calamity-update-talk

[subtle pagoda]

death mode king slime no longer summoning the other slimes is such a huge nerf wtf

[lapis oak]

got it

special drop, stronger option, no upgrades

it's back to being its own thing now

but is daytime EoL oneshot becoming a thing

in Cal

[fathom girder]

lame

coulda made day EoL actually interesting but post ml tier so that going back to her to get the summon would be interesting

and it'd still get to be a crafting item

AND you could flex beating her early proper

[deft lily]

Ah yes the devs should keep a change just so folks can beat her early to flex on randos on the internet.

[lapis oak]

I don't see how that make it lame but ok

[deft lily]

[dense sundial]

Oh fr

Source?

[lapis oak]

Altix

should've put this in changelogs

cause it is by no means an Expert item

[fringe quiver]

its an expert item becasue it needs you to be an expert at the game to no hit one of its hardest bosses you see

thats thelogic

[modern grove]

thats relogic

[lapis oak]

genius

[deft lily]

true

[modern grove]

truedon strikes again

[royal garnet]

Are the tobias miracle matter stuff still happening?

[lapis oak]

as told that he hasn't pulled any concepts yet so yes

it's a collab between Dia and Tobias so most likely Dia will finish it

[dusk bronze]

afawk all tobias sprites are staying

[dense sundial]

It’s an Expert item because Expert EoL’s pattern is her enraged one

…I guess?

[versed tendon]

Erm whatasigma

[dull heart]

Yes

Prisma is returning to day only, being buffed a little bit (not all the way back to vanilla tho lol)

it's back to actually having its identity

[lapis oak]

really?

oneshot is back with Fab's AI?

[dull heart]

I don't know if the ai is back to being same as night or not

but the oneshot is back

[lapis oak]

bruh

[fathom girder]

yawn

[lapis oak]

where's Reb

[fathom girder]

guess I'll just get stardust cell staff for deus instead then

[lapis oak]

every attacks is oneshot @ Rebecca

[spark kiln]

the rev+ changes for eol are good tho

unless daytime does some bullshit

[lapis oak]

doesn't matter

the requirement is still a nohit

tbh I don't like it

[modern grove]

As god intended.

[lyric trellis]

It’s not great, night is relatively good though yeah

Nobody fights current rev day eol anyway so they wouldn’t know

[lapis oak]

hey I fought it

don't do me like that

[boreal edge]

Thankfully you're not real

[vivid hemlock]

true

the world would be alot worse

[gleaming haven]

What future addition are you most looking forward to?

[fathom girder]

SSO in its entirety

too bad it isn't releasing for another five years

[summer shore]

I wanna see arsenal reworks

[lapis oak]

I just think every attacks being oneshot is just meh

and locked behind it is like 1 weapon, which is even more meh (not even OP)

[amber egret]

im excited to fight bosses that look cool

like wrath of the gods :)

[fathom girder]

Lucille's stuff has its own style

[lapis oak]

(not taking RDR and Fabsolution AI into account)

[fathom girder]

not sure anything could really compare

[amber egret]

i really just like things that are cool :)))

im autistic as shit

you show me a really really cool bullet pattern and im gonna cackle madly

future cal seems to do that :D

I KNEW THAT UPDATE HAD AMIDIAS IN IT

[tropic jolt]

[amber egret]

I KNEW THAT VOID HAD CHAINS ON IT

[versed tendon]

I was just thinking about him, lol

[amber egret]

idk why thats my vocal stim

"I KNEW THAT DOOR HAD A LOCK ON IT"

[dull heart]

Personally I am excited for [redacted]

[fathom girder]

probably talkin' about DoG's new text boxes

[deft lily]

probably talking about when merk kills every other dev.

(probably)

[versed tendon]

Undertale collaboration???8?8?8?88?

[tropic jolt]

the D in gaster stands for doze

[fallen olive]

👃

those who nose

[fathom girder]

DoG rework turned him into a turn based fight

[deft lily]

DoG rework turns him into a Dog

"what da dog doing"

[lusty stirrup]

spoile

[lean relic]

sso and 1.4.5
Which one will release first

relogic said 1.4.5 release is somewhere in january

[dusk bronze]

1.4.5

no contest

[fathom girder]

SSO isn't real

devs already said it was cancelled like four months ago

[obtuse hawk]

True

[soft dome]

Oh man, how come ankh shield was removed from any craft tree. Kinda feels like it's useless now. 🙁

I get if they wanted to nerf asguards valor but having long craft trees is I feel a core part of calamity

[spark kiln]

yea it’s lame af

[still bluff]

SSO September-October

[dusk bronze]

it'll get its own upgrade line

[lean relic]

It will get its own tree

[dusk bronze]

also the second half is just wrong??

[soft dome]

Oh nice. They said this somewhere?

[dusk bronze]

if you want giant trees play fargos

[dusk bronze]

yeah

here

[soft dome]

Cool

[soft dome]

Nah thats different

[spark kiln]

no calamity has had big crafting trees too

[soft dome]

I'm talkin stuff like biome blade

Ye

[spark kiln]

still has some but less

[terse dew]

we should add time gates to recipes

[fringe quiver]

Pulse Raptor

[terse dew]

just to screw over more players 😈

[dusk bronze]

Snailrook

[terse dew]

#evil like that

[orchid finch]

merkalto the gatekeep

[spark kiln]

i still think watering down the auric bar recipe was bad

[orchid finch]

now we need someone to gaslight and to girlboss

[soft dome]

Is this a release time frame confession or am I just gullible?????¿

[fathom girder]

Warframe called

They want their shitty idea back

[spark kiln]

unless you think it’s gonna take another year i don’t think so

[orchid finch]

my sibling in christ you do know it's December already don't you?

[dusk bronze]

it will release september 2025

[orchid finch]

anyway no it's just a local meme

[terse dew]

it will release in the year 7

[orchid finch]

the whole community has gone insane because of waiting for SSO

[soft dome]

Ahhh next year next year

[orchid finch]

the release window is actually unknown

[terse dew]

the year 7 was 2025 years ago I think

[still bluff]

No SSO will release in September-October 2025

[orchid finch]

so don't make no assumptions

[fathom girder]

Sso isn't releasing

Until it does release

[soft dome]

Now thats a fact

[fathom girder]

Which is probably never

[fathom girder]

So go nuts

[still bluff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/770382926545813515/1128870458889085129/image0-4.gif

[orchid finch]

it isn't! my dad is working on the sunken sea worldgen!

liar liar pants on fire sso will be real

[fathom girder]

Uh huh

[soft dome]

AAAHAAAHAAAH HEEEELP I'M ON FIIREEE HEEEEELP HEEEEEEEEEELP 👖🔥🔥🔥

[orchid finch]

god bless

[fathom girder]

Walk it off

[soft dome]

HOW YOU BURNED MY LEGS TO THE GROUND

[fathom girder]

That's not my problem

[soft dome]

Thats it i'm making my own mod this one sucks

[orchid finch]

I tried to make my own mod once

it later died of demotivation

[dull heart]

First time?

