be the best bosses in calamity lmao

[rich crystal]

I’d say post DoG is my favorite part of the game, maybe it’ll change to Post Poltergeist

[craggy wagon]

shocked its not the brainworms update

[wicked halo]

Fuck that would've been the perfect name.

[dusk bronze]

stratus weapons 💚 💚 💚

[craggy wagon]

Calamity 2.1: The Gang Gets Worms

[rich crystal]

Next update they’ll finally add Yharon to the game🔥 🔥

Or aren’t they doing a Yharon rework? I thought I heard about that or am I just stupid

[pseudo vector]

the yharon rework will happen at some point

we don't know when

but at some point

[rich crystal]

Yea fair point

I like the boss anyways though

[dusk bronze]

the spriter is mia for now

[rich crystal]

So a rework will be sad 💔

I meant to say add Yharim to the game not Yharon

[dusk bronze]

the point of a rework is to make it better

[pseudo vector]

dia isn't mia perse, he's just busy with other projects currently

[rich crystal]

Good point fr

Currently Yharon is my favorite boss

[pseudo vector]

he still pops up and does cool stuff when he appears

[wicked halo]

Yharim is far, far from now.

[dusk bronze]

ic

[wicked halo]

He's probably like.

[pseudo vector]

yharim is the last thing we plan to do for the mod

[wicked halo]

Final update I think.

Yeah.

[rich crystal]

So when’re the calamity devs making terraria 2? 🤨

[wicked halo]

When Re-Logic makes it.

[rich crystal]

Oh wow that’s crazy so yea it’ll be forever lol

[craggy wagon]

no superbosses?

[wicked halo]

Superbosses are a "maybe"

[rich crystal]

Could be before the Yharim update

[wicked halo]

Depends on if the devs wanna actually do it or not.

[rich crystal]

Or Yharim could be a super boss

[dusk bronze]

no

[wicked halo]

It'll be after Yharim.

[dusk bronze]

no they couldn't

[dusk bronze]

also no

that's not what a superboss is

[rich crystal]

Ok my fault I’ll just die then 💔

In game

I’m gonna do a hardcore calamity playthrough

[wicked halo]

Good luck.

[hoary edge]

good luck 👍

[rich crystal]

Yeaaa I’m not making it past EoC 💔

I’m not making it out of the underground

[pine onyx]

lets fucking go

Dog is FINALLY good

[pseudo vector]

i honestly think brainstorm death mode dog is the most enjoyable dog's fight has ever been

[pine onyx]

I dont need to play infernum to have a good dog now

[pseudo vector]

and that's with no exaggeration

[pine onyx]

but ive recently got back into it

shoulda waited out

[pine onyx]

You'd take brainstorm dog over infernum dog?

[pseudo vector]

easily

i'm not a huge fan of infernum dog

[pine onyx]

That's promising

[rich crystal]

Well that’s not a very big achievement because Dog has never been enjoyable in base calamity

[pine onyx]

would i need to make a new world because dog is structure based or not?

[rich crystal]

Jk I’m actually excited

[rich crystal]

Wait it’s structure based now??

[amber egret]

i <3 aura and style

[summer shore]

No

[pale silo]

It's not structure based

[amber egret]

no no you fight DoG in a box now

[pseudo vector]

not for dog, but there is new draedon lab generation

[pine onyx]

Im asking for a reason

[amber egret]

how does this affect DOG

[pine onyx]

Alright that's cool

[pale silo]

A new world would be best still for new generation content

[amber egret]

DoG*

[pseudo vector]

i don't like the ram your head into a wall mentality that infernum dog forces you into

its way too punishing and very unintuitive to learn

[pine onyx]

IMO dog works but yharon doesn't

[rich crystal]

Will there be an actual reason to go to draedon labs now besides the dudes that i forgot the name of for some reason?

[pale silo]

Most of infernum does it tbh. It's a rhythm game not terraria

[pine onyx]

Every worm boss up to that point has been ramming into you

[pale silo]

Just the rest of the bosses you can accidentally tank thru

[pseudo vector]

i much preferred infernum yharon over dog

[pine onyx]

infernum yharon is just

[pale silo]

Dog will near one shot you

[pine onyx]

trash

[pale silo]

The ram isn't the problem btw

[pine onyx]

You get 2 back-to-back ram based bosses

[pale silo]

It's the damage on the ram

[rich crystal]

I like Infernum Yharon but I’ve never beat Infernum cal or exo mechs

I remembered the name

[pine onyx]

Its the only boss ive no-hit

[pale silo]

Because you're near forced to

[pine onyx]

Its punishing as shit sure but there's really no bs projectile spam

[pseudo vector]

but yeah i'm hoping you guys enjoy brainstorm dog

[pale silo]

So it's easy to jump from barely winning into no hitting it

[pine onyx]

We'll see bout that

how's that draedon theme goin?

[rich crystal]

Yea you basically have to ram in Infernum or you’re dead

[steep path]

Seeing the defabsolification of boss ai is gonna be pretty exciting

[pine onyx]

You can learn the boss i know

[pseudo vector]

been focussed on helping with brainstorm

[pine onyx]

Crazy shit

[pale silo]

Not saying you cant

But it is near required to be no hitting it is the problem

[pine onyx]

calamity bosses generally weren't very good

up to maybe this point

[pseudo vector]

exos theme has been put to the wayside for the time being because i've been doing other things for this update

[amber egret]

CDMusic casually making Yharim boss and theme before remaking Exo Mech Theme (he doesn't feel like it)

[pseudo vector]

like sound effects and helping with the trailer

[pine onyx]

Infernum cal 3 shots me on a melee slot i'd take more issue with that

[summer shore]

I love infernum yharon definitely my favorite fight from that mod

[pine onyx]

Dog is fine to me since he's not that hard to learn

[pseudo vector]

the last month especially has been really busy for me

[pine onyx]

[summer shore]

So much sauce

[rich crystal]

Honestly I do thank you devs for calamity cause it’s the most fun I’ve had in games in a while, I’ve put in a few hundred hours into just calamity I don’t know how much thanks yall get but thank you 🙏

[pine onyx]

I hate infernum yharon

[amber egret]

i Hate inf Yharon.

[pine onyx]

i despise

it

its shit

it sucks

its not fun

[summer shore]

Lol

[pseudo vector]

okay am i crazy for thinking that infernum golem is my favourite infernum boss

[rich crystal]

I’ve stayed up till 7 am playing calamity before

[amber egret]

i solely hate the first phase's corrective dashes

[pale silo]

Inf yharon is pretty fun tbh. Minus the last 10%

[pine onyx]

Not at all lmfao i was surprised

[pseudo vector]

like i love infernum golem with all my heart

[amber egret]

i had to use fucking Leviathan Ambergris

[pine onyx]

also

cd

is old duke getting reworked?

