#calamity-update-talk
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ngl I think other secret seeds aside from FTW and getfixedboi should get slight changes
imo the monolith should just straight up be merged with the meteor itself
what if in the drunk seed calclone and Scal sprites were swapped
imagine if it had the altar beacon at the middle
or the notthebees seed changing plaguebringer goliath into a green queen bee
and if the beacon itself looked more like it was growing from the crater if yknow what i mean
hang on
i'd need to draw this
If astral got merged then it'll only have 3
no way Andromeda dying...
4644 i think
dont question the logic of true biome blade
Andromeda getting big changes right? because Astral got merged with Hallow for Phoenix's Pride
Qhar
I would think mercurial tides died given both of its constituents got blown up
andromeda and mercurial are pure+
phoenix and swordsmith are holy+
everything else remains
wtf
Did the game have the suken sea update?
so the silly ass purity attune survives all the way up to galaxia?
purity does something different
not yet
ok cool
Thx
its no longer a beam sword on t2
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so Hallow and Phoenix's Pride now have inherited Astral, Pure T2 + Mercurial + Andromeda are now different
I wonder how much different the latter 3 are now, is it like, heavily reworked / overhauled level?
pure t1 is also a little different i think
channeling swords glow up big time ๐
when SSO drops Done should join back on the team and balance the new Biome Blade line I think 
kinda got sidetracked. my current idea for the beacon ig. not exactly what i described byeah
Thatโs kinda sick
Is that mount fuji
the Gravastar ate the fuji top noooo ๐ญ
zamn it's reverse mtg Wrath of God
Metal gear rising wrath of the gods
magic the gathering wrath of the gods expansion
featuring your favorite wotg charact--
I agree
How did you even find this
searched malice golem probably
Sure
I transformed into my dinosaur mode
Fih 
Vanillin when he forgot to add something in future docs
it's been 5 months!!!
I know this is a really minor thing, but why doesn't aureus have gore sprites?
seems pretty weird since all other mechs made by Draedon do
He explodes into particles
wait what verison is SSO again
123 - Added gores for Astrum Aureus. - Done โ
124 - Added gores for Astrum Deus. - Done โ
huh, cool
SSO is 2.1 btw
2.1
bumblebird
it's peak...
unrelated but what would a DoG master mode pet look like?
Your worm, madam
Whereโs the one detail about Statis hunting you if you were to get on his bad side
In the doc
One hunter vs 5 speedruns, Terraria MANHUNT
wait shit the countdown
65 days until time between BH and SSO part 1 is longer than between R&D and draedon update
I don't remember where I saw this, but the question is, will it be in this update?
probably not
where the hell did you find this
It's in here
Ye Dia leaked a lot the other day
okok
is that a fucking m1grand in there 

yes
fuck yes
i assume that stuff is going to be in the mod at some point but probably not this update?
Wasnt there exo blade sprite?
It's Miracle Matter
me when im a plumber and looking at pipes
yes but it wasnt considered done and got removed
A ok
that fucking leaker that i hate
ah
me when im a plumber and theres a pipe that keeps leaking at a clients house
Miracle matter getting a redesign cause it sucks rn
No Tobias didn't wanna public the design and it was Dia's edit
So it's hidden for now
it's just a cube with color looking like flesh for now
i really like the direction it's going to tho
the colors are eye candy imo
It seems like 2.1 will be divided into 2 parts
Yeah sso being in 2 parts has been known for months
firstly hotbars and weapon redesign and the update of the forgotten sea and in the second already bosses and new content
What forgotten sea whaur
the translator is dumb

