lore-discussion

[split mortar]

Also the universe can tear in calamity

Or fissure

[eternal veldt]

Ark

Lol

[split mortar]

No the distortion

[eternal veldt]

You can cut reality 🙏

I can make origami of someone's existance

[split mortar]

Its a tear in the universe of unknown size and unlike other cuts the distortion is not healing but actually sapping energy from the universe

[split mortar]

Is it universe cancer

[eternal veldt]

Imma make it into a swan 🙏

[sinful adder]

Player: doesn't exist, so becomes intangible.
NPCs: become alternate timeline versions of themselves
Most objects: Get reversed in time
Most living creatures: turn into strange floating spirits or turn invisible
Some objects: swap with others, probably alternate timeline thing like the NPCs

[eternal veldt]

Tumor 🙏

[timber glacier]

There are so many weird transmutations, like gummy worm, peddler’s satchel and advanced combat techniques II, which are all changing in strange ways

[eternal veldt]

How does the no no water write the second version of a book 🙏

[timber glacier]

Its a professional fanfic writer

[eternal veldt]

Like bro can i just put a book in it and it will write the next chapter for me? I wanna have shimmer then!!!

🙏

[sinful adder]

Consider a universe made of oil. You can burn the oil and leave an empty space behind. Most of the time, more oil will flood back into the empty space. However, if you have certain structures or freeze the oil, then you can create a large and large hole.
The normal world is the frozen oil, and the distortion is the hole in the frozen oil, spreading to get more fuel to eat

[timber glacier]

Why can shimmer turn some string into a box into a earing into a string

[sinful adder]

You're trading with an alternate universe where you had the other item in the chain

[waxen summit]

why calamity does not have it's boks

like lore would be much easier to understund if it had books

[timber glacier]

The lore would be easier to understand if it was at all in the actual game

[eternal veldt]

Soooo i can get the unreleased chapter of one piece with shimmer then?

[sinful adder]

Writing a book of hard??? And they're Making a game???

[timber glacier]

Its like we’d be trading with some kind of Terraria Otherworld

[waxen summit]

some games use books

for make lore understandable

[sinful adder]

Only if you could have already had it in an alternate universe

[sinful adder]

I don't know any that do. It is hard to understand what you are saying

[eternal veldt]

Lmao imagine someone from an alternate dimension wants to read the old chapter and you just trading with them LMAO

[split mortar]

There may be some books in game in the future

[eternal veldt]

Ok bro here's chapter 2 let me have chapter 3

[split mortar]

English aint their first language iirc

[sinful adder]

Fair

[eternal veldt]

Also calamity lore would be easier if the mod actually implements it other than hitler whispering in your ear from time to time

[timber glacier]

Actual world building would help so much

[eternal veldt]

This why i like the new devourer of god

Bro actually talks to us

Still an oversized bait

[waxen summit]

yharim is savior fr

[eternal veldt]

Though

[sinful adder]

I can't tell if you're joking

[timber glacier]

Yharim is like an incredibly unreliable and biased commentor

[waxen summit]

same

[sinful adder]

He's lying and he's actually the most evil person to ever live

[eternal veldt]

Imma be calling yharim trump cuz bro groomed a minor to commit genocide.

[split mortar]

Yharim, also known as super shiny 5 star piss hitler

[waxen summit]

isn't he regret things he have done

[timber glacier]

He’s not “lying” all the time but isn’t going to be entirely correct

[eternal veldt]

No he regrets not finishing it

He still has targets

[split mortar]

Not really
He regrets grooming a child into doing it when he should have went done it instead basically

[waxen summit]

noxus and xeroc?

[sinful adder]

He doesn't regret killing all those people. He regrets getting a child to kill all those people when he should have done it himself

[waxen summit]

wth

[sinful adder]

Yeah

That's how he sees it

[split mortar]

Yharim is delusional and is not a good person

[timber glacier]

He probs regrets trusting draedon cos he enslaved the bees

[eternal veldt]

Tbh though if yharim was the one to go into ilmaris the whole kingdome would hav not survived

[sinful adder]

He's also fairly good at lying to people, as shown by the fact that he tricked you

[split mortar]

Yharim was weaker then scal back then so thats debatable
Hell yharim is still less destructive then scal

[sinful adder]

Usually not exactly lying. Lying by telling half-truths

[eternal veldt]

Lol alot of new terrarians actually believed he's the good guy

[sinful adder]

Yeah

[eternal veldt]

Yes but he instead of torching the surfaces he would have gone underwater and start slashing

Wait is yharim a meelee or a mage?

[timber glacier]

Definitely melee

[eternal veldt]

IMAGINE IF HE'SA DAMN RANGER XD

[sinful adder]

Melee

[split mortar]

Mostly melee with some mage if we look at the yomi hustle mod

[timber glacier]

Hes actually gonna be summoner

[eternal veldt]

Valid.... calamitas LMAO

[split mortar]

Yharims crystal is like 5 times larger if yharim uses it iirc

[waxen summit]

i am in calamity since 2 year yet i thought he is good

[eternal veldt]

Bro fell for the propaganda

LMAO

Calamitas 2.0

[eternal veldt]

Go kill slime god for me kid 🙏

The hallow is evil trust me 🙏

[waxen summit]

but but he like bees!

[timber glacier]

Silva is totally the bad guy

[split mortar]

We got a high end kill count of the crusade from syrup that had
The world pre crusade: roughly 3 billion
The world post crusade: high millions

This

[eternal veldt]

Bees are the worst bro 😭

[eternal veldt]

You should be executed for saying that

[waxen summit]

but bees-

[eternal veldt]

They push me off platforms by firing aimbot needles i hate them

[timber glacier]

He heard that bees are essetial to the ecosystem and thought they were the perfect lifeform

[sinful adder]

You can be evil and still like bees

[waxen summit]

i use them for kill wof

[timber glacier]

Isn’t that hornets not bees

[eternal veldt]

Bees also do it when a funny skeleton fires an arrow on their hive

[waxen summit]

if a unicorn try to kill me i will belive him ofc

[timber glacier]

What would yharim do if he met like the god of bees

[waxen summit]

i died on hallow more then corruption

[split mortar]

Kill

[waxen summit]

tame

[eternal veldt]

You killed a dead god 🙏 hallow probobly thinks you are yharim 2.0

[waxen summit]

yharim is good guy you guys fall for proghanda

gods try to make you guys think it

[eternal veldt]

Don't get us wrong we also hate gods 🙏

[split mortar]

Yharim admits to having the civilian burning division and then commissioning the civilian burning robot 9000 fuelled by their souls

[waxen summit]

even if i go to hardmode with only killing wof it gona attack me

[timber glacier]

I will say yharim is very bad but like he does have a reason to think the way he does which is really good characterisation

[eternal veldt]

You killed a dead god which is WOF

[split mortar]

Yharim is a unforgivable monster
But he is human

[waxen summit]

wait it is also god?

[eternal veldt]

You killed 2 dead gods

[mighty zenith]

no it is not

[eternal veldt]

Wait really?

I thought it was?

[timber glacier]

Learning of the killing of all the dragons in some ways can make one understand why he acted how he did

[split mortar]

No it stores dead gods

[mighty zenith]

wall of flesh was made to contain god essence (which is why the hallow and evil biome are formed after it dies)

its basically flesh prison from ultrakill

[sacred pilot]

Yharon doesn't get enough hate.

[waxen summit]

yharon is a big nugget

[eternal veldt]

Ohhh sooooo that means the dead gods just got back to the outside then...

[timber glacier]

Yharon’s entire species was genocided so like I kinda get why hes the way he is now

[eternal veldt]

Does that make hallow hate you for it

Hold on why does the gallow hate us again?

[waxen summit]

you set him free

then he try to kill you

it is evil

[mighty zenith]

it doesnt necessarily hate you

[waxen summit]

yharim was right

[sacred pilot]

Yes.