[dusk bronze]

it just turns into a white smear in phase 3

[rich crystal]

I spent like 12 minutes on Infernum golem

[pine onyx]

i mean i assume he is

[steep path]

Friend pointed out something to me about the giant dog sprite being scrapped - that sprite probably would have glitched out so horribly in multiplayer LOL

[pine onyx]

he BETTER be good for the first time in history

[rich crystal]

I despise Infernum golem

[dusk bronze]

oh true

[gloomy grove]

how so

[pine onyx]

it wouldn't have worked

[pseudo vector]

old duke got some visual reworks in brainstorm courtesy of ennway

[pine onyx]

how do you make that a boss

[rich crystal]

Is it crazy to say I’ve only ever fought Old Duke once and never actually beaten it

[pine onyx]

Icl old duke needs a rework

[pine onyx]

this

is the issue

[pseudo vector]

not even gonna lie the new presentation that old duke has now does a lot for the fight

[steep path]

Worms in general have a history of bugging out in multi - but having a similar bug occur with segments that gigantic could end up being a huge mess

[summer shore]

That's aura

[pine onyx]

OD is plainly bad

[rich crystal]

My main thing with old Duke is getting the summon item for it I don’t like getting them

[deft lily]

more at 7

[pine onyx]

and theres no reason to do OD as polterghast exists

[pseudo vector]

i honestly enjoyed him way more in testing than i did when i initially fought him back in the day

[summer shore]

My favorite part of inf yharon isn't the dashes it's how the fight forces you to manage its area denial so that you don't get fucked

[pine onyx]

Is it insane to say that my favourite inf fights are providence and polter?

[pseudo vector]

i could see provi

[rich crystal]

If Old Duke was actually important to fight I’d actually get it

Actually I take back DoG being my least favorite fight

[pseudo vector]

polter is aight but i never felt very strongly for it

[rich crystal]

It’s ceaceless void

I hate it so much

With my whole soul

[steep path]

What are the plans with old duke again I forgot - still getting replaced eventually? or is he gonna hang around for the foreseeable future

[pseudo vector]

he's gonna get replaced eventually yes

[rich crystal]

I’d rather fight 100 DoGs instead of ceaceless void

[pine onyx]

be shit for all eternity

or not

[pseudo vector]

no more old fish

[steep path]

Ic

[pine onyx]

replaced by ???

[rich crystal]

Ceaceless void deserves death and deletion and destruction

It’s the worst fight

Ever

[steep path]

Keeping him in gfb would be fun though

[dusk bronze]

polter is so piss easy i accidentally nohit it on death mode 😭

[pine onyx]

infernum fights

Vanilla calamity polter is plantera

2

rework polter next pwease

[dusk bronze]

right

[pine onyx]

Infernum eater of worlds OH MY GOD

why

[rich crystal]

I think there’s a bunch of bosses that deserve a rework and absolutely need it

[pine onyx]

WHYYY

[summer shore]

Unlike most other area denial attacks that are just "stand in this spot", inf yharon forces you to bait the attacks into giving you as much space as possible and I think that's insanely fun because it takes brains to do

[radiant flower]

difficulties are getting changed next update? so its just death and revengance and classic now?

[pine onyx]

I'd say most bosses do

[rich crystal]

I thought that’s all it was before?

[amber egret]

Not remaking New Stuff but instead just Adding More Shit.
This will Fix All Of It

[radiant flower]

thank you

[dusk bronze]

classic
expert > revengeance
master > death
legendary > malice

[pseudo vector]

we're very aware of a bunch of bosses needing reworks, we'll get around to them eventually but it will take time

[rich crystal]

Wait so they’re adding malice back?

[dusk bronze]

basically each vanilla difficulty has a calamity difficulty

[pine onyx]

This is a very bad direction for the mod to go in tbf

[pseudo vector]

we have a long road ahead

[dusk bronze]

in name only

[pine onyx]

Calamity is hella unpolished as it is, ESPECIALLY the bosses

[radiant flower]

good change, some bosses become really weird once you do stuff like master + rev or expert + death

[fallen olive]

fr....

[steep path]

Malice has effectively been back since gfb right or am I crazy

[rich crystal]

Hey as long as terraria keeps getting updated so will calamity fr fr 🔥

[pseudo vector]

hi big e my goat

[dusk bronze]

hi john boc

[fallen olive]

(realistically pretty much every boss at minimum needs to be rewritten code-wise)

[pseudo vector]

john brain of cthulhu has arrived

[pine onyx]

Yharim coming in 2089

[fallen olive]

brian storm

[dusk bronze]

😨

[spice geode]

w change

[summer shore]

Yeah you could boil it down to dashslop but it still has layers to it that make it much more interesting

[rich crystal]

Realistically when do yall think yoy guys will stop updating

[wicked halo]

After Yharim or after Xeroc and Noxus.

[pseudo vector]

when yharim is added and we think the mod is done

[rich crystal]

Like in years I mean

[pseudo vector]

xeroc and noxus are completely optional things for us

[rich crystal]

2035

[pseudo vector]

no clue honestly

[dusk bronze]

impossible to tell

[pine onyx]

I literally despise this fight, his dashes have a horrendous hitbox and the zoning is too oppressive for what it is

[unique warren]

And I assume further updates for if terraria somehow is still updating by then

[pine onyx]

let the community do it fr

[fallen olive]

in the year 2100, calamity will finally be complete, and we can move on to our true ambition: Calamity 2

[dusk bronze]

pay lucille to make noxus

[pseudo vector]

avatar of emptiness:

[summer shore]

His flame breath dash sucks true but I've never had issues with his other dashes
Maybe fire trail dash too but that's it

[pine onyx]

TERRARIA: CLAMITY

[amber egret]

End of Calamity update

[vocal kelp]

in the year 2101 calamity 2 is cancelled in favor of the dev team moving to a new project called starbound 2

[summer shore]

Also again the zoning being oppressive is exactly why I love it

[fallen olive]

😭

[amber egret]

Adds the Thank You painting in statue form

[pine onyx]

That attack never hit me once, og yharon had somewhat interesting zoning but they made him dashslop 2

[pseudo vector]

after brainstorm tho we want to move to smaller, more focussed updates than fucking monolithic updates like brainstorm n shit

[unique warren]

That makes sense

[pseudo vector]

so we can release more than one update a year

[dusk bronze]

merge sso parts 1 and 2

[exotic axle]

Calamity too

[pine onyx]

Yes but it's actually coming out so that's good

[dusk bronze]

fuck it acid rain too

super sea overhaul

[summer shore]

og yharon requires you to keep track of 15 different fireballs going different trajectories and also his dashes

[wicked halo]

This is good.

