calamity-update-talk

[arctic cliff]

hang on

[hard copper]

Maybe remove weavers armored phase, and have dog do that instead. Imagine the shock of seeing dogs unarmored form when phase 2 starts

[arctic cliff]

no it doesnt mention anything about draedon making more armor for another distortion worm

[thick coyote]

storm weaver is basically just an animal

a really strong one

[hard copper]

Yeah

[vernal crane]

hi, seeing the orderbringer rework again,
is there a rework planned for greatsword of judgement?

[lapis oak]

yes

[vernal crane]

YEESSS

[lapis oak]

both got reworked

[vernal crane]

neattttttt old aotc was what drew me to calamity but i didnt have a good computer to play the mod on till after the rework

im not sure which i prefer now, but

why not both

[lapis oak]

both!!!

everything will be absolute cinema

[vernal crane]

do we have any ideas as to what update its comin in?

or when>

?

[summer shore]

it will be in sso

[lapis oak]

nop

oh

[vernal crane]

oooo

[lapis oak]

I thought you were asking when the date drops

😢

[vernal crane]

LMAO i was askn that too

[summer shore]

[lapis oak]

no dates

[vernal crane]

anyways ty

oh what about the uh

other elemental weapons

[summer shore]

It could still have armor

[vernal crane]

arc and blaster got their reworks

[vivid hemlock]

some are getting resprited, like shiv, axe and eruption

[summer shore]

Like idk some sort of crab shell

[vivid hemlock]

eruption also got reworked silly

[summer shore]

Eruption did?

[lapis oak]

yes all of them will get the deserved reworks

but for now

[summer shore]

Oh right

[lapis oak]

some will get resprited and name changed in SSO

[summer shore]

Back in flamethrower update

[thick coyote]

yeah i guess so! i was too stuck in picturing the current design

[lapis oak]

no reworks yet

[vernal crane]

ooh i iddnt notice cause the sprite was the same lmaoo

[thick coyote]

but a redesign to make the armor shell like

thatd work

[vivid hemlock]

yeah

thankfully sso changes that

[vernal crane]

yess

[vivid hemlock]

now the rest still need resprites and reworks

[vernal crane]

no others are comin during SSO?

[lapis oak]

Eruption got resprited? 🤔

[vivid hemlock]

_ _

[vernal crane]

missed that somehow

[vivid hemlock]

for now i dont think an elemental rework will come in

[lapis oak]

oh right I didn't look at... the chart...

[vernal crane]

neat
the new elementals are amainzing

and their

[vivid hemlock]

unless like a programmer decides to

[vernal crane]

whats it calleds

like

their unique anims

are so aweosm

when the goddess gorged in flame looks at you funny so you prepare the pizza cutter:

[summer shore]

Superradiant slaughterer

Wait til you see its upgrade...

[vernal crane]

its gettin its own AotC?

are all of them?

[summer shore]

its getting its own exoblade

[thick coyote]

Elemental weapons upgrade into Miracle Matter weapons

[vernal crane]

ohhh so a miracle matter

[thick coyote]

so it gets that

[vernal crane]

yeah makes sense

[vivid hemlock]

vanishing point -> unnamed miracle spear
augur of the void -> subsuming vortex
nucleosynthesis -> vivid clarity
starbust shiv -> exoblade
legion of celestia -> cosmic immaterializer
planetary annihilation -> heavenly gale
unnamed elemental bomb -> supernova
rebounding rainbow -> celestus
superradiant slaughterer -> unnamed miracle saw launcher
flowers of mortality -> unnamed miracle flower summon
chromatic eruption -> photoviscerator

[summer shore]

This

[vivid hemlock]

basically just this

[buoyant pulsar]

why is purge guzzler

called that

[summer shore]

It guzzles purges

[lapis oak]

oh right

an Elemental bomb is coming ye

[buoyant pulsar]

what's the naming convention of new MM aesthetic? is it gonna be any different?

are existing names gonna be tweaked at all?

[vivid hemlock]

idk

[brave star]

I like the evolution

[summer shore]

hyperradiant laughterer surely

[lapis oak]

probably most just gonna stay the same? 🤔

names don't have to be literal

[buoyant pulsar]

what would the exo spear be called

[vivid hemlock]

exoblade is the only one i could see being renamed

[summer shore]

Heaven piercer

[vernal crane]

is it gettin changed again, or by new do u mean the current ones

[vivid hemlock]

miracle matter is being redesigned

[vernal crane]

are all the exo weapons as well?

[vivid hemlock]

no

those are from the exo mechs

[vernal crane]

no i mean like

exoblade n such

[vivid hemlock]

miracle matter is the stuff made from the material

[dense sundial]

The Glaggler

[vernal crane]

yeah the shadowspec ingredient

[lapis oak]

Exo drops are not Miracle Matter

[summer shore]

The giggler

[vivid hemlock]

what

[vernal crane]

am i misrememberng

aint MM used for shadowspec

[summer shore]

exo prism ≠ miracle matter

[vernal crane]

i know the ashes are

[vivid hemlock]

exo prism is

not mm

[vernal crane]

ahh

ig that makes sense

so is the exoblade weapon set bein redesigned again?

[vivid hemlock]

miracle matter is the the cube thats used for the building sized weapons

[vernal crane]

im aware, i just got the name of the set wrong 😭

[lapis oak]

yes

all of this minus Excalibur

redesigned and resprited

[vivid hemlock]

see this is why exoblade needs to be renamed

[vernal crane]

do we know what itll look like?
or the general aesthetic

[lapis oak]

oh ye

[vernal crane]

oh

[lapis oak]

we do

[vivid hemlock]

miracle saw launcher as an example

[lapis oak]

they're basically inverse of Elemental

[vivid hemlock]

(i hate reposting this shit every single day)

[vernal crane]

can i see the whole sheet or do we not have it

[vivid hemlock]

no and no

[lapis oak]

whole sheet is redacted (not much is censored anyways)

that saw is most of it

[vernal crane]

are they all gonna share this color scheme?

