calamity-update-talk

[lapis oak]

you know they're working on that right

[agile latch]

Yea

[buoyant pulsar]

oh my god

[agile latch]

Full permission to improve it

[buoyant pulsar]

dragon pow

[agile latch]

I think xyk plans to do so

[buoyant pulsar]

oh my god finally

[hasty hawk]

altho imma guess still keeping Chinese Dragon theme?

[agile latch]

There is a new sprite too

[agile latch]

Yea

[lapis oak]

Tobias sprite right?

[agile latch]

Yes too

[lapis oak]

pog

[buoyant pulsar]

is it gonna actually swing around you like a 1.4 flail

please im begging

[agile latch]

Yes, because flairon is too

Getting that in 1.4.5

[lyric trellis]

Mimicking the Flairion style specifically, because pre-spin flails without it (that aren’t solar eruption) were completely terrible

[buoyant pulsar]

do you guys ever get donors who you actually can contact and they tell you no you can't change a really bad weapon to make it better

[lapis oak]

ermm... Marksman Bow

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah fuck that one

[mystic eagle]

52 ectoplasm, yayyy

[valid crypt]

thats just bar bow that shoots 2 jester arrows no?

[lapis oak]

ye

[buoyant pulsar]

i really like the idea of flails being slow, precision, high damage weapons against single targets, but just demolishing crowds

[valid crypt]

ah ectoplasm

[buoyant pulsar]

also i like ricocheting flails off of surfaces

[pulsar cobalt]

mhm. that one. the one that shoots jester arrows. it really is a weapon of all time

[buoyant pulsar]

and i really like how thrown flails inherit your current speed, so dashing immediately before throwing it gives it extra range

fun little piece of flail tech

you should try it

[valid crypt]

oh cool

[pulsar cobalt]

isnt it 31

[buoyant pulsar]

also ricocheting flails is fun, if impractical

[pulsar cobalt]

WAIT HOLY SHIT THE JESTER ARROWS FROM MARKSMAN ARE ACTUALLY UNIQUE NOW

HOWD I MISS THIS

[lyric trellis]

Ah yes

[mystic eagle]

Right

[lyric trellis]

Unique

Just like ai

[valid crypt]

ah yes through tiles, the most unique

[pulsar cobalt]

i mean im not wrong

theyre technically not just jester arrows

theyre jester arrows that go thru tiles

[lapis oak]

when will YuH improve his Donor item

[pulsar cobalt]

i hate the wiki

[lapis oak]

Abandoned Slime Staff truly got abandoned

[lyric trellis]

The 1.4 vanilla flails that spin are good yeah, just that before they were terrible (just look at what Yateveo Bloom currently is)

[pulsar cobalt]

oh abandoned slime staff

lol

[lyric trellis]

Also known as ASS

[lapis oak]

truest

[valid crypt]

lol

[pulsar cobalt]

i

fucking

never noticed that

i mean it is what it is

its ass

[cobalt wharf]

theyve also always been different in the way that it’s jester arrows use local iframes instead of static

[hard hearth]

i should delete it

[fringe quiver]

honestly spine of thanatos is the only one that i feel like makes sense to be a solar eruption clone if anything

rem's revenge and pulse dragon not being ball flails is so weird

[dense sundial]

spine of thanatos is one of the clunkier weapons ever made

it just feels so weird

[fringe quiver]

i wish there were more urchin mace-style weapons

or... maces, i guess

it has a rly interesting and nicche functionality

[buoyant pulsar]

agree

[dense sundial]

drippler crippler 🔥

[dull heart]

spine of thanatos should be a regular flail

clearly

[buoyant pulsar]

true

are yall ever gonna update shpc visuals

[dull heart]

with three spinning flails

[buoyant pulsar]

that would be sick just saying

i have a weapon like that in my game doc

[lyric trellis]

It’s reworked next update so I’d assume it got some

Also reminder that Yateveo, Tumbleweed, Ball of Fugu, and Rem’s Revenge are probably gonna function like the post-1.4 flails next update (and Urchin Flail is dead)

[silk terrace]

game changer

peak weapon

[lean cave]

this is why its my favorite weapon

[lyric trellis]

Wow, first Optrix miss…

[pulsar cobalt]

common optrix L tbh

[boreal edge]

He’s so true

[boreal edge]

No it will stay dust monster forever and ever until the end of time and I will veto changing it otherwise

[lyric trellis]

Somebody remove this guy

[arctic cliff]

seven hundred crucible knights will be sent to add 1 proton to each of your atoms

[boreal edge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-dying-for-pie-squidward-dying-for-pie-squidward-pie-gif-5351203724904646140

[lyric trellis]

Cat gif that has 3 pixels

[lyric trellis]

Fake, way too big

[iron dew]

dont diss my goat optrix like that

[lapis oak]

Miracle Matter Superradiant Slaughterer is so real and so true and so good and so yummy I can't believe my fucking eyes anymore my Calamity Mod it's peak

[silk terrace]

my goat would never be wrong

if optrix has 0 fans i am dead

[vivid hemlock]

crack

[lapis oak]

can't believe Sunny died 😢

it's like she's still here with us

[iron dew]

wtf is this emoji

[fringe quiver]

gay

[lapis oak]

I hate chinese panda with human face emotes so much they fucking suck

[arctic cliff]

weak

[brave star]

What about po

You can’t hate po

Bc of Jack black

[lean cave]

[hexed basalt]

[lean cave]

[steep path]

:haventstarted:

[hexed basalt]

hey

emoji not updated

[buoyant pulsar]

omg he totally sounds like samuel hayden why did i never think of that

[boreal edge]

The original doesn’t stand aside for an impostor

[hexed basalt]

are you calling me an impostor thats crazy

[pulsar cobalt]

done would never talk like that

ur acting extremely suspicious

[dull heart]

Hi

[boreal badger]

John Wulfrum Acrobatics Pack

[arctic cliff]

He acts odd, because he knows of my presence.

[dusk bronze]

any spoilers the last 10 hours?

[brave star]

.

