calamity-update-talk

[twin juniper]

Old Duke will now be replaced with invincible catfish

[true oriole]

Wielder of the Ogscule Crown

[steep path]

it's funny cuz I think duke fishron is one of the best bosses in vanilla
But I'm totally down to get something fresh and better - recolored duke wasn't very exciting

[final pine]

plus we already have a knockoff duke fishron in yharon

[steep path]

Real

[dusk bronze]

unique ai gif

[twin juniper]

Old Duke turning into banished baron

[kind maple]

I mean Yharon feels more original than Old Duke

[dusk bronze]

baron of the strait

[dusk bronze]

gee i wonder why

[amber furnace]

what would make it good then? being super flashy with high resolution projectiles? being bigger? a boss doesn't need all that to be good

[steep path]

banished baron (if I'm thinking of the right boss) has lasers and nukes and therefore is Cool

[final pine]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/zDfn51Krsv1Ckaix83rQUYkDbWVdy9FQtI7mCrxEgoo/https/media.tenor.com/hZvFBi54dHAAAAPo/unique-ai.mp4

man

[final pine]

banished baron takes like nothing from duke besides charging at you

[dusk bronze]

ha

[steep path]

I just love the sentry weapon it drops. My favorite weapon in fargos so far (I haven't gotten past like early mid hardmode my friend and I have been procrastinating)

[valid crypt]

Not just be a boss but we threw it into the sewer
The scrapped resprite was a better execution of thing but old since it was so old stuff evolved away from its look

[plush carbon]

Acidsighter mentioned

another CCR W

[final pine]

deadass cannot tell if this is bait or not but a reskinned and tankier version of a boss made to be a quick and fast paced fight is not fun at all

[steep path]

fandom wiki lowkey gets Ws now and then
pyrogen was a big W

[final pine]

kulu yharon ku's page made me laugh

[plush carbon]

Kulu Yharon Ku made me HOWL

maybe its not that funny but it got me good

[amber furnace]

I like both the current and the scrapped sprite

[valid crypt]

Ok

[amber furnace]

I genuinely find his current state good but there's definitely a lot of room for improvement

[final pine]

it is fine to like something but saying it's fine as is is just straight up wrong

[steep path]

my honest take is I don't think old duke was too horrible - I liked the predictive dashes and stamina mechanic. compared to some of the more obnoxious bosses in this mod, old duke fared pretty well

now with all that said I'm cool with the replacement concept we've been hearing about. from what I've heard devs mention, they're interested in keeping stamina and predictive dashes in the new boss if possible - so I'm looking forward to see what we get from this

[spark kiln]

predictive dashes are really fun

[final pine]

i just find it annoying that in a mod plagued already by bad boss design we have a post ml reskin of a previous boss

[amber furnace]

true

[final pine]

eternity old duke is the only good version of the fight and i will die on this hill

[amber furnace]

what's eternity

[final pine]

fargo's

there's a crossmod mod

[amber furnace]

dang what

[valid crypt]

Imo old dukes boss design is shit
The sprite quality is fine

[valid crypt]

Fargos calamity dlc

[dry whale]

I have yet to see that

[amber furnace]

I didn't know that

[valid crypt]

Been out for quite a while
Not complete tho

[final pine]

the sprite quality is good i agree, just the monopalette is

eh

[final pine]

i won't spoil then

but it's good

[valid crypt]

Monopallete is a thing calamity does a weirdly high amount

[final pine]

it is yeah

[dry whale]

I am still at skeleprime in my masodeath run

[valid crypt]

Skip to plantera!

[dry whale]

hell nah

[lilac tundra]

Can i skip anihita or nah?

[dry whale]

literally polter (blue plant)

[steep path]

If nothing else I'm happy that calamity vanities will probably keep references to old duke - I like how that mod acts as a sort of archive for old boss stuff

[final pine]

eternity/maso twins is some of the most fun i've had in terraria

why are twins reworks always good

[steep path]

Drives me crazy in astral in particular. Pretty biome except you get sick of looking at it for too long lol

[dry whale]

masodeath twins watching in horror as I pull out my glorious end

[valid crypt]

Cause the twins themself is also good in vanilla

[final pine]

this is also true

then again prime's pretty fun

destroyer sucks though

[dry whale]

destroyer got slaggsplitter pauldron'd

[valid crypt]

Destroyer try not to get melted in vanilla challange

[dry whale]

in my run

[final pine]

destroyer either gets melted in seconds or is a pain in the ass

there is no in between

[valid crypt]

Yeah

[vestal osprey]

Destroyer is either getting melted or is a massive damage sponge

[dry whale]

maso destroyer pulling a sans aah attack at the end

[final pine]

eternity destroyer is cool

i don't really like the contact damage considering the emphasis on dodging the balls

and lasers

[vestal osprey]

It was the weakest mech in infernum

[dry whale]

disagree

[final pine]

hard disagree

[dry whale]

inf destroyer is easy but skele prime is there

[final pine]

prime

is

yeah

[vestal osprey]

I mean weakest as in quality

[final pine]

i know

[dry whale]

still disagree

skele prime

is there

[final pine]

infernum destroyer actually did something different with the boss

[azure oak]

how spoilerous

[dry whale]

I mean skele prime is not bad

just okay

[amber furnace]

ravager rework tomorrow

[final pine]

skele prime is still good but not as good as destroyer and definitely not twins

[dry whale]

shit this isnt cat?

okay bye

[final pine]

meopw

[vestal osprey]

I think we can all agree the twins the by far the best in infernum

[valid crypt]

Oh lol

[final pine]

whoopsie daist6

[valid crypt]

Used plantera gear on them so i cant say

[final pine]

anyways where do i annoy devs for patreon server

[valid crypt]

Mod mail i think

[dusk bronze]

you have to link your discord to patreon

[final pine]

i did

[dusk bronze]

and a bot should automatically dm you the invite

[final pine]

i have server member dms off

[dusk bronze]

byeah contact modmail if ur having issues

[final pine]

that's why

i thin

[vivid hemlock]

just ask modmail for an invite if the bot doesnt work (thats what i did)

[dusk bronze]

modmail just helped me through linking the accounts

they didn't give me an invite directly

[azure oak]

caalm ity

[thick coyote]

you know

unless the lore changes

i kinda feel like the new desert scourge (as well as the currnet one) dont really fit the lore

they dont look like filter feeders

[valid crypt]

Desert scourge isnt a filter feeder iirc

Aquatic scourge is the filter feeder

Theyre different soecies

[thick coyote]

lore doc says it was

[fringe quiver]

lore doc is dumb and stupid

[vivid hemlock]

why is ds a filter feeder

[fringe quiver]

its not 💔

it eats MEAT its a PREDATOR it HUNTS THINGS

[valid crypt]

Why are either a filter feeder

[vivid hemlock]

aqua scoog makes sense

but

desert scourge?????

