calamity-update-talk

[fringe quiver]

we just haven't seen its new sprite yet

[azure oak]

next enemy in changelogs will be desert scourge reworked

[vivid hemlock]

i just need to see the sprite

[fringe quiver]

sunken sea overhaulk changelogs

1- overhauled sunken sea
2 - desert scourge new
3 - jerry
4 - aaa

[azure oak]

5 - de-fabsolized more

[brave star]

Can someone tell me which crab related SSO creature technically brings back the one sunken crab from scrapped content doc

[obtuse hawk]

sunken spongebob overhaul

[azure oak]

sunken cost overhaul

[lavish otter]

Can I ask for some context?

Because that sounds pretty specific, and intriguing

[azure oak]

closest is hermititan i guess

because big sunken sea crab

[brave star]

Context

It was around the time before SSO

When things were too blue

[fringe quiver]

none of them

[lavish otter]

Ah yeah, then probably hermititans if anything

[fringe quiver]

ithe unnamed sunken sea crab is a scrapped enemy and it was not brought back

[brave star]

I believe u

Hermitians probably did live on the sunken sea

[azure oak]

auric back pain

[fringe quiver]

auric auneryms

[brave star]

And some lived on mushrooms

[fringe quiver]

aunerysm

[barren nacelle]

Hermititans DO live in the sunken sea

[fringe quiver]

auric blowing up

[lavish otter]

They will currently, they're where Crabulon came from

[brave star]

Hi crispy

[fringe quiver]

auric stroke

auric help me

[brave star]

Before the mushrooms weaponized Crabulon, was the Crabulon a fighter or just a guardian of its crab family

[valid crypt]

Auric no

[brave star]

Hello deltarune today

[valid crypt]

DELTARUNE TODAY

[lavish otter]

Damn, Cheese just got...auric rejected

[fringe quiver]

auric i miss my wife

[brave star]

Damn

So that’s what auric rejection feels like

[mystic eagle]

Notice how the Hermitian is wip in Gleaming Burrows but finished in Radiant Reefs? This is because the Radiant Reefs version is already perfect

[raw falcon]

SSO doesnt stand for sunken sea overhaul, it stands for Silksong online

Silksong tomorrow

[vivid hemlock]

silksong mobile game

[lavish otter]

I'm looking back through the Chinese Terraria sprites by the way, and it's kind of funny how from the old version to the new one, most of the designs went from complete reimaginings of what the bosses are to mostly just visual updates of their original designs + censorship

...then there's Santa NK1

[valid crypt]

Lmao???

[fringe quiver]

they just removed his nose and made him less happy

[lavish otter]

I think they tried to make the face look less skeletal, but it just...yeah, it's one of the more awkward attempts

[fringe quiver]

the lore behind this is that santank lost hisa nose and because of that he got depressed

[azure oak]

i like it when musics make the noise

[upper cosmos]

I think the santank is the name for what happens when Sans Undertale makes a killdozer

[azure oak]

ayress umpskair e

i tnink my exams are getting to me

[valid crypt]

Not animated smh

[lavish otter]

Ha, imagine being in school

[azure oak]

spoph

[lunar hull]

why he yapping

[strange furnace]

When can the sunken sea update be expected?

[azure oak]

read pins

[hasty tangle]

some time within the next 4 quindecillion years

[strange furnace]

Makes sense

But feel like its been brewin for a long time x)

[hasty tangle]

it has been

scope creep moment

[strange furnace]

Those new armor resprites look so crisp, i just want em rn

[dry whale]

armors wont be in sso iirc

atleast not part 1

I think

[azure oak]

dray donn

[dense sundial]

And Fabsol avoidance moment

But yeah

[viral merlin]

Mostly scope creep

We're never seeing SSO because they will keep on adding and adding and adding and adding and adding and

[hasty tangle]

the sunken scope update

[azure oak]

they've already stopped creeping their scope

[viral merlin]

Should've done that sooner probably

[azure oak]

update too big, had to be cracked into 2

[viral merlin]

I wanted to make a really bad joke but I'm above that

[azure oak]

would post good but i'm afraid that it iwll bel ocated by them

[formal zealot]

what, what does 675 mean

[azure oak]

there was originally gonna be a third twin in master mode

got annihilated before it saw the light of day

[valid crypt]

Foveanator was a planned triplet for master twins that got hyper erased once fab dead

[viral merlin]

Good

[formal zealot]

lost media 👀

[valid crypt]

Lost media my ass i have pngs of it on my phone

[viral merlin]

Now remove the skeletron prime twin

[formal zealot]

your ass is lost media?

[valid crypt]

Omega and alpha also died iirc so already done

[viral merlin]

Good good

I heard nothing but bad things about them

[valid crypt]

All of master death is being torn up and changed at some point iirc

[azure oak]

almost all boss changes in BH will be dying

[viral merlin]

Malice levels of fun

[valid crypt]

Kill it

[azure oak]

master itself is being reverted to stat changes

[valid crypt]

Death is becoming only master death

And master rev is dying

[viral merlin]

Give master mode a special warning about it sucking

[valid crypt]

Master mode will become stat boosts like red intended

[dense sundial]

Sunken cost update(?)

[fringe quiver]

i'm pretty sure some will

victide ? probably

and maybe arsenal t1 but i don think thats confirmed

[hasty tangle]

scope creep, sunk cost

both abbreviate to SC

[formal zealot]

sunk cost
keep developing 💎

[valid crypt]

Super scope opdate

[formal zealot]

zapinator upgrade tho???

[fringe quiver]

scope creep underhaul

[vivid hemlock]

the fallacy

[fringe quiver]

SSO

skeletron soup overhaul

skeletron now drops bone broth when you kill it

thats literally all this update does

[azure oak]

sunk sunk onk

[silk notch]

not superconductivity?

[valid crypt]

Thats one word and thus only s

[azure oak]

i do not trust this chat with the sacred image

[fringe quiver]

the sacred image..