what are you talking about
is the SSO overhaul basically a caves & cliffs situation where the first update is all about items and mobs while part 2 is about generation?
what hotbars...
no
part 1 has generation and enemies and items
sso overhaul
part 2 has enemies and items
the translator is stupid again but that's what I'm talking about
chaรฏ tea
atm machine
The boss healthbars will be peak
these are probably not gonna be in the update, they arent even a highlight
if every boss has this kind of healthbar then am keeping it activated no matter what lmao
these look so good
I mean that in the first half the player will have new icons like...
No
sir just because its been made doesnt mean it will be in the update
There's very low chance those will be finished for SSO 1
m.. difficulties of the language barrier...
unless the artists are on steroids then no
the artists are using crack for enemies not ui
Remember when Iban finished Catastrophe animation in 2 days
peter what are you doing
crack
ccaione
what the fuck
He was going crazy with that one
I just said that as far as I know in the first half of the update the content will be dedicated to the forgotten sea and the redesign of the HP of bosses and the player and mana and so on
No
the second half is wrong
yeah
I'll clarify.. is there any information about what will happen in the first half and the second half?
and more than likely it wont be by the time of sso
as long as we don't have an actual word about ui if it's coming for the SSO or anny future update we can't tell
but yeah for now it's not confirmed
ok, fine, I got you
we just spoke about it but yeah, we do
Is this supposed to be boss bar or something?
yeah*
ye
part 1 is the overhaul to sunken sea generation, pre hardmode enemies and content, and other item and boss changes throughout
part 2 are the hardmode enemies and content, with more item and boss changes
part 1 is already peak anyway cuz there's a shrimp armor
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Thank you all for clarifying
real
real
I hope it makes me look fat
and shrimps are awesome
Fat armor is great I think
your greed sickens me
how armorious
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i'm in love with the exo armors
collect my shrimps
find my shrimps
ah.. exoarmor
5 helmet sets almost going extinct is truly peak
i havent heard anything about it
cause now there's some actual differences in armor progression based on your class
I agree with you.. I especially like the armor in the form of Ares because it is for tanking and I like to make builds for the shooter and at the same time huge survivability
Wtf is Mage Emblem supposed to be guh
like a spell idk
Is it a tooth
fireball
fireball
yea
It looks like a tooth
shit we had the same idea
Fireball
chonky
but I'm most looking forward to the exo tank
Hope it gets real this time
I'm waiting for the update just for him
astral is so wack it def should be a mage armorset i feel but it's in a horrible point in progression because deus is in a horrible point in progression
yeah
Draedon, give me that Exo Tank Draedon...
honestly it'd be great if the deus move happens
watch them be completely redesigned
because astral being a pre-prov mage set would be cool
for the 1000th time fortunately : D
just give it to me.
Nebula:
if rogue can get evil2 armor then the others can get their own too
because by that same logic empyrean exists
i was about to say the same thing lmao
The fuck
why are they rotated
Orios post evil 2 rogue armors are still real
that's why the provaned armor will be there too ig
I thought the evil 2 would hust be changed to fit whatever is at that stage
Not that it becomes post ml aswell
sinc ethey're for the other roles
They just won't be themed around evil 2 anymore
(aside from ranger because it sucks)
okay yeah that makes sense
because it's from a common screen
isnt profaned after providence
it wasn't for the guardians first?
since they're supposed to be tied to the priofaned guardian's roles
apparently it's after prov
the dog bar????? ๐ญ
I didn't do it, the author of the channel where I'm sitting did it
that dog bar is made up
one of these are not real lmao
well i be damned
for some reason I was sure that something here was not real
Horrid
it's actually after the guardians in the profaned biome
this feels like a youtube thumbnail with all the red arrows
why hasn't anyone made a hot dog with a... DOG yet
Dunno about that one
why
i need to reread that conversation
I even became interested... did someone make a picture as a joke where a DOG is inserting sausages into a hotdog bun...
I need to look for it..
????