He also was an active participant in genocide.

[timber glacier]

??? What how did he participate

[waxen summit]

if there is real evil it is draedon and xeroc tbh

[eternal veldt]

Yharim

Yharim was carried by teamates i swear

[timber glacier]

Oh i misunderstood

[mighty zenith]

the hallow itself is much more pleasant to be around than the corruption and crimson given NPCs can actually like it

[waxen summit]

yharim is stronger then scal btw

[eternal veldt]

.... so it just hates us then 😭

[split mortar]

Xeroc is probably the reason why the world didnt end centuries ago to noxus

[waxen summit]

we have almost 0 lore dropt for noxus

[eternal veldt]

Scal used to be stronger

[mighty zenith]

no, the creatures that are formed in it just act the same way as with other remains of gods

[eternal veldt]

Noxus lore gonna be released when xeroc reveals his plans to do with us. Or when he asks for our help.

[split mortar]

And what we do know heavily hints at noxus being similar to moonlord
An existential threat to everyone on the planet that not really anyone can stop easily

[sacred pilot]

The Crusade.

[mighty zenith]

its atmosphere is different but its still formed from dead gods

[eternal veldt]

I see

Btw when yharim said the mech trio was looking for the devine and unfortunately it has us in its crosshairs what does that mean?

[mighty zenith]

well

[split mortar]

You killed wof, you stink

[mighty zenith]

you've been involved with gods

slime god, the evil biomes, wall of flesh

so yeah, you basically stink of god

[eternal veldt]

Wouldn't it just think that we're an ally?

[eternal veldt]

Cuz yk... killed dead ones and defeated a god?

[waxen summit]

what if i just skip progresison

[eternal veldt]

Maybe wof since it's holding the dead ones sure

[mighty zenith]

they've been going at it for a while, the mechs seem to just target whatever has enough godly data

[timber glacier]

We hadn’t fully defeated any gods at the point of the mechs

[mighty zenith]

and there's been an absence of gods lately so they choose to kill you

[eternal veldt]

LMAO

[mighty zenith]

you can kill slime god before fighting them

[waxen summit]

what if i don't

[split mortar]

The boss summons for the mechs demand god essence be used somewhat so thats not really possible to avoid the meddling with god essence to fight them bit
Even if the summons are not really canon

[mighty zenith]

you still kill wall of flesh which is full of dead gods

[timber glacier]

I guess but queen slime is very optional and the order of early hardmode bosses is flexible

[eternal veldt]

Imagine a goodseeker killing another god finally after a decade and the mechs are just like... YOU DARE!!!

[mighty zenith]

the lack of distinct yharim army features probably also has something to do with it

[split mortar]

You can shimmer roxcalibur but thats donor, and also releases god essence via souls of night so uh still god meddling

[timber glacier]

Can’t you technically also do stuff through beating ravager early

[eternal veldt]

I see.

[eternal veldt]

If you are brave enough 🙏

[timber glacier]

Like since you can craft that early through entering the temple early

[waxen summit]

yharim is good guy

[eternal veldt]

Ahh yes the hoiks.

Yharim actually used it to enter a god's domain

🙏

[split mortar]

Moons evil

[timber glacier]

You can also just sit outside infront of some walls and still spawn some enemies potentially

[eternal veldt]

Don't they only spawn after plantera?

[timber glacier]

No? The enemies can spawn even pre-boss

[eternal veldt]

LMAO summon ravager pre hardmode!!!!

[timber glacier]

Its now possible since they made it craftable at a demon altar instead of hardmode anvil

[split mortar]

Draedon the Moonlord is dead why did you stop your space program?

Moons evil

What

[timber glacier]

It is funny how like the moon is evil and like doesn’t it have like nothing to do with moon lord being sent there

[eternal veldt]

Nope. Just the moon

[split mortar]

Moons been evil longer then the auric dragons have existed

[timber glacier]

How to the enchanted sun and moondial work in calamity lore

Is it just magic

[waxen summit]

draedon is probably danger itself

he did not stabilized miracle material

yet made machines can rival scal

[split mortar]

They fill you with drugs and time just passes stupidly quickly from your perspective

[eternal veldt]

Terrarian has more potential than draedon

[waxen summit]

terrarian needed knowladge from draedon

for craft weapons

[eternal veldt]

Unfortunately. terrarians have ADHD

[eternal veldt]

Just the anvil

[waxen summit]

or help from guide

[waxen summit]

you need search some draedon labs for use his weaponoary

[timber glacier]

Yeah but like we can like make incredibly complex stuff without him and only really need him just for the forge

[eternal veldt]

No you can just know things without guide checks

[waxen summit]

guide know how to make miracle matter for some reason

[split mortar]

Gameplay moment i think

[waxen summit]

meanwhile draedon stuggle

[timber glacier]

How does the guide know how to make auric bars

[eternal veldt]

Guide and terrarian being smarter than draedon is hilarious to me

[waxen summit]

he read every book possible

[eternal veldt]

Yes actually

[split mortar]

Guide should realistically be dead when we fight wof

[eternal veldt]

Just yes

[waxen summit]

lmao draedon should hire guide

[waxen summit]

even in early game if you have a part of miracle matter he still gona give recipe

[eternal veldt]

What do we expect terrarian is schizophrenic after all LMAO. Torch god 😭

[split mortar]

Doesnt amidias also know about rejection or smth
P sire amidias dialogue is the only reason we even know about how rejection works

[waxen summit]

guide is strongest in lore🔥

[timber glacier]

Yeah but knowing what auric is vs how to actually make it is very different knowledge

[split mortar]

Guide misses his wife and he will be back

[eternal veldt]

Guide is simply terrarian's imaginary friend

[waxen summit]

fr

i am glad guide in game

i can't craft life alloy without him

i keep forgot materials

[timber glacier]

I will say were acting like the guides just some guy but he is directly tied to the wof, and like demons like in someways like worship him or something

[eternal veldt]

He's a warlock

[waxen summit]

guide is god of knowladge confirmed

[eternal veldt]

Im serious. He's a warlock

[timber glacier]

The dragon of mind didn’t actually die the guide just absorbed their soul

[split mortar]

Yeah guide is a shepherd of the wof and is basically a non ascended minor deity of the demons iirc

[eternal veldt]

Ngl for a warlock he is weak as hell. Bro dies to zombies. Use your voodoo magic bro???

[split mortar]

Lost them when he lost his wife clealry

[eternal veldt]

Ahh the classic

Wife takes everything

🥀

(It was a joke please don't flame me)

:<

[timber glacier]

Guide’s ex is totally the lunatic cultist trust

Wait random question why are there clothier voodoo dolls in calamity lore

[split mortar]

Ways of worship of the guide or an attempt to channel the same power over wof he does i think

[timber glacier]

? I said clothier not guide

[split mortar]

Oh oops

Uhh

Idfk

[timber glacier]

The dungeon inhabitants are all just chippygaming fans

[split mortar]

Maybe ways for the cultists to punish the clothier if he deserted his spot

[timber glacier]

They have plushes of him

Also doesn’t the old man like visually die when you fight skeletron

Like doesn’t he visually kind of explode into gore or something

[eternal veldt]

He gets reformed back maybe.