[valid crypt]

What image

[azure oak]

the sacred one

that image

[cinder hearth]

Rename hadal stew to bone broth

[valid crypt]

The terrarian?

[viral merlin]

Supreme Skeletron Overhaul

[azure oak]

no

Supreme Scalamitas O

[valid crypt]

Waur

Is it the scal goomba thing

[azure oak]

the sacred image

is not that

[fringe quiver]

the image

[azure oak]

not that

[silk notch]

slithering spaghetti octopus

[vivid hemlock]

sentinel

[fringe quiver]

this isn't the sacred image but the image

[azure oak]

it sure is

unique enemies my beloved

[fringe quiver]

i love enemies with actual interesting behaviors

waiter waiter

more fighter ais and worm ais

waiter waiter

more slimes

[azure oak]

the sacred image

[silk notch]

I don't like too much randomness in a boss fight, personally

[valid crypt]

I dont mind randomness as long as it fair

[raw falcon]

oooh i like this guy

[silk notch]

by don't like I mean if there are randomness I would expect them to do better in other ways

thus I... indeed don't like some of the thing deleted

[azure oak]

kill yharim with big rock

[silk notch]

is the foveanator's AI still a top secret? could we require some devs to describe it to me?

or should the devs keep it as lost media

[dull heart]

idek what fov did ngl

[azure oak]

JWAP do you have anything to satiate my hungerfor spoilers

[rose laurel]

I don't think Fov had AI ready

[silk notch]

if you let me guess, I would guess it would be a hell of randomness

[urban cloak]

fov had working ai i just dont think it was polished

i'd have to dig around on an older build to find it though cause i only summoned it like once lol

[raw falcon]

remembered

[silk notch]

lost media

[raw falcon]

good

[silk notch]

according to the changelog

[amber furnace]

is this old duke

[raw falcon]

no???

[silk notch]

too many random guesses I guess

[raw falcon]

thats a stormlion

[silk notch]

sorry for that

[fathom girder]

"Is this old duke"

I'd expect nothing less from a burger

[azure oak]

is this old duke

[pulsar cobalt]

yes

[rocky dawn]

confirmed

[fringe quiver]

randomness can be good and so can be actual p atterns

it all depends on what the fight is designed is to be

both can be good and both can be bad

ultimately you cant boil down good game design to 1 or 2 elements

[dull heart]

hey guys I have a spoiler

[azure oak]

a

[fathom girder]

Combos and chains and random attacks that lead into chains and-

[azure oak]

gib spoibler

[fathom girder]

Basically every boss should be rellana from elden ring dlc

[late eagle]

Give to me

[dull heart]

here is your calamity mod spoiler

[cunning sequoia]

bye leth

[azure oak]

to the eel pit with you

[pulsar cobalt]

clearly this is violences new addition

[dull heart]

banned

[fringe quiver]

what this spoiler means is that calamity will now start adding fire emblem reps to its roster

[delicate anvil]

Hi guysss

[dull heart]

drunk princess replaced with byleth

[fathom girder]

Arguably worse for the mod

[cunning sequoia]

5 new swordfighter classes

[fathom girder]

Byleth haters where you at

[cunning sequoia]

hate byleth for robbing me of rayman

[fathom girder]

Rayman is in brawlhalla it's okay

[fringe quiver]

peter griffin drowning image

[slow pendant]

Finally, three houses discourse in calamity!

(joking aside, if this is gonna be a weapon based on the SotC, i'm really excited to see what it'll be like)

[dull heart]

we already have durendal sorry

[slow pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[molten grove]

(is this what its actually based on (wiki trivia…))

[slow pendant]

ah, gifs don't work here, i forgot

[silk terrace]

This chat is for spoilers? Wth is a spoiler

[molten grove]

<insert that one car part>

[obtuse hawk]

my dumbass thought it was shadow of the colossus im so stupid

[dull heart]

Yes

[molten grove]

swag…

[stone zephyr]

calamity update tomorrow

[obtuse hawk]

squidward tomorrow

[slow pendant]

crab inside me

[silk terrace]

Deltarune tomo- nvm

[molten grove]

yeah, thats how the game works
it runs 60 updates a second (unless youre lagging)

[stone zephyr]

fps linked game engine yuck !

[azure oak]

SSO july 2nd

[dull heart]

SSO never

[distant raft]

❌

[stone zephyr]

1.4.5 might change this

[dull heart]

I ated it

[azure oak]

damnit

[distant raft]

vanilla 240fps doesn't run at 4x tick speed

[stone zephyr]

gulp

[distant raft]

tps is only limited by framerate or 60, whichever is lower

however, some things that run independent of tick speed are sped up

like the rotation of inferno potion

or crafting speed

or the bobbing of adventure with cute partners pets

[stone zephyr]

lots of anims

[azure oak]

b

[fathom girder]

Hello fovenator

[lilac needle]

hmm curious btw

why are the ai changes only being reverted but the health changes arent

def thinking more into this than i feel but are the health buffs to most vanilla bosses justified or smth

[twin trail]

What were the post s. cal bosses supposed to be again? Like they had planned out to Yharim haven't they? I think was it Draedon, Xeroc, and then Yharim?

Like for things they were like making concept art for n the like

[arctic turtle]

And noxus

[azure oak]

after both draedon and calamitas are defeated you will fight yharim eventually

[urban cloak]

SCal and Exos (same tier) -> Yharim -> Noxus -> Xeroc

[twin trail]

Oooh okay thanks!