yeah... it'll be hard to explain the joke...
here you go ig
Don't say it
i didn't find an image where a man is putting sausages...
almost what is needed, only the dog should be lying instead of the sausage
oh god can i just call him Devourer of Gods?
the translator CANNOT understand what I write from Russian to English
yeah thats fine
it's ok lol
I'll explain what I meant: instead of sausages there should be Devourer of Gods
like that?
gog
gog
because it is called a dog and the word hotdog also contains the word dog
hot dog
YES
g. get it
no i don't want to get it
unless you're speaking about dog feeling ahuge temperature
blog
this would definitely get at most a 7.20% in scrandle
if not less atp
btw i just seen a fucking disgusting ai image of a man with a hotdog while trying to find one
i hate ai fuck ai
skeleprime after the nerf
he really should add a drop in the form WD-40
exo mechs expert drop: WD-41
90% of the exomechs' power is based on it
oh speaking of, is that dog rework still happening?
Yeah?
okokm
I myself didn't fully understand, I came here to clarify information
I think I'm a little bit hooked on Calamity music
Fire
this is a masterpiece...
im saving this gif
Did you already have it or did you make it during this time?
made eet
This deserves to be in the game menu for April 1st
yes please
hes beautiful
can we talk about how the sepulcher summon sound is the rawest shit in the entire mod
".wav.ogg"
what is the mage emblem supposed to actually be cause it kinda looks like an ear
probably some generic mana wave attack thing
Fireball
im gonna stick with the ear
Fireball
it looks like an ear
Wizard time motherfucker i cast fireball
When is that sunken sea update coming out โ ๏ธ
tomorrow
ear
When its ready to
Pluh
rude buster...
Looks like a tooth
๐ถ๐๐๐๐๐ถ๐
youre angular
Fireball
thank you <33
YOU'RE bug infestation
one of these is not like the others
imposter
any spoilers today or yesterday?
curious
its da bag
scoog bag
I wonder if the left side is supposed to be converted items
i think the left converts to the right
in which case does this imply
- It is able to convert things into ash, hardened sand and sandstone aswell
- Depending on the block it converts it to diff things
Wait yeah
right* mb
Dirt turns into ash, stone turns into sand, clay turns into hardened sand, mud turns to sadnstone
honestly amazing qol item for builders ngl
also why did you kill garbo
it was necessary
easy source of those 4 blocks (Notably sand which is annoying to get and really helpful for building in various ways, but the 3 others are also v nice) + way to easily store dirt, stone, clay and mud, which you usually have a shit ton of
sorry garbo
yeah i needed to
๐
its okay
reposting this because there isnt much to talk about
big ass mandibles on that sunken scourge
mouth makes up 70% of it's body-weight
old sprite based on scourge 1.0 iirc
Everyone say hello, Orios
wonder if we're gonna have any more ghost enemies in the timeless shore or if the rest are just gonna be all zombies
you didn't fix the thing
wha thing
you're supposed to put back the second leerslug and delete the gray slugbun
also please add something that says which sprites are scrapped i genuinely don't understand why you won't
please get your eyes checked
if sprites are scrapped why would you leave them on there
exactly
Because why not
because its misleading
and unnecessarily confusing
ok but still should kill gray slugbun
You're taking this too seriously
idk when people are messing with me
whar
there is no gray slugbun
are they talking about the leftmost one?
skull
Brian Griffin from family guy
I told u twice I thought u just ignoring me so I'm like ok
i'm just dumb ok ๐ญ
brian fucked
lmao
i have gained brain damage but i also know when an acid is considered strong
my request seems to have been accepted
Brian Griffin
when it damages your brain
that's when it's strong
also correct
i know how to make a ceramic glaze but i havve become an idiot
so which sprites besides sunken scourge have been scrapped??
and slithering death
also vanillin leerslug is still called magmaggot in the future doc
uhhh, and carrion swallower, slithering death, and haunted chum are wips
is slithering death wip or scrapped
i cant edit it rn not at my computer
being remade iirc
p sure that what they said
yeah
i didn't know carrion or chum were wips tho
and hermititan?
i think triangle wanted to touch up the entire group
the sprite's scrapped iirc
i very vaguely remember hearing about hermititan
also shouldn't cnidrion be listed in timeless shores
if clam is
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i love that olm
yep
ah only bad news today ๐
only the sprite is scrapped
gully olm itself is still a thing
Hi cst
Noooooo you can't do this to me
i know i just liked the design