[vivid hemlock]

theres also a wip heavenly gale

[vivid hemlock]

i mean

you can just look at it

[lapis oak]

for the Crystals? no, different weapons will have different Crystal colors

[vernal crane]

oooo

[lapis oak]

like the Elemental set

[strong isle]

The Throngler

[vernal crane]

nicee

[vivid hemlock]

pale branches, black crystals with corresponding colors according to class, blood red energy exhaust

[shell sapphire]

We do have other examples of new miracle matter weapons redesigns

[lapis oak]

the bow

[vernal crane]

oh, its class correspondant?
how did i not notice that

[vivid hemlock]

the elemental set is gonna do a similar thing

[shell sapphire]

And sword

I think

[lapis oak]

nah

[vivid hemlock]

exoblade wasnt meant to be public

[lapis oak]

sword was edited

[shell sapphire]

Oooohhhhhh

[vivid hemlock]

and yeah its an edit of the actual sprite

[lapis oak]

sword's was Dia's edits

[shell sapphire]

Kk

[lapis oak]

it's not the actual colors Tobias said

[shell sapphire]

I must’ve not read that part

[vernal crane]

this concept art is outdated, yes?
cause the dev left

but itll be similar to it?

[shell sapphire]

The M1 grand is heat though

[lapis oak]

this was before 22

ye it's outdated

[shell sapphire]

Most definitely

[vivid hemlock]

#404775052005867530 message

[vernal crane]

but the aesthetic's still the same? its just execution thatll change? (like the blaster to the slaughterer)

[lapis oak]

yes

[lyric trellis]

Iridescent Excalibur being the guy nobody invited

[lapis oak]

😔

but because of that we got a yummy sprite 🥹

[vernal crane]

is the draedon armor still planned?

[vivid hemlock]

yes

[vernal crane]

neatttt
is that SSO or after?

[vivid hemlock]

if you need to theres a document in the channels pins where you can find most public info on future content

[vivid hemlock]

after

[shell sapphire]

Fish

[lapis oak]

Draedon armor tier 1 might get in SSO, if they finish it in time

the UI tho... 😨

[summer shore]

Can't wait for draedon update 2.0 where they'll rework exos, add exo armor, add exos theme, and rework/resprite all miracle matter stuff

[vivid hemlock]

its arsenal tier 1

[fringe quiver]

draedonious

[lapis oak]

I'm still correct

[fringe quiver]

remember draedon bars? good times...

[vivid hemlock]

also the draedon armor is called exo armor

and does not have any tiers

silly goose

[summer shore]

Were you even born when draedon bars are alive

[fringe quiver]

what the fuck is that text behind the flamethrower

utterly incomprehensible

[fringe quiver]

yes

it is a well established part of cheese lore that cheese is old

i miss anomalocaris

[summer shore]

That's the blaster actually

[summer shore]

Smth smth mihaii didn't know about slaughterer

[inner thunder]

guys they should make menacing and lucky get stronger throughout the game just like warding does

[arctic cliff]

this crashout text always gets me every time

[lapis oak]

6 minutes wasted, Mihai crashed out

[vivid hemlock]

the text is about blaster

but the art is of the eruption

[fringe quiver]

mihai had a whole ass villain monologue godamn

[summer shore]

fr?

[vivid hemlock]

no im lying

[summer shore]

killing you

vakillin

[vivid hemlock]

[summer shore]

[vivid hemlock]

zara? like.... zarachard??????

[mossy sapphire]

magnomaly cannon:

i mean ig no one cares about it anyways but still

[lapis oak]

it's being changed into the Saw Launcher

[dull heart]

ur a saw launcher

[lapis oak]

D;

[agile latch]

why would it be weird btw

[buoyant pulsar]

why is lazhar getting removed

genuine question

[empty yarrow]

Pretty sure its cause its generic, its just Heat Ray but faster

Or cause of Pillar Weapon bloat? Maybe both

[barren nacelle]

I’m curious is the triangle elemental bow still real

[lapis oak]

probably

haven't heard any changes about that being scrapped 🤔

[dense sundial]

I honestly think the pillar upgrades as a whole shouldn’t exist

Vanilla pillar weapons plus meld is enough for me

And the upgrades are pretty random too. What do heat ray and horseman’s blade and xenopopper have to do with the pillars?

[lyric trellis]

Coincidentally those are the worst ones by tier and in general

[barren nacelle]

I think conceptually they’re neat, like yeah here’s some weapons made on tier using pillar materials.

But I think the most confusing part for me is the fragment choice

I think the weapons would be a lot cooler if:

• They used their class fragments
• They we’re actually good

[buoyant pulsar]

lazhar uses solar because its heat ray

golem is specifically sun energy

[lapis oak]

ye different class weapon uses different fragments is the most bothering part

[buoyant pulsar]

idk i kinda like lazhar being where it is

i like the weapon type variety

plus lazhar fills a good niche at the specific spot it's in

[pulsar cobalt]

i stg if u say the niche is piercing im gonna die

[lyric trellis]

The reasoning is

“Solar ~ heat/somehow melee
Vortex ~ storm/more vaguely ranged
Nebula ~ explosives/kinda magic
Stardust ~ summons something organic”

[pulsar cobalt]

because single target is not a niche for melee at that stage

[buoyant pulsar]

it doesn't

pierce

[lapis oak]

Lazhar is magic

[pulsar cobalt]

fuck

[lapis oak]

u tupid

[pulsar cobalt]

i meant mage

ur tupid

[pulsar cobalt]

i know

[lapis oak]

😢

[pulsar cobalt]

its just that a Fuck Ton™️ of ppl still think it pierces for some reason

actually i do know the reason

[buoyant pulsar]

gotta be honest i thought it did when i made it like 2 hours ago

[pulsar cobalt]

it used to be heat rays entire identity !

and vanilla changed that !!!

[lapis oak]

3 magic guns

at that stage

[buoyant pulsar]

the magic guns run in question:

yeah im eating good rn lol

nano purge is fine, gatling laser is fine, not making swarmer

wingman was awesome

probably still good but not better than lazhar

[cobalt wharf]

lazhar is just the exact same as heat ray except it spawns a vanilla explosion projectile on hit

[buoyant pulsar]

i like the burst damage from the grenades but the startup after firing them is too long imo

[pulsar cobalt]

its different cuz it inflicts daybroken

[cobalt wharf]

waow debuff

[buoyant pulsar]

also it uhhhh has spread

[lapis oak]

😨

[lyric trellis]

It does stuff

[lapis oak]

I would like to save that spot for a more unique weapon honestly

[acoustic shell]

Im here again to further support this

This would be so dope and you guys could make the evil biomes spread even harder than hardmode activation to fit the preferators / hive mind replacement

[lapis oak]

👎

biome spread is one of the worst mechanics

[vivid hemlock]

trauma reaction to seeing this image again

[acoustic shell]

Lazy

[dusty tinsel]

Biome spread is bad this is why I use the evil begon mod so it stops the spread

[acoustic shell]

