calamity-update-talk

[azure oak]

the lineup

[brave star]

Insert stock baby crying sound

And credits rolling out fast

[dusk bronze]

where miracle flower

[brave star]

It’s gonna appear in NEO miracle lineup

[dull heart]

smh missing miracle blossom

[thorny glacier]

how are you even supposed to carry this thing😭
it’s absurd

[azure oak]

:[

[dull heart]

There

Perfect

[thorny glacier]

miracle matter items are something

[dusk bronze]

am i literally the only person capable of reading the sprites

[azure oak]

they're meant to be the "ultimate" weapons, they get to be over-the-top

[stone fiber]

Put the gladius in please

[fringe quiver]

I don't think they're unreadable

But i do think they're just

Aestheticay unpleasant

[dusk bronze]

idk i like them
neuron activation and all that

[valid crypt]

Lot of colours with the same vibe not much difference give me flavour

[dusk bronze]

lizard brain see pretty colors

[azure oak]

the colors are nice but they lack substance

[hushed hazel]

yea i do like the idea of current miracle matter but i also understand the complaints about them

[valid crypt]

New miracle matter has lot of flavour like the grape crystals or strawberry flavoured juice

[fringe quiver]

The palette dosen't really mesh well and the shape languague is quite unsatisfying to look at in most cases. The staves, supernova and the spear are the best ones i think (though the spear also suffers from Comically Big but dosen't Look Big syndrome)
That's Just my opinion anyways

[hushed hazel]

of course you'd talk about flavor

[dusk bronze]

true

[fringe quiver]

I like the new palette eay more yeah

[valid crypt]

I nuked someones autocorrect by talking about inedible things too much idk what you expect

[fringe quiver]

The pallid white + dark red + reverse neon is quite the awesome

[azure oak]

real and true and objectively correct

[distant raft]

as much as i like the root motif of current miracle matter, new miracle matter just feels better

[dusk bronze]

i don't like how new miracle is just
elemental weapons but again

[valid crypt]

Fair
I kinda fuck with it but each to their own

[azure oak]

i also like evil elemental weapons

[thorny glacier]

i think i love these
i can complain a bit about gale and celestus

they look fantastic but using them on practice is uhh

impossible? how and where are you supposed to hold

[azure oak]

just use the handle

[thorny glacier]

exoblade and vortex are easily my favorite ones

[dusk bronze]

vortex is really ugly ngl

[thorny glacier]

may make sense for gale

[distant raft]

rooty book is

[teal bone]

2 spidermen pointing at each other image

[distant raft]

can it even be opened

[thorny glacier]

celestus though…

[lyric trellis]

Thought it was you typing at first, only to see you’re also here anyway was funny

[brave star]

Which one is the real sagittarius

[hoary edge]

there's impostor among us

[dusk bronze]

banned

[brave star]

Ejected even

[azure oak]

miracle hell

[brave star]

How miraculous

[dusk bronze]

miracle_hell.png

[azure oak]

this sure was a heavenly gale sprite huh

[vivid hemlock]

inanis mm is definitely my favorite of all versions

[mystic eagle]

I've always called that the Tumor Bow for no reason

[teal bone]

[azure oak]

i'd say it looks very "unimpressive" but it sure does nail being a mess

[thorny glacier]

it’s a sprite for sure

[mystic eagle]

Shoutouts to Magnomaly Cannon for literally having no resprites at all

[thorny glacier]

same for iridescent excalibur

[fringe quiver]

gets no resprites ever since it was first added
the single resprite it was supposed to get is scrapped
removed and replaced with another entirely different weapon

truly sigma

[dusk bronze]

truly a weapon of all time

[azure oak]

why did supernova even need to be so large

the thing you throw out isn't even that big

[valid crypt]

All the others were

[azure oak]

sprite got way too big but at least i could listen to the sound design for hours

[pulsar cobalt]

moonburn sfx

[vivid hemlock]

really dislike cosmic immaterializer

[pulsar cobalt]

🤩

[azure oak]

cosmic energy thingy

[vivid hemlock]

its so,,, plain

[pulsar cobalt]

cosmic immat can go DIE

[vivid hemlock]

werent there downscaled versions of some of these sprites in sscls

[pulsar cobalt]

love how post exos you have two minions

recreate the moveset of one of the bosses you fought

or

weird rainbow thing

[valid crypt]

Rainbow rune minion that spawns homing rainbow projectiles

Takes like 10 minion slots

[azure oak]

what triangle talked about for the entire line does sound sick

[hushed hazel]

_ _

[pulsar cobalt]

im so glad cosmic immat isnt better than every other option because id hate to recommend that shit

[valid crypt]

Howd it taste

[vivid hemlock]

you arent real

[pulsar cobalt]

i remember this lmao

[valid crypt]

I dont

[hushed hazel]

melon we are putting you in a sealed test tube and performing various experiments on you

you need to be studied

[thorny glacier]

pixels

[pulsar cobalt]

it was before i had a pfp

[valid crypt]

Why

[valid crypt]

I guessed that much

[hushed hazel]

you are a specimen

[valid crypt]

Wha

[pulsar cobalt]

its true

[valid crypt]

Says you

[pulsar cobalt]

melon gun is a specimen

[valid crypt]

You are more specimen

[dusk bronze]

calamity spoiler talk

[valid crypt]

You will be boiled

[pulsar cobalt]

nop

[valid crypt]

Fym nop

[halcyon seal]

the fuck's calamity

[dusk bronze]

how did you reply that wrong

[pulsar cobalt]

i think its this small indie game

[halcyon seal]

what reply wrong

[thorny glacier]

changelogarithm of sso base 10 equals to 2.1.0

[halcyon seal]

[thorny glacier]

sso is 25

[valid crypt]

Tsuki you are the most specimen thing i have seen

[thorny glacier]

wait rephrasing my horseradish

[pulsar cobalt]

says the person who accidentally created brainrot over themselves

[valid crypt]

Ok i have no counterargument to that im still confused that even happened

[thorny glacier]

changelogarith of 2.1 base 22 equals to 25

there

[azure oak]

your 2 options for post-exos summon weapons, choose carefully

[pulsar cobalt]

🔥

[thorny glacier]

wow

[valid crypt]

You are the second most specimen creature i know of

[pearl sentinel]

quite xerocian !