[summer shore]

It's fucked up

[pine onyx]

Fabsol being gone seems to benefit this mod so much omds

[pine onyx]

All of his projectiles have visible patterns

[deft lily]

[pine onyx]

they aren't hard at all to avoid

if you learn the boss ofc

[wicked halo]

Hopefully it will reduce the possibility of development hell like with the SSO update.

[dusk bronze]

guys stop talking about infernum my jokes are getting buried >:(

[summer shore]

The patterns his fireballs have are super unintuitive for me that's why I never liked them

[pseudo vector]

i see brainstorm as the beginning of a new era for calamity

[unique warren]

It very very clearly is, yeah, I think that's smth that is hard to argue

[craggy wagon]

im not a mod dev, but i do feel like SSO tried to do far too much. (at least too much in one shot) im glad the dev team is gonna be focusing on smaller updates going forward, maybe culminating in a big thing when all together

[deft lily]

?

[summer shore]

They're built like fuckin optical illusions and they always fuck me up

[pine onyx]

Also exo mechs feel extremely underwhelming they should get a rework

[unique warren]

They will

[pine onyx]

yay

[fallen olive]

sso was pretty chopped,,, yea

[pseudo vector]

the exos are very high on our priority list

[unique warren]

Even the devs aren't satisfied with em from what I've heard

[pine onyx]

What was SSO

[spice geode]

Research says calamity devs yearn for development hell

[summer shore]

And their easiest solution is literally just find the perfect spot to sit in for all of the fireballs to zip past you which is boring as hell imo

[wicked halo]

Exo Mechs to me is.

[pseudo vector]

the sunken sea overhaul

[wicked halo]

Weird.

They probably do need a rework yeah.

[craggy wagon]

but im excited to see where calamity goes in the new era! even if sunken sea takes another year or two i LOVE watching it cook

[fallen olive]

exos are very cooked yea

[pine onyx]

Finding such spot is hella fun, and usually the projectiles will keep you moving

[fallen olive]

(tho you could say this for a lot of the boss roster 😭)

[pseudo vector]

exos are mega chopped its not even funny bruh

[amber egret]

theres Three Exos to my knowledge

theres Chopped

theres Lightshow

[pine onyx]

plus yharon's dashes are ACTUALLY telegraphed YK and pressure you

[unique warren]

Exo Mechs true melee

[amber egret]

and theres Intriguing

[exotic axle]

Do you have anything in mind perchance

[wicked halo]

Artemis and Apollo are annoying. Ares is funky to dodge and Thanatos is.

[pine onyx]

for real though

[wicked halo]

Harmless.

[fallen olive]

but exos are prolly near the top of the chopped list

[rich crystal]

Terraria is still wanting to add cross play so there’s gonna be updates for a while

[twin juniper]

Ares melee attacks when

[pine onyx]

Old ass

[amber egret]

the Exos gotta do more Collaborative Work

[fallen olive]

we have concepts of a plan 🙂‍↕️

[unique warren]

What would the bottom be

[amber egret]

insteada just Attacking With Eachother

[pine onyx]

Leviathan and anahita being a good fight was a miracle holy

[wicked halo]

Thanatos is so genuinely so easy.

[pseudo vector]

dog and brain lmao

[dusk bronze]

scal and providence

[exotic axle]

Oh yeah baybe

[amber egret]

i Need to see Ares Tazing Thanatos

[fallen olive]

prolly scal if we ignore BS reworks

[wicked halo]

Yeah that would be really cool.

[pine onyx]

calclone rework when

[craggy wagon]

boy do i have a mod for you

[pine onyx]

and redesign

[pseudo vector]

dude i mentioned yesterday that when i fought exos again last year i legit was like "this is the shit that i've been making a song for this whole fucking time?"

[rich crystal]

I think they should just rework all the bosses lol except the good ones

[amber egret]

is it Wrath and/or is it Infernum

[exotic axle]

😭

[amber egret]

bc Neither do that

[dusk bronze]

what if ares grabs thanatos and starts swinging it at you

[pine onyx]

Don't worry infernum exos are a thing

[radiant flower]

meh, cal clone prolly just needs a resprite to represent actually being a cal clone

[amber egret]

Correct!

[fallen olive]

the song everyone is waiting on you for is for a slop boss 😭

[radiant flower]

but it'll be an end of an era when neither of the cals are eyes anymore

[craggy wagon]

ares has an attack where he supercharges Thanatos/Hades in WotM doesn't he?

[pine onyx]

And eternity mode exos but those are wayyy over the top

[pseudo vector]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bombaysoftwares-movie-hollywood-oppenheimer-6oMhPwjvQc6LAEpEuq

this is how i felt

like legit

[fallen olive]

i'd crash out

[pine onyx]

makes sense if you're not very motivated

[amber egret]

no Hades just Geeks out and Ares shoots high KB blasters to slam you into them

Ares does not Ubercharge Thanatos

[dusk bronze]

who da fuck is hades

[amber egret]

Thanatos

[pseudo vector]

wrath of the machines thanatos

[dusk bronze]

wack

[deft lily]

wotm renamed thanatos to hades for some reason

[pine onyx]

Astral biome n bosses reworks when

[deft lily]

idk

[craggy wagon]

did that attack get cut? I remember seeing an attack where Ares zaps Hades and he starts moving really fast

[pseudo vector]

hades lowkey goes hard as fuck as a name tho

[distant raft]

"don't worry slightly less poor design but in the complete opposite direction is a thing"

[amber egret]

i Know these attacks bc i Just fought Them

[dusk bronze]

you have alerted the tofu

[amber egret]

and they were like.

Easy.

[fallen olive]

ooohhhh tooooofuuuu!

[distant raft]

no its very much ingame

[fallen olive]

🔔

[rich crystal]

I think we need more worm bosses

[deft lily]

worm Wednesday incoming ‼️

[pine onyx]

I genuinely like them what

[unique warren]

It was a pre-release Thanatos name right?