[dusk bronze]

pog

[brave star]

PoG

(Pinger of Gods)

[lapis oak]

Marksman Bow killed my wife and my kids

[brave star]

How

[lapis oak]

and now I have to suffer living with it and no spoilers

[vivid hemlock]

sdfmg launcher minigun situation is crazy

[iron dew]

theres this @dusk bronze

[lapis oak]

the fuck?

higher resolution unlocked

[iron dew]

idk why their post is so blurry it looks like the user took it with their phone

[sly sandal]

Wait what is this

[boreal badger]

why is half the ping capitalized and the other half not

[iron dew]

exo blade

[lapis oak]

you should give out other parts in higher resolution posts now

[dusk bronze]

how does this make more sense than the current sprite

[vivid hemlock]

???

[boreal badger]

look at the word ping

[vivid hemlock]

backread tobias messages to learn more

[boreal badger]

the p and i arent capitalized but the n and g are

[dusk bronze]

i did

[sly sandal]

Wait who drew this and is it actually getting added?

[iron dew]

it was on dia's canvas when they were streaming yesterday

[vivid hemlock]

and yes its being added

[vivid hemlock]

dont really know how to help you then

[dusk bronze]

it's a wip tho

[sly sandal]

Ohhh

[trail oriole]

dia needs to be smited

[dusk bronze]

hello tob

[trail oriole]

not sure what to do about this guhhh

uhh

2 seconds

[agile latch]

this is like a ancient version of it from what i remember

dia leaking in calart..

[trail oriole]

idk im just going to delete it!

leak but it was gen not meant to come out

[dusk bronze]

you fool, i already saved it

[iron dew]

guh!

[trail oriole]

🫃 its fine

[dusk bronze]

(i won't repost dw)

[pearl sentinel]

holy peak

[trail oriole]

i made the sprite and dia had an edited version on his own sheet he for somereason didnt

delete

[fringe quiver]

you may want to know that the superrradiant slaughterer miracle upgrade or w/e was also leaked in the same way then 😭

[trail oriole]

guh

[agile latch]

well that is a dia sprite

they can just post it if they want

[fringe quiver]

oh nvm then

[dusk bronze]

well the crystal part looks amazing

[fringe quiver]

thought tobias was the one doing that too

[pearl sentinel]

i think sso will be the most peakest cal update ever

[fringe quiver]

given

when sso drops im gonna do a backflip and be like im walking here

[iron dew]

i only have the higher resolution exo blade sorgy,.,...

[dusk bronze]

death

[trail oriole]

byeah dont share it pleasee aha it would mean so much

[trail oriole]

but sicne you already saw it aha

and metal or other material is clearly segmented by the form of a handle so its clear its not aapart of the actual

"weaponry"

the bloody is literally dispersed through the weapons although dias version had blood coming from places other than the roots so

dont mind that

the roots are also the only thing sprouting the crystals

[iron dew]

i wont 🙏

[dusk bronze]

why is it bleeding

[trail oriole]

energy exiting the root system

[fringe quiver]

the current exo blade is honestly one of myl east favorite weapon designs in this mod 💔

[dusk bronze]

hm

[thick coyote]

disagree

[trail oriole]

the crystaals aare dark to symbolize the lack of energy inside of them

[fringe quiver]

It just looks so. eug

[fringe quiver]

"disagree"

ITS A OPINION ‼️

[thick coyote]

i mean yeah

and i disagree?

[summer shore]

Finally miracle matter having an explanation of what it does beyond "idk random shit"

[dusk bronze]

is the rainbow blade part not crystal?

[fringe quiver]

you disagree with it being one of my least favorite weapon designs??? 😭

[summer shore]

It's clearly not your least favourite

[thick coyote]

i guess that is a weird way to respond

[trail oriole]

what

[summer shore]

Smh cheese I know your opinions

[trail oriole]

the rainbow blade is a crystal yeah

[dusk bronze]

the blade looks like crystal but isn't dark

[trail oriole]

what

[lyric trellis]

Truly is a miracle

[dusk bronze]

guh

[fringe quiver]

It's just so deeply visually unappealing to me and i guess it has a Blade yeah but it just does not register to me as a sword in the slightest

[summer shore]

Tobias was talking about the new miracle matter

[fringe quiver]

why is it Hole

[summer shore]

Exoblade's sprite is Not the new miracle matter

[dusk bronze]

yes i know

i was too

[lapis oak]

dark crystal = pitch black? 😨

[lyric trellis]

It’s the Calamity mod (the sword)

[trail oriole]

yeah dawg i literally have it on my sheet

[iron dew]

guys look its the calamity logo!!! isnt that so awesome!!!

[trail oriole]

the inside is literally dark

yeah

[dusk bronze]

not as dark as the other crystals

[fringe quiver]

Like yeah you can like subvert your sense of realism but that only goes so far i think
If i see something and my brain does not clearly register it as what it is meant to be then i think you're taking hte irrealism a little too far

[dusk bronze]

it's a bit confusing

[pulsar cobalt]

o is that another thing dia edited then

[trail oriole]

i mean i can leak a scrapped miracle weapon ideaa to

show whaat i mean

[lapis oak]

time to leak

[thick coyote]

ironically

it not reading as a sword

is why i love it

[summer shore]

leak time !!

[lyric trellis]

It’s certainly a blade

[lapis oak]

daily leak coming to spoiler talk

[lyric trellis]

A very big one

[lapis oak]

everyone ready up

[summer shore]

but is it an exo one

[trail oriole]

nvm

[thick coyote]

[summer shore]

Damn!

[dusk bronze]

FUCK

[lapis oak]

😢

[thick coyote]

baite

oh hey that reminds me

[boreal badger]

are there any whip spoilers

[trail oriole]

but dawg it is dark huuuhhhh this guys a ragebaiter

[thick coyote]

i have money now!

