lore-discussion

[mighty zenith]

🔁

[eternal veldt]

Yharon's egg only forms once a decade? I thought it would reform instantly and just hatch after a decade???

[wanton pendant]

It hatches after a decade.

But you don't want to eat half-formed dragon goop.

[magic epoch]

i meant like eating the actual yharon

not eating the egg

[eternal veldt]

Fair enough

[hoary cape]

Yharon is the food source of the KFC

[stark flame]

[feral skiff]

will the yharim boss track be the most fire thing ever?

[leaden bridge]

ehat if it's the most cool thing ever instead

[stark flame]

Is the Goozma we killed its complete form?

Is it possible for him to become even stronger?

[wanton pendant]

Goozma isn't a Calamity character.

[leaden bridge]

It literally is? Smh

It could grow stronger if there somehow were more slimes

Sadly

,

If calmain adds auric slimes it'll unlock the secret auric goozma bossfight

[languid badge]

I like the idea that it exists in the code already it just cant spawn because auric slimes dont exist

[shrewd stream]

hey guys i have an idea, what if we remake slime gods whole thing, instead of him being a pre hardmode boss that dies off as queen slime anticlimatically, he instead becomes a recurring character that tries to enact revenge against us using paladins or powers taken from the different evil biomes and failing every single attempt, it could even bring back things like astralgeldon, being just another paladin made by the slime god using the astral biome to take us down, only for it to fail, then by the endgame, he would show up, rant about how much he hate us, then consume all slimes just to kill us personally with his full potential.

[split mortar]

sounds like extreme scope creep so prob something more befitting to a addon or fangame where they can pick and choose the bosses
not that its bad idea i just highly doubt it will be done in base cal

[leaden bridge]

What if they did everything

[shrewd stream]

everything?

[leaden bridge]

All that exists

[shrewd stream]

the internet?

[leaden bridge]

You're supposed to like, repeat the last thing, you can't just ask an unrelated thing it doesn't work that way

[shrewd stream]

i have no idea what we are talking about

[wanton pendant]

Slime God.

[zenith geode]

god?

[wanton pendant]

Slime!

[zenith geode]

slime?

[young socket]

god.

[wanton pendant]

Slime.

[pulsar ocean]

goozma

[zenith geode]

ma?

[wanton pendant]

Goo...

[zenith geode]

oo?

[cloud ibex]

no

[zenith geode]

o?

[wanton pendant]

Zma!

[noble falcon]

Is yharim the type of guy to buy name brand or off brand breakfast cereals

[wanton pendant]

He has his own brands.

Got to raise funds somehow.

Yharim'os, the only cereal you are legally allowed to buy.

[noble falcon]

The aerie has a huge factory he uses to mass produce cereal as his and Yharon’s primary sustenance
It has to be big since feeding Yharon is like feeding Clifford, you need a town’s worth of food for smth that big

[ornate shadow]

I could go for a good ol bowl of Yharim’os

Except what would it taste like

[wanton pendant]

Potato.

[ornate shadow]

Why potatos

[wanton pendant]

After his favourite food, potatoes on pizza.

[ornate shadow]

Is bro a technoblade fan

[wanton pendant]

Probably.

[split mortar]

Perchance

[ornate shadow]

The dragon aerie has a giant potato farm

[wanton pendant]

💡

New idea on how to kill Yharim.

[ornate shadow]

We burn his potatos

And he becomes blinded by his depression

[wanton pendant]

Someone doesn't know their history.

[ornate shadow]

Enlighten me

[wanton pendant]

So around the 1840s there were massive famines across Europe due to the failure of the potato harvest caused by Blight. Famously affected Ireland particularly hard.

[ornate shadow]

So how does that affect Yharim

[sacred pilot]

Yharim is Irish.

[wanton pendant]

If we infect his potatoes with blight he will starve or move to America.

[topaz viper]

yharim is met with racially charged police brutality

[ornate shadow]

.

since when does bro live on earth

[wanton pendant]

It's Fantasy America.

[pulsar ocean]

does yharon get sad when yharim eats an omelette

[timber glacier]

Probably not unless those are dragon omelettes, and maybe if they were like dragonfolly omelettes or another offshoot since they are auricdragon-adjacent

[west plume]

i'm gonna be real yharon would probably eat a clutch of fried offshoot eggs

[timber glacier]

Wait do we know like which dragons did and did not end up giving birth so some offshoots like we know the storm dragon did? If so like did yharon ever (canonically since there is a donor pet which supposedly is) reproduce and having any descendants

[abstract hedge]

I'm pretty sure the yharon baby pet is non-canon

[timber glacier]

Yeah its donor so non canon

[abstract hedge]

IIRC all donor items are

yeah

[timber glacier]

Well theres actually two yharon baby pets

[abstract hedge]

I don't think Yharon has any descendents but afaik there's no confirmation.

[timber glacier]

One isn’t donor iirc so like it might be canon but idk

[waxen summit]

why donors are not canon

[split mortar]

We dunno if yharon had any children or not
Vetrasyl had wyverns
Frost might have been the origin for fishrons and their related species?

[abstract hedge]

Cause most are references and/or don't mesh with lore.

[west plume]

yharon is a volcel 💔

[split mortar]

Flame might have adopted bone serpents but did not birth them idr gotta re read the bone serpent entry at some point

[timber glacier]

I am actually curious if the ncnuggets son of yharon pet is non-canon cos like it isn’t donor so like idk

[abstract hedge]

Like one of the donor items is literally just rotom

[west plume]

i do not believe that yharon has ever had children and he wouldn't unless they were able to acquire auric souls of their own

he considers non-auric dragons as inherently lesser beings

[timber glacier]

I guess its kind of a reference with the item being mcnuggets and references aren’t canon but the pet itself isn’t an external reference but probably not canon or like idk maybe because of like a one night stand yharon had or something and probably at best a kid yharon doesn’t care about

[split mortar]

Both yharon children are dedicated content iirc

[timber glacier]

I am also curious how much of yharon thinking non-auric are lesser has always been his views and how much the genocide of dragons caused it

[timber glacier]

The mcnuggets page never mentions that

Only akato is dedicated content

[split mortar]

I imagine almost always been the case
Yharon is john auric dragon essentially iirc

[abstract hedge]

Are we really arguing that the mcnuggets item is canon

[timber glacier]

Morseo the pet itself summons if that would be canon

The item itself definitely isn’t canon but like the pet is a bit iffy

[split mortar]

If its not part of the banned item types then uh legit yeah it should be considered canon 😭

[zenith geode]

mcnuggets cannot be canon due to being a reference to a real world brand right

[split mortar]

Uhhhhh

[long bloom]

true

[timber glacier]

The items can’t be but like the pet itself isn’t a reference to external media

[zenith geode]

like most solar eclipse enemies are noncanon due to being references to real world media

[split mortar]

Draedons heart is a canon item and its a reference to armstrongs heart so whats a blatent reference or not is a bit dubious iirc

[timber glacier]

Wait would reaper be canon because it isn’t really a reference to media

[split mortar]

I asked a dev if its canon the answer was yes it is

[timber glacier]

Also since mothron is based on mothra if I remember correctly but like isn’t literally her so like if she’d be canon is also debatable

[abstract hedge]

What item types are banned from being canon other than dedicated content and removed ones?

[zenith geode]

mothron is not canon but eyezor and reaper are

[timber glacier]

Also vampires are probably vague enough that they could be canon

[zenith geode]

vampires are safe too i'm guessing

[timber glacier]

Like they aren’t like explicitly dracula or something

[long bloom]

blatant references, frost/pumpkin moon content and crossover content

[timber glacier]

Also like the actual irl holiday content right like santa

[split mortar]

All of those can technically fall under dedicated iirc

[long bloom]

yeah

[long bloom]

ok but that's entirely unhelpful

specificity is good

[split mortar]

True but also i wanna eat a aluminium can

[long bloom]

real

[timber glacier]

Like if the item is literally like a direct reference its non-canon but like some of distinct enough like I’d assume enchanted sword and like beam sword which i believe are references

[long bloom]

yeah those are fine

[split mortar]

Those are references?