[thorny glacier]

makes immaterializer’s existence even more pathetic if you look at it enough

[pulsar cobalt]

sorry cant respond to u need to take care of my melon gun seeds

[split swift]

If i may be so daring, you should give it an additional projectile

[valid crypt]

[pulsar cobalt]

cant wait for them to grow up into beautiful melon gunians

😊

[thorny glacier]

harvest will surely be bountiful

[vivid hemlock]

What.

[thorny glacier]

nothing

[dusk bronze]

minor spelling mistake

explode

[thorny glacier]

ouch

[halcyon seal]

i think the obvious solution to this problem is to nerf immaterializer even more

$20 trillion to draedons arsenal

[valid crypt]

You will be ground into dust and used into making a clay pot glaze

[thorny glacier]

oh

my attention span equals to zero

literally.

anyway

changelogs tomorrow

[azure oak]

there is only a lack of changelogs for you, and only going outside for your people

[hushed hazel]

these amidias corruptions are just the beginning

[wicked pewter]

#calamity-update-talk is crazy what do you mean they recreating a blurry sprite

thats evil as fuck

[fringe quiver]

this is what happens when calamity fans have to wait a year for a update

[lavish otter]

I'm kind of surprised that so many people are in shock and awe about this, since I'm a lot more like Orios personally

[valid crypt]

Cheese who is more specimen
Me or tsuki

[fringe quiver]

idk what that means

[valid crypt]

^

[silk terrace]

Terraria of my big calamity mod

[fringe quiver]

its true yeah

[lavish otter]

I lost a lot of it when I switched laptops, but I used to recreate blurry pixel art all the time just because looking at it when it's bitcrunched to hell bothers me

[valid crypt]

Who should be put in a tube and studied more
Me or tsuki

[mystic eagle]

Kiri

[fringe quiver]

you

[valid crypt]

True

[valid crypt]

Wtf

[fringe quiver]

tsuki isn't as cryptid-esque as you are i think

[wicked pewter]

hey cheese would you vacuum seal me

[azure oak]

you missed this one i worked very hard on it

[pulsar cobalt]

that one was easier it doesnt count

[azure oak]

"easier"

[valid crypt]

I dont see it

[lavish otter]

Actually speaking of, you don't plan on finishing this one, right?

[azure oak]

was a big sprite and i had the joy of working with compression

[azure oak]

dunno if i actually can finish it

[lavish otter]

Cool! Brb then

[mystic eagle]

Witness your progress get undone

[azure oak]

good luck, this is the best quality image available for the remaining parts

[lavish otter]

...actually huh- okay yeah, you have a point, this sucks
If it was just a little less crunched, then it'd be possible, but I can't even tell what the shape of the white part in the other red leakage area is supposed to be

[azure oak]

did you mean to ping someone or was that a typo

lol

byeah i used this image to do most of it which is a lot better but cut off

[lavish otter]

That's definitely part of it by the way, because I only started to realize just how many colors are in this thing when I saw your version in pixilart- they're so muddied in the full reference

[azure oak]

at least it server as our best look as a nice look as to what the new miracle weapons will look like

[lavish otter]

Good point though!

[brave star]

Nice recreation

[hushed hazel]

i told you

[valid crypt]

What the FUCK

[vivid hemlock]

definitely you

[brave star]

It should be Kiri first

[lapis oak]

I slept for 18 hours holy fucking shit

Any spoils?

[dull heart]

spoiler: you overslept

[lapis oak]

😔

[brave star]

Another spoiler: your food got spoiled

[valid crypt]

The fuck why is this a consensus

[hushed hazel]

tsuki is just a nerd you are a Creature

[obtuse hawk]

how does one sleep for 18 hours

i dont think kiri is human

(its in the name)

[lyric trellis]

Yeah the update dropped

[pulsar cobalt]

YOURE A NERD

[hushed hazel]

the evidence contradicts your claim

check again.

[pulsar cobalt]

WHAT

THIS IS MOD ABUSE

[hushed hazel]

what do you mean

i haven't changed anything

this was always your username

you're being kinda problematic rn ngl

[valid crypt]

What is

[fringe quiver]

first time ive used the emoji ive gotten added this is a win

[dusk bronze]

add hognar next

[vivid hemlock]

[valid crypt]

Im killing you all

[dusk bronze]

ok creature

[keen zodiac]

exo teir superradiant slaughterer

[tropic jolt]

changelogs tomorrow

[dusty tinsel]

KiriAI, the Electronless One please bless with us a spoiler

[lapis oak]

NO

NO SPOILERS IN SIGHT

[dull heart]

L

[pseudo vector]

L

[fallen olive]

L

[vivid hemlock]

imagine

[valid crypt]

I do not deny being a creature an entity but how tf more then tsuki

[hushed hazel]

you constantly talk about eating inedible things

[fallen olive]

here's a spoiler for you weary souls

[dusty tinsel]

KiriAI not posting is a crime

Why is there blur

Gun causes blur now confirmed

[fallen olive]

its for when the guide shows off 1% of his true power during the climax of the Sunken Sea Storyline

[earnest jewel]

'It's Guiding time!'
Press the Spacebar to jump!

[fringe quiver]

wulfrum dog

[dusk bronze]

what's this thing

[valid crypt]

The orb

[fallen olive]

tombstone

[wide nova]

ogscule

[fallen olive]

i should've hidden a higher tier spoiler in the blur lmao

[dusk bronze]

is this the poiler

[valid crypt]

No its gay

[dusk bronze]

is the blur itself the poiler

intriguing

[vivid hemlock]

disgusting meat after effect

[urban cloak]

not a bad idea...

[dusk bronze]

just copy minecraft nausea 1:1

surely nothing can go wrong with this

[vivid hemlock]

🥺

[fallen olive]

radial blur shader yeah

[shell sapphire]

This probably happens when you summon a boss

[fallen olive]

[earnest jewel]

Guide is a boss confirmed.

