lore-discussion

[raven brook]

i hope it remains real when sso is a thing in 20 years

[heavy zenith]

We are getting gta 6 before sso

Let that sink in

[timber glacier]

amidas is actually gonna steal king clam's soul and we fight omega amidas instead

[raven brook]

he wasn't gonna be found inside of the clam anymore

but to compensate in one of his quest the clam steals his soul

[bright phoenix]

Hell no bruh, last time I let it in it flooded my housing

That sink can gtfo!!

[heavy zenith]

Top 10 All The Mods blocks on god

[bright phoenix]

The 7 clamity souls:

[sinful adder]

How the fuck

[eager bluff]

no dont say that youll summon overdone and hell post omegamidias

[timber glacier]

amidas is going to absorb the souls of flight, light, night, blight, fright, might and sight to become photoshop amidas after we kill king clam

[sinful adder]

This is basically what I suggested to happen with slime god

[bright phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493

[raven brook]

Amidias After Not Surviving

[bright phoenix]

You can read the link just imagine the gif in your mind

[timber glacier]

bro looks like he was sucked dry omg

[heavy sail]

do yall think permafrost was conscious inside cryogen? from the way he acts when he gets out i assume he was basically in some kind of stasis. just a nice, 12-ish year long nap in the crystal,~~ basically only feels like one week man~~
he's gonna think about what he's done and then he's gonna come out of the crystal

[hoary cape]

Amidas is going to absorb every single deific soul and become super god

[bright phoenix]

AANS 😱 😱 😱

[heavy sail]

holy shit??? he's so dry

spooky, i like it

[raven brook]

TERRARIAN MY FUCKING SOUL PLEASE I NEED IT

I AM IN AGONY

[heavy zenith]

Watterrrrr

[heavy sail]

imagine the angler just like, pokes him

[bright phoenix]

Twinsies with nautilus ❤️

[heavy sail]

true!!

[sinful adder]

How the hell does giant clam steal amidias soul

[heavy sail]

but for real that husk look is so cool and creepy. i hope the husk amidas concept gets used for something eventually

[raven brook]

sso clams have magical powers

their pearls specifically

[timber glacier]

I can't wait for cnidrion to come in and beat the crap out of king clam to free amidas's soul since they're a kind hosre

[sinful adder]

Can we get it to do that to someone else

[raven brook]

dunno if that'll still be a thing but the small clams were able to absorb mana and cast spells

using their pearls

meanwhile king clam, having a much bigger and more powerful pearl

could straight up just absorb souls

[heavy zenith]

Can't wait for Cnidrion to be post-Providence

[sinful adder]

Can we trap Yharon's soul in the pearl

[raven brook]

MY FUCKING SOUL TERRARIAN PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[timber glacier]

waiter, waiter more souls please - king clam

[bright phoenix]

We beat yharim by using clam summon during fight and it just eats him

This was the true clamity all along

[sinful adder]

This is a massive giant clam upscale, soul stealing powers is the thing that FUCKINF FOVOS does

[timber glacier]

let us spare king clam by feeding him one of every soul type

[raven brook]

King clam upscale

[timber glacier]

can't everyone kind of absorb souls though

[raven brook]

I think you'd kill the clam and all the souls it absorbed would be returned though so they're not actually permanently gone

[bright phoenix]

Powerscalers shaking in their boots with the retiering of giant clam

[heavy zenith]

Lets theorize: what kind of pillar we making with the fragments of the rebirth soul

[raven brook]

eclipse pillar or something idk

[timber glacier]

neutron pillar

[raven brook]

they're all named ofter

space shit

supernova pillar cuz rebirth

or whatever

stars explode and die and new things form

yep

yummers

[sinful adder]

No that's very difficult to do

You need a fancy ritual normally

[heavy zenith]

Yummerz

[bright phoenix]

Mmm yes

[bright phoenix]

What you CAN do is turn their soul into cool new armor :DDD

[timber glacier]

its just also like probably giant clam can't just absorb any ol soul it probably can't be a strong enough one to overpower him

[raven brook]

i miss you lizard scourge

i miss my lizard

one day. he'll be real

[bright phoenix]

Spectre drip

[timber glacier]

one day the sunken sea will be overhauled

and then lizard scourge will be real

and giant clam will have aura

[bright phoenix]

Lizard scourge?

[heavy zenith]

Giant clam has mad aura

[raven brook]

it literally has aura have you sen the giant pearl item

it spawns a slowing aura or whatever

[timber glacier]

desert scourge is going to basically gonna become a lizar guy

[raven brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1442407077019521064/1448462672923197611/caption.gif

[timber glacier]

erm but giant clam doesn't have aura himself hes just there

[heavy sail]

leezard :)

[bright phoenix]

Ooooh lizzrr

[magic epoch]

yHe pearl is FROM the clam

The pearl is what gives the clam aura because it is part of the clam

[bright phoenix]

Does this mean he won't be a worm boss anymore or is he a still just a looooong boi with leggies now

[timber glacier]

also wait king clam eating souls isn't really an upscale since we have common enemies called eaters of souls I doubt it'd be like super crazy

[raven brook]

he's Technically still a worm boss

but hes gonna like climb walls and shit

[timber glacier]

Also I'm excited for when SSO eventually happens since them my beloved cnidrion will be reborn as a mini-boss and become cool like they were destined to be

[raven brook]

not really your traditional worm boss

its only really a worm boss in the sesne its segmented

[raven brook]

idk if the name is literal

isdrm what the bestiary says

[bright phoenix]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Supreme_Mana_Potion
yummy blueberry necroplasm beverage

[bright phoenix]

Oooh sick

[timber glacier]

but I hope when cnidrion gets reworked into a proper mini-boss it's master mode exclusive pet/mount item is a mount version of it it'd be peak

[heavy sail]

i still wanna hear you peeps' thoughts on whether perma was concious while within The Cube

[raven brook]

calamity coul use more mounts

theres few and even fewer that aren't donor

[raven brook]

I imagine he wasn't

If he was damn that's kinda agonizing

[magic epoch]

cryostasisgen

[heavy sail]

same here, he seems pretty nonchalant when he's freed

[timber glacier]

he was probably in statis being like cryogenically frozen

[heavy zenith]

I think if he was, he would be able to exert some sort of control over it no?

[bright phoenix]

Esp with transformations now in the main game as of 1.4.5

[magic epoch]

he was in statis!!

!??!

[timber glacier]

permafrost is gay confirmed

[magic epoch]

is this okay with braelor

[bright phoenix]

Though thorium(?) or one of the other mods has had like a mouse transform mount for a long time

[bright phoenix]

Ya they're in a polycule

[heavy sail]

i can't believe statis would cheat on braelor like that, damn... like i know he's stuck in the distortion but what the hell man- oh nvm

[timber glacier]

I can't wait to see how calamity nerfs each and every new mount and transformation when it reaches 1.4.5 like holy moly those guys are all gonna be obliterate

[heavy sail]

love across the battlelines

[bright phoenix]

Enemy to lovers

[heavy sail]

i wonder how long cal and her dad were expecting he'd be in there. presumably until yharim either died or lifted the kill order

it seems like yharim isn't nearly as mad at his old advisor as he used to be

[magic epoch]

I'm not sure he would lift it since he did think that permafrost was permadead

[heavy sail]

...of course, he also thought the guy was dead, so...

yeah, that

[bright phoenix]

Yeah I assume Calamitas may not have been planning to release him herself
One, because of Yharim but I also think it's possible she may have been too afraid to face him again or something like that

[heavy sail]

it'd be cool if some of perma's dialogue in future updates had a slighly paranoid edge to it, like he's still worried about the yharmy coming to kill him

[timber glacier]

I feel like the plan was probably gonna be just snowgrave him indefinitely and they'd later figure out if it was safe to free him but idk

[bright phoenix]

Probably this

[raven brook]

Permafrost what r you doing. thats not my archmage. youre like 300 years old thats not my archmage

[raven brook]

Yeah i headcano nthe idea was

[heavy sail]

she was just hoping someone would come along and get the souls and do it for her... or accept that she was just never gonna see him again. he's not dead, not exactly. but he might as well be

[raven brook]

to keep him in there until yharim dies or is gone for good

I do like to think they both agreed to it

If anything

[timber glacier]

permafrost is in stasis while signus is in statis

[raven brook]

I like the idea calamitas was reluctant

but perma convinced her it was the best move to make

[heavy sail]

me too!!