[thick coyote]

im just saying even if da adapted to eating bigger creatures

[fringe quiver]

it didnt adapt

[vivid hemlock]

next thing youre going to tell me is that sunken scourge is a filter feeder 💔

[thick coyote]

that wouldnt change the way its mouth should look

[fringe quiver]

it always hunted bigger things

[still bluff]

Desert scourge actually just uses those big ass jaws to eat lots of sand

[thick coyote]

no it didnt!

[still bluff]

It's filter feeding is within its stomach

[fringe quiver]

yes it did the lore doc is outdated and old and ahsn't been updated in 500 years

[thick coyote]

the lore says desert scourge used to eat microscopic things

thats not even lore doc exclusive

[gloomy grove]

lore doc should be blown up to smithereens i think

[fringe quiver]

the only source of that is yharim who notably is not good at biology given that they thought storm weaver was the same species as the devourer and if i had to guess it might get rewritten

[thick coyote]

but it has like

meat cutting teeth

[fringe quiver]

desert scourge is not a filter feeder

[thick coyote]

which is weird

[still bluff]

Yea that's for rocks

[fringe quiver]

yes it has big meat cutting teeth becasue it eats meat

[still bluff]

Don't worry cheese I will always undermine you with ridiculous misinformation

[valid crypt]

Ive never seen anyone mention scoog as a filterer until today

[fringe quiver]

the singular yharim lore item

[valid crypt]

Banning you

[valid crypt]

The singular bad at biology so i ignore the guy

[thick coyote]

i mean go read the item

it says it

[fringe quiver]

which was not only one of the first things ever written for the mod and probably outdated at this point

but also

yharim literally has been shown to be bad at biology before

[thick coyote]

the lore itens got rewritten

[valid crypt]

Lore items from yharim the guy who sucks at biology

[fringe quiver]

he thought storm weaver was the same species as devourer

which, it sint

[fringe quiver]

i'm aware, the lore items were one of the first things written for the rewrite

they're still outdated, atleast a good few of them

[thick coyote]

just feels like a stupid detail for them to make him wrong about

[summer shore]

I mean didn't they say they won't be completely rewtitten again

[still bluff]

(we do need to actually see any of this stuff written out in-game for it to finally be real instead of just plans)

[fringe quiver]

because its outdated

[fringe quiver]

Not completely no

Just a few lore items might be changed

[summer shore]

I really just said rewtitten

[fringe quiver]

empress of light is one of the most likely ones

[summer shore]

I'm so washed

[still bluff]

But yes DS is very clearly designed to eat giant rocks and break them apart for the juices inside smh

[fringe quiver]

sends u to hell

[vivid hemlock]

buffs snapthorn

[fringe quiver]

nerfs snapthorn

[thick coyote]

i mean inscisors still dont make sense for that

[fringe quiver]

its a durophage

[thick coyote]

it should have like huge molars

if that's the case

[still bluff]

They're to stab into the rocks and check them for juices

The molars are further back

[fringe quiver]

im sending you to hell

9th layer

[still bluff]

You have no in-game evidence that I'm wrong

[fringe quiver]

You have no way of stopping my fists reaching ur face

👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊 👊

[still bluff]

Wtf

[thick coyote]

also to be clear i dont even care, i just thought it was interesting because the old desert scourge ironically looked more like a filter feeder than current ones

[vivid hemlock]

i mean yeah

[fringe quiver]

i dont think any of them looked like filter feeders

[vivid hemlock]

it was written when brown ds was still ingame

[fringe quiver]

they all had big ass teeth

[thick coyote]

i dont think old ds had teeth

[fringe quiver]

bird scourge in particular really didn't look like a filter feeder

i can kinda see it for brown DS

[vivid hemlock]

hate

[fringe quiver]

im attached to this one d ont hate him

hes goofy

he sucks objectively speaking but im attached

[dry whale]

bast statue gives protection to said fists

[fringe quiver]

pre 2025 desertscourge designs dont just be a incredibly uninspired and generic sandworm challenge

[vivid hemlock]

i just realized

blue scourge is just

red scourge but with mandibles

[fringe quiver]

you know its kinda funny that like

red scourge tried harder to make it look aquatic than most designs that came after

and that's like a incredibly low bar

because all it does is have little tail fins

it's pretty sad in hindsight

[pulsar cobalt]

was sunken sea even a thing back when red scourge existed

[vivid hemlock]

no

[thick coyote]

pretty sure red scourge was 1.0

[pulsar cobalt]

it existed until 1.1.5

[thick coyote]

ye

but i mean when it was added

[pulsar cobalt]

map icon was still red scourge for another update tho

so lol

[vivid hemlock]

sunken sea was 1.4.2

[fringe quiver]

sunken sea wasnt a thing but im pretty sure the lore of DS being a water guy that had its home dried up had been a thing since its initial conception

[thick coyote]

that would make sense

[fringe quiver]

which again makes it pretty sad that literally none of its designs tried in any way to reflect that

😭

[thick coyote]

wdym!!!

blue scourge is blue!!

like water!!!

[fringe quiver]

true................

[cunning sequoia]

wdym things turn into sand when exposed to the desert long enough

[vivid hemlock]

🥀

[cunning sequoia]

thats how it works

[vivid hemlock]

i love my abyss rock golems

[fringe quiver]

waiter waiter

more creatures that look like they're made out of the material their biome is made of for some reason

[vivid hemlock]

garbo

[thick coyote]

mods, add an electron

[fringe quiver]

is it a leak

or is it like one of those scam links

unfortunate

[lean relic]

this one

[fringe quiver]

i see

tragic

yeah alright its the fucking mr beast scam

😭

mr breast

givme em money mr breast

[vivid hemlock]

curious how the abyss worldgen rework's gonna look

since its wider than the current abyss

also a terminus shrine

[fringe quiver]

i hope it's a little less.,,, linear?

like, i get that its meant to be a trench and all

but its a tad boring to just

fall down

[pulsar cobalt]

u only rlly fall down in layer 4

[vivid hemlock]

it feels less like a trench and more like a cave

also trenches tend to slope down, and theres kinda like, none of that

[thick coyote]

i dont think theres room in the world for that

[dusty tinsel]

Extra large world size

[pearl sentinel]

abyss subworld clearly

[azure oak]

add

the subworld subworld

[summer shore]

subsubworld

a subworld within a subworld

[pearl sentinel]

what about a domworld

[terse dew]