[shell sapphire]

It’s Devour isn’t it?

[earnest jewel]

Calamitas drugs you before starting the fight using the magic spell 'cocaine'.

[lapis oak]

SPOILER

WHAT THE BLUR USE FOR

[fallen olive]

🤫

[lapis oak]

😭

[pulsar cobalt]

heh

i know what theyre used for

[fallen olive]

if all goes well you'll get to see it Soon™

[pulsar cobalt]

and im gonna tell you

so you see

its actually used f- wait

who are you

what are doing

NO

HELP ME

AAAAAAAAAA

[dusk bronze]

guide flashback of his wife dying

[hard copper]

what that

[fallen olive]

navystone i thinks

[boreal edge]

Hiding the evidence of your disintegration

[lapis oak]

fuck u😭

[boreal edge]

That's crazy when you think about it

[steel topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/oil-hes-true-you-know-morgan-freeman-hes-true-gif-6901427860439188859

what the

my oil...

[pulsar cobalt]

aqua rising from the depths of inactivity just to get embed failure'd

[steel topaz]

truth nuke

[lapis oak]

who

[steel topaz]

embed fail is eternal

[steel topaz]

truly

[vivid hemlock]

silence

[lapis oak]

😠

[fallen olive]

😭

[fiery wadi]

what does this mean??

[steel topaz]

where's goku

[vivid hemlock]

❌

[lapis oak]

now my mood is ruined

[fiery wadi]

good

[lapis oak]

fucking mixels in my UI

actually what am I even talking, using Heart's UI anyways

mood restored 😇

[vivid hemlock]

weak

[arctic cliff]

heart ai

[stiff light]

🔥

[brave star]

☠️

[dull heart]

the mixels are just due to ui scale

the textures themselves don't have any

[lapis oak]

🥀

[dull heart]

anyway i almost had to turn saros's base dmg down to 40

before i talked some sense into myself

that is the spoiler

[lapis oak]

😭 ??? fuck did you do

[dull heart]

with a base dmg of 60 it got a 3:43 scal 🥰

[pulsar cobalt]

what the fuck did you do

[fiery wadi]

are the boss healthbars comijg in sso

[lapis oak]

no

[fiery wadi]

do we know when thats coming

same w the health bar / summon bar stuff

[lapis oak]

no

[fiery wadi]

😔

[buoyant pulsar]

why does miracle matter have to have anything to do with nature again

[vivid hemlock]

explain

[hushed hazel]

It doesn’t

[brave star]

There’s Matter involved

[vivid hemlock]

if this is about the roots, its because when you add miracle matter to the weapon it sorta contorts and manipulates the weapon youve applied it to into a something familiar but new

fuck you kiri

[lapis oak]

no because it's Miracle Matter so the matters are miracled

😠

[vivid hemlock]

i knew you would say something stupid

[lapis oak]

I haven't even finished typing

[buoyant pulsar]

photoviscerator is the best mm weapon name

is it lowkey just a new miracle matter minigun

[lavish otter]

Because...the Elemental weapons vaguely are

[buoyant pulsar]

fantastic reason

[lavish otter]

Or they are now

[vivid hemlock]

the elemental stuff feels like some sort of alien plant thing

with the roots and flowers and all

[bright crane]

is this new exoblade?

im asking bc i see no one talking abt it 😭

[vivid hemlock]

nope

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[bright crane]

What is it then?

if you know ofc

[vivid hemlock]

just a weird exoblade dia made a while ago i think

[teal bone]

what even is this image btw

[vivid hemlock]

its from the blurry artsheets dia posted last january

[lapis oak]

last January 😭

[desert path]

this is what calamity looks like when I forget to put on my glasses

[iron dew]

has new miracle matter been a thing since january? i thought it was rather recent

[bright crane]

Dang, it looked amazing 😔

[teal bone]

all done! 😊

[vivid hemlock]

nah it was like uhhhh i think near the time fab got kicked out

[lapis oak]

awesome 😋

[vivid hemlock]

kiri shut it

[lapis oak]

fuck u I'm trying to be nice

😠

[vivid hemlock]

i see through your facade

[stuck kite]

big fixer

thinking about how much cleaner the vanilla changes page is going to be in 2.1

[lyric trellis]

True

Was planning on going through it to see how much was cut down

[iron dew]

the joys brought by the great fabsolution

[boreal edge]

I've been keeping track of a mock Weapon balance subpage on a Notepad note, and it feels so much cleaner

[teal bone]

Top 5 Vanilla Changes

Thanks for watching

[warm current]

reworked scorched earth and added pumpkaboom

LAUNCHER FANS REJOICE GRAAAAAAAAAHHH

[pearl sentinel]

vanilla changes: removed every secret seed

👍

[lapis oak]

what?

Pumpkaboom is a rogue weapon

[vivid hemlock]

its a bomb that will be used with malicious intent against kiri, yes

[lapis oak]

😠

[brave star]

Will gladly throw the bombs when the update releases so that kiri explodes every time those bombs explode

[upbeat otter]

moon walkers and void striders are such boring names

[lapis oak]

ok

[vivid hemlock]

cool

[upbeat otter]

??

whats ur problem

[lapis oak]

updated the charts

[vivid hemlock]

die

[vestal osprey]

Isn't snow ruffian rouge armor?

[lapis oak]

what you think

[hazy fog]

oh hell yeah

[vestal osprey]

Show ruffian is rouge and desert prowler is ranger. You have them mixed up

[tepid copper]

Are these all the items getting reworked in SSO?

[bright crane]

why arent other elemental weapons here?

[lapis oak]

items that will receive reworks / big changes to gameplay / visual upgrades

so not all

[hard copper]

no its rogue armor

[vestal osprey]

Oh so is snow ruffian becoming ranger armor and desert prowler becoming rogue armor?

[hard copper]

Yes

So the 2 pre boss desert armors arent both ranger

[lapis oak]

for reworks only you look here (counting only changelogs)

[bright crane]

are these also in sso?

i mean part 1

[lapis oak]

yes

but those aren't reworks

just name and sprite changes

also removals

[main falcon]

What was the cause of the name change of the tracers

Is too make each one sound special

[lapis oak]

they sound cooler is what I'm getting

[vestal osprey]

They're removing the cores???