Lazy

[hard copper]

based

[acoustic shell]

This still fire tho

It would be for the better but like people r hoarders and cant move on

[hard copper]

I like to take my time with my playthrough and would rather not have the evil biomes on my ass the whole time, that isnt fun

[vivid hemlock]

me when my desert is engulfed by evil biome spread

[acoustic shell]

Well maybe the evil biomes could just become harsher instead of spreading

if the boss placement changes do happen

[fringe quiver]

why do u keep gassing up an idea developers havent shown any interest on and everyone told u isnt good

just like move on man

[acoustic shell]

someone said like 80% of the devs were on board with it

[fringe quiver]

😭 ?

who said that dawg

[vivid hemlock]

no one likes evil biome spread

[acoustic shell]

Triangle

[acoustic shell]

Thats not what im talking about

I meant this

[acoustic shell]

1 sec

[fringe quiver]

i'm not talking about the boss swap

[pulsar cobalt]

theyre talking about biome spread

[fringe quiver]

thats a cool and awesome and good idea that is in fact liked by most developers

[pulsar cobalt]

[dusty tinsel]

Why did you post that again and not just reply to it lol

[fringe quiver]

im talking about you repeatedly gassing up your own biome spread idea

[acoustic shell]

oh W

Nono the biome spread i understand

[vivid hemlock]

this channel makes me want to start taking hard liquor

[acoustic shell]

I meant like the biomes could become harsher post ml

[fringe quiver]

oh just like

[acoustic shell]

unhealthy

[fringe quiver]

new enemies and stuff

yea thatll probably happen

[pulsar cobalt]

agreed

[vivid hemlock]

thats a thing a lot of devs want to happen

[fringe quiver]

theres 1 concept art for a post ml crimson enemy already

[dusty tinsel]

Biome spread should be nuked

[lapis oak]

even Don't Starve, a hardcore survival game with its strictly time based limit for a lot of stuff doesn't even have this terrible spreading mechanic 😨

[acoustic shell]

yeah it really is a fantastic idea, not to mention the dragonfolly reworked to be queen be tier, i can picture a airelite armored bird

[lapis oak]

why would I ever want this, terrible thing to spread faster in my sandbox game

[vivid hemlock]

generally more lategame content is healthy

[acoustic shell]

i hope it isn't just a random boss tho and has some sort of theme

[vivid hemlock]

since its so

empty

right now

especially enemies

[fringe quiver]

6 enemies

🙏

[acoustic shell]

Im mostly hyped to see the new designs for preferators and hive mind if they do go post moon lord

[acoustic shell]

😭💔

[vivid hemlock]

devs i need an arch wyvern in post ml for literally no reason please

[dusty tinsel]

Perforator is gonna be like a hydra looking thing

But crimsonified

[dull heart]

the oracle has aura

[acoustic shell]

I do wonder if you guys will rework the music to be more vanilla, but it seems that fables is already doing that and not gonna lie redoing calamity's music would be a crime

[fringe quiver]

no sorry perforators will just be eater of worlds but red

[dull heart]

yeah uh

[hard copper]

auracle?

[fringe quiver]

it iwll be called perforator (singular)

[dull heart]

we cannot replace any of the dokuro music

[vivid hemlock]

hivemind is brain of cthulhu but green

[dusty tinsel]

I am going to remove every single atom from your body 1 by 1

[lapis oak]

replacing Dokuro music???

[dull heart]

that would be just about the worst decision we could make

[fringe quiver]

calsad

[lapis oak]

insane person

[vivid hemlock]

nope

calamity will not go for vanilla style music

[fringe quiver]

there are a few songs that could probably be replaced but its only a very few of them that dont really fit with the bosses

aka servants of the scourge

[vivid hemlock]

id recommend fables and spirit for that

[flat vine]

“We cant” as in “we really don’t want to”
Or “we literally can’t”?

[vivid hemlock]

they have very good vanilla style tracks

[dull heart]

i will stab whoever replaces servants of the scourge

[flat vine]

Not being rude just curious

[pulsar cobalt]

ill stab u for wanting to keep it

[dull heart]

we can't as in "it would be a very bad idea to from a PR perspective"

[lapis oak]

I'll stab you for disagree with wanting to keep it

[flat vine]

Eulogy of the ego is a track I don’t see many people giving praises

It’s a goated track

[pulsar cobalt]

and ill give u electrons

IDIOT

[fringe quiver]

its a good song but it also makes all of them feel like glorified minibosses with how they're all incredibly similar and just smaller covers of the theme of a later boss 💔

[lapis oak]

😭

[vivid hemlock]

servants of the scourge is kinda uninspired so 🥀

[dull heart]

like there's very few things that would get more people mad at calamity than killing a dokuro song

[fringe quiver]

servants of the scourge worked well for what it was

[thick coyote]

people really see servants of the scourge in the title and say "this is the most unfitting music ever" even though at this point the musical motifs are for the distortion and not exclusively for DoG

[pulsar cobalt]

unfortunately wat it was does not work for wat they r now

[flat vine]

Fair, I don’t think people would be too happy especially with how synonymous tracks like ROTJD and universal collapse

[dusty tinsel]

Clearly what needs to happen is have dokuro make the songs that replace them

[dull heart]

what if

[celest cape]

I just kinda have TMod muted so I can play my own stuff.

[dull heart]

the scourge

[fringe quiver]

thats not a valid justification tbh

like yeah

[dusty tinsel]

Noxus is the scourge now

[dull heart]

is the friends we made along the way

[fringe quiver]

you could argue its more of a distortion motif!

but also

the songs are like

[flat vine]

The real calamity were the friends we made along the way

[pulsar cobalt]

identical

[fringe quiver]

all incredibly similar to eachother and are literally covers of devourer's theme

[pulsar cobalt]

theyre fucking identical is wat they are

[fringe quiver]

it's not just using the motif it's literally covers

[celest cape]

To me, the official Exo Mechs theme is Collective Consciousness.

[pulsar cobalt]

u could switch them and u wouldnt notice

[dull heart]

I would

[thick coyote]

i dont really care it still works and gives the distortion bosses a very distinct audio identity

[dull heart]

(not for Signus)

[thick coyote]

also yes i would notice

[flat vine]

I just wonder what “theme” of music yharim would be whenever he comes out

[dull heart]

But I would notice void for sure

[lapis oak]

I would notice

[dull heart]

Probably weaver

[lapis oak]

Tuki is not real

😇

[pulsar cobalt]

correct "tuki" is not real

[fringe quiver]

You can preserve the same audio identity by using motifs in way that fits with their identity rather

[vivid hemlock]

im putting you in electron debt

[fringe quiver]

Calamity sundowner

[dull heart]

Servants of the Scourge Type Y

[fringe quiver]

🥰

[pulsar cobalt]

who is real and requires electrons is a person called kiri

[lapis oak]

wtf...