Maybe the sunken sea is the ocean that sits below the beach that makes you old

[fringe quiver]

ive been there

[pearl sentinel]

i dont think its the beach

im pretty sure its the rocks

[terse dew]

sand is just tiny rocks

🙂‍↕️

[azure oak]

beach that makes you old subworld

[modern grove]

Instructions unclear; I summoned a titan

[summer shore]

How

You crazy

[desert path]

I mean real life fish tend to blend into their environment, flounder and catfish actually are great examples

[modern grove]

Yeah but I really doubt it's the reason why all those cal enemies are sprited like that

[desert path]

Yeah I know that but I kinda like that all the sulphurous sea enemies look like they could hide in the sand and rocks

[modern grove]

They can still look more visually interesting wobbegongs irl also hide in sand and try to blend with it, but they don't literally look like sand

[desert path]

That depends on which kind though

tasselled wobbegongs absolutely blend very well with the sandy floor

[summer shore]

Fish and squid and stuff that live in corals don't look like sand

they look like coral

they can still blend with the environment without looking like Just the Base Block

[fringe quiver]

what throu said

you can make something camo while still making it visually interesting

and yeah that definitely wasn't the reasoning behind it

[dense sundial]

great example: octopuses

[fringe quiver]

specially when you consider that most of the monopaletted enemies aren't meant to camouflage, like, at all

[dense sundial]

they rarely actually have camo for one specific environment, they just become camo whenever they want

[summer shore]

The only vaguely camo critter is flak crab

[modern grove]

In general I think that biome blending type creatures are a bit boring as enemies in terraria/terraria mod. Like yeah, creatures irl do that sometime, but they still have pretty cool appearance and not always use the same colors as their environment, they can still vary.

I #nooticed that when people come up with concepts for biome enemies, they often go for "mimick/blending with environment/monopalette rock golem" first (it's very evident with calamity critter contest that happened a while ago)

I think it's just not super original and can be better

[thorny fjord]

octopi

[summer shore]

Nuh uh

Octopodes

[cunning sequoia]

octo pie

[summer shore]

Spie

[tropic sphinx]

I think a good remedy for this would be to mimick/imitate a biome's theme rather than it's physical traits or colors

I think a really good example of this is with RoR2 and how it uses it's enemy variety. Something like a Greater Wisp doesn't really fit, say, the Abyssal Depths visually, but from a theme and tone view it matches perfectly

[vivid hemlock]

i mean, thats basically the plan the devs are taking

[tropic sphinx]

It's a biome drenched in a blazing heat with lots of chains and monoliths and whatnot, so it'd make sense that an artificial lifeform such as a Greater Wisp would inhabit it

[boreal edge]

@mighty geyser pie

[brave star]

Turns octolinggrimm into pie with MIND

🥧

[pearl sentinel]

its a wonder ful day for pie

the HUH???

[dull heart]

I have bad mews

[pearl sentinel]

ohh i se

i see

i understand now

fucked up but awesome

[dull heart]

oh not to you

just in general I have bad news

I didn't even see what you were talking about

[sudden shell]

wawa, what's the next major update?

I see there's a minor update scheduled soon from the changelog

[fringe quiver]

did ppl unironically read the two tiny dots as eyes

insanity

absolute lunacy

[thick coyote]

what tiny dots?

[thick coyote]

what? theres nothing indicating that on the changelogs

[fringe quiver]

.

the diminute white dots on the nuclear terror redesign

that people somehow thought were eyes???

1 pixel eyes is crazy 😭 😭

[thick spire]

Damn we’re not deleting Old Duke?

[thick coyote]

You're not?

[thick spire]

I’d delete him in a heartbeat

[fringe quiver]

he's getitng ship of theseus'd

very very technically not being deleted but its like a whole other thing so

[vivid hemlock]

fish of theseus

[thick spire]

Oh good

[fringe quiver]

mostly just the lore of old duke that seems to be adapted i think, because his lore is unironically very cool and fits nicely in the mods narrative

so "new" old duke seems like its just doubling down on that

pig death

[thick coyote]

I hope that whatever replaces Old Duke

[fringe quiver]

no more boar

[thick coyote]

can make the Polterghast defeat condition of acid rain tier 3 make sense

because that doesnt make any sense to me

[vivid hemlock]

old duke wont be at the end of the acid rain anymore

[fringe quiver]

yea

nuclear terror will

[vivid hemlock]

terror is taking its rightful place

[fringe quiver]

old duke is just a seaprate boss

[modern grove]

Let's replace old duke with new duke

He wears sunglasses and listens to cool music

[thick coyote]

Duke Jr

[fringe quiver]

he says how do you do fellow kids

[cunning sequoia]

it took like 5 years but nuclear terror is usurping the duke ripoff

🎉

[vivid hemlock]

🙏

[agile latch]

He isnt

He filter and collect sand though and store it in a special organ to use later

But he dont filter feed

[uncut briar]

please just call it the recolored dune splicer

i dont think i can take much more of people calling it red scourge

[uncut briar]

not for eating ig?

[mighty geyser]

WTFF

[vivid hemlock]

thank god

[pearl sentinel]

what is it

[rocky dawn]

Idea would slap as part of drunk seed

[modern grove]

Drunk fishron

Instead of doing predictive dashes he does unpredictable dashes and bumps into random spots

Instead of getting tired he can hit his head against tiles which would knock him out

[brave star]

Octopie would make a neat dinner pie

[fringe quiver]

look

"red scourge" is less wordy than "recoloured dune splicer"

dont hate me for being EFFICIENT

though ye a thats literally what it is

[modern grove]

Is that really so

I don't think there was much though there he was just a desert worm

Dokuro music wasn't real yet nor lore not anything

[fringe quiver]

No i'm pretty sure there was already lore

Very crude and primitive lore that was mostly just written by fabsol but it existed

If you go all the way back to the calamity forums you can see that some characters where a thing all the way back then

Braelor Existing predates almost all of the mod's history

😭

[rustic fulcrum]

How dare you

[viral merlin]

Master Mode Revengeance was truly Malice mode all along

It found it's way back into the game

Go my random bullshit all over the screen

[azure oak]

add the pit

[rough vine]

⚫

[lapis oak]

Ooo the spoilering

[late eagle]

Desert

[kind maple]

Seems pretty scummy

[azure oak]

huh

[lapis oak]

Become Mr Breast for free

[hushed hazel]

give me money

[valid crypt]

-300 doler coming to you

[raw pendant]

Is this old duke??