[vivid hemlock]

to distinguish them, and also elysian tracers dont make sense anymore since they wont need wings in the recipe

[bright crane]

Oh i see

[main falcon]

Wait

They don't need wings anymore

[hard copper]

Yep, recipes that use cores can just use that essence and ectoplasm instead.

[vivid hemlock]

the early cores, core of calamity will still exist

[main falcon]

What did I miss

[bright crane]

so elemental axe isnt getting a rework yet..

sadly

[lapis oak]

nothing

they just don't need wings in recipes that's it

[vivid hemlock]

yep

thats literally it

[main falcon]

They still give figth?

[vivid hemlock]

flight

[lapis oak]

yes

[upbeat otter]

cudve used a better name

[main falcon]

No my figthing boots

[vestal osprey]

Also glad their removing rotten matter and whatever the crimson version is called

[vivid hemlock]

?

[main falcon]

Joke

[vestal osprey]

Legit so reducuntent

[vivid hemlock]

literally useless materials

[vestal osprey]

Also... rip alpha virus

[vivid hemlock]

why did you repost this again

[upbeat otter]

is this sso

[lapis oak]

bro what is this 😭

[vivid hemlock]

nope

[lapis oak]

not even a real spoiler

[upbeat otter]

i really liked that weapon

ugh

ok good

[vivid hemlock]

burning sky sucks or whatever its name is

[lean relic]

no but fry said he can port that rework to base

[vivid hemlock]

and the punchline of it being a joke weapon is lame and boring

its been 5 years

[upbeat otter]

just make a new weapon atp

its fine as it is

[lapis oak]

wouldn't say so

[upbeat otter]

alot of people use and enjoy it me included

[vestal osprey]

Is part 2 gonna be as big as part 1?

[lean relic]

No

[vestal osprey]

How the hell did this update get so big?

[vivid hemlock]

definitely not

[lapis oak]

no, no one wants an update to be this big and take so long again

[stark pond]

fabsol

[lapis oak]

many things happened

all piled up into this

[vestal osprey]

Its only been 1 year since the last update, its not that long

[upbeat otter]

when was the last time we had something about the sunken sea in the sunken sea update changelogs

[stark pond]

a year and a half

[lapis oak]

this is the longest wait time ever for a Cal update

[lean relic]

Just like: SSO 1 will make you feel playing calamity for the first time
Its that big, far bigger than draedon update

[vestal osprey]

SSO seems to be doing alot more then the sunken sea

[vivid hemlock]

right now since amidias' trident was reworked

[vivid hemlock]

thats because not everyone is motivated or wants to work on the sunken sea

[bright crane]

havent played calamity much before bountiful harvest so i cant tell, but 1+ year is a lot

[vivid hemlock]

and a lot of things people wanted to do werent an option

for various reasons

[vestal osprey]

Like bosses...

[vivid hemlock]

also its taken so long that its demotivated people

okay im being fr bosses were not the issue with sso taking so long

[lapis oak]

SS itself is actually a major roadblock

[lean relic]

ITS ALL AMIDIAS

[hard copper]

always has been

[vivid hemlock]

sso taking so long was also a factor in development taking so long

[vestal osprey]

Yeah I vote for smaller updates over time

[vivid hemlock]

thats what the devs want to do after sso

unfortunately they have to finish sso first

[lapis oak]

SSO in late 2029

[vivid hemlock]

more focused updates rather than update amalgam of like 500 trillion separate things with 30% of the update actually being the update name

[vivid hemlock]

you will die beforehand

and discontinued

[vestal osprey]

Lets hope a 1.4.5 port of tmod loader wont make things even harder

[vivid hemlock]

thats not an issue

the 1.4.5 port will be an issue after sso

[vestal osprey]

I know 1.4.5 is wanting to be released next month or early January

And it took a couple months to port tmod from 1.4.3 to 1.4.4

[teal bone]

yeah a more fitting name would be Calamity Overhau- oh wait

[vestal osprey]

If i recall, I think the devs wanted to do a brimstone crag overhaul after sunken sea

[dull heart]

moon walkers is such a good name idk

[dull heart]

We were renaming Elysian anyways due to the retier and not being made with elysian wings

We decided to do celestial at the same time bc someone suggested Moon Walkers in dev and so we did it

[real axle]

Also it leaves room in for a Michael Jackson reference

[dull heart]

Moon Walkers uses 20 souls of flight instead of wings

The others use the previous tier so they don't need winfs

[lean relic]

[dull heart]

It would be good if it cost mana tbh

[teal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-moon-walk-performance-full-rotation-perfect-gif-3519781

how you be moving when equipping them

[dull heart]

the moon walkers flavor tooltip needs to be "Hee hee!"

I need to change that

[teal bone]

on it.

[dull heart]

Thank you

[teal bone]

it is a must

[pearl sentinel]

this is clearly a reference to escape the ayuwoki

[dull heart]

No it's a reference to ur mom

:dab emoji:

[dull heart]

proper response

[vestal osprey]

I predict there will be at least 1 red pixel in the next update

[strong isle]

Who told you that

[vestal osprey]

Im inside your walls, I saw it

[arctic cliff]

stip.

[strong isle]

What

[iron dew]

why'd you like bite a chunk out of their profile picture 😭

[lyric trellis]

Hungry

[strong isle]

The Bilewater pepsi was irresistible

[severe nebula]

huh why 😭

[earnest comet]

the harvest wasn't bountiful

[dull heart]

because... 20 souls of flight is what is used to craft wings

and not using Any Wings is significantly better for shimmer compatibility

And using wings was weird anyway

[severe nebula]

nah it was cool

this new recipe is mid

[dull heart]

ok

[severe nebula]

just feels like the tracers are going to be trivialized for no reason

[raw horizon]

dont play mage
dont play mage
dont play mage
dont play mage

[misty wren]

you are going to play mage.

