I can't I'm stupid
#calamity-update-talk
late eagle
halcyon seal
maid otufits arent that good but butler outfits are top 1
earnest jewel
I saw a post going 'Maid cleaning a mansion but all the portraits are her' and I immediately thought 'Calamity fans'. This is how much that stupid joke has gone on.
We need a better outfit to draw her in.
halcyon seal
We need a better outfit to draw her in.
ocean jetty
how about her normal outfit like normal people should draw her in
late eagle
maid otufits arent that good but butler outfits are top 1
Brimstone elemental in a red dress
dusty tinsel
Obviously we should start putting her in Walmart employee uniform
That is afterall where she worked in azafure
The azafurian Walmart
late eagle
how about her normal outfit like normal people should draw her in
Nah we are not normal John what ur talking
earnest jewel
https://www.amazon.com/hamburglar-costume/s?k=hamburglar+costume
Azafurian Walmart hired children confirmed.
halcyon seal
walmart cal vs target brimstone
late eagle
Obviously we should start putting her in Walmart employee uniform
Hey this is peak actually
earnest jewel
Also, third result for Hamburglar costume is certainly... a costume.
dusty tinsel
Azafurian Walmart hired children confirmed.
Of course
late eagle
Calamitas getting a freaking job in the credits is my ultimate dream for calamity
misty monolith
walmart cal vs target brimstone
i beat infernum btw 
halcyon seal
i beat infernum btw <:aga:1307789824757071902>
great job
earnest jewel
We're discussing what Calamitas should wear in future fan art (Not a bleeding maid costume.)
halcyon seal
how many attempts, personally i took ~90 on scal
misty monolith
it was around 150 i think
earnest jewel
Dear god.
dusty tinsel
Cal will wear a brimstone elemental costume
earnest jewel
Cal will wear a brimstone elemental costume
That's just messed up.
dusty tinsel
The new sprite obviously
misty monolith
Cal will wear a brimstone elemental costume
earnest jewel
Someone pull up the new sprite.
earnest jewel
<:EWWW:1196887755746197554>
That emoticon looks more human, more sincere.
That's the poor fool who checked the freezer.
misty monolith
earnest jewel
That's the one who's freezer is being checked.
Is this the new design? (Ignore the spoon.)
pseudo vector
no
earnest jewel
Ok thanks.
pseudo vector
that design has long been scrapped unfortunately
earnest jewel
Aw, they're losing the spoon?
misty monolith
where is my slime rancher boom slime explode gif
earnest jewel
Well, I'm out of ideas, no idea what the new design is so I can't find it.
halcyon seal
the new design is actually just regular brimmy, but this time shes tinted blue and renamed to bluestone elemental
hope this helps
misty monolith
real axle
Azureaf
late eagle
Aw, they're losing the spoon?
Yes, but she'll have a fork if that helps.
Dia is making the sprite
earnest jewel
Why not a Spork to compromise?
And why is a single party member healing spell doing sprites? They should be healing!
raw pendant
man thats so much more interesting
Theres a much more interesting design by dia
brave star
Can Brimmy still hold a spoon in gfb future update
raw pendant
As far as we can tell in the blurred image she looks much more grandiose
And stylized
earnest jewel
Can we see it?
raw pendant
Instead of a red or orange woman with horns
raw pendant
Can we see it?
Its just a blurred image
misty monolith
Theres a much more interesting design by dia
dusk bronze
post the blurred ones
misty monolith
as long as it isnt just red titty woman
vivid hemlock
Can we see it?
theres an older iteration thats a blurred image
raw pendant
If I can find it, it's pretty old by now lol
dusk bronze
as long as it isnt just red titty woman
she has pretty dress
brave star
Does she have a human face-like mask
misty monolith
she has pretty dress
in the original or new sprite
dusk bronze
new
dusk bronze
newish
misty monolith
lets freaking go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vivid hemlock
dias making new ones
dusk bronze
ah
dusk bronze
dias making new ones
it's entirely scrapped?
misty monolith
i love the new wind elemental sprite
vivid hemlock
since brimmy was also affected by fab's elemental design doctrine
misty monolith
its so coooooooooooool
misty monolith
since brimmy was also affected by fab's elemental design doctrine
the insisting of large titties im guessing
vivid hemlock
it's entirely scrapped?
its different but the same general ideas i think
brave star
What about sand since it had a similar body
earnest jewel
If the elementals are being unwomaned, does that mean Earth Elemental will be womaned to restore balance?
brave star
Will that only change in a calamity texture pack-like mod
earnest jewel
Then she turns into Mega Diancie.
misty monolith
broooo the pink one looks so CUTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
late eagle
Bro this dress man
dusk bronze
there was a third
late eagle
Brimmy will be peak brothers
dusk bronze
third image
halcyon seal
i love how both of these brimmys look
personally the only elemental design i want to stay the same is rare elemental
raw pendant
third image
Brimmy isn't on it
dusk bronze
personally the only elemental design i want to stay the same is rare elemental
obelisked
halcyon seal
i just think it looks really nice
vivid hemlock
third image
was it the phase 1 one but with a different pose
dusk bronze
was it the phase 1 one but with a different pose
yuh
ocean jetty
i just think it looks really nice
DESTROY THIS
late eagle
Uurgh this is peak but we won't see the dress
ocean jetty
earnest jewel
earnest jewel
earnest jewel
Aquatic Scourge needs a gun.
buoyant pulsar
calamity devs making the most beautiful art only to just throw it in the trash
it feels like bait at this point
late eagle
Wdym
earnest jewel
If you want to bring it back, make a sub-mod.
buoyant pulsar
Wdym
this for example
whyyyyyyyyyyyyy did it not work
kms
its the brimstone elemental one with the spoon
earnest jewel
That's the image I sent.
buoyant pulsar
yeah
late eagle
How old is this also laugh at this user
earnest jewel
And it's definetly fan art.
buoyant pulsar
theres loads of other examples
earnest jewel
Like, I'd assume they weren't seriously considering Spoon Elemental.
vivid hemlock
the brimmy with the flower dress was scrapped with 22 like 3 years ago
earnest jewel
What is 22?
late eagle
the brimmy with the flower dress was scrapped with 22 like 3 years ago
I imagined
buoyant pulsar
What is 22?
the purge
hasty tangle
What is 22?
incident where 22 (actually 21) devs left calamity
occurred in late 2022
late eagle
So... we just can't count here?