11 days since last changelogs
12 for me
time zone moment
11 for me too
what timezones yall in
15 days since last changelogs...
do i miss somethngto spawn anahita
been using water candle and spawn rate increase
this is for talking about future content
like the name of a certain doc i know
i wouldnt know anything about that
Who?
with all of the reworks & additions, a ranged playthrough for SSO is probably gonna be a blast
A playthrough will be a blast
best feature of a ranged playthrough is that the hog will speak to me
with all of the reworks & additions, a _ _ playthrough for SSO is probably gonna be a blast
true
Snail
only like 17 ranged weapons are getting reworked that we know of
compared to melee's 40

melee.........
there's also the accessories like the bangles & scion's curio
ig
also ranged is kinda my main class so i'm more excited for it specifically
ew
Yur cringe
Ranger has the most interesting weapons at every stage of the game in the arsenal compared to other classes
or I'd say
modernized arsenal
it has the most
just need more accs ๐ซ
mfw the only accessory worth a shit after mid hardmode is post dog
i like gun
?
i like flamethrower
Mage Summoner and Rogue can have the priorities in weapons modernization aspect next

flamethrowers are based yeah
I love xyk reworks 1400 base damage weapons are the best
I'd say right now, just don't touch most bows
go my infinity + metanova
those are the lowest for Ranger
yeah my last playthrough i was surprised at just how terrible every bow was after phm
What in the fuck
stormbow my beloved
there's no reason to ever use bows
there's always a gun that's better
last ranged playthrough i did i mainly used flamethrowers and launches cause they're a lot of fun
daedalus stormbow
flak kraken my beloved
only hardmode bow that's worth anything
except MAYBE the plantera legendary item
whatsit called
blossom flux
Lunarian Bow line are so awful ๐ฅ
๐
maybe... make it as powerful as back then....
sacrifice helborn if you need to
i remember lunarian bow being cracked a couple years ago but this playthrough i forgot to use it 
so idek
lunarian bow was bis for its tier some time ago yea
I mainly talk about how it feels awful af to play with
Lunarian Bow and Vernal Bolter are literally the same shit with different skins
The bow looks like it should be doing so much more then like
2 green dust lasers

reworked planetary annihilation...............................................................
Guh
When post ml hivemind dropped they should make the mage weapon shoot eow
That's not gonna cut it
The charge mechanic economy has been going insane
I need to know what else it gonna do
Is the entire line gonna resemble Heavenly Gale or that one will get reworked too
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why would heavenly gale be reworked again
Bows with charge mechanics my beloved
riddle me this kiriblight
Who knows
They might have better idea for ultimate bow 
we already have an ultimate bow, silly
I mean cmon now Pristine Fury right click didn't live long

evil nickname
wow look at these very update sprites.......
bloodworm is getting removed?
wยดhy
wouldnt sulphrons resprite also be removed since old [redacted] wont be a fishron
therell be a new way to fight old duke when hes reworked
I would like to complete this picture, but I can't...
cuz old duke is getting removed too
he'll be replaced by smth else
real?
i mean he kinda sucks so fair
it's not 100% confirmed but it's the most certain possibility
it's mentioned in the doc
and yeah everyone agreed on that
Ship of theseus the old duke
here before someone goes "TECHNICALLY he's not being removed"
ppl get way too pressed over an optional boss
but i agree he sucks and shouldnโt be inbetween polter and dog
he shouldn't be in the game to begin with
like if you want to make a duke boss atleast don't make it extremely similar to normal duke
Signus fits as inbetween polter and dog
each rework he got worsened him more and more
yeah
now it'll depends on who will replace him now
any news on calamity update
yeah it's releasing in 2 seconds
Its the biggest one by size of changelogs
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i saw somewhere that they adding yharim and xeroc?
Not this update hell naw
The current update is about overhauling the sunken sea
Paul alien smirk gif
Yharim is planned to be possibly the last update with noxus and xeroc as things afterwards if the devs still have energy to make them
New spoiler
got catfished
Close
What if they replace old Duke with
Leviathan sized trasher
an actually good boss that doesn't use vanilla ai maybe?
Replace old Duke with the original leviathan sprite but shaded brown
after old duke, now we got old leviathan
Gunk Zero my beloved
lies
Old Duke's main issue is literally just he looks like Duke Fishron
the fight itself is remarkably okay for a fabsol boss
Am I colorblind or did the dev color change
gradient
Does for me
Skill issue for you only
Maybe i need to update
no you dont
preferably go back a few updates
mobile discord new update is never good
You really hate everything
no no
he has a point
im still on the mobile ui from like 2023 or some shit
before the first abhorrent mobile ui update
ah yes my favorite video game Metal Tgear Grising
Grevengeance
psst, install aliucord, it has the old discord layout and is one of the only remaining mobile clients
along with all of your other modded discord goodies like themes and nice plugins
you're SO real for that ong
๐๏ธ
thanks my spoiler graph maker minion
ayo?
does it let me see shit like discord polls and forwarding
No
I mod for a partnered server i'm not installing a modded client
teehee
people always complain about discord updates but ive liked all of them
im sorry for u
I don't mind em
The old duke replacement will still be there
Unless i missed something
Sentencing you to only being able to notice all the bugs and issues with discord
polls no (the only thing u can see from poll related messages is the outcome message), but forwarding works
the polls feature is really close to being released
I would be careful with that though discord doesn't like it when people use third party stuff for their accounts
does it work on ios....
thats nice
Yeah no discord will ban you if they discover you have a third party client
any evidence I give is anecdotal ofc but they've never done anything to any of me or my friends' accs
iirc all of it is client sided so there's no way for them to even detect you're using it
And they do find out
They will find out 
That's fair I guess, but I still would not recommend discussing it
they wont
It's against tos
I have :)
ok
Gonna get the server shutdown ๐
Uhhh calamity spoiler
If it wasn't a ToS violation I wouldn't care tbh
erm uhhh erre
mmmm resprites nomnomnom yummy