[timber glacier]

I’m pretty sure they are

[zenith geode]

master sword loz

[long bloom]

enchanted sword is pretty clearly based on the master sword

[timber glacier]

Also like excalibur being in a rock

[scenic kraken]

Are we really struggling to consider what's canon to a mod for a pixel game...

[zenith geode]

sword that shoots beams and is found stuck in the ground

[split mortar]

Not really struggling

[scenic kraken]

Y'know what's canon?

[split mortar]

Your mum

[long bloom]

if you come into the lore channel for something and start spouting that it's an unimportant block game, everyone's gonna punch you in the face

[scenic kraken]

Whatever the player can get their hands on

[scenic kraken]

Yeah, she taught Yharim how to be racist

[abstract hedge]

Yeah no I don't think that's the case

[timber glacier]

But I do also wonder what dragons some of Terrarias “dragon-like” mobs descended from, like what was the dragon basilisks are descended from

[abstract hedge]

Oh nvm this is bait

[scenic kraken]

It is lmao

[long bloom]

probably the auric dragon of earth or whatever domain controlled earth

[timber glacier]

I’d assume it wouldn’t be “earth” since like thats an elemental

[long bloom]

true

[split mortar]

Whats the percentage of homosexuality among wyverns

[timber glacier]

Maybe dragon of dust or sand

[long bloom]

42%

[long bloom]

stone sounds good to me

[abstract hedge]

75%
They're rapidly going extinct.

[split mortar]

Quakes or uh
Tectonics
Wouldnt just be sand or dust vetrasyl is storms and tides is tides they seem to be a bit more active then the raw element existing

[timber glacier]

I’d say since like there is no “stone” in the desert it would be kinda odd

[long bloom]

!wiki sandstone

[pliant island]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Special:Search?search=sandstone

[timber glacier]

Why would sand and dust be storms?

[long bloom]

fuck

!wiki tgc:sandstone

[split mortar]

Vetrasyl is storms

[timber glacier]

I mean the literal item called stone

[pliant island]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Special:Search?search=tgc:sandstone

[long bloom]

[timber glacier]

Yeah I know but why would sand fall under that jurisdiction

[split mortar]

The “elemental” dragons seem to be more like a domain of the element in action
Storms for wind and clouds
Tides for water

[split mortar]

Never said that

[timber glacier]

Oh I’m a dummy and misread you sorry

[split mortar]

No i forgot punctuation exists in that message

[timber glacier]

Maybe like the dragon of Crumbling?

[long bloom]

erosion would sound better

but still eh

[split mortar]

So i think a earth based dragon would also be more “active”
So tectonic or quakes or some other active earthen thingy would fit better then sand or dust imo

[timber glacier]

yeah but like erosion suggests control over other forms or erosion like water glaciers and plants

[abstract hedge]

Eruption dragon
I guess that's more magma and not (solid) rocks though.

[long bloom]

erosion is caused by air and water though, not earth

quakes are caused by earth

[timber glacier]

But also like a “dragon of stone” would probably have to have direct ties to the underground purity cos like that is the stone place

[long bloom]

true

[west plume]

Quakes sounds accurate; Dragon domains are phenomena so if it is a happening associated with matter it can be that

[long bloom]

also mountains

are known to be quite stony

[west plume]

there wouldn't be a Dragon of Stone. that's an elemental

[long bloom]

earth

[timber glacier]

That’d be like if the dragon of water (i know its waves but go with me) lived in sky lakes instead of like the sea

[west plume]

has 2 be phenomena; a happening

[long bloom]

good 2 know

[timber glacier]

ahh so dragon of irritation because of the small sand particles

[west plume]

dragon of irritation sounds fine if your dragon can only produce pollen and asbestos

[long bloom]

dragon of friction burn

[zenith geode]

primordial light is a phenomenon?

[icy veldt]

Coarseness, roughness, irritation, getting all over the place

[split mortar]

Radiation from the sun

Idk

[timber glacier]

You do “light” up stuff so like it is kinda

[long bloom]

that would be dragon of illumination probably

[timber glacier]

Wait is frost a phenomonon

[west plume]

'Primordial Light' as named by the Dragons is the experience of the Sun

[long bloom]

things can get frosty

[west plume]

'Frost' is the experience of ice freezing over, so yes.

[abstract hedge]

Where does primordial light fall on the radiation spectrum

[split mortar]

I think you will experience just a bit of frost once i dump you into liquid nitrogen

[west plume]

google 'Sun radiation spectra'

[long bloom]

and a flame is what happens when something catches fire

[timber glacier]

Also do we know of any other dragon offshoots other than basilisks, dragonfollies, wyrms and pigrons/fishrons (and thus i guess pigs)

[split mortar]

Wyverns

[west plume]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/458743905957969970/1498557151889854645/yTUFf.png?ex=69f2405a&is=69f0eeda&hm=56e9e056aa4b93a6d9152f3268f07290fe82163ea71bc2c634cdef44dbe1e9cd&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=471&height=350

xeroc's power can produce most of this

[abstract hedge]

Isn't primordial light special in some way or something? Or is it being sculpted into the boss rush enemies just something gods can do with their domain or something?

[rain osprey]

can xeroc microwave a hot pocket

[west plume]

yeah

[timber glacier]

Oh yeah I forgot to list wyverns them too

[long bloom]

it's literally just sunlight

the words mean the same thing

[abstract hedge]

I don't think pigs descend from pigrons. If pigs are draconic offshoots then we've absolutely lost the plot.

[west plume]

it's just sunlight. the thing called Primordial Light is the experience of sunlight

[split mortar]

Primordial light is special but it is also just
The light from the sun

[long bloom]

good

[west plume]

xeroc can't perfectly recreate like, the light from an LED bulb. he can create microwaves and such

[timber glacier]

It would be really funny and kind of explain the upcoming divine swine moreso

[west plume]

pigs and pigrons are like fish and ilmeris people where they aren't related and just happen to look similar to each other

convergent evolution

[rain osprey]

but can xeroc microwave a hot pocket in a way where the outside isn't burning and the middle isn't cold

[long bloom]

booooooo

[west plume]

that might be a lil difficult

[timber glacier]

What nooo

[west plume]

i never said the horrible hog wasn't a dragon tho

..

[long bloom]

:D

[rain osprey]

i did

[timber glacier]

But you can turn pig into horrible hog with evil powder

[rain osprey]

all yout theories are wrong goodbye

[split mortar]

I think we lost the plot long ago

[young socket]

if xeroc can recreate several bosses then i think they can cook a hot pocket well

[stoic lark]

the horrible hog is the auric dragon of brainrot

[west plume]

Notice how vile powder is made of essence

[long bloom]

are elumphants offshoots

[west plume]

idk ask tri

[abstract hedge]

So that's why it's messed up and evil.

[timber glacier]

Noo my crack theory that the money trough flying piggy bank was alive due to like being kind of an idol of a kind of dragon is wrong

[split mortar]

Calamitas did not absorb most of brimmys power 💔

[timber glacier]

She was just built different and beat the shit out of her

[agile matrix]

dragon of ballin'

[timber glacier]

What would a god counterparts domain be? God of spheres?

[split mortar]

God of it goes in the square hole

[timber glacier]

Wait are sharkrons also dragon descendants

[abstract hedge]

Only a truly evil person would kill the dragon of ballin' so god of airballs it is.

[timber glacier]

Hey we don’t know the context of the ascension maybe it was what the dragon wanted

[long bloom]

they're duke's direct children so yeah

[abstract hedge]

tf you mean they're its children

What on earth is the fishron life cycle

[long bloom]

:idk:

[west plume]

God of Airballs is such an evil ascended

God of Fumbling

[timber glacier]

What since duke fishron is a duke does that mean he goes through mpreg to fire his babies at you

[young socket]

what.

