calamity-update-talk

[arctic cliff]

allow dashes to have a dash bind key in vanilla

[amber egret]

hm

why though

its quite rare you need a dash; terraria isnt made around it as heavily as Calamity is

[arctic cliff]

its done in mods, iirc Calamity does it as an OPTION, and it is just way less straining to dash

[versed heart]

Because some people prefer keybinds over double tapping? simple as

[strong isle]

Skyblock seed

[amber egret]

i mean maybe??? my main issue with having it is that you'd have just a useless key on Classic up until

what is it plantera

when do you get the tabi

post plantera

[versed heart]

There's also the Crystal Assasin Armor and ||Preboss Chillet|| mount, too

[amber egret]

oh right that thing exists

i mean the new thing is kinda meant to be hard to use but having it on a keybind would be nice i suppose

[versed heart]

Still, the armor's kinda niche & the mount's rare and may be nerfed

[amber egret]

and Crystal Assassin is trumped by Whatever Ore You Like

same way ninja is. unfortunate

[meager escarp]

😱

[arctic cliff]

every day i pray to Xeroc for him to make Ninja Armor in calamity be a rogue armor set instead of whatever it is now

[amber egret]

its a classless mobility set iirc

[fathom girder]

relegated to useless tier because shadow set exists and does the same thing but better

[amber egret]

wouldnt rogue have like

three sets in the early game

thats a lot of sets

[fathom girder]

yeah but people are like

strangely addicted to rogue despite it being a mid class by design

something something novelty or whatever

[amber egret]

blazing take: rogue should be more Thrower and less Mage

[fathom girder]

frozen take..

[wind niche]

cannot wait for brainstorm, later today!

[amber egret]

BRAINSTORM IN 3 HOURS

[fathom girder]

When rogue is eventually reworked for focus/spam to work more in tandem it'll play like thrower(watered down ranger)

at least I assume so

[amber egret]

watered down ranger

this is so sad

[fathom girder]

That's what thrower was

[amber egret]

i mean yeah

[fathom girder]

watered down ranger

potential man class

[amber egret]

when i say Thrower i mean my Vague Memory of Thoriums

[fathom girder]

ohh yeah okay

(watered down mage)

[amber egret]

okay it cannot be all watered down

[fathom girder]

lmao yeah I'm just shitposting now

[grim pecan]

thorium's doing a thrower rework right now and it looks very promising

can't wait to see what they do

[amber egret]

modded terraria must be TEMPERATE with how watered it is

[fathom girder]

If rogue rework ends up being similar to nuThrower from thorium, it would confirm the crab theory

everything irl turns into crabs

every custom class in modded terraria turns into thrower class

[grim pecan]

crab rogue weapon that sticks to enemies and pinches them....

[fathom girder]

YOU'RE HIRED

....ig you're already a dev

KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING

[amber egret]

crab rogue weapon thats the Sahara Slicers but crab instead of Sword

[barren nacelle]

Us in the Wiki Server are trying our best

Genuinely we’ve been enslaved to find dual dungeons

[amber egret]

can you not rip into the code

[fathom girder]

apparently no

[amber egret]

also also cant you check the world file of a mobile world ported to pc that has the dual dungeon

[pearl sentinel]

Can I turn into a crab too

[grim pecan]

ask vanilla

[amber egret]

i dont go there

[fathom girder]

well go there idk

[amber egret]

what part of "i dont go there" implies i would /kind

[fathom girder]

surpass your limits

take that step into...

uh

1.4.5 idk

[pearl sentinel]

In real life

[grim pecan]

ask vanilla

[fathom girder]

where's vanilla

[main falcon]

Oneday

[amber egret]

next to chocolate and strawberry

[fathom girder]

ah yes... napoleon drive..

[main falcon]

The secret calamity seed that makes both oceans sulfur

Still just 1 abyss tho

[fathom girder]

WAIT

it also turns the underworld into the abyss

and instead of scoria it has hellstone

[main falcon]

The seed also makes all the world chaos sensitive

[fathom girder]

and it also explodes after 24 hours

[main falcon]

But not every place summons the idolon wyrm

Depends on the biome on what boss popsout

[fathom girder]

does it spawn moon lord sometimes

ohh I see

clever

[main falcon]

It's the only way to get leviathan and anahita on this seed

You use the chaos on the sulfur beach that doesn't have the abyss

[grim pecan]

underworld is now abyss, abyss is now underworld. wall is now an underwater (underlava?) boss and vertical. you have to kill it before you reach the surface

[fathom girder]

Vertical wall bosses haven't been explored very much but GOD do I wanna see more of it

There's like. one mod that does it

and it's an eater of worlds rework mod

[main falcon]

It sucks to figth unless you get like infifligth

[fathom girder]

beenade spam saves the day yet again

[main falcon]

Or the boss makes you intangible to everything except like platforms made by it

[fathom girder]

world seed that replaces the underworld with the shimmerworld

[grave geyser]

mod of redemption has one
its just kinda there

[versed heart]

Not really a boss, more like a miniboss

[buoyant pulsar]

cdmusic jumpscare

[polar tide]

who is cdmusic

[versed heart]

idk who cdmusic is

CDMusic, however...

[pulsar crow]

It's the geometry dash guy

[versed heart]

CDMusic also has nothing to do with Calamity mod whatsoever. He definitely hasn't created music for it

[heavy sphinx]

Who is this guy

[olive kernel]

3 months ago

[molten grove]

reminds me of when I was featured in an orespawn drama video and got ~12 pings from calamity subservers about it

[that video's bg is in my pfp]

[woeful yarrow]

If you want to keep your other social media parts of your life secret
Use different names

[molten grove]

true true

[woeful yarrow]

AAA

Can you help me

[molten grove]

maybe

[woeful yarrow]

I'm hopeless and desprete as fuck tbh

[molten grove]

whacha need

[woeful yarrow]

Look i was facing a problem multiple times in about jan 24 and jan26 in the game

In jan 24 it's freezed and then kicked me out and closed the entire app

[molten grove]

prolly a #1052323733961977947 thing

[woeful yarrow]

The same happened in jan26 but with no freez

[dull heart]

I have good news that I will not share :)

[woeful yarrow]

Ok

[dull heart]

Did your headphones unplug

[woeful yarrow]

Different answers
Different servers

[woeful yarrow]

No

How that even related?