I should start learning how to sprite tbh
made a grand total of two (2) half decent sprites, kept tinkering on those same 2 for ages and never made a third
say, why is this called truthduke......


What is this supposed to be anyway
breaking news: duke replacement confirmed to be a boulder
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Why is it attached to a human
Why does it then turn into nuclear abomination
What is in that egg that turns the human into THAT
HADEAN WILDS TOMORROW
What a calamity
TODAY
(Nah there's still a lot to do)
Hadean wilds in 5
4
(I left the showcase video on Shayy's jurisdiction and the builds themselves will come with SSO)

from what I understand hadean wilds is basically a pack of structures right?
Yea
Yeah
Who did the underworld gen anyway
splendid
Fabsol
Well then Iโm automatically worried about it
was it designed by fabsol though
or did he just code it in
assuming it was the latter theoretically it should be Fine unless he found a way to somehow fuck that up too
Well now it's another dev I think
multiple devs have said it was pretty good
I would hope it doesnโt just turn most of the underworld into a barren plain so you get a free Wall arena
they're touching it up though
The only way i can see this happening is if either the ingame worldgen is not at all like what the designers where trying to envision or if the worldgen code is just really bad and glitchy and causes worldgen errors at the time
fabsol talked about it beofre the incident and said it wasnt going to be that
Which i don't think calamity has many cases of the latter?
allegedly it's getting tossed anyway? when the bigger underworld reworks happen
So i think it's probably fine
Exaggerated but that was more or less the idea
it wasnt?
No?
What does the seven red suns mean
it was not ever going to be that
He is the last person I trust
Valid!
okay and other devs backed it up as i said
so there you go
Rain world probably
Fabsol handled actually coding world generation and added in the buildings
ngl he probably copied the remix seed gen
And like we are getting a bunch of structures stip is making
so like
evidently its not that
It's generally flat but we are making sure it's not just a free Wall arena
There are things there
oh hi Reb
Will ash trees n grass still be mostly relegated to the forest on the right
Though it's still going to be a lot easier to traverse than normal Underworld
Is it at least more possible to fight wof without arena now?
hopefully with less giant fucking brick towers
By virtue of Underworld worldgen being just
it already is w/ crags
Extremelly aggressive
From what stip said i'm under the assumption there will still be towers but they'll be mostly concentrated on a speciifc region
makes sense
Calamity hell town---hadean wilds---underworld towers or sumn
I thiiiiink the idea was to rearrange that corner into the middle? But I'm not sure
Underworld gen might be worked on by another dev in the future, but I dunno when or whether it'll be pre-SSO
If i remember what they mentioned before
Yeah
Does this qualify for the underworld getting a lite edition of the sub-biome treatment that all the calamity biomes seem to be getting
I'll choose to believe that because it's funny
I mean by all means it seems like it
A lite version because they're not actual different biomes
Buttttt
New calamity biome yay
What will get replaced by the profaned biome? When that eventually happens?
There's different sectors with different worldgen within the biome and i believe that the idea of mobs that only spawn in specific areas is not out of question due to i think the ash forest mata mata triangle talked about reallyyy long ago
So clearly
This is just Underworld Overhaul Lite
:clearly:
Underworld got the calamity sub-biome treatment, nature truly is beautiful
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I would personally pick the forest
Makes sense
So the forest would get moved to being around the center and the rightmost forest would get the profaned biome?
Given that's directly under the jungle and eulibloom, which is unlocked by providence, is there
uelibloom is dying
ash wood is now unobtainable 
Heaven forbid
no more plant ores
Uelibloom is getting hyper killed it makes no sense
exploding kiri
Chlorophyte
I already said that the idea was to rearrange the forest into the middle
So there wouldn't be a rightmost forest
So would you just entirely replace the middle forest with the profaned biome...?
Or am i misunderstanding
Cuz tbh idk if i like that idea
Yeah that's what I'm saying basically, I think that'd work as long as we made ash wood renewable in another way
But of course that's just my opinion
Profaned biome is cool and all but basically removing a vanilla biome (Well. Not really a full on biome but, ygwim) that is genuinely some pretty nice looking worldgen and could have some cool critters on it at one point since interest on that sort of thing has been talked about is
ehhhhhhh
Make it found like slightly above the underworld or something
I personally think we should eat Reb but of course that's just my opinion
i agree stip
I approve
I mean, hey that fits thematically