[deft lily]

80% of terraria mods:

[dull heart]

100% of terraria mods begin that way

Just some do well

[barren hollow]

At least cal didn't end that way

[dull heart]

of all the mods to win the mod wars it was one helmed by Fabsol

[barren hollow]

Bad people can do good things, and while they may have started it better folks will finish it

[deft lily]

Because nobody wants to give smaller, and frankly, more interesting mods a chance and instead constantly compare everything to calamity

[dull heart]

i think there's a little more to it than that

like realistically a big part of it is marketing

a lot of mods that stay small nobody knows because they make no publicity

[deft lily]

Well, yeah
literally the only reason calamity got popular was because of the soundtrack. you CANNOT tell me otherwise.

[dull heart]

getting publicty by word of mouth alone requires a mod to be really good

or at least part of a mod

like the soundtrack

that's the biggest thing I need to figure out when it comes to my mod roots

i have no idea how to get it out there

[barren hollow]

Or be thrown it with a modpack that you learn just gives absurdly broken items and accessories (secrets of the shadows)

[deft lily]

and it kind of pisses me off that there are folks ive seen in the space who like to pretend that this isn't the case.

[dull heart]

i know when it's done it'll be a great mod a lot of people will want and enjoy i just need to get it seen

[dull heart]

okay well it's not really the only thing

it's one of two major things

• The soundtrack
• The sheer quantity of content

[deft lily]

ok fair.
the quantity of content is a big factor

on that note though, with how ass a lot of the current content in the mod is, I don't really see a real reason to like it.

but, that's just my opinion.

[deft lily]

and this isn't to throw shade at any dev either. It's just that a good chunck of calamity does not live up to modern modded terraria standards.

but this has been talked abt to death atp.

[tropic jolt]

💔

[deft lily]

Hi cyver.

[tropic jolt]

hi

[barren hollow]

In all fairness I don't have much experience with other mods, but I'm kinda one of the people that tries other mods and just wishes it was more like cal. In all fairness that's a toxic way to play them but nothing else besides calamity and it's add-ons that gives me the same enjoyment especially post moonlord content.

[deft lily]

Yeah.
That's a horrible way to think about it.

Not every mod has to be "the next Calamity" or whatever tf.

[tropic jolt]

yeah I really dislike how judgemental the community tends to be towards new mod creators

I guess thats just how it is though

[deft lily]

I still stand by the fact the only reason Calamity gets glazed hard nowadays is because...

||you guessed it! the soundtrack||

[barren hollow]

I don't have music... I don't know why but I haven't for awhile so

[woeful pagoda]

DM DOKURO cooked, what can we do

[tropic jolt]

the music has definitely carried calamities relevance and brought new players into trying modded

[woeful pagoda]

Facts

I started playing Calamity just by the music

[frigid pebble]

Modern Calamity content is peak what are you on about

The old shit is well, shit though I agree.

[dusk bronze]

it's really mid actually

right now

[tropic jolt]

most of the content in the mod is old 😭

especially bosses

[woeful pagoda]

it's still absolutely peak

[barren hollow]

I did play mod of redemption and I'm honestly super excited for that to fully release. And I plan to try a new one after this playthrough

[fringe quiver]

gear is cool

[frigid pebble]

I mean that there is certainly stuff to glaze about calamity

[fringe quiver]

usually

music's good

uhhhh

uhhhhhhhhh

i like the blocks and tiles and such

some of them are really nice and i like building with them

:)

[woeful pagoda]

[deft lily]

Idc if you like his Calamity work or not tbh. I just think its extremely weird that people martyr him and is work like he was the 2nd coming of christ, which leads to other terraria mods getting judged based on that standard.

it's extremely unsettling lmao.

[frigid pebble]

the character design is delicious

[fringe quiver]

the lore's cool i'm a big lore nerd! unfortunately it is implemented pretty poorly within the actual mod right now so uhm

[dusk bronze]

five hundred dev statements

[fringe quiver]

five. hundred. dev statements

sunken sea overhaul is taking too long pumpkin deltarune meme funny

save me

[deft lily]

I hope this is a ragebait.

[woeful pagoda]

It is what happens, what can we do?

A big shot like Calamity will raise the bar

[fringe quiver]

see that's the funny thing people don't just criticize others work or give feedback they act as if it was worse just becasue it's Not Dokuro and it's really toxic actually

[deft lily]

Idk... maybe don't martyr him??????

[fringe quiver]

It's not always the case

But it happens

[tropic jolt]

dm dokuro died for our sins ✝️ 😔

[deft lily]

It's that fucking simple.

[fringe quiver]

You can like Dokuro's work while still beng like

Normal about other artists and their work

[woeful pagoda]

It isn't that fucking simple mate, you cannot just magically change the opinions of thousands of people.

[deft lily]

Yeah
It sucks.

hpu

[fringe quiver]

If you want to give feedback to someone (Ideally, in a constructive way) you should give them feedback based on the actual merits and potential flaws of their work not

It's not this Other Guy

so it's Worse

[fringe quiver]

By this logic

[deft lily]

Not what I'm saying

[fringe quiver]

You cannot criticize anything ever

[deft lily]

^

[woeful pagoda]

Didn't say that

[fringe quiver]

Yeah, but it is following that logic

Umbara is criticizing a behavior

You are saying it is pointless to do so as it cannot change everyone's mind

Thus, criticizing is pointless

:thumby:

[woeful pagoda]

Buddy that still does not mean criticizing is useless

[fringe quiver]

It is simply speaking up about an issue

People are free to do so if they wish

[woeful pagoda]

👍

[deft lily]

And issue that, in turn, leads to artists, musicians, etc being chased away from this community because of said behavior.

[woeful pagoda]

What I stated is just a fact, not commanding a certain logic.

[deft lily]

😓

[frigid pebble]

Honestly your kind of right actually, I live in the headspace of what calamity will be. The mod on its own is pretty awful rn and I lowkey forget that.

[deft lily]

Bruh 💀

[dusk bronze]

[fringe quiver]

sunken sea overhaul please come out im begging free me

release me

the wulfrum dogs are devouring me

[deft lily]

devourer them back

(idk)

[white vigil]

He did BUT it wouldn’t be a terrible idea to get some newer compositions in the mod for some older songs he’s made

[frigid pebble]

By "modern content" I meant mostly stuff that doesn't exist yet in the actuall mod lol

[fringe quiver]

Ok to be fair it kind of would

It kind of would be actually

[deft lily]

^

[fringe quiver]

Unless those songs were added rather than replacing his previous ones

Like say

Evil2 gets moved to post moon lord and gets a p hase 2 theme

stuff like that

[woeful pagoda]

I don't disagree with this, a change of pace could be good

[barren hollow]

I'll be honest I really don't get what makes the game so bad right now? I like 95% of the bosses infurnum or not. Most of the weapons are honestly really cool. There's a few things that could be balanced a bit better but what is really all that bad

[fringe quiver]

Y'see

replacing dokuro's songs is the single worst business decision calamity could do ever

[white vigil]

Yeah, or maybe if someone is ambitious enough we can have like two official soundtracks for calamity like how ancients awoken is doing

[deft lily]

Yep

[white vigil]

And you can choose which one you’d rather listen too

[deft lily]

F*bsol

[fringe quiver]

I think people forget this is the most, or atleast one of the most popular mods of all time and that there's an actual side of business logic to developing it since it's partially sustained by the funding it gets through patreon and merch sales

[tropic jolt]

starved, abandoned, left to suffer

[fringe quiver]

Replacing Dokuro's songs would be t errible for said business logic

Like this mod is literally too big of a deal to be purely sustained by passion, devs kind of actually get paid and shi 😭

[deft lily]

But that's not a can of worms that I feel like opening, when it's already been opened 291491924 times already

[frigid pebble]

Don't get me wrong I'm totally a calamity glazer, its just that the overall state of the standalone mod is mediocre at best. Sure the lore, character designs, (newer) art, music, and a lot of the weapons are insanely peak, but the gameplay especially is extremely lacking even with Infernum to fix the bosses.

