#calamity-update-talk

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lapis oak
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Teslastaff lightning effect is kinda cool

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At least it has that

glacial current
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i uhhh

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hello everyone

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does anyone have experience with master death mode

lapis oak
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This channel is for upcoming contents

raw pendant
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nah it was actually time signature

glacial current
raw pendant
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tempo slightly changed but it went faster because i did the wrong time signature

spark kiln
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how does that even work

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how does the time signature make it faster

lapis oak
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Scourge of the Desert 2

raw pendant
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which made it go faster

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but technically speaking it was in a different time signature as well

fathom girder
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Because it's a screwdriver?

naive ice
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@wispy blade

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Thanks

raw falcon
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also gilded proboscis rework is peak

raw falcon
brave star
naive ice
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Not

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BOT

brave star
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Correct spelling fail

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Laugh

buoyant pulsar
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like new aerospec weapons ✨

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at least the sword actually has a fun gameplay loop

lapis oak
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what

fringe quiver
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my nazme is cheese i made the mimic it was diafshyuasgag

buoyant pulsar
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this summon weapon type needs to die immediately

arctic cliff
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"sword skinned around desert scourge"
looks inside
best shortsword in the entire game

buoyant pulsar
arctic cliff
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like genuinely

buoyant pulsar
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they're unique

arctic cliff
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its a shame you dont get anymore interesting shortswords other than vanilla's final shortsword

arctic cliff
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also i love brittle stars

buoyant pulsar
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to be honest i fucking love deepsea staff

arctic cliff
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ehh

buoyant pulsar
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i love how they just absolutely tear apart anything they gets close to you into shreds

arctic cliff
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it should have something similar to the brittle star secondary

buoyant pulsar
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if they updated the vfx and added a little extra flair but kept that aspect i would like that i think

arctic cliff
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actually... but what if we made said secondary different

buoyant pulsar
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just make them buzzsaws

summer shore
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MORE saw weapons

buoyant pulsar
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yesssssss

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yessssssssssss

summer shore
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Unlimited saws

uncut briar
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WRONG that thing sucks

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sorry i saw someone below mention your message and i had to be evil

fringe quiver
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its ok i never used it

uncut briar
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that thing fuckin sucks i hate it and it was a mistake

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like the slime puppet thing and the aureus drop were legitimately mistakes

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they werent supposed to act like that

fringe quiver
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ill trust you on that one i never used them

uncut briar
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whips exist as the active option now

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Click and hold to spam homing projectiles with autoswing summon weapon is fake interaction

buoyant pulsar
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oh thank god

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they're just so useless compared to terra

uncut briar
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mild take

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daedalus and perennial can disappear

buoyant pulsar
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hellion flower spear and botanic piercer are just. the same thing.

uncut briar
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arguably scoria too

buoyant pulsar
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nah scoria's cool

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daedalus and perennial definitely tho

uncut briar
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post plant/golem there’s like 8 armor sets available (mild exaggeration

buoyant pulsar
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mmm idk you could do smth cool with daedalus

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crystals are cool

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no idea why it's called daedalus though...?

uncut briar
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old calamity character

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never did anything

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i wanted to rename it ❤️

lyric trellis
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He's Draedon's secret identity.....

buoyant pulsar
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photon lore video from 5 years ago goes hard

uncut briar
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btw turning hallowed bars into an Ore you can Mine was possibly the most boring thing you could’ve done

buoyant pulsar
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why does bro have the brewing stand...

uncut briar
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also turning Auric into an Ore you can Mine is also possibly the most boring thing you could’ve done

summer shore
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Just make yharon explode into dangerous auric pebbles that you have to collect

lapis oak
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I'm the nuggets collector

dull heart
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hi

lapis oak
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hello

terse dew
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😟

dull heart
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specifically because they do not force focus minions they provide a valuable difference to whips

buoyant pulsar
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i dont like em much personally

cobalt wharf
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fake depth

arctic cliff
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i genuinely prefer the slime puppet staff types over whips, but if im gonna be honest

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i think they'd be better if they were like the Igneous Exaltation

cobalt wharf
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exaltation is slightly better

arctic cliff
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exaltation my beloved

cobalt wharf
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but enough of the mage weapons that deal summon damage

arctic cliff
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i wish they had more of them

cobalt wharf
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give minions that i have to pilot instead, that still take slots

arctic cliff
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at least we're getting something like it (Seashine Hilt) in SSO

cobalt wharf
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yeah

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hilt seems better

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design wise atleast

arctic cliff
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Both have their merits.

kindred night
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you should take more damage from dog if youre wearing auric armour

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cause youre using armour made of auric soul fragments and an auric soul makes you a god i think

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👍

arctic cliff
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anyways viral sprout on account of being genuinely unique should stay but lose its direct ties to the perennial set

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maybe just make it a plant that grows

buoyant pulsar
lyric trellis
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That's been mentioned before yes, probably something like that happens

buoyant pulsar
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abigail's flower type deal

kindred night
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desert tiger staff

dull heart
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viral sprout is great

lapis oak
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Lotus Flower

summer shore
cobalt wharf
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REVERT GAMMA HEART CHANGE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

dull heart
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What was old gamma heart

lyric trellis
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Beams that converged on your cursor

lapis oak
lyric trellis
lapis oak
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gitgud was right

lyric trellis
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We need SSO now what are people doing

arctic cliff
# dull heart What was old gamma heart

If the player possesses seven or more heads, a Gamma Canister has a chance to appear. If a head comes into contact with a Gamma Canister, all existing Gamma Heads fire a Gamma Deathray in the cursor's direction that deals 120% of the weapon's damage and inflicts Electrified on enemy hits.

misty wren
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what did the old gamma hearts beams look like

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was it like

arctic cliff
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they looked like basic old terraria lasers

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but green

lyric trellis
dull heart
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So dust beams?