It was in 2022
misty monolith
we cant read either
late eagle
True
hasty tangle
So... we just can't count here?
its just that 22 had a meme-y context and one of the devs was counted even though they were just inactive
earnest jewel
Let me guess, it was everyone's favourite mod creator who was responsible.
Are they the ones who made fables?
late eagle
YOU GET IT
hasty tangle
yep
halcyon seal
so why are the hornets
late eagle
CONGRATULATIONS 🎉
earnest jewel
Yeah, that tracks.
weak heron
we cant read either
We’re not as bad as project moon fans though, not yet atleast
earnest jewel
Good thing I have basic problem solving skills.
That gives me an edge here.
Imagine being the twenty second developer taking a break only to come back to people acting like you quit.
misty monolith
whats up guys whats been happening 
late eagle
whats up guys whats been happening <:Clueless:1057858331387121715>
We returned to the incident (again)
earnest jewel
It's been two minutes ok, nothing happened.
earnest jewel
Alright, how about which upcoming rework are we most grateful for.
To show the devs we aren't raging chimpanzees who need constant stimulation.
hasty tangle
Alright, how about which upcoming rework are we most grateful for.
dog
late eagle
The fall of the fabsolian regime
hasty tangle
dog
in fact, I made a thumbnail today for the video I'm gonna make on it as soon as sso releases today 
earnest jewel
Can't wait for official Calamitas in character dialogue.
mystic eagle
or fabstration
The Fabulous Hole Fabsol got thrown in
late eagle
Alright, how about which upcoming rework are we most grateful for.
Ok Miracle Matter redesign
earnest jewel
What's that gonna look like?
mystic eagle
[Insert Miracle Matter Kirby 64 gif]
earnest jewel
Question.
late eagle
Go ahead
earnest jewel
What is the ping!
late eagle
What is the ping!
Idk
earnest jewel
Damn, they really did that to 'em?
late eagle
Probably nothing
halcyon seal
Alright, how about which upcoming rework are we most grateful for.
new ui
it looks so good
earnest jewel
That's a good one.
halcyon seal
the new stormlions are also super cool
hasty tangle
castration
yes
flint sapphire
Alright, how about which upcoming rework are we most grateful for.
dog
mystic eagle
late eagle
I never played Kirby what is this
halcyon seal
also all the new npcs
mystic eagle
I'm just going to reply to every image of Cal Miracle Matter redesigns with Kirby Miracle Matter
mystic eagle
It would be fun if every redesign for the Miracle Matter weapons is based off Miracle Matter/Dark Matter
mystic eagle
This green thing is miracle matter?
It has 6 forms
late eagle
Oh cool
mystic eagle
8 actually
earnest jewel
How miraculous to have so much matter...
mystic eagle
Fuck there's 9 Miracle Matter weapons
late eagle
Where the second summoner mm weapon
vivid hemlock
itll be added eventually
late eagle
itll be added eventually
Wait really
earnest jewel
In Calamity: Caves & Cliffs.
summer shore
Still can't believe lilies of finality wasn't exo flower
late eagle
flowers of mortality upgrade
It's good to hear but will cosmic Immaterializer turn into something different?
dusk bronze
idk
late eagle
Because two types of the same subclass doesn't make much sense imo
oblique escarp
new GP video!
late eagle
wdym by same subclass
Summoner have minions, sentries and other as subclasses
oblique escarp
let's go
misty wren
Summoner have minions, sentries and other as subclasses
congrats, minion is literally the most generic possible subclass
late eagle
Summoner have minions, sentries and other as subclasses
Whips too I forgot
late eagle
congrats, minion is literally the most generic possible subclass
Well if you're saying buddy
halcyon seal
Tbf I think there’s a pretty big distinction to be made between single use minions and multi use minions
There’s prob a better term for that
But they’re still very different even if they use the same resource of minion slots
late eagle
The thing is, if one of the two summoner miracle weapons is a minion type, the other will be at least a "others" type
misty wren
theres also already a sentry/other summon weapon at that stage in the form of atlas munitons beacon
late eagle
Yeah
late eagle
Tbf I think there’s a pretty big distinction to be made between single use minio...
That's... Fair actually
arctic cliff
I wonder how these designs are doing now
late eagle
Me too
arctic cliff
i know they were somewhat incomplete last i checked, there was an exoblade design but iirc that mightve been experimental or somethin
i dunno
late eagle
i know they were somewhat incomplete last i checked, there was an exoblade desig...
Tobias made it and he didn't wanted to be public
arctic cliff
ah
oblique escarp
So fucking funny
it's gonna make me merge without looking
arctic cliff
i remember not liking them for some reason
for me now i think its the coloration
somehow current miracle matter items are more... i dunno, pleasing together?
i know they're moving away because that coloration is awful to work with
but that "wood" color and especially the whole shifting rainbow thing doesnt do it for me
halcyon seal
it's gonna make me merge without looking
DUDE THESE WEAPONS ARE SO FUCKING FUNNY THEY MAKE ME WANNA KILL HEARTS WITHOUT LOOKING
late eagle
i remember not liking them for some reason
There were some people who were quite critical of the redesign.
Since that Tobias stopped posting spoilers here iirc
At least he doesn't post things here frequently
arctic cliff
I think unironically they should just do Zoh Shia colors and it would work much better
basically three colors, white, black and blurple
late eagle
Blue right?
late eagle
Sorry but I don't see nothing purple there
arctic cliff
whatever the case i really love those zoh shia weapons and i think they'd be great inspiration for exo weapon set
if anything making the wood really really white might make these weapons pop out way more
late eagle
I kind of understand what the devs are trying to achieve with this redesign, I have my opinions but in the end I really like how it is.
Besides that, we only saw very WIP things.
arctic cliff
that is true
lapis oak
Besides that, we only saw very WIP things.
Saw Launcher is mostly final
late eagle
Exo blade too?
arctic cliff
i forgot what the cool ethereal sharp stuff was
for some reason my mind replaced it with "This is that insane weird material that gravastars might be made out of"
the so-called "perfect fluid"
summer shore
I think unironically they should just do Zoh Shia colors and it would work much ...
Space age pilled
I love white
late eagle
You love Kiri
lapis oak
Exo blade too?