[thick coyote]

just to check i named what instument all of the kos bosses used and i got it right

[acoustic shell]

Yessir

[thick coyote]

so yeah i would notice

[acoustic shell]

Fables is like vanilla + I love it

[celest cape]

I feel like I'm the only one that mutes TMod and plays my own stuff. Every time I say that in a server, everybody acts like I'm a psycho over it.

[fringe quiver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ITOTZlms0

belovedddddddd

[acoustic shell]

Does anyone know how far sunken sea will go in the new update

Like

[fringe quiver]

hell

[pulsar cobalt]

sidetracked the goat

[fringe quiver]

almost all the way down to hell

[acoustic shell]

Oh thats so dope

I hope its wider too

I wonder when it drops

[vivid hemlock]

it doesnt really need to be

that much wider

[fringe quiver]

sso tommroow..............

[acoustic shell]

I'd nut

[lapis oak]

already as wide as the desert no needs to be wider than that

[vivid hemlock]

like the sunken sea does not have the issue of being thin like the abyss

[flat vine]

It would be funny if we had an item like “nostalgia goggles” and they just made items / bosses when applicable use those OG designs

[fringe quiver]

the animations in question

[thick coyote]

you're like 16 please stop

[acoustic shell]

So how do u know this buddy

[fringe quiver]

damn spot on

[dull heart]

I know

[acoustic shell]

And idgaf

[vivid hemlock]

hell torture goggles

[thick coyote]

your discord tag is fortnite, lucky guess, I suppose

[acoustic shell]

I have a question for devs

btw

[celest cape]

GinYuH probably has them, they did help assemble Calamity Classic afterall.

[pulsar cobalt]

because theyre the only types of idiots thatd make weird as fuck remarks as that

[flat vine]

Because no one over the age of 16 has skibidi and Fortnite in their profile

[acoustic shell]

Its not that deep

[fringe quiver]

nono

i mean

[acoustic shell]

Chill

Anyway

I have a question for a dev that does not regard spoilers

[fringe quiver]

the new iterations of the bosses have anims the old ones dontlol

[celest cape]

Ah, I see. Yeah that's probably true.

[acoustic shell]

Is mod development / pace going faster now that Fabsol is gone?

Question for devs

[celest cape]

Shayy sort of goes over that in Calcast 6.5, long story short, yes and it isn't close.

[acoustic shell]

Obviously you have more freedom but is development going faster

[thick coyote]

impossible to say because a bunch of devs got a bit inspiration boost but also deltrarune happened

[flat vine]

^ we love cal cast

[vivid hemlock]

not really

[fringe quiver]

fabsol leaves, significantly amping up productivity and efficiency
deltarune comes out and immediately lowers productivity

we live in a calamity

[vivid hemlock]

the issue with fab was mainly the bosses

and well

[thick coyote]

shayy said a lot of things but other devs walked back some of those things

[acoustic shell]

Soo like

[flat vine]

Truly calamitous times

[acoustic shell]

Alr

[vivid hemlock]

since they can actually make good bosses now

[fringe quiver]

It means more freedom + Alot of devs just generally got a morale boost due to said freedom

[vivid hemlock]

its gonna take more time to well, design said bosses

[acoustic shell]

I feel like all that cool concept art and inspiration is already far too gone now, I mean half the team is on fables now

Is that true?

Or is everyone like cooking again

[thick coyote]

what

[vivid hemlock]

but theres also the motivation boost from fab leaving

[stuck kite]

deltarune dropped and then hades ii update dropped... we're eating good and totally doing stuff

[fringe quiver]

The fables team and the calmain team are entirely separate

[flat vine]

Iirc the team of people who left to do fables is completely separate

[lapis oak]

the fuck?

[fringe quiver]

the fables team diverged in 22, they have their own plans and art, and the calmain team has their won separate plans and art

[lapis oak]

those are old devs

[acoustic shell]

U ok?

[lapis oak]

not current devs

[vivid hemlock]

fables has been split for years bro

[thick coyote]

is this fables narrative a red nation specialty

[celest cape]

I'm just glad Astrum Aureus even has the chance of getting a rework. Because oh my god it needs it, that boss is so bad. That boss has needed touching up ever since it came out, in my opinion. Awful boss.

[acoustic shell]

I didnt even know

Thought it was like this year

[vivid hemlock]

😭

[fringe quiver]

no that was '22

which

i dont actually know if it was in 2022

i think it wasnt

forgot when it was

but it was a good few years ago

[summer shore]

december 2022

[lapis oak]

Fables has been in development for years now

[flat vine]

The one change I pray for is letting us use the glorious end without the summon dmg nerf

Please I pray

[fringe quiver]

ok so it was 22 devs leaving in 2022

funny

[summer shore]

Nearly 3 years

[acoustic shell]

I wish the two teams combined and just cooked bro imagine the productivity

Someone had to say ts

[fringe quiver]

no

[lapis oak]

not happening sorry

[fringe quiver]

they have entirely separate plans and visions for the mod

[lapis oak]

many have already said this

[flat vine]

[acoustic shell]

ik

[thick coyote]

Bigger teams can actually be less productive

[fringe quiver]

theyre each doing their own thing

[vivid hemlock]

they have very different end goals and philosophies

[fringe quiver]

the teams fusing would literally just be bad for both of them because theres entirely conflicting visions here, it'd make productivity worse

more people is not always better

let fables devs do their thing and let calmain devs do their own

[flat vine]

I mean, Infernum is kinda like fables if you squint and like getting your ass punted 6 feet under

[fringe quiver]

👍

[celest cape]

Assemble a top list of the bosses in Calamity that need a serious upgrade, Aureus makes the top five easily.

[lapis oak]

not even close

[acoustic shell]

Is the slime god rework in sso?

[vivid hemlock]

not even close
lmao

[lapis oak]

Aureus is one of the better bosses

[vivid hemlock]

""rework"" yes

[acoustic shell]

Rework + Resprite

[fringe quiver]

these are both ravager

left is fables, right is calmain

[acoustic shell]

What was that one concept art with the fallen angel and halo

For ravager

[flat vine]

It was sarcastic both are equally goated mods

[fringe quiver]

i have no idea what that is

[celest cape]

Oh no this is a you thing, I fucking HATE Aureus.