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oh ok

arctic cliff
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no like that

misty wren
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yeah i was gonna ask

lapis oak
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last prism beam

arctic cliff
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apparently this was too confusing for people so thats why its gone

misty wren
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if it was an actual laser or if it was dust spam

arctic cliff
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sad...

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i hated this change so much too, why turn gamma heart into this absurdly simple summon weapon

dull heart
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Not to mention

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New gamma heart is a design that kinda sucks for DoG

lapis oak
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gitgud was right

misty wren
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theres a balance between too complex and too simple and neither version does it right based off the tooltip overdone posted

arctic cliff
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again, it was kinda confusing

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a bit too much

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that said i really like the idea of making a summon that can be boosted into blasting laser beams

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especially one you can kinda control

misty wren
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if it was just like
you have 7+ heads? congratulations now they're even stronger but you also have to aim
yeah thats good
the issue comes into play with the fact that its only a chance to pop out the canister that a head then has to touch for you to get the bonus

lyric trellis
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I like that the beams inflicted electrified, cause that makes sense

summer shore
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Ok but the boost activating only if you grab the canisters makes it skill based which is cool

arctic cliff
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maybe we should just turn gamma heart into a minion accessory then. make it have a bind to boost itself into shooting aimable lasers

summer shore
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If the boost just happens automatically once you have 7 heads then there's no gameplay change, you just do damage

summer shore
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Whereas the canister mechanic actually makes you change how you do things

misty wren
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thinking about it like nebula boosters

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that isnt a skill bonus

dull heart
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Realistically

lapis oak
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Ataraxia will now inflict Static Discharge, Electrified, Vermilion Flux and Auric Rebuke for 1 second per rocket

dull heart
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Gamma Heart could shoot lasers

summer shore
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Shut up kiri

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Smelly

dull heart
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upon successfully whipping an enemy or something

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With a cooldown

arctic cliff
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honestly the fact that people here are arguing over the quality of this prior Gamma Heart should probably explain why it was probably changed

lapis oak
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😢

misty wren
arctic cliff
# summer shore Smelly

Seriously, THAT'S HOW YOU INSULT KIRI? In THIS DAY AND AGE?

You have truly grown down. You've degenerated into a child.

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1 neutron to each of your atoms Altraxia.

misty wren
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stinky

summer shore
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I have remained this way since I was born

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What use is innovation in the face of perfection

arctic cliff
summer shore
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fabsol's view of perfection sucks

arctic cliff
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exactly

summer shore
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Also neutrons don't even do much they just make you fatter

arctic cliff
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if there is an opportunity to make fun of that manchild i will

lean relic
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Truth supernova

misty wren
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but yeah more than anything it not being guaranteed to even get a canister and then only proccing when one of the heads hits the canister seems like it would be really inconsistent and unintuitive to activate

arctic cliff
summer shore
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doncare

dull heart
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As someone who has worked on making multiple of his boss ais better

arctic cliff
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I think you should.

dull heart
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yikes!

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the boss AIs get even worse once you learn the details

summer shore
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protons are way scarier to add to someone

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Electrons just make you staticy

dull heart
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I will add positrons

arctic cliff
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I mean, just ask this guy.

dull heart
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Antimatter explode

misty wren
rose laurel
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I remember talking to Cei about how I think the biggest reason Calamity's Bosses being ass has never really impacted its overall quality, until now, is that both our standards for other content wasn't really high, but also

summer shore
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They call him shin godzilla because his shins big as hell

rose laurel
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Games can 100% work when there are no good Bosses

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See

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Dead Cells

dull heart
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genshin

rose laurel
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Dead Cells has ABSOLUTELY ZERO GOOD BOSSES

misty wren
summer shore
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touche

rose laurel
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Except like, the new ones from the Castlevania crossover

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Otherwise have fun with Time Keeper and her 35 falling projectiles which you cannot parry

dull heart
rose laurel
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And she still sucks

summer shore
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genshin boss be like

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Leg

rose laurel
summer shore
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And shin

rose laurel
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My point isn't that the Bosses are easy, because minus the final ones

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Yeah they are

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You ain't dying to the Concierge

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Ever

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He's still a bad Boss

misty wren
rose laurel
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But like, essentially the point is

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Calamity never had to worry about the Bosses being dogshit because the rest of the content was pretty enjoyable

misty wren
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which is why i didnt say anything about concierge even if i do find it very fun

rose laurel
arctic cliff
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yeah

rose laurel
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And also because the Mod is a Boss Rush

boreal edge
arctic cliff
rose laurel
lyric trellis
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Hi cit

arctic cliff
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I genuinely am glad Fabsol is gone because like, I know for a fact he would've made giant DoG incredibly insufferable

boreal edge
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Hi Karina

rose laurel
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Nothing really going for it and just stayed afloat due to the unsurmountable fame it has garnered

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And also the OST

lyric trellis
# boreal edge Hi Karina

Glad you agree with the game you've never played, I'm sure sgab's messages taught you everything you know

boreal edge
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All I ever need to know

summer shore
lyric trellis
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Too much*

rose laurel
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But yes

boreal edge
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Cursed

arctic cliff
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ever wonder why Infernum is still that popular? Yeah, on average those bosses were better than most of Fabsol's fights.
(again, on average. I'm excluding OD and DoG from this averaging for a very good reason)

rose laurel
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I definitely agree that Cal can exist with its Bosses being bad

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The problem is that'd require making everything else actually good

boreal edge
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Can't just keep bad content

rose laurel
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And that's hard as fuck given our basis is Terraria, a game which already suffers from any combat being neutered after a certain point