[raven brook]

MRRR BEASTTT

[bright phoenix]

Considering that Cryogen is a product of ice magic too and calamitas wasn't exactly the gifted with forms of magic that weren't brimstone, Permafrost himself definitely contributed to his own prison and I think very directly

[raven brook]

Yeah

While cal isn't incapable of using other magics and if anything i do imagine ice is probably amongst some of her best that ISN'T brimstone/necromancy

I do feel like for something as well-made as cryogen, specially considering Yharim himself thought it was one of permar's rogue constructs

he def played a major part on it

[heavy sail]

i also like to think that the last think he said to her was something like, "I am so very proud of you." to reassure her that he doesn't hate her after the whole Illmeris Incineration thing. or he just said he loved her

[timber glacier]

"look what happens when you cast a spell you don't know" - permafrost seconds before calamitas finished the cryogen creation spell

[bright phoenix]

That would probably result in the start of the waterworks we hear about in this "tearful confrontation" described in the bestiary

[heavy sail]

exactly!!

[bright phoenix]

I think for Calamitas's current mental state, she's more afraid of hearing that people DON'T hate and condemn her for what she did

[heavy sail]

YEAH

[timber glacier]

I do kind of hope that once amidas gets rewritten in SSO like he does actually still hate her at least a bit cos like he really should not be like super chilll with her

[bright phoenix]

It would be easy, predictable if she was nothing more than the witch that burned the seas and added countless corpses to her walking graveyard to the world

Atonement is far more difficult

[bright phoenix]

I think there's a bit of grief and resentment he should still have, but also he probably saw that she was still very young and possibly a child when she did what she did so I think he ultimately may blame yharim overall

[timber glacier]

yeah but like he should not just go yeah all good to her

he realistically should still not feel happy seeing her he should feel somewhat angry

[bright phoenix]

I do think it is important though to keep the fact that he does ultimately decide to show her compassion

It is very effective for both him and her

Still angry yes, but choosing not to let it rule him as it did her

[timber glacier]

I do feel like he should also definitely have her as a hated neighbour if only to represent how she reminds him of his failures and thus is unhappy when near her

[bright phoenix]

Oooh yeah

[raven brook]

amidias immediate forgiveness right now absolutely feels unrealistic yea

[bright phoenix]

He could say that he is disappointed in himself for feeling such a way as well, that he cannot ever fully detach his own guilt from her visage, but struggles with being around her regardless

[timber glacier]

also I do feel like permafrost not having scal as a loved neighbour is weird like I feel like he should be quite happy to see her being like her pseudo-adopted dad

[raven brook]

yeah thats gonna be changed later

npc happinesses weren't changed since before the rewrite

surprised they still havent

[bright phoenix]

I think in old lore they weren't really linked at all yeah

Permafrost was just kinda some guy

[timber glacier]

also like it feels weird calamaitas only likes the clothier for being cursed but has no happiness interaction with the other 2 cursed npcs of zoologist and kind of the guide

[raven brook]

permafrost actually became far more relevant in new lore i think

though really i feel like alot of characters did

in general

[raven brook]

tbh idt giving her 500 different npc likes/dislikes would be good

consistency is good, vanilla only has like 4 npcs at best for likes/dislikes

or 5 idrm

[bright phoenix]

A lot of old lore was very detached in general but I love how they took the characters and elements they already had and made them more relevant to the overall narrative, gave them roles to play

[raven brook]

i think some of the biggest examples are like

ravager and the former sentinels

except ceaseless because that's still just a door .

[bright phoenix]

Ceaseless is not a character

It's just a thingie

[raven brook]

ravager effectiely wasnt a character in old lore it was just a big flesh monster

[bright phoenix]

But cool role nonetheless

[raven brook]

and while not implemented ingame proper yet ravager's new role in the story is much bigger and can lend itself to probably one of the biggest single tragedies in the mod if done right

[timber glacier]

I do feel like calamitas having only 2 (+ princess but she don't really count everyone likes her) rn is a bit too few for me, like she should probably get like 2 more i feel

[raven brook]

(please cathedral save us save us cathedral

[bright phoenix]

Yeah, nothing about agnus immolation, just some corner necromancer cult that summoned it to ravage

[raven brook]

oncce again yharim

why did you kill calamity jesus

why did you do that man .

thats fucked up

[bright phoenix]

Ravager was always a cool concept but it has been elevated so much

[bright phoenix]

What if she's a contrarian and actually HATES the princess !!!

[bright phoenix]

Bro was just so good to people, like as god of sacrifices he could have gained ultimate power by having his devotees lay down their lives but instead, he was almost purely self-sacrificial

[raven brook]

• benevolent god that loved his worshippers deeply
• sacrificed himself for the good of his people
• they literally ate parts of his body to heal their wounds

at this rate i wouldnt be surprised if his last words when yharim killed him were "i forgive you" or something this man is Calamity Mod Jesus

i also like to headcanon that his "worshippers" neither identified themselves or were seen by him as that

not a cult or a religgion or devotees, but a family

[bright phoenix]

They were just his neighborhood they come dab him up

He was actually just mayor or something

[timber glacier]

but theres literally a painting of the princess forgiving her so she can't hate her

[bright phoenix]

Is there? That's awesome

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Forgiveness
incredible

[timber glacier]

I will say her current happiness dialogue for her being near the princess is honestly quite lame
"What a strangely pleasant kid, <Name of Princess> the Princess is to be around."
like it kind of suggests she thinks kids suck which like is not something we know of her to think

[bright phoenix]

Some dated dialogue probably

[raven brook]

I mean idk i think its pretty normal

Like i dont hate kids but if i see a particularly chill kid ill go "Huh that kids kinda chill."

[bright phoenix]

Calamitas is only in her twenties also and princess is.... wait how old is the princess?

[raven brook]

call me a grumpy grandma but i cant deny alot of kids are loud and bother me a bit even if i don't hate them

me when im trying to sleep but theyre screaming outside

[raven brook]

probably like

idk

11

[bright phoenix]

Oh my god she IS a kid

[raven brook]

calamitas is closer to her 30s actually iirc

[bright phoenix]

I was guesstimating probably around 28

Or something like that

[raven brook]

yeah somewhere around that i think

[noble falcon]

Calamitas when the itty bitty girly child has a mage weapon (they can bond over epic magic stuff)

[timber glacier]

I feel like it could be something more interesting if its talking about how forgiving the princess is or something rather than just shes a shockingly pleasant child to be near'

[raven brook]

tbh i think itd

[bright phoenix]

28 is still 20s, I say, dreading the ever coming tick of the clock at the ripe ol' 21

[raven brook]

not be good to tie everything regarding calmaitas to forgiveness and grief and etc

shes more than just her trauma

i think its good to still have little tidbits of characterization that just Are

[timber glacier]

yeah but like there is a painting called forgiveness where the princess is forgiving calamitas but fair

[raven brook]

It's been like. over 10 years since she's left the yharmy after all. while she definitely could use therapy she's had alot of time to proccess all of that so idon't think shes exactly completely at mercy of her past

[bright phoenix]

Oohhh that's why shes so tiny in this picture, because she is just a tiny human

[raven brook]

idk exactly how old the princess is but both her and the angler are kids, they have the "left" message rather than was killed

i assume shes 11 - 133 or around that

THIRTEEN

NOT

ONE HUNDRED THIRTY THREE

[timber glacier]

well she would still be in that range

[raven brook]

True.

[light linden]

[bright phoenix]

Part of making it effective is her eventually being able to move on from it in story, and act more and more like she fits in with the townsfolk

[light linden]

you.