I DESPISE that motherfucker.

[vivid hemlock]

i feel like

there are better bosses to hate on

[thick coyote]

Aureus is a white noise boss

[flat vine]

Like torch god

[thick coyote]

hes inoffensive

[acoustic shell]

Like preferators and hive mind

Speak of the devil

[fringe quiver]

brain of chtulhu

[lapis oak]

that is actually a "you" think

[fringe quiver]

my archenemy

[acoustic shell]

I realyl hope u guys make the change

This one

[vivid hemlock]

oh my god

[acoustic shell]

Is it like confirmed or na

[lapis oak]

because Aureus is widely accepted as one of the better bosses in the game

[fringe quiver]

brain of chtulhu my beloathed i hate brain

[vivid hemlock]

shut up bro

[celest cape]

Half the damn list.

[acoustic shell]

Relax

[fringe quiver]

as was previously stated its not

[vivid hemlock]

stop posting this image

[celest cape]

But personally, I just really hate Aureus.

[acoustic shell]

I didnt know

[celest cape]

I fucking cannot stand him.

[flat vine]

Bro the whip lash I would get if that happened would not sit right

[acoustic shell]

Its for the better

Itd just take getting used to

[flat vine]

?

[dull heart]

aureus is kinda peak ngl

[acoustic shell]

Cause your like digging up a coffin

[celest cape]

And it isn't because he's difficult, that isn't the picture I'm painting. He's just fucking obnoxious.

[flat vine]

I forget, worm or big round guy?

[fringe quiver]

big round guy

[flat vine]

Those 2 always confuse me with their names

[celest cape]

Aureus is the spider dude.

[flat vine]

Look man they both have nearly identical color schemes, spawning biome and first names,

[dull heart]

I remember deus because it splits in two

even though deus doesn't actually mean two

[celest cape]

Deus isn't much better.

[fringe quiver]

dos!

astrum uno...

astrum tres...

[acoustic shell]

I had an idea to rework carcinogen into an actual vanilla styled boss

For my Mod

[flat vine]

Carcinogen

[celest cape]

That's another thing the Astral bosses share, they both suck.

[dull heart]

I don't

[acoustic shell]

i cooked so hard with it

[thick coyote]

they ddint mean "dude" as in "how do you not know". they meant "aureus is a spider dude"

[fringe quiver]

calamity community remix

[acoustic shell]

i wish i had mod dev skills

[dull heart]

I don't think Carcinogen can possibly be vanilla styled

[vivid hemlock]

why are you bringing up community remix bosses dawg

[dull heart]

like

[flat vine]

Wait it is?

[dull heart]

by nature of its design

[fringe quiver]

carcinogen is

[acoustic shell]

it basically just shares the ash concept

[fringe quiver]

yeah its . its the cigarette. its

lung cancer boss fight

[acoustic shell]

and cancer concept

[fringe quiver]

i mean tbh

i can see it

[flat vine]

I’ve been playing cal for almost 8+ years and I’m now just finding out aureus is a spider?

[acoustic shell]

i also brainstormed a new biome for it and everything

[fringe quiver]

vanilla terraria can get pretty macabre

[thick coyote]

no hes not

[acoustic shell]

it fits so welll

with vanilla

[flat vine]

[thick coyote]

he just has spider legs

[fringe quiver]

aureus is just like

a thing

[vivid hemlock]

spiders have 8 legs aureus is not a spider

[fringe quiver]

an abstract robotic looking thing

[flat vine]

Looked more crab to me

[dull heart]

aureus has 8 legs

[flat vine]

All things revert to crab

[thick coyote]

i mean those two have the same legs

[dull heart]

if you count twice

[thick coyote]

dont they

[barren nacelle]

Aureus is based off of a Metroid boss

[fringe quiver]

i dont like aureus but not for the reason everyone else dislikes it

i just dont like his design

[thick coyote]

same

[barren nacelle]

That is literally just a cube

[flat vine]

Yea he is very boring

[fringe quiver]

aureus is based of a metroid boss whose name is literally a XBOX pun

[barren nacelle]

Aureus design is boring and unreadable

[flat vine]

I would like to see his fight get revamped

[celest cape]

Sorry, I've just had a burning- Like ever since they took away the 11 worms thing Deus has just gone so many ranks down in my eyes.

It wasn't technically better, it was still sort of lazy and it was still projectile spam, but christ Pre-R&D Deus was at least somewhat fun.

[fringe quiver]

you see the robot's name is B.O.X
and then it gets infected by x-parasites

turning it into

X B.O.X

and you beat it to death

in a nintendo game

[barren nacelle]

I love Metroid

[vivid hemlock]

pre rust and dust deus still gives me ptsd

[pulsar cobalt]

canon event in the metroid series

[flat folio]

Turn Deus into Not a Worm and my life belongs to Calamity

[pulsar cobalt]

samus beats up x box

[barren nacelle]

TRUTH

[vivid hemlock]

exactlyy

[celest cape]

Just don't make it a normal fucking dude with magic powers, please.

[thick coyote]

do it we need lucille on the team

[celest cape]

That's so uninteresting.

[fringe quiver]

mods.... true react this owman....

[pulsar cobalt]

i dont know a single dev that wants to keep it a worm ngl

[flat vine]

How many worm bosses do we have? 6?

[barren nacelle]

Deus is one of the most in need bosses when it comes to revamps

[pulsar cobalt]

u can true react

[fringe quiver]

why would they do that

[pulsar cobalt]

tupid

[urban cloak]

The idea was actually thrown around a few times Post-Fabsol funnily enough

[modern grove]

Fabsol theme with freedom motif

[urban cloak]

though it was moreso coupled with "where the fuck can we move this guy in progression"

[pulsar cobalt]

hey fry do u wanna keep deus a worm

[celest cape]

Because I've seen that idea proposed before. Not here, on the subreddit.

[barren nacelle]

Tomorrow

[fringe quiver]

what the ufck lol

they were NOT cooking im srry

[lapis oak]

you should give your life to main Calamity and un-worm it yourself

[urban cloak]

idfk

[flat vine]

EOW
Destroyer
Desert / aquatic scourge
Storm weaver
DOG
Thanatos
Deus
Perforator

[flat folio]

Post-DoG

Maximum chaos

[barren nacelle]

Awful Idea
Subreddit

Yeah

[fringe quiver]

hey fry do you wanna eat a hamburger

[barren nacelle]

Armored digger if that counts

[vivid hemlock]

you forgot perforators

[flat vine]

Would you count perforator?