[long bloom]

yes

[abstract hedge]

no

[timber glacier]

Cos if they’re his children he and he can infinitely produce more in the fight he must be giving birth to them

[long bloom]

this is true

[abstract hedge]

Bag of holding with children inside it

[timber glacier]

I do wonder if he must them like reproduce asexually or like has a partner on him somewhere

Bro has 3996 of his babies and has a qol mod with infinite thrown items config on

But yeah sharkrons being dragons is interesting cos like they are basically just funky coloured sharks so like logically they should be related to normal sharks

[abstract hedge]

They're children of the duke so they're also dragons because the duke is

[timber glacier]

Sharks in cal also seem to be very adaptable since like theres the sand sharks which include each of the evil biomes and the great sand shark, the sulphurous sea’s mauler assid rain tier 3 mini-boss and like lava sharks

Also like isnt there like a weird shark minion calamity adds made from forbidden fragmenrs

Oh and reaper sharks

And hemogoblin sharks ( but theyre probably because of blood moon)

[abstract hedge]

There's dog-sized snow elephants I don't think any of the animals make sense

[timber glacier]

They don’t make sense but like IDK if they were dragon descendants maybe like their ancestry makes it easier for them to adapt or something

Since fishrons and pigron are both planned to be frost dragon descendants yet one likes in a freezing tundra and the other in the ocean being easily able to adapt for frost dragon descendants is commonplace

Also random question are like most of the enemies in the evil biomes like formed from the biome themselves or are they more infected creatures that got taken over by the evils

I know like the evil critters are infected but like what about crimeras for example

[abstract hedge]

There's also the possibility that magic or something just makes things evolve way faster in general, I know that Silva's essence does so (or maybe it doesn't, it's been a while since I've read the lore).

[timber glacier]

Also wait now that I think about it what even are mummies in calamity lore

[abstract hedge]

Just mummies that have gotten possessed or have some ritual on them or something.

Knowing how necromancy kinda sucks in Calamity they're probably just messed up necromantic guards or something from the pre-Ilmeris desert civilization.

[timber glacier]

Yeah but like egyptian culture of burial stuff like mummies presumably doesn’t happen

[leaden bridge]

I mean it kinda

It has to

Some culture had to do that

Or they wouldn't exist

That's your answer

[timber glacier]

Well probably similar stuff but like egypt wasn’t real

[leaden bridge]

Like what else is there to say

Well yeah but like

Do you think only egypt mummified people

[timber glacier]

Like was the practices done by like illmeris

[wheat walrus]

p

[timber glacier]

Like it must’ve been done by a desert/desert neighbouring civilisation (But also mummies spawning on the ocean’s beach makes this extra confusing)

[abstract hedge]

iirc there was a desert civilization before Ilmeris existed

[long bloom]

there was certainly something in the desert

djinn bestiary entry

[light linden]

random but

I wonder if illmerians use bowls for anything

[timber glacier]

Probably holding some stuff easier

[light linden]

how?

they're underwater

[timber glacier]

By like putting them in the bowl?

[light linden]

plates would work fine

[timber glacier]

What about like idk 8 small round fruits or something

[light linden]

they were mostly underwater

[young socket]

there could be pockets of air

[timber glacier]

So? They stuff would still end up falling off a plate

So bowls would be used sometimes

[light linden]

from my understanding, round things don't roll much underwater unless they had momentum from something else

[agile matrix]

tall bowls

[long bloom]

bowl of kelp noodles

[agile matrix]

we call these Pots

[light linden]

also yeah

[timber glacier]

Yeah and like the person holding it would probably end up putting force on to them while moving

[light linden]

fruits probably wou-

wait a moment

I wonder how many illmerians had hands

since they had a lot of different species right?

hell I wonder how many of them even could travel on dry land

[wanton pendant]

At least one.

[young socket]

amidias somehow achieves it with a seahorse tail as his lower body so i think a bunch of different ilmeran races could

[dusk laurel]

this is a certified idk™ moment

[light linden]

does amidias have hands?

[wanton pendant]

Good question.

[light linden]

I can't tell with a pixel sprite

[wanton pendant]

Uh, so, there is one picture of his latest design that we the people have access to.

And it is his face.

[young socket]

yes

[wanton pendant]

The real question is does he have fingers, or even thumbs?

[feral skiff]

wait show it?

[young socket]

according to the lilac art he does have fingers that are opposable enough to grip a trident, but its hard to say if there are any thumbs

[wanton pendant]

Are you reallllllyyyy sure?

[feral skiff]

yes

[worldly spindle]

ah

[west plume]

hi moderator

is this legitimate

[worldly spindle]

Hmmm let's see

sniff sniff

I deem this post

CRINGE

[young socket]

mmmmm smells of bitcoin...

[small citrus]

kill

[light linden]

uh oh.

[hoary cape]

Tomorrow is not another day I am preventing tomorrow from happening

[wanton pendant]

This is the plot of Sonic and the Black Knight.

[noble falcon]

Deep cut with that one
You love to see it

[real silo]

I'm so smart

[timber glacier]

Yummmy scams

[long bloom]

@raven brook

[raven brook]

mr beast

[pulsar ocean]

I do

[timber glacier]

I don’t

[stark flame]

How tall is Braelor?

[wanton pendant]

Like, probably pretty tall.

[long bloom]

we have no idea

not even a reference point

we know the heights of exactly 3 characters:
calamitas (5'4")
yharim (~9')
draedon (~12')

[stark flame]

[west plume]

?? draedon is 12ft tall

since when

why did bro make drones that big

[cosmic zenith]

Based on ingame size comparisons I think

Assuming the player is at an average height, the recon body Draedon sends is genuinely pretty tall

[stark flame]

Is this setting still retained in Xeroc's redesign?

[long bloom]

i don't see why not

[bleak hare]

yo like what is the world soul thing that is mentioned in the yharon lore that became the auric souls the dragons consumed

like what even is it😭

[long bloom]

it's literally the soul of the planet (terraria)

[bleak hare]

right

so

that dont make a whole lot of sense

its okay for now

[long bloom]

the sun, moon and other celestial bodies also have souls (subject to change but unlikely)

so terraria's soul got shattered somehow, dragons absorbed the fragments and it turned their souls auric

[bleak hare]

sorry what

how would the celestial bodies have souls bro

i have never seen that mentioned

[long bloom]

the same way terraria does

[bleak hare]

why do other planets not have souls then

[long bloom]

they do

planets are celestial bodies

[bleak hare]

hmmmmmmmm

wouldnt it make more sense for the like universe to have a soul instead

[long bloom]

also a large chunk of the lore information isn't in the game, but derived from developer statements here
everything not in the game is subject to change and shouldn't be taken as solidified canon until it's in the game

[bleak hare]

ok cool thanks

my personal suggestion

make the universe have a soul

idk why rocks would

and stars

[wanton pendant]

Always remember, the moon's haunted.

[long bloom]

terraria's not supposed to be the center of everything that happens in the universe, so having a universe soul that the dragons absorbed would make things a bit too terraria-centric i think

[raven brook]

fantasy setting

making the universe have a soul kind of just suddenly increases the scale of the story by a unreasonably large amount

the idea of earth being alive is very common in fatasy settings even, so the concept of a world soul is nothing out of ordinary

heck, not even just fantasy settings, real mythology too

something something Gaia something something

[scenic kraken]

And then we remember that The Terrarian Canonically used a MAC laptop before

It isn't too lore breaking

It's just funny

[split mortar]

Not really any way for any character to learn if the universe has a soul or not so even if it did itd be irrelevant

[stark flame]

Is Stasis a messenger of Signus?