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Which we make even worse!

late eagle
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We need to kill AI😠

lyric trellis
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Well "bad" depends on how bad they are, if every boss was DoG it would be a lot worse than idk. Crabulon or Brimmy

rose laurel
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Yeah I think Cal, for the most part, has

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Mid as fuck Bosses

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Cal has few bad Bosses

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But also no good Bosses

arctic cliff
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probably the coldest take Rebecca has made in a long time

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hang on

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a dev made a good comment regarding this

boreal edge
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Would you like to change that

lapis oak
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Seraph Tracers stepping on Blender Beam

rose laurel
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Like, Crabulon for example is imo a decently fun fight because it's cool to weave through the projectiles

late eagle
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I still really like the bosses since I haven't played any other mods yet.

arctic cliff
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On the Calcast episode regarding the fall of fabsol

rose laurel
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The problem is

cobalt wharf
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cal having bad bosses would not be acceptable if it weren’t for dokuro music
similarly vanilla having bad bosses wouldn’t be acceptable if it weren’t for the rest of the game

rose laurel
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CRABULON'S FIGHT IS JUST A BUNCH OF PROJECTILES

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Is it fun? Yes

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Is it well designed? Fuck no lmao

boreal edge
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I mean the other issue is just being stuck with a mountain of quantity over quality leftover from 2017

arctic cliff
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ironically, Fabsol said something about enjoying poorly designed bosses anyways, which is probably one of his few good opinions

lyric trellis
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Boss rework when the boss is resprited in 5 years

arctic cliff
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like you can enjoy flawed fights

rose laurel
boreal edge
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insert your comment about Exo Mechs design

rose laurel
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Mine?

lyric trellis
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Everyone's favorite boss

lapis oak
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Seraph Tracers walking on Blender Beam

late eagle
rose laurel
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Read

boreal edge
rose laurel
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Oh yeah that one

arctic cliff
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like sure you might disagree with some of the choices Lucille does with her bosses, but its pretty obvious that the difference between, fuck it, even the original version of Noxus in WoTG and something made by Fabsol

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is well

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yknow

dusty tinsel
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I find crabulon funny both in fables and cal. Fables crabulon emotes on you when you die 😂

lyric trellis
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15/16 exo mech attacks having def damage or something

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Very necessary

rose laurel
# boreal edge

Even in fights that didn't get this it's still a prevalent issue

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Like with SCal

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Specific elements of that fight don't work properly because, if they did

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They'd be nut kickers

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Even Providence, aka Objectively The Best Boss In The Mod suffers from this

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A bunch of her attacks are dodged by running the fuck away from them

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Because if you stay anywhere close you'll get nuked

arctic cliff
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rebecca try not to praise providence in any way challenge (99.9999999999999999999999999999995% failure rate)

late eagle
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Nah providence is cool

rose laurel
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It's not my fault she's the best Boss in the Mod right now and also my second favorite character from Cal

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Well, the latter is my fault

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I write her

boreal edge
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Remember that if you catch Rebecca glazing you can always pull out the good ol dynamite

late eagle
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💥

weary flint
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name one other boss that heals you

arctic cliff
weary flint
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i feel her love every time I get hit for 330 damage and burn to ash on my glass Cannon build

arctic cliff
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well actually she's a good character but still subjective

weary flint
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I ❤️ providence

stone zephyr
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i <3 providence because thats the name of a city i go to regularly

weary flint
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was her healing the terrarian ever explained

lyric trellis
boreal edge
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Never gonna catch me missing an opportunity to explode Rebecca 🙏

dull heart
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it's easier to run though

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but like... I wouldn't say I did that much running away in the gilded proboscis video I posted

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and dodging there wasn't too bad

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I definitely did run more than I usually do because haha I have to keep up with providence to deal damage

rose laurel
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Ok but you're Doze

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Like, you told me you could stay inside the flame circles that spawn from the big fireballs

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I didn't know that was even possible

dull heart
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that's because running away is so much easier to do, yeah

lapis oak
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in that one particular part

dull heart
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I got hit from star bullet hell

rose laurel
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Even if Providence's bullets are better than I give them credit for, their behavior is

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Beyond poorly communicated

dull heart
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that's probably fair

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well

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actually I think it's more of an issue of

lapis oak
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1:27 onward ultimatesmug

dull heart
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Everything Fabsol gives you is "just run fast"

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Why would I not run fast here too?

rose laurel
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Yeah everything is painfully run-goddable

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ONCE AGAIN

rose laurel
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THE FABSOL CURSE

boreal edge
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Bring back old Guardian phase this will fix her

dull heart
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I really like CV honestly because it's like

dull heart
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The only Fabsol boss you can't just rungod

rose laurel
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And also the only one with an actual structure to the fight besides like

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SCal

dull heart
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old Duke, aureus, weaver, provi

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all come to mind of being structured

boreal edge
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I would not call Aureus structured

rose laurel
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They don't feel structured to me besides OD I guess

boreal edge
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Its attack choice is completely random

lapis oak
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kill vanilla projectiles

dull heart
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hmm maybe I'm misremembering aureus then

rose laurel
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Even Provi is structureless because she kinda just attacks

boreal edge
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Oh yeah that's another thing

lyric trellis
dull heart
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provi attacks are in a cycle though at least

boreal edge
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A lot of bosses used to have set attack patterns, and then Fab just kinda phased a lot of them out for some reason?

dull heart
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and has guardian phase

dull heart
arctic cliff
dull heart
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Literally every move change was randomized

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I get some randomness but goodness

arctic cliff
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a stark contrast from, say Nameless Deity having a specific attack pattern