[strong isle]

play mage
play mage
play mage
play mage

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-wizard-money-gang-wizard-gang-spell-peace-gif-7333931153151393316

[dull heart]

? how is replacing the "any wings" with 20 souls of flight trivializing

if anything it's more likely you don't have 20 souls of flight than you don't have an old pair of wings

[ionic folio]

Wuh...?.?
That'..s not how you spell phantom....

[severe nebula]

yeah thats why it feels unique

you reuse an ol' reliable wing for something better

[dull heart]

i don't think the word you were looking for was trivializing

[misty wren]

its really not trivializing at all

especially not post moon lord

where you can farm for like.. 2 minutes and have 3 new pairs of wings (minus souls of flight)

[severe nebula]

it is trivial from there but not because of the recipe

just gets outclassed by lunar wings

[misty wren]

we arent talking about tracers viability

[dull heart]

the closest one to "trivializing" would be Void Striders losing Elysian Wings since chances were Elysian was your active wing of choice + elysian requires fighting Hallow providence

however, requiring you to kill all 3 sentinels is definitely more work

[misty wren]

we're talking about obtaining them

[dull heart]

i did think about making Seraph Tracers require Angel Wings

[misty wren]

also its like objectively a buff to them too because you dont have to use the wings part of them

[arctic cliff]

What if you added Large Souls of Flight that drop from Arch Wyverns

[dull heart]

yeah but that's not recipe tied

[arctic cliff]

[still bluff]

now this sounds like peak content

[dull heart]

wing toggle was happening regardless of recipes or renames

[misty wren]

oh yeah i know

[dull heart]

either way Tracers will be way more usable in 2.1 due to wing toggle and the Void Striders retier

Elysian Tracers dev history in 2.1 is so funny

• Buff stats
• Retier earlier in progression
• Buff stats again
• Rename

[misty wren]

but if they were referring to tracers in terms of balance (which seems to be half the case, or they just cant decide) then thats also points against their argument of tracers getting trivialized

[dull heart]

the fact it got buffed once, retiered earlier, and then buffed again

[arctic cliff]

wait

not even nerfed?

or stat adjusted?

[dull heart]

no it got buffed twice

[arctic cliff]

LMAO

its just gonna be all benefits now

its stronger and you can use it earlier

[distant raft]

finally, theyre not a direct downgrade to something ontier

[dull heart]

they're actually competitive with elysian wings now

yay

elysian has better vertical but Striders has better horizontal

but of course you can also just go the Elysian Wings + Void Kicks route

[still bluff]

in contrast to public with silva being barely worse horizontal and massively outclassing vertical

[dull heart]

silva is better horizontal actually

[still bluff]

LMAO?

ok that's really fucking funny

[arctic cliff]

[lyric trellis]

Yharon famous for his horizontalness ❤️

[dull heart]

flight time / horizontal top speed / accel

[still bluff]

[distant raft]

marginally better accel

[still bluff]

i'm dying

this is amazing

[dull heart]

if you have enough move speed boosts elysian becomes better horizontally

[still bluff]

who decided this was a good idea i need to speak to them

[distant raft]

2/3 the flight time, and worse horizontal speed
i dont even know why people run these

[arctic cliff]

[lyric trellis]

Well you do run with boots

[arctic cliff]

we really really need our godslayer hoverboard

[distant raft]

on yharon

[still bluff]

i've always told people to never use elysian just because yharon's a vertical boss fight, didn't realise they're literally slower horizontal too

[distant raft]

these are used exclusively for yharon

[arctic cliff]

i dont care if they want a different godslayer wing i want my hoverboard

[dull heart]

for comparison here's celestial vs lunar wings

yes hadarian wings are busted

[arctic cliff]

i paid for it in advance where are they

[severe nebula]

give my fingers some rest from flapping

[quiet spade]

imagine being the seccond better tier of boots capable of bringing wings to your user and then some fkn wings

[distant raft]

oh damn i thought celestial tracers were worse horizontally

[dull heart]

and here's seraph

[distant raft]

not a direct downgrade at least

glory to starboard lmao

[misty wren]

why is it 361 flight time

[arctic cliff]

actually

[dull heart]

this is after starboard hover was nerfed

[still bluff]

bring back cog sprite 🙏

[misty wren]

why can it not be 360

[dull heart]

i never updated this page

it's actually 360 now

[misty wren]

ok good

[still bluff]

starboard hover is a little quick

[distant raft]

what do you mean starboard was better

[lyric trellis]

Fabsol remnant

[dull heart]

cal nerfs starboard

[high scaffold]

Is SSO real?

[misty wren]

no

collective hallucination

[arctic cliff]

Cog did not bust her ass to finish a sprite request only for the hoverboard to be canceled

[distant raft]

was starboard just straight better than drew's

[severe nebula]

drews wings had 359 flighttime so the inconsistency so thats just part of the history

[still bluff]

does that issue with hoverboard where it broke cal ram dashes by decelerating you so quick you lost the ram state still exist

seems like the sort of thing that would be fixed by now lol

[misty wren]

no i think it got fixed

[misty wren]

and then broke at some point again and got fixed again

[dull heart]

the hover used to be 16

[severe nebula]

sounds fixable

[dull heart]

insteaed of 11.6

[lyric trellis]

I think it was fixed in the last patch

[dull heart]

2.0.6 fixed it

[misty wren]

fixed last patch yes but i swore it broke again in dev

[still bluff]

oh awesome

[dull heart]

also holy cow 4.5 accel

i kinda wanna see what happens if i unnerf starboard

[still bluff]

defabbening had one non-fab related good change

oh no

[distant raft]

jesus christ i get that its the reward for expert ml in vanilla so its gonna be busted but

[still bluff]

tiershift it with zenith

[severe nebula]

either way im pretty sure you can still achieve inf ram state with flamsteed ring

[lyric trellis]

Perfect for exos!

[dull heart]

the fact that with these nerfs it's still a contender for best wing in the game with drews

is funnny

[arctic cliff]

WINGS OF REBIRTH

WE DO NOT DEADNAME THE WINGS OF REBIRTH

[dull heart]

so true

[severe nebula]

wings of peakbirth

[dull heart]

oh also all hover wings were nerfed

all non-starboard hovers in vanilla have 12 max speed, cal nerfs to 10.8

[high scaffold]

Giant chicken nugget resprite when?