[raven brook]

Statis is a Onyx Kinsmen, which is a group of ninjas that signus as one of their figures of worship

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt signus give him a discount for being one of his Gs

[timber glacier]

I do wonder how signus met braelor

[stark flame]

Why does Signus use Stasis's body to fight the player?

[pulsar ocean]

@raven brookmr beast

[raven brook]

MR BEASTTT

none of the mdos even log "hacked account" anymore. we all just do mr beast

good ending

[timber glacier]

what if mr beast joins the server what would happen then I wonder 🤔

[leaden bridge]

Assumedly signus is not rlly corporeal

i don't see why else

unless statis ultra omega mogs signus weak original alien body with his onyx training

[scenic kraken]

Do you think if Calamitas never met yharim

Would she develop into someone less cold and cynical?

[topaz viper]

reflexive on-sight execution

[scenic kraken]

SO Y'ALL TELLING ME

That SIGNUS IS USING STATIS' BODY?!

[timber glacier]

She would probably be very depressed cos like she killed a city accidentally

[scenic kraken]

Imagine she met future gohan (goathan)

[magic epoch]

what

[scenic kraken]

Why should I go to Calamity Addon?

[magic epoch]

oh it's just a quick thingy for people who ask questions regarding (mainly infernum) addons in cmt or harp

[scenic kraken]

Ooooohhhh

[magic epoch]

↗️

i can just do that

[cloud ibex]

🫴

[wanton pendant]

I think most people would be better of if they weren't child soldiers.

[split mortar]

She would have prob died to exploding herself with a spell or smth

Without permafrost to help her deal with her magic i think she either dies accidentally or ends up like calclone
Mentally obliterated by the magic

[wanton pendant]

Surely there are other master wizards who can adopt nuclear children!

[scenic kraken]

mmmm

should i make an oc about that what if...

h m m m m m

[pulsar ocean]

larp

[leaden bridge]

larping calamity mod? More likely than you think. Just ask hylamity devs

[trim edge]

wtf is hylamity

[barren mortar]

Hytale+Calamity

[leaden bridge]

#nichemedias

[noble falcon]

Since the wall of flesh hasn’t died yet at that point in the story the world is still prehardmode, so the wizard npc isn’t around
Our best bet is to find Tim and have him teach her the magic craft

[wheat walrus]

p

[candid summit]

I like to compare Draedon being as tall to us as Dr. Samuel Hayden is to Doomguy in DOOM 2016

[magic epoch]

I have no personality and i must larp

[cosmic zenith]

Don't make assumptions
It's also better to just not delve too deep into topics that have literally no presence ingame rn

[split mortar]

They are not making assumptions, syrup said other celestial bodies have souls

[agile matrix]

hi guys was reading amidias's help dialogues: what is a claimed soul of a dragon

[young socket]

it just means you

have an auric soul.

not ascended with it like its

like its just there and its yours

unless youre yharon u cant really do anything if ur just a soul

[light linden]

you know

I wonder if there were any cases of auric dragons wanting to not be reborn immediately so their subjects could at least temporarily work with auric

[hoary cape]

Could that even happen

[noble falcon]

If I put an auric soul in a balloon how much would it increase my jump height

[trim edge]

turns out it's the dragon of gravity's soul and you can't jump anymore

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt the god of war just spam nukes

[trim edge]

where did draedon read greek mythology

[split mortar]

Nukes prevent war they are the opposite of what it should have

[split mortar]

Yur mum

[noble falcon]

High school like the rest of us

[west plume]

it would decrease ur jump height now the balloon dont have no air in it

[noble falcon]

Obviously just use the soul from the long forgotten Boingus, Dragon of Jump Height Boosting
He created the very first shiny red balloon

[west plume]

the inventor of clowns

[noble falcon]

Awesome move by that dragon, made a good source of blood orbs

[sinful adder]

Do souls displace matter? They don't appear to be physical

[cosmic zenith]

And I said to disregard any previous information about Calamity cosmology

[noble falcon]

What is Yharim’s favorite freshwater fish

[split mortar]

fair enough i forgot that

[long bloom]

true

[long bloom]

the northern pike

[noble falcon]

That’s a pretty good fish

We gotta fill out every little bit of Yharim’s personal interests before we get his boss fight
That way we can use his every weakness to our advantage, like paying Draedon to develop an Anti-Pike Plague and threaten to release it if he doesnt surrender

[timber glacier]

Is there still any lore reason why providence can be fought in the hallow, since the hallow is made of the souls of the good gods but providence is definitely not a “good god”

Or is it just a leftover from older versions

[light linden]

leftover

[timber glacier]

I do wonder if there a plan for if shell get like her own biome or something eventually or will just loose the biome requirements

[light linden]

the former I believe

there's been talk of a profaned biome for a while

[timber glacier]

I’d imagine it’d probably be like a hell biome since the dragon of flame providence killed did live in hell and like that is the place with the most ash and stuff

Also what does “profaned” even mean

[light linden]

your guess is as good as mine

[long bloom]

unholy basically

i think

[leaden bridge]

Not quite

It means something holy that's been treated with disrespect

Like yeah it's technically unholy

But I don't think you'd call hell profaned cuz hell was never a holy place

[timber glacier]

Wait I just thought about it since god of war probably has ties to the marble caves (I think right) I wonder if Dogma has like connections to their counterpart in granite caves

[leaden bridge]

Idt war has anything to do with the marble caves ?

[timber glacier]

I thought they did cos like the wasn’t there something about how like the hoplites are tied to them

[leaden bridge]

Auggh idr every single vanilla bestiary and those lazy wiki editors don't document them

[timber glacier]

Like it says its responsible for them in the lore document thats pinned in this channel

[trim edge]

do auric dragons respawn at full size

because otherwise i'm just imagining yharim being pulled from the lava by a baby chicken

[split mortar]

How the fuck would yharim take the egg if it was as big as this shithead

[wanton pendant]

Baby.

They're so much more marketable that way.

Baby Gloomborf plush when?

[split mortar]

Thats just an orb

[wanton pendant]

Mean.

[trim edge]

ok but how big was newborn yharon

[wanton pendant]

Big enough to carry a fully grown man.

[trim edge]

doesn't say that much here

[wanton pendant]

What?

[split mortar]

What
Yharon literally carries yharim

[trim edge]

i mean it doesn't say much about yharon's size

[wanton pendant]

Did you think he used telekinesis or something?

[trim edge]

the terrarian is just some guy casually carrying weapons many times their size so dragons might be able to do better

i'm just imagining a baby chicken pulling a 9 foot man up by the finger or something

[leaden bridge]

Why doesn't Yharim just dunk the egg in lava

[wanton pendant]

He eats his eggs raw. Like Gaston.

[sinful adder]

The egg was already close to hatching last time

It's still fully goop this time

[noble falcon]

It should still make it faster

Just slightly less so

[sinful adder]

1% faster off of 10 years

Instead of 50% faster off of a few days

[noble falcon]

That’s not nothing, percentages make a bigger and bigger difference the larger the whole is

And 10 years isn’t exactly little

[sinful adder]

Ok yes but the point is that heating the egg probably subtracts like a day

[noble falcon]

10 years is 3,652 days, if it is in fact 1% faster for keeping it in close proximity to searing heat, you’re shaving off more than a day

[zenith geode]

actually it rounds up to 3653 days

0.5 rounds up raher than down

[cosmic zenith]

Anyone seen my fridge

[feral skiff]

is this a cryptic hint for the new calamity mod update

[long bloom]

the elumphant stole it and transformed it into a bed

[cosmic zenith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cosmic zenith]

Noooooooooo :c

[west plume]

Thats mean. I think we should catch and cook them

[hollow pivot]

If you cook Elumphant do you get water or meat?