[fringe quiver]

fabsol is like the devourer of gods but instead of devouring gods he devoured good game design

shat it out as new difficulty mode

[dusk bronze]

[fringe quiver]

i am a machine that turns nay actually cool ideas my devs have into shitty new difficulty

[deft lily]

And other peoples creative passions.

[frigid pebble]

Calamity is like the coolest thing ever except it doesn't exist yet for the most part

[white vigil]

I thought the devs weren’t paid and they did this on the side for the fun of creation

[deft lily]

They weren't paid when Fabsol owned the project.

[white vigil]

Are they paid to an extent now?

[fringe quiver]

It is not an actual job as in they get a salary but they are paid for their work to an extent yes

Comission based somewhat

[dusk bronze]

[fringe quiver]

It is partially driven by passion but is partially actually paid work

Mix of both

[barren hollow]

I mean compared to what. The only higher standards I've seen are from add-ons. Mod of redemption is the only thing I've seen that comes close (and maybe stars above) even thorium in my opinion is lower on my tierlist

[fringe quiver]

Oh dear

[tropic jolt]

Oh deer 🦌

[dusk bronze]

[barren hollow]

Damn that bad of a take?

[fringe quiver]

The user is not aware that basically every modern mod of any appraisal is far better than calamity in terms of quality objectively speaking

[white vigil]

Thorium is closer to vanilla terraria in its design philosophy

[fringe quiver]

Ok so

I'll give you like

a list of a few i know that are just

Kind of Better than Calamity on the technical standpoint

[frigid pebble]

Alr it wasn't that bad guys

[fringe quiver]

Just. they just are

[white vigil]

Sots is pretty neat and so is homeward journey

[deft lily]

Thorium is okay

[dusk bronze]

play calamity fables

[white vigil]

What am I missing here

[dusk bronze]

World's End Everlasting Falling Whale

[tropic jolt]

I am a big fan of World's End Everlasting Falling Whale

[frigid pebble]

Is no one going to mention Starlight River

[white vigil]

I take it this is part of homeward

[barren hollow]

Sots breaks sooooooo much. I'm enjoying it right now with the rest of the modpack I'm playing but in my opinion it's ridiculously overturned even by itself.

[white vigil]

Incomplete

[misty wren]

no

[frigid pebble]

its still like, the most peak mod tho

[white vigil]

Play it in infernal eclipse

[fringe quiver]

Spirit Reforged, Spirit Classic (Yes, Classic. The Old One), Mod of Redemption, Starlight River, Spooky Mod, Calamity Cables i mean Tables i mean Fables, Homeward Journey, Calamity Community Remix. Yes. Calamity Community Remix, the Calamity Shitpost Addon, is literally more technically impressive for the most part than actual Calamity

[misty wren]

slr is still in glorified tech demo state isnt it

[deft lily]

Ancient Awakened

[barren hollow]

That's the modpack I'm playing right now

[deft lily]

SPOOKY MOD MENTION ‼️

[fringe quiver]

slr is a "pre hardmode demo" ( 🥹 ) but the content is just far more polished than calamity's yeah

The actual good modern stuff in calamity can be boiled down to

[white vigil]

I still find cal weapons to be most consistent in that mod pack from my testing of most weapons

[misty wren]

fargos soul mod id say isnt necessarily as technically impressive but also feels a lot better to play

[barren hollow]

I've played almost all of those except spirit reforged and homeward journey

[fringe quiver]

• Some of its gear (Weapons/Armor/Etc) is actually really cool and well made and was worked on by competent programmers and has cool visuals and such
• The spritework that goes into some of the more recent stuff is pretty cool
• Uh
• Help

[misty wren]

calamitys more recent weapons and gear are good in terms of gameplay
not really much else i cannot lie

[deft lily]

soundtrack

[barren hollow]

Armageddon will last from lux to Providence

[frigid pebble]

alr this might be a rash take but I don't even slightly see what other people do in fargo's

[deft lily]

(its in game so it counts)

[fringe quiver]

True it counts

[white vigil]

What’s that again?

[fringe quiver]

Okay so

Preference is one thing

You can like Calamity more than all of those

but, genuine question

[barren hollow]

The upgrade to the spirit fist.

[white vigil]

I see

[verbal timber]

Have you tried the mod yourself?

[fringe quiver]

... How does Calamity Fables or Starlight River have lower quality than actual Calamity currently

[verbal timber]

I personally dont say anything about mods that I havent played this counts even for shitpost mods like community remix

[misty wren]

im not a fargos gamer too much but from all of it that ive played it just feels much better to play and make builds in

[fringe quiver]

It's like. literally just better. objectively speaking, from technical and polish standpoint, it's. it's just better

Yeah no it does it's not a comparison, unfortunately

We need SSO so fucking bad dude

Devs ARE cooking i know this you saw the brain teaser

[dusk bronze]

sir nautilus fight is the most fun i've ever had in terraria

[fringe quiver]

we need to be fucking free from the fabsolian chains bro 🥹

[deft lily]

Big E 🙏

[dusk bronze]

4000 hours

[fringe quiver]

No yaeh same

favorite b ossfight ever in terraria

and this is coming

from someone who has said multiple times before she dosen't really enjoy terraria combat allat much

[deft lily]

Huh

Sir Nautilus is that good?

[fringe quiver]

He's just such a guy.

[deft lily]

I see.