[urban cloak]

The last two aren't guaranteed mind you, they're more in a state of limbo rn

will only get implemented if the team has the motivation to do so after yharim

[rustic fulcrum]

those gods are gonna be superbosses if they're implemented yeah

[azure oak]

noxus isnt a god but yeah

[rustic fulcrum]

oh he isnt

damn gotta check my lore knowledge

[molten grove]

[brave star]

YuH and the daily meal of pipis

[azure oak]

SSO will always be tomorrow

every day it will be the day after, and when it reaches that day it will only be further away

[valid crypt]

Lore got rewrote over 2 years ago so if your lore knowledge is before then
Id suggest rechecking the lore

[lapis oak]

Those musix boxes got resprited in the hotfix

They're ingame now

[azure oak]

oh right

[trail oriole]

what was the book resprited to

[azure oak]

held sprite got smaller iirc

[trail oriole]

oh thats not ingame right

[molten grove]

rename maggot to Leerslug and kill the left one
kill the leftmost Slugbun

[azure oak]

oke

[mellow spade]

"Mark of Providence" is an S-tier name

[molten grove]

the smaller SSV is in SSO rn

[lilac needle]

acid barrel and post moon lord meteor staff D:

why enforcer btw

wasnt it a usable weapon

[azure oak]

beats me

[molten grove]

boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz enough cosmilite melee weapons

[mellow spade]

aren't there already three

cosmic shiv, essence flayer, some kind of spear i think? and enforcer yeah

so four

[lapis oak]

Searslug Leerslug

[mellow spade]

the resprites look juicy I have to say

[azure oak]

cosmilite tier has cosmic shiv, devil's devastation, empyrian knives, essence flayer, galaxy smasher, phaseslayer, scourge of the cosmos, the enforcer, galaxia and orderbringer

[urban cloak]

essence flayer 🥹

[azure oak]

enforcer is being churned and galaxia & orderbringer are being retiered

[lapis oak]

Murasama and Stream Gouge

[pulsar cobalt]

excelsus, cosmic discharge, stream gouge

[lapis oak]

Many

[mellow spade]

I was thinking about weapons made just from cosmilite

honestly, I think there are too many weapons on that tier anyway

there's like seven mage weapons and almost all of them are immediately outclassed post-Yharon

[urban cloak]

consequence of having a game phase that's purely a boss rush

[mellow spade]

I think post-DoG gear could do with some shuffling around, maybe retiering a bunch to various stages pre-DoG

[urban cloak]

you get a ton of gear that just gets immediately replaced

[mellow spade]

yeah...

[pulsar cobalt]

wait

[pulsar cobalt]

can excelsus be killed

or renamed

please

[mellow spade]

DoG needs a melee drop

but ig you could kill Excelsus and just make Cosmic Discharge its melee

[pulsar cobalt]

he does

[urban cloak]

excelsus is the melee drop isnt it

or is that crafted

[mellow spade]

yes

Excelsus is melee drop

[pulsar cobalt]

not even

[mellow spade]

funny Metal Gear Rising reference #22874

[pulsar cobalt]

theres the obliterator

[mellow spade]

yeah but yo-yos practically don't exist in calamity

every single one is massively outclassed

either that or I'm using them wrong

but I've never used any of them even once

(except Microwave because funny mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm weapon)

[pulsar cobalt]

baffling statement

says they arent worth using
never used them

[mellow spade]

I mean I have made them

but every time I've tested them on a boss my other weapons just do so much more damage

I tried using the calamitas yo-yo on Plantera and just couldn't find myself doing any reasonable damage

[fathom girder]

As someone who did a yoyo only run

They're pretty solid

More need to be introduced however

[formal zealot]

will wulfrum acro pack ever be turned into a grappling hook slot item i find it cool to use but losing a whole accesory slot for it doesnt seem fun to me

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[mellow spade]

I love acro pack physics

[pulsar cobalt]

its getting changes tho

[mellow spade]

I wish more hooks had that

[lapis oak]

Just use Wacro

[mellow spade]

I've used it all the way up to WoF out of a desire to not go back to boring hook physics

[lapis oak]

Because it is made for that

[pulsar cobalt]

properly will conserve verticle momentum and will actually scale based on ur hook

[mellow spade]

no more acro pack flight 😔

[pulsar cobalt]

wdym by flight

[mellow spade]

if you jumped at the right time you could kind of stall in the air with acro pack

[dull heart]

that still happens kinda

it's not due to jumping though

It's due to re-hooking causing velocity resets or something

[drowsy reef]

Now I’m kinda wondering which weird Calamity features were Fabsol’s idea and which ones were from somebody else

Because saying “everything dumb is because of Fabsol and every good feature was from someone else on the team” would probably be wrong and reductive

[thick coyote]

defense damage and point blank are two i know off the top of my head

[drowsy reef]

I have mixed feelings on both of those features

Defense damage in practice often just ends up punishing inexperienced players for being inexperienced

Point blank makes sense for some ranged weapons but feels like a silly idea for most of them

[dense sundial]

This is indeed wrong

[dense sundial]

Point blank damage is entirely unnecessary because you naturally get such a bonus from the fact you’re not going to miss at that range. That’s how shotguns work. It also makes balance harder

[pulsar cobalt]

it also makes frost armours set bonus useless lmao

[drowsy reef]

True

[slate folio]

FUCKKK

MY RESPRITE

😭

[azure oak]

wha

[slate folio]

clock gatlignum got removed

[azure oak]

oh right

[thick coyote]

NAH

VANISHING POINT IS THE COOLEST SPEAR NAME EVER

WHAT THE FUCK

[fringe quiver]

rest in peace

[thick coyote]

oh is that rename not happening anymore?

[vivid hemlock]

it should

[lapis oak]

rip

it happens

[vivid hemlock]

its not getting removed i dont think

[lapis oak]

I think Cheese was talking about Clock Gatlignum resprite

[thick coyote]

oh ok

[vivid hemlock]

croc gun

[dusk bronze]

it is

[slate folio]

i need to resprite another thing

i know i have the fountain i already made

but i fear itll get resprited

[vivid hemlock]

I was talking about vanishing point.

[lapis oak]

Vanishing Point new name?