If so thats a really cool reimagining

[lapis oak]

Nuclear Terror

[kind maple]

insert job application

[hushed hazel]

way ahead of you brother

[raw pendant]

Well I honestly perfer the idea of it being old duke

[valid crypt]

I dont on a basis that it would kinda make old duke akin to another nuclear terror

[raw pendant]

This honestly looks unlike nuclear terror in many ways

He ain't a funny insect anymore which I honestly liked before

[valid crypt]

The part im on about is how nuclear terror is a fucked up weird thing beyond saving and so is the resprite
Making old duke that also makes old duke a fucked up weird thing beyond saving (and cant serve as a tyrant of the acid sea which was pretty cool)

[fringe quiver]

when the redesign is a redesign

[azure oak]

still a pretty big change from green bug to the horrors

[agile latch]

now it trully is a terror

[fringe quiver]

nothing annoys me more on this community than people seeing a redesign and being "it dosent even look like xyz" YES BECAUSE ITS NOT MEANT TO ‼️ ITS A REDESIGN

[valid crypt]

Is it nuclear tho

[vivid hemlock]

what

do

you think

[valid crypt]

No cause it doesnt look very nuclear

[agile latch]

its mutated/ cursed due to the evil acid moon whatever ™️

[vivid hemlock]

[azure oak]

what is evil acid moon whatever

[valid crypt]

Acid moon being the parasite thing?

[cunning sequoia]

you know the desert scourge resprite is cool but it doesnt look exactly like current desert scourge

its kinda mid ngl

[agile latch]

i never posted the tail

i think that was on tobias post with the green man

[azure oak]

whoops phrased weirdly

[agile latch]

only sent the new head because users were still basing themselves on the old one (the red one) and tobias had already posted the head gore too

[azure oak]

yeah it was tobias who posted that and the sprite's length

sometimes my english just goofs up

[fringe quiver]

guys the new thing that is meant to not look like the old thing dosent look like the old thing

horrible

guys supreme calamitas isn't a flaming eyeball anymore??? wtf how could they do this, that Woman looks nothing like supreme calamitas

[pearl sentinel]

nothing annoys me more than that and people thinking they have better ideas than the devs (then proceed to post an idea that is a ridiculous amount of extra work for no reason)

[lean cave]

they should turn crabulon into a 3d ball

[cunning sequoia]

that one hakita quote

[fringe quiver]

please add sea slug

sea slug abyss

[rose laurel]

Game design is deceptively difficult

[fringe quiver]

big sea slug abyss

small sea slug abyss

fire sea slug abyss layer 3

[pearl sentinel]

when i become a calamity developer

[fringe quiver]

please

void sea salug

void sea slug layer 4

[pearl sentinel]

i have many ideas that are finished

[fringe quiver]

also yeah jokes aside

game design is way harder than people think lol

[cunning sequoia]

add manta ray

manta ray deus

manta ray abyss

[pearl sentinel]

some people genuinely think its "press button to add thing"

[cunning sequoia]

manta ra

[dull heart]

hi am back

[cunning sequoia]

hi add manta ray

[pearl sentinel]

(the second part of this message is mostly about someone specific )

[dull heart]

i have bad news

[thick coyote]

what do you mean, you just hit "add yharim" and "remake biome" buttons

[dull heart]

unrelated to manta ray

[fringe quiver]

it requires alot of careful thinking abt how something would interact with other mechanics and also just testing

[cunning sequoia]

dont care

[dull heart]

some of you may have already figured out this bad news

[fringe quiver]

fun fact

[cunning sequoia]

[rose laurel]

The more I have worked in Calamity the more I realized that Terraria has a far more intricate design than people give it credit for

[pearl sentinel]

hit me, doc

[rose laurel]

Even if sometimes they shove that very good game design up their ass

[fringe quiver]

ive noticed alot of the time when people design, say, new weapons

they do it like

[azure oak]

there will be no pit? 😦

[fringe quiver]

"this weapon is slow but deals big damage"

or

"this weapon is fast but deals little damage"

and that sort of thing

and like, that's just artificial variety lol

[dull heart]

bad news is:
the Calamity Mod team has been forced to delay SSO somewhat by Toby Fox

[fringe quiver]

its doing the same thing, effectively

[dull heart]

he released a sleeper agent called "deltarune"

[pearl sentinel]

we alr knew this

[terse dew]

bad news

😨

[dull heart]

which has taken a toll on the development of SSO

[lean cave]

can't believe you're adding all of deltarune to calamity

[dull heart]

but fear not!

[fringe quiver]

if u have different weapons/classes/etc in ur game u want each one of those to actually Feel different to play

[pearl sentinel]

tobias vulpine

[dull heart]

we will overcome the deltarune virus

and get SSO out with a timeline of: when we finish it

[pearl sentinel]

in deltarune chapter 4 ||if you try playing megalovania on one of the pianos the annoying dog runs you over with a car ||

[fringe quiver]

yep

he does that

[rose laurel]

Shoutouts to me designing my Dev weapon and thinking "damn this shit is a lot" I realized

[dull heart]

it's ok reb

[rose laurel]

Wait, I know why I don't like Ark of the Cosmos now!

[fringe quiver]

is it a one piece reference, a genshin reference, or both

[agile latch]

checking the red nation users talking about the boss shifts

its uncanny how the users there base their opnion on ancient scrapped stuff

[dull heart]

the tooltip for your dev item is

[agile latch]

or headcanons

[dull heart]

much shorter than mine

[fringe quiver]

what are the masses saying...

[dull heart]

so you're fine

[agile latch]

most users enjoy the shift

[rose laurel]

It's because Big Rip is completely disconnected from the main gameplay loop of Ark

And then I realized

[azure oak]

wow, unheard of

[fringe quiver]

if i was a dev my dev item would be a item that just turns your player sprite into yuri plush

not even like a sprite of yuri plush

just the whole ass png

[vivid hemlock]

[agile latch]

but some were saying pre hm dragonfolly dont make much sense because its a dragon (its a offshoot... we have basilisks and pigrons..) and that its a failed clone of yharon (it hasnt been one for centuries)

[rose laurel]

Holy shit I know how to design weapons now???

[azure oak]

red nation? joy? unbelievable

[fringe quiver]

uncanny ....

[fringe quiver]

designing weapons is honestly like, really tricky

[lyric trellis]

Things must stay the way they are forever

[vivid hemlock]

red nation is like a view into the past

[agile latch]

but yea most users seems to enjoy the changes

[dull heart]

designing weapons is simple just

[agile latch]

which is surprising

for red nation

[dull heart]

throw stuff at the wall until it's fun

source: mirror blade rewowrk

[vivid hemlock]

wait, really???