[dull heart]

terraria crashes when the default Windows audio device changes

[woeful yarrow]

WTF

Weird actually

I'm gonna put everything in bugs report

Even after i put it in about 2 servers

[hollow harness]

crazy

[fathom girder]

Boc rework is a vertical wall boss

Confirmed

Gg

[dull heart]

not quite

[fathom girder]

I can't imagine DoG will be doing it

Unless you pulled some wacky shit with the new lasers

Ravager walls having collision now is the joke i'm missing i think

[dull heart]

no

You'll see eventually

Maybe

Actually the horizontal walls of ravager would be a good joke there

But that's not what I had in mind

grahh steam moderation reviewing the workshop item sucks

I was unlucky (or it's just bad time being late on Saturday) and roots is still not approved

[hollow harness]

ROOTS, BLOODY ROOTS

[main falcon]

Would calamity have its own take on the npc portraits to make them consistent overall or just try to follow as close as possible to the vanilla ones when making them for the cal npcs

[high scaffold]

Maybe both as theres a toggle

[orchid finch]

Calamity is simply never going to update anymore

No updates - no burden of porting - no portraits - no problem

[flat bear]

i can’t wait for the portraits cuz i wanna see what amidas looks like under a microscope
what’s that freak’s face look like

[high scaffold]

Amidas posting

[orchid finch]

Drop tomorrow is another day

[flat bear]

fish

[high scaffold]

Imagine they drop tmod in february

That would be crazy

[meager escarp]

I cast

calamity update

[high scaffold]

I wonder if the new lighting system will allow to do some funny stuff

[meager escarp]

-talk!!!

[orchid finch]

They won't

[high scaffold]

But did you imagine it?

[meager escarp]

dude can we have true copper shortsword vs scal

when they buff true copper

in cal

[orchid finch]

No

I am a realist, sorry

[meager escarp]

im expecting it to drop in like

august

and cal would maybe take likr

[orchid finch]

Yeah that's about the ETA

[high scaffold]

You failed the test

[meager escarp]

hmm

prolly November?

maybe january

[orchid finch]

:walterheisenbergwhite:

Noxus Spray all the way

[orchid finch]

September-October...

[meager escarp]

oh

[high scaffold]

I expect tmod 1.4.5 to drop in yes months

[orchid finch]

(i am joking btw it's not guaranteed to drop early Fall)

But who knows

[lean relic]

2030

[high scaffold]

Those who know know

[orchid finch]

cut trying not to be pessimistic challenge impossible

[plucky falcon]

so calamity mode doesnt work for 1.4.5 rn?

[high scaffold]

Obviously

[plucky falcon]

ok ty

[high scaffold]

Tmod is still 1.4.4.9

[orchid finch]

And will be for a while

[high scaffold]

I wonder how vanila lightning strikes work and if could be used in other places

[vestal osprey]

Its febuary... still no brainstorm

[lyric trellis]

Update not out in 0.5 seconds it’s over

[agile latch]

True

[frail owl]

i'm wires

[lapis oak]

wtf

it's February today

holy shit didn't even notice

[granite smelt]

yes

[lapis oak]

1/28

[pale silo]

Wow this is so cringe why isn't update out.

[lapis oak]

time to count

[agile latch]

considering we have money and boulder rain now..

what you users think if there was a extremelly rare event that is basically "when pigs can fly" in which the player get a small luck boost and flying piggies fall from the sky

[pale silo]

Do pig drop bacon?

And if pig land on enemy/yourself you get squished!

Unless sufficient armour is worn

[agile latch]

piggies drop bacon yea

and money..

[pale silo]

Pinata!

[pearl sentinel]

what if the wrath of the horrible fucking hog descends upon me

[dusk bronze]

ble fucking g

[icy stump]

It would be interesting, maybe in that event they should drop something unique that couldn't drop normally

[stone fiber]

Random question, but will there be a Calamity version of the rainbow boulder track?

[pseudo vector]

that’s up to the vcmm devs, not base calamity

[buoyant pulsar]

baller

[steep path]

not sure what the discussion on this mount has been already but i can already tell that if vanilla doesn't nerf roller skates, calamity is gonna take em out back and nerf them like crazy
They're so damn good in phm 😭 (maybe good later but i've not gotten that far)

[trail brook]

Yooo CD music iam a big fan

[pseudo vector]

thank you

[pseudo vector]

wouldn't be surprised if they get nerfed, roller skates are an incredibly op movement option for early game

[craggy wagon]

i assume its really good for wall, but i haven't had much time to test out all of the 1.4.5 features

[blazing totem]

what does CD in CDMusic stand for?

cool dudes?

[summer shore]

carrot demon

[craggy wagon]

i always assumed it was a play on CDs but anythings possible

[summer shore]

choir director

[pseudo vector]

its meant to be my initials but it has a lot of other potential meanings lol

[blazing totem]

i headcanon it as "cool dudes music" because its funny and it kinda fits your work

[cunning sequoia]

Calamity Dmod Music

[blazing totem]

dmod

[night fable]

Hey guys it is very boring to scroll the channels, what most big and important things will be in the next update and when Yharim will be in the game

[craggy wagon]

a lot of reworks, also no clue when

you may be waiting years if that's all you're concerned with

[blazing totem]

yharim will be in the game when I finish my ice cream.

[pseudo vector]

the next major update mainly contains a ton of weapon reworks, a bunch of boss reworks and touch ups, and the simplification of calamity's difficulties

yharim won't be in the game for a very long time, we have literally no clue when we'll get around to it

[craggy wagon]

i've always figured that Yharim will happen once the rest of Calamity is fully updated to the modern standard, but that still will take a lot of time and a lot of work

[still bluff]

yharim in 2050

[pseudo vector]

i've asked this a handful of times to people who have asked about yharim already, so i'll ask it again

would you rather:
we add yharim now, the fight isn't as good as it could be and we might have to rework him later, meanwhile the rest of the mod is still ass by comparison
or
we rework and update everything first and do yharim last, the fight is as good as it can be and the mod is more consistent in quality in general

i do not like the thought of a "yharim rework" being something we would have a non zero chance to have to do

[craggy wagon]

i think Yharim being added after everything is polished and improved feels so much better. it really adds to the punch of whats meant to be the final climactic showdown

[night fable]

I'm very sorry forgive me please

[pseudo vector]

i have no issue with you asking lmao

i'm just keeping it honest when it comes to how his implementation could go depending on the circumstances

[night fable]

I think I would rather comfortable work for devs, that's all, do what you want to do

[lapis oak]

evil CD bullying new user

[pseudo vector]

it's a question i do like to ask people since i get to see people's opinions on the notion

[night fable]

I just have fun here

[pseudo vector]

i never mean it out of malice or anything lol

[blazing totem]

malice?

like.... the difficulty?