[thick coyote]

oh no

i confused everyone

my b

[drowsy reef]

Armor set changes are mostly cool and in a few cases desperately needed because why the hell is the Old One’s Army armor so ridiculously cracked

[thick coyote]

because no one does it

[drowsy reef]

True

[thick coyote]

pretty sure

less people do ooa

than fish

[fringe quiver]

i do both...

[dusk bronze]

i only do it bc completionism

[fringe quiver]

i think OOA is fun..

the tower defense playstyle makes it more interesting than most other events to me

[thick coyote]

i also do OOA

[arctic cliff]

i dont regularly do it unless im summoner

[thorny fjord]

The fact you can actually fail makes it more interesting yeah

[pulsar cobalt]

no idea lol

theyre like the only armour set that has the majority of its offensive stats in the actual pieces instead of the bonus

[lavish otter]

Aww, I thought the name "magmaggot" was actually kind of cool

[vivid hemlock]

Hey I think you forgot to remove the left-most leerslug

[azure oak]

raight

[lavish otter]

I think he meant the slugbun
Which is...also sad, but understandable since it's kind of an outlier with how basic it is

[azure oak]

nah i think it's the leftmost leerslug

[vivid hemlock]

we've only seen the animation for the right leerslug

[azure oak]

since yuh said to rename leerslug and kill the left one

[vivid hemlock]

unlike the others which came in batches

[dull heart]

ehh

not really

[lavish otter]

Ohhh I see! I was mostly basing that on this

[lapis oak]

it's both

[dull heart]

in practice it ends up

[lapis oak]

kill the basic slugbun

[dull heart]

stopping you from facetanking

[lavish otter]

It's kind of both

Like yeah, it stops you from face tanking, but it also punishes less experienced players by proxy

[dull heart]

yeah, but that's because it's easy for a less skilled player to rely on facetanking

not bc it just targets low skill players

[lavish otter]

Fair enough I suppose

Also, I wonder, is the purple baby ghostbell going to have a polyp form?

[late oxide]

I wanna see what the sprite is gonna look like for the biome

these guys make amazing art

[lapis oak]

no

those are for selling big money

I don't think you can catch Polyps

[lavish otter]

Makes enough sense, it's just kind of funny in that case! Because then that means there's the pink, green, and blue ones that have polyps and adult forms, the light blue/white one that only has a polyp, then the purple one with nothing

[lapis oak]

purple is a rare exclusive version of those

in Sunken Sea

basically gold critter

so Sunken Sea will have both rare gold and rare exclusive purple

[lavish otter]

Kind of makes me wonder what the light blue one's deal is actually, now that I think about it

[azure oak]

catch it to voltaic jelly

[lapis oak]

it's Voltaic Jelly ye

[lavish otter]

Oooohhhh-

For the longest time, I've been telling myself that the voltaic jelly one was the blue variant, I think because that's what the idea used to be

[lapis oak]

piss baby

[mystic eagle]

I really like the coloring on the big jellyfish

[vivid hemlock]

that one baby that i hate

[azure oak]

dia sprites do be like that

[lapis oak]

🪼 ❓

[vivid hemlock]

truth nuke

[fringe quiver]

that does make me wonder tho why is there a voltaic polyperil

if u cant catch it

[azure oak]

flavor

[fringe quiver]

fair point

[agile latch]

sentry

the polyper launchers

(and the voltaic baby was a polyp once..)

[dull heart]

confirmed that every single voltaic is dead by adulthood

[azure oak]

they get too voltaic and explode

[fringe quiver]

ohhh its for the staff

?

neat

[agile latch]

that is

a actual true thing

they are so overcharged their body dont resist it, and they die by childhood

(if you can say jellies have a childhood)

[pulsar cobalt]

lifehood

[fringe quiver]

jellyfish lifecycle is so wacky

they basically are babies twice before turning into adults

[pulsar cobalt]

wat if theyre actually always babies

cuz theyre stupid

and dumb

[vivid hemlock]

so you

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[dense sundial]

oh yeah will anything happen to sunken scourge

now that the generic scourge design is completely different

[valid crypt]

Probably

[fringe quiver]

yea

its being redesigned

[distant raft]

i imagine either resprite or rename

[modern grove]

looking back at sunken scourge it has some weird flow in its design

enormous head

[dull heart]

isn't that just like

either basically being an egg or a teenager

depending on what the babies twice is

[valid crypt]

Honestly i doubt it

[lavish otter]

I kind of want to edit together adult versions of the ones without them now

[dull heart]

adult gold jelly

[fringe quiver]

jellyfish first are eggs

then they're polyps

then those polyps mature

and then when they mature they return to being babies because they turn into actual jellyfish medusa

then those immature medusa turn into ACTUAL fully grown adult jellyfish

they're babies twice

😭

[lavish otter]

And isn't there a jellyfish that endlessly matures and re-polyps?

[dull heart]

yes

ok so basically

[arctic cliff]

i think its more like they straight up start turning into baby medusa factories

[fringe quiver]

in a way yeah

jellyfish r so wacky

odd organisms

[lapis oak]

Jellyfish invasion 😨

we gotta make more Jellyfish dishes

[pulsar cobalt]

ur a jellyfish

[fringe quiver]

nuh uh

[cunning sequoia]

ur a sea cucumber

[bold rivet]

#changelogs message wrt to number 674, when will Cultist summon Ancient Vision now?

[dusk bronze]

when you pick the wrong duplicate instead of every time

[lapis oak]

when you fails the ritual of course

[bold rivet]

Oh it used to always??

Man I just can't read patch notes

[lapis oak]

just like how vanilla did

[late oxide]

nuclear terror resprite makes me both happy and sad. Happy there is a re sprite, sad because I like the stick bug monster

[bold rivet]

This is Tumblr levels of chronic inability to read

[dusk bronze]

still nowhere near the average calamity player's illiteracy

[bold rivet]

True...