Exoblade was Dia's edits, with fume coming out at more places and different colors of the crystal blade
arctic cliff
looking back at my messages where i absolutely hated on the new design, i seemed really hateful of the whole wood thing
summer shore
You love Kiri
gasp
lapis oak
You love Kiri
what
summer shore
I would never be gay
arctic cliff
because apparently it seemed "not very metallic" and that i really did not want it to be "woody"
arctic cliff
i still stand by my opinion that the current miracle matter sprite is an insane downgrade from the original, because its too flat to me
arctic cliff
It's not my fault he brought it upon himself <:FallWithinMyCalculations:10287182...
thats ten muons to each of your atoms
dusk bronze
~~i still stand by my opinion that the current miracle matter sprite is an insan...
flat????
brother how
lapis oak
if you don't like Elemental Set aesthetic then you wouldn't too with new MM designs
arctic cliff
flat????
brother how
(i meant smooth)
it doesnt have the rugged detail that makes the original feel like a shifting material that is partly metal partly plant
that was what i really liked
it felt like it could change its shape and morph into a new thing
summer shore
It's not my fault he brought it upon himself <:FallWithinMyCalculations:10287182...
you're mice cream
arctic cliff
maybe even assimilate a bunch of weapons and fuse them into one superweapon
current sprite DOES NOT do that justice
it just feels like a shoddy prop put together as hastily as the 2025 war of the worlds """""""""""""movie"""""""""""""
(except for the transparent glowing cubes thats actually cool ngl)
that part is what i like about the current sprite
misty monolith
i dont like the current sprite cause the colours are weird
dusk bronze
google object source lighting
arctic cliff
the object source lighting here makes the sprite muddled
its not a particularly effective use of it
dusk bronze
and
the old one isn't muddled?? 
arctic cliff
old sprite technically isnt good at using object source lighting but otherwise is still more excellently done than the current sprite
rich ginkgo
~~i still stand by my opinion that the current miracle matter sprite is an insan...
ragebait
real axle
raw, unfiltered opinion
late eagle
rich ginkgo
raw, unfiltered hot take
lapis oak
coming up next is the "ragebait" word rant from Goupert
arctic cliff
i think people should learn to accept that hot takes are generally useful for adding electrons to kiri's atoms
lapis oak
😨 ???
late eagle
True
rich ginkgo
waiter waiter! more electrons please!
urban cloak
always circles back to kiri somehow
dull heart
Hi I'm back
late eagle
Kiri blame the seal for these electrons in your frontal lobe
late eagle
Hi I'm back
Poiler?
rich ginkgo
pretty sure miracle matter is being changed again anyways
dull heart
my only thought on miracle matter stuff sprites is
rich ginkgo
to fit the new mm color palette
dull heart
Exoblade sprite change messed up the vfx
arctic cliff
oh fuck right
dull heart
👎
late eagle
arctic cliff
what i remember of the exoblade sprite change was that it didnt feel nearly as effective as the current sprite shapewise
dull heart
messed up VFX is
pearl sentinel
i think people should learn to accept that hot takes are generally useful for ad...
i think people should get a new joke
every time i come in here i see that
dull heart
what i remember of the exoblade sprite change was that it didnt feel nearly as e...
No I mean the current one
Current exoblade vs the prior
arctic cliff
oyeah
rich ginkgo
is new exoblade public
late eagle
what i remember of the exoblade sprite change was that it didnt feel nearly as e...
Yeah I agree with that
rich ginkgo
i feel like ive seen it before
dull heart
current sprite broke the vfx
rich ginkgo
but i cant remember
dusk bronze
is new exoblade public
no
arctic cliff
funny how i ended up turning around on the current exoblade sprite
i previously HATED IT
dusk bronze
it's top secret
lapis oak
is new exoblade public
no but that was an edit
rich ginkgo
it's top secret
like for patreon orrrr
molten grove
current sprite broke the vfx
i brought up this concern but heart said the effect was already kinda finnicky on the old one so dnc
dusk bronze
like for patreon orrrr
nope
rich ginkgo
oh okay
lapis oak
like for patreon orrrr
in my D:/ Drive
dusk bronze
it's under lockdown
rich ginkgo
must of been something else then
dusk bronze
in my D:/ Drive
yeah i have it on my old phone too
halcyon seal
i dont like the current sprite cause the colours are weird
Personally I just don’t even know wtf the miracle matter is supposed to be
And not in like the cool way of “oh wow it’s so advanced”
No like wtf is this
rich ginkgo
an amalgamation of random materials put together
molten grove
nobody does really
rich ginkgo
an amalgamation of random materials put together
i dont really know how it represents this
arctic cliff
Personally I just don’t even know wtf the miracle matter is supposed to be
im going to take this opinion for myself
late eagle
yeah i have it on my old phone too
I just have it by my memory 🥲
lapis oak
Personally I just don’t even know wtf the miracle matter is supposed to be
an amalgamation of matters that is somehow miraculously stable enough to be taken shape and weaponized
arctic cliff
old sprite is also hard to tell but because the vine part clearly transitions from the metal part, you can probably assume its meant to be a shape-shifting material
lapis oak
miraculously stable state of an unimaginable unstable amalgamation
arctic cliff
new sprite? it looks like you bunched a plant inside a bunch of smooth cubes, one of which is a really glowy prism
halcyon seal
an amalgamation of matters that is somehow miraculously stable enough to be take...
I mean sure, that sounds neat, but that’s not the vibe that current miracle matter gives me
It genuinely does just feel like a random shape
misty monolith
i dont like it i think
halcyon seal
Like when I imagine amalgamation of different types of matter I think of something a lot more, exotic looking?
rich ginkgo
im glad they’re just changing the whole thing because it’s really hard to pull off a shit ton of random materials put together without it being unreadable or messy
halcyon seal
Like more space themed
rich ginkgo
like i cant even comprehend or think up a new sprite for it in my head that would represent what miracle matter actually is
halcyon seal
im glad they’re just changing the whole thing because it’s really hard to pull o...