[craggy wagon]

malice you say?

[night fable]

Oh damn....

[blazing totem]

guys is that a calamity mod referendum 🥺

[dusk bronze]

malice in this month

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-shades-sunglasses-eyeglasses-cant-see-gif-17413466

but yeah in terms of the next update it will be launching some time this month

[blazing totem]

wrong

brainstorm will release when I feel like it

[vale lodge]

whips get randomized arcs in 1.4.5

[craggy wagon]

brainstorm out when i finish my soup

[blazing totem]

✅

and then a comically large bowl of soup slides onto the scene

[craggy wagon]

[dusk bronze]

how triangular

[night fable]

Oh and yes guys, I didn't find anything about portraits 1 4 5,because in my discord search option doesn't work by some reason,sorry,will they probably be in calamity too? Well, I meant that Calamity's NPCs will have their portraits and shimmer variants.

[dusk bronze]

:probably:

[craggy wagon]

calamity currently doesn't have shimmer variants in general, though I assume they'll happen at some point

[desert garnet]

spriter hell

[pseudo vector]

we'll make our own npc portraits when we get to porting to 1.4.5

[blazing totem]

tmod 1.4.5 aint happening anytime soon

[pseudo vector]

that won't be happening for a good bit tho, tmod itself has to update to 1.4.5 first

[blazing totem]

tmod 1.4.5 when i finish my ice cream

[dusk bronze]

tmod 1.4.5 in more than 2

[craggy wagon]

i assume SSO will likely come before 1.4.5 porting?

[dusk bronze]

who knows

[blazing totem]

i would not count on it tbh

Brainstorm? very likely

[dusk bronze]

*guaranteed

[night fable]

as for porting to the new version, I think the developers should have sent the new version to the creators of major mods a couple of weeks before the release, so that both tmodloader and major mods could be updated in a couple of days. of course, I'm not a developer and I don't know everything, but in my opinion, this is the best option, isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[hot wadi]

gonna see Amadias's mouth and find out why the Party girl wants to use it as a Vuvuzela

[pseudo vector]

the porting process for tmod for new terraria versions usually takes a long time

[lament wyvern]

what the hell is brainstorm

[dusk bronze]

2.1

[pseudo vector]

the next major update

[blazing totem]

some update idk

[lament wyvern]

ah

[hot wadi]

planned SSO update without the SS overhaul part

[blazing totem]

it adds like 2 new items

[dusk bronze]

sunken sea overhaul overhaul

[lament wyvern]

true

[pseudo vector]

https://calamitymod.com/post.html?post=christmas2025

read up on it here

[lament wyvern]

what are we even talking about

[hot wadi]

what is DoG eating lol ^_^

[desert garnet]

Sunken Sea Overhaul was being made for over a year

[craggy wagon]

you.

[blazing totem]

brain of chthulu

[desert garnet]

cuz they were reworking stuff which werent sunken sea

[lament wyvern]

why is the sunken sea overhaul not about the sea is what im wonderin

[blazing totem]

it's lowkey giving Yaoi

[dusk bronze]

sso was gonna have 515 glupshitingtillion weapon reworks
they're now in brainstorm instead

[pseudo vector]

basically, we have a ton of stuff that wasn't related to the sunken sea that was going to be part of the sunken sea overhaul
and we're releasing that as its own update

[hot wadi]

because the mod needs to be modernized before the devs can actually start to make genuine progress

[spark kiln]

notice how the update isn’t called sunken sea overhaul

[pseudo vector]

funnily enough brainstorm will be the largest update in calamity history

[lament wyvern]

maybe we should stick to smaller updates?

[hot wadi]

nah :)

[dusk bronze]

wow what a novel concept

[rough vine]

weapon reworks today means less reworks in the future

[pseudo vector]

after brainstorm we don't plan on doing an update this big again lol

[spark kiln]

why do you think the whole things been split

[pseudo vector]

it became this big on accident

[dusk bronze]

the creeper of scopes

[spark kiln]

eh the same was said after 1.5

[tribal isle]

so distortion is not happening?

[dusk bronze]

what

[hot wadi]

so after the overhaul part of SSO, do you devs plan on revamping Azafure

[pseudo vector]

distortion is still happening???

[dusk bronze]

that's a whole new sentence bruh

[tribal isle]

doesnt it fall under big update

[spark kiln]

he didn’t say they’d never do big updates though

[pseudo vector]

crags will be its own update

[rough vine]

scope doesn't mean content

[desert garnet]

cdmusic said they wont do updates** this** big

[craggy wagon]

distortion will still happen but i dont think it'll be in one (or two) fell swoops like SSO has been

[blazing totem]

can we get a comparison of brainstorm vs other updates and the eiffel tower

[pseudo vector]

uhhhhhhhh

[hot wadi]

compare patch notes for us pls

[pseudo vector]

brainstorm's changelog is 580k characters long

[blazing totem]

580k...

[pseudo vector]

idk how long the draedon update's changelog was but it sure as hell wasn't as long as brainstorm's

[summer shore]

Distortion update clearly has to include every single distortion related thing such as sentinels and dog resprite + rework, distortion biome itself and its 5 gorillion enemies and items, noxus boss and a noxus counterboss called suxon

[blazing totem]

okay. what was theoretically the second biggest update then? 🤔

[rough vine]

isn't number of changes a better metric

[spark kiln]

number of characters isn’t a great measurement tho

[pseudo vector]

there's nearly 4,000 individual changes in brainstorm

[blazing totem]

suxon these nuts

[spark kiln]

1.5

[pseudo vector]

both big and small

from tiny number changes to more fleshed out reworks

[rough vine]

that's like... big number

[lament wyvern]

another zenith nerf?!?! 🗣️

[pseudo vector]

its a more general update that covers stuff across the board

[dusk bronze]

it was never nerfed

[pseudo vector]

but also marks the beginning of the new era more properly

[blazing totem]

and how many characters did the changelog have

[lament wyvern]

putting it after the second last boss is pretty much a nerf techically

[dusk bronze]

no

[blazing totem]

calamity numberslop update

[desert garnet]

its one of the best option for exo mechs

[spark kiln]

yea except zenith is actually just that good

[pseudo vector]

zenith was way too busted for being right after moon lord

[night fable]