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or like

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Infernum Providence

rose laurel
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I don't think randomized boss patterns is bad, infact I think that's usually better

arctic cliff
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speaking of which

rose laurel
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The problem is that none of Fab's Bosses have meaningful attacks

dull heart
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Randomization is good in small quantities or when well telegraphed

dull heart
arctic cliff
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@rose laurel I actually wonder what you think of Infernum Providence (excluding that last part where she gets nommed by DoG)?

dull heart
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The attacks are just not clearly meaningful because they have no flow

rose laurel
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I never fought her

dull heart
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Because they're random

rose laurel
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Nor saw the fight

arctic cliff
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you should

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at least give it a whirl

boreal edge
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I prefer the randomization of something like Lifelight from Fargo's Souls
Where it picks randomly from an attack pool, but it has to use every attack in the pool before repeating

dull heart
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yeah that's a good way to do it

rose laurel
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Yes I think that's usually how it's best done

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Randomized with terms and conditions

dull heart
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The killer to me with Fab was

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The secondary attacks on separate timers entirely

rose laurel
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Like not being able to use the same attack in a row

lyric trellis
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Having a set pattern but there's rng to certain attacks (done well) is cool

dull heart
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Laser Walls just randomly cutting in to the main DoG attacks with no warning

Skeletron teleporting sometimes happening MID DASH

Slime God teleports being entirely unrelated to other attacks

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come to mind

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he really liked adding attacks on a secondary timer that didn't match other things in the fight

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Weaver's dashes not being synced with ice waves

lyric trellis
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Scal’s own pattern being on the same timer the entire fight minus the 45% mobile

dull heart
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the thing with randomized attacks is

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Depending on the attack, stuff can naturally become chaotic even when fully structured

vivid hemlock
dull heart
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Such as Exo Mechs or Providence

lapis oak
arctic cliff
dull heart
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providence is a very ordered fight but due to her position being tied to the player, as well as the homing projectiles, it never feels the same

arctic cliff
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i cant ever like, not make absurd ideas

vivid hemlock
lapis oak
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who u

stone zephyr
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hi vanillin

vivid hemlock
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hey lawlsi

arctic cliff
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i actually dont mind the randomized attacks, there's merits to both randomized attacks and patterned attacks

dull heart
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randomized attacks are good done right

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fabsol rarely did them right

stiff light
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vanlij

lapis oak
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@boreal edge why reacted only me!!! 🤬

arctic cliff
stone zephyr
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arctic cliff
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Never really doing them right

stiff light
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can i get a cool emoji reaction please

lyric trellis
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Randomized, patterned, just make a good boss,,,,

dull heart
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The more I work on fabsol bosses the more I realize

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He was not that far off from a good fight on a couple of them

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he just made a few choices that destroyed the whole thing

rose laurel
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The only thing I'm always like

boreal edge
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Collapsing building GIF

rose laurel
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100% dead set on "this is never good"

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Is oneshots

arctic cliff
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true

stuck kite
boreal edge
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Niko

rose laurel
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Oneshots have no place unless the game is specifically structured around it

dull heart
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oneshots are fine specifically if it only happens to a glass cannon

lyric trellis
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So funny that DoG used to have that

dull heart
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but on an average build you should not be oneshot

boreal edge
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Essence was consumed by the devourer

stuck kite
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dog was the entire package

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you got the one tap and the nti butcher

arctic cliff
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and even then

stuck kite
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and edgy text on both of them

dull heart
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Dog is going from peak of Fabsol design to sneak peek of future boss design

rose laurel
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I do not think, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

lyric trellis
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Oh my god the anti-butchers/% damage caps

boreal edge
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EdgyText2

arctic cliff
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ecliptic meteor momento

rose laurel
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A player should be punished by death over a single mistake

stiff light
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one shots are just bad boss design

stone zephyr
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nohits be like

stuck kite
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💥

dull heart
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Avatar of Emptiness oneshotting me was annoying

rose laurel
dull heart
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it was only one attack

boreal edge
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Nohits are a separate challenge

lyric trellis
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That was an Armageddeon,,,

boreal edge
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Like the Slime

dull heart
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But I genuinely didn't know what I needed to do until it was way too late

arctic cliff
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at least, ecliptic meteor style attacks are generally done in a game* where you either have other teammates to resurrect you, or you have multiple lives during a fight

*Final Fantasy XIV and Monster Hunter

dull heart
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and I was super tanky too and just evaporated

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I was also like 10 minutes into the fight at that point

stone zephyr
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long fight indeed

lyric trellis
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Great feeling

arctic cliff
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and notably, Terraria is not that sorta game

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@dull heart which one was that

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the AoE attack?

boreal edge
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Good idea, bosses now gain insta-kills in multiplayer

summer shore
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Horrible

rose laurel
rose laurel
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This is the crux of the problem, imo

dull heart
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nameless I also died to a oneshot that I didn't know what to do to but it was less annoying bc it wasn't the only thing that killed me

rose laurel
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Like, Radahn's grab in SotE

dull heart
summer shore
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Nameless has one shot?

dull heart
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there was one where I ran and apparently I was supposed to stay close

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and I just got nuked

arctic cliff
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and that one

rose laurel
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That's not a single mistake

dull heart
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nameless was a lot more fun to me though because it actually could damage me in general

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Avatar I literally nearly facetanked

rose laurel
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I actually want to make a similar system for DoG

boreal edge
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How many Avatar attacks inflict defense damage clueless

dull heart
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Very few

arctic cliff
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speaking of that great rune

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specifically the boss that drops it

dull heart
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Me chilling with my 10 brittle stars

arctic cliff
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i just fought that dude