[summer shore]

Tobaited

[thick coyote]

time to hop over to the patreon

[lapis oak]

jebaited is not helthy

😢

[dusk bronze]

do you want me to dm you to show you what i mean

[trail oriole]

ur ragebiating mister xzier, you're on my rage bait list now im going to remember you
you're here to disagree with me so i can poke holes in ur arguements

yeah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921040017952997427/1383962838405611621/gvlpnvke.gif

ragemaxxing

[iron dew]

awesome gif

[lyric trellis]

“Exo and miracle are separate” the miraculous exo blade coming in to ruin everything:

[trail oriole]

miracle matter's new aesthetic is themed around exo crystals that are bled into an unstable form of material that can be used for combat such as the exo fcrystals

[fringe quiver]

honestly it'd go hard if exo blade was renamed to just

Miracle

[trail oriole]

how do you communicate that?, well exo crystals had roots so maybe you make the roots pale

[fringe quiver]

comically powerful weapons with comically short names my beloved

[lyric trellis]

Scal drops

[trail oriole]

and maybe you make the exo crystals dark inside and light outside instead of the opposite

[dusk bronze]

the throngler

[trail oriole]

and maybe you make them bleed the bled energy out of the roots

well the design doesnt make sense sorry

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-what-now-annoyed-harry-potter-dumbledore-gif-5381156

cant win ever

[urban cloak]

miracleaver might go hard honestly

[dusk bronze]

i'm confused about ONE THING

[vivid hemlock]

fryzahh suggests this in dev now

[dusk bronze]

wtf that was a joke

[fringe quiver]

what are you confused about Xzier_Tengal

explain

[dusk bronze]

can't say here bc spoiler

[lapis oak]

the thing next to Exo Prism is new Miracle Matter sprite ye?

[pulsar cobalt]

is there any reason u made the blood the colour of normal blood or was it just easier to get the point across that its blood like

[fringe quiver]

sends you to hell

[urban cloak]

just like dm it to tobias or smth ig

unless he has you blocked

then uh oh!

[pulsar cobalt]

or yknow

[iron dew]

i think we should name it the truer terrablade who agrees with me

[pulsar cobalt]

has it so that only friends can dm or watever

[lyric trellis]

Omega Terra blade

[vivid hemlock]

terrablade -> terratomere -> truer terrablade
checks out

[urban cloak]

terra edge...

[lapis oak]

I will poke through your DM protection shield and send amogus

[lyric trellis]

Top 10 worst weapons in the mods history

[trail oriole]

blood

[pulsar cobalt]

wat if exo blade got rename to

[arctic cliff]

truth be told, i initally hated this one because i thought the previous design was better executed, even if that one was apparently incompllete

[vivid hemlock]

dividing all of your electrons

in 3

[lapis oak]

Marksman Bow killed my wife

D;

[pulsar cobalt]

terra||ria||

[arctic cliff]

and then i grew on it and i genuinely enjoy it

[trail oriole]

noo need to bash the current sprites guys 🫰

[summer shore]

Where..

[trail oriole]

you can give a good reason as to why its not you're favourite design ever but people still put work into them so no need to meaningly bash them

[untold chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-deltarune-chapter-4-chapter-4-jackenstein-your-taking-too-long-gif-5106021086822029178

[drowsy reef]

Are people in this channel okay

[lapis oak]

huh? the now gone leaks

you don't have it saved?

[summer shore]

Fuck man

[trail oriole]

theyre victims of no second lookovers to ensure the quality if the designs were up to par

[trail oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-deltarune-chapter-4-chapter-4-jackenstein-your-taking-too-long-gif-5106021086822029178

[lapis oak]

too bad for u

[trail oriole]

whats thiss even

[pulsar cobalt]

depends on ur definition of okay

[urban cloak]

dont diss my goat like that

[pulsar cobalt]

deltarune spoilers

[trail oriole]

dont spoil deltarune i just started today :/

[lapis oak]

but then I mean they were there for like more than 10 hours

[urban cloak]

unironically used terra edge in my first pt and it worked well

[pulsar cobalt]

💔 🫗

[urban cloak]

:(** **

[lyric trellis]

You know what else you could’ve used

[vivid hemlock]

can i repost the sawblade and mm sprites shown in that image without the exoblade in it

[summer shore]

They were where

[lapis oak]

in here

[urban cloak]

a second terra edge

[summer shore]

🥀

[arctic cliff]

i will feed you the broccoli that adds 1 positron to each of your atoms

[trail oriole]

dia said he didnt care

[summer shore]

dear people of the spoilers can I see the dleeted ones

[lyric trellis]

Red copied Calamity

[vivid hemlock]

aighty

[fringe quiver]

my bad gang didn't mean to sound like a hater
it's a well made sprite the design is just very unappealing to me

[trail oriole]

then i can also talk about the design

[summer shore]

What the fuck

[lyric trellis]

What the hell did I do

[trail oriole]

miracle matter itself isnt official uet

but the sawblade is practically finished im sure

[arctic cliff]

okay im gonna be honest the colors still dont feel right to me

[untold chasm]

execution good, concept wack

[summer shore]

IT'S SO BIG

[hasty hawk]

same

i will miss the green

[trail oriole]

its (quite beeg)

you DONT miss the green cause every weapon has different colors

[arctic cliff]

even old miracle matter feels... inexplicably cohesive? despite how much colors there is?

[pulsar cobalt]

from wat ive seen the crystals glow any colour

so green can still exist

[vivid hemlock]

tbh it had like

3 colors

[summer shore]

Oh is it like elemental

[vivid hemlock]

green gray and purple

[trail oriole]

yeah

[lapis oak]

we can see Miracle Matter being very dark, inside

[pulsar cobalt]

yea but inverted

[summer shore]

With lots of colours spread across all the weapons

[vivid hemlock]

maybe abit of blue

[lapis oak]

in the sprite

[vivid hemlock]

but thats it

[summer shore]

That's awesome

[fringe quiver]

My issue with the current miracle matter design is the opposite of that which is funny

[arctic cliff]

lmao

[untold chasm]

like it looks ok when the blades are on it but like

[fringe quiver]

Current miracle is very incohesive and its like, forced

[dense sundial]

all miracle stuff has the Graphical Fidelity but not the Design or the Style

[fringe quiver]

its a very forced way to make it feel chaotic and unnatural i think

[pulsar cobalt]

we were talking about it in here earlier i think about how the design is essentially an inversion of elemental and exo themes

[dense sundial]

if that makes any sense

[fringe quiver]

honestly yea

[trail oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921040017952997427/1383962838405611621/gvlpnvke.gif