[timber glacier]

Also now that I think about it isn’t it not “canonically possible” to have the princess move in cos the guide dies when you fight wof

Also tavernkeep also just isn’t canon

[feral skiff]

yeah of course that would happen, he is transforming into a giant killer skeleton

[timber glacier]

But does he actually turn into it or does he kinda summon it or what

Also is there a reason why the abyss creatures like insanely strong

Like why are collosal squids so strong

[west plume]

do remember that the crusade only happened recently and its likely most gods were already dead before yharim had started

more than a few gods probably died of beating each other to death before yharim became something to actually worry about dying to

[timber glacier]

I am curious about the general order of how strong the gods we know of are, like from “weakest” to strongest

[west plume]

ascended domains are generally phenomena (experiences of things happening) and not matter, so i dont think a Dragon of Gold would exist. i do think a Dragon of Transmutation or Forging would exist

[icy veldt]

Maybe they saw him as a funny goofy mascot or something, basically just making fun of his suffering

[timber glacier]

Weren’t like everyone in the dungeon dead by the time he was cursed

But like hear me out Dragon of Twos, with the domain over the phenomena of there being 2 of something

[icy veldt]

Oh wait, I thought it would've been the Draconic Cult that had those dolls. I dunno why I assumed that 💀

[west plume]

none of the gods known about are anywhere near the weakest i dont think. xeroc, shakidou and i think war were likely some of the strongest

in order to have a weak god domain it has to be a phenomena that is highly specific such that having infinite stamina to cast magics within it doesn't materially help you

[timber glacier]

Silva and Agnus are kind of a weird thing when trying to compare strength also cos they’re both kind of immortal

[west plume]

a theoretical God of Running would be a very weak god but would be able to sprint like, forever

or make you sprint forever

[timber glacier]

I’d argue god of sprinting would be good cos half of calamities bosses can be beaten by running in a straight line so they’d be kinda cracked

[west plume]

this is true

[west plume]

immortality isn't very useful if you can't leverage it. silva is basically ineffective due to her being at the bottom of the abyss

[timber glacier]

I guess bit like Silva effectively can’t ever be fully beaten

[west plume]

you could effectively disable silva by throwing her into a big body of water

she can't get up and fight you back

[timber glacier]

But also like she also kind of also has Braelor and Statis who even just those two together can rival yharim in strength

Also why can providence use fire if her domain is ash and not fire

[icy veldt]

Fire turns things into ash

[west plume]

domains play it kind of fast and loose. i think in providence's case fire produces ash so she can produce as much sooty fire as she wants

[icy veldt]

I imagine that'd also cause respiratory issues

[timber glacier]

But like the dragon she absorbed was the one of flames, but the ascension was imperfect, but if she can still use fire that makes imperfect ascensions weirdly inconsistant

[icy veldt]

An imperfect ascension is simply one where the domain doesn't stay the exact same. From what I've gathered, having a domain doesn't hold people back from using other kinds of magic, its effect in that regard is making them much more powerful in what that domain is

[west plume]

imperfect ascension distorts the domain in your favor but does not necessarily shift it to where the previous domain is not included

you augment the shard with the addition of your soul basically and you unconsciously decide which powers you use from it at the time of ascension

[timber glacier]

I guess but like she literally basically uses 0 ash-related attacks in her fight while almost exclusively using fire attacks

[icy veldt]

What would an ash-related attack even look like?

[west plume]

y would she attack you with ash

[timber glacier]

Ash tornado

[icy veldt]

"I cast black lung disease!"

[timber glacier]

Explosive ash powder that explode after some time

Genuinely it could be better is there was some ash-themed aspect for providence, like maybe the fight features an ashstorm like background effect during it

[west plume]

potentially

[timber glacier]

As is it just feels like shes the goddess of ash because they can’t have had her do a perfect ascension but like she effectively is just a goddess of fire in her fight

Actually now that I think about it I just realised don’t most imperfect ascensions result in a domain that is kind of what the original domain creates

Fire makes Ash
Storms make Electricity
Death kind of is how one makes Sacrifices

[west plume]

providence seeks the end of all things so her domain shifted to being the end result of fire

for electricity and sacrifices they r different tho

[timber glacier]

Also why did the domain that agnus have after being revived as ravager change cos didn’t it become blood

[west plume]

domains aren't technically fixed and if something really bad happens to you while you still hold the shard, it can change fundamentally

agnus is a case where something really bad happened in a scenario where he was not meant to keep holding that shard and then became an entirely different person mentally

so the domain changed to reflect it

[timber glacier]

Isn’t he not really a “person” since most necromancy in calamity result in basically something without any resemblance to what they were pre-death

He just kills stuff now

[west plume]

ravager is Something. i dont think theres any mind left

but he is a different being than what was used to create him

[timber glacier]

I’d imagine it would have some kind of neural system thing since it would react to stimuli

But like not any sense of proper thinking

I will say ravager being god of blood but being unrelated to the crimson and blood moons is kind of weird but like it also does make sense to not force every blood thing to be related

Also I will say with calamity lore it feels like every remotely kind or nice character has to have gone through immesurable trauma or died in the most horrible ways, and some were even turned into monsters that destroyed everything they loved

I guess calamity mod lore is a tale of a cruel world

Also random thing, what importance that tyrian have because like what does he even do

Like I know he helped unify illmera or whatever but like so did Otonilou and she also made the sea prisms as they are and also according to the lore doc was stated to be like a ruler of it

Also the lore doc describes him as being good at combat im water but like he was nowhere to be found when illmeris actually needed defending

[west plume]

how was tyrian supposed to counter being boiled from 500ft in the air

[timber glacier]

I dunno but like he isn’t even noted if he was there or not

So ever he was a coward and didn’t try to fight, died in the least important way ever or just idk died of a heart attack before hand

[waxen summit]

what he is meant to be

[west plume]

ravager is an undead beast

[waxen summit]

what are non most ones

[waxen summit]

thats it?

[west plume]

yeah

he is a mindless zombie brute

[waxen summit]

what about old duke

[timber glacier]

Mainly Skeleton merchant since hes a weird case

[west plume]

old duke is a dragon of the non-auric variety

[waxen summit]

so this 2 are just this?

[west plume]

yeah

[timber glacier]

Also like doesn’t water beat fire he should solo calamitas since hes god of the seas

[west plume]

yeah squirt water at her tyrian!!!

thatll stop her from turning the entirety of the lake into a soup

[timber glacier]

Just put out the fire bro

[waxen summit]

uh i expected more from bosses

[west plume]

read da lore doc for more

[waxen summit]

it is still part part

it does not tell full story

[west plume]

what they are doesnt have much to do with their character i dont think

[waxen summit]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-7131421628894903427

[west plume]

?

[timber glacier]

Also is there a reason tyrian isn’t confirmed to have or not died in ilmeris’ incineration

Like is he like still alive and like idk is he gonna show up at some point

Or is he so unimportant people nobody cared to tell people he died

[eternal veldt]

Who the hell is tyrian

[timber glacier]

God of the seas

Hes in the lore documents

[eternal veldt]

Dunno. All i care about is that jellyfish lady 🙏

[timber glacier]

Tyrian gives Slime God a run for its money in terms of the least important god we know of

Wait hear me out tyrian is still alive and during the yharim fight yharim will do something and become immortal and tyrian will show up and save the day

But like since isn’t the plan that defeating signus will free statis, wouldn’t he want to help us defeat yharim

Like imagine if like during yharim fight some of the characters help us like permafrost, statis, braelor, etc

[eternal veldt]

Isn't braelor dead

[timber glacier]

I thought he was trapped in the distortion like his bf

[eternal veldt]

Def dead 😭

[scenic kraken]

Doomed Yaoi art of Braelor and Statis NOW

[eternal veldt]

IM WORKING ON IT!!!

[timber glacier]

I’m pretty sure there was a plan for us to be actually be able to find him as a npc in the distortion

[scenic kraken]

Wait huh?

I
I was kidding

But cook.

[eternal veldt]

Maybe when we do an expedition

After all maybe xeroc has plans for us

[waxen summit]

btw what happen to auric soul when a dragon dies

[scenic kraken]

The Terrarian so tuff he lowdiffs the distortion

[eternal veldt]

Goes to the aeri

[timber glacier]

Also like he can actually stand a chance against yharim in a fight he could probably fend off some of the distortion inhabitants

[eternal veldt]

Yharim is a fraud 😭

[waxen summit]

no all hail yharim

[scenic kraken]

Yharim get's solo'd by Engineer tf2

Why engi?