[bright phoenix]

That she can be more than the grief that once consumed her

[timber glacier]

but like I do feel like calamity should definitely change the npc happiness interactions of its npcs cos right now it feels kind of uninterestingly done and some feel like weird relations to me at least

[raven brook]

Having bits of characterization for calamitas that are just ltitle quirks unrelated to her past helps flesh her out as a character and make her more than just the big sad

[noble falcon]

I forgive calamitas cause she can mega evolve my weapons
Easiest redemption arc ever

[raven brook]

it makes her endearing and grounds her as a real person

[light linden]

who do think is the best character in calamity?

[raven brook]

this goes for any writing, really

[bright phoenix]

Yeee

[raven brook]

yeah it's gonna happen eventually

again idk why it hasn't yet

[raven brook]

Well accounting evetything that's ingame right now i'd say Yharim is almost objectively the best writte none

[bright phoenix]

The small little things, and this is still related to her trauma kind of but god I loved the Easter egg after killing brimstone elemental where she comes to leave a single flower

And sort of just stares at you before awkwardly disappearing

[timber glacier]

also I do feel like calamitas should probably dislike living near amidas, not cos she dislikes him but he reminds her of the horrible things she did like how she hates being in the crag

[raven brook]

In terms of favorite though it'd be Calamitas, followed closely by Xeroc

with honorable mentions to Storm Weaver, Signus and Agnus/Ravager

[timber glacier]

can you really call storm weaver a character

[bright phoenix]

😎

[raven brook]

yes he's my son

[magic epoch]

i love agnud

[raven brook]

[magic epoch]

agnus beef

[timber glacier]

make storm weaver into a town npc it'd be lit

[raven brook]

everyones sleeping on storm weaver. one day the great weavification will happen

and they will all see

[timber glacier]

weaver is going to be epic one day

[raven brook]

puppy

[bright phoenix]

Also I gotta say, like the new guy that was in here earlier I like how people assume Calamitas is the worst person ever when they start the mod but see Yharim's visage and name everywhere instead and pre-empt people to believe to be the ultimate evil or even the main villain or character when she is not, just because her name is close to 'Calamity'

[magic epoch]

cheese the character needs to be good before people like it

[raven brook]

puppy

[magic epoch]

this is NOY correct!!!

[raven brook]

it is

pupppy

[timber glacier]

it would be really funny if like out of all the bosses they like give storm weaver a sparing method where we let the kind little dog they are move in

[magic epoch]

"kind and gentle" kind is debatable but gentle is certainly not

[raven brook]

puppy

[timber glacier]

they're just very hangry when we fight them because they didn't get to eat their morning wyvern

[magic epoch]

the way it bodyslams you can. Not be called gentle

[bright phoenix]

FUCK DoG, MY #1 OPP
storm weaver just a lil eeby deeby 🪱

🐍

[raven brook]

free him

[magic epoch]

If this one thing is a lie, how can we know if the other parts are a lie?

[raven brook]

devourer is a bum. signus solos. weaver solos. idk john gluggus from the distortion solos

[magic epoch]

This is what happens when you spread falsehoods.

[timber glacier]

ceaseless solos

[bright phoenix]

John Wulfrum solos

[raven brook]

you'll see

when the great weavification happens

i'll have the last laugh

[magic epoch]

this comes back to the first point

[raven brook]

i am jane storm weaver

[magic epoch]

the character needs to be good before i like it

[timber glacier]

storm weaver rework where its just turned into a town pet with no sprite changes just still being a long worm, allowing us to pet it

[magic epoch]

doze can make this.

[timber glacier]

also dialogue where they explain how much they love the taste of wyverns'

[raven brook]

i'm not asking you to like it i'm saying wehn the great weavification happnes you will all see

all us. 4 weaver fans

we will rejoice

[magic epoch]

can you make weaver a cat on aoccsssion

[raven brook]

i mean not to say i told you but weaver already had alot more lore than people gave it credit for and until I BROUGHT IT UP nobody even realized

i'm just saying

the great weavification event

it'll happen one day

im the prophet

[magic epoch]

can you give me the in depth weaver lore

[bright phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381394124401545258/1506015034797719732/1281930_20260518152554_1.png?ex=6a0f5c4c&is=6a0e0acc&hm=b192011a67a5132acfdc3dffeb6de323e30f4a7b43a6fbd79d154fcd8eabd8e4&
reminds me of these

[timber glacier]

storm weaver will be overhauled in the rainworm update not to be confused with the brainstorm update

[bright phoenix]

Everything on screen is either a minion or pet ^

[raven brook]

the fact everyone thought it was just some random animal when there's literal ingame lore (not dev statements btw) implying a more direct connection between it and devourer (with devourer fucking hating it at that, uncharacteristically so) and putting everything together implies storm weaver is a prototype devourer that likely broke off noxus's hive mind and is a may or may not have old lore DoG absorption powers

[magic epoch]

the brainworm update 🤔

[raven brook]

literally nobody paid attention to this until i brought it up btw

im the prophet

the messiah of the great weavification

i brought the Weaver Theory to the table

[timber glacier]

clearly you are the first believer of hte weaever

[bright phoenix]

Even before lore rework weaver has always been connected most directly to dog, previously as a member of the same species and basically his son

Which I thought was cool

[raven brook]

yeah in old lore weaver was his son

[bright phoenix]

Now dog fucking HATES HIM!!!

[raven brook]

now he hates him

dog hates weaver

hates his ass

#1 weaver hater

[bright phoenix]

Because fuck that guy (dog)

[timber glacier]

dog is such an awful and abusive parent now smh we gotta cancel him

[bright phoenix]

Get this Nameless Serpent outta my sight

[raven brook]

its ok weaver can be my son instead

im a much better mother than whatever dog would be

[bright phoenix]

Snakes are very sweet pets when you get to know em

[timber glacier]

make sure to feed him a wyvern a day otherwise he may get hangry and cause disastrous storms

[raven brook]

i hope after you beat signus you can meet him in his crib on the distortion

i think there were plans for a deal mechanic with a signus npc lol or something

dont quote me on that

after you beat him you can just talk with him to make Deals

[timber glacier]

he just has a house in there with like a hammock hes chilling in

[bright phoenix]

He's actually the dealer in the poker mini game that comes with the new gambling update

[raven brook]

Signus would be a good poker dealer ur right

[timber glacier]

he would let you wager like your soul on like the poker I feel

[raven brook]

yep

like that one jojo

yep .

[timber glacier]

he'd be like the devil from cuphead and wager the entire casino fi you wager your soul

[agile matrix]

Pacts and its just the bindings from i think pre-BH

[light linden]

bh?

[agile matrix]

bountiful harvest

also it was post from the ashes

[timber glacier]

are you talking about the curse things for the boss rush with the bindings

[agile matrix]

mhm

[timber glacier]

those were weird things to be config settings of all things cos like why

[agile matrix]

"hey man im gonna rip off your wings. however, if you defeat this Gravita Magnus without your wings, im gonna give you some REALLY cool wings"

[timber glacier]

wait hold on signus giving us challenges could be hype

[agile matrix]

i gotta draw out my distortion idea

or write it out. either or

[noble falcon]

When are we gonna meet the auric dragon of mascot horror

[timber glacier]

when are we gonna go to yheddy yhazzbear's pizzaria

[noble falcon]

Five Nights At Yharon’s
He’s asleep, just pray to the great xeroc in the sky that you don’t bump a table or close a door too loud while you’re working lest he wake up

You will get fired in more ways than one

[warm gull]

top 1 bad moderator

[timber glacier]

what

[split mortar]

@raven brook

[timber glacier]

oh

[pulsar ocean]

Swag

Messiah

[full osprey]

Will xeroc become a playable character?

[split mortar]

When have they made other playable characters, how would they even do that in terraria and no they will not make xeroc a playable character

[wanton pendant]

No?

[full osprey]

My bad I meant boss🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[timber glacier]

He is planned to eventually be a post-game superboss but its not guaranteed

[split mortar]

Yeah if calamity survives that far
Yharim, noxus and xeroc are the only planned bosses with yharim as final boss and the other two as post game superbosses

[full osprey]

Fym “if calamity survives that far”😭🙏🏾

[heavy sail]

oh man imagine if... okay have any of you guys played silksong?