[distant raft]

ares uses the inf plasma cannon graphics for its arms

[unique warren]

And later used for Souls DLC/WotM

[exotic axle]

Hades and Thanatos were the two options for the names I think, main went with Thanatos but Lucille liked Hades so

[pine onyx]

The combinations are fun to fight

[rich crystal]

For April fools you guys should make every boss a worm boss

[pseudo vector]

i no rember

[amber egret]

instead of Thanatos which is Not a major Pantheonic God, its Hades

[distant raft]

hades is better than thanatos as a name i think

[twin juniper]

I think it’s because thanatos isn’t in the same category as ares and other guys in the mythology or something

[craggy wagon]

both sound equally cool but i think Thanatos is soured due to the boss its attached to being crap

[dusk bronze]

a bit too similar to ares imo

[radiant flower]

such a fire name for worm boss number 12

[amber egret]

blame the Greeks

[pine onyx]

CALAMITY: WORM BOSS UPDATE

added 65 more worm bosses

enjoy

[amber egret]

they really liked the -es suffix

[radiant flower]

i mean alot of the worm bosses got fire names

[urban cloak]

@ fluffy

[exotic axle]

Mm why not Hephaestus like 🙄

[radiant flower]

astrum deus, dog

[distant raft]

Perforator (Small)

[fathom girder]

nah dmode destroyer is the best thing ever

[amber egret]

Draedon being called Hephaestus would be, while incredibly boring, also Funny As Fuck

[vivid hemlock]

🔥 🔥

[pine onyx]

the bosses r COOKED

[rain arrow]

Should be Thanatos because it’s the longer name and worms are long.

[pine onyx]

fabslop

[dusk bronze]

[pine onyx]

Thanatos sounds tuffer

[exotic axle]

Fluffy where are you I left wormlamity did like anything happen since

[fallen olive]

fabsol really dared to ask the question: what if we made cultist into a post-game worm boss

inovative concepts here

[dusk bronze]

lmao

[urban cloak]

DUDE

[pine onyx]

lmfao primo wyrm

[urban cloak]

what the fuck do we do with primordial wyrm

[pine onyx]

also when primo wyrm rework

[urban cloak]

genuinely

[fathom girder]

yeah but it's unique because it punishes you for using wand of discord

[fallen olive]

ANYTHING ELSE

[pine onyx]

Yes, WHIPS

[rain arrow]

Make him friend again.

[fallen olive]

ik tri wants to move it to yharon tier

[radiant flower]

infernum does a neat thing to where it makes it a requirement if you wanna do boss rush

[unique warren]

I think the "optional boss balanced for after Yharon" is a good concept on its own

[fathom girder]

oh that would be cool

[dusk bronze]

i think leaning more into the telekinesis might be neat

[pine onyx]

And the boss is actually good yk

[unique warren]

That would be fine too ngl

[fathom girder]

infernum primo wyrm isn't very good

lol

[amber egret]

prio wyrm should drag you outta the abyss with a Lot Of Pain i think

[deft lily]

debatable

[fathom girder]

you can stand still at it for half the fight

[exotic axle]

It would be so cool for it to be more like an environmental hazard, kinda DG coded but more stalkerish waiting for the right moment to strike

[urban cloak]

idk if to keep it as a boss fight or turn it back into a dungeon guardian-esque enemie icl

[exotic axle]

Something like that

[amber egret]

like just slam you layer by later and make your Head Explode

[fallen olive]

it being a post game boss is very bizarre

[radiant flower]

im not fully caught up on eidolon wyrm lore but judging by the name these things are close to offshoots of the primordial dragons like yharon? speaking from my ass rn

[dusk bronze]

that's the plan afaik

[unique warren]

Optional boss that give good reward is a good base concept for Pri and should stay as that

[fathom girder]

por que no los dos

Skeletron is both

[pseudo vector]

primordial wyrm is something i would not be opposed to turning into a full on boss

[pine onyx]

Isn't that just, in one specific spot using draedon's chair during one specific attack?

[unique warren]

Honestly that's where it's heading

[deft lily]

rn its kind of just a joke boss tbh

[fallen olive]

like yeah scal, the exo mechs heck yharim? all weaker than this deep sea worm

[urban cloak]

primoridal wyrm now instakills you if you leave abyss layer 4

[amber egret]

i think the only issue that stems from it is that you Require Abyssal Diving Gear

[rain arrow]

Primordial Wyrm is friend.

[fathom girder]

peak?????????????

[unique warren]

Honestly, making it some ancient god would be cool idfk

[dusk bronze]

that would be fine if the breath meter actually lasted the whole fight

[fathom girder]

It doesn't need draedon chair, but yes it's only one attack lul

I'm being pedantic

However the rest of his kit isn't very impressive either

[dusk bronze]

it's blessed by a god so close enough

[fathom girder]

the spiral isn't threatening, you can circle strafe most of his other attacks

[pine onyx]

He's hella easy for that point of the game

[unique warren]

What god is it again? I forgor

[dusk bronze]

silva

[rich crystal]

Devs do you guys like making the most annoying bosses? Just wondering if that’s a thing people like doing, making a boss everyone hates fr for the ragebait

[unique warren]

Hmmm I wouldn't mind that being changed ngl

[dusk bronze]

it was literally just fabsol

[grim pecan]

either post DoG or post yharon are generally what we're thinking, i personally prefer post-DoG but that's just me

[rain arrow]

That’s fargos souls.

[craggy wagon]

would Primordial Wyrm have more plant-based attacks considering its a creation of Silva

[fathom girder]

Post DoG seems a tad silly imo

[dusk bronze]

he made every single boss except hive mind and some of scal entirely by himself

[unique warren]

What is bro on about?

[rich crystal]

I’m not saying they did that persay, but I was wondering if they liked rage baiting their players

[fathom girder]

but ig post dog only goes directly to yharon, doesn't it

[pine onyx]

Yharon rework

[pine onyx]

Events

[fathom girder]

so having a choice after DoG would be cool

[pine onyx]

but yeah no bosses in between

[rain arrow]

Fargos souls has the evilest goddamn bosses known to man.

[pale silo]

Nah that's the Fargo's maso way

[pine onyx]

also the shards being obtained from, fucking, stat inflated events sucks ass

rework that shi pwease

[unique warren]

Noooo nooo I have to engage with bosses nooooooo

[distant raft]

portal mech:

[summer shore]

Make wyrm post yharon and add abyss tier 5

[rain arrow]

Huh, funny that Hivemind is my favorite boss.

[unique warren]

I reiterate my point here as well

[radiant flower]

it'd be a neat concept to turn eidolon wyrm into a choice like how you choose between exo mechs or scal but its very hard to be beside DoG and not be immediately overshadowed

[rich crystal]

See I would love to do that personally, making a mod purely to be hated by mankind

[dusk bronze]

[fathom girder]

abyss tier five that breaks into the underworld and it's just lava

[unique warren]

Who is made by Terry, who made the souls mod

[rich crystal]

If I ever get into developing I’m doing that

[pale silo]

Cal is aiming to be actual fair difficulty based on more reaction based stuffs. Fab was...not a fan of that ideology

[lyric trellis]

Abyss subworld

[unique warren]

Well, made the bosses for it.