[fringe quiver]

the sprites are well made and i can tell theres talent put in them

[arctic cliff]

that said i'll say this and that the saws here look fantastic

[fringe quiver]

but the design is just very bleh because the miracle aesthethic is bleh, i think

[trail oriole]

i mean maybe theres some things to be said about the shape and size and such

butt like

design wise theyre just the inverse of the element set

[vivid hemlock]

i think its fair to say the saw launcher could be a tad smaller

[trail oriole]

visually

[dense sundial]

oh wait true

[summer shore]

Wait inversion

[pulsar cobalt]

BALD

[summer shore]

Black roots into white roots

Lmao

[pulsar cobalt]

ya

[trail oriole]

concept wise theyre a bit deeper but if people have a problem with this they should also have a problem with the elemental set

[untold chasm]

BALD

[trail oriole]

they also play toeghtether in the same way so yeah

[pulsar cobalt]

and crystals that are black but still glow

[fringe quiver]

fucked up organic looking weapons ❤️

[lapis oak]

roots weren't black 🤔

[dusk bronze]

tobias i'm sorry man the crystal blades just don't read as dark to me like the small ones do

[summer shore]

you're black

[lapis oak]

they're were lively roots but now white washed

wtf

[trail oriole]

?!

[dense sundial]

see, this miracle matter direction actually reads like something

[brave star]

So is the exo blade and the miracle matter sprite a wip or a concept by finding the right fit

[pulsar cobalt]

these are dia sprites not tobias ones btw

[summer shore]

The elemental roots looked black to me

Or just dark

[trail oriole]

cause theres less space to work with dawg

[lapis oak]

oh you talking about Elemental

[arctic cliff]

actually wait

[pulsar cobalt]

yes

[trail oriole]

what is the point youre trying to make even

[lapis oak]

I'm talking about normal Miracle Matter roots

in Gauss Nuke

[untold chasm]

how many resprites has the exoblade been through

[lapis oak]

they're lively

[trail oriole]

4?

[arctic cliff]

these are probably just attempts to find the design theme in the process of bashing out stuff

[untold chasm]

yeah that seems right

[pearl sentinel]

@untold chasm homed stuck

[trail oriole]

first sprite?
inanis
heart
tobias

[vivid hemlock]

its going to be 7

[dense sundial]

all i hope is that the blade and miracle matter get smaller

[fringe quiver]

I mean they're not completely dark no but you can tell they're darker tones
they kinda give of blacklight to me

[trail oriole]

7?

[vivid hemlock]

once the new one gets added

[trail oriole]

thats crazy

[vivid hemlock]

yeah

[trail oriole]

yeah but thats like

the fault of not trying something new sadlyyy womb

[fringe quiver]

like compare the two saws here

[trail oriole]

we're going to see if we cant give miracle matter its final sprites this time aha

[brave star]

Exo blade

[fringe quiver]

dawg

[dense sundial]

cosmore really

[trail oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-what-now-annoyed-harry-potter-dumbledore-gif-5381156

[lapis oak]

dawg that a leak

[brave star]

Oh ok

[lapis oak]

really Cos

[brave star]

I didn’t know

[lapis oak]

do back reading more

[trail oriole]

its fine lmao just dont share it

[untold chasm]

looks a bit questionable imo

[trail oriole]

🧘‍♂️ we do a bit of leaking

[lyric trellis]

Discord user doesn’t backread all 500 messages, immediately banned

[lapis oak]

this is literally Cal art voice chat

[brave star]

You the boss

So ok I understand

[lapis oak]

except it happening in here instead

[trail oriole]

it was an edit of the exoblade btwww

mines a teeny bit visually less busy on the blade cause i dont color like dia

[brave star]

[trail oriole]

take that as a good or bad thing depending on what youre into

[fathom girder]

Miracle matter goes through final designs like terraria goes through final updates

It just never ends

[lyric trellis]

I mean

[brave star]

I like the unique color on the miracle matter sprites you devs are making

And how more otherworldly it looks

[lyric trellis]

It’s only had like 2 counting this one

[trail oriole]

i dont want the premature sharing of concepts so people can like

rip into the design and then i have to defend why my sprite actual works and so on

ure just going to have to believe! aha

[brave star]

Ok

[fathom girder]

I love when non spriters argue about if a sprite works or not

Love it!!!

[summer shore]

Man I look away for half a minute

[untold chasm]

its not fully rendered yet so it's up in the air whether it actually works

[summer shore]

😭

[fathom girder]

Hi

[summer shore]

Shit luck

[trail oriole]

again aesthetic wise, if you dont have a problem with the elemental set you shouldnt have a problem with this
whether orrrr not we make them look good either way though is debatable

[fringe quiver]

You can still criticize stuff even if ur not a spriter if you actually try providing helpful critique or know what you're talking about but people tend to be like really bad at that

[brave star]

That’s how Chaos works in this server

[untold chasm]

current elemental set is aged poorly save for the ark of the elements which is doing its own thing

[fathom girder]

I love how they look

[trail oriole]

i have enough faith in myself to make a good sprite for exoblade in the 4 years time span it gets before it gets implimented

[pulsar cobalt]

thats wat theyre talking about

[vivid hemlock]

yeah we're talking new elemental

not the old one

[pulsar cobalt]

aote and superradiant slaughterer

[trail oriole]

current elemental being
ark
cause its literally the only thing ingame gulp

[pulsar cobalt]

and also the mihaii arts

[trail oriole]

i mean like

[fringe quiver]

theres also supperradiant

got added last upd

[trail oriole]

roots that sprout into crystals like, that aesthetic is still there

[fringe quiver]

we officially have 2 updated elemental designs amen it only took like uhh a few years

[vivid hemlock]

dont worry

[pulsar cobalt]

2 mayb 3 years

[vivid hemlock]

indev version has 3 more (shiv, axe and eruption)

[lyric trellis]

When the criticism is entirely based on ”it looks different than before” 💔

[pulsar cobalt]

aote has existended since i first played cal which was during the initial port to 1.4

[fringe quiver]

desert scourge

😭

[lapis oak]

3 more in dev as changelogs has said

maybe future changelogs patch will include more

[brave star]

Sorry if I didn’t see any previous messages about what I’m about to ask but, may I ask if the new miracle matter stuff is gonna be the final tier of the elemental related weapons?