Cause why not engi

[timber glacier]

Yharim isn’t a fraud hes actually cracked

[eternal veldt]

Unless an auric soul is consumed it just fucks off to the dragon dimension and stays there

[waxen summit]

stronger then scal

[wanton pendant]

Only Yharon's does that.

[eternal veldt]

Really?

[waxen summit]

they have dimension?

[eternal veldt]

No

[wanton pendant]

If all of them did becoming a god would be way harder.

[eternal veldt]

Would've been hilarious though

[wanton pendant]

I recall it being the location where rebirths occured however.

[eternal veldt]

But where does the soul go?

[wanton pendant]

Stays where it is.

[waxen summit]

maybe it turn into corruption?

[wanton pendant]

No.

[scenic kraken]

But can he beat goku/j

[eternal veldt]

Annnndddd people just never sees it?

[wanton pendant]

They did.

[waxen summit]

with help of some outverse guys he can

[timber glacier]

Depends on the context of the fight

[wanton pendant]

They then took it and used it to become a god.

[eternal veldt]

I see yharon pretty op then

[wanton pendant]

He's the second strongest of his kind in history.

[waxen summit]

wait he is?

what about noxus

[scenic kraken]

And Prime Moon lord

Ate them like Nuggets

[wanton pendant]

Noxus isn't a dragon!?

[waxen summit]

where did he got his soul

[timber glacier]

Yeah hes only second to like the dragon king but noxus aint a dragon

[scenic kraken]

Noxus ain't a dragon

[waxen summit]

the soul noxy used

[timber glacier]

Noxus never used a soul

[wanton pendant]

???

[timber glacier]

He aint a god

[waxen summit]

oh

[timber glacier]

Hes something else entirely

[scenic kraken]

Oh yeah, Noxus is a False God

[wanton pendant]

???

[timber glacier]

No he just isn’t at all a god

[waxen summit]

how many auric soul you can use

[scenic kraken]

Or... Entropy personified?

Idk I'm rusty

[wanton pendant]

1, more and you go crazy and after three you become an amalgamation.

[wanton pendant]

?

[timber glacier]

Iirc noxus being a god used to be something but it isn’t anymore the case

[waxen summit]

i want to see somone get more then 3-4

[scenic kraken]

OHHHHHHH so that's the lore I remember

[wanton pendant]

Four is impossible.

You would be too insane by then.

[scenic kraken]

HOLY SHIT, DARK SOULS REFFRENCE?!

[waxen summit]

maybe somone can handle

[wanton pendant]

It's not possible.

You would have far too many souls.

[scenic kraken]

Hmm

Is it possible to infuse somebody else with the souls?

[wanton pendant]

Each Auric Soul is two souls already. Becoming a god means you have three.

[timber glacier]

What if it like a fish which doesn’t have a concept of sanity to become insane is ascended four times

[wanton pendant]

Probably, but it wouldn't be a great idea.

[waxen summit]

tbh there is nothing stop somone from having more then 3

[scenic kraken]

...new boss idea...

[wanton pendant]

Normal fish aren't smart enough.

[wanton pendant]

Having three would turn you into something like Polterghast.

[waxen summit]

infuse with force

[waxen summit]

still a godly creature

[timber glacier]

Thats just kind of polterghast and the planned evil 2 post moonlord shifts but with extra steps

[wanton pendant]

Probably not how it works.

[wanton pendant]

Which can't get more.

[waxen summit]

btw which source you have for it

i don't remember anything about this on neither lore document or dev explanatipn

[scenic kraken]

Then again, it looks like Gods in Calamity ain't allat

[wanton pendant]

I wrote it into the document myself.

[scenic kraken]

Besides Xeroc ofc

[waxen summit]

they call themselved god but they die to a guy love bees

[wanton pendant]

Slime God can destroy armies.

[scenic kraken]

Yet... Dies to a single man/woman...

[waxen summit]

terrarian is cracked

[scenic kraken]

Then again, The Terrarian is JUST HIM

[wanton pendant]

You're not normal.

[timber glacier]

Well only because it was stuck mid transition into a new body

[scenic kraken]

Sooo the slime god we fight IS Goozma?

[timber glacier]

It could’ve gotten away like it does in it’s first fight (queen slime is canonically slime god too)

Goozma isn’t canon

[scenic kraken]

Ah

Yharim:
"IT'S JUST ONE DUDE, HOW THE FUCK IS HE SO STRONG"

The Terrarian:
Home Depot theme

[wanton pendant]

Only way Goozma can be canon is if they reveal that's Slime God's actual name.
Anyway, Devs, I have a great idea!

[scenic kraken]

Put the Stealth exploit back in/j

[timber glacier]

Slime god is actually guzma from pokemon after ascending totally

[scenic kraken]

Introduce a wulfrum equivalent in HM/J

[timber glacier]

It is interesting how diverse the overall strengths of the gods are in calamity

Like slime god is still not too insane to defeat and like some like tyrian did so little major feats but then like xeroc can like make the sun not literally kill everyone and like Providence is incredibly strong and could maybe end up killing everyone

I would love to actually ever get to in some form fights against like the various now dead/dead-adjacent gods even if its like even through like an addon mod

Like imagine if there were like fights against like Otonilou, Agnus, Shakidou, War, Dogma, Silva and Agnus when they were alive

Like obviously literally fighting them wouldn’t make sense but like if it were like some kind of case where you’re fighting like fighting some kind of memory of them could be cool

[cosmic zenith]

Still the case

[wanton pendant]

I think Tyrian was meant to be really strong. Same with Otonilou given what had to be deployed to take them out.

[eternal veldt]

Did the gods join forces to stop yharim or were they taken out individually

[wanton pendant]

Some gods would have been aligned with each other, but there was never hope of a unified coalition against Yharim.

Even if the nicer gods were willing to work with the more immoral gods due to shared interest, there are some REALLY evil gods. (Providence, for example.)

And I'd assume in the early days many gods either assumed they weren't a target or could defend themselves.

By the time a threat would be apparent Yharim would have already taken steps to sever supply and communication lines that would make collaboration easy.

[eternal veldt]

So basically ego and ignorance killed them?

[wanton pendant]

Some of them probably.

Like, if you were a benevolent god and you were informed someone had killed Dogma and War, if you knew of their behaviour you would assume they wouldn't be after you next.

[west plume]

yeah

i dont think tyrian was a weak god but theres not really much counter to doing the fish equivalent of boiling the atmosphere

exit the water, figure out how to fly and then attack calamitas for 4 minutes until you asphyxiate

[wanton pendant]

Becomes a god but still has to live in water. Should have become the God of Lungfish.

[untold kindle]

тут

ну короче

лс

[wanton pendant]

This server requires you to use English, sorry.

[raven brook]

i wouldn't really say that

some, sure

but it is a massive generalization and i think expecting the gods to all unify together for a common goal when theyre all entirely different individuals with their own ideologies and views on things would be impossible

like you cant really get the god of healing babies and saving kittens to work with providence in any circumstance

[trim edge]

were all the gods except silva human

[raven brook]

no

tyrian and otonilou weren't, for one

and i mean its kinda just basic deduction, in a world with multiple sapient species and the only real requirement to be able to perform the ritual being able to understand it

thered surely be others that werent humans

i mean for all we know some of the gods we know already might not be

theres nothing explicitly saying slime god, providence, agnus, war and dogma were human

i like to think atleast one of the gods we know of will turn out to be like a ogblin or something because itd be funny

pretty sure xeroc is the only one we know is definitely a human since we have his pre ascencion concept art

[young socket]

they could be a goblin under that mask actually

you never know

[dusk laurel]

🟢

[wanton pendant]

Goblin with albinism, obviously.