[summer shore]

Wrong, abyss but you go left/right

[rich crystal]

Yeaa, but thankfully they’re fixing the mod right now, peak devs ❤️

[summer shore]

Into the worm tunnels

[rich crystal]

I’d say it’s good enough to be its own game right now

[grim pecan]

beating yharon turns the entire world into the abyss. the only way to cleanse it is beating wyrm

[rich crystal]

It basically is

[grim pecan]

good luck

[rain arrow]

More specifically Fargo’s endgame bosses are the evilest things known to man. They just pull out tons of absolute bullshit.

[deft lily]

[craggy wagon]

Avatar of Wyrm

[fathom girder]

peak after peak

[flat folio]

Abyss secret seed where you spawn on a tiny sulph sea island in the world center and you're surrounded by near-bottomless ocean

[unique warren]

They're actually super fair but alright

[urban cloak]

subnautica seed...

[rain arrow]

One of them can freeze you in time.

[rich crystal]

Especially on masochist, I can handle the normal eternity mode

[deft lily]

so true

[rich crystal]

But masochist oh Jesus help me please

[unique warren]

Yeah, and then they let you move to dodge the attack!

[rich crystal]

It’s not a hard attack it’s actually so cool

[grim pecan]

you have to collect resources that skyfins are carrying or crates that float towards your island

[lyric trellis]

Avatar of the Sea

[rich crystal]

Better than a boss that starts with ceaseless and ends with Void

[summer shore]

Raft in calamitymod

[fathom girder]

I don't like fargos bosses I'm sorry

If I wanna play touhou I'll play fucken touhou

[distant raft]

no all combos are perfectly dodgable

[rich crystal]

I’d rather play masochist mode 1 hp then fight Ceaseless void I’m completely serious

[rain arrow]

Fargos has creative as hell bosses, they just look to be torture to fight.

[grim pecan]

fargo's souls is my goat, i love that mod

[summer shore]

Fargo is not touhou this is a statement dreamed up by non touhou players

[grim pecan]

the bosses are so damn fun

[flat folio]

Fargo DLC Old Duke...

[rich crystal]

I wish old Duke wasn’t such a forgettable boss

[deft lily]

ive never played fargos but ive thought aboht it.

[rich crystal]

I wish it was relevant

[fathom girder]

you got right on calling me out damn

[unique warren]

It's kind of the gold standard for me. Cal is great but it's just not consistently good right now.

[fathom girder]

I concede

[rich crystal]

I think you should

Its a really good mod

[summer shore]

I will always make fun of people who use touhou as a buzzword

[obtuse hawk]

fargo is fine in endgame you just have to have a lot of layers of focus and mental preparation

[grim pecan]

we've changed brain so it doesn't constantly microadjust toward you in brainstorm. should make it a lot better

[deft lily]

There are so many cool mods I wanna play but I just dont have the time 💀

[rain arrow]

I do respect Fargos for giving you access to every bullshit gimmick a boss uses against you once you beat said boss.

[grim pecan]

not brain

void

fuck

[unique warren]

Fargo's Souls is just very streamlined and is gonna be even moreso in 2.0, it's crazy.

[fathom girder]

Fabsol AI got to your brain

[summer shore]

I haven't even played it I literally just saw one video on yt and it's nothing like what people keep attributing to it

[rich crystal]

It’s a little grindy but like once you get past moonlord it’s basically just boss rush

[unique warren]

Bullshit gimmick, like what lol

[distant raft]

fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[lyric trellis]

CV is back to the BoC allegations

[grim pecan]

i hate you

[fathom girder]

lmaoooo

[flat folio]

Can I have a genie so I can ask them to make using the word "bullshit" in the context of video game design discourse a thing of the past

[rich crystal]

Thank you ❤️ I love you devs, but my suggestion is get rid of ceaceless void fr

But I may be biased

Or the opposite word of biased

Either way

Freak ceaceless void

[summer shore]

Normalize using bullshit for funny confusing situations instead of game discussions

[deft lily]

if only

[radiant flower]

is there something wrong with the ceaseless void fight? i think its fine, a little hard and cant be brute forced because of forced invul phases but i think its fine

[tropic jolt]

this is BrainStorm...

[rich crystal]

It’s just the worst fight to exist

[distant raft]

people think the boss sucks because they can't run away in one direction and win

[unique warren]

People don't like to engage with bosses is the thing

[distant raft]

also ceaseless only goes invulnerable once

during its short desp

[high lion]

Okay so the sunken sea stuff is later, not with brainstorm update?

[radiant flower]

i mean, im not a very good player...ceaseless took me like 30 attempts in my expert-deathj world because im allergic to dodging

[rich crystal]

I don’t know for some reason I just hate it

[dusk bronze]

people don't like to engage with the game

[rich crystal]

I always have

[distant raft]

you can attack it during suck and make progress during dark energies

[radiant flower]

but i like bosses that make me actually think Gladge

[deft lily]

genius idea: remove every fight that sucks. boom. Problem solved.

💥

[dusk bronze]

[grim pecan]

bye calamity mod

[tropic jolt]

terraria deleted

[deft lily]

the good ending

[flat folio]

Calamity removes all its bosses and becomes a builder mod with all sorts of fun furniture and tiles

[rich crystal]

I guess we’re keeping just Eater of worlds ❤️

[pale silo]

very interactive gameplay wdym

[rich crystal]

Jk I don’t like that boss much

[high lion]

Sunken sea stuff ISN’T this update, right?

[unique warren]

Ya

[pale silo]

i had to click 2 buttons

[radiant flower]

lol fuck that boss

[rich crystal]

Yea I know lol I was kidding 😭

[deft lily]

real

[rain arrow]

Hive mind is great! Tons of fun.

[summer shore]

Draedon centered factorio mod

[pseudo vector]

it isn’t in this update, no

[summer shore]

Do you see the vision

[radiant flower]

early hardmode progression is so hard for me bruh it takes me like 20 attempts for eow then 50 for hive mind ☠️

[grim pecan]

people dislike the boss because it's designed as something that needs pinpoint dodging, but it constantly microadjusts towards and around you. this means that you pinpoint dodging is constantly messed up when every projectile shifts towards you

[rich crystal]

Can you guys add blueprints for builds please ❤️

[tropic jolt]

the qol meatgrinder has purified calamity down to its purest form!

[rain arrow]

So it cheats.

[rich crystal]

I think that’s a big reason I hate the boss

[unique warren]

no?