[severe nebula]

not enough amalgam resprites

give them like 500 more updates

[high scaffold]

Also is it true that profaned meatballs will be turned into evangelion angels?

[hard copper]

thats the thesis I think

[severe nebula]

tbh i just hope that calamity will eventually get somewhat proportional quality along all the sprites and ais

having a bunch of outdated stuff tickles my pickle the wrong way

[high scaffold]

Also is it just me or all profaned enemies sprites look dirty?

[severe nebula]

they are indeed a bunch of profaned rocks

profaned means dirty i think

[lyric trellis]

Sprites older than half the server members

[high scaffold]

The other half?

[severe nebula]

it is indeed none other than the other half

[high scaffold]

Remember the old providence sprite?

[severe nebula]

the profaned dirt slab?

[severe nebula]

ah yes

[high scaffold]

It evolves, but sideways

Became higher quality but still dont understand what exactly it is

Also I find that old sprite more understandable then new

Theres at least clear shapes

[uneven fractal]

stone bag

[severe nebula]

ngl could be used as a helmet/chestplate sprite if downscaled enough

[jade field]

dog ears

[high scaffold]

The respites take so long I might as well draw concept art myself

[amber furnace]

its so ugly

[north wren]

Does simply having mods downloaded (Not enabled) wears down tmodloader performance?
Cus ive noticed that my tmodloader just started lagging so dam hard unlike when i first started playing

[azure oak]

wrong channel

also, don't cooy and past it into every single channel

[north wren]

yup, someone just told me that so i stopped

that's my fault

[buoyant pulsar]

this is actually a good point lol, especially if you removed her head fire

then it just looks like a stone chestplate w/ wings on the back

[clear compass]

Ancient sprite

This was from eyeball Calamitas with no custom boss theme/ astrum deus summoning its whole family for the fight days

Yharim stimulants and uhh

When lore items gave effects

[rare rain]

thats actually the newest sprite for the next update, it has taken many years for this final form /j

[placid wadi]

Looks like fusion between volcarona and regirock

[shrewd copper]

it does

[dusk bronze]

when provi was first added he actually used music from pokemon b/w

*yes he, provi was originally called the profaned god for some reason

[severe nebula]

[jade field]

is he french

[dim glade]

Providence first sprite was just Volcanrona too

[dusk bronze]

technically that one was never actually implemented

thank the lord

[buoyant pulsar]

astral sword clearly

[molten grove]

she actually was still a she
it was like that to play into her whole paradox thing
hallow and hell elements, holy and unholy

in the end it was a bit too artsy for the average person to get so goddess it is!

[mystic eagle]

her pronouns were actually she/her back then

[dusk bronze]

thank you fabsol

[stark pond]

so

she was a female "god" even back then

has always thought the devs changed her to goddess at some point

[jade field]

crazy

i thought gods were genderless and unknowable and only given anthropomorphic traits by mortal perception

[viral merlin]

Barony update became so big it'll come in parts now

And so will Calamity's SSO

Barony's first part comes by the end of this year so SURELY SSO will too

[dusk bronze]

gods in calamity are just really powerful people

[halcyon seal]

but slime gods a bum

[dusk bronze]

trur

[jade field]

damn i am really out of touch with the lore

i thought she was the sun or smth

[dusk bronze]

i heard there's a cool new document to introduce people to the lore

it's really well written

you should read it maybe

[jade field]

im one of those illiterate anime fans

[dusk bronze]

🥀

[clear compass]

🥀

[valid crypt]

She lived in the sun and thats outdated by years anyways

[jade field]

i’ll pretend its headcanon

[modern grove]

i mean i always thought the term god is gender neutral

[dusk bronze]

it can't be

the sun is xeroc's domain

[jade field]

wild sleepover

[valid crypt]

Providence is not part of the xeroc blunt rotation

[dusk bronze]

she fucked off to hell or wherever

[lapis oak]

Clamiy

[hot pebble]

Clmy

[torn kite]

Gets funnier with each repost

[dull heart]

Hi

[azure oak]

hello user dozezoze of the calamity mod develoment team

[dull heart]

Hello

I made something cool

[azure oak]

show it please

[dull heart]

meh

[azure oak]

[dull heart]

the cool thing in question was I finished the Saros line reworks

Saros, as an auric tier item, now has a base dmg of 70

[lapis oak]

another item is now Auric tier

striving for that DoG - Auric tier balance

[dusk bronze]

🎉

[fringe quiver]

honestly yeah i never saw "god" as a particularly masc term

[dull heart]

Summoner needed it

[dusk bronze]

true

[dull heart]

Post DoG:

• Marionette
• CVE
• Corvid
• Endo Hydra
• Kalandra

Post Yharon

• Kindle
• MSB
• Lillies
• Saros
• Eventual Pole Warper rework

[bright crane]

Yeah, it's gender-neutral but mostly it depends on the context used

[dull heart]

Saros was also way too close to Sirius

Eclipse's Fall is still way too close to Vega but whatever one at a time

[dusk bronze]

why are there sO MANY POST DOG WEAPONS AAAAA

[dull heart]

I FORGOT MIRROR

[pulsar cobalt]

so yknow how like

post ml has a lot of weapons

and hardmode has a lot of weapons

what if we did that

but also had nothing to justify doing that

[dull heart]

But yeah, that makes this split 5-5

for minions

and Saros is way more interesting to use on scal and exos than yharon

saros also is very anti-summon mixing which is nice, we need more things like that

Oh and Marionette is already a slot scaling summon post dog

[lapis oak]

👍

[dull heart]

basically the only reason for Saros to be post dog is eclipse upgrade

And everything else makes it better auric

[dusk bronze]

make darksun post yharon

[dull heart]

Saros is still eclipse related ofc

It has to be with that name

Screw it go my tooltip

[dusk bronze]

p p
primordial light????

based

[dull heart]

also Vengeful Sun is now eclipse themed

because I can and it made it stand out from sun spirit

[dusk bronze]

🔥

[pulsar cobalt]

what does this tooltip mean for the lore

[dull heart]

not much

[lapis oak]

what

does it use Solar Veil in the recipe

[dull heart]

Vengeful Sun?