Can't believe the devs removed lunatic cultist it was my fave boss /j

[barren nacelle]

My lore explanation is that them being gold is some mineral over abundance in their food or in the water that kills em

[mystic eagle]

Illiterate Cultist

[dull heart]

i think they shed their gold as soon as they're too large to be bug netted

and the shed gold is where gold mimics come from

[late oxide]

also does anyone know why they are removing AI changes to vanilla bosses?

[lapis oak]

vanilla bosses on vanilla difficulties do not need AI changes

[vivid hemlock]

^

[mighty geyser]

the defabbening

[brave star]

Yea

No more fab

[bold rivet]

Changes to vanilla bosses on vanilla difficulties is a really weird idea now that I think about it

Like the difficulty toggle exists for a reason

[lapis oak]

we should cage vanilla bunnies too I think

[vivid hemlock]

too bad

[lapis oak]

they're too evil 😢

[vivid hemlock]

bunnies full of malice

[late oxide]

rip

[arctic cliff]

make gold mimics spawn in the sunken sea then ig

[indigo fog]

Strap gfb supernovas to the bunnies

[mystic eagle]

Strap whatever this is to the bunnies

[lavish otter]

The whole family's come together

[vivid hemlock]

the babies were censored

😢

[lavish otter]

They were minced into smoothies

[mystic eagle]

Now add a rainbow one

[lapis oak]

doesn't look piss enough

fake gold

[mystic eagle]

Perhaps it's because they're in the water

[lapis oak]

this Jellyfish was fed with Pyrite 😢

[vivid hemlock]

you were fed with pyrite

[lapis oak]

😭

[vivid hemlock]

surprise! 1 million neutron attack!

instantly appears in your bloodstream

[lavish otter]

Then the next thing you know, they're turning the frickin' jellies gay

[valid stag]

What a calamity

[restive wind]

I hope these aren’t the fished sprites, the tentacles are arranged really strangely, they should also probably be thicker, Mabey add some oral arms for detail on the bottom half of the sprites?

[valid stag]

Its thier mod lol

[restive wind]

I love the top part thought.

[still osprey]

They’re probably code-animated

[restive wind]

I know.

[still osprey]

It might look strange if they had further detail, I remember in another mod they had jellyfish animated through code and their tentacles were also one pixel wide

[restive wind]

With the current sprite the ghosts bell have better tentacles and oral arms, otherwise it wouldn’t be a jellyfish.

[lavish otter]

Of course they aren't...jellyfish aren't fish

[lapis oak]

it's finished

[restive wind]

Ok.

[lavish otter]

(I was going to say that as a joke at first, but as it turns out, they really aren't)

[restive wind]

It will probably look better in person anyway.

Right, the unfished jelly sprites.

[vivid hemlock]

they are animated through code

thats why theyre so thin

[restive wind]

So like procedural animation?

[lavish otter]

They're animated kind of like slimes are

[lapis oak]

tentacles are bigger ingame

[dull heart]

not necessarily procedural but

they bend and stuff thanks to code

[fathom girder]

lore accurate

[restive wind]

Cool, like the infernum mileage jellies?

Mirage*

[brave star]

Gay jelly. Where’s Trans jelly and lesbian jelly

[restive wind]

Maybe add them as a rare variant, with the flags as the color code.

[lavish otter]

Absorbed into the masses

[dense sundial]

I’m guessing verlet?

[dull heart]

Idk

[fathom girder]

verlet swing?

[kind tinsel]

YES ITS A VERLET

how do people not

recognise

[cobalt wharf]

what the fuck is a verlet

[dense sundial]

Rope sim

[kind tinsel]

ROPE SIMULATION

[dull heart]

I haven't seen the jellyfish code anim so

for all I know they stay perfectly straight

[kind tinsel]

VERLETS

[dull heart]

and just rotate

[fathom girder]

YES WE SEE THE FIT

[dull heart]

wacro pack uses verlet for its rope

[kind tinsel]

yes

VERLET

[valid crypt]

Pride jellies

[dull heart]

too bad verlet can't make my realistic spider legs I gave up on

[lapis oak]

code nerd thing

[cobalt wharf]

thanks for the reply pings shawties

[kind tinsel]

IK

[desert path]

john wulfrum spider legs would have been cool

[dull heart]

they would have been sick but so not worth the time

[lapis oak]

how the DS bag going

[dense sundial]

Are there alternative ideas for it

[lavish otter]

But perhaps, one slipped through the cracks...

[dull heart]

Time was much better spent on this

[dense sundial]

Because tbh I don’t really see the use of sand convert

[dull heart]

the bag itself mostly works

[dull heart]

it's mostly just a vacuum for common items

a slot for dirt, a slot for stone, etc

Sand convert is just a bonus thing

[lapis oak]

a lot of people would like to preserve their desert also

[dull heart]

yeah

Mining sand sucks

bc even deep down it changes the surface

[fathom girder]

terraria sand is like...

an analogy to the human soul, bro...

[dull heart]

but as for the bag

[cobalt wharf]

you do need a lot of glass

[dull heart]

The GUI is like... Exists

I don't love it but I also can't think of anything better

[fathom girder]

can we see it

[dull heart]

I still need to enable quick stacking from the contents to chests

[stiff light]

jellyfish be like: pronou

[fringe quiver]

it's very useful tbh

[dull heart]

Once I finish the GUI I need to set up the real cool feature

[fringe quiver]

most of the time i Lack sand to use in builds because the only real way i have of obtaining it is

destroying my worldgen

[dull heart]

Being able to place directly from the bag

[fringe quiver]

😭

[cobalt wharf]

the real way is duping with a sand gun and ammo conservation

[fringe quiver]

also yea the sand convert is just one of its uses

[dull heart]

Finally a use for the ammo box

[fringe quiver]

its a nice little bonus use that fits with its flavour and aesthethic

given yk

it drops from DS

[brave star]

This should actually be a real thing!