[rich crystal]

I may like it more in the update

[flat folio]

The year is 2024
QoL mods have removed the need for town NPCs, Arena Building, Regular Enemies, and Grinding. 16 distinct difficulty options exist to be combined as desired.
All worlds are generated with chests that give everything to you, and have innumerable world-sized platforms
The game has been optimized away. Now we may relish in the infinite bliss that is uninterrupted boss rush playthroughs

[high lion]

Next update then, I’m guessing

[deft lily]

only way to kill cv: hawking radiation.

[radiant flower]

ah, yeah that makes sense. it is very awkward to dodge when the boss is fucking up your movement that you're used to for most of the playthrough. plus brimrose isnt particularly precise

[pseudo vector]

actual hellscape

[flat folio]

This copypasted was invented in 2021

[exotic axle]

We’re two years past that that’s crazy

[fallen olive]

😨

[dusk bronze]

😭

[grim pecan]

it should hopefully be better in brainstorm. i don't think the issue is entirely fixed, but it should be better

[unique warren]

I think a very big reason that some people hate Souls Mod bosses and the like are just that people don't want to think about or analyze a boss

[lyric trellis]

Good ending, the real Calamity is finding the right paint and block combination to use for the design you want

[radiant flower]

oh CV is getting tweaked in brainstorm too? neat

[tropic jolt]

the strongest qol mod is watching a playthrough on youtube and pretending you are an expert on the bosses

[pseudo vector]

somehow we need to bring terraria to feeling like terraria again lol

[rich crystal]

I’ll let yall know fr cause im ceaceless void #1 hater

I’d rather die then fight it

[pale silo]

ik a lot of the qol is being yeeted, like the ankh recipes and RoD buying

[rain arrow]

Counterpoint, having to build plantera arena is why I never beat the vanilla game on my own.

[unique warren]

A good, difficult boss is one you gotta kinda think about and engage with

[pale silo]

(also ankh being yeeted from valor finally)

[rich crystal]

I usually just skip ceaceless void at this point

[pale silo]

dynamite

[rich crystal]

Go straight to poltergeist

[exotic axle]

We love you too ❤️

[distant raft]

your wish is my command

[pale silo]

i built one that allowed me to no hit master plant in literally 5 mins

[unique warren]

I like scal :(

[summer shore]

Fabsol is dead
Devs have fuel
Reworks full

[pale silo]

pbg is fun

[summer shore]

2026

[distant raft]

scal unfortunately sucks because she's more retinazer than retinazer

[rich crystal]

No way you’re saying those are the only good bosses 💔 I can agree with maybe providence

[deft lily]

explode

[unique warren]

Scal is really fun for me

[pseudo vector]

the only reason i ever worked towards ankh shield was to craft asgard’s valor so its removal from the recipe feels largely inconsequential to me

[unique warren]

Like I get it but it's on par with prov at worst

[tropic jolt]

this is true

[rain arrow]

Immediate execution.

[rich crystal]

Is it bad that I just use that one mod that adds an NPC for accessories lol

[pale silo]

valor gets the nerf it needs plus less work on crafting it. win win

[fierce nebula]

Crazy ragebait

[distant raft]

duality of man

[tropic jolt]

I am a calamity player and I HATE CALAMITY!!!

[rich crystal]

I freaking hate grinding in this game

[fierce nebula]

Putting ceaseless there

[unique warren]

It's actually not even that crazy of a take I won't lie to you

[rich crystal]

Reminds me of the pokemon community, they play but they hate every game they buy

[fierce nebula]

No most of the community hates ceaseless

[fathom girder]

Legitimately most of vanilla terraria is building farms or spending time building cool houses because going full boss rush is boring

[distant raft]

ceaseless is the best boss in basecal because you have to actually play the game instead of running away

[rich crystal]

Thank goodness

[fathom girder]

and too fast

[unique warren]

Hot take sure, but not crazy.

[tropic jolt]

this happens to every game when people start putting in hundreds of hours 😔

[radiant flower]

yeah lol thats just every game with decent engagement

[fierce nebula]

That’s what makes it ragebait

[unique warren]

I can see your reasoning but I like scal a lot too, she should be there.

[deft lily]

^

[rain arrow]

As a ranger main, you have attacked my entire culture with this statement.

[pale silo]

pbg is also very fun

[bleak vault]

Will brain of cthulhu fight become better than Infernum one?

[unique warren]

Is it though

Is it really

[pale silo]

yeah

[tropic jolt]

eventually you see all the games flaws when you play long enough

[rich crystal]

It’s like really bad in pokemon though I’m serious 😭 they hate on a game just to buy it and play hundreds of hours and then 10 years later say the game was hated too much

[pale silo]

unironically imo the most skill based fight

[radiant flower]

yeah id say pbg is fun, very fitting that its a chaotic fight with chaotic music

[grim pecan]

this is the future cal players want

[pale silo]

especially in hm

[tropic jolt]

this is definitely scarlet & violent

[deft lily]

true?

[distant raft]

finally! a good mod!

[pale silo]

nah dragon folly needs to be only one there

[rich crystal]

They should rework every boss to be Ravager

That’s all we need

[flat folio]

tML's community is so lost in the sauce
Like genuinely. The constant latent negativity is palpable

Not that I'm free of or above it. If anything I'm even more rotted than the average person in that regard

[deft lily]

golem clones everywhere

[radiant flower]

just replace every boss with ravager's right foot

[pseudo vector]

when i started actually caring about building in terraria my enjoyment of the game increased exponentially

[unique warren]

I would say scal and prov need changes the least, persnally

[rain arrow]

Only have Yharon for the soundtrack.

[radiant flower]

holy cow unrelated but do not fight golem with remnants mod enabled

[unique warren]

Scal is just fun and relatively engaging IMHO

[rich crystal]

I want to learn to build so badly but I suck booty at building

[deft lily]

yeah 😔

[pseudo vector]

like having a nice base to come back home to is such a gratifying feeling

[distant raft]

yeah the arena is fucked up and he enrages in modded difficulties

[dusk bronze]

can i just say i don't see signus getting shit on nearly enough

[fathom girder]

Right??? I think with calamity adding more building stuff, it's gonna be a lot closer to vanilla in vibes when brainstorm releases

[rich crystal]

I really need to stop using insta houses

[fathom girder]

more things to just. go out and build with

[dusk bronze]

biggest waste of potential in the mod

[distant raft]

he has to be force unenraged on maso because its otherwise impossible to beat him

[tropic jolt]

the sentiment towards mods and the game in general starts to feel real depressing the more I interact with the community 😅

[deft lily]

I dont like any of the sentinels tbh

[grave rock]

Building and obtaining cute items is the best part of the game by a long shot IMO

[radiant flower]

its mostly the arena, cal golem is already relatively difficult to dodge but now you're working with like 1/8 the space

very unfun

[dusk bronze]

ok but it's 2026 and he still looks like That 😭

[deft lily]

Yeah ik what u mean

[pseudo vector]

no like on god

[radiant flower]

i dont even know what signus does, does he just charge at you really fast or smthng

[lyric trellis]

He’s old and terrible but also free so nobody cares ig

[summer shore]

I approach builds as creative projects more than gameplay

[grave rock]

I hope Calamity adds more stuff like the Marnite Architect armor set
Irs absolutely delightful

[fathom girder]

I think it also would help for more post ML enemies to have rare accessory or item drops

[unique warren]

I don't think there are any mods that I don't actively want to become better, and it's good to see what are imo two of the biggest (Souls and Cal, even if Cal is way bigger) are doing just that

[distant raft]

isnt signus still like old levi-era spritework

[dusk bronze]

true!