[barren nacelle]

Technically triplicated too

[urban cloak]

I think Deus can work as a worm if it leans more into splitting and reforming an being sorta formless? Like a living star constellation almost

[thick coyote]

R*ddit.....

[urban cloak]

Right now it's just sorta Space Destroyer but it splits and flies

[fringe quiver]

destroyer but purple and gay

stupid worm

[flat vine]

Good for them

[flat folio]

As someone put it here recently, you could turn Deus into a molten worm and palette swap projectiles and you'd never know it was meant to originally be a star god boss

[celest cape]

I absolutely hate it when people go "Let's redesign this Calamity boss." And they just turn it into like, a dude in armor with spells or something. I've seen people do that to both Astrum Deus and Signus, and it's just like...oh my fucking god, you really just have zero creativity huh?

[thick coyote]

yep

[fringe quiver]

That was me :D

[barren nacelle]

Another cheese banger

[thick coyote]

this lady doesnt miss she should make mods

[flat vine]

When’s the “cala-worm-y” update that just turns all bosses into worms

[urban cloak]

...yeah actually that's true thinking about it now

[flat folio]

Maybe not

[modern grove]

Deus has 0 star themed attacks btw

[barren nacelle]

Deus is just too generic. It feels like a 1.3 boss

[arctic cliff]

Personally it took a bit for me to figure out what to turn Deus into that wasnt just another metal worm

[fringe quiver]

calamity mod devs....

save astrum deus...

[thick coyote]

hell deus being a magma worm would have more potential because the little mines could be rocks that explode into sharpnel

[slate folio]

I have a feeling lucille is secretly a calamity dev again

[arctic cliff]

i eventually just landed on making him a comet

[slate folio]

What

[vivid hemlock]

i feel like comet deus still makes it a worm

[urban cloak]

I think this is the most I've seen lmao

[slate folio]

Am I in the dark or something

[flat vine]

Wait shit I forgot about funny wyrm

[arctic cliff]

(okay this design already feels dated and probably could get updated)

[barren nacelle]

That’s actually cool if you want to keep a worm body

[urban cloak]

Only other person I know near that amount is CIT

[fringe quiver]

yknow i was listening to cruel angle thesis and the thought of making deus a evangelion angel coded space being just came to my mind lmao

[urban cloak]

I think he has like 12k~?

[flat vine]

That’s 10 whole worm bosses in the game rn

[twin juniper]

Can we turn deus into jellyfish

[celest cape]

Because Astrum Deus has zero fucking unique creative direction behind it, something that plagues quite a few of the bosses in this mod unfortunately.

[thick coyote]

has to be fake, you just leave this running at night hy accident

[flat folio]

It's my Great Shame

10k hours is when smth stops being ambition and starts being addiction

[fringe quiver]

This could go hard perhaps..... If it was executed well

[flat folio]

[urban cloak]

I'm at like 9.2k is it too late for me lucille

[flat folio]

It is

[arctic cliff]

ideally the comet deus would act a lot like Phase 2 of that weird Cruiser boss from that random calamity addon (Entropy)

[dull heart]

that is a lot

[urban cloak]

😔

[dull heart]

I am at like 2.5-3k in tmod

And 5-6k in vanilla

[flat vine]

I wish we had more “tag team” bosses through hard mode

[thick coyote]

im at 2k counting my base terraria hours

[pulsar cobalt]

i have over 10k hours in sleeping i think im addicted!!!!??!!!!!!

help !!

[flat vine]

Like how slime god / twins work

[dull heart]

Just stop

[fringe quiver]

i mean if slime god is being moved to hardmode

i guess there's that

[flat vine]

Wait it is?

[flat folio]

Sleep is a scam constructed to steal people's limited free time

[flat vine]

What tier?

[fringe quiver]

not confirmed

[arctic cliff]

i dont have embed perms but heres the boss im referring to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWpq9sBJ3O8

[fringe quiver]

possibly

[flat vine]

Mhm

[fringe quiver]

it might swap places with calclone

[barren nacelle]

This amounts to a little under 2 years. Two years of playing terraria

[fringe quiver]

you can take a look at the doc in pins theres stuff there

[barren nacelle]

No even vanilla

Modded terraria

[flat vine]

Cal clone would feel weird being pre hm

[thick coyote]

ok yeah thats fake then

lucille definitely leaves it running

[barren nacelle]

I’m not saying it’s fake

[lapis oak]

it's over for you

[barren nacelle]

Lucille can just be locked in

[flat folio]

When you sleep remember that your time is being absorbed by and stolen by a higher being that's in a desperate race against entropy
It is your sacred duty to defy this and claim that time for yourself, staying up as long as possible

[fringe quiver]

I'm pretty sure most of it comes from her debugging and coding

[dull heart]

That is like

1/5th of the total time Tmod has been on steam

[thick coyote]

yeah

[flat folio]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198981014900/

[barren nacelle]

Next up Lucille needs to lock in and getting a job

[pulsar cobalt]

damn

[fringe quiver]

the mines

[pulsar cobalt]

"a liking of terraria"

[thick coyote]

i mean fake as in you leave it running on your pc at times not photoshopped

[barren nacelle]

That’s a joke that’s mean sorry Lucille I understand being unemployed is a lifestyle you’ve come to accept

[lapis oak]

might wanna change that

[flat folio]

Ah

[urban cloak]

@silk terrace sounds a little familiar

[arctic cliff]

immediately went into this and found this gold

[silk terrace]

fuck you

[urban cloak]

😁

[thick coyote]

like i have 2k hours but i know like somewhere around 300 is ark

[celest cape]

This is sort of a bone I've had to pick with Calamity for a long time, feel free to chime in yourselves on this.

With a fair few of these bosses, Astrum Deus included, the way they were made genuinely gives off the impression that the people behind them just had zero ideas whatsoever.

[thick coyote]

afk*

id literally fall asleep listening to the game

for a time

[pulsar cobalt]

i think id say i only have like 30 hours max afk (due to leaving it over lunch n dinner)

[vivid hemlock]

good thing the concept of updates exist 😁

[silk terrace]

wonder if lucille or shark has more hours

i think it's close

[pulsar cobalt]

im at around 1.5k hours maybe more idk

[barren nacelle]

Fabsol boss design

[flat folio]

Me accidentally stealing the attention of this channel away from Calamity discussion half the time I materialize

[barren nacelle]

I wonder how many hours Ozz has

[thick coyote]

you go girl take that spotlight

[barren nacelle]

As you should

[silk terrace]

you're close enough

[flat vine]

Top 5 bosses that I think need a rework

old duke
Astrum deus
Astrum aureus
Signus
Golem

[celest cape]

It just feels like with some of these bosses, he had no idea what the hell he wanted to do. Like there's no actual goal in mind.