[west plume]

basically every god went like 'huh, well, i didn't do anything wrong so its not like yharim will come for me'

then yharim came for them

[raven brook]

by the time itd become plain obvious yharim wanted to kill each and every single one of them it'd probably have been too late

"well dogma nad war were pieces of shit so surely hes a good guy"
"well that last guy he killed uhhh. well he was kinda weird so surely"
"well uhhhh uhhh maybe he just uhhhh"

[mighty zenith]

yharim deniers be like must have been the uhmmm uhh uhmm

[west plume]

like realistically who would want to kill Every god

like 5 gods? fine, they had it coming

10? pushing it a lil but someone will fight back eventually

100? uh oh

and you only hear about the 100 number when the actual number is 150 because all communication and trade has been shut down

you rush to fortify the borders of your settlement but godseeker knights are at your gates

you try desperately to run into the nearest building but you cannot hide your sigil. yharon lands from the skies and torches the building you are in

the last thing you see before being burnt to a crisp, your god power offering just barely enough strength to keep you alive longer than the average person, is everyone in your settlement being skewered so they can't run away and blab and the camp being razed to the ground so no evidence is left of the event

your essence is thrown in a ditch

[raw nest]

bruh was there a single god that put up somewhat of a challenge?

[robust osprey]

there were a few

like shakidou iirc

and providence since she is

well

still alive

even if the challenge was more to find her rather to fight her

[raven brook]

Yo mama. Hah. Gottem.

[wanton pendant]

Otonilou and Tyrian, considering how Ilmeris apparently held its own against Yharim's forces until the incident.

[feral skiff]

calamity would be such a good setting to write a novel about

especially from the perspective that isn’t one of the major characters

[wanton pendant]

Calamity from Bloingus' perspective.

[sacred pilot]

Maybe one from the perspective of like.

Someone living in cities occupied by Yharim's forces.

Or resistance.

[wanton pendant]

"I love tungsten man."
-Anti-Yharim rebel after thirteen hours of advanced interrogation.

[noble falcon]

How far could donkey Kong make it through calamity, assuming no bosses or events get skipped
He gets Bananza transformations too

[wanton pendant]

Does he get his coconut gun and/or Diddy?

[rain osprey]

didn't DK like. punch a moon out of orbit in one game

i think he clears easy

[visual kiln]

not sunny

[wanton pendant]

Wasn't the real moon, it was small and bouncy.

[terse moss]

DK lifted a ship while standing on it

He totally clears

[sterile robin]

what is the supposed boss after calamitas

yharim?

[robust osprey]

yea

[sterile robin]

theoretically since calamitas is a mage what would her accessories be

[west plume]

she isn't beholden to mana at all so she'd probably just be a full dps build

[sterile robin]

what does beholden mean

[sterile robin]

oh

so she has a high mana reserve

and doesnt necessarily need to monitor it

[west plume]

for her main brimstone magic she doesn't use her own mana for it because she stole it

so she doesn't really need to worry about it at all

[sterile robin]

wdym she stole it

[west plume]

she took it from the brimstone elemental

[eager bluff]

she wasnt born with mana reserves the size of lake michigan

[sterile robin]

what other magic does she have

[raw nest]

Necromancy probably

[west plume]

whatever permafrost is teaching her, which does require regular mana

and necromancy

[sterile robin]

so why does she become a town npc after you beat her

[raw nest]

Funny how all of calamity could’ve been prevented if the terrarian was created just a bit earlier

Well not all but most

[west plume]

she thinks you can beat yharim and doesn't think that continuing to fight will do much good

[sterile robin]

what is the general explanation of the terrarian

[west plume]

well, you'd have had to prevented yharon from becoming the dragon of rebirth because realistically yharim isn't the important factor in the crusade happening

which is a far ways back

[west plume]

they are whoever you want them to be

[alpine cedar]

"Chris Pratt as Calamitas, featuring Cillian Murphy as John Wulfrum and Angelina Jolie as Jane Wulfrum." so this is canon ?

[sterile robin]

i like to headcanon them to be a creation of the world soul, an agent of it that enacts its will

so they lowk arent a 'person' in the usual matter

[raw nest]

Was mostly referring to the crusade. If my ass was there at the battle of illmeris, best know that I’m saving them fish people

[west plume]

what r u gonna do bro 💔

[raw nest]

Aight maybe not me bro, but the terrarian

[west plume]

the terrarian maybe

fair point

[sterile robin]

also explains how they keep comin back because the world soul resurrects em

[alpine cedar]

is posting photos in this chat ok ?

[west plume]

yes if you can do so

i kinda fw the terrarian being a sort of elemental

[sterile robin]

elaborate

[alpine cedar]

soo this is canon then

[raw nest]

This is a popular headcanon, but I also like to headcanon that the terrarian didn’t die a single time because they’re just that cool

[west plume]

in this sense

this would make the terrarian elemental-like

elementals are also functionally immortal as in they respawn eventually

[sterile robin]

icic

[eager bluff]

what

[sterile robin]

the Terran Elemental would probs be their true name

i named mine 'Razor Zaktivex'

the larp never stops

[alpine cedar]

lol

[young socket]

chris pratt as calamitas

the calamity movie

[alpine cedar]

calamity movie when ?

[sterile robin]

will smith as yharim

he slapped the shit out of draedon

[pulsar ocean]

if someone necromancied yharon would his soul still be in the aerie taking 10 years to return as an egg

[alpine cedar]

lmao

[wanton pendant]

Calamity's plot is very much written with the player being in Hardcore as the canon. Also World Soul is kinda dead.

[pulsar ocean]

why isnt the world dead if it lacks a soul

[wanton pendant]

Dude, that's deep.

[rain osprey]

we're making a calamity movie. every character is being played by willem dafoe. all at once

[mighty zenith]

he could pull it off

[long bloom]

that's just canon though

[leaden bridge]

It would be so awesome. It would be so cool.

[wanton pendant]

Ozzatron finally read my pitch!

[split mortar]

Almost certainly late but i gotta post it

[primal sierra]

Is the yharim design at all official or is it all fan-made?

[wanton pendant]

What do you mean by that?

[soft flame]

canon

[primal sierra]

Alr

[wanton pendant]

Yharim doesn't have a finalized design, but the concept art is official and fan art is fan made.

[soft flame]

wait

[wanton pendant]

What?

[soft flame]

fuck i didn’t mean to reply

but yeah he does have an official design

[split mortar]

Yharims current design, subject to change over the years

[primal sierra]

So ya just like everything related to the mod

[wanton pendant]

Except DoG being a fraud. That's forever.

[primal sierra]

Damn I didn’t know he was that huge 😭
Makes sense tho ig

[split mortar]

I would like him to be buffer

[wanton pendant]

Yharim already ate the fridge there's not much left to muscle.

[random mulch]

give yharim thragg's cape

[wanton pendant]

Give him the other cape but ||it's DoG||.

[alpine cedar]

give yharim the thraggs haircut

lol

[wheat walrus]

bald

[alpine cedar]

not bald

[wheat walrus]

yes bald

[wanton pendant]

Maybe bald?

[alpine cedar]

galactic level symmetrical

[primal sierra]

Schrodinger’s bald

[noble falcon]

Yharim caught with weapons reforged to Deadly instead of Unreal like a chump
Has been demoted from final boss status to town pet

[alpine cedar]

[random mulch]

doodle

might do a full body version eventually cause i think it looks sick honestly

[alpine cedar]

damn that looks cool

[sacred pilot]

Zamn.

I fw it hard.

OH THE BRAIDSSS.

OH MY GOD THE BRAIDS ARE SO COOOOOOL.

[agile matrix]

peak?? i like the braids

[soft flame]

oo this is pretty cool

[heavy zenith]

How do you pronounce Amidias? I've been saying Ah-mih-day-us

[tropic oak]

that is how u say it i think

[heavy zenith]

sick

[long bloom]

i pronounce it ah-mid-ee-us

[raw nest]

I thought it was

Ah-my-Dee-us

[zenith geode]

i thought it was uh-mee-dee-us

[heavy zenith]

I thought it was uh-uh-uh-us

[sinful adder]

Ah-mid-ee-us

[icy veldt]

/aˈmɪ.di.as/ or "ah-MIH-dee-as"

[wanton pendant]

It's pronounced 'Dave'.