[deft lily]

it sucks yeah

[fathom girder]

cuz in vanilla, when hardmode starts

it's an immediate "alright go farm the enemies so you can build for your class"

[lyric trellis]

Post-ml Ankh

[rich crystal]

This is what happens when I get ahold of insta builds 💔

[summer shore]

Like when I'm playing through the game I don't really care about having an ugly base, but if I have an idea for a base I'd build ot

[grave rock]

I think the "utility" armor sets are a step in the right direction

[fathom girder]

post ML ankh would go hard tbh

[rich crystal]

It’s genuinely bad

[deft lily]

the horror

[grave rock]

The spoilered Victide Utility helm that summons a lil guy to fish with u ❤️

[tropic jolt]

[pseudo vector]

any time i look into more public areas of the tmod community like yt or reddit its just negativity that’s genuinely palpable in the air

[grim pecan]

i need people to have an interest in thorium again it's so good and the spoilers they've been putting out are so fucking good

[grave rock]

The Sunken Sea in general seems lime it's gonna be a lovely hiome to mess around in

[deft lily]

fucking true...
Sad but true

[grim pecan]

i will glaze thorium until the day i die i fucking love that mod

[fathom girder]

brainstorm is taking up all the attention rn sorry

[obtuse hawk]

odious air don't breathe it

[flat folio]

$10 word in the wild!

[twin juniper]

Are they updating

[obtuse hawk]

those who brimstone

[rich crystal]

It’s actually a problem I need help 💔 it’s too much of a convenience and I can’t play vanilla cause I don’t have them

[unique warren]

Thorium is pretty cool, I do need to get back into it. AA remake is also smth I have my eye on.

[grave rock]

Thorium Thrower rework hype !!

[rich crystal]

It’s an addiction

[distant raft]

itll be fun to see thorium with a modern level of polish

[grim pecan]

last i've seen, they're working on an overhaul to thrower and borean strider

it looks fantastic

[fathom girder]

is thrower technically a unique modded class now

[pseudo vector]

i do want to see if we can somehow make terraria feel more like terraria again in calamity, even though calamity is so boss centric

[obtuse hawk]

always thought borean strider was cool but underutilized (???, idk if that's the right word)

[grave rock]

Playing modded is so fun

:D

[obtuse hawk]

true

[grave rock]

Strider is just kind of a nothingburger of a boss currently

[tropic jolt]

sentenced to vanilla master mode playthrough where you spawn in the jungle

[dusk bronze]

[deft lily]

I think BS is the step into the right direction for this

[rich crystal]

You know how Terraria has a bunch of goofy stuff in it? I think maybe some more goofy stuff would help

[tropic jolt]

pretend that I have a gavel to hit the table with

[deft lily]

and I think sso will be as well

[twin juniper]

shoutout to geode armor set
Best thing ever
made me tear up when I saw it for the first time

[unique warren]

I think like, two or three Hardmode bosses may need to be put into pre-Hardmode, without even doing a tier swap.

[pseudo vector]

i think the boss rush sort of culture in tmod has poisoned the mod sphere and made people forget what terraria actually is as a game

[summer shore]

Absolutely not

[dusk bronze]

yeah prehardmode is kinda sad rn

[deft lily]

truth nuke

[grave rock]

I like Cal prehardmode

[fathom girder]

ooh, another thing I've noticed
A lot of the events and post ML content from calamity involve farming a lot of enemies mindlessly, as they all drop a crafting material to make whatever you want.
This kinda contrasts with vanilla events, where there are specific enemies that drop the items directly

[grave rock]

People forget Terraria is a good videogame

[summer shore]

That will just turn prehardmode (the ONLY stage focused around exploration) into more of a boss rush

[unique warren]

Yeah like, terraria bosses are so extremely not the focus in vanilla at ALL

[rich crystal]

I do think calamity does pick up more and gets more enjoyable post mechs if that makes sense you know?

[fathom girder]

I'm not sure if this would contribute but it does make events feel more unique

[unique warren]

It would make pre-hm and hm more balanced in terms of bosses

[pseudo vector]

its funny i say that even though i’ve been working on the music for the boss rush event in calamity

[fallen olive]

Once I add building quests the mod will be peak trust

[summer shore]

Yes but it massively takes away from ahy people love pre hm
Because it's Not a boss rush

[rich crystal]

I think that would give people more of an incentive to build you know

[tropic jolt]

turns out calamity being the boss rush mod is literal

[grim pecan]

we're tightening npc restrictions on what they consider a house. it now has to be fully furnihsed and use a block palette

[fathom girder]

always was

[unique warren]

Okay then what do you do about Hardmode

[grim pecan]

if you build a wooden box they revolt and leave

[summer shore]

Make the exploration better

[radiant flower]

cooked, my prisons dont work no more

[unique warren]

Alright ig?

[summer shore]

You have the astral and the abyss in hardmode, hell even the sunken sea and the crags in the future

[rich crystal]

In vanilla also there’s not Magic storage if that makes sense, so people have to build actual sorting systems you know? Instead of it all being in one chest, so in calamity and modded in general, people are more likely to just build wooden boxes since you don’t really need crafting stations, and chests

That’s a big thing for me

[unique warren]

I feel like a more even boss distribution is needed but ok

[rich crystal]

Cause magic storage I just put in everything and don’t worry about sorting

[radiant flower]

well not anymore since u can craft from chests kekw

[fathom girder]

Sunken sea relevancy in hardmode and the astral biome getting an update will help a lot with that, when they eventually get their updates

[radiant flower]

very nice change, actually

[dusk bronze]

hardmode exploration could be good, even in vanilla, if the evil biomes were fundamentally overhauled

[grave rock]

I actually think hardmode has a little too many bosses

[rich crystal]

Either way you still have to get chests, but for calamity you can just put everything in one thing and craft all from that

[grave rock]

The ancient modded dilemma
Make exploration relevant after preHM

[pseudo vector]

post moon lord is the most egregious when it comes to feeling like a boss rush

[radiant flower]

i dont play vanilla but i would imagine if you were lazy you just seperate chests into crafting materials and accessories/weapons/armor/tools

[rain arrow]

Unhappy NPCs kill you in your sleep.