[split mortar]

Its many years away at best so the devs could just lose motivation and leave

[split mortar]

Played but have not beat the final boss and avoided spoilers on the ending

[full osprey]

Fairs

[pulsar ocean]

devs have decided that before we get any more new boss content they have to rework literally everything in the game

including vanilla bosses

so we might just not survive as a species before the ml rework

[full osprey]

Damn

[split mortar]

Yup

[pulsar ocean]

would be simpler to js make a calamity game atp

calamity... game....

[split mortar]

Reign of yharim

[pulsar ocean]

thats what i was vaguely referencing for dramatic effect

[split mortar]

Ik

[heavy sail]

(silksong "default" ending spoilers) you know how ||when hornet is binding grand mother silk's crest, the UI gets increasingly elaborate?||
that's what i imagine ||someone like xeroc's terrartia stat bars look like||

[pulsar ocean]

yes i beat the true ending

[pulsar ocean]

imagine if someone makes an addon where you can merge with an auric soul

and god is an entirely new class

doesnt have to be realistic doesnt have to be only yharon

[heavy sail]

anyway i... can see the frustration with the Great Reworking. and part of me worries that it might be like... the devs being intimidated at the idea of finally adding the yharim and xeroc battles and such. because the pressure is on for them to be really good, or else people will complain about waiting a very long time for something underwhelming

but i'm willing to be patient. not just because i'm a hollow knight fan and waiting is one of my favorite hobbies

but because i both love the mod as it is now, and i like the reworks

[cloud ibex]

one of the reasons cited for wanting to rework everything before getting to yharim is so that everything else will basically be practice

[heavy sail]

and smaller things, like just getting cool new furniture

[cloud ibex]

imagine if they had to do a yharim rework because they added him now and found out years later "this sucks actually"

[heavy sail]

...seems like they already feel that way about a lot of calamity bosses

like maybe they don't think they suck exactly, but there's so much they've been wanting to do for a really long time

[cloud ibex]

no they do think a lot of the bosses suck at the moment

courtesy of One Guy being the sole person whose opinion on boss fights mattered for the first almost nine years of the mod's lifespan

[heavy sail]

well, in that case, i think they're being too hard on themselves.
-# except for ceaseless void. i hate ceaseless void

[cloud ibex]

cue that one screenshot of ein giving a solid couple paragraphs of detailed, thorough feedback on the destroyer and the horse responding "i can't be bothered to read that"

[heavy sail]

actually honestly, i dunno if i hate ceaseless void or if i just really suck at fighting

[cloud ibex]

they're not being hard on themselves they're being hard on fabsol

for as long as he was on the mod, he was the only guy who did boss changes Ever

[heavy sail]

ooh. i can feel the exasperation the devs must've felt in my bones

[cloud ibex]

any change about a boss fight would have to go through him first, and if he disagreed with the change (or simply didn't like whoever suggested it) it just wouldn't happen

there are two (2) examples i can think of while he was in charge where someone else did something notable for a boss in terms of the actual fight, and that's the very first iterations of hive mind plus the current version of scal's brothers

[heavy sail]

ibanplay's designs for them? hell yeah, i love them

[cloud ibex]

no not their designs, the way they attack

[heavy sail]

ohh

[cloud ibex]

to my knowledge the only way he really had an impact on the visual designs of bosses was if a potential redesign would necessitate changing the boss' behavior

[heavy sail]

confession: i've only gotten to scal in one playthrough and i lasted about one minute. i'm a fake fan
feel free to throw rocks at me

[cloud ibex]

probably the worst offender in that regard is Old Duke, whose existence started as a secret meme fishron reskin who dropped ten treasure bags but that slowly got scope crept into a fully fledged boss fight, against the wishes of pretty much everyone else on the team

[young socket]

throws rocks at you

[young socket]

wasnt it just three bags

[cloud ibex]

it went from "haha wouldn't it be funny if there was a sulphur fishron who dropped a shitton of bags" to "he can have a few extra attacks, as a treat" to "well it would be a shame if he didn't get any unique loot" to "if any of you disagree with this entirely new boss being added you can eat shit and die"

[cloud ibex]

[young socket]

but yea old duke was originally gonna be a secret version of duke who was harder but dropped more bags

which got scope crept into a new boss with unique attacks

because yeah.

[cloud ibex]

or maybe the whole master debacle, where even fab himself years ago said he wouldn't do master changes because it would be a waste of time

[young socket]

the original idea of od wasnt even bad

[cloud ibex]

only to change his mind in bountiful harvest because, and this is coming from himself because i asked him directly, he got bored

[young socket]

like ofc a more dangerous ocean biome would also mean a harder fishron could live there

[cloud ibex]

and that blessed the world with the existence of master skeleton prime

[young socket]

master sprime is so funny

[heavy sail]

i do quite like the idea of Fish but Old

[raven brook]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-blank-stare-gif-11624944067455900929

[split mortar]

Explodes you

[raven brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1242176822418997328/1359999866323079239/cheese_code.gif

[wheat walrus]

@raven brook top 1 GOOD moderator

[raven brook]

top 1 neutral moderator

[bright phoenix]

Now this is awesome

[noble falcon]

Previously, he was the Auric Dragon of Nothing In Particular, until one fateful day when he volunteered to test a new performer suit made by the Auric Dragon of Pizzeria

[bright phoenix]

🗣️ 🔥 🔥 this is real lore discussions

[pulsar ocean]

Duke’s pretty old

[bright phoenix]

Also wtf is Reign of Yharim

First thing I see looking it up: Jacob Bryson son of Yharim first and final boss 😭 ☠️

[split mortar]

Calamity metroidvania fangame in very early development

[split mortar]

Thatsdidhdkdbno. No

[bright phoenix]

Ooh that sounds cool actually

[noble falcon]

Samus would totally win calamity

She doesn’t even need to spend an accessory slot on shoes, she’s already got the speed booster

[bright phoenix]

Oh this is fandom wiki and one of the bosses is called "Wulfrum pear" and has a stock photo of a pear with the description "evil pear. Kill it now"

My bad

SKIBIDI WULFRUM BOSS?

https://calamityreign-of-yharim.fandom.com/wiki/Bosses

[split mortar]

Id suggest going to their server in #other-discords message for real actual info

[split mortar]

P sure that wiki appeared randomly without dev input and so got vandalised beyond hell and back

[bright phoenix]

Never trust a fandom wiki

Thanks lmaooo

[noble falcon]

Hang on
This could be hype

[bright phoenix]

I can't wait to fight Edwin, Creator of the Mimic

[split mortar]

@raven brook roy

[bright phoenix]

(It was difficult to put the pieces together)

[raven brook]

Reign of Yharim

[raven brook]

OH MY FUCKING GOD

YOU FOUND THE SHITPOST FANDOM WIKI

[bright phoenix]

First thing that came up when I googled it 😭 😭

[raven brook]

ake sure ot join the hit discord server for hit fangame in #other-discords for TRUE adn REAL information

[bright phoenix]

Well, 2nd

[bright phoenix]

Awesome, Ty

[split mortar]

@raven brook is a dev for the mod iirc

@raven brook whats your role in the roy ecosystem

[raven brook]

Did you just call it a mod LOL

but im the co-owner

i code

and write

and do otheer things

[split mortar]

Mods empty files to be filled so yes it is

[noble falcon]

Yharim will get killed and replaced by the true final boss of all Metroidvanias
This enemy is, who else, Massive Moss Charger

[mighty zenith]

cant wait to fight the sun in another metroidvania

[bright phoenix]

Truly a fitting end to such a story

[noble falcon]

Oh far from it
The entire fangame is a simulation being run by the long-forgotten Auric Dragon of Metroidvanias, who is the true final boss you get for 100% completion

[bright phoenix]

LOL

[noble falcon]

The idea that there’s a dragon for every minuscule little thing in the world is really funny to me

[bright phoenix]

Don't forget the fact that when you absorb their souls in an imperfect ascension ceremony you become a god of something tangentially related

[noble falcon]

When a dude absorbed the metroidvania auric soul, he only got the -vania half and became Dracula