Honestly I think dialogue system will be very interesting feature

[spark kiln]

it’s either nerf it or move it

[pseudo vector]

so putting it later in progression made more sense than nerfing it

nerfing it would have made people really mad lmao

[lament wyvern]

what if zenith was post dog 🤔

[night fable]

What about last prism

[hot wadi]

then a small nerf would happen

[pseudo vector]

last prism is fine

[steady sun]

Prism is way less broken then zenith

[night fable]

[lament wyvern]

what abour celebration mk2 🗣️

[pseudo vector]

idk

[dusk bronze]

also fine

[spark kiln]

zenith was deliberately made stronger than everything else because of favouritism

[hot wadi]

fireworks are usually stuffed in, it's harmless

[pseudo vector]

relogic's melee favouritism

[lament wyvern]

relogic made blade of grass meta

[tribal isle]

wasnt it always

meta

[dusk bronze]

eh

[hot wadi]

they gotta make more zenith weapons (for calamity devs to lock behind Yharon)

[pseudo vector]

no thank you lmao

we don't need any more balancing headaches

[lament wyvern]

we arleady have zenith weapons

[night fable]

Zenith last prism

[dusk bronze]

yharim's crystal

[pseudo vector]

we already have to deal with 1.4.5's new reforges :DDDDDDDD

[lament wyvern]

theres items that require zenith typa crafting tree

[hot wadi]

oh yeah
Fabled modifier will give you guys quite the doozy

[tribal isle]

is fabled good (fables upscale)?

[lament wyvern]

what about the whips-

[spark kiln]

most of the whips are pretty meaningless

[pseudo vector]

we have a planned update that will cover summoner as a whole some time along the line, we don't know when it'll happen though

[night fable]

I think calamity should become an independent game and buy Terraria to make calamity official Terraria canon story and sell books with lore for 500 bucks

[lament wyvern]

wait let him cook

[cunning sequoia]

"Patrick, does Relogic love us?"
"Thats a good question Spongebob. Relogic is all loving as well as all powerful. They would never do something if they didnt believe that it would help the modding community"

"add armor penetration to minions"

[craggy wagon]

at last... cosimic immaterializer... my child, your time has come

[dusk bronze]

TWENTY
FIVE
PIERCING

[steady sun]

Major terraria update buffing summoner > summoner is now broken as fuck in cal, cal update discussing nerfing summoner > Major terraria update buffing summoner

[lament wyvern]

dont they have damage reduction anyways

[hot wadi]

what's funny is that the armore penetration reforges go upwards to +25

[lament wyvern]

why is armor pierce such big deal

[night fable]

I think it is good business plan

[dusk bronze]

ignores enemy defense

[spark kiln]

probably because it increases dps significantly

[hot wadi]

not really much of a need in late game

[lament wyvern]

most of the times it doesn't matter?

[pseudo vector]

nnnnnnnno

[tribal isle]

will reign of yharim sell lore books

[pseudo vector]

that would be a legal and financial nightmare

[lament wyvern]

cann we kill yharim

[hot wadi]

[steady sun]

Most enemies tend to have defence

[cunning sequoia]

its just straight up a damage increase

[tribal isle]

name 1

[steady sun]

Yharim

[cunning sequoia]

because most enemies later on have defense

[spark kiln]

slime (maybe)

[lament wyvern]

is 25 damage really allat?

[spark kiln]

yes

[night fable]

take out a loan and buy a re logic

[cunning sequoia]

25 points of defense ignored? yeah

[steady sun]

Per hit per minion

[cunning sequoia]

its a lot

[spark kiln]

25 more damage per hit is insane

[dusk bronze]

it's not even 25 damage

[pseudo vector]

i think relogic is worth a lot more than you think it is

[dusk bronze]

it's way more

[tribal isle]

re logic should merge with tmodloader and add it to basegame also add crossplay and mods to phones and consoles

[pseudo vector]

relogic is worth a shit ton of money

[spark kiln]

multiply that by how many minions you have and their attack rate and that’s a huge increase in dps

[pseudo vector]

like terraria is one of the best selling games of all time LMAO

[lament wyvern]

is terraria really allat

[spark kiln]

and then factor in the new late game whips

GG

[cunning sequoia]

its like top 10 best selling games oat right

[pseudo vector]

and that's not even accounting for all their non-ingame stuff like merch

[dusk bronze]

#7 last i checked

[night fable]

Ok take 2 loans.

[tribal isle]

terraria has merch?

[pseudo vector]

yes?

[craggy wagon]

yeah it kinda is. its impact hasn't really been in merchandising like Minecraft but but in terms of video games as a whole its been WILD

[pseudo vector]

terraria legit set up the staff at relogic for life lmao

[night fable]

It has own board game

[cunning sequoia]

it sold more than the first mario bros lol

[tribal isle]

is that why we're at the 5th last update

[vocal kelp]

No that's because they really like making updates

[dusk bronze]

1.1.2 was the final update

[craggy wagon]

red got mad at Nintendo for making him take town mario X so he said "fine i'm gonna outsell 99% of the games you make"

[wise bolt]

five hundred updates

[steady sun]

How the fuck is human fall flat at 10th

Its a fun game but what

[vocal kelp]

On money alone 1.3 already had the game be like top 30

[spark kiln]

wtf is human fall flat

[vocal kelp]

The Chinese

[dusk bronze]

gang beasts but worse

[vocal kelp]

It was really popular in china at some point

[pseudo vector]

human fall flat is great

[vocal kelp]

Gang beasts but better

[craggy wagon]

i always forget human fall flat sells REALLY hard

[vocal kelp]

Also it's not even the same genre

[pseudo vector]

its nothing like gang beasts but it has the same really silly character stuff

[lament wyvern]

lowkey every time they need to boost their cash they just make another final update

[dusk bronze]

can you drink beef though?

[tribal isle]

among us of its time in terms of hype

[spark kiln]

then there’s be no updates

[steady sun]

I loved it like years ago, just not very replayable for most

[night fable]

Once I woke up...
It was just a dream...

[cunning sequoia]

human fall flat is gang beasts if it was a platforming game

its really funny

[steady sun]

Ye

Im suprised

[pseudo vector]

human fall flat is great with friends

[spark kiln]

like dawg it’s the 7th best selling game and relogic isn’t a big studio

[lament wyvern]

wait human fall flat sold that much?