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what a goofy fight

boreal edge
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God the Brittle Stars

lyric trellis
rose laurel
rose laurel
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And you can do something to decrease the counter

stiff light
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give dog a grab attack

arctic cliff
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just blast this shadowy sunflower evil tree thing with fire, then it respawns and charges you down

dull heart
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hold open the jaws of dog like a movie character

arctic cliff
#

and then you do the same thing to it

rose laurel
arctic cliff
#

and then it fucking comes back again

lyric trellis
#

Will brittle stars survive the flat

stiff light
#

scadutree is so silly

#

3 lives is so unnecessary

rose laurel
#

Bro nothing is ever beating me getting the last one to low HP and going

#

"Ok"

arctic cliff
#

im going through SOTE now and despite how difficult it can be (i am unfortunately one of those guys who use summons)

rose laurel
#

"It's preparing the nuke"

#

Dodging it

arctic cliff
#

the fights are still great

stiff light
#

midra is the best boss oat

rose laurel
#

And then TRIPLE NUKE JUMPSCARE

stiff light
#

besides messmer

arctic cliff
#

messmer was so fucking cool man

#

i also just got to bayle and hes super fucking baller

stiff light
#

messmer is my favourite soulslike boss ever

#

hes so fun its unbelievable

#

getting the timings down is so fun

arctic cliff
#

like, placidusax was easily my favorite boss in elden ring base game

#

and then theres bayle

#

also fucking insane theme

#

the music in SOTE elevates these bosses so much

#

even that weird centipede girl has a wonderful theme

#

anyhow

#

this is very spoilerous

stiff light
#

midras theme 🤤

rose laurel
#

Messmer is my #2 From Soft Boss ever

stiff light
#

libras theme 🤤

rose laurel
#

The first is and will always be Gael

stiff light
#

whats up with madness bosses getting the best songs

arctic cliff
#

(please use Messmer's snake form attacks for DoG it would be great)

rose laurel
#

I don't think that's

stiff light
#

scrap dog add rykard

rose laurel
#

Doable in any way

arctic cliff
rose laurel
#

Messmer's snake attacks wouldn't work in 2D

lucid torrent
#

I like serpents

stiff light
#

yea

arctic cliff
#

thats probably what i should've said instead

lucid torrent
#

Lets give dog a piranha form

arctic cliff
#

God-Devouring Serpent as a name is so funny when you know about DoG from Calamity

stiff light
#

holy shit true

arctic cliff
rose laurel
stiff light
#

yea

#

ive learned like all the timings for messmer

rose laurel
#

The snake moves so fucking weirdly

#

But you can very much tell when it's going to strike

stiff light
#

i like every single boss in sote

arctic cliff
#

i want DoG to just summon Cosmic Guardians for like an attack in his final form similar to that one Messmer attack where he summons multiple snake heads

rose laurel
#

I, admittedly

#

Do not like Gaius

stiff light
#

gaius gets so much hate

rose laurel
#

It's not even because of the dash

stiff light
#

the only attack that i get hit by is the cahrge

#

oh

arctic cliff
#

(cool. I understand why)

rose laurel
#

It's because Gaius is the only Boss where you HAVE TO DODGE to get a hit in

#

Or heal

dull heart
#

what if dog actually tried to eat you

rose laurel
#

He's the only Boss you'll be punished if you try to do anything after being hit

#

From, fundamentally, every attack

stiff light
#

fair enough

lean relic
dull heart
#

what if I nohit new dog dashless in a 50 x 50 block arena

#

I do not know if that's even possible

arctic cliff
#

also are we not gonna talk about how two remembrance bosses are also only accessible via the Shadow Keep, ALONGSIDE Messmer at the top

#

i find that so weird

#

like, THREE REMEMBRANCE BOSSES. IN EFFECTIVELY ONE AREA.

stiff light
#

i like how you have to focus on both gaius and the boar

dull heart
#

I could probably do new dog with a ram in a 50x50 but dashless is yikes

stiff light
#

and see whos attacking next

#

also some of their attack combos are awesome to dodge

rose laurel
stiff light
#

i agree they are probbaly the worst major boss in sote

lucid torrent
#

What if dog had a desperation phase where he summons 10 cosmic guardians that help him with devouring your frame rate

stiff light
#

still like them more then fire giant

rose laurel
#

Nah I think being like, as objective as possible

#

Metyr is the worst

stiff light
#

fairrr

#

ok but bias cause its so pretty

arctic cliff
#

im super surprised by seeing all these people getting infuriated by fire giant

#

probably because i use bleed builds...

rose laurel
#

Fleeting Microcosm being both the WORST ATTACK OF ALL TIME

#

But also the coolest fucking attack ever

arctic cliff
#

LMAO

stiff light
#

guys what i use moonveil

#

and and

#

rivers of blood

arctic cliff
#

im laughing my balls off at that

rose laurel
#

I kept switching weapons in SotE

dull heart
#

fun fact

dull heart
#

Y'know how laser walls are laggy

stiff light
#

its so fucking cool

#

my first ever run for sote i use fists only

dull heart
lapis oak
#

🤨 ?

naive ice
stiff light
#

john balls

rose laurel
#

Byeah SotE goes hard

arctic cliff
#

weird, i thought it was going to be immensely mid

naive ice
#

B A L L S

arctic cliff
#

no its actually mostly fine for me, even though its quite hard

rose laurel
#

SotE is just more Elden Ring

arctic cliff
#

true, thats the main reason why i got it anyhow

rose laurel
#

But it usually doubles down on unique aspects of Elden Ring some people disliked instead of going back to the massively overrated design of DS3