[trail oriole]

nooo theres people who have good feedback dont punch down on everything being said

you just kind of have to outsource a bit

[dull heart]

my feedback is

[trail oriole]

🧘‍♂️

[dull heart]

idk I haven't seen it

[trail oriole]

you have

idiot

[fringe quiver]

ive seen people provide actually good feedback on this community

[dull heart]

not the most recent ones

[trail oriole]

???

[fringe quiver]

not very often the case tho

[dull heart]

well I saw the exoblade ig

[lapis oak]

Tuki you so new, 3 seconds existence

[dull heart]

Which was different than the last one I saw

and I think I saw the uhh

heavenly gale?

[pulsar cobalt]

1.4 port was 2 years ago...

[brave star]

I do like the the colors and the unique design of the miracle stuff you posted earlier Tobias

[vivid hemlock]

kiriwhite dementia

[brave star]

It looks even more eye catching than ever

[fringe quiver]

it's pretty refreshing when it happens tho

[lapis oak]

😢 when the dementia hits

[pulsar cobalt]

also kiri for attempting to insult me

[fringe quiver]

nice to go this chat and see the rare instance of someone providing actually good and well written critique

[pulsar cobalt]

im adding 19 electrons into your body

[fringe quiver]

dosent happen often but its nice when it does

[brave star]

Yea

[lapis oak]

😭

[untold chasm]

the new miracle stuff feels like it leans more heavily into magic than tech visually which is somewhat of a shift

[fringe quiver]

i wouldn't say the previous one was tech either ngl

[trail oriole]

not sure if tech was ever a focus but yeas

[pulsar cobalt]

exo prisms are essentially magic anyway

[fringe quiver]

exo stuff feels techy but dunno about miracle

[untold chasm]

it wasn't strictly tech, no, but visually it leaned a bit less away from that

[still trellis]

i think the point is the tech is so good it just is magic at this point

[vivid hemlock]

NOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO OBEY ME!!! The seven (don't worry the seventh one is totally here) Exoblade souls:

[lapis oak]

I mean if you want Tech (shell) Exo drops are there

[pulsar cobalt]

crystal thingys that literally produce infinite magic

[brave star]

The six Exo blades of power

[trail oriole]

its a shift cause mm never really had its own identity

like

[pulsar cobalt]

fuck i meant

power

energy

[fringe quiver]

fai enough i can see that

[pulsar cobalt]

they produce infinite energy

[trail oriole]

yeah idk what to tell the people that preffered the abstract rainbow vomit

[hard copper]

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"

[brave star]

The second exo blade of the six is cancer

[fringe quiver]

remember when exo blade was supposed to be draedons sword

good ol times

[dull heart]

Abstract Rainbow Vomit was funny

[fathom girder]

First sword looks like it came from thorium

[brave star]

Old lore

So cool but nothing compared to today

[dull heart]

What is Draedon's uhh

bow

[vivid hemlock]

he has a gun

[brave star]

Heavenly Gale?

[dull heart]

What flail does he use

[pulsar cobalt]

spine of thanatos

[dull heart]

Does he have his own personal flare gun upgrade

[pulsar cobalt]

obviously

[lapis oak]

rainbow Wacro

[dull heart]

draedon spider

[urban cloak]

aureus

[lyric trellis]

Draedon pulls out Gale + DSO + Quiver of Nihility, good luck

[dull heart]

wait

you're so right

[pulsar cobalt]

wat if exo box was replaced with spider

[fringe quiver]

i think pulse rifle was said to be a weapon draedon personally used

i forgor if it was that exact thing but it was a gun and it was from the arsenal set

[dull heart]

But it can grab air

[lapis oak]

ye it is I mean it's in the game

[dull heart]

And moves exactly like exo box

[lapis oak]

the flavour text

[fringe quiver]

yeh

[vivid hemlock]

imagine pulse rifle but it has exo prisms stuck inside it

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[dull heart]

Draedon gave up his sword

But got a gun

[boreal edge]

It was internally named DraedonsExoblade for a while

[pulsar cobalt]

damn

can we rename exoblade pleeeaaasseee

[dull heart]

Draedon's sword is phaseslayer

[boreal edge]

Iconic argument I fear

[hard copper]

I thought it was yharims sword, back when it was made of auric bars

[lyric trellis]

Draeblade

[dull heart]

he has mechanical wrists

So it doesn't hurt

[pulsar cobalt]

if i see mm set being called exo set unironically one more time im gonna explode

[dull heart]

True Tyrant's Ultisword moment

[slate folio]

Can someone DM me the exo blade leak...

[lyric trellis]

Still does 3 damage

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[trail oriole]

no

[fathom girder]

no

[vivid hemlock]

nope

[thick coyote]

yharims sword being a random post provi weapon sure was

a choice

[trail oriole]

anyone does this theyre blacklisted from everything

[slate folio]

guh

[iron dew]

no

[slate folio]

yes I get it

[lapis oak]

too bad you're late for 10 hours quicktime event

[untold chasm]

the leak i saw wasnt that impressive anyways (probably due to being jpegged to hell)

[pulsar cobalt]

im gonna leak the sprite to my alt account

[slate folio]

dude I've been actually enjoying summer at the beach

[fathom girder]

Wow

[pulsar cobalt]

:3

[fringe quiver]

omg yea

[vivid hemlock]

no it was a screenshot of a blurry screen

[fringe quiver]

the fact you could just

get the final boss and main villain's weapon

[iron dew]

you snooze you looze

[fringe quiver]

before even rly getting in the endgame

just by crafting

yeah ti sure was

[vivid hemlock]

yharim's ultisword

[vivid hemlock]

true tyrant's ultisword

[fringe quiver]

can't wait for yharim to be added in 2075 and then we can get a new redesigned tyrant ultisword

[slate folio]

I'm gonna strangle you

[lyric trellis]

The weapon line of all time

[pulsar cobalt]

me when i screenshot a low quality stream of aseprite

[vivid hemlock]

truly

[hard copper]

does it drop from hatsune miku, the fifth exo mech?