[spark kiln]

when will they ever need more money

[steady sun]

It still rarely gets updates

[lament wyvern]

why is that even

[pseudo vector]

it was huge in the 2010's

[craggy wagon]

i have vivid memories of playing human fall flat with my friend the same month old duke came out. what a time (a bad time but a time nonetheless)

[pseudo vector]

like genuinely huge

[steady sun]

Ye

[lament wyvern]

also terraria nerfed darts

🤔

[tribal isle]

are the lightsabers good now

[vocal kelp]

Yeah

[night fable]

no

[lament wyvern]

keyblade also has lightsaber mechanic

[craggy wagon]

they're pretty stellar combo weapons

[pseudo vector]

phaseblades are great now from what i've seen

[night fable]

https://giphy.com/gifs/peppa-pig-who-is-he-ZSdrWElW3FCBZJmxG1

[pseudo vector]

they look super fun to use

[lament wyvern]

also keyblade is techically phaseblade now

[pseudo vector]

isn't keyblade just lategame phaseblade now???

when do you even get phaseblade

[craggy wagon]

basically yeah. i miss when it was a cool flex

[pseudo vector]

keyblade i mean

[vocal kelp]

dungeon post plant

[craggy wagon]

post-plant dungeon

rare drop from most guys iirc

[hot wadi]

post-plantera dungeon

[craggy wagon]

i always personally associate it with old Yrimir videos rather than the game its referencing

[lament wyvern]

I forgot how the key sword was called

was it key brand

idk never played the game it's from

[pseudo vector]

keybrand yeah

its a kingdom hearts reference

i’ve never played those games either but i never really found them that interesting

[lament wyvern]

the sephirot is lowkey the guy from that one other game I forgo

[night fable]

ai mods for terraria is litteraly shit i think

[craggy wagon]

my brain cannot handle insane jrpgs like that. im too busy remembering pokemon stuff

[craggy wagon]

he's also in kingdom hearts lol

[lament wyvern]

yes that's

uh whatever

[hot wadi]

there are wha-

[pseudo vector]

sephiroth is originally from final fantasy 7

[lament wyvern]

TERRARIA WITHERED FOXY jumpscare

[pseudo vector]

very good game

[lament wyvern]

1/10000 chance

[cunning sequoia]

i saw a screenshot of woody pushing sora out of the way and thought "what the FUCK could possibly be the context for this"

[pseudo vector]

LMAO

[hot wadi]

"hold on, let him cook"

[pseudo vector]

dude kingdom hearts 3 has so much disney shit it unironically drove me away from wanting to play it

[cunning sequoia]

AND APPARENTLY HE CALLS HIMSELF A FRIEND LIKE IMMEDIATELY AFTER

[lament wyvern]

when are we getting project moon reference in calamity lowkey

[craggy wagon]

WHAT

friend... inside...

[pseudo vector]

like its starting to outweigh the original story that kingdom hearts has going on

[hot wadi]

The only thing I honestly know about Kingdom Hearts is the song "Dearly Beloved"

[pseudo vector]

oh yeah yoko shimamura my goat

generational video game composer

[lament wyvern]

kill all communities lowke

[craggy wagon]

shatter all communities?

[dusk bronze]

[lament wyvern]

shattered community

lore accurate to the server

[night fable]

i need role book for 500 dollars with all calamity lore and story

[lament wyvern]

you dont

[dusk bronze]

that exists for free
#lore-discussion first pin

[somber salmon]

sunken sea update part 11

[night fable]

maybe we will make TNO from calamity

[woeful pagoda]

Im hyped for the update that is happening this month 🥳

[neat crest]

whatt is the best rogue weapon for moonlordwhat is the best rogue weapon for Providence

[halcyon seal]

Had a dream that 1.4.5 added a new underground corruption biome near Hell but as a downside of being thereyou kept getting emailed scams by the Goblin Army

[analog helm]

the g in spamton g spamton stands for goblin

[hot wadi]

for moon lord, use the meld constructs
for Profaned Guardians and Providence, use what Moon Lord dropped

[wide nova]

im canceling brainstorm because my brain fog cleared

therefore the storm ended

go home everybody

[pale silo]

lines for if you directly interact with a pylon

[barren sparrow]

okay guys, quick question, I suppose this asked a lot, but please tolerate me, is there any info about mod update?

[pale silo]

heartstorm now

[pale silo]

pins explains it~

[wide nova]

risk of brain

[pseudo vector]

also check the newsletter on the website

linked in #mod-announcements

[hot wadi]

honest question what was mod development like with Fabsol

[wide nova]

restrictive is the best word for it

[pseudo vector]

fun’nt

[barren sparrow]

ty

[hot wadi]

elaborate if you can

[pseudo vector]

kinda just felt like we were constantly treading carefully in case we said something that somehow upset him, he was very difficult to work with

not a very collaborative individual to work with, especially in regards to anything related to bosses

he was also just an asshole in general

[night fable]

Did he do some crazy stuff while drunk?

[hot wadi]

So those reworks we keep seeing to a lot of Calamity's bosses took quite an effort for you guys to push to him (Especially DoG, Calclone, and Calamitas herself because of how noticable it is)

[pseudo vector]

the "reworks" he claimed to do back then were nothing but number tweaks, usually resulting in the fights becoming less fun or just being neutered in general

[pale silo]

gotta love the surprise drop of OD too

[pseudo vector]

i don't know how much effort it took to push to do the reworks to scal with her becoming a human and the brothers rework also

i wasn't around for that

[hot wadi]

Tell doze and co. they're nuts for surviving him

[pseudo vector]

i mean, with his reign of terror over now things do feel a lot less restrictive than they once felt

[idle spindle]

oh....