[light linden]

god now I'm imagining Amidias saying "Hello there, Old Sport"

@mighty zenithbot to vaporize

[split mortar]

@cloud ibex

[timber glacier]

Mr peast

[split mortar]

Yay

[long scaffold]

I've been saying "A my dis"

[long scaffold]

It's pronounced 'Rules'.

[timber glacier]

[pulsar ocean]

why don’t we have a den of evil like in fables

[zenith geode]

the admins arent the biggest fan of honeypot since having a public channel with the sole purpose of catching bots is somewhat crude

[pulsar ocean]

really don’t get this but sure

[brazen coral]

the server is full of dumb kids, people with no impulse control, and dumb kids with no impulse control

(myself included)

if there was a honeypot channel there will be people that will get themselves banned fucking around and finding out

additionally the bot developers will eventually catch on and then implement a check on the bot "Is there more than ONE message in this channel?" and dsuddenly the honeypot is exclusively detrimental

[west plume]

if someone doesn't believe it or types there accidentally and gets instantly banned then it uses moderator bandwidth since calamity main is one of very few servers with a dedicated ban appeal process

[west plume]

also this

it's easy to avoid because you can just check if the channel has been used in the past week or so and then avoid it if it looks suspicious

[plucky lichen]

What about my slime god

Also hello lore

[agile matrix]

i wonder who said this. they must be really awesome

[agile matrix]

if theres a big red shiny “DIE RIGHT NOW” button at least a few people are gonna press it check if its real

[brazen coral]

thumbsup~2

myself included

[plucky lichen]

I love big shiny die buttons

[agile matrix]

i wont since i hold too Much trust in things

[light linden]

I wonder

Y'all think there were any auric dragons that were hydras?

[wanton pendant]

Totally.

[real silo]

Life dragon

[timber glacier]

What about ones that were cockatrices

[pulsar ocean]

Hahahahaha

[light linden]

personally I've always imagined the dragon of flame to be a hydra

where each head produces a different type of flame

e.g. one makes holy and another brimstone

[timber glacier]

Wait actually what if the life dragon was like a hydra with each head kind of representing different living things, like one head features tones of features from animals, another thats all plant themed and another thats like fungi themed (maybe also a head for like bacteria)

Also, I’d imagine since life and death are kind of parallelling ideas having the dragon of death have like something to parallel life being a hydra, maybe like having several tails with each tail maybe representing different ways of death, like maybe one is constantly bleeding, another is old and decayed, another on has the bone, etc idk. Alternatively it having no head at all could also be really cool

Also I’d imagine some of the dragons we know of are like the ancestors of the various non-auric dragon offshoots, so like Vetrasyl would have wyvern-like elements and be their ancestor

So I’d kinda guess maybe like dragon of flame might look like what the bone serpents were before being bone, maybe the dragon of tides might resemble the primordial wyrm if they like live in the ocean, but id like they’re like from the sunken sea maybe basilisks

[pulsar ocean]

wouldn’t it be extremely funny if Jared is zeratros’ descendant

[timber glacier]

Also like I do wonder how much of the dragon’s appearance is caused and kind of tied to their auric souls cos It could mean that like for dragon of mind maybe like resembling one of the nebula pillar enemies, and like since the GODS of war and dogma are the main gods comprising the crimson and corruption if any crimson or corrupt enemies end up resembling the dragons of order and faith, like maybe i guess order might kind of resemble crimeras and like faith might resemble eater of worlds

[timber glacier]

That could be interesting actually since like since the primordial worm is the one guarding the terminus and also is in the deepest parts of the abyss, like the one place where none of the sun’s primordial light could reach

It could be interesting from a writing perspective, maybe with the wyrm rejecting its ancestry

Also random thing, I wonder how like yharim would react to the old ones army and deerclops stuff if they were “canon”

Like they’d have come from another world for this question and not originate from terraria but like if yharim saw like betsy how would he react

[hollow pivot]

“offshoot”

[timber glacier]

I guess yeah he’d probably just thinks shes an offshoot

Also I’ve asked this before but didn’t get like any proper answer how the hell is skeleton merchant like actually sapient/sentient

Like aren’t all undead in calamity basically unthinking husks of what they once were with only their survival instincts and stuff remaining

[west plume]

i dont actually know if the skeleton merchant was revived using necromancy

you could probably do some homestuck bullshit and revive a bag of bones using a domain like life

[timber glacier]

It would be funny if after ascending silva decided to test the new strength by just giving life to a random skeleton making the skeleton merchant

[hollow pivot]

What if his survival instinct is trading?

[pulsar ocean]

does offshoot imply dragons shoot out babies

[timber glacier]

Yes the dragons are actually all the pokemon dragapult and shoot out their babies as ammo

[long bloom]

old duke mentioned

[warm gull]

oh my god its quinn from soldier boy

[scenic kraken]

It's honesly funny how, even though we know SO MUCH OF THE LORE AND WORLD, we as The Terrarian do not really care

Everything Yharim built?
We destroy, not because we really care for him, but because it's fun

Truly, Chaotic neutral position

[timber glacier]

How does the terrarian know how to make a mechanism to find laboratories they’ve both never been to probably even know exist

[mighty zenith]

gayplay

[timber glacier]

Also which boss refights are canon in game

Is it Supreme Calamitas, Exo Mechs (?), queen bee I guess since theres several of her

[split mortar]

Any that can be argued as a species so you are not fighting the same individual
And scal since its just a spar

Draedon would not make another exos and does not have thr time

[timber glacier]

Doesn’t he have like dialogue if you refight them or something

[split mortar]

Idk if the boss dialogue is even up to date

[timber glacier]

Aren’t Eoc and Boc just like some random monsters or something so theres probably more

[wanton pendant]

Draconic Offshoots are descendants of Auric Dragons, and Wyverns are from Vetrasyl. Bone serpents, however, don't even seem to be dragons, and were adopted by the Flame Dragon. Heartwarming.

[timber glacier]

He must’ve been such a kind and friendly being adopting those lonely creatures like that

[wanton pendant]

Providence murdered a single father.

[timber glacier]

Shes such an evil person, both her and her lesbian polycule and whatever they had going on

[wanton pendant]

Providence is also the reason they are bone serpents.

They used to be normal serpents.

[timber glacier]

How awful of her how could she do this

[magic epoch]

im lebron jame and i will rap that providence is really smelly like crap providence more like poopydence instead of ash she's just trash not even bold or brash

[timber glacier]

I do wonder if yharon hates providence for killing the flame dragon cos she did kill a dragon but like he was like objectively evil

Random thought: Hypothetically after the events of the game when we kill yharim and after silva revived I wonder how she’d react to the stuff that’d happened

[split mortar]

Yes yharon hates her for it
Prejudice aint allat logical

[timber glacier]

I guess but like I thought like even the dragons didn’t like flame dragon or something

[scenic kraken]

Providence DOESN'T know how to cook

[timber glacier]

Blasphemous donuts say otherwise cos who else could’ve made those

[scenic kraken]

Idk

[timber glacier]

Also like what even are the profaned enemies in the lore like what are they

Are they like idk profane-ified versions of Providence’s cultists

[split mortar]

Basically? Its said in the bestiary entries but idr those amazingly

[timber glacier]

Honestly as is those enemies are like weird cos like The only reason any of them have stuck in my head is cos of how annoying scorn eaters are

[scenic kraken]

But you know who else makes blasphemous donuts?

MY MOM-

[wanton pendant]

Yuko was later found mauled to death by Scorn Eaters.