[lapis oak]

if Eclipse theme

[dull heart]

No, I didn't wanna tier shift it

[lapis oak]

😔

[dull heart]

So I gave it moon stone lol

[lapis oak]

L

fine

[dull heart]

sun spirit and moon stone and mech souls

[dusk bronze]

weapons that have accessories in the recipe 👎

[dull heart]

Ok

[dusk bronze]

tbh it's mostly universal genesis

what the fuck is that

[dull heart]

moon stone just makes perfect sense

Eclipse drop, and it's like you're making your own eclipse from the Sun Spirit

more interesting than using solar veil I'd say

[pulsar cobalt]

solar veil would probably be better since its a bit of an underutilised material

[dull heart]

Anyhow Saros is probably visually tied with Stratus Sphere for my favorite weapon visuals

that I've made

[fringe quiver]

wats marionette

[pulsar cobalt]

dog minion

[dusk bronze]

mechworm

[pulsar cobalt]

mechworm

[fringe quiver]

also noway radiance hollow knight upscale

oh ic

rename i assume?

[dusk bronze]

new name void eater marionette

[pulsar cobalt]

yea all the dog drops got renamed

[dusk bronze]

except obliterator

[pulsar cobalt]

some got reworked while others only got touch ups

[dull heart]

rework is too

[dull heart]

All got reworked

[pulsar cobalt]

o ok

[dull heart]

of the primary weapon pool at least

[dusk bronze]

make cleansing blaze a drop and remove the rest of the plain cosmilite crafts

then the mod will be good

[modern grove]

Always thought it would be fun if dog weapons were like not exactly themed after him but instead were ancient relics that he got by devouring gods and heroes of the past

So they're not just distortion glupshitto but smth different, with maybe influence of the distortion

[dull heart]

they're now actually designed very tightly off him

Which is good and imo the best for them

Each of them directly references his attacks by name in the tooltip

this is God Slayer Armor but the same thing applies to all his weapons with the various attack names

[dusk bronze]

it's peak

[dull heart]

This allows his weapon drops to serve as character enhancement while also being that epic "NOW I AM THE DEVOURER OF GODS" vibe

I think especially Excelsus, Eradicator, Deathwind, and Mechworm get that feeling well

Obliterator is hit by Yoyo Curse

[reef vapor]

Ifs been a while since ive been here

Whats been up with all the changelogs that are modtly reworks and stuff?

Well I guess theres been some items added and removed

[dull heart]

what do you mean by what's up with them

those are changes that are happening

[tribal isle]

does ozzatron take the passports of devs and staff

[past lintel]

50 billion reworks are just a part of any calamity updates

especially one as big as this one

[tribal isle]

reworking every single pixel of calamity mod is mandatory before yharim update

[past lintel]

[reef vapor]

how long have we been waiting?

look i dont mean to be the kind of fan who just demands more content

but it feels like the past 3 years have mostly been reshuffling content that's already been made

rather than adding much of anything new

[fringe quiver]

Yharim isn't going to come for a while

[past lintel]

luckily this upcoming one is one of the biggest update in a while

[fringe quiver]

They don't want to add the mod's final boss while the rest of the mod isn't in a satisfactory level of quality

And yeah SSO is the biggest update of all time in calamity history

[azure oak]

the update will have plenty of new content alongside the reworks, it's just taking a while because it got scope-creeped to hell and back

[fringe quiver]

It's basically setting the framework for all future updates

First post-fabdeath major update

[cunning sequoia]

because calamity has a lot of subpar content

like, a lot

[tribal isle]

expect yharim in around 5-10 years

with the current pace

and im not even being pessimistic

[lapis oak]

why adding anything new when most of existing contents are outdated and glorpshit?

[reef vapor]

there's a new update coming?

[dusk bronze]

no

[azure oak]

yes

[dusk bronze]

calamity is cancelled

sry

[tribal isle]

no

[reef vapor]

and here i thought silksong was a long wait

[dusk bronze]

no more mod

[tribal isle]

idk i play infernum

[reef vapor]

I guess that makes sense

Do the updates make it less subpar?

[real axle]

Finally

[dusk bronze]

they will

[lapis oak]

glorpshit

[cunning sequoia]

yeah that's the whole point of reworks

[tribal isle]

bait

[azure oak]

lizarb scourge

[cunning sequoia]

without them you'd have a lot of old and poor content and then newer and much better content next to it

[cunning sequoia]

at least cal devs communicate

[dusk bronze]

used to
/j

[tribal isle]

triangle is still generous

[dusk bronze]

hence the j

[stuck kite]

its time to pull out the silent treatment

the seaposting has gone too far

[tribal isle]

does gorthus know lebron james

[cunning sequoia]

why us, sister?

she made us to sink

she made us to sea

[spark kiln]

is there a reason why they can’t release an in between update with a bunch of the finished weapon reworks

[tribal isle]

idk

[obtuse hawk]

why is phaseslayer at z tier

[dusk bronze]

it hurts you in real life

[obtuse hawk]

evil odious phaseslayer

[plush carbon]

Why wouldn’t it be

[obtuse hawk]

im actually serious

[plush carbon]

Whoever designed it was like

High

[obtuse hawk]

can't they just buff it

or rework it

[plush carbon]

They’re gonna

[obtuse hawk]

waow

[plush carbon]

But for now we have this

[cunning sequoia]

they have to completely rework it

because its current version is

harmful

[obtuse hawk]

yea

[pulsar cobalt]

wheres the image of cits wrist after using it

WHY AM I STILL LIKE THIS

@hushed hazel FUCK YOU

[cunning sequoia]

tsuki the star tsupid

[obtuse hawk]

phasecarpaltunnel

[pulsar cobalt]

garbo can u change me back

[cunning sequoia]

no

[hushed hazel]

what do you mean

[obtuse hawk]

1 million years of phaseslayer carpal tunnel

[hushed hazel]

i don't see a difference

[pulsar cobalt]

shut up leon

[pulsar cobalt]

:c

[hushed hazel]

idk what to tell you your nickname hasn't changed

[obtuse hawk]

calamity fans when the fungus is coming

[pulsar cobalt]

ur TUPID

[obtuse hawk]

you stew

[hushed hazel]

you're hallucinating

this has always been your nickname hasn't it

[hardy gulch]

Why is cadaverous carrion fucking SS tier

[pulsar cobalt]

really fucking strong free damage for basically every boss after od

[lapis oak]

OP

[thorny glacier]

changelog supper of the century tomorrow

[lavish otter]

Y'know, this is a pretty good question though, is there anything stopping the devs from putting a large chunk of the non-SS content into its own smaller update like they did with the de-Fabsolation mini update?