[pale silo]

tbf i think doze joined after fab left? or extremely close to the yeetening

[pale silo]

roxcalaber but everywhere in the world :3

[pseudo vector]

doze joined some time between 2023 and 2025, i wouldn't know when

[pale silo]

iirc it was within the year? maybe a bit longer

[hot wadi]

I've seen doze here before the Fabsol situation tho

[pseudo vector]

i was largely absent from the tmod space as a whole during that time

[pale silo]

oh yeah doze was pretty active around the community beforehand def

[night fable]

how many beans you have eaten since 31 of october 2021

[pseudo vector]

the only restrictions we really put on ourselves now is what we don't consider reasonable for us to accomplish as a team

what

[pale silo]

i remember talking to them a lot ab how low blocks you needed for sb

and finding out ab the 1 block tall lava = water thing

[idle spindle]

i rmeember when doze was just a guy in caltalk

[cunning sequoia]

pretty sure it was 2025? i know doze wasnt on the internet for a year or two

[idle spindle]

👴

[pale silo]

i feel like its 2025

[pseudo vector]

[hasty tangle]

doze came back in early 2025

[pale silo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hasty tangle]

earlier than anticipated

[pseudo vector]

ah

i imagine it was in the lead up to the fabbening

[hasty tangle]

it was a bit before

[pseudo vector]

since i know i came back after and doze was already there

[hasty tangle]

i remember he was SUPPOSED to come back in april

but he was here a couple months earlier

[pale silo]

be vibin

[hot wadi]

at the time I knew them as the guy who made the chalice HP indicator

[pseudo vector]

doze is one of my goats

[pale silo]

doze is def a goat

[pseudo vector]

his work on the dog rework is something i'm really excited for you guys to experience

[pale silo]

i honestly cant wait~

[hot wadi]

dude gotta put in the work to give accessibility for low-end devices, that shader tech makes my FPS tank

[hasty tangle]

i am as well

[pale silo]

also to try mal dog too, but ofc sticking with main difficulties first

[hot wadi]

which one, the one in brainstorm or in the future

[pale silo]

brain

[pseudo vector]

brainstorm

[hasty tangle]

storm

[pale silo]

the brainstorm sandwich

[pseudo vector]

brainstorm dog is the best dog has felt in a very long time imo

i prefer brainstorm dog over infernum dog quite a bit

[hasty tangle]

forever is pretty long, yeah

[hot wadi]

I've seen the trailer in the website, I know I will actually enjoy ||the laser wall sections|| soon

[pale silo]

you werent around during the birth of time? smh

[pseudo vector]

its more of a montage than a trailer but sure lol

[hasty tangle]

it does seem like the laser walls are better integrated

cuz atm they just grind the fight to a halt for no reason

completely kills the pacing

[lyric trellis]

Goodbye slow as hell lingering projectiles

[pale silo]

i think walls should just become beams of death :3

[hasty tangle]

but judging by that dog is slither.io-ing you in the trailer, i assume theres a more natural transition

[pale silo]

no lingering projectile if it all hits at the same time

[pseudo vector]

yes

[hot wadi]

imagine if DoG in malice has laser walls from Infernum tho-

[idle spindle]

what's brainstorm

[pseudo vector]

the next major update

dropping this month

[pale silo]

2.1

[hot wadi]

SSO update without the SSO part

[idle spindle]

woaj

[pale silo]

all i know is its not on the 17th :3

(trust me)

[pseudo vector]

they're great, the transition feels natural enough from him chasing you to circling around you to do laser walls
its short and snappy, and doesn't disrupt the flow of the fight

[hasty tangle]

good

[lyric trellis]

Update on From the Ashes 3rd anniversary clearly

[pseudo vector]

a definite improvement over the lagfest of projectiles they are in current public calamity

[hot wadi]

that means I have to finish up my summoner playthrough ASAP

(I wonder what other aspects did you guys improve for DoG...)

[dusk bronze]

literally everything
i mean it

every single aspect

[dusk bronze]

back then we were rising from the ashes of 22, now we're rising from the ashes of bad game design

[pale silo]

even his hp

[lyric trellis]

Cosmic Guardians improved (removed)

[hot wadi]

Can you at least confirm no more "slower crawltipede" phase 1 AI for me pls?

[pale silo]

wb the DoTs

[dusk bronze]

[lyric trellis]

This time we’ll get Astral Undergrowth

[dusk bronze]

my favorite addition to the mod

[hot wadi]

...and there goes a source of healing
probably for the better if the fight's pacing gets changed to the point they make the fight feel cluttered when included

[vivid hemlock]

done ✅

[pale silo]

god mk10 makes this SO much easier

[idle spindle]

playing vanilla (and specifically not journey) again has reminded me why I play modded + journey

[dusk bronze]

trying to find a lava charm was hell torture

[high scaffold]

I wonder how calamity summoner will play on 1.4.5

[hot wadi]

and this is why you have "craftable uncraftables" mods

[high scaffold]

I shimmered a magma stone for it

[dusk bronze]

you can do that???

[hot wadi]

Whip choice is either Kaleidoscope or Possession and reforge bonuses are changed (probably)
nothing significant changes in terms of gameplay, especially post-ML

[high scaffold]

Yes

[dusk bronze]

well i didn't get a magma stone anyway

[high scaffold]

Its much easier to farm hell bats than other ways of getting lava charm

[high scaffold]

But pre ml on the other hand

[hot wadi]

that's where the fun begins

[high scaffold]

Display of flower might shine so much

As each petal is 40 damage and 50 armor penetration

And you get 3 petals per marked enemy hit

With right minions could do a lot

[pale silo]

anyone know how you get this? kinda curious on the flight stats

[orchid finch]

isn't it the uuh

make-a-wish set

[pale silo]

i feel like it is

[orchid finch]

if it needs to be activated then it's pre-hardmode

lile Chippy's cape

[pale silo]

hmmstdve

[orchid finch]

huh

[pale silo]

weird

[orchid finch]

yeah

[pale silo]

artifical one works too

offically only missing radar for pda/cell phone

[orchid finch]

badass

[pale silo]

unironically one of the hardest to get in sb

as its only 1% from wood crates

[orchid finch]

damn yeah, sounds painful

[high scaffold]

Must be a reference to the foundation

[orchid finch]

scp?

[pale silo]

I'd guess so

[high scaffold]

Like donating money for charity

[orchid finch]

ah, that

yeah, sounds about right

well it is literally called make-a-wish

I guess Oasis lake can be called a wish fountain

[torpid lagoon]

Hey, I have a question: are they already updating the mod for version 1.4.5?

[pale silo]

Pins explains it

[torpid lagoon]

okay

thx

[fathom girder]

Ooh special wings??

Imma check that out

[stiff talon]

pretty sure it was asked many times before but when does new update drop?

[hot pebble]

Viktor Korneplod

[night fable]

new calamity boss btw

[dusk bronze]

this month

[stiff talon]

nice, thanks

[idle spindle]

one of the items ever

[lament wyvern]

quadruple jump

[wide wadi]

lol that item slows me down during boss fights

[fathom girder]

don't use them with wings

they suck with wings

[halcyon seal]

If I can soapbox for a bit I feel like a lot of discourse I’ve seen around 1.4.5 kinda assumes that Terraria is a game which inherently needs to worry about its meta

And I just don’t think that’s true?