[pulsar cobalt]

1.4k

[vivid hemlock]

one of these is not like the others

[pulsar cobalt]

acting like we r ever on topic

[silk terrace]

i'm not like a lot of the other devs, i think only have uh... 7k?

[lean relic]

calamity slowly making worm boss only dog
Truly peak moments

[flat vine]

Golems so bad

[flat folio]

Only 7k hours is an insane statement

[thick coyote]

this, CST is just CMT for the regulars

[silk terrace]

might be closer to 6

dunno

[urban cloak]

I was off by 200 damn

[pulsar cobalt]

i only have 1.4k hours and barely any pts lmao

[vivid hemlock]

thats because vanilla golem sucks and fab somehow made it worse

[pulsar cobalt]

still have a backlist of mods to play thru

[flat vine]

I’ve been spoiled by an actual competent Golem fight with Infernum

[fringe quiver]

Fabsol boss design yeah

[barren nacelle]

“What if a boss that’s is poorly designed… had projectile spam”

[flat folio]

Infernum...

[arctic cliff]

Now that I think about it...

Why is Astrum Aureus similarly named to Astrum Deus?
One's a star-eating creature that's been deified, and the other is an infected machine made by Draedon.

[celest cape]

Astrum Deus is just...I mean let's just say it like it is, it's a Destroyer reskin that flies and splits once. It hardly goes deeper than that.

[arctic cliff]

^

[pulsar cobalt]

gee i wonder who intially started infernum

[arctic cliff]

I legit cant go back to base Calamity golem anymore

[silk terrace]

it'll forever be a mystery

[fringe quiver]

Infernum horrors

[boreal edge]

Liar

[flat folio]

Infernum outlived Fabsol...

[thick coyote]

holyyy

[flat vine]

I know it’s not #calamity-addon-talk but man… golem needs love

[urban cloak]

okay how much do you have shark I forgot

[barren nacelle]

Can’t believe the founders of both Infernum and Calamity don’t exist

[arctic cliff]

infernum golem is genuinely probably the single best rework of any vanilla boss Infernum did

[barren nacelle]

Crazy stuff

[boreal edge]

Lemme check

[silk terrace]

i need to remove the bouncing fireballs whenever he lands if that hasn't happened already

[urban cloak]

DAMN

[arctic cliff]

He's just fun to fight against.

[urban cloak]

aight then

[lapis oak]

HOLY SMOKE

[silk terrace]

requiring a hoik on higher difficulties is ridiculous

[flat folio]

OK phew it's your shame now not mine

[vivid hemlock]

insane person posting

[flat folio]

[boreal edge]

No no it's okay we can share actually

[lapis oak]

😢 it's over for both of you...

[flat vine]

The creature

[lean relic]

DAMMM!!!

[silk terrace]

i need to speed up time to surpass you two and take on ultimate shame

[thick coyote]

ah so you're the one who made the "how do i close terraria meme"

[lapis oak]

electric bill going crazy with this one

[boreal edge]

Honestly they're like mostly fine in current dev build

[pulsar cobalt]

1.95 years bte

[flat folio]

Hyperbolic time chamber being used for the express purpose of grinding TML hours

[hard copper]

almost 2 years, gotta get those numbers up

[boreal edge]

Only the best use case for a time machine

[silk terrace]

i'll fight it again in dev and see what i think

it's been a minute

[boreal edge]

If anything I feel like the issue with them is more so exaggerated by how often he jumps in general

[silk terrace]

yeah, probably

[flat folio]

Just gotta steal borrow the Infernum Golem AI and rebalance it obviously

[boreal edge]

erm self-advertisement...

Ban this user

[flat folio]

It's fine it was mentioned earlier in this exact context..

[lyric trellis]

Good idea

Bring sans to basecal

[boreal edge]

Okay if ombgus thinks it's good then maybe it's good

[flat vine]

Sans vs dog who wins

[flat folio]

This will be SCal in 2018

[urban cloak]

something something gfb ravager

[flat folio]

If you know you know...

[boreal edge]

Thank goodness GFB isn't real

[pulsar cobalt]

i see youve died three times

how about we make that a fourth

[flat folio]

Get doused on

[silk terrace]

wouldn't mind taking some design cues from infernum

obviously not to the same degree but there is only so much you can do with vanilla bosses

[boreal edge]

Until we get the inevitable wave of "Wow they copied Infernum"

[flat vine]

It is likely not feesable, but I absolutely love how prov is In time to her music

[fringe quiver]

even down to the dialogue

😭

[flat vine]

I would love to see something like that in base cal

[lyric trellis]

Besides still being one of the better infernum bosses, basecal golem also just sucks so much because it’s just vanilla but buffed 💔

[terse dew]

Ah memories

[flat folio]

There's a few design notes from it, I'd say
Just dun spam the Ares blender and radial spread projectiles and nondiegetic telegraph lines those parts are bad

[boreal edge]

Still need to rank the vanilla bosses in terms of changing their AI

[lyric trellis]

Golem and destroyer first and second

[boreal edge]

Hang on I need to look up what diegetic means

[silk terrace]

📝
spam ares blender.... telegraph lines... those parts aren't bad

ok, think i got it

[lapis oak]

😨

[boreal edge]

Okay I see

King Slime announces jumps with a buzzsaw sound

[flat folio]

It means making sense within the context of the medium something is portrayed
Telegraph lines are something that wouldn't make sense literally for example, they're a construct of game design convenience, not an in-world thing

[modern grove]

I think deus could be fun if it was themed around fate and threads and constellations and weaving

[lyric trellis]

Spam the same sound effect on every boss

[silk terrace]

fargo's head laser sweep has always been one of my favorite attacks

feels so golem but so new

[flat folio]

((And a kinda uncreative example of such at that

[flat folio]

The Exo Mechs.......

[boreal edge]

Definitely wanna work around different telegraph ideas for Destroyer

[silk terrace]

i liked the general concepts for dest you drew

[flat vine]

Would it be possible to incorporate the drones more in his attacks?