[west plume]

providence is profane, as in the opposite of godly or sanctified. she is a far distance away from the role of a god as an evil being who does not care for acknowledgement or worship despite being ascended

she embodies the opposite traits of a deity or figure to be revered

i.e. profaned goddess

[plucky juniper]

"Those most devout to Her travel the world, being planted into societies and acting as spies and assassins. Among their duties is constructing shrines in Her honor infused with Her divine power, that She might bless pagans blinded by darkness with visions of Her new age of light."

• Profaned Energy's Bestiary entry

[west plume]

she wants all of her worshippers to die and curses the most annoying to a fate of eternal burning torment

[stark flame]

Why can the Empress of Light wield Primordial Light in daylight?

Is there any connection between the Hallow and Primordial Light?

[long bloom]

we'll learn eventually

[long bloom]

how does she manage torturing someone forever

is it automated or

[west plume]

being turned from a human to this thing

[long bloom]

i see

so that's why they're like that

[west plume]

a lot of people see it as being """blessed""" but like they are in eternal burning transfigured torment and i don't know why anyone interprets it that way

scorn eaters dont even have arms no more

she cares so goddamn little about her followers that they have to animate immolators using their own life force instead of providence's literally infinite power, An idol carved in the image of Her, it is lit ablaze with the crafter's lifeforce. After all, what weight does one's life hold when one wishes to see the world wreathed in Her holy flames?

the way you get """blessed""" is by being annoying enough that providence decides that you should be an armless flailing burning ugly creature until you are put out of your misery by natural decay or being mercy killed

[hollow pivot]

Is it literally infinite? Because there's a decent difference between Unenraged and Enraged Providence.

[west plume]

it's infinite as in she can keep doing it for as long as she wants to and not infinite in the sense that she is the most powerful in the setting

providence could sit around making immolators all day with no consequence. she doesn't give a shit so her followers have to kill themselves to do it

[hollow pivot]

Why does she give people torturous lives on purpose if her whole goal is to end all suffering?

[west plume]

her followers are annoying to her and get in the way. she doesn't want to be acknowledged by them

they also have the side effect of being willing murderers tho and are at least somewhat useful when they're transfigured

walk yourself to the nearest village, kill everyone in it and force a party of knights to put you out of your misery when the pain is too much to bear

[hollow pivot]

I thought that followers made gods stronger? Is it more in the sense of military power Yharim speaks? Or is he just capping?

[west plume]

i think both but she doesn't control the strength she gets from worship nor does she cultivate it

if you think about any god in particular enough they will gain a miniscule amount of strength from you

[long bloom]

do elementals also gain power from being worshipped

sick

[hollow pivot]

What do you mean by she doesn't control the strength?

[west plume]

as in she can't choose whether or not to get empowered by people thinking of her

[long bloom]

do they gain power even through negative thoughts

[west plume]

i would assume so. it's not like providence has many people who think positively of her

[hollow pivot]

“All publicity is good publicity” 😭

[long bloom]

yeah was gonna say everyone fuckin hates her

[robust osprey]

does she gain turbo power from Everyone Ever

[long bloom]

but also goes to show how cracked xeroc is, still being the most powerful god while only having like 5 people know about them

[robust osprey]

he is just THAT guy

[hollow pivot]

Getting the full concentrated power of the sun will do that to you.

[robust osprey]

yharim's thought are the source of atleast 20% of his power trust

[long bloom]

maxie why are you horsed

[long bloom]

[robust osprey]

it's my true being

above all things

I am

horse.

[long bloom]

evil

[robust osprey]

exactly

I am evil

and I will horse you

[long bloom]

parries

[robust osprey]

unparreable

[long bloom]

then how did i parry it tupid

[hollow pivot]

Having the world's biggest hater constantly thinking about you for decades straight would probably give a god strength.

[robust osprey]

you simply didnt

I rewrote reality u didnt parry

ur dead btw

[long bloom]

nuh uh

[west plume]

thoughts are empowerment but the shard offers a base level of power

xeroc doesn't have to be thought about particularly because he just has a cracked domain and happens to be competent

[hollow pivot]

Do Auric Dragons get power from thoughts if Elementals and gods do?

[long bloom]

yeah i was just saying they're insane without the extra boost

[hollow pivot]

Dragon of Mind should've been thoughtmaxxing for strength.

[robust osprey]

true

brainwash Everyone into thinking about them

and feed

[hollow pivot]

Maybe Noxus has been getting those thought-boosts in with that whole dimension hive mind thing?

[long bloom]

noxus isn't a dragon, elemental or god

[west plume]

noxus doesn't get those yeah

[robust osprey]

elemental of Cancer

[long bloom]

[west plume]

cancer is phenomena and not an element

so there'd be a dragon of cancer but not an elemental of cancer

👍

[long bloom]

lame

[robust osprey]

oh so noxus is dragon of cancer got it

[hollow pivot]

Is there a Dragon of Oxidization?

[robust osprey]

thatd probably enter in a metal domain

[west plume]

vetrasyl

[robust osprey]

which is more likely

and also yea vetrasyl

and whoever tyrian killed too

[long bloom]

mizuaruna

[hollow pivot]

Dragon of Tides methinks

[long bloom]

yeah

[hollow pivot]

So can he just rust things?

[west plume]

you know when you drive a car after a rain and the rotors have developed a thin layer of rust and it makes a squealing sound as the brakes sand them off

[hollow pivot]

Vetrasyl cursed every 4th shopping cart wheel to suck?

[hollow pivot]

What about it?

[west plume]

vetrasyl can do that

on command

[hollow pivot]

So can Vetrasyl practically dissolve iron?

[west plume]

he can rust your brakes on command

[west plume]

he can oxidize it. idk about dissolve

[hollow pivot]

I mean what if you rust something incredibly fast to the point it's practically dissolved from how many times it's broken apart?

[cosmic zenith]

Rusting is a chemical process that involves ion transformations and is usually tied to exposure to the elements

The question isn't whether Vetrasyl can, it's whether he knows how to (since this is a very niche use of his powers)

[hollow pivot]

He lived* like thousands of years, he probably could have figured it out.

[long bloom]

shimmer sea prisms into otonilou's godly soul, shimmer that into vetrasyl's auric soul, get yharon to revive him and use him to instakill the exos

perfect plan

[west plume]

surely a few chrysadians have asked him to produce iron oxide as a favor a few times

[hollow pivot]

Cosmilite

[long bloom]

shut

[hollow pivot]

Yharim says Exo Mechs are steel and steel is mostly iron thus can rust so yeah you're right because Yharim never lies.

[west plume]

yharim, famous for his observations on the composition of objects from afar

i am sure he used emission spectra analysis for this astute observation

[stark flame]

Does Azafure have artificial intelligence?

[hollow pivot]

Well of course he did the Auric goggle clearly just tells him what things are made of by looking at them.

[west plume]

ah yes. his discrimination goggles

[long bloom]

earth elemental

[stark flame]

[hollow pivot]

How do you think he sees gods? He doesn't see a massive magical twisted human, he uses his Ex-Ray Vision to find Auric in the soul.

[cosmic zenith]

Great point
This might've given them abundant paint, but that does depend a bit on iron availability
I don't think I know of other uses for iron oxide

[hollow pivot]

Was there a Dragon of Metal?

[cosmic zenith]

Figurative

[cosmic zenith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

There was definitely a dragon whose domain included metal

[hollow pivot]

So have that guy just raise iron from the earth.

[cosmic zenith]

Quite the generosity for one specific civilization

[noble falcon]

We call that Dragonforce, pal

[cosmic zenith]

Underground civilizations seeing their iron disappear overnight:

[long bloom]

the eldest basilisk

[hollow pivot]

Stealing metal reserves from a civilization is very in-character for the dragons ngl.

[west plume]

they would do that

[hollow pivot]

Probably wouldn't even need half of it.