Like, imagine the transition if it was like jungle-> ash woods -> profaned biome/other parts of hell
I think that could fit
Reb is not cooking with this one
eats u
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removing ash forest is eh
What the fuck........
Also like, the entire reason I even suggest it is because
Ash Forest is basically already a Profaned Biome by name

Man, I can't wait for the Flame Dragon Daimon....
the whom
reb theyre alr renewable
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u just need ash grass which can be gotten from dryad in the underworld
Or maybe just put the profaned biome here or something
The conversion can be done without being massively destructive, is what I mean
I think my only remaining question with the whole underworld thing is
I think it'd be cooler if the jungle vegetation slowly transitioned into the scorched ground of the profaned biome
And that transition is the ash forest
Isnโt this going to destroy any dreams of Calamity working with nearly any other content mod again
I just want the trees and grass somewhere

doesn't even have to be very big
Underworld domain isnโt even in the underworld
Me when I just say things sometimes
MoR is getting some eventually
There is the bastion from Redemption yeah
Hello melon gun the โfree from moon lordโ
I mean maybe but 2 Calamity biomes specifically taking up 60% of hell sounds like a bit much
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Elements Awoken could
Unfortunately the mod is pretty much dead :(
I mean i don't htink that should be a worry tbh
Likeee
Unlike the balance issues making the mod not-workable with other mods
Also why u aureus killer
Which, to be honest is just strictly detrimental i think
I don't think the developers of a mod should refrain from adding content
just because it'd cause conflict with other mods they aren't really obligated to care about
because the mod is at the end of the day intended to be experienced by itself
The question is, is there a way to make these additions without (or at least reducing) compatibility issues
garbo will NOT okay with her name
say, how is crossmod balance these days
Because yah, adding more large-scale worldgen content is inherently disruptive to crossmod
Reducing compatibility issues is fine, but i don't think that like, it should be something actively built towards
If u guys can do it, thats nice
But if u cant, oh well, yk?
Atleast
don't know much other than the postml deflation of old
thats my philosophy on it
I think Cal has a decent philosophy for balancing overall but yeah we went a bit too far I think
General power level of things and the methodology through which we deem something balanced
yeah like i can understand calling out the b alance stuff as an issue because it's not really helping calamity's gameplay be better and its just making crossmod outright unviable so i see it as purely detrimental since
its kinda just worse for bot hparties i mean
but on the other hand ill say that actual like, content, like a biome rework
yeah itd be nice if you can get it to have a bit of mod compatibility but that shouldnt b the focus
The heart of this issue seems to be Revengeance self-balance
^
The most controversial one is always Defense Damage where everyone has different opinions on it, and like I think Xyk has the most sane take on it
Itโs a new higher difficulty so you gotta give it bigger numbers because that was natural logic back in the day
But then you have to give everything bigger numbers to compensate
what is xyx's very sane and normal take on it...
Defense Damage means that no matter how far you stack defense, being repeatedly hit by stuff will always bring you down. It makes stacking these accessories weaker, in turn meaning that there are diminishing returns to it.
This means that we can allow each defensive accessory to be far more powerful on their own, allowing for mixed builds to actually feel like their defensive accessories are pulling weight
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I am of the opinion that without defense damage, our individual defensive accessories will fall from being individually great, with full tank build being very strong but not unkillable due to defense damage, to be individually underwhelming, being virtually useless outside of the possible facetank builds we will have to take into account.
Even if we are fine with facetanking as a concept existing, the fact it is an option will greatly hamper the individual strength of our defensive accessories. This has been a problem with many other mods and leads to much more rigid player build variety, where your build has to spec a ton of slots for tank builds to really feel bulky, or you put none on and go full mobility or damage or mix of those two.
clearly the solution to defense damage is to give defense diminishing returns like dr has