[vivid hemlock]

and guess what

[pulsar cobalt]

yes

[vivid hemlock]

it was a screenshot of a video of the livestream

even worse

[pulsar cobalt]

guh

that stream is now lost media

(unless discord is secretely recording them all)

[dull heart]

hi i'm jack discord

i totally don't have it recorded

mhm

[pulsar cobalt]

oh ok

thanks for confirming that u totally didnt record our streams and vcs

[hard copper]

see, it says right there, ancient blade of yharim. absolutely havent left any important text out of the snip

[untold chasm]

blurry iphone 4s video of a stream confirming a calamity x peggle crossover

[lyric trellis]

Yharims (plural)

[fringe quiver]

turns out there wont be a yharim boss fight

[iron dew]

everyone knows that there are multiple yharims

[fringe quiver]

instead there will be a yharim event

[pulsar cobalt]

yea thats totally how it works sure

[fringe quiver]

not as in you fight a horde of yharim's army or anything no

you jiust fight a horde of yharims

[obtuse hawk]

One million yharims

[hard copper]

the yharmy !!!!1!

[pulsar cobalt]

deltarune ch4 spoilers ||like mike from deltarune||

[lyric trellis]

The true yharim was the friends we made along the way

[pulsar cobalt]

yharim is actually 3 kids in a suit of armour

[hard copper]

[fringe quiver]

3 wulfrums in a trenchcoat

[pulsar cobalt]

no

stop putting wulfrum in everything it doesnt automatically make it funny

💔 💔 🫗

[fringe quiver]

what do you mean dawg

tsuki the weird and strange princess

[vivid hemlock]

twulfrum the wulfrum princess

[pulsar cobalt]

roy has poisoned u

[pulsar cobalt]

explode

[vivid hemlock]

okay

[summer shore]

Tsuki is made of wulfrum

[pulsar cobalt]

yippee

[vivid hemlock]

transferring kinetic energy to kiri

[summer shore]

Everything makes sense now

[pulsar cobalt]

no more vanillin

[pulsar cobalt]

damn

[fringe quiver]

its called wulfrum humour buddy

[pulsar cobalt]

@lapis oak u hearing this?

[dull heart]

your wulfrum mom isn't funny

[vivid hemlock]

😁

[pulsar cobalt]

its called green blue and uhh

watever fucking colour wulfrum metal is i forgot

[dull heart]

Pink

[pulsar cobalt]

no it wasnt

[vivid hemlock]

green grey metal freakish amalgam

[hard copper]

yeah it was

[fringe quiver]

its like brown

[pulsar cobalt]

its NOT brown

[fringe quiver]

theres brown on it

the rust

[dawn ferry]

its yellow and green 😭

[fringe quiver]

theres literally brown on it

also red but that's only on the weapons

[dull heart]

It is pink

[fringe quiver]

they have these sort of rubbery red parts on them

the enemies don't though

[pulsar cobalt]

yea those kinds just appear

[fringe quiver]

probably because the weapons were made by iban before he left but he didn't get to resprite the enemies

and then in fables the enemies actually have the red bits

[pulsar cobalt]

i mean the wulfrum bastion (wulfrum set ability) doesnt have any red in it

weird

[summer shore]

The wulfrum armor itself does

[agile latch]

posting this on red nation

[pulsar cobalt]

thats a HAT

[fringe quiver]

i assume bc the bastion is like more heavily plated so the soft rubber parts dont show off as much

[agile latch]

the red is also cloth

[pulsar cobalt]

unless theres other reds on the wulfrum armour itself im pretty sure thats where it only appears

[agile latch]

it dont need to be forcefully added to everything and it also helps to avoid monopallete

[fringe quiver]

mhm

[fringe quiver]

i always saw it as like, rubber

[summer shore]

there's some brownery

[agile latch]

if the red material (rubber and cloth) made sense or helped the design of the bastion it would be in it, there is a bit of the red tones on the bastion arms tho

[agile latch]

rubber tophat

[pulsar cobalt]

it certainly

exists

ig

[fringe quiver]

oh so it's both rubber and cloth

that makes sense yea

[summer shore]

wouldn't be surprised if it's plastic too

[pulsar cobalt]

its everything

[fringe quiver]

unspecified non-metal

[dull heart]

ain't it plastic

[agile latch]

plastic tophat

[dull heart]

The top hat is brown

Not red

[summer shore]

brown is just darker red

[agile latch]

its more of rubber though anyway

[summer shore]

[agile latch]

it dont matter

[dusk bronze]

brown is dark orange

[agile latch]

the brown is literally dark red

[dusk bronze]

dumbass

[agile latch]

and part of the same pallete

🥹

[dull heart]

ok wait

Only the screwdriver has the real red

[summer shore]

Rude

[agile latch]

"brown"

[pulsar cobalt]

its a dulled down red not orange iirc

[agile latch]

[pulsar cobalt]

i mean

[agile latch]

the screwdriver use a diferent pallete (in its case its more plastic yea)

[pulsar cobalt]

fucking brown

[dull heart]

yeah I was thinking

Screwdriver red

Not the other dark red

[dusk bronze]

huh what's the scrap sprite from

[urban cloak]

fables

[agile latch]

fable

[dusk bronze]

ah

[agile latch]

you can also see the design intent of the red parts very well

on the fables wulfrum

(beloved fables)

[vivid hemlock]

fables' wulfrum rover ❤️

[dull heart]

I need to fable

[pulsar cobalt]

ill fable

sometime

[iron dew]

calamity table

[agile latch]

calamity tables

[fringe quiver]

what is this some kincd of

[pulsar cobalt]

(in the far future i want more of a completed mod)

[vivid hemlock]

this thing is from rust and dust 😭

[agile latch]

https://tenor.com/view/conductor-we-have-a-problem-cat-cute-funny-gif-17168115721186324165

[pulsar cobalt]

((give me like pre hm and ill play it))

[fringe quiver]

the wulfrum enemies are so .

[agile latch]

the wulfrums in cal will eventually be redesigned too..

they are really guh rn

[vivid hemlock]

🙏

[agile latch]

(need to define a proper wulfrum aesthetic though)

had some discussions with dia and tobia about it already

[summer shore]

todiangle

[pulsar cobalt]

babys first engineering project

[summer shore]

The trio

[fringe quiver]

we were talking on roydev abt this but like

they are so mechanically uninteresting

rover and gyrator are basically the same thing

drone and hovercraft are also basically the same thing

they have some minor diferences in behavior n stats yeah, drone gets lasers while amplified while hovercraft dosen't and rover gets the shield while gyrator gets speedier

but my god these differences r so minor and come up so infrequently you might aswell only have 3 enemies

😭

[agile latch]

i plan for a second elite wulfrum guy already..

i need to sprite him eventually

[vivid hemlock]

i love how fables gives them unique roles

[agile latch]

the satellite

[fringe quiver]

wulfrum vanguard real life

[agile latch]

(instead of buffing, he gives shields to other wulfrums)

[dull heart]

wulf spider...