Miracle matter’s getting changed? Well obviously it is but like, is it being replaced?
lapis oak
what
rich ginkgo
i think it’s being resprited
i heard that SOME place
but my memory is really shit so idk 🤷♂️
halcyon seal
Yeah I thought it was being resprited
rich ginkgo
but um even if it wasnt idk how current would fit new miracle matter weapons
lapis oak
what you mean by replaced
halcyon seal
Whatever happens to miracle matter itself, all the weapons are pretty cool at least
rich ginkgo
a mutated fucked up exo prism
yeah i remember something similar to an exo prosm
halcyon seal
But lowkey exoblade does feel like a bit of a generic name for how strong the sword is
arctic cliff
But lowkey exoblade does feel like a bit of a generic name for how strong the sw...
sometimes a singular generic name is more than enough
rich ginkgo
looking back at one of the weapon sprites i personally think everything to do with miracle matter should be renamed
maybe not the name miracle matter itself, MAYBE
but def some of the weapons
halcyon seal
Miracle Matter feels like a good name for what it’s trying to do
rich ginkgo
exoblade sounds like a placeholder name lol
halcyon seal
At least it’s not a Blood Orange or an Elderberry
late eagle
exoblade sounds like a placeholder name lol
It's an old name
rich ginkgo
i feel like exo prisms are heavily undermined for what they’re meant to be
they power the exo mechs iirc so obviously they hold immense capability
but like, they’re solely used in miracle matter recipe and gem tech armor recipe
nothing else
besides some building blocks
oh and shadowspec but shadowspec is lame anywayssss
late eagle
but like, they’re solely used in miracle matter recipe and gem tech armor recipe
Well it's almost endgame material so there's not much to do
when they expand it will probably be a more important item
There will be the exo armor too
rich ginkgo
could be, this could be a hot take im not sure by how much, but imo not every boss needs to drop weapons for each class
exo prisms could be used to craft exo mech weapons instead
misty monolith
could be, this could be a hot take im not sure by how much, but imo not every bo...
why
rich ginkgo
it feels like most of the weapons become bloat and i’ve never understood how defeating a boss would reward you immediately with a bunch of weapons conveniently one for each class
dull heart
maybe not the name miracle matter itself, MAYBE
Miracle Matter name itself is almost definitely not changing
dull heart
As for the weapons
I think Exoblade would stay likely
I don't really think many of them would change
but exoblade is the one I think is least likely to change
rich ginkgo
gonna be mad if the sole reason exoblade name doesnt change is because it’s too iconic
dull heart
L
rich ginkgo
😥😥😥
late eagle
rich ginkgo
it’s a fair reason but like annoys me
late eagle
It's not a really big problem imo
urban cloak
miracleaver....
fringe quiver
could be, this could be a hot take im not sure by how much, but imo not every bo...
ngl i agree tbh
late eagle
It's a cool weapon
dull heart
can't wait for the new saw to have a name like superradiant slaughterer
exotic executioner
miracle mangler
fringe quiver
for the same reason i agree with bars being able to make 200 weapons is like lame
urban cloak
could be, this could be a hot take im not sure by how much, but imo not every bo...
not a hot take you are quite true with this
rich ginkgo
for the same reason i agree with bars being able to make 200 weapons is like lam...
truth nuke
rich ginkgo
not a hot take you are quite true with this
thank god
dull heart
I think there's a reason most bosses don't directly drop many weapons in vanilla
I do think every boss should have a reason to do it for every class, but not that it should always be a dropped weapon
rich ginkgo
i know a lot of the shit in this game is illogical and that’s one purpose too because ive never thought of terraria as a game to take seriously (which makes it more fun), but how and why do bosses drop all these weapons
fringe quiver
You don't need every single branch of content at any point of progression to have content for every playstyle ever, having different ways of getting weapons and gear for different classes means more diverse playthroughs depending on what class you're focusing on instead of it always being the same bosses you'll fight and same biomes you'll explore
rich ginkgo
does every boss have a sac inside of it made to store weaponry useless for said boss that the terrarian can use after it’s defeat
urban cloak
I do think every boss should have a reason to do it for every class, but not tha...
idk i think its fine for certain bosses to not benefit certain classes so long as said classes receive benefits in similar power outside of those bosses
summer shore
the weapons are made from the boss parts
urban cloak
remember that for calamity specifically we are dealing with 40+ bosses here
fringe quiver
even in vanilla like. in pre hardmode earlygame you have fossil armor (ranged) you get by mining in the desert, flinx fur (summoner) you get by killing enemies in snow, jungle (mage) you get from killing enemies and harvesting resources in the jungle
diversity is a good thing to have
dull heart
idk i think its fine for certain bosses to not benefit certain classes so long a...
It doesn't have to be like class specific gear, but like
urban cloak
granted we wouldn't like remove drops from a vanilla boss but we can make things better with ours
rich ginkgo
i think if two bosses on the same tier could split the 5 class weapons upon death as drops, that’d be good
dull heart
For example the new DS and AS expert items
Those are reasons for any class to do the boss
urban cloak
okay if its just general non-class-specific gear then thats fine
dull heart
Even if Provi didn't drop a Melee weapon, Blazing Core would give a Melee player a reason to care about the boss
rich ginkgo
i think if two bosses on the same tier could split the 5 class weapons upon deat...
example would be sentinels
urban cloak
i assumed you were wanting to have every boss drop something specifically for each class
dull heart
My issue is bosses that have actually just no reason to do them for some classes
fringe quiver
yeah i also agree with that
every boss should have a universal reason for you to fight em, dosent necessarilçy have to be dropping weapons for each class
dull heart
like Folly for half the classes has no benefits besides not having to farm Draconic Swarmer
rich ginkgo
yeah i also agree with that
every boss should have a universal reason for you to...
^^
rich ginkgo
i dont ever use the weapons most the time either so i feel like many could be removed with most people just not caring
dull heart
I don't think that's true
rich ginkgo
otherwise they’d have to be buffed or changed to be on par with other weapons at the same tier
wicked temple
My issue is bosses that have actually just no reason to do them for some classes
tbh
i think it can work under some circumstances
like from a replayability standpoint
misty wren
every boss should at least have a benefit for beating them as any class
wicked temple
if u face different bosses some playthroughs n others in diff ones
rich ginkgo
otherwise they’d have to be buffed or changed to be on par with other weapons at...