[unique warren]

The only thing planned that will address this is literally just ravager tier shift, nothing else

To my knowledge

[rich crystal]

Which is fair cause there’s nothing post moonlord in vanilla except you know building

[fathom girder]

you're doing it again shush

[pseudo vector]

i wanna do more with post moon lord to make it feel more akin to the rest of the game and flesh it out more outside of bosses

[rich crystal]

I always use happiness remover lol

[unique warren]

Please do correct me if I’m wrong

[urban cloak]

we need more post-ml enemies

[unique warren]

But tier swaps don’t affect that

[dusk bronze]

TRUE

[tropic jolt]

waiter waiter more scorn eaters please

[urban cloak]

need some crazy fucked up beasts to show up after the death of moon lord

[fathom girder]

I think the distortion will help a lot with making post ML feel better

[rich crystal]

For sure, now they just need to make an ultimate crafting station fr

[pseudo vector]

DUDE I’VE BEEN SAYING THIS AND I WANT IT SO BAD

[pale silo]

depends on the "how" but yeah for the most part it doesnt change

[grim pecan]

fry what if we made scorn eater spawn in the abyss

[white aurora]

ngl more post ml dungeon enemies would be neat

[dull schooner]

500.scorn.eaters

[distant raft]

genuinely happy for postml exploration

[white aurora]

and other biomes getting some fucked up creatures

[rain arrow]

The post moon lord world needs to be dangerous again.

[urban cloak]

peak im afraid

[radiant flower]

maybe you could do the rune of kos enemies as invasion events like how old duke spawns after acid rain

[grim pecan]

adding it rn

[fathom girder]

distortion will fix the fundamental flaws that current post-dog events have

[rich crystal]

I don’t agree honestly, I think there’s too many enemies in the dungeon

[unique warren]

That’s nice

[dusk bronze]

throudon storm weaver

please

[fathom girder]

having more post ml enemies in general would be nice to have too

[dusk bronze]

the concept is so good

[fierce nebula]

Replace some then

[dusk bronze]

the vibe

[fathom girder]

but like. what would they be

[grim pecan]

ok i have to get up and do stuff. have a good morning CUT

[unique warren]

Yeah like what it’s just the funny profaned dudes and that’s it atm I believe?

[radiant flower]

scorn. eater

[fathom girder]

That's about it yes

[radiant flower]

and the smaller one

[dusk bronze]

them and the pink dungeon spirits

[unique warren]

Yeah the profaned guys

[rain arrow]

Some of the post ML bosses need to try and get the jump on you like EoC and the Mech bosses.

[pseudo vector]

when we get to 1.4.5 i wanna add a post moon lord superstorm event that leads better into storm weaver

[rich crystal]

I honestly think maybe they should change how you get the fragments post DoG, instead of the same events maybe make some new events, it would be better for the game and add new enemies and tiers you know?

[unique warren]

Oh I guess

[dusk bronze]

PLEASE

YES

[rich crystal]

I think we need more events

[dusk bronze]

OMG

[fathom girder]

Slime rain 2 let's go

[noble stirrup]

Like, defeating moonlord causes a sort of 2nd "hardmode" transition?

[tropic jolt]

that update should be called StormStorm

[unique warren]

Storm Weaver is my current least favorite boss I think?

[radiant flower]

oh yeah, isnt signus from the distortion? you can also def add an invasion event for that too

[dusk bronze]

🥹 storm weaver event

[rich crystal]

Or yea maybe add events for those 3 bosses possibly

I think we just need more events

That would help

[urban cloak]

would be nice for it to feel like that

[unique warren]

Like, ever I think?

[pseudo vector]

one thing i’ve wanted in calamity for a while is the post moon lord bosses to properly feel like they have a presence in the world

[summer shore]

Signus and cv do not need events

[dusk bronze]

what if cv starts spewing out distortion entities so you have to go stop it

[urban cloak]

you'd think that killing something like moon lord would cause some kind of stir in the world

[pseudo vector]

like defeating the moon lord woke up even stronger forces that you need to be aware of

[summer shore]

Signus has a questline related to him and cv is just a door

[radiant flower]

cv is def harder to make than the other two

[dusk bronze]

thoughts?

[rain arrow]

Like the pillars?

[dusk bronze]

idk i guess

[fathom girder]

There was a whole ass ritual trying to keep him sealed away or whatever, this absolutely should be the case

[rich crystal]

I do think there should be separate events for the fragments post DoG though it would make it better and more fun, more chances to add more enemies

[summer shore]

Not to mention acid rain T3

[tropic jolt]

personally one thing I really want to see is when and if the evil 2 bosses are retiered it would be cool to see them having an effect on the world post moon lord causing new enemies to appear and such

[dusk bronze]

i think killing them should disable corruption spread bc they're like the main part

and nobody wants to deal with that post moonlord

[idle spindle]

woah!!!!

[rich crystal]

Well that wouldn’t change anything if people just use a mod for no corruption spread

[urban cloak]

maybe but evil biome spread is pretty negligible around that stage of the game

[fathom girder]

It's the thought that counts

[fierce nebula]

Calamity isnt balancing around other mods

[dusk bronze]

calamity shouldn't be balanced around seperate qol mods

[unique warren]

Idk why that should matter lmfao

[rain arrow]

“Help! I’m stuck in a barnacle!”

[rich crystal]

That’s a good point lol but I was just saying

[noble stirrup]

Maybe, depending on where the 2nd evil bosses wind up, their defeat can slow the corruption spread instead of the mechanical bosses being defeated

[fierce nebula]

Less people would use it if calamity stopped spread at some point too

[pseudo vector]

i wrote up some ideas for post-ml evils 2 in the situation we retier them to that point in progression

[dusk bronze]

i feel like biome spread can only be engaging in a game like terraria if the gameplay loop is centered around it

[unique warren]

They’re gonna be dragonfolly tier

Cause they’re swapped with him

[pearl sentinel]

this was the idea behind otherworld yeah

[noble stirrup]

Ah, too late then

[dusk bronze]

and it was gonna be peak

[noble stirrup]

I think I can get behind defeating the 2nd evil just stopping spread entirely, yeah

[idle spindle]

it's literally a floating balloon

i love balloons

🎈

[rich crystal]

I beat dragonfolly pre Cultist one time cause I was doing catalyst mod and I was stuck

[unique warren]

I don’t see why not tbh.