[fringe quiver]

roy went from having 6 weapon archetypes for melee to only 3 becauase none of us could figure out how to make 6 archetypes work

[pearl sentinel]

i havent found anything about boss shift on red nation

[modern grove]

is red nation reddit

[rose laurel]

Also, to answer your question, Cheese

It's a One Piece reference

[agile latch]

slime god being post queen slime dont make sense

[fringe quiver]

YAYYYYYYYYY

[pearl sentinel]

mihawks sword 🥹

[agile latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359694226404802580/1381025531021103235/Tenna_overworld_kick.gif

[rose laurel]

No it's a lightning bolt

[fringe quiver]

when the user finds out that if a change is made on one side of development other sides can also change

[agile latch]

?

[empty yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-eo2gifs-deltarune-chapter-3-deltarune-ch-3-tenna-deltarune-gif-3543875082152148675

[agile latch]

where these users fabricate this info

[fringe quiver]

this user when they find out that if slime god changed its place in progression the lore about queen slime would also obviously change

[agile latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801326871991681036/1381697670044975134/Tenna_overworld_dance.gif

[vivid hemlock]

when the slime god is stronger than the queen slime

[lyric trellis]

Dragonfolly not being post-DoG feels wrong…..

[agile latch]

dragonfolly being the strongest false dragon 🥹

where does that come from

[fringe quiver]

old duke ...

[azure oak]

"false dragon"

[empty yarrow]

You monster… I can’t post the funny television man…

[fringe quiver]

prim wyrm..............

also

[vivid hemlock]

old duke and primordial wyrm getting forgotten

[fringe quiver]

false dragon??? 😭

[rose laurel]

The literal two Offshoots stronger than it:

Byeah, my Dev weapon is a bit funny

The idea is for the weapon to actually have uh

[fringe quiver]

truth duke ❌
false dragon: ✅

[rose laurel]

3 attacks (?)

[pearl sentinel]

thinks ts dark souls

i cannot find any posts on red nation about this triangle has special eyes

[agile latch]

vanilin

did you touch up the doc already btw

either remove or add more info to the moves

[vivid hemlock]

yeah

[agile latch]

i can help with the more info part

so users stop thinking it will literally be just moving current dragonfolly to be pre hardmode with no change

[vivid hemlock]

sorry i was asleep when you pinged me

so it was half a day late

[lapis oak]

Rebecca rework Ark Big Rip and my life is yours!!!!!!

[agile latch]

checking red nation

the users there have a really twisted view of offshoots

is offshoot lore not really well explained ingame rn?

[lapis oak]

I need Ark Big Rip in my role play fantasy gameplay loop!!!!

[agile latch]

or is it just them not being able to read it properly

[rose laurel]

My brother in Christ I already did

[lapis oak]

good...

any visual changes?

[rose laurel]

Probably reading comprehension we have like, 3 entries for that shit

[fringe quiver]

its my worst enemy

[rose laurel]

Which basically go over the exact same thing

[fringe quiver]

the media literacy devil

[rose laurel]

I don't think so? But it probably should get some

[lapis oak]

yayyyy

[rose laurel]

Anyways back to writing

[agile latch]

why would ark have visual changes

[fringe quiver]

calamity community would single handedly make the media literacy devil the most powerful of them all

[kind tinsel]

ninety-seven

[cobalt wharf]

why are we changing ark again

[agile latch]

(there technically was one for galaxya but guh.. not really a fan of it since its just reusing assets in a weird way, i think its being removed tho)

[rose laurel]

I think you guys are blind

[cobalt wharf]

oh the fucking

holding up and right click or whatever

[vivid hemlock]

i did mention that it was going to be a sky boss if moved to phm, but it seemed that didnt work

[rose laurel]

I said "Big Rip should probably get some visual upgrades" and that somehow went into "Ark should get visual upgrades" and then "we're reworking Ark"

[lyric trellis]

Lots of competition there idk

[rose laurel]

Like holy shit this isn't even a game of telephone

[arctic cliff]

I mean, what are the views like?

[pearl sentinel]

media literacy devil

[rose laurel]

Anyways...

[lapis oak]

I was talking about Ark Big Rip

[agile latch]

that offshoots due to having dragonblood should be really strong, folly still being a clone of yharon, folly being the strongest offshoot

and some other stuff

[pearl sentinel]

folly isnt even lik

an individual

its just a fucing bird

[rose laurel]

Essentially the weapon has two attack modes, being a normal melee swing which if it hits a target, it will add a mark to them

The right click would throw a lightning bolt, which will home towards a marked target like Purity Attunement in BB does

Lightning bolts can stick to enemies and/or terrain. If a lightning bolt hits another they'll explode and deal AOE damage

After you detonate enough lightning bolts, a ball of lightning would show up somewhere nearby and you would be able to hit it with a melee swing towards a target to deal immense damage. This ball would also be affected by the home-in effect of the melee hit mark

[cobalt wharf]

dat fuckin bird that i hate

[lyric trellis]

Mothron

[agile latch]

bird with a large family

and faint electric powers

[fringe quiver]

i think this server would benefit alot from not immediately assuming what a conversation about when they join the chat

😭

[agile latch]

there is some funny ideias for folly i been talking with xyk and dia tho

[fringe quiver]

like try backreading or atleast asking what the convo is about or something

[lapis oak]

ball

[fringe quiver]

i'm really intrigued on folly if the move happens because

[rose laurel]

This is how I want my Dev weapon to work

[fringe quiver]

surely that'd warrant a redesign right

[lapis oak]

ball lightning mentioned ❗ ❓ ❓ ❓

[fringe quiver]

i feel like current folly dosen't really feel very sky coded...

folly's overall like, vibes

[rose laurel]

It's funny because all of these powers aren't like, random bullshit I came up with on a whim

[fringe quiver]

feel very tropics-coded to me

[vivid hemlock]

it was already planned for a resprite so its just an excuse for a larger redesign

[azure oak]

imagine smaller folly relatives being critters on sky islands

[vivid hemlock]

bumblefolly....

[pearl sentinel]

new hive mind and perferators design/sprite 🥹

[rose laurel]

I had a character whose power was to create lightning bolts in an RP and everything I put on this weapon are different techniques she could use

[fringe quiver]

i think a mix of the small buglike traits such as the multiple eyes and "antennae" and the yellow/red make it feel very jungle pilled to me for some reason...

[agile latch]

follies being a swarm battle, and also sort of being dragon vultures (not literal vultures in design but in behaviour)

[empty yarrow]

Didn’t that Clone idea die with the New Lore?

[vivid hemlock]

yes

[empty yarrow]

Like 2 years ago now?