…but wouldnt this support “kill boss and move onto the next immediately” gameplay? because those weapons would become powerful enough to use against the next if so
wicked temple
that being said u can and most people do fight every boss period
so this doesn't rlly work that well
u'd need some bosses to be mutually exclusive to some degree for this type of thing to rlly work
fringe quiver
I think replayability for diff classes can be achieved through just like, as was said here earlier
not having every single branch of progression give everything for every class
wicked temple
and even then
misty wren
every boss should at least have a benefit for beating them as any class
even if you (in vanilla) removed flairon and both of dukes magic weapons theres still a direct benefit to melee and mage for beating duke fishron in the form of fishron wings
fringe quiver
Cryonic Bars dont need to make a summoner weapon, a melee weapon, a rogue weapon, a mage weapon, a ranger weapon, a lance, a spell tome, a set of wings, an armor set, an summon er helmet, an ranged helmet, a rogue helmet, a melee helmet, an yoyo, a
rich ginkgo
even if you (in vanilla) removed flairon and both of dukes magic weapons theres ...
yeah
fringe quiver
the new desert scourge and aqua scourge as was said are a good example of a way of making a boss's loot useful even without needing to necessarily make it drop every weapon for every class ever
they're utility that anyone will benefit from
wicked temple
mhm
urban cloak
🙂↕️
misty wren
it gives utility that isnt locked to a specific class meaning every class can still get something out of killing fishron
arctic cliff
its a pair of wings
rich ginkgo
more accessories dropped from bosses that benefit all classes would be nice
lapis oak
this is going to clash
fringe quiver
:true:
misty wren
its a pair of wings
a damn good pair of wings that work with every class
urban cloak
you say that like fishron wings arent some of the best wings at that tier
rich ginkgo
if a boss does drop an accessory it’s most likely for a specific class
misty wren
this is going to clash
ow my fucking eyes
arctic cliff
a damn good pair of wings that work with every class
Movement penalty in liquids is ignored.
right
fringe quiver
if a boss does drop an accessory it’s most likely for a specific class
waiter waiter
misty wren
> Movement penalty in liquids is ignored.
right
not even that it just has really good stats
fringe quiver
more random rogue acessories that dont upgrade into anything!
its like probably the best set of wings in the game besides like celestial starboard il be honest
rich ginkgo
i have never once used the fuckass corrosive spine
rich ginkgo
in any of my rogue playthroughs
fringe quiver
those too
misty monolith
hi cheese
fringe quiver
hi :D
wicked temple
ari
urban cloak
> Movement penalty in liquids is ignored.
right
you're ignoring the rest of the stats fishron wings are undoubtedly extremely good
misty wren
fishron betsy and empress wings are all really fucking good wings so even if you arent doing those for the weapons you still get really good utility
urban cloak
i have farmed fishron many times in the past specifically for those wings
misty wren
sometimes an item doesnt need 7 bajillion unique effects to be good
wicked temple
sometimes an item doesnt need 7 bajillion unique effects to be good
^
simple is arguably better actually
in a lot of cases
bc then thats less to memorize or worry about
misty wren
sometimes an item just has better stats than nearly anything else
wicked temple
n yea
arctic cliff
you're ignoring the rest of the stats fishron wings are undoubtedly extremely go...
yeah i just looked
rich ginkgo
i ❤️ community
misty monolith
so why does pbg drop like 4 ranger weapons anyway
arctic cliff
yikes
rich ginkgo
so why does pbg drop like 4 ranger weapons anyway
ranged boss drops ranged weapons brainrot
arctic cliff
this thing is better than ~~ one ~~ TWO of the ENDGAME wings
urban cloak
bless my fishron wings never speak ill of them again 🙏
misty monolith
doesnt nebula wings give buffs tho
misty wren
the bajillion unique effects are usually there to bring items with subpar stats up to a competitive level
lapis oak
Nebula Wings have hover
fringe quiver
can we get more post moon lord wings guys
unrelated to anything but can we get more of those
misty wren
so why does pbg drop like 4 ranger weapons anyway
pbg just drops infinity weapons
fringe quiver
like in hardmode you get all these sidegrades and options to pick from
in post moon lord its just like
a straight line
misty monolith
true..
fringe quiver
so why does pbg drop like 4 ranger weapons anyway
item bloat YAYYY
misty wren
pbg just drops infinity weapons
i have counted in the past there are eleven
wicked temple
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
misty monolith
they should make storm weaver drop wings
urban cloak
we did talk about pbg's unsually large assortment of drops the other day actually
urban cloak
cannot remember what the conclusion was but i probably wouldn't be be able to tell ya anyways
misty monolith
storm weaver wings am i right guys
misty monolith
ceaseless doesnt move so it would be weird
misty monolith
dragonfolly wings
misty wren
cog reference
misty monolith
called wings of birth
dry whale
old fishron wings
fringe quiver
i think storm weaver shouldt get wings
molten grove
calval win,....
fringe quiver
|| it should get an awesome fucking jetpack instead guys come on ||
white aurora
i like a lot of calvals wings
misty wren
that would be cool if old duke wasnt gonna get nuked maybe
old duke isnt getting nuked its getting fish of theseus'd
misty monolith
|| it should get an awesome fucking jetpack instead guys come on ||
TRUE!!!!!!!!!
fringe quiver
old duke isnt getting nuked its getting fish of theseus'd
FISH OF THESEUS
wicked temple
|| it should get an awesome fucking jetpack instead guys come on ||
TRUE?????????
fringe quiver
🔥 ✍️
misty monolith
fire writijng
summer shore
I need a thanatos/twins jetpack please
misty monolith
|| it should get an awesome fucking jetpack instead guys come on ||
no but imagine this but it shoots out storm weaver lightning to fly am i right guys
summer shore
Scal wings where you get her buble sheild
dull heart
god slayer hoverboard
We really should not do a hoverboard anyway
molten grove
yall are using the metaphor wrong, ship of theseus means the end result looks the same but is made of different parts 🙄
misty wren
that isnt even my original thing i stole fish of theseus from someone in this chat
dull heart
unless for some reason it boosts
urban cloak
calval win,....
im kinda curious if any of these were pitched for base cal in their lifespan
dull heart
A hover is just so bad for yharon
lapis oak
heavily rework Yharon
urban cloak
We really should not do a hoverboard anyway
yea ik im just carrying on the legacy of the joke
fringe quiver
I think weaver jetpack just makes sense with weaver being the really speedy guy and all
misty monolith
polterghast hook
misty monolith
I think weaver jetpack just makes sense with weaver being the really speedy guy ...
exactlyyyyyy
summer shore
polterghast hook <:aga:1307789824757071902>
Bobbit hook right there
misty wren
polterghast hook <:aga:1307789824757071902>
counterpoint https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Bobbit_Hook
late eagle
yall are using the metaphor wrong, ship of theseus means the end result looks th...