Like yes there is definitely a meta that will form

[fathom bay]

do we know when calamity is coming to 1.4.5

[halcyon seal]

But like. As long as its not literally killing bosses in 10 seconds

It’s probably fine

[fathom girder]

read the pins

[hasty tangle]

pins

[halcyon seal]

pins

[fathom bay]

tyyy

[fathom girder]

people will complain about literally anything in this day and age

anyone whining about 1.4.5 is not worth listening to

frankly

[hasty tangle]

id more say its easier to find people who will complain about anything

cuz the community is more developed

[halcyon seal]

I don’t want to call it whining because that feels like shutting out genuine criticism

The new mounts for example are just. Man

[idle spindle]

it's basically the only form of mobility I really use nowadays

at least in vanilla

[fathom girder]

chillet isn't as good as people think it is

it's a free ram but you can't use wings

[fathom bay]

im new at terraria but wanted to play with mods so thanks for the info guys

[halcyon seal]

Don’t play mods until you’ve beaten the base game

[fathom girder]

the skates can replace your boots but then you don't have other mounts

[halcyon seal]

On expert mode ideally

[wicked halo]

Play vanilla first.

[hasty tangle]

have you beaten the vanilla game at least once before?

because if not, its HIGHLY recommended to do at least 1 playthrough

[fathom girder]

it's not a competitive game and it's a single player experience in most cases

[lament wyvern]

why'd they nerf dart guns tho

[halcyon seal]

What other mounts would you even want over them

[fathom girder]

tldr who fucken cares if something's better

[wicked halo]

Please you'll get your ass kicked if you don't play vanilla.

[halcyon seal]

Because dart rifle and pistol were absurdly good

[fathom bay]

never played vanilla i need my QOL stuff haha

[lament wyvern]

I did beat vannila once

[fathom girder]

slime saddle, pogo stick, the offensive mounts you get later in hardmode

[lament wyvern]

I never planned to use dart guns

I dont think anyone uses them

meh

[wicked halo]

I do.

[fathom girder]

People are treating the 1.4.5 changes like it's an overwatch patch or some nonsense

it's utterly pointless

[twin juniper]

The skate is awesome for placing platforms

[wicked halo]

The Cursed Darts are great.

[halcyon seal]

Define offensive mounts because im a bit confused there

Like, toy tank and scuttler?

[fathom girder]

The ones that attack

yes

[fathom bay]

just wamma play the new update lol

[versed heart]

Were they?

[halcyon seal]

Those mounts do basically no damage last I checked

[twin juniper]

Crystal dart is broken actually

[fathom girder]

they scale with summon damage

[lament wyvern]

I have never seen dart user

💔

[fathom girder]

though the scuttler does add a fair bit on its own

[halcyon seal]

I see so many people using dart rifle

It’s such a good weapon

Probably one of the best pre-mech weapons

[lament wyvern]

idk maybe im not playing multiplayer enough?

[twin juniper]

I’m in need of more dart contents

[lament wyvern]

dart is kinda gutted tho

[pale silo]

I love dart rifle

Great and easy to get

[lament wyvern]

dont all the rangers go for megashark

[pale silo]

Especially in cal

[lament wyvern]

or whatever

[pale silo]

Cause of the worms.

[lament wyvern]

megashark*

[pale silo]

Megashark is...not that good

Ima be real

Vanilla it's okay

But repeaters are better overall

[lament wyvern]

what???

[pale silo]

Chloro repeat is just flat better, same for hollow repeat

[lament wyvern]

but it uses arrows

[pale silo]

Add on arrow types being more wacky

Yeah precisely

Chloro arrows are vastly better than chloro bullets

[rancid pendant]

Yeah megashark is just Okay at best

a lot of better options at that stage

[pale silo]

It's definitely not bad that's for sure

[lament wyvern]

what happened to megashark

[pale silo]

And it's a good comfort weapon

[lament wyvern]

I thought everyone used it

[pale silo]

Power creep

It was amazing...in 1.2.4

[rancid pendant]

yeah people are just used to it

[pale silo]

1.3 made that not the case, comparitively

[rancid pendant]

scared to try other options

[pale silo]

It didn't get nerfed

Just stronger options were introduced

[halcyon seal]

Megashark is still good

[pale silo]

Oh yeah absolutely

[halcyon seal]

It’s not a bad weapon by any means

[pale silo]

Easy to get too

[halcyon seal]

It’s just that if you’re playing to use the best weapons

[lament wyvern]

how come repeaters are stronger than megashark

[rancid pendant]

yeah it still is a very viable weapons but there are a lot of better options

[twin juniper]

Always a nice choice

[halcyon seal]

It’s just kinda outclassed

[runic charm]

having to grind 5 shark fins is annoying too, though not as bad with the new chum changes

[pale silo]

Archer potions + magic quiver

[rancid pendant]

easier to buff arrow dmg

and better arrow types

[lament wyvern]

ins't magic quiver only basic arrows

[pale silo]

Also arrows are better overall

Than bullets

Nope

That's the fire quiver thjng

And even then it still buffs the stats

Just doesn't convert

[rancid pendant]

also 1 attack dealing 100dmg > 10 attacks dealing 10 dmg

[lament wyvern]

damn im really doing stuff wrong in my vannila ranger playthru

im tryna kill plantera with megashark

I tried every bullet type

lowkey

[pale silo]

Also another example: as long as you don't use holy arrows, Daedalus is just amazing still

It's still good with holy

[rancid pendant]

just get a repeater

[pale silo]

But it with hellfire

Or unholy or alike

[twin juniper]

It can work
Chloro shotbow much better tho

[pale silo]

Chloro repeat is amazing with chloro arrows

[lament wyvern]

wait so repeater or bow

[rancid pendant]

chloro shotbow

[pale silo]

They're both the same thing internally so dw

Id use chloro for plant

[lament wyvern]

also after plantera I need to do mushroom biome huh

[rancid pendant]

yeah do it now

so its ready

[pale silo]

An easy way to do it btw

Evil seeds on mud, purify, use mushroom clemtam

[lament wyvern]

what

[pale silo]

Cause of the npcs existing even without housing

[lament wyvern]

why not just use mushroom first

[pale silo]

You can make a insta mushroom biome

[pale silo]

Seeds are annoying to get

[lament wyvern]

I got some

it's fine

[pale silo]