[fringe quiver]

Very well designed fight

[frigid pebble]

I haven't gotten very far to be honest but I agree that the gameplay structure is more complete than calamity, my complaints mostly stem from things I don't need to play the mod myself to understand

[fringe quiver]

Plays off extremely well of the fairly weak/low mobility you have on the earylgame you fight him in

Unique moveset consisting of attacks that need you to dodge them in different ways that make the fight not feel repetitive/stale and keep you engage

[barren hollow]

So... I guess I didn't mention I like playing mods that have close to a full list of content. Fables when I last played had 2 or 3 bosses. And same with starlight river. Once they get to at least hardmode and maybe up to moonlord without a doubt but they released about a year ago so it will be a very very hot minute before they are up to where cal is right now

[fringe quiver]

Telegraph his moves well

[misty wren]

like it can be boiled down to fabsolian boss design or whatever on cals end but theres also a lot more to fargos than just bosses and that non boss content is much better (or at least more engaging) than cals

[fringe quiver]

Quantity =/ Quality

Again

You can like Calamity better that is

a perfectly fine opinion to have

[deft lily]

^

[misty wren]

nothing is coming close to How Much Shit calamity has

like period

[fringe quiver]

But in terms of actual quality calamity is extremely behind most modern mods of any notoriety

Yeah like

It's not even fair if we include quantity

[deft lily]

Icl when I say i've spent probably hundreds of hours on calamity playthroughs

[verbal timber]

And this is more the case in 2.0 once we ship that out

[fringe quiver]

because Calamity has existed for like ten years or something

[misty wren]

the only mods that could died in the 1.4 port or earlier

[fringe quiver]

No mods have had the time ot have this much content

Except for like, Thorium and Spirit

but Spirit rebooted itself entirely so

(And even then, Spirit is newer than both Thorium and Calamity)

[misty wren]

and thorium always had a smaller scope than calamity

[barren hollow]

That's why mod of redemption is what I say is the closest since it has a ridiculously high quality and quantity comparatively

The other thing is I value bosses and weapons over exploration

[fringe quiver]

Also quantity is not necessarily a good thing as seen with

[misty wren]

like its crazy how much content never exists when the mod cuts off at directly post moon lord

[fringe quiver]

⛈️ item bloat ⛈️

[barren hollow]

True I mean how many weapons are available at any stage and yet 3 or 4 are chosen for each class

[fringe quiver]

also bosses. this mod ahs alot of them. none of them are gettting removed or anything but god theres. theres alot so they're not adding anymore save for yharim

[misty wren]

spirit i dont think ever even went to post moon lord to begin with did it

[fringe quiver]

It did at one point

Really long ago

Overseer i think was a post moon lord boss, aka the

the Spirit Biome boss

holy shit dude its almost 4 am

what the fuck

[deft lily]

i dont have an issue with post ml modding as long as it isn't full of a fuck ton of bloat

(calamity exceeds this too well)

[misty wren]

but yeah even before 1.4 happened and a lot of the big calamity rivaling mods died out there were only a couple that could even compare to the sheer amount of content calamity has

[fringe quiver]

post ml in calamity is a Experience

it has

barely any actual meaingful content

other than boss fights

but it also has 500 morbillion weapons

most of which youll never use

[deft lily]

kill boss
mine ore
kill boss
mine ore

[fringe quiver]

or use for like 1 boss and then never again

me when post ml despite being theoretically a new game stage comparable to the Hardmode shift has literally like 8 enemies

8 enemies throughout all of it

[frigid pebble]

I mean, calamity is a largly bossfight focused game so the endgame being boss focused isn't really a bad thing imo

[misty wren]

like im pretty sure only ancients awakened (died during the 1.4 port ish) and tremor (died before the 1.4 port) had comparable amounts of content to calamity

[fringe quiver]

It being bossfight focused isn't a good thing and devs are moving away from it

[deft lily]

^

[fringe quiver]

Terraria has some degree of focus on boss fights, yea

[deft lily]

calamity rn is just a boss rush.

[misty wren]

The year is 2024
QoL mods have removed the need for town NPCs, Arena Building, Regular Enemies, and Grinding. 16 distinct difficulty options exist to be combined as desired.
All worlds are generated with chests that give everything to you, and have innumerable world-sized platforms
The game has been optimized away. Now we may relish in the infinite bliss that is uninterrupted boss rush playthroughs

[deft lily]

with a soundtrack

[frigid pebble]

how is this an objective thing at all

[fringe quiver]

But Calamity takes it to such an extreme that it actively takes away from the other content

[barren hollow]

Honestly it's my favorite part. In my opinion it has the most fun feel since you are both overpowered yet still get absolutely dunked on by the next challenge. I'm probably in the minority but the bosses are and will always be my highlight

[deft lily]

????

[misty wren]

simple! terraria is not a boss rush game

[frigid pebble]

calamity doesn't have to follow the same design principles as vanilla

it literally never has

[fringe quiver]

You could make a boss rush mod if you want but that is not what devs want

[misty wren]

its not a game like one button bosses where the entire gameplay loop is bosses

[fringe quiver]

It is a Content Mod

not a Boss Rush mod

Terraria has alot more content than just Fight Boss

[deft lily]

it hasn't since 2016. and look where it is now

[barren hollow]

Kinda funny that the boss rush is the most disappointing part

[fringe quiver]

Notably i'd argue Exploration is like

Probably the single biggest part of Terraria gameplay tbh

and Calamity is

really lacking on that alot of the time

[white vigil]

I think cal needs more space in between the bosses in hardmode and post-ml, it all feels like a glorified boss rush with little to no breaks

[misty wren]

content extends to every part of any game, not only bosses

[fringe quiver]

I nfact it actively makes changes to vanilla that make you not explore

Such as letting you easily get items you'd otherwise have to search for or getting guaranteed spawn locations for things

[deft lily]

most cal players (myself included) uses QoL mods to skip over most of the game until post ml i feel like

[frigid pebble]

alr I can agree with this

[misty wren]

which is what calamity falls into

[fringe quiver]

Calamity's design philosophy currently which mind you, is Not something that most of the dev team liked or wanted, it was because Fabsol Liked That

Is basically sidelining all the other content in Terraria so you can speedrun killing bosses

It has several pieces of content designed speciifcally to trivialize content that is not Fight Boss and Get Stronger and Fight Boss

[barren hollow]

I mean there is no reason to explore the 3 added parts of the game beyond quickly getting the crap and going. The astral biome is so unnecessary right now

[misty wren]

its design philosophy currently is honestly a lot more removal of content in order to more quickly facilitate more bosses

[fringe quiver]

^

An example

Onyx excavator key

You can get this pre-boss iwth literally no requirements besides Find It which you can also guarantee through Lab trackers or whatever

It has a faster digging speed than basically every pickaxe until like late hardmode or osmething

[deft lily]

late hardmode is especially bad about this

[fringe quiver]

It exists purely to trivialize mining

That's its literal purpose and intended function

[deft lily]

base terraria late hardmode is already cluttered with shit
when you play with calamity its even fucking worse

[misty wren]

everything outside of bosses is an insane non-threat outside of like 2 points and one of those points only has one actually threatening enemy

[fringe quiver]

Giant hive? You no longer need to explore to find a queen bee hive or atleast hang out in the jungle for a while to get the needed resources to spawn her

You have a immediate guaranteed queen bee spawn on the surface

A bunch of rare items/acessories that you need to search for on your world through chests andwhatnot?