Ok just delete old duke and make him again exactly like it was before
summer shore
And poltias won't have hooks anymore I'm pretty sure
lapis oak
poltias
fringe quiver
to be fair it would be nice to get more post ml hooks
white aurora
godslayer hoverboard mount :3
rich ginkgo
exodium resprite when
molten grove
2033
rich ginkgo
frick
summer shore
Scal bone hand hook
rich ginkgo
noooo sepulcher hook
fringe quiver
also obligatory please let us use polterghast's giant fucking sword as a weapon
thanks
rich ginkgo
😢
summer shore
Dog jaws hook
misty wren
to be fair it would be nice to get more post ml hooks
it would be very nice we just need to nerf bobbit so we have room to make hooks that arent hook of dissonance except its not a teleport its just really really really fast
lapis oak
exodium resprite when
molten grove
coal
lapis oak
coal
summer shore
Wtf
misty wren
coal
summer shore
When did that happen
fringe quiver
coal mines 👍
misty monolith
im yearning
summer shore
killwhite
lapis oak
😨 ???
rich ginkgo
what does the
misty monolith
misty wren
When did that happen
early 1600s
rich ginkgo
placed variant
misty monolith
what does the
fox say
rich ginkgo
look like
summer shore
early 1600s
That's your birthday
fringe quiver
im yearning
born to be a coal miner forced to be a calamity player
rich ginkgo
non-existent
sad day
misty monolith
TRUE 
white aurora
born to be a coal miner forced to be a calamity player
which one is worse
misty monolith
calamity player
summer shore
calamity miner vs coal player
misty wren
That's your birthday
yeah what about it im a rich motherfucker thats been mining coal for the past 400 years
summer shore
God of coal
gray carbon
they teasing the update the same way i check if my essay is long enough ❤️
summer shore
Good friends with providence
misty monolith
they should make a jetpack that works like a bonk if you fly into it
rich ginkgo
i just randomly came across this but how is auric turning into activated auric panels by mixing it with any type of stone block
rich ginkgo
what in the stone activates auric
misty monolith
and it sucks
fringe quiver
God of coal
god of coal is evil providence that instead of wanting to kill everyone to rid the world of suffering just helps people who are suffering so trhey can be happy
misty monolith
we love god of coal
summer shore
god of coal is evil providence that instead of wanting to kill everyone to rid t...
Wrong god of coal specifically targets little children on christmas
fringe quiver
he puts coal in the socks of children's socks during christmas if they were bad so they can be better
hes a nice guy
see
misty monolith
isnt that just santa being a dick
lapis oak
wait a minute
wicked temple
we need a new pre-hm tech demo that adds god of coal with primslop and shaders and subworlds
summer shore
he's conspiring with energy companies to undermine nuclear technology
he's trying to pollute the world for his own benefits
wicked temple
he puts coal in the socks of children's socks during christmas if they were bad ...
santa
summer shore
He is industrial evil incarnate
gray carbon
i just randomly came across this but how is auric turning into activated auric p...
there is a regular auric panel
fringe quiver
god of hydrochloric acid
gray carbon
i mean maybe you just hit it hard enough while making it
summer shore
god of hydrochloric acid
Attacks by jiggling your stomach acid
white aurora
quite possibly the most spoilerous message in history
arctic cliff
Attacks by jiggling your stomach acid
50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 electrons to each of your protons for saying this
and for good measure
wicked temple
Attacks by jiggling your stomach acid
stop
summer shore
fringe quiver
alt you're losing a fortnite for this
summer shore
Noo not my fortnintes...
arctic cliff
and for good measure
summer shore
This is an injustice I won't stand for this
dry whale
Altraxia (-2 fortnites)
lapis oak
omg I just checked the doc and Dragonfang is in where it's supposed to be
summer shore
Overdone your threats don't affect me
lapis oak
big celebration day for the doc
rich ginkgo
how does this affect yharim’s release date?
wicked temple
it happens tmrr
fringe quiver
the real question is how does this affect the trout population
wicked temple
trout population tomorrow
fringe quiver
Yayyy
rich ginkgo
it doesnt because it shouldnt because trout is yucky
misty wren
Overdone your threats don't affect me
altraxia with the power of 400 years of coal mining i sentence thee to submergence in a comically oversized vat of acid
arctic cliff
Overdone your threats don't affect me
i think people should learn to accept that my threats are generally important to react to
wicked temple
stipulatevenus
fringe quiver
hi stip
summer shore
altraxia with the power of 400 years of coal mining i sentence thee to submergen...
nuh uh
summer shore
i think people should learn to accept that my threats are generally important to...
I think this joke is overdome
summer shore
you should come up with new gags
fringe quiver
haha
white aurora
you should be fed the 1 day blinding stew
fringe quiver
i assdumed overdome was just a typo
summer shore
i have 400 years of coal to bury you under i can do that instead
You don't have 400 years of coal because you SOLD EM ALL!!!!!
wicked temple
i assdumed overdome was just a typo
assdumed
fringe quiver
hey guys when do you think we're getting changelogs
arctic cliff
even if you want out
misty monolith
i eat coal
arctic cliff
i am crackpot ideas guy
wicked temple
i die
arctic cliff
and you are going to hear them out
misty wren
You don't have 400 years of coal because you SOLD EM ALL!!!!!