[bright phoenix]

Auric Dragon of Mascot Horror -> God of Fnaf

[bright phoenix]

Incredible

[long bloom]

dragon of Lego Piece 26047 Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Bar Handle

[bright phoenix]

And that's how Markiplier was made

[noble falcon]

One would think the auric Lego dragons would overrun the planet but no, they were all Lego sized and lived in one big ant colony

[long bloom]

[raven brook]

just gotta wait for the roy dlc in 50 years

💖

[mighty zenith]

something something yharim joke

[noble falcon]

Recent studies have uncovered ancient texts referencing an Auric Dragon of Yharims, which has baffled many historical experts and Yharim alike

[bright phoenix]

Unrelated but I was makin a latte jus now and there's no MILK in my fridge am I cooked

I need the auric dragon of coffee to help me immediately

[noble falcon]

He will charge you 25 gold for a single k-cup, he’s the last dude you want to help you with that

[bright phoenix]

NOOO

[raven brook]

which comes out first

reign of yharim demo or yharim in calamity

place your bets

[mighty zenith]

Yharim friday night funkin mod

[raven brook]

youre true

[bright phoenix]

I think I saw a calamity related fnf mod like 6 years ago

[split mortar]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[bright phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid4-mgs4-solid-snake-old-snake-becoming-old-gif-24179307

[split mortar]

@mighty zenith explain

[noble falcon]

There could be no such thing

[bright phoenix]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9qiHqJ8EaOg&ra=m

Sorry bud

Vs D.O.G

[mighty zenith]

why does he look like that

[noble falcon]

Well I’ll be

[bright phoenix]

I don't know LOL

[noble falcon]

Shrunk in the Exo-Washing Machine

[mighty zenith]

unfortunate

i commented on this like 3 years ago apparently

i do not remember that happening

[bright phoenix]

Lmfao

[wanton pendant]

What's stranger is that he was slain by the one who became the God of Human Rights.

[pulsar ocean]

Entire world in nuclear flames or yharim gets added to calamity mod

[raven brook]

fortnite or babigi

[heavy sail]

i would worship that dragon

[noble falcon]

The world is in great peril right now, as the Dragon of Live Service Development Cycles has resurfaced after many years in hiding

[agile matrix]

the dragon of "IM KILLING YOU YOU ARE DYING NOW I AM THE KILLER AND YOU ARE DIE THE KILLING NOW" is shockingly well behaved recently and has recently been donating clothes to a homeless shelter

[wanton pendant]

Not if the Dragon of Mercy has anything to say about it, who has currently eaten every adult in this village, and turned all of the children into a sweater.

[noble falcon]

His alternative in this scenario was to nuke the entire countryside into one big burnt mess no life can ever touch again, so him not doing that is actually quite merciful

[light linden]

random thought, does auric have any use outside of weaponry and armor?

[long bloom]

golfing

[light linden]

I meant lore wise

[long bloom]

kai cenat

[wanton pendant]

Not sure what else it could have. It's really racist metal, not much else to it that we know.

[pulsar ocean]

Toilet

[raven brook]

this is awesome without context

you can use auric for kai cenat in the lore

❤️‍🩹

[long bloom]

this is true

[bright phoenix]

auric toilet

[hoary cape]

Auric Cenat

[west plume]

the dragon cult apparently didnt have this one in inventory until exactly the day before yharim was born

[young socket]

yharon never told yharim about the dragon of yharim because he thought it would be awkward to try to explain to him about this minor dragon that only like 20 dragons knew of and not many other people and didnt have an attunee and it would be so weird to try and bring it up right now since he did such a cool entrance and he was so confident in his new name oh god

[wanton pendant]

"And from the ashes... I am born anew... I am... Yharim."
"...are you sure?"
"Why? You know, it's after your name."
"Uh... you see... no, no it's... it's fine."

[noble falcon]

(Meanwhile, in the aerie aepartments, the news plays) “And in a shocking turn of events, Yharon has rebirthed once more, bringing a new friend along with him, who appears to go by Yharim.”
“HIS NAME IS WHAT?!”

[magic epoch]

lame. i actually PLAYED the mod. it was so peak back when i was a stupider chud

[plucky juniper]

dragon of the dragon's dogma

[agile matrix]

i like to imagine the dragon of yharim is a really heavy sleeper so when he heard this they rose from their bed like dracula

[raven brook]

dragon of the komodo

[timber glacier]

Dragon of cheese

[agile matrix]

dragon of the mental and not yet physical concept of flying hovercars

[noble falcon]

Was fatally bitten by a lihzahrd warrior in battle, who was then cursed into a more primitive form with ancient magics as a final vengeance, which we now know today by a similar name

[noble falcon]

Though many may think the dragon of cheese to be a delicious flying dinner creature, in truth it is a deceptive and despised beast, known for winning battles by exploiting the environment and enemy in unexpected ways

[pulsar ocean]

So how is yharon coming back going to be explained

[timber glacier]

Like do you mean how he does it or what will happen when he comes back

[pulsar ocean]

the first option

Usually it would take around 10 years

And some more for him to grow

[timber glacier]

Yeah and like whats the issue?

[pulsar ocean]

I’m like pretty certain they’re gonna bring back yharon reviving in his second phase in his eventual rework

[wanton pendant]

He locks in and realizes his power lets him do more than turn dead bodies into babies.

It's been thousands of years and he only just figured that out.

He's kind of stupid.

[pulsar ocean]

If dragons have unlimited stamina in terms of their domain why can’t yharon revive anyone instantly

Is he stupid

[wanton pendant]

It's infinite ammo, it doesn't make the gun better.

[pulsar ocean]

would calamitas be a better necromancer than yharon if she absorbed his soul

[wanton pendant]

She's already a better necromancer than Yharon.

Yharon doesn't do necromancy.

[pulsar ocean]

same fucking thing

brings back the dead

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas can make puppets using dead bodies.
Yharon can turn dead bodies into babies.

Very different.

[magic epoch]

they both bring back the dead but in different ways

[split mortar]

Yharom has been doing it a minimum of 2K years idt a couple decades of experience with a shitty replica of that magic will be good

[magic epoch]

its like saying that cooking and constructing are the same things because they can both be described as "making"

[pulsar ocean]

Yharon has been doing this for 2k years and hasn’t improved

shit still takes him 20 years

[eager bluff]

how do you know he hasnt improved

[split mortar]

Maybe yharon reached the max skill very quickly

[wanton pendant]

The ten years thing is probably more so the fact that he turns into a baby and not the impotency of his domain.

Like, it's called ReBIRTH, not Re-start-as-a-middle-aged-man.

[split mortar]

Also a possibility we dunno what parts of yharons rebirth can be influenced by the domain

[pulsar ocean]

Okay where’s the time dragon at why can’t we speed this up

surely there would be a time dragon

[wanton pendant]

Time Dragon died to the Star Dragon.

Turns out they had very similar powers.

[split mortar]

Hmmmm

[pulsar ocean]

Is the world soul also racist
is that why no one but the dragons coincidentally found EVERY piece of the world soul

[wanton pendant]

Other things probably found shards too, but dragons are racist so they don't count.
Auric Gecko also doesn't have the same ring to it.

[strong compass]

WHAT

oh nvm this is lore discussion

[magic epoch]

might be bias

[icy veldt]

But cooking a building is, in some sense, a way of undoing its construction

[frosty charm]

Is Yharim's sword magic or special in any way or is it just a big ass sword

Second option would be kinda tuff

[long bloom]

we know literally nothing about it

except that the blade isn't auric

that's it

[frosty charm]

We know that it's pretty red

[long bloom]

that design is super super outdated

[frosty charm]

Ermm his Yomi mod is officially backed

[zenith geode]

well a sword used by yharim is bound to be at least pretty cool

[west plume]

it is a blade that has felled many gods. i can tell you that much

[zenith geode]

see its at the very least pretty cool

[noble falcon]

We’ll see how cool it is when I show up with my copper shortsword

[west plume]

how many gods has your shortsword felled

[noble falcon]

All of them
Even the ones he killed already
Got them too

[feral skiff]

its because my copper shortsword is incremental and levels up whenever i beat an enemy

soon i’ll be able to beat Xeroc because my sword is LVL 9999

[magic epoch]

good luck finding them

[timber glacier]

Since Full-on references in game are considered non-canon to the lore, are like things that are meant to be referencing something else but aren’t literally what their referencing, such as the Terragrim being a reference to the sword Crissaegrim from the 1997 action role-playing platformer game Castlevania: Symphony of the Night but not literally being it, considered canon or no?