It’s so accurate

The shiny variants could be stronger and have more loot

[lavish otter]

Honestly, that could be cool if it was made real

[fringe quiver]

makes a gold variant for every single enemy

the floodgates have been opened

too late

[modern grove]

Collect my pronouns

[fringe quiver]

Collect my pages

[lapis oak]

gold amogus (zombie skin)

I'd say it's peak

[brave star]

Gold Scoog

[stiff light]

the gnawer

[brave star]

He hungy. Can I feeds him GOD DAMN baguette

[stiff light]

bagete

[lapis oak]

Basalt Gully creatura are very orang

wonder if other hidden one orang too

[trail oriole]

the baby versions look like condoms

getting triangle to kill these guys now

[stiff light]

lmao

[lapis oak]

killing fetus

[vivid hemlock]

shouldve stuck to the first version

smh my head

[trail oriole]

@agile latch

[brave star]

Those are the pets

[trail oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/mahoraga-makora-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-15349122341911766662

kill them

[brave star]

The real baby ones are more round

[trail oriole]

im sure ive said this beforebtw

[stiff light]

pet condom

[lapis oak]

witnessing public execution in my spoiler talk

[pulsar cobalt]

bro what

[brave star]

OUR

[stiff light]

my :3

[brave star]

Transhark

[stiff light]

transbian

[brave star]

Actually peak

[stiff light]

yepp

t4t 😍

a

[brave star]

Get both trans and lesbian at the same time, and it spells AWESOMENESS

[hasty tangle]

team 4tress two?

[stiff light]

trans and gay,,,,

tray,,,

[brave star]

Tray full of mashed potatoes

[stiff light]

transmen fuming

[brave star]

(Am at the lunch cafeteria for this)

[stiff light]

we need more transmen in the cal community

i only know one

[lavish otter]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they were changed personally, they've felt disconnected from the adult versions ever since the old adult sprites were scrapped

[latent portal]

lmao

[brave star]

What about the old adult Ghost Jellyfish

Can they exist?

[stiff light]

what about

old duke jellyfish

[dull heart]

Jellyfishron

[brave star]

Tf is an old duke jellyfish

[pearl sentinel]

the family is fighting again.

[stiff light]

like the fish

but jelly

but also the duke

and old

:3

[brave star]

Facts tho ngl

[latent portal]

what tf happened

[vivid hemlock]

No.

[lavish otter]

Technically they can, but in game, they won't because they're usually hunted down before they can become adults

[stiff light]

thats meow

[brave star]

So why do the teenage (old adult) ghost JF get hunted down easily

Are they not strong enough?

[vivid hemlock]

no theyre easier to spot

[stiff light]

juke fishron

[brave star]

So when they are adults as in the new ones, are they able to defend themselves more

[brave star]

Juke Bishron

[stiff light]

bluh

[brave star]

Duke Fox

[stiff light]

what typa name is fishron

like wtf is a fishron

[brave star]

Dragon and fish probably

[agile latch]

Condom jellies ye

[stiff light]

quadrangle

no,,,,

[brave star]

Pentangle

[agile latch]

The condom jellies are funny..

(Its the pet btw)

[brave star]

[trail oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-what-now-annoyed-harry-potter-dumbledore-gif-5381156

[stiff light]

fair tbh

they are funny

[agile latch]

I can uncondom them tho

[brave star]

Calamity does need le funni

[lapis oak]

woke up from a coma

[stiff light]

💔 the calamity uncondomfication

[lapis oak]

hello Tringle today is August 11th

[vivid hemlock]

go back to the coma

[brave star]

NŒH

[lapis oak]

1 day before th he-

[brave star]

Removes comas with mind

[vivid hemlock]

😁

[stiff light]

my fucking comas

[brave star]

Now people get to sleep normally instead of pass out too long

This is a litter spoiler

[stiff light]

what is this ting

little creature

[flat vine]

a football

[stiff light]

very pliable

[lapis oak]

that's a toy

[brave star]

Such a skrunkly

[stiff light]

scrublo

[shell sapphire]

Sea dragon

[dusty tinsel]

Is that one of those things that grows in water

[mystic eagle]

Idk what that user is using but I don't think it's very practical

[celest bobcat]

gatr…

[amber furnace]

hello team ravager rework tomorrow

[hard copper]

youre not supposed to leak the dumpster sprite!111!!

[dusk bronze]

it's already public

[vivid hemlock]

i mean, yeah

[dull heart]

GUYS

I just realized

it's Friday not Saturday

I thought it was Saturday literally all day today

[mystic eagle]

It's saturday here now

[dull heart]

L

[hard copper]

damn, living in the future, is SSO out yet?

[lapis oak]

L people in the past

[grave geyser]

shadowdropping sso would be really funny ngl

[pulsar cobalt]

yea its today (tomorrow for u)

[brave star]

That’s not dumpster

It’s litter

[lilac needle]

curious if there is any plant ot do about summon penalty

for hybrid classes

or is it balanced as is

[dusk bronze]

plant ot do??

[lapis oak]

bad English

they were asking about if there is any plans for summoner penalty when using other classes to be changed

[late eagle]

Noooooo

Keep the condom guys

[lilac needle]

plans to do about summon penalty

is it here to stay

[dusk bronze]

idk

[dull heart]

hi

[dull heart]

very likely

[candid mist]

[hasty hawk]

likely to encourage using whips instead of whatever else

also thank fuck Crab came with a better idea for Forbidden Circlet

far better than “you can stealth strike with whips”

[heavy glen]

What the hell is a foveanator

[hasty hawk]

triplet

[heavy glen]

and why is it lost

[heavy glen]

Twins?