[halcyon seal]

I think it’s so that SSO’s impact isn’t lessened

Superradiant is an exception since there’s already a decent amount of new* content in 2.0.5 anyways

[lavish otter]

Maybe, but I feel like the changes to the Sunken Sea alone are plenty enough to consider it a major update, still

[spark kiln]

that’s a really dumb reason

it probably has to do with testing and balancing

[halcyon seal]

That would also make sense

[spark kiln]

but imo it’s worth to invest some time into that so the players aren’t left with nothing for months

[halcyon seal]

I mean we saw superradiant

[wide nova]

no! you guys SUFFER until sso !

[lavish otter]

And honestly, I kind of hope it has more to do with balancing, because I feel like if it's just to make it more significant as an update...there's kind of a risk here of all the non-SS content drowning out the actual overhaul to the biome

[halcyon seal]

I think both are gonna be about equally notable

Plus there’s still SSO part 2 which is to my knowledge actually just (mostly) the sunken sea

[lavish otter]

That's pretty fair, but I don't think we have any full confirmations on what an SSO2 will look like, just the SS content that's not going to be in the first update

And considering that the first update is getting a rework to DoG's fight-

[lapis oak]

no one is doing allat backporting

Buzzkill and SS got it because it was Anniversary update

[lavish otter]

Ah yeah, I guess that makes sense

[lapis oak]

and look at how messed up that was

busted weapons with bugs

[halcyon seal]

Tbf Buzzkill’s pretty reasonable

Now Superradiant

[lapis oak]

Ok

Still 2 out of 2 weapons with bugs

[tribal isle]

changelog in less than three

[halcyon seal]

I agree

[thorny glacier]

changelogs tomorrow

[thorny glacier]

✅

[azure oak]

ares.gif

[still bluff]

aresposting

[azure oak]

not like there's much else to post

[thorny glacier]

infernum ares please? 🥹

[azure oak]

go look for it yourself (it's on the infernum wiki thing)

[placid wadi]

the animation is so smooth it became relaxing

[thorny glacier]

much better ares

[main estuary]

infernum ares has aura

yeesh
that typo and the flawed attempt to correct it

[azure oak]

personally still prefer vanilla ares

[teal bone]

This is what happens during lasik btw

[uneven tendon]

hey

wanted to ask about wrath of the gods

is there some way to make the sky normal after moonlord

[teal bone]

#calamity-addon-talk would be the best place to get your question answered

[uneven tendon]

ok thanks

[teal bone]

👍

buuuuuuuuuuuut yeah there is a way if you follow that mod's standard progression

[uneven tendon]

ik

but it would already be endgame

[bright crane]

by the way who did exo mech sprites?

[misty wren]

i think graydee did most of it and iban did the rest

i think iban did like specifically ares arms and a few edits here and there

[heavy raft]

one day my grandchildren will run up to me showing me their holographic pcs with a calamity content update

And I will smile

[bright crane]

made by draedon lol

[earnest jewel]

Will Yharim be there?

[misty wren]

no

[heavy raft]

No we will have a scal rework

(model rework)

[earnest jewel]

Close enough.

Model? It's 3D and still no Yharim?

[placid wadi]

You are expecting too much

[placid wadi]

4D rework of DoG but no Yharim

[heavy raft]

Buddy be gracious if we get a squirt of a lore drop on yharim

[bright crane]

one day

[earnest jewel]

Literally all we have is lore for Yharim.

[heavy raft]

and youll be happy if we get more.

[earnest jewel]

Then I'll be sent back into the document mines.

[teal bone]

If youd like a serious answer its that a good chunk of purely new content is either not spoiled yet or it looks like its not as much as it seems in comparison to the amount of individual changelogs that are made for small tweaks
(ex a single changelog line saying that a brand new NPC is added compared to 10 other lines of small tweaks might make it look like most of the effort is going toward the tweaks even if in actuality the NPC took way more time than the time it took to make all of those tweaks combined)

[bright crane]

i wonder how many years itd take for distortion update to release since many other major updates are all ahead of us, maybe i'll be a wife then 🥹

[dusk bronze]

3 absolute minimum imo

it's the 3rd or 4th major update on the list that we know of

[earnest jewel]

I was somewhat under the impression Distortion would be the update preceding the Yharim update. Of course, I'm aware that there's no hard timeline for updates past SSO.

[valid crypt]

Same

[dusk bronze]

the extremely nebulous and enigmatic roadmap is probably something like this:
sso part 1
some other stuff
sso part 2
more other stuff
something with acid rain
bco (crags overhaul)
other stuff (continued)
astral update????
you get the idea
profaned biome (unconfirmed)
?????
distortion
?????
yhar har

[dull heart]

For one, some SSO stuff is intertwined with the rest of the code

already

[dusk bronze]

so yeah ig distortion is up there

[dull heart]

It would be a large task to separate them out

[dull heart]

the roadmap is literally

2.1 (sunken sea pt1)

undetermined other stuff

[earnest jewel]

Probably due to how something as major of an overhaul as the Distortion update would likely be would require it to be a later thing to develop.
And what else is a later thing to develop? Captain Warcrime.

[dull heart]

there is no timeline plan for anything after 2.1

[azure oak]

sunken cost fallacy part 1
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[dull heart]

at all

[dull heart]

Distortion will probably take time because of the size of the task yes

And it'll be before aerie because we need subworld practice