[deft lily]

QoL recipes

[fringe quiver]

You can just craft them

[deft lily]

yeah

[twin juniper]

Felt like it’s faster than drill containment unit
Maybe even better because you use item on it too

[deft lily]

Rod of Discord

[misty wren]

even the hardmode difficulty spike isnt one of those points, calamity takes that difficulty spike and just flat out removes it

[white vigil]

I like what they did with splitting the hardmode ores into tiers with the mech bosses BUT after those three, there is next to no padding inbetween progressing

[fringe quiver]

Ok to be fair Rod of Discord i think is one of the more reasonable ones becasue its drop rate is so low that its kinda on crack while its still a very useful item vs being more of a purely novelty thing

[deft lily]

sorry, change that "makes the game easier for no reason other then ruin the pacing of the content" change

[barren hollow]

I like the giant hive I think it should need to be found instead of a guarantee. But it's honestly such a sick play to fight queen bee in

[frigid pebble]

Ok, ok, I feel like my point is getting blown out of proportion. I said above that I agree that the outated calamity content is mid (most of the mod lol), this includes fab-bleh- design phylosiphy. But that doesn't mean that a boss focused mod can't be well designed

[deft lily]

Ehh
yeah fair

[fringe quiver]

Yeah but that's not what calamtiy wants to be

[misty wren]

it can be! it usually isnt

[fringe quiver]

And nobody on the dev team really wanted it to be that fabsol just made it that because he wanted it to be that

Calamity advertises itself as a Content Mod

It should be a Content Mod

[frigid pebble]

I wasn't necessarily defending calamity with my "how is this an objective thing at all" statement. I can see how that was misleading.

[misty wren]

like in terraria i dont think i can point at any nearly solely boss focused mods and say "this mod is well designed"

[fringe quiver]

Yeah it's a hard thing to really pull off tbh because like

wanting to rush bosses is kind of a playstyle

Being reductive towards a specific playstyle is

I mean yeah it's reductive

[frigid pebble]

word

but still it is a normal thing for games to become more boss focused towards the end

[white vigil]

It couldn’t hurt to slow down some sections of the game, primarily the latter half

[misty wren]

not really

[fringe quiver]

I mean depends

In some cases yeah

But in calamity's case its a very unreasonable extreme

[frigid pebble]

not necessarily saying calamity should be as straitforwad as it is now at the end tho

[fringe quiver]

Since Post-ML is supposed to be like the big third stage

like Hardmode but Again

[white vigil]

To me a lot of the magic of terraria comes from the exploration in early game and early hardmode but most of that is lost after the mech bosses

[fringe quiver]

yet it barely has any new content for all of it while havging like, 12 bosses? i forgor...

The world dosen't really change much after you kill ml

you get like

[misty wren]

we need to rename post moon lord we need to rename it to Superhardmode or something

[fringe quiver]

providences goons showing up on the hallow sometimes

and uhh

theres fat birds in the jungle . sometimes

and uhhh

[misty wren]

you get like 4 or 5 new enemies only one of which is threatening

[fringe quiver]

yep

[frigid pebble]

The chapters of the game should be called acts and I will die on this hill

[fringe quiver]

acts .

[misty wren]

no they really shouldnt be

[still bluff]

Godseeker mode

[fringe quiver]

haha, haha HAHAHA0PNH

dont

think it dont say it dont.

[tropic jolt]

[fringe quiver]

reign reign reign rie

[tropic jolt]

say that again

[fringe quiver]

ok im going too isnane i should go sleep

its 4 am

everywhere i go i see his face (reign

[still bluff]

Cheese you're insane

[fringe quiver]

im literally t obe supposed to be fucking coding for it right now

i am

[misty wren]

ok but like actually if it wasnt for it being coined on fandom it could actually be a really good name for a progression stage

[deft lily]

Cheese going insane every nano second.

[white vigil]

I think when they add sub-dimensions is when cal will start to feel better pacing

[misty wren]

Veryhardmode

[deft lily]

true

[still bluff]

TRUE

[frigid pebble]

the distortion will add so much to the endgame

[white vigil]

I’m hoping dragon’s aerie will be more than a final arena too

[frigid pebble]

also the dragon's aerie I forgor

[fringe quiver]

ok i pushed

[misty wren]

what else would there be for the aerie

[fringe quiver]

i pushed the commit

its its pushed

im

im cheese

[rose laurel]

1N TH3 DR4GON 43R13 YOU W1LL M4K3 OUT W1TH YH4R1M

[white vigil]

I’m not sure if there’s plans for any other sub worlds but I think the mod would benefit from at least one or two more other than the two I know of

[misty wren]

the aerie doesnt really have an overarching purpose its quite explicitly This Is The Place You Fight Yharim

[fringe quiver]

dragon aerie wont really be a full on explorable big area with biomes and enemies and stuff like distortion its the place oyu fight yharim with or i guess make out with yharim yeah sure thanks terezi

[deft lily]

What.

[frigid pebble]

actually speaking of the distortion am I the only one that wishes they kept the "biblicly acurate angel" design for ceacless

[still bluff]

Can I pin this

[deft lily]

bruh 💀

[fringe quiver]

This would be insanely programming and performance intesive

[rose laurel]

Y3S P1N 1T >:]

[misty wren]

you are a mod terezi is not you can do whatever the fuck you want

[deft lily]

lmao

[white vigil]

Might be neat to have the aerie be a final gauntlet of tough enemies and gear to try and get before the final fight of the mod

[still bluff]

Homestuck speech loreposting

[rose laurel]

WH4T WOULD 3V3N B3 TH3 SUBWORLD

[deft lily]

don't remind SSO September-October of that...........................

😨

[fringe quiver]

It wouldn't really make much narrative sense tbh and i mean you could change the lore to fit that but frankly that'd be really lame i think

[misty wren]

THE GEAR IS WHAT YOU GET FROM SCAL AND EXOS YOU DONT NEED MORE

[fringe quiver]

Also yea that ~

^

why

why did it make me gay

i meant to do a ^

[still bluff]

This server doesn't pin enough funny things
I aim to change this

[deft lily]

balls

[white vigil]

Of course it’ll take ages worth of time and effort but it would be cool to see to help late hardmode pacing

[rose laurel]

DONT WORRY 1M 4LW4YS FUNNY

[fringe quiver]

You can fix that by just adding more ocntent to the overworld, y'know

[misty wren]

you would not even be using the gear you get from scal and exos for a full tier if there was also gear in the aerie

[frigid pebble]

didn't we all just agree that boss to boss progression was bad

[deft lily]

no?

[rose laurel]

W3 C4N H4V3 BOSS TO BOSS PROGR3SS1ON ON3 T1M3

4S 4 TR34T

[deft lily]

what in the calamity update talk

[rose laurel]

SP3C14LLY WH3N 1T WORKS W4Y B3TT3R 1N 4LL 4SP3CTS

[fringe quiver]

I mean it's just like, what would you even have after those two they're literally like the biggest figures besides yharim

It's fine to have some ofi t

[still bluff]

Yharim's son

[rose laurel]

1TS B3TT3R N4RR4T1V3LY 4ND 1N T3RMS OF P4C1NG

[fringe quiver]

MALMAR

🔥

[frigid pebble]

I mean yeah I was saying that I like when games have boss-heavy endings

[still bluff]

Dragon aerie miniboss

[deft lily]

-# ...yhar?