[long bloom]

lore accurate

[west plume]

i think if dragons found a way to steal drinkable water from everyone else they probably would have done it

[long bloom]

oh god dragon nestle

[cosmic zenith]

(Definitely not for a human civilization though)

[hollow pivot]

The idea of the dragon of metal going around doing things like bending spoons to annoy people is very funny to me.

[noble falcon]

Why would they when they’ve got the Dragon of Water Purification Systems to handle it
He’s the reason the other ocean is so clean and nice

[hollow pivot]

“Access to water should not be a public right.” ~ Zeratros, Dragon King

[west plume]

when greg from the warrior camp lowkey taunted zeratros so they're about to steal your water privileges for a year

[hollow pivot]

Zeratros probably gave people sunburn even at night simply for the fun of it.

I wonder if people liked the Dragons very much.

[timber glacier]

Probably depended very much on the particular dragon like people probably like the dragon of life but like everyone probably hated the dragon of flames

I’d assume like zeratros and yharon were like very divisive since I’d imagine some people would see them as protectors whereas other would see their bad sides and stuff

[west plume]

if you thought the dragons were right then you probably supported zeratros and yharon

if you thought getting vitamin d was cool you hated them

[hollow pivot]

Were there civil wars fought over the dragons?

[hollow pivot]

And did they have any themselves?

[timber glacier]

I wonder which dragons like didn’t agree with zeratros’ methods and like either went against him or like just disagreed and tried to like peacefully convince him against some of the things he did

[long bloom]

vetrasyl probably

[timber glacier]

Like did they mostly all like eachother or were they also very split

[hollow pivot]

Did the Dragon of Death leave because he had killaura or because he just didn't like the others?

[long bloom]

probably mostly the killaura

[timber glacier]

Now that I think about it most of the dragons we know of existing would probably be against zeratros turning up the sun

• dragon of life - would cause like mass deaths
• dragon of frost - would melt a lot of ice and stuff
• dragon of night - probably would prefer it being darker
• dragon of tides - boiling the oceans
• dragon of faith - the other inhabitants of the world would probably start lose faith in the dragons
• dragon of gluttony - food would probably become more scarce if the world was scorched by super sun radiation

Why did zeratros at all think this would be a good idea

Is he stupid ?!?

[hollow pivot]

And then banishes the death guy 🧠

[hollow pivot]

And the Fire Guy.

[long bloom]

john death's exile was entirely voluntary

[timber glacier]

I really hope the dragon of death is like a very sad and somber character who self-banished himself (which I’m pretty sure he did) to not kill all his friends and family

[long bloom]

yeah that's what it is rn unless it changed for some reason

[timber glacier]

I want death dragon to feel forever alone, never allowed to be near those he values since it would lead to their deaths
Give me an incredibly tragic character who is cursed to be sad for the survival of those he loves

[west plume]

there's no real way to have a civil war since you can't really get rid of political leaders unless you kill yharon, and then you are incredibly unpopular

[timber glacier]

Wait why can yharon use fire if he isn’t the dragon of flames? Like especially since they’re now gone how does yharon do it

[west plume]

he's a mage

[long bloom]

he uses fire magic

[timber glacier]

Ah hes a mage class main that explains why hes the way he is

[long bloom]

[timber glacier]

But like isn’t it specifically dragonfire so like is it just called that or can only dragons use it

[long bloom]

i think it's just really really hot fire

[timber glacier]

Isn’t that what hellfire is

[long bloom]

no that's just really hot fire

[west plume]

it's just called that; he is a mage who uses magic that is fire

[long bloom]

not really really hot fire

[timber glacier]

I am now wondering if yharons fire stuff is that strong how powerful was the dragon of flames fire

[long bloom]

who's better at fire magic, providence or yharon

[timber glacier]

Calamitas

[long bloom]

she uses brimstone magic

not fire

[west plume]

providence is like several times younger than yharon who do u think

[long bloom]

yeah that's what i thought

[timber glacier]

Its fire element debuff so its fire

[long bloom]

explodes you

[timber glacier]

Random thought I wonder how some of the much more abstract concepts for the dragons domains will be shown through their designs if they ever get designs like faith and order

[eager bluff]

my assumption would be brimstone magic is like a subset of fire magic in the same way ice magic would be a subset of water magic

[long bloom]

brimstone magic is (i think) basically just condensed chaos that happens to look and act like fire

it's not literally fire

[long bloom]

true

[timber glacier]

Brimstone elemental is the fire elemental though i thought so aren’t they kinda one in the same

[long bloom]

technically she's the heat elemental

[timber glacier]

Would that mean she could ice magic since controlling heat could let you make places have less of it

[long bloom]

unlikely

the ice elemental is a fragment of anahita

[eager bluff]

unclear based off debuffs

[long bloom]

having a flame doesn't mean it's fire

[west plume]

brimstone magic is to fire like how the wish crown is to ice in adventure time

[timber glacier]

They also do function as fire debuffs which would logically suggest that like they’re effectively fire since that means they rely on the same resources

[long bloom]

i never watched adventure time what is that

[timber glacier]

Ice kings crown (i think)

[eager bluff]

for all intents and purposes brimstone magic is just fancy fire magic

[long bloom]

i assumed so, idk what it does

[timber glacier]

Lets him do ice magic and makes him go insane

[eager bluff]

ok but this also doesnt prove that it isnt

[timber glacier]

Also originally used to grant a wish when in the distant past the 4 elementals of fire, ice, candy and slime tried to prevent a meteor from killing everyone but the ice elementals “student” gunther (not the penguin but kinda is finn kinda) ended up going insane and instead wishing to be like his mentor dooming the population of the world of the time

[long bloom]

whar

[timber glacier]

Thats what the crown is

Also what does Dogma mean I genuinely dont know

[eager bluff]

intense faith bordering on obsession

[long bloom]

basically a synonym for rhetoric iirc

[eager bluff]

or rhetoric yeah

[timber glacier]

Like a rhetoric in like rhetorical question or something else

[visual kiln]

hi chat

[west plume]

it can be used to summon fire but it isn't fire magic. the lesson you should be getting from this is that calamitas is uncreative

[long bloom]

just google it man

[eager bluff]

rhetoric as in talking

ideas

[long bloom]

[eager bluff]

information that is communicated persuasively

[long bloom]

something something brimstone hellblast

[timber glacier]

Wait would lava fall under brimstone elemental or earth elemental’s abilities

[visual kiln]

earth probably

[timber glacier]

Because it is just hot rocks

[sinful adder]

Both I think

[eager bluff]

which is an aspect of dogma but dogma is to a much more intense degree; dogma refers to rhetoric held unquestionably with no room for change

[visual kiln]

lava isnt fire

[long bloom]

brimmy is the heat elemental

[visual kiln]

oh

both then

[timber glacier]

Probably but brimstone could at least turn stone into lava but like maybe couldn’t controll the lava itself

Also is there any in-universe explanations for how potions work in calamity

[long bloom]

they work like how they do in the game

[eager bluff]

idk they just kinda do stuff

[timber glacier]

Shouldn’t we then die from drinking ironskin if we used lead in it

[long bloom]

✨ magic ✨

[timber glacier]

Also don’t we like visually drink the flasks too so like half of them would also kill us

[visual kiln]

mana magic spell magic

a wild handwave approaches from the west

[long bloom]

✅

[real glen]

Ironskin turns your skin into Iron
jk, the Ironskin makes your skin tougher

[long bloom]

obsidian skin actually just turns your skin into obsidian tho

nobody knows why it does that

it just do

[timber glacier]

I will say in universe teleportation potions would be really interesting cos like 9/10 you’ll be trapped in a cave with no escape so like they’d be like very hard to use

[eager bluff]

thats why you find so many in chests people dont fucking want to use them

[long bloom]

the ever-helpful pickaxe:

[timber glacier]

Also me when I drink the potions of rage and wrath and just get very mad

[sinful adder]

I wonder why brimstone magic makes you insane

[long bloom]

The Voices™

[visual kiln]

gravity potion

when u jump u go to space

better learn how to jump in air!