[long bloom]

i think that's fine

[timber glacier]

It does bring some items canonicity into a dubious state cos like the phaseblades are basically just light sabers but aren’t literally called them, and like the keybrand is basically the keyblade from kingdom hearts but like isn’t quite exactly it

[noble falcon]

I would think for it to count, it would have to be the same specific thing
Like, the portal gun and companion cube aren’t canon, but the keybrand is

[long bloom]

well mothron still isn't canon despite the name being different

so idk

[timber glacier]

Yeah the line of where it goes from non-canon due to being a reference vs canon since its not too much of a direct reference is a bit blurry

Albeit i do feel a but weird that mothron is just non-canon despite how she is kind of her own thing apart from mothra, and like moon lord is still canon despite very clearly being closely based on Cthulhu so idk

Also wait would hammush be considered canon since its a direct reference to the webcomic The Legend of Max, but that webcomic is about terraria so like its not from like an entirely different thing

Also like it as an item doesn’t really neccesitate the webcomic being canon it can very easily just be canonically a mushroom hammer

[bleak hare]

Isnt the murasama cannon though i thought it was designed by draedon no?

[timber glacier]

No? Murasama is definitely not canon

[bronze lynx]

i assume the hammush is canon, but not the contents of the comic (as in the hammer made of mushrooms sold by the truffle is all that's canon, and nothing else)

[timber glacier]

Yeah thats probably generally how some of the stuff could be seen as canon if it isn’t like innately tied to the thing its referencing, like hammush can just be a random mushroom hammer and not be in reference to the webcomic

[bronze lynx]

maybe in a similar sense murasama is canon, but only the part where it exists within the lab and can be used after DoG

[pulsar ocean]

is the true copper shortsword canon

[timber glacier]

Well have you ever gotten it in calamity?

I didn’t think so

So not canon

[real glen]

Not canon until 1.4.5 tmod release

[noble falcon]

Yeah, we can all agree that for an item to be canon in calamity, you have to be able to get it in calamity

[timber glacier]

I guess yharim isn’t canon yet since we can’t get him in game yet

[noble falcon]

Not an item

Don’t count

Unless of course Yharim drops the Yharim pickup, in which case, the story may be boned due to the bad guy not actually existing

[timber glacier]

Well there are items in calamity dropped by each boss with their exact names (the lore/whispers) so uhhh yeah yharim mustn’t be canon

[split mortar]

Some old version of the lore gave it reason to exist but not the current continuity

[soft flame]

it used to be referred to in a draedon log entry but that’s gone now

reference items in general aren’t cannon

[vivid cloud]

If he was an NPC, we could catch and acquire him with the Lavaproof Bug Net. Then he'd be canon.

[full osprey]

Who controls the boss rush

[vivid cloud]

Xeroc, my friend.

[feral skiff]

why does Xeroc make one appearance throughout the entire mod

[timber glacier]

I dunno thats a fargo’s mutant mod thing so it’d be non canon
If he was a critter however then yes

[feral skiff]

isnt he. literally the strongest

[timber glacier]

The real reason is just that the mod’s unfinished

[vivid cloud]

Oh, I didn't even know that😂

[full osprey]

Wait who’s he?

[vivid cloud]

Xeroc?
The man, the myth, the legend?
The guy who used a dragon's soul to become God?

And is now hated by both Godseeker and Phoenix alike?

[vivid cloud]

Hold up, you know what YOU should read?
Lore document. I'll put it in real quick.

@full osprey, there you go.

[sacred pilot]

That's uhhh.

[split mortar]

Because the other appearances are yet to be added

[sacred pilot]

Vile from MMX right?

Forgot which game exactly though.

[timber glacier]

Thats just the lore references theres a more proper lore explaining document
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LKTHNV3OpIQ88dozfzQhTvEylV1qzzwQeAsW77wf74c/edit?usp=drivesdk
this document gives an introductory general guide to calamity lore

[feral skiff]

oh ok

[split mortar]

And not even draedon knows he exists, very elusive

[feral skiff]

i forgot about that part

[vivid cloud]

YESSIR.
Specifically, this is Vile Mk-II from Mega Man X3.

[sacred pilot]

God I should play the MMX games.

[vivid cloud]

He was revived by Dr. Doppler, and I haven't played that game yet.
I ragequit on two of the games😭

[vivid cloud]

You should. Peak content.
Though it is ragebait worthy, as all Mega Man games tend to be🥲

[vivid cloud]

Oh, thanks.
I didn't see that.

[mighty zenith]

MMX3 is so, so much easier than X2

X2 drove me to insanity

[vivid cloud]

Oh, for real?
I've only played X and X4, and didn't finish either of them.
Is X3 easier than X4?

[mighty zenith]

X4 is easier, though i've only played zero's story atm

[vivid cloud]

Same, I'm stuck on Colonel😭

[mighty zenith]

i was stuck on jet stingray for ages

[vivid cloud]

Real, though.

[mighty zenith]

but everything was super easy after that

the bosses in general suffer from being completely useless if you have their weakness

[vivid cloud]

For real.

The Boss Guide is OP.

[vivid cloud]

Fighting the bosses is my favorite part of the games for some reason.
Like the stage bosses.

[mighty zenith]

X3 has the most fun bosses of the first four imo

X2 has the zero fight which i REALLY like but you have to fight two of the worst bosses in the game right after

[vivid cloud]

People hated on Mega Man X4 music, saying that it all sounds the same😭

[vivid cloud]

Interesting.

[full osprey]

You da goat

[vivid cloud]

Thanks, bro.
Also, read the one Quinn sent.

[full osprey]

That’s a long document

Love though

[stark flame]

Which settings of the player have already been determined?

[raven brook]

they name the mechs and miracle matter

[timber glacier]

Like if you mean if theres any canon lore for the terrarian then the terrarian is entirely up to you to decide

[raven brook]

that's kinda it

[stark flame]

[raven brook]

though some things are easy to intuite assuming you like. play the game normally and not do some weird challenge run

[timber glacier]

Also for some reason nows how to make some weird things to know how to make

[raven brook]

they're a good craftsman/blacksmith

since you make so much sbit

id say also theyre a good architect but thats kind of assuming you build something that isnt a wooden box which i think alot of players wouldnt do so

[timber glacier]

They also must have really long arms cos they can place stuff like several blocks away somehow

[raven brook]

😭

[stark flame]

Huh?

[raven brook]

i assume theyre joking

[stark flame]

[timber glacier]

Yes that was a joke

Like obviously thats just gameplay and not canon

Also they’re like 5 and a half feet tall (idk how feet work I don’t use freedom units)

[raven brook]

bbut yeah basically anything in regards to your backstory and goals and personality beyond the aforementioned naming the mechs

is not established

[feral skiff]

worldbuilders if they used meters for character height instead of feet: (they’re all doomed)

[timber glacier]

Also wait how does the terrarian know how to even do stuff like trickimg auric ore using yharon soul fragments like why do they know that’d work

[feral skiff]

honestly idk

i would say draedon.. maybe???

no wait but you have to fight exo mechs before actually communicating with him

[timber glacier]

Yeah like maybe the “canon” reason they know is like maybe yharim told the, through the whispers even though we never see it

[feral skiff]

also maybe its a natural property of yharon soul fragments to “pacify” auric ore

so maybe the terrarian experimented around and was like “hey this doesnt kill me anymore”

[timber glacier]

The terrarian knowing how to smith with materials made of the world soul and racist gold, but being unable to make a simple golf club or something on their own is kind of funny

[split mortar]

Good question

[feral skiff]

if i killed a dragon and got two funny-looking materials from him, of course i would try mashing them together

[timber glacier]

Also can’t they like make the mark of providence on their own for some reason like why do they know how 2 do that

Also the terrarian also is seemingly really good at carpentry like they can make so much furniture

[split mortar]

Mark of providence is likely to get shot in the future i think

[timber glacier]

Well I guess yeah but its still notable rn at least

Also the terrarian also knows how to make mini-nukes which like why do they know that

[feral skiff]

Auric is near impossible to work with without being attuned to a Dragon or using the claimed soul of a Dragon to perform a "mock" attunement.

sea king quote

so it seems like you use the souls to preform a mock attunement somehow in someway

[graceful sundial]

hello again i got new question. Is there somewhere explained in lore why killing guide/guide voodo dool in underworld lava awaking wall of flesh?