i only sold a little
rich ginkgo
hey guys when do you think we're getting changelogs
yesterday
arctic cliff
no matter how insane they get
vivid hemlock
hey guys when do you think we're getting changelogs
like last year
summer shore
i only sold a little
Ok well then it'd be 399.9 years of coal not 400
misty wren
see 400 years of coal is funny in that you can actually mine 401 years of coal in 400 years and then sell a year of coal and still have 400 years of coal
arctic cliff
tell it to me
move yharon to post-scal+exomechs
wicked temple
not that bad of an idea
arctic cliff
move astral infection to post-ml
wicked temple
prob wouldnt happen
lapis oak
it hasn't even been a month yet
fringe quiver
ive heard this one before
wicked temple
also not that bad an idea
arctic cliff
okay then
strong isle
Hello
fringe quiver
i dont think astral infection should be moved to post ml but i think it should actually get content on it 😭
wicked temple
hello stipulate venu
rich ginkgo
maybe we should move YOU to post scal and exo mechs
fringe quiver
i love my biome that has relevance for like 1/4 of the game
even sunken sea has more longevity than it does
summer shore
Move scal to post exos just as fabsol intended in 2020
rich ginkgo
meh
astral has 2 bosses
with ok drops
sunken sea has uhh ummmm
big fat fucking clam
fringe quiver
it has 2 bosses that are bought fought around the same point of progression
urban cloak
where are my post-ml deus truthers....
misty wren
throwing astral to post ml just kills like any chance of it having relevance especially if its a post-worldgen change
fringe quiver
Astral is relevant for a little bit of hid and late hardmode and then it gets literally no content at all after
urban cloak
🤝
fringe quiver
like actually 0. nothing
wicked temple
p
summer shore
Folly and deus tier swap
fringe quiver
folly is already pre hardmode you goof
urban cloak
also hello fryzahh person
haiii
strong isle
I think we should add Vetrasyl as a post-Gloomborf boss
stuck kite
phm deus clearly
misty wren
throwing astral to post ml just kills like any chance of it having relevance esp...
i know the mod is bad but old ancients awakened did that with one of its biomes and it had a couple bosses and you still never interacted with the biome
summer shore
Split into Dragon and Folly
arctic cliff
okay then
Turn Astrum Aureus into a singular alien who is trying to save someone from the astral infection and was thrown to your world via the infected Astrum Deus, and helps you with the Astral Infection, despite the man himself being ultra-infected with it
Then, you find a portal, he goes in there, you follow him into the portal and back to his world, where he finds said someone dead
Then he completely loses it, and horrificly transforms into a giant astral spider and you have to put him down
fringe quiver
I think we should add Vetrasyl as a post-Gloomborf boss
:true:
urban cloak
unironically there was a night i watched triangle fight folly with post-evils gear and he was actually dodging it somewhat consistently
the joys of mothron ai
dull heart
unironically there was a night i watched triangle fight folly with post-evils ge...
I'm not surprised
summer shore
unhappy
misty wren
like at least that biome had more than 2 tiers of content
wicked temple
unique ai
misty wren
like at least that biome had more than 2 tiers of content
astral realistically only has 2
dull heart
I'd say it has 3
wicked temple
p
arctic cliff
thats true actually
dull heart
post WoF, aureus, and deus
fringe quiver
there really isnt much you get from astral post wof though
you can make some stuff with stardust i suppose but it's a material you can get enough of incredibly quickly and i dont think theres that much stuff you craft with it and only it from the astral biome
misty wren
i dont count post deus as its own tier as it doesnt actually. have anything aside from direct drops and astral ore
vivid hemlock
where are my post-ml deus truthers....
🤚
dull heart
there really isnt much you get from astral post wof though
you can make some stu...
titan heart armor too
And enemy drops
stuff like titan arm (I think is post WoF), glorious end
rich ginkgo
glorious end ❤️🩹❤️🩹
misty wren
yeah we're talking about post wof
dusk bronze
im stupid
summer shore
lorious end
dusk bronze
i dont count post deus as its own tier as it doesnt actually. have anything asid...
thought it was a reply to this
urban cloak
stuff like titan arm (I think is post WoF), glorious end
titan arm is post-aureus i believe
dull heart
Deus is the most nothing of the tiers but it does require killing Atlases to fight + astral ore mining
lapis oak
stuff like titan arm (I think is post WoF), glorious end
no only Glorious End is available post WoF
dull heart
titan arm is post-aureus i believe
ah
lapis oak
because donor item
misty wren
i dont count post deus as its own tier as it doesnt actually. have anything asid...
i dont think any other boss has that limited of unlocks
summer shore
Ursa sergeant too iirc
dusk bronze
polaris parrotfish
urban cloak
three fishing items and no one goes fishing
summer shore
enemy drops
Doncare
misty wren
i dont think any other boss has that limited of unlocks
well actually theres calclone iirc
urban cloak
the one thing most people go for out of those is probably ursa and even then its a bitch to obtain sometimes
hard copper
is that LCL 😲
misty wren
eidolist technically
which is still direct drops and up to 2 items
lyric trellis
phm deus clearly
This is the truth
misty wren
which is even less than deus
white aurora
is that LCL 😲
the void ong
wicked temple
titan arm is post-aureus i believe
delta
hard copper
true...
stuck kite
i dont count post deus as its own tier as it doesnt actually. have anything asid...
this is why we need the og crackhead dev concept of astral luminite equivalency 
thorny fjord
Deus really can't decide if he's a ML alt or cultist Alt
dull heart
this is why we need the og crackhead dev concept of astral luminite equivalency ...
yeah I support this
dull heart
Deus really can't decide if he's a ML alt or cultist Alt
why not both
cultist pillars and moon lord kinda are all one blob together overall
deus can be the alternate to the whole lunar event
stuck kite
deus is just both at the same time
dull heart
deus if it unlocked phantoplasm drops
stuck kite
so true..
dull heart
Making deus a ML alt and making Deus unlock Phantoplasm and ML unlock Profaned could be kinda cool
summer shore
Moon lord and star lord
dull heart
Steve and Peter Quill
wicked temple
minecraft steve?
dull heart
no terraria steve
anyway I think we've just confirmed deus's name is peter
this is now my canon
wicked temple
woah
dull heart
invoked petergod
wicked temple
:o
stuck kite
whats so invoked about peter
summer shore
Steve and Peter Quill
Mantis astral enemy is deus' sister ⁉️
dull heart
not quite
boreal edge
🐱
white aurora
cat
stuck kite
Mantis astral enemy is deus' sister ⁉️
i cant believe guardians of the galaxy includes astrum deus, an astral enemy, the hallowed drill, and god damn rocket
dull heart
i cant believe guardians of the galaxy includes astrum deus, an astral enemy, th...