[thick coyote]

id love this^

[flat vine]

Iirc all they do is just float around and shoot lasers

[boreal edge]

I had one concept for later on I think

[flat folio]

Kamikaze probes

[flat vine]

I imagine lil drone attacks

[boreal edge]

It's still like, in the ideasguying phase nothing has been done in-game

[lyric trellis]

The best phase

[silk terrace]

old deus where the drones circled the head and laid mines

[boreal edge]

Your death is nigh

[silk terrace]

you can't kill me in any way that matters

[thick coyote]

now that ive seen some of whats been cooking im so excited

its so peak...

[boreal edge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1073010229995896963/1083289933554393149/cat_emoji.gif

[lyric trellis]

Old deus shitting everywhere with mines and a billion worms

Great boss

[flat vine]

Also would it be possible to let summoners use the glorious end without the dmg nerf. It’s effectively just a mobility tool

I pray

[urban cloak]

I should probably join patreon and actually start posting there now that it's gotten an influx of people

[vivid hemlock]

you should

[thick coyote]

patrons are eating good atm

feasting

[flat vine]

I love using the glorious end, but I wanna use more armor sets then being locked to using forbidden

[silk terrace]

i think

there is something that could be said for having a worm that chases you through a minefield. that concept isn't totally without merit

[urban cloak]

Good to know

[lyric trellis]

Mobility tool that happens to arguably be the best weapon in the game

[thick coyote]

the mines work if deus is supposed to create stars but i dont think it is anymore

[silk terrace]

mollusk facetank...

[thick coyote]

because you could just turn them into tiny stars

[lapis oak]

it's literally the best mage weapon?

[flat vine]

Destroyer fight but he makes you play a game of mine sweeper

[lapis oak]

super busted

[flat vine]

The star rod?

[boreal edge]

Sound like something Forgotten Evils Destroyer would do

[thick coyote]

yeah

[lapis oak]

yes

[flat vine]

I’ve only used it for mobility

[lyric trellis]

I can see the vision but obviously old deus was not a good execution of it

[flat folio]

Forgotten Evils 😨

[flat vine]

Haven’t tried the DPS yet

[silk terrace]

the vision was there

the execution was not

the current execution is even worse imo, the mines do nothing

i don't think i've ever interacted with them one in all my deus tests

[lyric trellis]

Neither were your frames

[flat vine]

How good is the glorious end in terms of damage?

[boreal edge]

Until they randomly split into lasers

[lean relic]

I dont remember but
4 or 6 worms approaching to you

[lyric trellis]

Try 9

[dull heart]

i have some ideas regarding this and weaver

but

it seems likely that my weaver stuff won't get to happen

[silk terrace]

keep it in your back pocket until it's time

never know

[thick coyote]

yeah because you probably wanted to make him into a playground oc that has every power it ever needs

[lyric trellis]

Area denial except you can just do a big circle/run away so nothing matters

[dull heart]

true

I might just

do some weaver for fun

try some ideas

[lyric trellis]

Weaver and fun is a never before seen combination (okay infernum’s isn’t terrible tbh)

[dull heart]

my vision for weaver definitely is very difficult than Triangle/Tobias's, that's for sure

[urban cloak]

Kill the ice queen frost waves and you will be known as a hero

[lyric trellis]

True

[lapis oak]

they also have vision for Weaver too?

[boreal edge]

Kill vanilla projectile reuse in general

[dull heart]

The frost waves are

[urban cloak]

true actually

[dull heart]

a good idea with horrific execution

[urban cloak]

did you guys know that wulfrum drone shoots martian suacer lasers

[flat vine]

Frost legion

[lyric trellis]

I forgot how weaver is literally just entirely vanilla projectile reuse it’s so bad

[silk terrace]

you don't like 200 block tall sand elemental tornado?

[lyric trellis]

It’s ass….

[silk terrace]

shocking

[flat vine]

Anyone else just love cheesing Signus and slime god with a single world spanding mine track

[lyric trellis]

I think the worst part of weaver is also just how there’s 0 cohesion and shit just happens

[dull heart]

weaver phase 1 is such a

oof

[agile latch]

The creature known as compromise and properly discussing stuff out

[boreal edge]

Tornado

[agile latch]

When the time comes for weaver

[boreal edge]

Triangular user

[lyric trellis]

Actual joke phase

[agile latch]

Which isnt now

[fringe quiver]

fabsol. tell me. what does calamity mod needs.
harder difficulties
i ask again.
reused vanilla projectiles and boss AI
allegations, cut them down.

[dull heart]

the visions are so drastically different I don't see a way to reconcile them tbh

[lyric trellis]

Shoutout to how weaver gained lasers in phase 1 for no reason

[dull heart]

but that's fine

[agile latch]

what is your vision for weaver

[silk terrace]

if you're gonna have a discussion go to dev

[agile latch]

Wont

[pulsar cobalt]

no

stay here

[agile latch]

Just want to know what they want for weaver

[thick coyote]

no please do go on

[agile latch]

[silk terrace]

i can hold down the fort

[lapis oak]

leaking in here right NOW

[dull heart]

I don't wanna discuss right now it's 11:46pm

[silk terrace]

i will keep them in line

[summer shore]

darkseid dragging superman image

[agile latch]

Wont discuss (want to sleep)

[dull heart]

and I don't even know how to explain it rn

[agile latch]

[lyric trellis]

Weaver chat

[agile latch]

Anyway you already know my ideia for the design concept

[dull heart]

It's the type of thing where it'd just happen as it went

yea

and I don't dislike it

[agile latch]

And also lore ™️

[silk terrace]

triangle can i leak that storm weaver might have something to do with storms

[dull heart]

I'd be fine with that, it's just not my personal choice

[summer shore]

You're telling me the storm weaver weaves storms

[pulsar cobalt]

WHWHWHWHHWHWHHAAAATTTTTTTTY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[summer shore]

Outstanding

[dull heart]

nope

[still bluff]

What the fuck

[modern grove]

Weaver should make a tornado

[urban cloak]

Shocking, even

[flat vine]

Would he perhaps be the storm, and approaching rapidly?

[dull heart]

guys can I leak that dog has body segments

[agile latch]

I do want to move weaver away more from

[silk terrace]

our entire plans are ruined

[still bluff]

No he's all head now

[agile latch]

Generic laser worm

[prisma canyon]

review on steam "meh, its okay"

[boreal edge]

Shocking

[agile latch]

[dull heart]

i agree with moving away from generic laser worm

[agile latch]

And i want weaver to stand out a lot more than a mini DoG