[sinful adder]

is it like heat+souls+other stuff

[timber glacier]

Also wait if in universe didn’t have a spawn point set and drank a recall would they be like teleported to where they were born

[eager bluff]

probably just wherever they last slept

[timber glacier]

Wait how in the world would ammo conservation work in universe

Wait what would happen if someone drank ironskin, obsidianskin and sulfurskin in universe what would their skin be made of

[eager bluff]

sometimes you just get another bullet

[eager bluff]

evil skin

[eager bluff]

like youll reach into a quiver and it might have an arrow in it that wasnt there before or when firing a gun a bullet that wasnt in the magazine originally appears

[timber glacier]

Draedon when he finds out a stupid fish turns into a drink that breaks the laws of conservation of mass and now must restart his entire research since his base ideas of how the world works no longer apply

[eager bluff]

no those still apply

its magic it just does that sometimes

[timber glacier]

I wonder which potions would be like criminalised in most civilisations in world

[eager bluff]

i would assume none of them

[timber glacier]

Well if they have laws around consent probably love potions would be dubious
Also like most are like steroids and stuff

[eager bluff]

oh yeah love potions

forgot about those

[timber glacier]

They’re actually now kinda useful in 1.4.5 since they got an effect

Increased happiness for npcs

[eager bluff]

steroids is weird because like in this case its not something you have to go out of your way to get you can just make them in your bedroom assuming you have the herbs

[timber glacier]

I do wonder how the hell the herbs do work since it isn’t very consistent what each herb does

[eager bluff]

wdym

when used in potions or otherwise

[timber glacier]

Like how does daybloom in one use make you see better and in another make you teleport home

Like I get its the other ingredients as well but like they’re kind of weirdly random in some ways what they do

[real glen]

terrarian using whole fish to make a potion

[timber glacier]

Like how does adding 1 shiverthorn to what would otherwise be an invis potion makes it make you better at building

Anyways so when a dragon got super perma killed by fovos what happened to their auric souls

Like did they just go bye bye or like did they just sit there

[eager bluff]

moon lord ate part of a few of them iirc

if they got super perma killed the soul would be damaged beyond repair so it would probably dissipate after enough time passed

[timber glacier]

The fall fovos had by the time we fight him is crazy
Like he went from stronger than all the dragon to weaker than a random dragon related bird (or like a door or a lightning worm)

Wait since fovos could perma kill the dragons what if in getfixedboi they made him able to perma kill the player even in softcore

[eager bluff]

horrible idea even for gfb

gfb is funny shitpost changes not you cannot die to this boss unless you want to permadie

[timber glacier]

Make it true getfixedboi in 1.4.5 only when every single seed is active

Also are the large dungeon spinning spike balls and blazing wheels being unkillable canon since that would probably make them the strongest entities in Calamity

[zenith geode]

ones a trap and the other is prolly just a bit of fire magic

[sinful adder]

Chemistry works like this

Alchemy would too presumably

[timber glacier]

Also are calamity alcohols just magic in universe or are they literally just the irl drinks

[sinful adder]

Magic

Magic plus alcohol

[timber glacier]

Me when I drink some grape beer and my arrows become heat seeking

Albeit some don’t have any magical ingredients yet somehow do making stuff which is weird

[split mortar]

Presumably they just
Got turned into pillars iirc

[timber glacier]

What about how zeratros soul got absorbed but also partially turned into the solar pillar

Wait since ontinilou (the jellyfish lady god) had domain over electricity and auric stuff has electrical traits couldn’t she like manipulate it in some way

[split mortar]

Prolly just the electricity of auric and i doubt she is strong enough to not get obliterated by it

[timber glacier]

Well she made sea prisms have like infinite energy so like she probably is insane when it comes to controlling electricity

[split mortar]

I do not see the correlation
One is making smth make a small bit of energy from nothing
One is getting punched by yharim because the metal is racist
Very different scales of power and usage of electricity control

[timber glacier]

I guess she wouldn’t really stop it I guess

Also like how powerful is the rejection thing actually on a person like is it 100% killing you or just like very repulsive physically

[pulsar ocean]

Braelor tanks it

no damage

so probably weak

[split mortar]

We can see how strong it is by touching it in game
Which iirc is pretty damn hurtful to someone with godslayer

[timber glacier]

Wait can gods like attune with people

[pulsar ocean]

Braelor doesn’t get hurt with wood armor

[timber glacier]

Is his armour like made of any special wood or is it just wood

[split mortar]

Yeah its just vibing eith someone well

[split mortar]

Silva armour prolly

[pulsar ocean]

How’d he craft it without killing dog

[split mortar]

Silva was alive back then

[pulsar ocean]

How’d silva craft it

[timber glacier]

I wonder how silva made silva armour hmmm I wonder

[split mortar]

She is god of life so clearly she can just spawn in buffed moon enemies to farm even if dog is dead

[timber glacier]

Mourning wood and everscream are trees so she could probably buff them and farm them

Since like shes nature elemental and stuff

[pulsar ocean]

what if silva got the soul of the death dragon

[pulsar ocean]

I was referring to the lack of a cosmic anvil but I guess bro

[split mortar]

Just use brealors muscles as the anvil

[timber glacier]

Braelor is in the distortion where there is the cosmilite is from

[split mortar]

He. Got. Distorted. After. Yharim. Fight.

[pulsar ocean]

how does dog get nutrients if his stomach is an automatic portal

[timber glacier]

Photosynthesis

[split mortar]

Idfk

[timber glacier]

How does dog clean his teeth so no plaque builds?

[scenic kraken]

He don't

That's why they are purple

Fun fact!

DoG likes to play CSGO

[scenic kraken]

Will we ever see the Gay Axe man?

Or is he just stuck

[timber glacier]

I think the plan is for him to appear in the distortion or something

[scenic kraken]

Nice

[west plume]

he doesn't chew i don't think

[timber glacier]

Alongside his gay ninja lover albeit statis will have like a whole quest thing to fight signus

[scenic kraken]

"Bro, yo boyfriend dead"

"What, how did he-"

"I killed him"

"Wh-"

"Signus took his body"

[timber glacier]

I think the plan is to fight signus to free statis body or something

[scenic kraken]

I wonder if there will be a thing like in Mod Of Redemption, where Braelor, Statis and Calamitas help us take down Yharim-

[timber glacier]

So no doomed yaoi there will be succeeding yaoi!

[timber glacier]

Calamitas specifically says she will not

[scenic kraken]

(in Mod of Redemption, King Slayer III will help you fight moon lord)

[timber glacier]

Hold on that sounds really epic

[scenic kraken]

IT ISSSS

[split mortar]

Devs have expressed desire for it to be a 1v1 where no one knows the outcome till one person emerges

[scenic kraken]

HE HAS HIS WHOLE BOSS MOVESET TOOOOOOOOO

[scenic kraken]

Huh, neat

[timber glacier]

Wait is that something currently in mod or redemption??

[scenic kraken]

Yeah I think

Good Path only tho

(which is funny, cause I only play good path)

-# (being evil makes me beeg sad)

[timber glacier]

Woah I gotta replay it to see that

But I will say I wonder if like braelor would help trying to free his bf in the signus fight because that would be so cool

[wanton pendant]

Since when did he do that?

I played the mod and don't remember that at all?

[scenic kraken]

Braelor fighting Signus

"Unhand my Signifianct other you Worthless pile of nether essence!"

"Glip glorp glarp F word slur galrp glop glip"

"...can he say that?"

[scenic kraken]

It just happened with me

I did complete his spaceship before moonlord tho

[timber glacier]

Well if he is possessing statis he kinda could say it maybe

But like it is kinda crazy how like statis and braelor could’ve killed yharim if dog didn’t like be an annoying cheater

[spark kindle]

statis couldve just locked in

[scenic kraken]

Motherfucker didn't respect the "NO OUTSIDERS" rule

[scenic kraken]

Hello #1 mage hater

I'm #1 melee lover

[timber glacier]

Yharim was about to lose but decided to summon his homophobic dog to send the gays to space hell

[scenic kraken]

"Yharim! I've come to fight you!"