[fringe quiver]

Yeah it's not entirely wrong as i said

It do be true in some cases

[rose laurel]

YH4R1MS SON 1S JUST STR41GHT UP YH4RH4M FUCK YOU

[fringe quiver]

It's jsut post ml is really Really ext reme about it rn but its ok theyre fixing that

[still bluff]

Final quest for post-scal and exos to overcome yharim's auric rejection

[misty wren]

as i said if the aerie has actually fully fleshed out gear you wouldnt even use scal and exos loot for a full tier and thats . not good actually

[fringe quiver]

malmar is going to be real

hgod

[still bluff]

He's being added tomorrow

[fringe quiver]

ok

did you guys know that uhm

Pulse Ra\ptor

[white vigil]

At some point the overworld might become a bit bloated with all the biomes and structures already in the game and planned biome expansions

[misty wren]

cheese are you having an episode right now is azazel talking to you

[rose laurel]

TH3 VO1C3S

TH3 VO1C3S

[fringe quiver]

i think

its getting too late

my brain si detetriorating and

helpçp

o´nb

[still bluff]

Č̣

[misty wren]

not really its pretty much all underground which is distinctly the largest area without anything going on in most of it

[stone fiber]

Imagine a deus plushie like this

[still bluff]

I need a worm boss plush

[stone fiber]

This Is The Place Where Yharim Kills You

[white vigil]

Repaint a rayquaza plush

[fringe quiver]

My head genuinely kind of hurts rn i think if azazel showed up id die

im having to restrain her

[misty wren]

surface content is where stuff starts to get bloated because thats a lot more limited than you know an entire third of your world space

[fringe quiver]

i should og sleep but it's like

genuinely really hard to sleep when you're Phgysically Uncomfortable because the Sun Hates You

I'll go try though

fare the well. goo nigh

[misty wren]

actually not third its like half or more

[stone fiber]

I mean the design that was shown is just a concept
They might still do something like this

[rose laurel]

YOU SHOULD GO TO SL33P SO M3 4ND 4Z4Z3L C4N PL4N N3F4R1OUS 4CT1V1T13S TOMORROW

[misty wren]

not counting hell as part of that

counting hell its at the very least 2/3rds of your world

[pearl sentinel]

TEREZI HOMESTUCK????

[rose laurel]

Y3S

1TS M3

[white vigil]

You’re right. I guess I’m just thinking with what I know of the sso and how big the biome is projected to become, the underground might also become bloated but with areas like the underground astral and crags still have a lot left for them to introduce

[rose laurel]

T3R3Z1 HOM3STUCK

[pearl sentinel]

WHAT THE FUCK

[still bluff]

Terezi homestuck is a calamity developer

[pearl sentinel]

god that makes so much sense

[misty wren]

sunken sea i dont think even goes that much further than the underground desert

[frigid pebble]

I mean, can you really count such curated and thought-out content as bloat

even if there was loads of it

[rose laurel]

1 4M S4DLY NOT R34LLY B3C4US3 1 TH1NK 1 WOULD G1V3 H4LF TH3 D3V3LOP3RS 4 BR41N 4N3URYSM

HOW3V3R

1 3X1ST

[white vigil]

I thought I heard of it expanding close to the top of hell because of the basalt area being somewhat similar

[still bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/747139142479249459.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=slughop

[misty wren]

from what i remember the biomes borders horizontally tap out at the edge of the underground desert

[white vigil]

Yeah bloat isn’t the right word but maybe a little bit crowded unless there’s a way to make a large world larger

But I don’t think that’s even a good solution

[misty wren]

wait... you arent a dev... you're in the dev server... QUICK TEREZI LEAK SOMETHING IMPORTANT!!

[rose laurel]

OZZ4TRON 1S M4K1NG C4L4M1TY 3

[misty wren]

WHAT THE FUCK

[rose laurel]

TH4TS 4N E BTW

H3S M4K1NG C4L4M1TY E

NOT 3

[misty wren]

CALAMITY 3.0 UPDATE IS SSO

[rose laurel]

NO

[misty wren]

SSO PART INFINITY

[rose laurel]

E.0

1TS 4N UPD4T3 3XCLUS1V3LY M4D3 BY B1G 3

WHO H4S B33N 3L3CT3D TH3 SUPR3M3 OV3RLORD OF C4L4M1TY

[misty wren]

@fallen olive add windfall to calamity

[pearl sentinel]

i think im fucked because i have zero issue reading this

[wise bolt]

TEARS IN MY EYES

[rose laurel]

TH4T JUST M34NS YOU 4R3 B4S3D

M4N

[pearl sentinel]

i think the fact that I read this as calamity E from the start is worrying but i might just be based who knows

[rose laurel]

1 WOND3R HOW TH1S LOOKS TO NORM4L P3OPL3

[misty wren]

incomprehensible

[frigid pebble]

Idk its pretty readable

[wise bolt]

u just look like yr yelling

[pearl sentinel]

this is completely comprehensible to me

hi mister breast

[rose laurel]

H3R3S 4 C4L4M1TY D3V3LOP3R SP34K1NG 1N TH3 MOST 1NCOMPR3H3NS1BL3 FUCK1NG W4Y IM4G1N4BL3

YUP

TH4TS NORM4L 4ROUND H3R3

MOV1NG ON

[misty wren]

no that wasnt mr beef that was a server invite

[wise bolt]

H1 BR0

[pearl sentinel]

we both know this is not the most incomprehensible fucking way imaginable

there's way fucking worse

[rose laurel]

M1TUN4 DO3SNT COUNT

[wise bolt]

theres defo worse

[rose laurel]

4NYW4YS

[deft lily]

tofu user!!!

[rose laurel]

1M GO1NG NOW 4ND L34V1NG YOU W1TH TH3 NORM4L ON3

BY3

[terse dew]

this typing quirk is making merkalto furious

🤬

[deft lily]

😨

[rose laurel]

Scary...

[wise bolt]

umbara ....

[deft lily]

hi!

[frigid pebble]

so many devs wtf

[terse dew]

merkalto obliteration ghost will haunt you

[wise bolt]

hi bro

[wise bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405614811500253306/1454181868285988980/waddling.gif

jumpscare

[frigid pebble]

omg astrum deus is making calamity

[rose laurel]

She said she's swapping with me but we are heading to sleep now anyways

[pearl sentinel]

homestuck is so cool i want to do a reread

which is something i might get insane looks for but it only took me like a week and a half to read homestuck in the first place

[deft lily]

i think everyone should become astrum deus

[rose laurel]

We took like

[deft lily]

astrum deus raid ‼️

[rose laurel]

Three weeks

And that's because we were very busy while reading it

[wise bolt]

explore my biome

[pearl sentinel]

i was like jobless and 15 when i read it

[misty wren]

:answermymessages:

[frigid pebble]

how can we trust John Astral Infection not to just infect the whole game

[misty wren]

oh simple tofu is too busy falling asleep in vc to do that

[wise bolt]

this is true

[rose laurel]

And of course we Kinda Like Homestuck

Shocker I know

[pearl sentinel]

telling people i read the entirety of problem sleuth in like 4 hours got me some messages inquiring about my wellbeing

[buoyant pulsar]

🛢️

[stuck kite]

here comes the americans

oil found in sso. update must be liberated

[high scaffold]

We sure its not cooking oil?