Oh my goodness I have
I will be back in a while
stuck kite
cook
boreal edge
clueful
summer shore
It's over doze got another brain blast
lapis oak
blasted
boreal edge
I blame @lapis oak
fathom girder
another 10 trillion days to the SSO delay
lapis oak
I blame <@267302931592642560>
𒅌???
dull heart
oh wait
boreal edge
boreal edge
Big fan
dull heart
i cant believe guardians of the galaxy includes astrum deus, an astral enemy, th...
I present to you the guardians of calamity
(I gave up on what I was originally gonna do bc mobile sucks so this is what you get)
lapis oak
not very peak
fathom girder
Your demands mean nothing to big tech
gray laurel
dusty tinsel
lean relic
pearl sentinel
there really isnt much you get from astral post wof though
you can make some stu...
wait am i stupid doesnt astral only exist post wof anyways
lean relic
gameplay moment
buoyant pulsar
if they removed the screen overlay for pbg it would be 10x more fun just saying
buoyant pulsar
calval win,....
terminus wings....... 🔥 🖊️
pearl sentinel
yeah i know gameplay
fringe quiver
wait am i stupid doesnt astral only exist post wof anyways
I meant like immediately post wof, before aureus or deus
lapis oak
your fingernails should be violently torn off for this
😨 ???
lapis oak
wtf...
lean relic
arctic cliff
your fingernails should be violently torn off for this
what the hell man
1 antiproton to each of your protons
dusty tinsel
You can't do that vanilla will just give it to kiri
hexed basalt
Gonna be nothing left of Kiri after this
wow rude
arctic cliff
You can't do that vanilla will just give it to kiri
You're expecting vanilla to be capable of giving something that will immediately annihilate all of his atoms?
raw pendant
Why did this animation never make it ingame
I remember all those years ago when the animation submissions were accepted but this specific one never made it in
inner timber
would be so much more peak than the Fade To White we get
hushed hazel
Why the fuck did I think this was some form of clash of clans ui for a second
I need more sleep man
fringe quiver
Why the fuck did I think this was some form of clash of clans ui for a second
no i see the vision
pearl sentinel
i dont are you two good
hushed hazel
No I need to sleep more
stuck kite
i think its crucially missing the clash of clans font
brave star
What’s this from
brave star
Oh ok
hallow thunder
I'm guessing the green means it will be in SSO?
lean relic
it means unfinished/finished
the others without greens are not started
hallow thunder
Ah ok
brave star
Are the golden boss rush music boxes confirmed sprites
lean relic
nope
brave star
Oh ok
thorny glacier
changelogs tomorrow
brave star
Also I like the Xeroc eye on the terminus being animated to signify the start of the boss rush
I know it wasn’t used but damn, it had potential to be in the terminus animations
So smooth and badass
near zealot
hella curious about the reasoning behind swapping ruffian and prowler's classes. i felt like the prowler armor did really good at invoking an inspired cowboy aesthetic while ruffian struck me more as a rogue set considering the abstract facelessness. i'm sure the reasoning is good! just a choice i never would've thought to make myself
lapis oak
Desert has 2 ranged armors and easy to make, meanwhile Rogue has Gladiator and Snow Ruffin which are considered to require more efforts to obtain
arctic cliff
i think it doesnt really solve the issue that there are two ranger armor sets
and that technically they're both boring
glider is just gliding
near zealot
i never really considered ruffian to be that hard to make but beyond that fair enough
arctic cliff
hang on
near zealot
i think it doesnt really solve the issue that there are two ranger armor sets
an...
no but if ruffian and prowler are swapped it means that if you want a ranger armor set you could go to the desert or ice biome which is some nice choice
real axle
i think it doesnt really solve the issue that there are two ranger armor sets
an...
desert prowler set bonus:
real axle
no, i mean the sandstorm bomb or whatever it's called
arctic cliff
nah as in
im aware that one of the ranger armors is way more interesting than the other
this one
i actually dont know what the underlying issue specifically is
i guess the issue involves the fossils that make up fossil armor being made obtainable earlier in vanilla
real axle
Oh, do you mean swapping the class on desert prowler and ruffian would make both ranger armours boring?
arctic cliff
yah
because like
fossil armor is absurdly boring
ive always thought that fossil armor should've been reworked because like
wait
desert prowler also has ammo conservation
but thats a bonus for its hat
near zealot
i would just rework fossil armor into a magic set cuz those mfs get nothing early game
arctic cliff
fossil armor's bonus is... the 20% ammo conservation
real axle
i would just rework fossil armor into a magic set cuz those mfs get *nothing* ea...
you get jungle armour for mage
arctic cliff
compared to the desert prowler's +1 ranged damage that is kinda nice for minishark and the supercrit charge
desert garnet
And gem robe + wizard hat
arctic cliff
and they're moving that set to rogue
near zealot
you get jungle armour for mage
then you need to deal with the jungle without armor
desert garnet
then you need to deal with the jungle without armor
You can make armor
For defense
Like lead armor
real axle
I mean, you usually go down there pre-boss in most playthroughs
desert garnet
Or just make a bed
near zealot
And gem robe + wizard hat
that felt very cobbled together to me, not sure what the thought was behind them since i haven't seen anyone even touch them in a good while
arctic cliff
i think its novel tbh
just have an armor set that only needs two pieces and not one
i think terraria rn is too reliant on full sets of armor being used and not like
mixing and matching armors
real axle
maybe, but they're pretty meh
arctic cliff
from what i can tell on the calamity wiki, in some rare cases a specific mixed set ends up outperforming others in general
but again, rare cases
near zealot
rare cases usually through technicalities iirc
i think terraria as a whole has a problem with being unable to effectively multiclass unless the armor itself specifically requests it (old ones army gear + the hardmode blizzard and sandstorm armor)
real axle
Yeah, I'd agree, though Calamity does do a better job at catering to multiclass
near zealot
anyway back on topic, i feel like the swapping of ruffian and prowler's classes is a good change. as much as i drastically prefer ruffian and i am a rogue main, i can accept that mechanically it's a good thing. i think the only change on top it'd really need is making either fossil or ruffian a little more interesting so ranger isn't left in the dust
real axle
I imagine they'll give those 2 sets something cool in the future
near zealot
i really like the ruffian armor bonus, even if it's not the most impactful it's one of the most mechanically interesting and i hope they keep it in some form
buoyant pulsar
mixing and matching armors
i wish this was more generally viable
azure oak
dry whale
changelogs june 5th
hard copper
changelogs february 30th