[pulsar cobalt]

second?

[agile latch]

and has little sentry guys he can place on ground

[agile latch]

pylon

[pulsar cobalt]

oh

[fringe quiver]

in roy we just have a wulfrum with big hands that punches you to death

hes a goofy guy

[vivid hemlock]

omg wulfrum sattelite...

[fringe quiver]

: D

[pulsar cobalt]

also arent they called amplifiers now

[dull heart]

Wulfrum weapons should supercharge near an amplifier

[fringe quiver]

YEA

[pulsar cobalt]

wtf

[fringe quiver]

THEY GOwhy caps

[pulsar cobalt]

i didnt even click reply

[fringe quiver]

they got renamed to amplifiers to avoid confusion with terraria pylons after 1.4

[dull heart]

supercharged wacro pack

[vivid hemlock]

🥀

[pulsar cobalt]

yet sandstorm and thunderstorm havent been renamed until fucking

[vivid hemlock]

1.4 and its consequences

[pulsar cobalt]

the next update (sso)

[spark kiln]

??

[vivid hemlock]

its a joke

[spark kiln]

jokes are supposed to be checks notes funny

[vivid hemlock]

my apologies original gangster

[lyric trellis]

1.4 absolutely ruined terraria…. (Added qs)

[fringe quiver]

honestly pylon is a word i never see used like ever so its kind of funny calamity coincidentally used it before 1.4 came around and added the town pylons

[summer shore]

Pylon gun

[pulsar cobalt]

just two letters away...

[vivid hemlock]

@valid crypt

[dull heart]

no, they're supposed to be about wulfrum

[summer shore]

Relax, it's called wulfrumour

[pulsar cobalt]

oh god why is it that large in image form

[vivid hemlock]

the demon of lore discussion

[dawn ferry]

i hate ts image

[summer shore]

That's rude what has this image done to you

[dull heart]

Hi guys

Wanna see a WIP of lacerator

[summer shore]

hi dozen

[fringe quiver]

why is ur name that :(

[pulsar cobalt]

sure

[fringe quiver]

chikorita is cute

[dull heart]

From before it had srpites

[pulsar cobalt]

sure

[fringe quiver]

sure John Wulfrum Acrobatics Pack

thats awesome dude

badass even

[pulsar cobalt]

peak why wasnt it like this ingame

[vivid hemlock]

oh weve seen this before but without the string

[dull heart]

This should have shipped tbh

[vivid hemlock]

i think (?)

[dull heart]

Idk

[dawn ferry]

idk i hate chikorita for no particular reason

[pulsar cobalt]

yd u have to make a new sprite for the sawblade

[pulsar cobalt]

secret if ur called dozezoze

[dull heart]

make it so it looks like that to everyone except other devs

they'll never know

[pulsar cobalt]

do it

[dull heart]

oh oops that image leaked a little more then just the old visual

[pulsar cobalt]

r u gonna delete it

[grave geyser]

is it litterally just the debuffs

[cobalt wharf]

that debuff is ingame right now superradiant slaughterer uses it

[dull heart]

Does it?

[thick coyote]

yeah

the saws have their own debuffs

[summer shore]

Lacerator weapon inflicts laceration

[dull heart]

cool but I didn't mean debuffs anyway

[thick coyote]

oh

the damage numbers are the only other thing that seems off

but i just assumed you had colored damage types mod on

[pulsar cobalt]

its the numbers being red. lacerator will have supercrits or watever it was called

[dull heart]

I did

it's not anything major TBH

[pulsar cobalt]

OH WAIT

its the blood effect on the dummy

[dull heart]

ture

[rose laurel]

Shoutouts to when we made the fucking enemy tier list yesterday on Dev and realized

Holy shit

Every Cal enemy is dogshit

[fringe quiver]

😭

[rose laurel]

There were like, 2 enemies I'd deem actually good

.

And they are Slab Crab and Cannonball Jellyfish

So the two most recent ones lmao

[fringe quiver]

Oh my god

unironically yeah those two are the most well executed ones

[obtuse hawk]

Those who slab crab

[fringe quiver]

Cannonbal Jellyfish could use some VFX polish but it has an actually cool little behavior

its literally just ooma hollow knight

[lyric trellis]

Fish Alert

[fringe quiver]

Mirage jelly is another one i feel like mentioning because its in a weird spot where it has a neat concept but its execution is very Bad

Like it's more of a ambient thing than an actual enemy

And it teleporting around could be neat

[pulsar cobalt]

cuttlefish

[fringe quiver]

But also

[pulsar cobalt]

why

why are cuttlefish so bland looking

[fringe quiver]

1. it drops a shit ton of loot for some reason even though its barely a enemy
2. its teleport is in desperate need of actual vfx because it literally just diseappears and reappears elsewhere

to give it credit thoug hit's got one of the most visually nice looking designs of calamity enemies

[arctic cliff]

they finally realized

[pulsar cobalt]

hey cheese u know ur fish right

[fringe quiver]

ya

glub glub

[arctic cliff]

calamity enemies are somehow even worse than calamity bosses in every single way

[pulsar cobalt]

can u explain why irl cuttlefish are actually awesome

[buoyant pulsar]

can someone quickly explain the design philosophy of the new exo weapons

[urban cloak]

calamity enemies is like 45-50% boss minions too

[summer shore]

because they're not fish

[buoyant pulsar]

im trying to explain to my friend

[urban cloak]

economy is truly crumbling

[dusk bronze]

ping tobias or backread his messages

[buoyant pulsar]

which

[rose laurel]

Bro I'm gonna be real I fucking hate when you say this shit

[fringe quiver]

cuttlefish go wee woo and change their colors and shapes around in funky ways

we thought it was to hypnotize its prey initially but it turns out it's just really wacky camouflage

albeit honestly the hypnotizing thing would make for a fire enemy

https://tenor.com/view/cuttlefish-squid-underwater-amazing-gif-17821838

example ;D

[rose laurel]