#

You liked the base game? You'll almost definitely like SotE

naive ice
rose laurel
#

You didn't? Lmao you're gonna fucking hate it

#

And also Scadu fragments

naive ice
naive ice
rose laurel
#

I think people massively overblow how bad they are because if you are thorough, you won't miss many and will always be on level

#

If you beeline to the Boss? Yeah of course you'll be weak dipshit

arctic cliff
#

hang on i remembered hearing fabsol say something goofy about them

naive ice
#

Also what’s SotE?

rose laurel
#

Shadow of the Erdtree

#

Elden Ring's DLC

naive ice
#

Oh Erdtree

rose laurel
buoyant pulsar
rose laurel
#

Lmao?

arctic cliff
#

im pretty sure it was something along the lines of "I got scared and ended up using up like 27 of them" or something

buoyant pulsar
#

does anyone have a gif of the bigass nuclear terror beam

arctic cliff
#

im definitely misremembering here

#

still one of the funniest things i remember hearing about

rose laurel
#

Probably something else

#

Scadu Fragments aren't consumable like that

arctic cliff
rose laurel
#

Me when I hyperoptimize the fun out of the game

arctic cliff
#

i actually wonder what he meant by "first boss"

#

did he refer to that random guy in the nameless mausoleum in the first area?

#

probably

#

since any reasonable elden ring explorer would learn to just explore literally every single area in the game possible

rose laurel
#

Tbf, upon further inspection, it really does make sense DS3 is his favorite From Soft game

#

Because it's the one you interact with anything that isn't the Bosses the least

arctic cliff
#

now to be honest i have never touched any of FromSoft games other than Elden Ring

rose laurel
#

DS3 is still good mind you

naive ice
#

I haven’t even played a from soft game

arctic cliff
#

so i'll just concede on matters regarding those

rose laurel
#

I just think people hold it as the apex of what they ever accomplished when I disagree vehemently

#

Every time I think about DS3, I dislike it more

#

It's still my favorite of the trilogy because of the narrative though

arctic cliff
#

the only thing i know is that Dark Souls 2 is divisive, probably because of its troubled development resulting in weird stuff, and DS1 and DS3 are cool
and that Bloodborne apparently is absurdly awesome

rose laurel
#

DS2 is quirky

#

That's the best way to describe it

naive ice
#

I am so lost

rose laurel
#

DS1 follows in the footsteps of its grandfather, Monster Hunter

#

By being both the best and worst game to have ever been made

arctic cliff
#

monster hunter? grandfather to... DS1?

rose laurel
#

Yeah, Miyazaki's games are inspired by Monster Hunter's gameplay core

arctic cliff
#

well

#

that explains things.

rose laurel
#

The dodge roll is a mechanic he lifted from MH

arctic cliff
#

(back before World, people would constantly compare Monster Hunter and Dark Souls quite a lot, actually)

naive ice
rose laurel
#

On the other

#

Bed of Chaos

lapis oak
#

best boss

naive ice
#

Who

rose laurel
#

The worst Boss ever made

lapis oak
#

Reb how could u say that

rose laurel
#

Byeah and then DS3 is like

#

From a narrative perspective?

#

My favorite of the trilogy by a landslide because it's fucking phenomenal

naive ice
#

Is he a bed like the kind you sleep in or a flower bed

rose laurel
#

The best way to describe it to me is

#

A love letter to all the people who stuck around with him

#

And a gigantic middle finger to everyone who made him do it

naive ice
#

Nice

dusty tinsel
#

Bed of Chaos from what I have seen is such an oddly designed boss

naive ice
dusty tinsel
#

It doesn't even have a health bar iirc because you just have to get to that one portion and do something and you win 😂

rose laurel
#

Yeah

dusty tinsel
#

It's a giant plant thing

rose laurel
#

The reason why I say Bed of Chaos is the worst Boss ever made (that isn't explicitly designed to be awful)

#

Is because its core design runs against the very game it is in

ocean jetty
#

Chaos

dusty tinsel
#

I honestly wouldn't even call it a boss

#

But alas it is

rose laurel
#

It's like if A Hat In Time added a Dark Souls Boss

#

And then made it as unfair and shitty as possible

#

Bed of Chaos is a Boss that does not work in Dark Souls, and is also the worst execution of it possible

#

Well ok it could've been worse if it didn't have checkpoints, that's it

stiff light
#

speaking of elden ring

#

im about to play convergence

#

heard its good

halcyon seal
#

Bed of Chaos is maybe the funniest fight in any game ever

#

Multiple people looked at it and went “yes, this is a good boss we will include in our game”

#

Idk I love ds1 because of how dogshit it can be sometimes

#

It is so unapologetically bad in certain areas it’s just charming

lapis oak
#

Love hate relationship

lean relic
#

pacman mouth
horse hoof

#

millions beloved enemy

lapis oak
#

I don't like

boreal edge
boreal edge
#

Me putting platformer elements in a Dark Souls boss

lapis oak
#

😭 CIT bully me

lapis oak
boreal edge
#

You're not Rebecca

lapis oak
#

that's right my gif is 2x bigger

lyric trellis
#

So friendly

brave star
arctic cliff
# halcyon seal Multiple people looked at it and went “yes, this is a good boss we will include ...

the worst thing? im pretty sure they didn't, the area that dude is in was apparently super rushed,
the fact that checkpoints exist on that boss... instead of, yknow, actually making Bed of Chaos a reasonable fight (there is straight up unused material of the vine thing protecting the Bed as an independent walking entity that almost certainly was an attempt to redo Bed as a good fight), suggests that even the team behind the game really didn't want Bed of Chaos to be the way it is now

dusty tinsel
arctic cliff
dusty tinsel
#

That would be better than being here in my life

#

So thank you

arctic cliff
#

i

#

dont think it would be better than here

#

if im gonna be honest

cinder hearth
dusk bronze
#

ever heard of "fight fire with fire" ultimatesmug

cinder hearth
vague cosmos
#

Do you think Yharim (and Potential Xeroc) will before or after WotG Avatar and Nameless.