[agile latch]

as in they steal energy from other dragon corpses and also aerialite, and this energy mutates them

[rose laurel]

It has always been baffling to me how Draedon literally didn't have a single successful project

[agile latch]

very varied species

[agile latch]

exo mechs

unless you count them losing to the player as a failure

[kind tinsel]

he invented rubber

[agile latch]

(arsenal stuff are also very successful for what they were built for)

[pearl sentinel]

its 2025

[fringe quiver]

the only real failed project he has now is aureus, in a way

[agile latch]

cal clone

[lapis oak]

maybe Draedon is washed after all

[rose laurel]

Mechs? Went rogue
Cal Clone? Fucked up and bad
Folly? Also fucked up and bad
Plaguebringer? Never hit mass production
Aureus? Also just didn't work

[lyric trellis]

Yeah cause Golem was too powerful

[agile latch]

the normal mechs

[fringe quiver]

oh true i guess there's calclone

[agile latch]

plaguebringer sorta is not a failure tho

[pearl sentinel]

draedon getting mauled by a grizzly bear:

[fringe quiver]

plaguebringer in a way

[agile latch]

its actually a huge sucess

[fringe quiver]

was succesfull yeah

[kind tinsel]

the plague kinda just

exists

[fringe quiver]

like you could argue it never hit mass production yeah but

[agile latch]

draedon is suffering from sucess

[fringe quiver]

for what its worth

[agile latch]

on plague

(its too good..)

[fringe quiver]

it was very sucessfull

[azure oak]

also aureus wasnt even meant to study the infection originally

[fringe quiver]

unironically yeah 😭

[azure oak]

it was for recovering stuff from battlefields and it probably did that job just fine

[empty yarrow]

The concept of a calendar:

[rose laurel]

Anyways

[empty yarrow]

It was in reply to this idk what happened

[pearl sentinel]

i need aureus changes seeing passive aureus in astral infection would make me give 20 a month to patron (im extortion)

[vivid hemlock]

exo auric plague nanomachine hive matriarch

[empty yarrow]

Its been 2 years now

[pearl sentinel]

damn i didnt realize it was only 2023

[agile latch]

cant wait for exo slime god

[rose laurel]

I really like the Plague and PBG in general tbh, I think they fit an extremelly interesting place in the narrative

[kind tinsel]

they just exist

[agile latch]

exo old duke

[kind tinsel]

where is exo lepus

[agile latch]

exoclops

[rose laurel]

I sorta forced them to fit in but like

[fringe quiver]

exo mirage mallah

[azure oak]

i think it has potential for cool designs and it has a cool story but unfortunatley not much is done with it in-game

[fringe quiver]

tommorow

[kind tinsel]

exo yharim skeletron

[rose laurel]

I really want to make the Plague as a whole feel a lot more personal to the player

[kind tinsel]

junjile

[pearl sentinel]

add the plague minibiome and the plaguebringer goliath in a test tube and it naturally spawns and its projectiles spread plague to all the blocks you hit and make it spread and infect every enemy in the game and

[empty yarrow]

Draedon dipping bee into nanomachine soup

[kind tinsel]

junjile tyrant

[rose laurel]

My ultimate goal with the Plague is for it to be something the player recognizes as THEIR problem and something THEY have to fix

[hushed hazel]

king of the junjle

[lyric trellis]

Plague killed our parents

[fringe quiver]

that'd be a interesting direction yea

[kind tinsel]

fuck i forgot the jerma bit

[azure oak]

why does the plague even get unleashed after we kill golem

[kind tinsel]

fortnite

[vivid hemlock]

make the plague target npcs

[kind tinsel]

draedon was busy

[azure oak]

or get unleashed at all

[fringe quiver]

someone is calling you on your shellphone

draedon: you fucked up dude go fix it now
terraria: mb original gangster

[rose laurel]

Gameplay Moment (I want to give it a better method)

[kind tinsel]

draedon if he had whatsapp

there is nothing better than gameplay

[empty yarrow]

“Because Plaguebringer killed my Grandma ok?!”

[pearl sentinel]

sonic unleashed

[azure oak]

big ol red button that says "dont press" in jungle lab

[lyric trellis]

Plague is so old (the enemies 💔)

[vivid hemlock]

@fringe quiver

[kind tinsel]

is PBG a VTOL aircraft

[fringe quiver]

go grandam. go

[rose laurel]

The biggest flaw Calamity has currently in its storytelling is that NOTHING feels close to the player because you just walk somewhere hit a butterfly and oops Empress of Light spawned

[azure oak]

honestly i'd like a PBG design that feels like it's been mutilated instead of big metal bee

[kind tinsel]

what did empress do to deserve this

[kind tinsel]

VTOL AIRCRAFT

[pearl sentinel]

my dog stepped on a bee

[kind tinsel]

COMBINE SYNTHS INSPIRATION

i will bee several days

[empty yarrow]

My bee stepped on a DoG

[azure oak]

so why does astral infection

[lyric trellis]

It just does

[rose laurel]

We don't talk about Astral Infection

[pearl sentinel]

overworld aureus 🥺

[rose laurel]

And by this I mean that if I ever had to pick one major thing to delete from Calamity it'd be Infection in a heartbeat

[empty yarrow]

We don’t talk about Peak in calamity-spoiler-talk 🗣️🔥🔥

[fringe quiver]

ithink infection has potential to be very visually interesting but unfortunately currently it is purple robot land

[azure oak]

i mean if you want body horror infection the plague's right there

[fringe quiver]

like its literally the fucked up magic land

its basically entirely made of chaotic mana and magic energy n shit

[azure oak]

and at least the plague has a role in the main story

[fringe quiver]

u can go wilder with its aesthethics and design than literally anywhere else except maybe the distortion

it shouldnt even be body horror imo

that's like, yeah, the plague, the evil biomes

thats smth the game already does

[pearl sentinel]

astral should be more mind stuff

[fringe quiver]

astral infection isn't some purely biologcal mutation thing

[empty yarrow]

I feel the Astral Infection and Plague overlap is weird

[fringe quiver]

its literally pure Magic

it should be batshit insane and esoteric and allat

[lyric trellis]

Infection is like 2018 distortion

[rose laurel]

The Infection has the potential to be really cool but that'd take a superb amount of effort which >>> I <<< am not willing to undertake

[empty yarrow]

If the Astral Infection was weaponized by Draedon I think it would be more interesting

But also

[pearl sentinel]

i think astral enemies would do better if it was more clear that these arent really mutated beings they're just

[empty yarrow]

Just the Plague but again

[pearl sentinel]

supercharged with mana

[rose laurel]

But I know other people want to make Infection good so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pearl sentinel]

pls reb astral infection is so cool.

[fringe quiver]

purple robot land

[pearl sentinel]

astrum deus . i love it.