[rose radish]

no because Calamity never c

[kind maple]

Is that a Helldivers reference?

[azure oak]

yharim's ultimate attack will be to lock you in a paint shaker

[fringe quiver]

Who removed it.

The crabulon one was going to be removed eventually it was literally misinformation

But who removed this one.

@vivid hemlock Vanillin.

Fixed ^-^

[azure oak]

what part of crabulon was removed

[fringe quiver]

the part that i added that aws literally just misinformation

the Orb

i added that "In the future, Crabulon will walk towards the Orb. Do not let him reach The Orb."

I was going to delete it shortly after but forgot so i guess someone else did it 😭

[azure oak]

wrong left

btw, is the whole pirate thing for crabulon still a confirmed thing or is it just a holdover from before the horse got vaporized

[fringe quiver]

I'm p sure the pirate thing is the direction triangle wants to take crab

[azure oak]

triangle's last mention of a pirate crab was half a year ago

[fringe quiver]

Even with the Crabbucaneers and that sort of thing

[azure oak]

oh right crabucaneers

[fringe quiver]

Crab itself hasnt really been much of a priority

so thats probably hwy

[azure oak]

ok that was only 2 months ago

still feels like a very odd combination of concepts, but like in a way where i feel like they don't fit together

when i think of cordyceps, i don't think of pirates

[ionic folio]

It's ok guys, all is forgiven

[fringe quiver]

good image

[fringe quiver]

i mean crabulon isn't really cordyceps

they're both parasitic fungi yea but theyre very clearly distinct things

cordyceps aren't even really mushrooms or mushroom-shaped and the mushrooms Glow

[azure oak]

still

[fringe quiver]

glowing mushrooms are far more funky while cordyceps r kinda just macabre

[azure oak]

mushroom zombie does not connect to pirate for me

[fringe quiver]

tbh i kind of agree on that point it seems like a bit of a random direction to take but i am intrigued

I do think Crabulon shouldn't be a very serious boss in tone though as ive went on before to say this is like the most perfect boss to give calamity's boss roster some levity and have atleast one boss that really isn't allat deep and is just kind of goofy

and a Pirate Zombie Mushroom Crab certainly does fit that

Personally i'd just lean into the trippy/psychedelic vibes and the fact people adore Crab's theme and just make Crabulon a zombie mushroom crab that's also like a 90s disco dancer

you know the disco zombies from pvz

like that

Just make him inexplicably addicted to dancing. You don't need an explanation. He's just like that.

It's funnier that way

[modern grove]

Fables crab

[azure oak]

fables crab is marionette zombie

[modern grove]

(he does the crab dance when he kills you

[ionic folio]

👀

[fringe quiver]

dia sees the vision

[teal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-dance-crab-dance-dancing-crab-dancing-gif-5891399156276533334

[obtuse hawk]

Misser krabs

[azure oak]

tries to stomp on your head with its sick dance moves

[fringe quiver]

me when the crab starts going 🕺 and i fucking die

[azure oak]

crabulon's theme already fits

[summer shore]

I can't it's haram

Please spare me mysterious red text

[high scaffold]

Remember when people were thinking SSO before 1.4.5

[steep path]

I remember fab projected it to release this year if nothing catastrophic happened to development

a little ironic in retrospect

[solar hare]

actually he projected it to release by mid 2024 at first

[high scaffold]

SSO wont be coming in 2025

It was said before 2025

[azure oak]

unless it's in the next 3 days

[high scaffold]

I expect 1.4.5 to release in next 20 or so days

Which I cant say the same about SSO

[azure oak]

i wonder if SSO will be the first update to reach changelog 1000

[solar hare]

I doubt it

[fierce hearth]

SSO will be the first update

[solar hare]

in 2 years now that's true

[azure oak]

SSO september-october 😔

[fringe quiver]

maybe the real sept

[azure oak]

maybe the real SSO was the friends we made along the way

[versed tendon]

calamitas ‾∪‾

why it looks like empress of light

[fringe quiver]

SSO (Surely Soon Out)

[solar hare]

sorrow sea ovulation

[azure oak]

devs should release SSO on march 15th for absolutely no particular reason

[solar hare]

happy birthday

[versed tendon]

super speed overdrive.

[azure oak]

yes my birthday is on march 15th but that doesn't have to do with anything trust

[solar hare]

angry birthday then

[azure oak]

[high scaffold]

At least vanila update is soon

That is likely to mog calamity in some aspects

[desert garnet]

If nothing bad happens

[high scaffold]

Its content complete

[azure oak]

i don't even really play vanilla anymore

[desert garnet]

It needs to be verified

[high scaffold]

Rn they are trying to make it launch on all platforms at once

[desert garnet]

By the platforms

[cunning sequoia]

i'll prob play 1.4.5 once and then not touch terraria again til sso

[azure oak]

i like modded

[cunning sequoia]

also hi chat

[high scaffold]

2 or 3 weeks

[azure oak]

hi garbo

[modern grove]

Play spirit reforged

[high scaffold]

DoG mini rework

I heard it completely changes the feel of the fight

[plush carbon]

HAHAHAHSHAHAHHAAHHA

yeah probably

[high scaffold]

I want to try fishing 1.4.5

[cunning sequoia]

i should

i rly liked spirit

[hollow ivy]

did sacrificing the angler get removed or nah

[cunning sequoia]

next update yeah

[hollow ivy]

ah okay

L update

[high scaffold]

With fishes swimming in water while new sunset lighting blesses my eyes

[cunning sequoia]

whatever you say

[solar hare]

its garbo

[hollow ivy]

lol

[cunning sequoia]

its done

[modern grove]

Done done done

[high scaffold]

No mo feeding minors to large reptiles

[modern grove]

Well you still can do that

Just for the love of the game instead of reward

[hollow ivy]

oh okay then its all good

didnt care about the fishing rod anyway

[high scaffold]

Also reaver shark re-nerf

No more easy progression skipping

Unless you count slime god bug

[steep path]

I gotta imagine it's hard to thread the needle between non-linearity and making each stage of progression important

[high scaffold]

Does aerolite require nightmare pickaxe?

It does

Which makes sense now but not after dragonfolly retier

[desert garnet]

when any boss will be retiered, many stuff will be changed to make sense

its not just be retier and nothing else

[high scaffold]

Sky overhaul

[azure oak]

interesting that the sky update is probably also gonna be an evil biome update

cause only tierswapping either evil2 or dragonfolly without touching the other would be odd

[high scaffold]

Yes

[azure oak]

and evil2 is gonna have other content related to it

[high scaffold]

Will also provably be the one to rework all aerospec

[lyric trellis]

3 boss resprites and reworks….