"Draedron send the fucking mech this is Maxed out Auric Tesla terrarian with shadowspec weapons we're up against"

[spark kindle]

why do they not have demonshade

[scenic kraken]

Aura farming

I just prefer Auric Tesla to demon shade anyway

[timber glacier]

Draedon and yharim broke up he can’t call for his boytoy’s help from us

[spark kindle]

same

except on summoner

because it gives more minion slots

[scenic kraken]

Yharim once he realizes that he is fighting a infinitely respawning immortal fuckwad with the iq of a room temperature (he is nigh invincible):

[timber glacier]

Well he killed like 2 immortal characters effectively already

[scenic kraken]

Providence and DoG?

[timber glacier]

Silva and agnus

[split mortar]

Agnus like actually died

[scenic kraken]

Ohhh I thought you were talking about The Terrarian

[timber glacier]

He didn’t “kill silva” i guess but like silva is effectively neutralised

[scenic kraken]

Yeah no, how many immortals did The Terrarian kill-

[split mortar]

Agnus turned off the immortality to save his followers

[split mortar]

However many elementals you kill

[timber glacier]

Yharim on his way to kill everyone we love so we quit the game so we can’t kill him

[spark kindle]

you just described yharon pretty much

yharon canonically respawns after a few years

[scenic kraken]

Haha! You fool Yharim! I only love Solyn and she's already dead!

[timber glacier]

Well yharon has a 10 year respawn timer

[spark kindle]

also canonically the terrarian is in hardcore

[scenic kraken]

Ah

[split mortar]

Wait so yharon rebirths every 10 years due to rebirth limit or that just how long it takes for a dragon egg to hatch?

[spark kindle]

i think its the egg thing

[split mortar]

Good luck making it fit the setting where shit stays down but can prolly override that

[timber glacier]

I think it can actually be sped up by being heated up like how he was born when thrown into lava with yharid

[spark kindle]

✅

[timber glacier]

Why doesn’t yharim just pour some lava on yharons egg to re-hatch him immediately is he stupid

[spark kindle]

im fond of the idea that yharon wasnt actually at his full power because he was reborn prematurely

[timber glacier]

Bro wasn’t done cooking in the oven

[scenic kraken]

What if I'm a romanian who wanted to steal Yharim's copper

[spark kindle]

food poisoning

[split mortar]

I do not see why that would effect it, i don’t see a baby being born a week early being weaker in the long run

[timber glacier]

I do wonder if we’ll ever get like any chance to fight braelor and/or statis in like some kind of spar or something because that would be really cool

[scenic kraken]

Can we consider this canon-?

[split mortar]

That calamitas likes rain?

[scenic kraken]

Yes

[spark kindle]

well she likes the forest and also likes the change of scenery

[scenic kraken]

(also cloud elemental helping her to relive rain again-)

[spark kindle]

id see it being a real possibility

[scenic kraken]

Calamitas would make a great gardner

[split mortar]

Due to being an elemental cloud would more likely be trying to make a storm then help someone 💔

[scenic kraken]

The Elemental is from the Heart of the elements, trust

[spark kindle]

cloud from hit video game franchise final fantasy!?!?

[scenic kraken]

I can imagine Calamitas and Dryad drinking a nice cup of herbal tea while talking on a nice summer morning, after first tending to the flowers and plants ofc

[bleak hare]

yo looking at yuko the red's yharim suggestion ion think noone should help us fight him but we have the option to either spare or kill him and if we spare him he helps us kill xeroc to finally fulfil his oath that "all gods will die" to finally redeem himself

also hotog isn't cannon but is goozma as like the first god that is the descendant of all living things billions of years ago since we simply revive him in hotdog

[split mortar]

Yharim would just continue fighting us if we tried to spare him
Cannot spare who does not care, also does not deserve to be spared
Also xeroc can prob just fry us both im ngl

[bleak hare]

why does he not deserve to be spared

he aint that bad

he still meant well i think

mostly

[timber glacier]

He commited genocide blud

[bleak hare]

so did the gods

justice

[timber glacier]

Not all of them

Also like he also killed like half of the worlds population or something

[split mortar]

The gods are not a unified force and did not also obliterate a massive chunk of thr worlds population

Theres a reason piss hitler is a common nickname for yharim

[timber glacier]

He also groomed calamitas as a child so she would kill like an entire civilisation

[split mortar]

Also read skeletron primes lore whisper

[scenic kraken]

My brother in christ, He is worse than GRAND REGENT THRAGG

[split mortar]

😭 really?

[scenic kraken]

From what I read

Yes!

Yes he is!

[timber glacier]

Like yharim is like really really bad

Albeit he isn’t like technically fully evil cos like he was against using bees as slave but still

[sacred pilot]

He had no problem treating Calamitas as effectively a slave.

A living weapon.

[spark kindle]

and in his protest against the plague he released it into the jungle

[sinful adder]

Do you like. Know the lore at all

What are you on here

[spark kindle]

yharim literally killed thousands of people himself

[sinful adder]

The dragons: were mostly tyrants that treated humans like animals for thousands of years
The gods: hunted dragons for their souls. Some of them did good and some did evil with it. There was no united effort to kill all the dragons. A few thousand dragons were killed.
Yharim:
Killed hundreds of millions of people and several thousand gods. Most of them never had a chance, nor any option to surrender.

[sinful adder]

Also. That wouldn't be redemption. He's a liar and his mission was wrong from the start.

[sacred pilot]

Mods. Crush their skull.

[pulsar ocean]

Why’d you want to do that to ben

[timber glacier]

Also like he literally can never kill all the gods his goal was doomed from the start

[robust osprey]

mmmhh yes I will make a crusade to kill The Sun

that will surely work yes

[timber glacier]

Did yharim really think he could kill also a god who will always come back unless all nature on the planet is gone

[timber glacier]

Hollow knight reference!!!

[soft flame]

i don’t think he knows if silva’s actually dead, just her “influence” took part of the abyss granting it life

[scenic kraken]

Silva lowkey kinda bad-

I mean what

[soft flame]

[timber glacier]

I mean like she’ll always come back and he can never actually fufill his goal

[robust osprey]

the only one with a MINIMAL chance at killing silva really is draedon beacuse I doubt he counts as life so he wouldnt need to kill himself for silva to die

[scenic kraken]

Also, is there a weapon that's Braelor's axe-?

In the mod?

[timber glacier]

No there isn’t

[scenic kraken]

Ah I see

[soft flame]

really a matter of if he knows that

[timber glacier]

Didn’t he kill silva and she came back once before

Shes also an elemental and like thats what they do

[magic epoch]

feller of evergreens is the closest iwthjnk

[robust osprey]

he knows that he threw her into the abyss for a reason

[wanton pendant]

Not to our knowledge.

[scenic kraken]

Reminder to myself, I'll never be able to kill gods and goddesses like Yharim

CAUSE GOD D A M N

I would FOLD

[split mortar]

This Her post ascension btw

[scenic kraken]

F O L D E D

[pulsar ocean]

yharim shouldn’t have picked you

[scenic kraken]

Who said He picked me?

I'M THE GUY WHO PICKED ON HIM WHILE HE WAS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!

[timber glacier]

I wonder why she doesn’t really at all look how the other elementals do she just looks like a human

[split mortar]

Well
The others are inorganic elements
She is the nature elemental

[scenic kraken]

Because she was always in touch with her inner human

[pulsar ocean]

why did yharim drop her into the abyss instead of throwing her into outer space if it’s so easy to get there in game

[scenic kraken]

Yharim didn't want a Kars situation

QUESTION