[fringe quiver]

if cheese was calamity cheese would make astral infection esoteric drug trip land

[empty yarrow]

I feel like the Astral Infection changing biological beings into doing its bidding would be an interesting direction if connected to Draedon

[vivid hemlock]

astral monopallette

💔

[fringe quiver]

thats

[empty yarrow]

Sort of like an inspiration for the Plague, that he would perfect

[fringe quiver]

literally just the plague

and also like

draedon has so godamn much

please god

no more

[empty yarrow]

Hey I like the funky robot man ok

[vivid hemlock]

funny robot man has too much on this continent

[azure oak]

there are 6 boss fights attached to him

[raw pendant]

Or maybe it's that I don't have to like it or agree with its decisions which is what it's about

[fringe quiver]

that is literally not what you said

[empty yarrow]

I’m not asking the Infection to be dirrectly tied to Draedon

[fringe quiver]

what you said is word for word

This honestly looks unlike nuclear terror in many ways

[empty yarrow]

Just say he got inspired by what it did to his mech to make the Plague

[raw pendant]

Yeah what I imagine nuclear terror to be like, a fucked up looking insect thing

[empty yarrow]

Not asking it to be a thing Draedon created

[rose laurel]

I had an idea for Infection which honestly kinda makes up for my problems with it

[pearl sentinel]

thats because,,, thats what its BEEN...

[raw pendant]

And it's what I perfer

[pearl sentinel]

as much as i like current nuclear terror its not a super great design and if its becoming the final boss of acid rain t3

[raw pendant]

I dunno what to tell you

[pearl sentinel]

it needs to be something more

[steep path]

I've always liked that unique part of the infection where it specifically affects things that aren't sapient - so robots and animals get strung together. I feel like I haven't seen that done as much before - usually fiction writers go for "all organic life gets infected" or smth

[fringe quiver]

the previous nuclear terror design had its charm but it was also like Really Uninspired

[raw pendant]

Maybe I'm just used to current NT

[fringe quiver]

it's just a generic bug monster yea

[rose laurel]

People should avoid using subjective opinions and preconceptions to make objective points I think

[fringe quiver]

i always thought it was neat but in hindsight it is literally the textbook definition generic bug monster

[vivid hemlock]

i mean yeah its the only version thus far

[fringe quiver]

this new one is just like
Kind of Better, to be honest

[vivid hemlock]

until now

[pearl sentinel]

its like

a unique design yeah

its sick too

[azure oak]

i mean the astral infection sorta making everything blur the line between organic and inorganic seems more interesting than purple robot land

[lapis oak]

what was that image Tobias send here again?

[modern grove]

i think astral infection should be rot from rain worl

[vivid hemlock]

do you have any idea how little that narrows this down

[lean cave]

strange names

[fringe quiver]

the 3rd one is just the fucking future predator lol

which is actually a pretty cool design...

terrestrial bat creature

[lapis oak]

with the title "concept artist who doesn't know anatomy designs a monster"

[pearl sentinel]

but uh yea

[modern grove]

RJ palmer my goat

[pearl sentinel]

original nuclear terror will always have a place in my heart

[modern grove]

very cool artist

[pearl sentinel]

i even put a tiny one on the original canvas

but the new one is just

[fringe quiver]

literally just the fucking

[pearl sentinel]

so much better objectively from a design standpoint

[pearl sentinel]

just looked it up those are sick wtf

[thick coyote]

you know

i agree with Rebecca

id also delete the astral infecton if i could delete any major part of the game

its so nothing

its incidental to the story

[vivid hemlock]

we have 2 purple worm bosses that are known for consuming things

i think thats 1 more than necessary

[pearl sentinel]

ASTRUM DEUS IS A FUN FIGHT THOUGH

[lapis oak]

Vanillin just keeps consuming things

[wise gale]

looking back through chat and honestly these boss reshuffles seem so good

[lapis oak]

destroy him

[vivid hemlock]

+93 neutrons

[wise gale]

story-wise it actually makes pre-hm interesting

[drowsy reef]

Man working my way up the stupid long vertical stretch was funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[azure oak]

i could see astral infection being broken up and its current content being rethemed and spread over other pieces

[lapis oak]

😢

[wise gale]

astral infection shouldn't be removed, it has potential but yeah currently it's not too important

though not every boss needs to link to the lore

[pearl sentinel]

but m,,, the vibes ,,, the music,, heavens hell-sent abomination...

[drowsy reef]

Yeah it’s such a pretty biome

[modern grove]

literally anything in calamity

[azure oak]

i said i could see, not should

[drowsy reef]

I want more of it

[wise gale]

i like the idea that the astral infection is it's own thing as a consequence of our progress

[dense sundial]

BASILISKS??

[pulsar cobalt]

literally the hypothetical was about which major part of calamity would you like being removed

[thick coyote]

its not a consequence of our progress though

[pulsar cobalt]

[vivid hemlock]

i dont think any biome except arguably the current sunken sea is pretty right now

[pulsar cobalt]

yes

[drowsy reef]

I mean the blocks to build stuff and all that are just

Amazing

I’m so glad they went with this look over the purple and gold one

[wise gale]

ok maybe i was imagining it but i thought as some point there was a lore reason written for the star falling after we beat wall

[vivid hemlock]

it still needs improvement

especially in the limited array of colors

[wise gale]

ah mb

in it's current state yeah i see it

[drowsy reef]

I’m not saying it’s not something that can be improved

[thick coyote]

in lore im pretty sure the astral infection already exists before the wall fight

but maybe im wrong

[vivid hemlock]

it exists just not on the planet

[drowsy reef]

But like when would you spawn the meteor if not post-Wall

[thick coyote]

i meant on the planet

[wise gale]

^

[pearl sentinel]

https://youtu.be/cZ4Q2WLmUII?si=FZsajtcCoki0IZOf this is like my favorite biome track in calamity

[mystic eagle]

Alot of weapons do not miss their potential

[pulsar cobalt]

no

it falls during the game

[mystic eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5brLl2R_mZI and this is mine.

[thick coyote]

thats even sillier

[pearl sentinel]

it exists and draedon is aware of it iirc but the meteor doesnt hit terraria until after wof

[mystic eagle]

Me when I open youtube and get A Legend's Strife at the top of the home page

[wise gale]

it's a space plague, it only reaches us once wall dies

[pearl sentinel]

yeah it makes aureus immediately being infected kinda silly

[raw falcon]

okay but to be fair, aureus was due to circumstances (kinda) outside of his control

[vivid hemlock]

well its in space

[wise gale]

via the meteor

[vivid hemlock]

thats why he knows

[wise gale]

aureus is just a bit goofy tbh

[pulsar cobalt]

dont forget that old lore exos were incomplete

[pearl sentinel]

which is why seeing aureus get infected after being passive in the biome will be peak if it happens

[wise gale]

that would genuinely be kinda cool

[raw falcon]

Also wouldnt it be cool if astral infection moreso affected the planetoids instead of the surface?