[crude musk]

The guide bestiary

Here

[timber glacier]

Hi mr breast

Hows it hanging mr beast

[bitter cave]

Omagah mr bees

Pls give money

[timber glacier]

What does mr beast have to do with cal lore

[graceful sundial]

thanks

[wanton pendant]

It recognizes the soul of its master.

[bitter cave]

Mr beast funds draedons tech

[graceful sundial]

i thought idf does

[timber glacier]

Wait hold on that aint mr beast

Why is it not mr beast

[raven brook]

yeah i like to think it was just done through experimenting

[raven brook]

I think the question was less how it works and more how the terrarian figured out how to do so

[limpid saddle]

imagining trying to pick up a chunk of auric ore with smithing pliers & it vibrates violently as it attempts to reject & slowly melt them

[crude musk]

I think the shock would just travel through the pliers into your hands

[limpid saddle]

we have gloves for that dummy

[crude musk]

What if it's magic electricity

[wanton pendant]

Magic rubber.

[vivid cloud]

Suddenly I like him now.

[vivid cloud]

Someone's not worthy🫢

[bright phoenix]

thank you

[full osprey]

Is it crazy to say the brimstone elemental might be a corrupted version of silva

[split mortar]

Yes, because brimmy is the heat/fire elemental not the nature elemental

[full osprey]

But in the document and in lore her origins are never stated

[wanton pendant]

Yes, as they are two different people.

Who are both alive at the same time.

[full osprey]

We don’t know where brimmy is from

[split mortar]

And other things like brimmy being dormant in azafure while silva does things like god ascend

[wanton pendant]

And right next to each other geographically.

[split mortar]

She is an elemental, the same as any other elemental
Which we dunno the actual way they come to exist

Yharim would have also minced brimmy early on if she was silva

Because silva is the goddess of life

[split mortar]

We also know silva is in the abyss and helps us even if subtly

[raven brook]

silva and brimmy are 100% separate

[split mortar]

Since yharim drops her in there

[raven brook]

the origins of all elementals are largely unknown, and absence of evidence isnt evidence of absence

or however the saying goes.

[wanton pendant]

We don't know where Permafrost and Yharim are from, so they clearly could be the same person. What other lies is that old man telling us?

[full osprey]

But the abyss is directly above the crags

And in the doc it’s states silva is an elemental

[split mortar]

And brimmy was in azafure when she was dropped in the abyss

[wanton pendant]

Yes, just like Anahita. Who is another different person.

[split mortar]

They are in separate places at the same time

[wanton pendant]

And the Brimstone Elemental is IN the Crags.

[raven brook]

We know for a fact Brimmy and Silva both existed at the same time

[mighty zenith]

silva is in the abyss while you fight brimmy

[raven brook]

And they're both different elementals representing different elements

[mighty zenith]

and she exists in the abyss after you beat brimmy

[split mortar]

Brimmy until woken up has been in the centre of azafure for centuries
In that time of doing fuck all in the centre silva has ascended and blessed braelor and been thrown in the abyss for a third time and blessed jared

The events do not line up

And again yharim would have minced brimmy if she was silva

[full osprey]

You make a point

Actually you’re right

Also the guide used to live in azafure?

He helped in making the wall of flesh

[raven brook]

Yeh

[full osprey]

Damn

Bro how old is this guy

[split mortar]

Probably in his late 80s if he helped make wof

[long bloom]

azafure was only destroyed like 20 years ago max

[wanton pendant]

Azafure was taken down around 16 years ago.

Impromptu demolition.

[full osprey]

Oh right

[pulsar ocean]

what if calamity mod is just old man yharim's hallucination on his deathbed

[hoary cape]

back in my day... okay grandpa lets get you back to bed

[magic epoch]

yharon is just his old childhood dragon plush

like calvin and hobbes

[sacred pilot]

If he is while still looking surprisingly young then he probably has some weird demonic magic keeping his youth.

Even his shimmered form looks like some dude who is at most in his early 50's.

[wanton pendant]

Why would it be demonic magic?

He's a human.

[raven brook]

i mean he can have demonic magic without being a human

silva is jane life magic. people who arent elementals also can do life magic

wwg you should be less snarky towards people when it comes to the lore

[wanton pendant]

I wasn't trying to be snarky.

[sacred pilot]

I don't think he was being snarky.

I simply thought "demonic magic" due to him being a sacred figure in Demon religion.

[raven brook]

Yeah but you generally just kinda are alot of the time

ex: a while back with the yt video

[wheat walrus]

wuwugee

[wanton pendant]

Why do you torment me so, oh spirit?

[wheat walrus]

wuwugee

if i truly am but a spirit; a chimera, you should be able to transcend such "torment"

wuwugee

[split mortar]

I think we should balance a stack of 3 ostrich eggs on mold chimera

[wheat walrus]

bet

[pulsar ocean]

I’m the product of an artist who’s creations bring delight

[strong valve]

🐟 🐅 😔 😔 😔 🤤 🤣 😂 🤣 🐅 🐟 🤣 🤣 🤣 🐯 😂

[icy veldt]

Who is creations

[pulsar ocean]

🤓

[icy veldt]

If the mechanical bosses had the souls of Yharim's soldiers put into them when they were built, then can souls be put into any object, or just machines, or do machines need to be specially designed to contain souls?

[eager bluff]

with enough fuckery they can be put into anything

[long bloom]

probably just anything i think

souls are used in a lot of weapon recipes

the machine part just helps in automating murder

[icy veldt]

Oh yeah true, I had forgotten about that

Soul toilet

[long bloom]

a hallowed throne that's like. an actual throne would go very hard

[cloud ibex]

i'd wager a guess you can shove souls into pretty much anything, but for the soul to actually be in control as is i think the case for the mechs you'd have to specifically design it so

[long bloom]

that makes sense

[icy veldt]

That makes it even better

Making miniature soyjak figurines and putting people's souls into them would go hard

[pulsar ocean]

why does the auric rebuke effect exist on anything made from the ingots

[cloud ibex]

funny

probably

[long bloom]

oversight

[cloud ibex]

or that

[split mortar]

Maybe some spell can force the rebuke to happen despite the mock attunement

[long bloom]

that would be insanely overpowered

why did it autocorrect to overpriced i never type that 😭

[split mortar]

How so, just say it is not precise enough to be viable on armour

[long bloom]

you could still just like. enchant the bars and throw them at people

auric grenades

[raven brook]

Thats badass

[split mortar]

Thats not overpowered though

[long bloom]

auric rejection is the "fuck you die" button

[raven brook]

I mean not really

[split mortar]

Yes cause that worked on braelor

[raven brook]

You dont instantly die from touvhing auric ore

[long bloom]

he's like. top 1% of people

[split mortar]

Also true it does not insta kill us

[long bloom]

you're also top 1% of people

[raven brook]

It just damages you and sends you flying away

Ok well its the same for npcs

[split mortar]

THE ENTIRE TIER WHERE AURIC GEAR IS USED IS TOP 0.00001% OF PEOPLE

[raven brook]

As long as your contsct with auric isnt prolonged its just a damage source

[split mortar]

Like wow the strongest material in calamity is strong
Fork found in kitchen

[raven brook]

Like snything else

[long bloom]

calamitas isn't that physically strong and exos are just made of stronger cosmilite

[raven brook]