cinder hearth
#

Well that depends on the WOTG devs

vague cosmos
#

We fighting god of creation then go to the final boss. The Godslayer.

arctic cliff
#

okay

dusk bronze
cinder hearth
arctic cliff
#

im going to guess that the endgame dev weapons will be moved to post-yharim

cinder hearth
#

We gonna be using draedon and/or scal weapons and armor against yharim most likely

vague cosmos
#

Oh. What are the End Game Dev Weapons?

arctic cliff
#

ignoring the part where WoTG separates from calamity, Yharim could likely be treated as pre-AoE

arctic cliff
vague cosmos
#

Oh.

#

duh

dusk bronze
#

note that demonshade is being moved to post scal

#

and entirely divorced from shadowspec

vague cosmos
#

Are the calamitas enchantments good?

dusk bronze
#

some are

#

most suck tho

#

depends on the weapon

#

also this channel is for discussing future plans for the mod

cinder hearth
vague cosmos
#

I love the Supernova weapon, like a better wave pownder. What Enchantment would be best for that one?

mossy sapphire
#

@vague cosmos

hazy pine
#

SDIYBT ❤️

viral merlin
hushed hazel
#

okay

viral merlin
#

We all not surviving to 2030

summer shore
#

You're not surviving to july 18 2025

spark kiln
#

kill calamity

viral merlin
#

A whole lot of orange

frigid mulch
hard hearth
slate folio
#

both existentially and just being uncomfortable to look at

dull heart
#

The sticker isn't loading for me which makes this message a lot funnier

wide nova
#

its a drink baby drinking itself

dense sundial
#

we won't be changing the original anymore

neon shadow
#

wotg mentioned graaaaaagh

wide nova
#

can fables just be called calamity 2

#

and wotg be called calamity 3

#

and calamity is calamity 4

neon shadow
#

Where is calamity 5

dense sundial
#

before i assemble the list, does souls dlc count as a calamity

wide nova
#

eahc mod strung together by a tight knit lore circle

neon shadow
#

💔

cinder hearth
wide nova
#

yeah… that’s the calamity number 5

#

we dont rlly talk aboit that one

#

its taboo subject

dense sundial
#

what's taboo about it

thorny glacier
thorny glacier
neon shadow
#

No heavenly arsenal

wide nova
thorny glacier
#

Soon

dense sundial
#

:huh

wide nova
#

alr i needa stop yapping i just woke up

#

morning!!!!

neon shadow
#

Keep yapping

thorny glacier
#

morning

wide nova
#

ok sorry where calamity 6

thorny glacier
#

community remix

wide nova
#

no thats 7 bro…

thorny glacier
#

:(

#

idk hotog I guess :/

cinder hearth
dense sundial
#

infernum is calamity 2, remix is calamity 3, souls dlc is calamity 3.5, fables is calamity 4, ozzatronian calamity is calamity 5

valid crypt
#

Calamity overhaul

cinder hearth
thorny glacier
#

calamity -1

dense sundial
#

yea

wide nova
#

cal all over the lamity

dense sundial
#

please eat breakfast or something

wide nova
#

😂😂😂😂😂

#

i been putting off editing acid rain vudeo for a week now

#

am i gonna put it off more? yeah

pseudo vector
#

bro i gotta get my video edited as well

#

i gotta figure out whats even gonna go in the video anyways

neon shadow
#

4 jpg

wide nova
#

who r u gonna ask to art it

neon shadow
#

Thats the scam again isnt it

thorny glacier
#

not one but FOUR devourers of IPs!!!

neon shadow
#

Oh yeah

thorny glacier
#

:/ they’re gone

pseudo vector
#

the guy doesn't even have a tangible design

wide nova
#

yeah

#

maybe something can be done with that in mind

#

some cool sorta shadow effect hiding a silhouette or some shit

pseudo vector
#

maybe?

wide nova
#

either that or we’d need a concept design for it

pseudo vector
#

yeah

dusk bronze
#

who

pseudo vector
#

the guy

#

you know who

pulsar cobalt
#

xeroc

dusk bronze
pulsar cobalt
#

no its a guess

#

but like

pseudo vector
#

xzier you should know who it is since i posted that teaser in the patreon server lol

pulsar cobalt
#

who else would need concept art for a music video

thorny glacier
#

dron

dusk bronze
#

xeroc already has concept art tho

pulsar cobalt
#

unless we are like

dusk bronze
#

i would've guessed noxus

pulsar cobalt
#

getting vetrasyl music

#

noxus is NOT getting music now

pulsar cobalt
#

and if he does im KILLING cd

pseudo vector
#

don't say who it is btw

dusk bronze
#

obv

pseudo vector
#

i want it to be a surprise for people when it drops

dusk bronze
#

oh right that guy i forgor that was happening

pseudo vector
#

yeah

thick coyote
#

im still mad at you for baiting me

wide nova
#

yall mfs are gonna have like 4 new music tracks by the end of summer

thick coyote
#

oh my role is gone becuase my payment failed

#

lmao rip

neon shadow
#

Calamity mod music (no music)

thorny glacier
pseudo vector
#

calamity music being posted consistently in the big 25

pulsar cobalt
#

25 is the year of calamity

split ginkgo
#

Calmusic is truly a calamity moment in this calamatious world

silk pebble
#

i love calamitous music

dusty tinsel
#

Calamity is canceled

wide nova
#

all my homies hate calmity

dusty tinsel
#

I canceled it

dusty tinsel
split ginkgo
#

cancel culture in calamity real?????