[pulsar cobalt]

not happening

yes

[hasty hawk]

Fab’s idea for an already cluttered fight

[dull heart]

forbidden circlet leak ooh spooky

[hasty hawk]

Master rev was dogwater

[hasty hawk]

Crab’s idea is on the summoner thread and is far better for class mixing which we want for that set

[heavy glen]

Honestly that sounds weird for a twins fight

Imagine fighting 3 eyes

[buoyant pulsar]

i love byleth <3

[hasty hawk]

Twins
looks inside
Triplets

[dull heart]

i've already coded it

it's not just an idea

[hasty hawk]

[dull heart]

either way it's his donor item so shrug emoji

[buoyant pulsar]

ADD A CELESTIAL CUFFS UPGRADE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[hasty hawk]

Saturday 12:00 pm

Shade becomes freed from the shackles of chemical engineering classes (for a while)

[pulsar cobalt]

sunday

[dull heart]

i actually have an idea for it

[hasty hawk]

Teammate did the sunday report so free earlier

[north island]

And will there be new AI for the master death mode or will it stay as it was before Bountiful Harvest?

[hasty hawk]

b4

[latent portal]

YES

PLEASE

[cobalt wharf]

im looking into the universe where foveantor releases and its an invincible retinazer that shoots a pink laser once every 10 seconds

[latent portal]

do it and my soul is yours

[fathom girder]

Idea guy but he can actually code

[latent portal]

[fathom girder]

Very scary

[latent portal]

lmao

[heavy glen]

Would it involve magiluminesence

[fringe quiver]

me

[heavy glen]

[fringe quiver]

im jane ideas but can actually code

[fathom girder]

What have you made, anyway

Idk what you've done but you have the cool guys thing

[fringe quiver]

my only contributions to calamity mod are tagging one of the moderators and telling him he smells

@cunning sequoia you smell

[fathom girder]

But what else have you done...

How are is cool guy...

[fringe quiver]

its because i used to be a mod

[pulsar cobalt]

@cunning sequoia idk if uve heard but u smell. a lot

[fathom girder]

oe

[fringe quiver]

i havent touched tmod codding
ive thought about it before but everytime i consider it i remember the docummentation really sucks and while i could definitely look at other sources i just don't really feel like it

[dull heart]

no

[heavy glen]

[dull heart]

i like how I got 3 pings about "i have an idea for a celestial cuff upgrade"

[heavy glen]

they will never touch magiluminesence

[dull heart]

but 0 on the forbidden circlet thing

[pulsar cobalt]

good

[fringe quiver]

plus making games is probably more fun than making mods for games anyways i think

more freedom and all that

[lyric trellis]

Would’ve been great to see how people reacted to it tbh

[fringe quiver]

probably subjective though

[heavy glen]

to be fair it is op as is

And its only used in early game

[lapis oak]

Forbidden Circlet got reworked?

sweet

[fringe quiver]

i have no idea what forbidden circlet does besides the fact its meant to be a hybrid summoner and rogue thing

what does it even do again

[lapis oak]

Crab's Donor item 😨

[pulsar cobalt]

its exactly that

[fathom girder]

Hybrid summoner and rogue armor

Hardmode armor set that never sees use

[pulsar cobalt]

its just forbidden but it allows u to use rogue instead of mage

[fathom girder]

Crazy!

[fringe quiver]

yea but like wut buffs does it bring to the table

what fancy knicknacks does it allow you to use

[pulsar cobalt]

i just said its the same

😭

[fringe quiver]

okay so its just a damage buff

[pulsar cobalt]

the tornado

[pulsar cobalt]

💥

[fringe quiver]

like it just does % rogue damage buff

wow +

5% rogue damgae

or whatevr

[cobalt wharf]

rogue weapons release vanilla eater projectile or something

[pulsar cobalt]

the set ability

[fringe quiver]

i can see why its reworked then yea thats pretty lame

[pulsar cobalt]

it has the same set ability except it uses rogue instead of mage

[fringe quiver]

i mean it Works i guess it's just kind of lame and i feel like for such a niche combination as rogue and summoner you'd need more than just a small damage bonus to really Function

[cobalt wharf]

i have never seen this in my life

[fathom girder]

Stealth strikes deploy a tornado

[fringe quiver]

man tsuki

you couldve just said this

are you stupid

[dull heart]

no it's not just forbidden mage

even currently

Mage kills the summon penalty

[cobalt wharf]

it also only gives one defense, because mage is tankier than rogue apparently

[dull heart]

Rogue doesn't, but Rogue weapons can get summon dmg

and summon can get Rogue dmg? but this might be bugged

stealth strikes also spawn an eater

[dense sundial]

no it wouldn't because that would mean foveanator would be real

[dull heart]

and the tornado is different but similar

[cobalt wharf]

21 defense on a hardmode armor is BAD

[fathom girder]

(1) eater

[dull heart]

anyway the new concept is cool

[pulsar cobalt]

thats not how it works

[fathom girder]

Wuz da new concept

[pulsar cobalt]

it summons homing projectiles on ss not tornado

[dull heart]

idk what the policy is on donor items so i won't say

[fathom girder]

Fair

[pulsar cobalt]

tornado is activated the same way

[dull heart]

ask crab if you wantt

[lyric trellis]

Just remove it a few days later

[fathom girder]

Does fovenator even relate to an eye disease

[urban cloak]

first ever limited time terraria mod feature

[fathom girder]

Fomo

[pulsar cobalt]

uhh future bosses??