Evil seeds is just buying em

[high scaffold]

I wonder how good will calamity yoyos be the magic string and bag

[pale silo]

"some" or 200

[dusk bronze]

or farming eoc

[pale silo]

Yeah

[lament wyvern]

for eoc you need like

alot of lens

[pale silo]

But yeah evil seeds is for jungle biome

And jungle can be clemtaminated

[twin juniper]

Shoulda farm them in bloodmoon

[dusk bronze]

calamity makes boss summons non consumable

[pale silo]

Easy artificial mushroom

[lament wyvern]

im talkin about vannila

duh

[pale silo]

This is vanilla

[dusk bronze]

ah

[pale silo]

Blood moon at dryad gets the seeds

Namely opposite evil seeds

[lament wyvern]

im just impressed that bows are better than guns

[dusk bronze]

you can still find summons easily in chests

[lament wyvern]

wacky balancin

lowke

[twin juniper]

There’s no gun accessories 💔 (aside from scope probably idk)

[lament wyvern]

that feeling when I lowkey not optimal in terraria

(we going meta)

[pale silo]

hell yeah

[mortal cobalt]

hey guys. how decrease calamity version?

[deft lily]

erm

[dusk bronze]

github shenanigans

[deft lily]

what

[lament wyvern]

you want to downgrade calamity versions?

I thought there has not been a update in ages

[pale silo]

Maybe going back to 1.5?

[mortal cobalt]

yeah

[deft lily]

i think theres like, an og version of cal on the workshop

or something

[pale silo]

Some people want to do malice stuff

[lament wyvern]

melee ranger and summoner huh
IM NOT DOING MAGE 🗣️

[pale silo]

Mage in vanilla is actually good

Crystal serpent shreds early hm

Early game is the only bad part

But amber staff is easy to get nowadays

[twin juniper]

spirit flame looking funny

[pale silo]

Which works till post evil

Which by then you have space gun and alike

[rancid pendant]

demon scythe

also gray zapinator if you manage to get is

is crazy

[pale silo]

Yups

[rancid pendant]

i actually think vanilla terraria is pretty balanced in terms of class strength

ranger is maybe a bit underpowered but its the easiest to use

[pale silo]

Melee is only the most op cause of how busted defence is

[rancid pendant]

yeah really easy to just facetank master mode bosses in vanilla

[pale silo]

Gotta love people dying on the hill of "melee DPS is busted"...if you face tank

[rancid pendant]

glad they made cal bosses reduce defense on hit

[twin juniper]

Mage and summoner be achieving godlike powers the second they killed plantera

[pale silo]

Yeah

Also melee

And kinda ranger

Shroomite gear is not to be scoffed at

[rancid pendant]

all classes are godlike after plant

[pale silo]

It's a multi damage bonus

Basically the only other multi minus reforges

On the actual weapon

[fathom girder]

was mage given much in 1.4.5 anyway

[lament wyvern]

oh hey I have this

[pale silo]

-1 mana cost to amber staff

[twin juniper]

They got the biggest jump in my opinion

[fathom girder]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[mystic eagle]

Was mage given much since 1.4 anyway

[fathom girder]

-1 mana cost let's FUCKEN GOOOOOOOOO

[pale silo]

Seriously tho

Laser rifle is now insane

[fathom girder]

Oh right

laser rifle meteorite combo

[high scaffold]

Way too strong of a buff

[pale silo]

And space gun is now usable properly again

For it being T1 evil

[fathom girder]

earlygame mage needed some love so that's swag

[pale silo]

The hard part with mage is pre boss

[lament wyvern]

do yall think this is guud

[rancid pendant]

i was hoping they would add a true melee late game weapon in 1.4.5

[pale silo]

Getting to the first staff

[rancid pendant]

at your stage its not

[pale silo]

A good pre mech weapon

[lament wyvern]

damn

ima sell it

[pale silo]

Ab as powerful as megashark

[twin juniper]

I thought it drop after 1 mech

[pale silo]

(case and point for power creep)

Uhhhh

[high scaffold]

I wonder how magic gun and laser rifle scaling with distance works

[pale silo]

It's one of the two

Either way it's onpar with thy shark

[pale silo]

From what I've seen

It's ab a 1.4x damage mult

Assuming long ranged

With +2/3 pierce

So a decent bit

[tribal isle]

yharim subscribed to the calamity mod patreon?

[pale silo]

But that's just me eye balling stats

[fathom girder]

how else is he gonna be made

[pale silo]

I forgot about rune wizard contact damage

fuckin 600 damage in full defence gear

[dusk bronze]

[lapis oak]

Yharim donated to Calamity Patreon no way

[pale silo]

Needless to say

I got deleted

hm i wonder what happened here....

[lament wyvern]

how is my ammo lookin

[pale silo]

why reg muskets in hm?

also thats enough ammo easily

esp with ammo box and potion

[native thistle]

huh, i think you are in the wrong chat, dude

[pale silo]

wdym

[native thistle]

you cut out the next 2 words

[pale silo]

yeah and this is for 1.4.5 spoilers for the people who hasnt had a chance to play it

[dusk bronze]

upcoming and newly released content

[pale silo]

thus its confined to this channel for probably about a month till release

[stark pond]

did... melee get 500 buffs again

[lament wyvern]

are you guys sure theres chrolotyte repeater

[pale silo]

Yes

Costs like 16 bars

Or smth

[stark pond]

there is a chlorophyte repeater

[pale silo]

Looks like a repeater

[stark pond]

oh it's uhh

shotbow

[pale silo]

Shotbow is the name

[native thistle]

look at the official wiki for that

[pale silo]

But the classification of it is a repeater

[native thistle]

everything you need is there

[lament wyvern]

so it's shotbow

[stark pond]

name is shotbow

[fluid moss]

i have no games and i want to play 2.1 so much DAMN

[native thistle]

embed fail

[stark pond]

i thought these phasesaber and keybrand reworks were ok (not quite just deploying a free sentry with no cost is a bit of insane)
read them all again and 500 early games and early HM melee up whilst other classes get measly anything

big update for the melee

[obtuse hawk]

Odious keybrand

[elder yacht]

When do you guys think the sunken sea update is gonna release since we could get 1.4.5 Tmod this year?

[fathom girder]

keybrand is alright

it's like the uhhhhhhhhhhhhh what's the name of that one cal weapon that does something similar

you toss out a projectile and it just sits there and shoots things passively

[stark pond]

system bane?