It reads as if you're basically saying "took you long enough" with an added smugness and superiority to it

[lyric trellis]

A bit hyperbolic but close enough

[urban cloak]

maybe

i haven't looked at the full list in a while it's definitely quite a bit

maybe like 25% or smth

[fringe quiver]

While octopi oftne just camouflage as whatever terrain they're hiding in cuttlefish just go fuck it we ball and do

[fringe quiver]

whatever this is

and it surprisingly like, works

really well

[lyric trellis]

I mean I also did an enemy tierlist yesterday and there’s a lot of non-boss enemies but they’re almost all ass/don’t matter anyway

[urban cloak]

yea

[pulsar cobalt]

exo prisms have all their energy extracted which makes black crystals that glow vibrant colours and pale white roots that bleed

[rose laurel]

FROGFISH!!!!

[lyric trellis]

Abyss when you just kill everything

[fringe quiver]

frogfish

that

[urban cloak]

a lot of em are also just aquatic which i suppose you cant get away from when you have two large water biomes

[fringe quiver]

is a enemy

that exists

[pulsar cobalt]

think of it more like an evolution of the elemental set rather than exo prisms tbh

[fringe quiver]

frogfish

sure is. a enemy. that by all means. exist

[iron dew]

my favorite calamity enemy is that one in the abyss that shoots golem lasers for some reason

[fringe quiver]

i will say please keep the mantis shrimp

rework it yes but please keep it

i love mantis shrimp

[urban cloak]

mantis shrimp is living dw

[lyric trellis]

Aware

[fringe quiver]

and it's actually a pretty fitting idea for a hardmode ocean enemy i think

[rose laurel]

I'm the person who says that we shouldn't add ocean enemies it's so fucking stupid that biome already has SO MUCH SHIT IN IT in Vanilla and it's fucking miniscule and

However

Mantis Shrimp

That one gets to live

[pulsar cobalt]

thanks !

[fringe quiver]

good !

[rose laurel]

Everything else should die horribly though

Ocean isn't a real biome

[fringe quiver]

i think mantis shrimp fits really well with

[urban cloak]

box jellyfish, moray eels and frogfish

[fringe quiver]

being a hardmode ocean enemy

[urban cloak]

all nothing enemies

[fringe quiver]

why are moray eels and box jellyfish

even there

[lyric trellis]

Frogfish is maybe the most forgettable enemy in the mod besides a new small one like the slab crab

[fringe quiver]

they're literally abyss things already 😭

[pulsar cobalt]

but but but but moray eel bestiary entry

[urban cloak]

what does the moray eel entry say i dont keep up with lore very well

[fringe quiver]

i think moray eels and box jellies should be kept but redesigned

[rose laurel]

Box Jellyfish can be fused with Cannonball Jellyfish imo and Moray Eel shoud just

[fringe quiver]

like

they're literally just

[rose laurel]

Be an Abyss enemy

[fringe quiver]

Real Animal from Real Life

[rose laurel]

Ahem

[pulsar cobalt]

its very important u should read it

[arctic cliff]

Fun fact: Infernum Mod actually reworks the abyss enemies quite a bit. Moray Eels, for one, ACTUALLY ACT LIKE MORAY EELS

[pulsar cobalt]

sshhhh

[fringe quiver]

Actually

fair assesment

[rose laurel]

"When a fish bites your heel and it looks like an eel, that's a moray. When it swims in the reef and has two sets of teeth, that's a moray. When you're slapped in the face with a slimy embrace, that's a moray."

[fringe quiver]

We don't need 2 different jellyfish types on abyss layer 1

Fair assesment actually.

[urban cloak]

okay thats funny ngl

[pulsar cobalt]

:3

[still bluff]

we should add more enemies that just have fighter ai

[fringe quiver]

Just call it like Lurker Moray or something and redesign it to be a bit more fantasy looking and keep it in the abyss layer 1 as a enemy

[still bluff]

reskinned zombies

[lyric trellis]

Box Jellyfish’s only noteworthy aspect that I learned of yesterday is that Infernum forgot they spawned in the normal ocean while doing their abyss rework, so apparently in the normal ocean they fly and deal 400 damage or something??? 😭

[pulsar cobalt]

we should remove all bast statues from desert loot and cabins

[arctic cliff]

wait what?

XD

[still bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/death-die-gun-pumpkin-fuck-you-gif-7837063802596359671

[buoyant pulsar]

where do the roots come from though ?????

[urban cloak]

yea

[arctic cliff]

Add Bast Statue enemies and they act like those graveyard stone cats from elden ring

[still bluff]

QUARH

[lyric trellis]

Put it out of it’s misery

[pulsar cobalt]

i said to think about it more like an evolution of new elemental design...

[dusk bronze]

from the prism

[rose laurel]

But yeah Ocean should have exactly one enemy and that's Mantis Shrimp

Everything else shouldn't exist

[buoyant pulsar]

ohhhh

[rose laurel]

Ocean literally isn't a biome, it's a glorified world edge

[buoyant pulsar]

i didn't see this sorry

[dusk bronze]

true

[rose laurel]

That's why it has a grand total of 2 enemies in Vanilla

And 55 critters

Ocean exists to be a vibe

It succeeds at that

We don't need Frogfish

[arctic cliff]

I dunno man I don't like the whole "Elemental weapon set 2.0" vibe

[urban cloak]

moray eels i can see staying but they'd need to be reworked entirely and be taken out of the abyss

[lyric trellis]

I was gonna say who ever gets mantis claws/goes to the ocean biome post-plant but I remembered Levi exists

[urban cloak]

frogfish can be sent to the burning depths of hell

[iron dew]

this is a real enemy??????

[dense sundial]

infernum abyss 🙏

[lyric trellis]

Yes

[rose laurel]

Yes

Yes they are

[dusk bronze]

unfortunately yes

[lyric trellis]

“Real”

[iron dew]

i have never seen this thing in my life

[dense sundial]

correct! infernum box jelly doesn't have water physics so it just flies

[rose laurel]

It should be a Sulphurous Depth enemy imo

[urban cloak]

i'd vibe with that as well