dusk bronze
#

didn't draedon canonically get cancelled

#

over the sulphur sea

thick coyote
#

pmuch

split ginkgo
#

Yes

#

Kek

cinder hearth
split ginkgo
#

That too

dusty tinsel
#

Draedon invented the game calamity, but it's biased towards yharim so he is getting canceled again

dusk bronze
#

it's trapped in the underground jungle where nobody lives

pulsar cobalt
cinder hearth
dusty tinsel
#

Yharim cancelled draedon over the bees

cinder hearth
#

Also the surface jungle is contaminated too

split ginkgo
#

Plague biome is coming.....

dusk bronze
#

true

wide nova
#

weed is my best friend

#

i love weed

#

i love weed

dusk bronze
wide nova
#

look at my child

dusty tinsel
#

Yharim would be very happy in that one seed where there are bee gives everywhere

neon shadow
fathom girder
white aurora
#

wawa

halcyon seal
dusk bronze
#

kbity

halcyon seal
#

kibty :)

cinder hearth
#

Remember, the calamity dev team supports drugs

wide nova
#

no just me

#

and only mary jane

naive ice
#

SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY

wide nova
#

i dont have any dev related items in mind yet so monkey is now my dev related thing

naive ice
#

Monke

lyric trellis
stone zephyr
wide nova
#

that would be inaccurate to his personality

dull heart
#

what if I made a fishing rod a weapon

vivid hemlock
#

minecraft

dull heart
#

that's not a weapon that's just momentum

lean relic
#

fishing rod class mod

lean relic
analog helm
fathom girder
#

via that one summon weapon that's a jellyfish on a pole

dull heart
#

that can't fish

#

therefore

#

not a fishing rod

#

orange name = i make the rules

fathom girder
#

tch

dense sundial
dull heart
#

heron rod is likely gonna die

#

ngl

dense sundial
#

that's fine too

lyric trellis
#

No dragonfolly rod….

dense sundial
#

one of the follies in the swarm is a heron

#

triangle if you can hear me

dull heart
#

heron rod lives another day

cunning sequoia
#

heat seeking fishing rod

naive ice
#

Use the truffle worm to make a Duke fishron upgrade, and a bloodworm to upgrade the fishron pole to a boomer Duke pole

pulsar cobalt
dull heart
#

i don't think they did it first ngl

#

there was def another mod before that

pulsar cobalt
#

probably

stone fiber
stone fiber
dusk bronze
#

the cat

stone fiber
stone fiber
dusk bronze
#

no

dusk bronze
valid crypt
stone fiber
#

Oh okay

stone fiber
# lean relic

Why did I think it was a Dead Cells lighthouse sisters reference HDfailure

dusk bronze
#

fuck kleio

#

all my homies hate kleio

dense sundial
late eagle
valid crypt
still heart
# lean relic

Is night providence a different fight in infernum??

dusk bronze
#

it's the same as day except way beefier and more damage

still heart
#

You sure man?

#

I’ve never seen those attacks in my life

dusk bronze
#

that vid is an old version

still heart
#

Oh okay

#

Ty

dusk bronze
#

@icy kiln The next major update is the Sunken Sea Overhaul (SSO) part 1. it's been in development for over a year and is easily the largest update in the mod's history. It'll add structures to and completely redo the worldgen of the Sunken Sea and Underworld, add new worldgen to the Desert and a couple dozen new enemies and critters to the Sunken Sea.

It'll also resprite and rework the Desert Scourge, Slime God and Cnidrion. Cnidrion will be an actual miniboss that you need to fight to gain access to the Sunken Sea. Additionally, there's a temporary Devourer of Gods rework to make it playable until the actual big rework/resprite comes out.
(there's more but this message is way too long)

icy kiln
dusk bronze
#

probably this year

#

no release date ever but there will be a trailer closeish to release

dusk bronze
#

list courtesy of theorios

icy kiln
#

Is that triactis true Palladian hammer of might or smth?

#

I always liked the comically large name lol

dusk bronze
#

and they're gonna be adding tons of lore as well as overhauling amidias dialogue and giving him quests

dull heart
icy kiln
#

Fantastic

dusk bronze
lean cave
#

its 7......................... erm...

dull heart
#

Hmm also does orio count #spoilers or only changelogs

lean cave
#

added oreos to the calamity mod

dull heart
#

bc proboscis is in spoiler channel

dusk bronze
celest bobcat
lapis oak
#

Also he has no internet right now I think

#

Got lost in the eternal beach

dull heart
#

L

fathom girder
buoyant pulsar
lapis oak
#

not in the changelogs yet

buoyant pulsar
#

mmmm makes sense

#

sorry for ping reply then

late eagle
#

Wulfrum

lapis oak
#

Wulflum

lyric trellis
#

Sleep in the pod

lapis oak
#

wtf is that middle left thing

#

I like it a lot

#

candelabra?

late eagle
#

The lore of wulfrum is that it is a technology made by rebels using scrap am I right?

cobalt wharf
#

wulfrum jukebox

late eagle
dull heart
#

you're making the scrap pretty

lapis oak
#

my Screwdriver looks pretty to me idk

buoyant pulsar
#

im tired of lasers converging on the cursor

#

do this instead (transformer rework style, or dance of light)

#

this is a PSA

shell sapphire
#

I don’t know why I thought of this, but it would be cool if a boss had Marluxia’s “doom counter” from kingdom heart.

buoyant pulsar
#

the dance of light is one of my favorite tomes

brave star
#

There should be music disc items to allow songs to be played on it

dusty tinsel
#

wulrum just starts beatboxing when you activate it