[high scaffold]

Also the arsenal update which rolls out in smaller packs attached to updates

[fringe quiver]

it'll also add king k rool

[high scaffold]

Arsenal armor t1

In SSO

[glad ferry]

We all know what happens in SSO part 1, but what will come in part 2?

[fringe quiver]

hardmode sunken sea content + crabulon rework + most of the illmeran ghost npcs

basically

also elder basilisk (great sand sahrk rework)

[glad ferry]

Ok ok thanks

[high scaffold]

And after SSO2 mystery

[versed tendon]

After sso2 will ssp

Rule of continuation.

[high scaffold]

I am afraid that we enjoy waiting for SSO more then we will enjoy SSO itself

[versed tendon]

Expectation trap

[high scaffold]

It will be like silksong

[fringe quiver]

enjoy waiting for SSO

YOU'RE ENJOYING THIS?

I'M IN AGONY

[high scaffold]

After SSO releases there will be no more changelogs tomorrow, no amidas pictures, no nothing

[fringe quiver]

thank god

[high scaffold]

Maybe the real SSO are the friends we made along the way

[glad ferry]

Crabulon pictures

[fringe quiver]

RELEASE ME

[high scaffold]

I showed you my crabulon pls respond

[versed tendon]

Can't wait for crabulon army rave torture dance in gfb in SSO2

[high scaffold]

What will happen first main calamity SSO or fables adding their own sunken sea?

[versed tendon]

1.4.5

Of vanilla

[high scaffold]

Thanks captain obvious

[versed tendon]

When there's choice of 50% chance choose the 0% option

[glad ferry]

The Fables developers said they would gradually do updates. But don't expect a major patch for a while.

[versed tendon]

Wait. You said no nothing?

[glad ferry]

So SSO first

[versed tendon]

Does it mean yes everything in reversive sense

[lean relic]

absolute cinema

[high scaffold]

Im afraid that after 1.4.5 coming back to tmod 1.4.4 will feel bland

[dusk bronze]

crab > coconut crab > coconut > palm tree > island > ocean > pirates

[azure oak]

only juvenile coconut crabs can survive in water without drowning

[dusk bronze]

not sure how that's related

[arctic patrol]

[azure oak]

crabulon probably isn't a coconut crab

[arctic patrol]

Its calamity update talk

Everything's related

[dusk bronze]

ik i was explaining a potential thought process in a joke manner

for how crab could connect to pirate

[azure oak]

my brain is running on fumes and my brain ignores humor for the time being

[dusk bronze]

fair

[arctic patrol]

Not fair smh

[wooden blade]

just put him a pirate hat, an eye hiding accessory and make sounds of him doing "AHOY, MATEY" when calling undead pirates

for shits and giggles

[lyric trellis]

Can cut out a lot by just going straight from crab to ocean

[azure oak]

crabs do be in the ocean

[modern grove]

Crabulon is a far away magician

[azure oak]

crabulon should be a 15 meter tall mushroom on a regular sized crab

[modern grove]

That's kinda fables crabulon if you think about it

Fables crabulon is a mecha made out of mud and mycelium and mushrooms with a normal sized crab in the center

[vivid hemlock]

[halcyon seal]

Not bad, Pac-Man!

[lapis oak]

Nautilus is like ok

He's fine

[pulsar cobalt]

sir nautilus lowkey reminds me of bosses like false knight or bell beast

like theyre not complicated or difficult

but they are just like

a good boss.

[flint ice]

guys when is 2.1 releasing

please i need this

[wooden blade]

They're basically tests to see if you do know how to play

[flint ice]

i swear false knight was not a good boss

[prisma cipher]

Check pins

[prisma cipher]

Liar liar pants on fire

[flint ice]

so theres not even a general idea

[prisma cipher]

Nop

[fallen olive]

So true 🙏

[flint ice]

please developer i need this

i want to start a playthrough with my friends but i canttt

because what if 2.1 releases right after we finish

[prisma cipher]

You can

[fallen olive]

True something could release any moment you never really know

[flint ice]

exactly

[fallen olive]

Well until you do know

[flint ice]

i dont want to be burnt out by the time the update releases

[prisma cipher]

Then play it later

[flint ice]

ill kill you

[prisma cipher]

[flint ice]

please 2.1 i need this

[flint ice]

wait so even if the update is tmrw we wouldnt know at al

???

[prisma cipher]

Probably not no

[flint ice]

so what you are saying

is the update is definitely tomorrow

[prisma cipher]

The update is prob not 2025

[versed tendon]

Deltarune tomorrow

[prisma cipher]

TRUE

[fallen olive]

Idt we have plans to shadow drop an update, y'all will probably have a couple weeks notice

[prisma cipher]

1.4.5 will release on New Year’s Day as well as deltarune chapter 5 AND sso

Trust

[flint ice]

i have a big reward for you when you release it

👅

[versed tendon]

Bro gone wild

[fallen olive]

HUH

[versed tendon]

💀

[dull heart]

before 2.2

[fallen olive]

TRUE

[dull heart]

this is correct

[versed tendon]

Gd 2.2 already released

[flint ice]

https://tenor.com/view/lying-wong-gif-7845920779899236663

woah

[dull heart]

we plan to release a trailer likely a week or so before the update

[prisma cipher]

The rot

[dull heart]

maybe a couple weeks

[flint ice]

so what you are saying is that the update has already been released but we just dont know

[dull heart]

maybe

[flint ice]

nice

[prisma cipher]

Doze you should release the trailer a week after the update

[fallen olive]

Yeah it's on the workshop under a secret name... It's called Calamity: Community Remix 😈

[cunning sequoia]

doze you should release the trailer but not the update

[prisma cipher]

Best update in calamity history

Doze you should give a trailer of new calamity update and it’s just a video of a cute cats

[versed tendon]

Video with a scal on thumbnail but inside crabroll

[azure oak]

even simply a teaser for the trailer would make people go nuts

[tribal isle]

Calamity mod 2.2 will take the same time as gd 2.2

[bright crane]

Seen the calclone arena, it looks pretty nice, and I love the new attack vfx

[subtle pagoda]

please tell me they're respriting cal clone along with the new vfx

[modern grove]

no

not yet

[tribal isle]

Never

[vivid hemlock]

this isnt the calclone rework

[tribal isle]

Cal clone will stay the eye until post yharim update

[vivid hemlock]

they dont have time to make the resprite and theres still fish to be done

[tribal isle]

Play infernum if you want a more or less accurate canon cal clone look

[subtle pagoda]

i love it when a boss has an outdated ass sprite simply because its a 'worse' version of another boss

[vivid hemlock]

?

[azure oak]

calclone just isn't a priority currently

it'll get its resprite and rework in the future but rn there's more important stuff

[subtle pagoda]

7 year old sprite btw

[vivid hemlock]

i dont think calclone not being resprited relates at all to her old lore

[vivid hemlock]

the yharon in the room

[subtle pagoda]

and i get that but its like

[fathom girder]

are we being dramatic again

is the world ending because calclone is still an eyeball

is it really that big of a deal

[cunning sequoia]

the world ended because crates got nerfed so yes