dr decay...
Funny graph
i don't really see other games having this issue
is that just because of how terraria and its defense work?
For a second I thought you said Doctor Decay before I read up a bit
Let's see if we can make this game balanced without Defense Damage
If that proves impossible, it's staying, but we'll still revise some of it
isnt defense damage started at bloodflare set bonus
then expanded to passive effect
Like making sure that not every fucking attack in the game inflicts DD
antlion charger defense damage ๐
"Does it inflict defense damage?" would be a fun game to play with the boss projectiles list in Cal's source
facetanking antlion charger. outrageous
I really like Catastrophe only inflicts DD and Cataclysm only inflicts V.Hex
Fab's policy to DD is the one time where "it makes sense" as an argument made me want to kill someone
I really hope this comes to fruition and the gordian knot of changes slowly gets untangled
Can't. Can't have people facetanking. Can't have people facetanking hoplite spears am i right or am i right
-# make it so only strong attack inflicts DD
javelin hurts
like
a lot
That was the original intent but apparently fab forgot halfway through or something
Hoplite javelin
so we face tank every normal attacks? (strong attacks are usually rarer) 
hoplites too hard I need a Guide:Hoplite Strategies
Hoplite boss
Logic and fab do not mix 
Guh
wuh
Yharim when the player uses Hoplite armor (the mercy button from Undertale appears on screen)
its called GLADIATOR armour you UNCULTURED dev
Yharim when I use calamitas as a meat shield to make him feel bad
I know you silly
I am merely saying it is the armor from the Hoplite enemy, not stating its name
I already compiled a list of this actually
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There are 16 sources of damage in the Exo Mechs fight
Based cit as usual
14 inflict defense damage
honestly quite incredible
Good job Draedon
imagine gauss nuke didn't do defense damage
what did Draedon mean by this
Exoplasma bolts inflicting defense damage ๐ฅ
is one of the sources actually miracle blight 
will the magnomaly cannon ever be resprited
ANOTHER PLASMA BOLT L
if the miracle matter weapons are already getting another another resprite
just because you said that, never
resprite cancelled
Calamity Mod spoiler
Mag cannon is โbecomingโ surge driver probably

iirc it did have its resprite finished and posted but it didn't come out in time so oops redo
what.
can i see it
the miracle saw launcher
no way invisible dye
tf? thats the elemental blaster
the magnomaly cannon isn't an upgrade of that

unless they're changing it to be an upgrade of it

...
Does he know
he doesn't know
Getting gaslit

anyways does anyone know how to make the enemies stop killing my gem critters
in the aether
holy crap that would have been epic
YuH will now obliterate you
very magnomaly cannon resprite that is very much still happening 
anomalous
yes

Surge driver will be your post-exos launcher have fun
im trying to afk
with a water candle and battle cry (basically spawn increasers)
and town npcs
ah right forgot to switch channels
I assume from the reresprite that rereworks are on the way right
probably not
any big changes like miracle saw launcher? or just functionally the same