[plucky lichen]

This is actually the reason why the profaned defender left her for me

I know how to cook

[scenic kraken]

Nah, I'd win

Later, he was turned into ash by Calamitas' world cutting slash

[wanton pendant]

Alas, she does not take kindly to people asking to use her Brimstone flames to cook burgers.

[hoary cape]

Ptsd from doing a shift in the McDonald's inside the azafure Walmart

[eternal veldt]

Tbh yeah idk if silva would like the terrarian or not.

Granted if they even meet

[eternal veldt]

Charred outer layered burger patties are kinda amazing though...

[wanton pendant]

Sulphurous burgers?

[wanton pendant]

Depends on YOU!

[eternal veldt]

Tbh some of the terrarian's personality is kind of off if you wanna grow stronger atleast. We know for a fact that they will not get along well with yharim and that calamitas sees good in them

Unless you just refuses to progress

[wanton pendant]

You could easily side with Yharim, and Calamitas has been wrong about the intentions of others before.

[eternal veldt]

Unless the devs gives us an option in the fight...

Also... yharon

[wanton pendant]

Yharim wants you to kill him either way.

If you truly can succeed him, you must surpass him.

[eternal veldt]

I see. Hmmm

[eternal veldt]

Is it because he wants us to fight xeroc or something

[wanton pendant]

Probably yeah.

[scenic kraken]

Lowkey I just wanna chill back, relax, and knock a cold one with Xerox

[barren mortar]

out of everyone in the game he'd probably be the most pleasant to be around

[noble falcon]

But permafrost is so nice though

[raw nest]

What about amidias? He is genuinely the definition of a chill guy

[barren mortar]

okay true

[dusk laurel]

i want to see amidias move like king von

[robust osprey]

what if you cant even look at him without burning ur eyes

[dusk laurel]

i want to see hate in his eyes

i want to feel the rage in his dialogue

[robust osprey]

wtf

vanillin did you kill ozzatron and became the server owner

[dusk laurel]

im owner

[dusk laurel]

every single amidias quest will involve killing atleast one person or animal 😊

[robust osprey]

final quest

kill nilla

[dusk laurel]

whos nilla

[light linden]

random question

[robust osprey]

my grandma

[light linden]

what biomes do y'all think a martian npc would like/dislike?

[robust osprey]

likes everything except any underground biome probably

[light linden]

I feel like they'd hate the underground, dislike the sulphurous sea, like the astral infection, and love the ocean

for context

I feel like any spacefaring species would hate not being able to see the sky, the sulphurous sea probably would remind them too much of their dying home, and the ocean is basically their home but not dying

if mars is anything similar to how it is irl

mars would basically be a wasteland of toxic sand and radiation

[wanton pendant]

I'm not sure spacefarers would like space cancer that can threaten ships.

[noble falcon]

I mean they might
We don’t exactly know a lot about Martian culture

[leaden bridge]

they were elven tier magic users until the big bad evil distortional creatures destroyed their world and ate their world soul and forced them to speed run the tech branch

this is true

[wanton pendant]

If they were elven tier, then why are there no elves? Checkmate, atheists.

[zenith geode]

cuz we went and killed all em knife ears easy

[wanton pendant]

Why didn't the use their ear knives? Are they stupid?

[lucid wigeon]

i hate it

i hate it, it doens't even make sense at all for old duke to have a auric soul

this is a massive L for hunt of the old god

[leaden bridge]

its a massive w

it's rotten you know

[leaden bridge]

well because they're not elves themselves its just liek that how they were like before they had to do their stuff

why don't the martians simply peacefully settled in available land in literally anywhere but the hearltands? are they stupid?

[lucid wigeon]

the main thing of old duke is that it's a being that doesn't have a auric soul

so why on god's name

does old duke drops one!?

[leaden bridge]

the main thing of old duke is that hes a bad boss everyone hates and his lore is irrelevant because by all means he should have never existed

[lucid wigeon]

death mode old duke i don't hate it that much

[leaden bridge]

he drops an auric soul in hotog because its funny we know he doesnt have one

[lucid wigeon]

he does gets annoying

infernum old duke on the other hand, that version of the boss i hate it just as much as i hate other modded bosses like subspace serpent from SotS

(also i shouldn't say it, since this is lore discussion, it doens't have a place for this talk)

[leaden bridge]

tinky winky controversy

[lucid wigeon]

i still hate it

xd

[split mortar]

Lore discussion, the place known for being on topic yes

[leaden bridge]

its actually worse than i imagined its people complaining he was carrying a handbag oh my god

british people r truly bored and sad

[lucid wigeon]

dis

[leaden bridge]

are you for fucking real dude

[zenith geode]

tinky winky? the teletubby??????

[split mortar]

What the fuck

[leaden bridge]

yes the fucking teletubby

[split mortar]

😭

[zenith geode]

????????????

[lucid wigeon]

the fuckin huh?

[leaden bridge]

its just homophobia but about a fucking teletubby having a handbag

i mean its the handbag part

cuz they r seen as feminine, and back then a man having one was basically gayest thing ever. and because i guess people r really bored in britain. tinky winky controversy

in may 2007, polish child advocate, asked her expert team of psychologists, if tinky winky holding a hand bag, was in any way, detrimental to children

[split mortar]

?????

Shit just be happening

[zenith geode]

sounds like somethng thatd happen today

[leaden bridge]

do you think there was a dragon of hatred and a god ate it and like. god of homophobia

and calamity has its own version of the tinky winky controversy

[light linden]

Been thinking

are there any magical alloys we know about?

outside of astral I mean

[split mortar]

Wdym by magical alloys
Would life and exo count?

[light linden]

life probably would

I'm meaning mixtures of metals that are good for making magical armor/tools/weaponry

[split mortar]

Ah ok

I think life, astral and exo are the only alloys we know of? At least of cal specific metals

[eager bluff]

cryonic is probably decent

[light linden]

astral and life are the only ones that fit

we still know too little about what the exo plating is made from to make a call imo

hell we don't know a lot about cosmilite itself

it could be magical in nature

[sacred pilot]

There is a new update for HoTG?

[lucid wigeon]

Goozma nerfed, yes

Since

It was next to impossible to dodge any projectile

But apparently old duke now drops a auric soul which DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL

[agile matrix]

imagine DoG dropped one

[timber glacier]

Its probably meant to be a joke thing and also like does yharon or goozma actually dropping an auric soul make sense as well

[agile matrix]

Goozma does, Yharon is obvious

[zenith geode]

yharon yeah

goozma vaguely

[timber glacier]

Wouldn’t yharon keep it when he revives though

[agile matrix]

well. goozma kinda just drops its god(????)ly soul

in hotog you kill kill yharon apparently

[zenith geode]

the lore behind hotog goozma is that its a massive coalescence of slimes that got dense enough to somehow create a world soul shard

[timber glacier]

But also like you don’t have to do any “ascending” ritual thing to absorb the soul

[zenith geode]

yeah because that would fucking suck to implement ingame

[timber glacier]

I know but like the auric soul stuff just having you touch the soul is kind of weird to be a thing in the first place

[zenith geode]

especially considering the one realistic source of the ritual's process has hyperdementia and a whole bunch of other shit living inside it (hive mind)

[agile matrix]

isnt the theory that the lingering essence steadily were picked up and stored by probably millions of slimes

so when it compacted, 0.00001 * 100000 = 1

(numbers shrinked but whatever)

[light linden]

there isn't a conclusive one

mine is that slimes have picked up tiny pieces of the world soul from when it broke, not enough to affect them normally though

but when all of them were forced into one being there were enough pieces to make a new auric soul

quite a potent one at that

[light linden]

I just had a thought

what'd happen if we heat up DoG's armor?

[long bloom]

how much

[wanton pendant]

Aside from the fact his soul teleports.

[wanton pendant]

So it would probably be extremely painful.