[mystic eagle]

Old lore when it has to limit the powerscaling:

[pearl sentinel]

its not confirmed but its an idea floating around apparently

[wise gale]

or maybe like a cage or structure to contain it, that the infection then lands near

[hot pebble]

I'm gonna use the power of Community

[wise gale]

aureus roaming around on its own would be weird unless it was quite a bit smaller

[thick coyote]

the aquatic scourge in question:

[wise gale]

but i like the idea of it a lot though

[rose laurel]

Can't wait for me saying "If I could" to evolve into "Holy shit the Devs are removing the Astral Infection!!"

[pearl sentinel]

😭

[hot pebble]

c'mon, try to stop me

[vivid hemlock]

aureus was a repurposed war machine used as a rover to monitor the astral

[pulsar cobalt]

keep in mind aureus would have ik so it would walk on terrain way more seemlessly

[wise gale]

there's a lot more space for scourge to be though, idk i feel like it would fit

[indigo fog]

Seeing astrum aureus in the background would be cool

[wise gale]

^

[rose laurel]

It's not happening lmao

[wise gale]

it in the background would work

[pearl sentinel]

again not confirmed at all but it would be passive as in it probably wouldnt be able to harm you

[hot pebble]

I'm gonna use it!

[indigo fog]

I feel like the background is underused in mods so this could be a cool use

[pearl sentinel]

[mystic eagle]

Dw Deus will be in the background in the future

[wise gale]

current aureus moving around the uneven terrain in the infection would look weird

[pearl sentinel]

what if i killed you instead

[wise gale]

but either in the background, or with a new walking animation, it would work really well

[vivid hemlock]

its getting redesigned

[wise gale]

i really like the idea

[mystic eagle]

I never said I would kill you

[wise gale]

[hot pebble]

I'm using power of Community and nobody can stop me!

[vivid hemlock]

strange user

kiri how would you describe this phenomenon

[lapis oak]

I keep thinking fucking passive Aureus gonna be in SSO but then I remembered it was in Ozz's correction and not changelogs

[wise gale]

oh i just noticed

[wise gale]

[vivid hemlock]

sso is already big enough we dont need more!!!

[empty yarrow]

Yharim in SSO

[vivid hemlock]

biggest update in history and its just the first part, thats not even done yet

[lapis oak]

This is so Ozzatrous

[torn kite]

Deus

[hot pebble]

I'm replacing the first N in your nickname with Z

[thick coyote]

red nation moment

[vivid hemlock]

strange activity

[hot pebble]

ok i think its enough

[wise gale]

ok

[hot pebble]

ok

[steep path]

VaZillin

[vivid hemlock]

there is no capital N in the first place

[thick coyote]

not even a bad name but a weird thing to do

[steep path]

But it's gotta be replaced with a capital z

Oh I c

[wise gale]

im confused

[hot pebble]

put this in the Russian translator

[gritty torrent]

will sso make shpc left click a NOT-dust-weapon

[hot pebble]

this is so stupid

im stupid

[vivid hemlock]

yes

[gritty torrent]

no offense to anyone but this dust looks ugly af

the color gamma is just not good

the amount of dust is bad

[indigo fog]

Dust weapon is a term?

[gritty torrent]

VERY much so

examples are

uhhhhhhh

[vivid hemlock]

the sand spelltomes

[gritty torrent]

I FORGOT but there are examples

helium flash

[indigo fog]

I never thought of a term of it but it makes sense, they bother me

[vivid hemlock]

terraria dust

[fringe quiver]

ILOVE PLAYING TELEPHONE!!!!!!!!

[gritty torrent]

will sso have deltarune reference

[indigo fog]

Do old calamity flamethrowers count as dust

[fringe quiver]

its a pile of yharim's dust.

[cunning sequoia]

piles of yharim's coke

[gritty torrent]

in a form of ||black shard|| perhaps

[vivid hemlock]

calamity needs 100000 more reference items

for some reason

[indigo fog]

Nvm just looked it up it seems they've all been changed

[fringe quiver]

WAITER WAITER

MORE REFERENCES

[empty yarrow]

Ghaster in Calamity when?

[gritty torrent]

not necessarily it's just weird thaqt deltarune has none

[mystic eagle]

Ghaster

[fringe quiver]

mysterious manager

[gritty torrent]

GASTER CAN GO FUCKING KI-

[empty yarrow]

G Haster

[lapis oak]

Calamity reference items will outnumber original items at this point

[mystic eagle]

Me patiently waiting for Egg Man to show his face in Deltarune

[gritty torrent]

i mean that there aren't any deltarune references

dark master isn't one afaik

[pulsar cobalt]

im wing ding the royal scientist

[vivid hemlock]

we should like nuke all bad donor items and then undedicate all good ones

[empty yarrow]

Its a Zelda reference

[vivid hemlock]

surely this is a good idea

[hot pebble]

gaster gaster pipidastre

[gritty torrent]

shush.

[hot pebble]

ok

[gritty torrent]

what the fuck does that even-

[fringe quiver]

myserious manager

[gritty torrent]

actually i don't think i want to know :trollage:

[hot pebble]

🙌

[cunning sequoia]

gaster, your biggest hypeman

[fringe quiver]

mysterious manager

[gritty torrent]

the biggest bitch in all of deltarune

[mystic eagle]

Ace's Apron of Affection (Donor Item)
Supreme Ultramage, Permafrost (line: Watch what happens when I cast a spell I don't know!)
Ares' enrage (literally Spamton Neo's enrage)

[gritty torrent]

the hell is

apron of affection

[gritty torrent]

since when

[fringe quiver]

vanity item

[cunning sequoia]

vanity thats ralsei's dress thingy

[gritty torrent]

OH MY GOD

[mystic eagle]

I'm Ralseiriel

[gritty torrent]

HOW did i not know that

is there a hat

[mystic eagle]

Can we get Xenoblade references instead

[gritty torrent]

that looks like him

[empty yarrow]

Gaster’s taken a liking to Terraria while he researches stuff

[indigo fog]

I'm honestly suprised a patreon donor didn't make a [BIG SHOT] weapon

[mystic eagle]

Wizard hat painted green

[empty yarrow]

Ok but Deltarune Terraria mod

[vivid hemlock]

the prophecy

[gritty torrent]

all that's left is a fucking wiffle bat

[cunning sequoia]

The heroes question their whereabouts

[empty yarrow]

Kris Susie and the Soul seal Yharim D. Gaster in the Avatar Dimension

[cunning sequoia]

this is very spoilerous