[lyric trellis]

Opposite of fomo

[urban cloak]

tsuki you know what i mean

[pulsar cobalt]

no i really dont cuz it just sounds like theyre just removed in a later update thats in a short timeframe of when theyre initially added

which is

just future bosses lol

[fathom girder]

[ LIMITED EVENT! ]
A Calamity has struck the mechanical trio, and they all have new powers! Conquer them and gain new weapons, accessories and materials to create powerful new tools!
(Ends in 4h)

[lapis oak]

introduced and removed category

Nychthemeron finally has competition

[lyric trellis]

So funny how they only lasted a month

[pulsar cobalt]

calamity battle pass

[lilac needle]

i mean isnt whatever else just the classless weapons.... even then we have ichor

[fathom girder]

Calamitous coins

[lyric trellis]

Record for the realization that “this sucks ass, remove it”

[urban cloak]

calamity ltms

[lilac needle]

btw....

does old one army armor

[pulsar cobalt]

classless isnt affected by summoner penalty

[lilac needle]

give summoner penalty

[hasty hawk]

correction:
encourage whips, active summons, sentries, classless weapons instead of weapons from other classes

[lilac needle]

why does old one army armor have it

but smth like forbidden and fearmonger dont

[hasty hawk]

yes, we plan to see how to remove it without turning those armors into literal TOP 1 armors

[lilac needle]

they were never top 1 even in vanilla and even then the changes made to them made hybrid worse

idt they were ever top 1

[dull heart]

uh

no

[hasty hawk]

Fearmonger has it reduced iirc

[dull heart]

forbidden mage is insane

[fathom girder]

Valhalla armor is crazy

[dull heart]

fearmonger is like

actually potentially top 1

[lilac needle]

no

fearmonger has no summon penalty

[hasty hawk]

Cal Summoner is x5 stronger than vanilla

[dense sundial]

multiplicative whip tag

[lilac needle]

what about rogue

[hasty hawk]

even flat is insane on some summons

[pulsar cobalt]

dark artist casually being on par with other sets without considering summoner is

wild

[dense sundial]

and initially balancing around lack of whips but i don't see people talking about the former

[hasty hawk]

rogue forbidden is actual dogshit atm

[dull heart]

that one both doesn't remove the penalty and is horrific

but it used to be boss rush viable

it got gutted

[lilac needle]

forbidden summoner?

rogue*

[dull heart]

yeah

[lilac needle]

really...

[hasty hawk]

yes, spawned projectiles that dealt % dmg of the main projectile

[lyric trellis]

Got a bit busy

[dull heart]

and

minions got rogue stealth dmg i think

at one point

[hasty hawk]

died when the dmg was capped

[latent portal]

that's so busted

[lilac needle]

idk it doesnt mention it on the patch notes

2.0.3.005: Now procs stealth strike projectile effects on the first 3 hits of a projectile instead of the first 5.
2.0.3.001: Fixed set bonus eaters scaling twice with summon damage.
1.5.1.001: Moved Adamantite Bar to the top of the recipe.
1.5.0.001:
Minion slot boost has been moved to the set bonus.
Nerfed set bonus projectile base damage from 75 to 40.
1.4.5.001: Set bonus no longer grants minions the ability to deal full damage. Nerfed max rogue stealth from 100 to 40. Increased mana cost of the Ancient Storm by 10.

i feel 2.0.3 is what im looking at

[hasty hawk]

the 1.4.5 nerf was heavy too

[lilac needle]

this doesnt seem like smth that would make it boss rush viable

esp with how progression was in the day

[lilac needle]

im aware... but even then it feels the hybrid armors should have it...

forbidden mage is idk...

u dont hear about it

ive never seen someone act genuinly use forbidden rogue

[hasty hawk]

probably a version far earlier than 1.4.5

[lilac needle]

then it isnt documented

1.4.4.004: Introduced.

[dull heart]

forbidden mage is very good

[lilac needle]

as a mage armor or as a hyrbid armor?

[dull heart]

people just don't use alternative armors much in general

hybrid

but lik

mage build with just add minons

and it's already the best set for that stage of the game easily

[lilac needle]

what about old ones armor

tier 2

[dull heart]

doesn't kill penalty

but those are arguably the best armors besides forbidden mage around there

especially once you get post 3 mechs with the uh

cryogenic staff

[cobalt wharf]

can we make circlet not kill your hair this looks not good

[lyric trellis]

No, go bald

[glass path]

Are rev+ master changes getting removed or only regular master?

[summer shore]

Regular master

[hasty hawk]

both

[lilac needle]

btw what is the plan with regular master

maybe some bosses felt rough to play against or unfair but i feel regular master isnt a good mode at all

or rev master and beyond

[dull heart]

leave it like vanilla, just stat bloat

[dull heart]

no, rev+ master (aka death) is having AI changes

just some of the really bad fabsol ones are dying

[fringe quiver]

master just wont get calamity changes

:thumby:

[latent portal]

like which ones specifically if I may ask

[dull heart]

I mean

two prime heads and fovenator are gone

As changelogs mentioned

Idk what else specifically

[latent portal]

honestly i though those were interesting , but maybe with some other changes instead of being just another target with the same ai during the fight

[lilac needle]

wait so rev master aka the boss changes are staying?

at least the ones deemed fair

[lilac needle]

curious why 2 skele prime head was deemed unfair / worthy to remove

[glass path]

Have you not seen it?

[lilac needle]

ive played against it

didnt seem that bad

but i struggle on some weird shit

[glass path]

There is no world where summoning the other mechs is a good idea

[lilac needle]

malice brimstone gave me a lot of shit i think while smth like cal clone was much eaiser / smoother

[glass path]

Like that is gfb type shit

[lilac needle]

i mean it sounds interesting but i mean more so why specifically

as in why doesnt it work

[latent portal]

oh yeah that was shit

[lilac needle]

is it that it makes it unfair to fight?

[glass path]

Projectile spam

[latent portal]

it wasn't fun it was just summoning another boss during the fight, that wasn't interesting neither unique, it was just projectile spam

[glass path]

They just exist just for nostalgia boner

[cobalt wharf]

it’s not like they had a reduced ai speed or anything

it was literally just he spawns two bosses in the middle of the fight and you have to kill yhem

[lilac needle]

i mean they despawned at 85%

i think?

[arctic cliff]

It doesn’t even work because oblivion the inspiration for master rev sprime was literally that mods final boss

[cobalt wharf]

and there are no adjustments made other than the health is kinda reduced

[latent portal]

yeah that's unfair, sometimes it was even easier just to skip prime to get better gear and come back

[arctic cliff]

so it’s well past the mech bosses in progression

[latent portal]

i'm pretty sure they last more

[lilac needle]

so its just unworkable cuz its not balanced around it