[light linden]

ok I should probably explain what I'm thinking

[long bloom]

that would be helpful

[light linden]

I'm wondering what would happen if we made him charge into a blade hot enough to liquify his armor

[long bloom]

i think he would die

possibly

[light linden]

if he can't slow down fast enough yeah

decent chance he'd cut himself open like a hot dog bun

[long bloom]

what is the purpose of this question

[light linden]

curiosity

also I was watching some clips from infinity war

[long bloom]

ok but like

what outcome did you expect other than "he's dead lol"

[light linden]

mainly wondering how fast he can slow down

[young socket]

he takes 2d8 fire damage every six seconds

[long bloom]

none of us could know that

[split mortar]

Best we can do is look at in game stuff

[leaden bridge]

it always did

[leaden bridge]

hotog would have done it if there was a ritual that was known to the public

because it, too, would be funny

[timber glacier]

It is really funny how in hotdog like the auric souls give like very small buffs (the same as the future bosses used to?) instead of turning you into a god, like I get its for gameplay but the dramatic difference is kind of funny

[leaden bridge]

yes its the same as future bosses

thats why od has one too so theres 3

[timber glacier]

Couldn’t like providence be given one as she at least kind of has an auric souls give due to being a god instead of old duke who just doesn’t canonically

[split mortar]

No because old duke dropping one is funnier

[leaden bridge]

also hes a dragon

prov wouldnt make sense cuz shes a god so its not an auric soula nymore

[split mortar]

Just shimmer it first

[pulsar ocean]

why didn’t ml just eat the moon’s world soul is he stupid

I think he’d be big enough for it

[leaden bridge]

he forgot it had one

[split mortar]

Moons evil and would just send moonlord to actual hell clearly

Not the underworld

[pulsar ocean]

I forgot the moon is evil

[split mortar]

The sun should also have a celestial soul thinking about it

So xeroc is technically the third strongest cal character only third to celestial objects probably

[leaden bridge]

i have an unironic actual answer to this question but you wouldnt like it

im saving you all the trouble

[magic epoch]

He's entirely immune to fire debuffs, barring the head

[leaden bridge]

i am not sure immunity to fire debuffs means immune to melting his armor

[long bloom]

his body is where most of the armor is

[timber glacier]

Also he does shoot fireballs so he probably has to be like resilient enough to like not get harmed by the heat from those

[leaden bridge]

NEWS: COSMILITE ARMOR FOUND TO HAVE NO MELTING POINT, DRAEDON STILL MAD ABOUT THERMODYNAMICS

[timber glacier]

Wait what if cosmilite since its from the distortion doesn’t follow our rules of matter and like actually becomes a solid when heated, and becomes a liquid and then gas at colder temperatures

[long bloom]

could be true

[pulsar ocean]

do you think if you ate Pluto’s world soul it would be enough to elevate you to xeroc level

[magic epoch]

take dog to the snow biome and he melts

[timber glacier]

If you ate the whole thing like it’d probably even be above him

[leaden bridge]

this would be funny but like

[pulsar ocean]

Yummers

[leaden bridge]

the problem with cold is that there is a limit, heat? not so much

its not hard to get to the cold limit. well you cant get to it but its not hard to get close. rlly not all that hard

[long bloom]

what if the distortion has negative kelvin

[leaden bridge]

fucked up

[magic epoch]

dog's true form is gaseous

[timber glacier]

Like isn’t part of the plan with cosmilite is that it might end up being found as a liquid in the distortion when that gets added

[long bloom]

yeah

[leaden bridge]

i assume its state isnt a fully temperature based thing tough

its just processed into a stable solid through some method

[split mortar]

Oh thanks for the idea

[pulsar ocean]

You bring a bucket of cosmilite to overworld and it becomes solid like cement instantly

[timber glacier]

The bucket item can’t actually be placed because its stuck in the bucket as a solid

[leaden bridge]

u ever think about the fact cosmilite armor is supposed to be flexible

[long bloom]

yeah it's elastic

elastic metal

[timber glacier]

Cosmilite is just everything good for a metal

[wanton pendant]

I don't think molten metal applied to the skin is a 'debuff'.

[leaden bridge]

metal tube of worm

[wanton pendant]

So you're saying we can use it as sugar?

[timber glacier]

How would it taste

[pulsar ocean]

Purple

[long bloom]

[timber glacier]

Lean metal

I do actually wonder if it would be purple while liquid or not

Cos that would be kind of visually similar to shimmer if it were

[leaden bridge]

fun fact

[long bloom]

[timber glacier]

How fun

[leaden bridge]

very

[timber glacier]

Honestly like imagine if the shimmer is from the distortion, like it wouldn’t make sense but like I feel like it does somehow too

[leaden bridge]

fun fact

[long bloom]

you will die in 4 days

[leaden bridge]

if cosmilite is a liquid

[pulsar ocean]

What if you teleported bread into the distortion

[leaden bridge]

and shimmer is from the distortion

then....

i have an idea gif but i cant post it because embeds

[timber glacier]

Honestly I’d wonder if liquid cosmilite would have liquid collision blocks that are made like obsidian

[pulsar ocean]

We’ll find out by the time deltarune chapter 7 drops

[timber glacier]

Heres my wild guess:
cosmilite + shimmer = aetherium
I don’t know why but I have a feeling

[pulsar ocean]

Like the Minecraft mod

[split mortar]

Wait we know shimmer from distortion

[long bloom]

no we don't???

[timber glacier]

No I’m just being an insane theorist

Like shimmer is something we don’t know really where it is from and stuff so it could but like it also could just be a thing in that one cave

[split mortar]

I just looked here and my brain is tired i saw neko say its from the distortion or smth and went huh

[long bloom]

they said if

[split mortar]

You expect too much reading comprehension form me

[timber glacier]

Its totally confirmed now Its canon

[split mortar]

Dang

[timber glacier]

There will be a aether sea biome in the distortion

[west plume]

i had this silly theory about cosmolite where the more heat you put into it the more heat it takes from surrounding materials, making them cooler, which is why draedon uses it for the exo mechs since the metal can just continually take heat from it's surroundings until it explodes

[icy veldt]

They're both purple, so it checks out

[west plume]

if you take heat from cosmolite then it'd makes it's surroundings hotter as well by this logic in a weird sort of decay process

[pulsar ocean]

do black holes have souls

[timber glacier]

I really hope the distortion isn’t basically all shades of Purples

[west plume]

it will not be

[pulsar ocean]

why

[west plume]

idk. have u talked to one before

[leaden bridge]

hi

hi!

[timber glacier]

Because like most of the distortion stuff we’ve seen have used purple as a major colour

[leaden bridge]

im literally right here

you people are terrible

[pulsar ocean]

I have not
but i have also not talked to planets but they seem to have one

[pulsar ocean]

fatty

[leaden bridge]

fuck you

[west plume]

the planets dont want to talk to u

maybe ur not cool enough

[leaden bridge]

mars spoke with the martians all the time because they were cool and shit

[timber glacier]

There talked to them because it didn’t eat its freaking world soul like the dragons did thats why we never talk to terraria in game

[pulsar ocean]

Looks like fun

[leaden bridge]

yeah mars was chill af with the martians

[timber glacier]

Maybe the moons evil cos the dragon’s took terraria’s world soul and thus the moon could no longer talk to its beloved earth, growing angry, cruel and vicious

[leaden bridge]

"Yo how r you people tonight. i love you guys so fucking much you're so fun. dude look at jeremy today. how r you doing jeremy. still struggling with those spells? do not worry dude u will do it i know u can do it #jeremyisradashell

[pulsar ocean]

This is all the dragon’s fault we can’t experience this

[west plume]

the world soul being in pieces doesn't mean that terraria is dead or can't choose to talk to you. it just isn't. the dragons had nothing to do with that

[timber glacier]

It would actually be interesting if loosing the world soul means that the planet itself cannot express its own will and talk but is still alive, stuck forever trapped with no way to impact anything

But like it has to be the dragon’s fault obviosly