Throwing a lava bomb and a auric grenade at someone wouldnt be meaningfully different

[split mortar]

The exos are made of the second strongest materisl in the setting i do not get your point

And calamitas has a shield in the fight

They are right behind yharim in power who has normal auric i do not see him obliterating the bosses

Like yeah auric is strong but
Thats
The point
And its not gonna be absurd by the tier auric is used in game

[raven brook]

Yeah auric isnt really a guaranteed win
Part of why yharim's rejection is so strong is because of how he applies iy

An suit of auric armor makes melee combat very risky

At best

And impossible at worst

[long bloom]

they still have less health than yharon individually except thanatos

[split mortar]

What is your point

[raven brook]

Depending on your gear or techniqur

[split mortar]

Like
The auric is a bit more dangerous due to rebuke
This is not enough to make scal and exos trivial lore wise

[long bloom]

i never said trivial 😭

it would still be a pretty big upgrade

[eager bluff]

auric is strong and it would be an upgrade but its essentially just strapping reusable impact grenades to yourself

[young socket]

guys

[raven brook]

I dont even get what the disagreemrnt is ngl

[split mortar]

I was never denying that, i was denying it being overpowered

[young socket]

auric rebuke is already inflicted by weapons in game

[raven brook]

Yes tsuki

We r aware of this

Its what started the convo

[long bloom]

i'm saying that probably shouldn't be a thing lorewise

[split mortar]

Tsuki thats what started this conversation

[raven brook]

Itd be insanely lame for them not to inflict it

So jusr like

Find a excuse in terms of lore and ur good

What melon said

[long bloom]

yes. the point of mock attunement is that it makes your auric lamer than yharim's

[split mortar]

Also like the bars are still shown exerting energy in the sprite so idt auric is completely incapable of having its energy used

[raven brook]

Not talking about lore

[eager bluff]

it can still be lamer

our shit can still be absolutely worse than yharims even if our stuff can auric reject things too

[long bloom]

explain a solution that isn't super clunky

[eager bluff]

bullshit something about mock attunement not nullifying rejection but inhibiting it

[raven brook]

It is a endgame electric debuff themed around auric and then u dont hsve the endgame auric weapons inflict it

Remember

Gameplay > lore

[split mortar]

Theres ways to manually activate rejection or drain the energy other ways

[raven brook]

Ideally you want to make them work in perfect tandem

But in cases like this

[split mortar]

-# which is why i do not get why some people seem to think gameplay is completely non canon

[raven brook]

Adjust the lore to fit it

[west plume]

after u mock attune the auric metal takes on ur specific type of racism. this means the player is racist towards every enemy in the game

[raven brook]

Not the other way around

[young socket]

and the critters,,,,,

[split mortar]

you gotta use a book to turn off your racism to critters so yeah

[raven brook]

I dont think thats what anyone was trying to say in that convi

[wanton pendant]

Yharim totally showed her the auric workout routine she's probably fairly strong.

[long bloom]

whar

[split mortar]

Yeah was bit unrelated sorry

[west plume]

#geteducated

[west plume]

Auric Workout Routine. Be unattuned and do 50 sets of pushups in a full suit of auric knight armor without dying

[wanton pendant]

See, there we have it.

[young socket]

imo we should make terraria hyper realistic

[split mortar]

Imo we should ban tsuki

[long bloom]

🔥

[young socket]

which is why im going to be making a new mod that adds realistic mushroom foraging

if you eat the wrong mushroom, your character DIES and is PERMANENTLY deleted

[split mortar]

You eat a mushroom and have a 1/3 chance of dying in the most painful way possible

[long bloom]

would auric still reject you if you put it on top of other armor

[raven brook]

Yep

[young socket]

also

[raven brook]

Yummers

[young socket]

they all look IDENTICAL

aside from one minor difference

[young socket]

yes

exactly that

[west plume]

it depends on if you are pure of heart or not

[wanton pendant]

If you're pure of heart it kills you.

[eager bluff]

if you're very very racist it doesnt

[long bloom]

true

[icy veldt]

What if your heart is pure evil?

[wanton pendant]

You can wear it.

[split mortar]

That’s called being attuned to yharon

[noble falcon]

Is grim matchstick from cuphead an auric dragon

[long bloom]

yes, he has the domain of animation

[noble falcon]

Thank you for the confirmation
With this, I will now also declare Lord Cinderbottom the Auric Dragon of Peggle

[manic sierra]

so since the cloud elemental summons nimbuses does that angry nimbuses are just small cloud elementals

[wanton pendant]

Maybe?

[split mortar]

Maybe, does cal bestiary say anything about em?

[raven brook]

i can see it actually yeah

[split mortar]

Airnelementlaresprite cool

[noble falcon]

cloud elementals, as in the elemental of a single individual cloud rather than the idea of clouds

[raven brook]

i mean thats pretty normal

you dont call the fire elemental the fires elemental or the water elemental the waters elemental

[long scaffold]

I find it funny that the elemental I had one of the least issues with is the first to get a resprite

at least she has coverings on her unlike some others (Brimmy)

but I digress

[spark kindle]

will the other elementals be getting resprited

[zenith geode]

brimmy is

[spark kindle]

🎉

[split mortar]

I think it was said a while ago all would be but idk the validity of that statement

[spark kindle]

this post was fact checked by real calamity patriots

[bright phoenix]

Have people written calamity mod fanfics

Like

Serious ones

[light linden]

technically a lore dev did

embers

[bright phoenix]

🔥 ok but they're a dev so that's like uhhh

Capcom Devil may cry novels type shit

Schrodinger's canon

Fnaf book levels of canon

[split mortar]

its a what if and also the dev is no longer on the team

[bright phoenix]

Ah

[split mortar]

What if providence won to be exact

So at most it confirms that under really specific circumstances a world ending fire can be made

Which

Is not much to confirm lore wise

[long bloom]

google total calamity

[bright phoenix]

AO3 IS NOT A WHITELISTED LINK

Anyways gg

[split mortar]

Thats a rp tbf

@wanton pendant when you exist

[bright phoenix]

Oh yeah I think I remember that from a while ago

Time to play my favorite game: oh dear god what have people been shipping

Oh god

Who wrote a pepsiman x yharim fanfic

If pepsiman was in calamity mod, would he be the god of Pepsi from absorbing the auric soul from the Dragon of Cola, but he does not possess dominion over Coca Cola for his ascension is imperfect?

[long bloom]

i can see it

[bright phoenix]

It's not worth it, I just looked at the other tags and uh. absolutely not.

💀 ☠️

[long bloom]

reread my message

[bright phoenix]

Oh

I'm sorry

I'm so sorry

[noble falcon]

In the age of auric dragons, Pepsiman was simply Man, and was the closest friend to the Dragon of Pepsi, who ensured no lifeform in all of Terraria went thirsty
When the Pepsi Dragon was slain, before his soul could be claimed, Man killed his assailant, and with his dying breath, the dragon bestowed upon him all the purest powers of Pepsi, transforming him into an emissary of his friend’s selfless soda-delivering mission
The powers also came with his kickass corvette

[bronze lynx]

i mean with the existence of soda the most likely case is that pepsiman is merely an avatar of the god of sodas like how the profaned guardians are to providence

[split mortar]

Whuh
Wdym the guards are avatars of providence

[bronze lynx]

not avatars but like

in a sense they receive power from her

[split mortar]

Blessed people

[bronze lynx]

so pepsiman is just a guardian to a greater god of soda

[split mortar]

I see

[bronze lynx]

which implies that we can all blame the existence of alcoholism in terraria calamity to this greater god of soda

[wanton pendant]

What?

[split mortar]

Talk about fanfic

[wanton pendant]

I'm the fanfic guy now?

[split mortar]

Yes

[heavy zenith]

Fanfic role when

[pulsar ocean]

n\

no

[timber glacier]

yes

[stark flame]

Has Yharim met Xeroc?

[raven brook]

Unknown, but possible

[long bloom]

resounding maybe

[bright phoenix]

🔥 🔥🚗

[pulsar ocean]

will they add new continents with entirely new terrain and bosses