#lore-discussion

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long bloom
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that is a proposed explanation

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not canon yet

eager bluff
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moons haunted

long bloom
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byeah the idea is that the monsters would be tailored specifically to your fears

long bloom
paper latch
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so peak

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wb shimmer

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does it have lore

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im guessing its the poorly disposed remnant of some god although that would be unoriginal

split mortar
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Think this all we got rn

noble falcon
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You see, Yharon dropped a big ol’ shaker bottle of G-Fuel Lunar Pillar Punch flavor while he was trashing his desk after losing to Malenia again, and it all pooled together underground and that’s what it is

long bloom
paper latch
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is it still canon

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i mean i think it is, thats interesting

split mortar
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Mayhapse
@cosmic zenith

raven brook
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i mean, they have weapons

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plus realistically he is a tinkerer he'd do mor estuff than just, videogame mechanic reforge your weapon modifier

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he could make gadgets and tools for others, in fact some of the items he sells are that

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people often dont look at thing sfrom a in-universe perspective when it comes to topics like these

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i think its safe to say that obviously the npcs would sell items and exchange services between themselves and not just you

eager bluff
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yeah his dialogue tells you the kinda shit he makes

split mortar
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Tinkerer does not even only do reforges he also sells stuff

eager bluff
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"I just finished my newest creation! This version doesn't explode violently if you breathe on it too hard."
"Now would be a great time to tinker a pinwheel accessory!"
"You know, that mining helmet-flipper combination was a much better idea on paper."
stuff like this

jagged mulch
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we never see anyone use rocket boots doe

and it safe to assume that the amount of money we give the tinkerer for reforging god-tier weapons is likely more then whatever money gets around the local npc economy

eager bluff
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we also dont see anybody take a shit aside from the terrarian but that doesnt mean other people dont use the bathroom

split mortar
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we never see anyone use rocket boots doe
And we don’t see a lot of shit thats hinted at in terraria like princess trying to have peace meetings with the event moons iirc

jagged mulch
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fair

raven brook
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gotta look at things from a in-universe perspective

jagged mulch
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but it's safe to assume that the goblin probably has way more money then anyone else

raven brook
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terraria is a video game it obviously cant show the ins and outs of every little interaction

jagged mulch
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especially from all that reforging

raven brook
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i think tax collector and princess

eager bluff
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also princess yeah

jagged mulch
raven brook
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based on the travelling merchant's clothes he seems to be rather wealthy too, plus he sells alot of "fancy" items

eager bluff
raven brook
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i doubt bandit would be the rcihest since i think goes kinda against the entire point of their existence

jagged mulch
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I adress that myself in the orginal statement of the point

eager bluff
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anyways yeah it isnt

raven brook
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most broke npc is probably like, idfk dryad or witch doctor

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i dont know if theyd even regularly use currency for anything

split mortar
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Princess is also possibly the richest due to being actual royalty

raven brook
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yeah princess is literaly royalty so id say shes probably the richest

split mortar
raven brook
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maybe too

jagged mulch
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like, mechanically, every npc that isn't the angler has infinite money

raven brook
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yeah but this isnt talking about videogame mechanics

jagged mulch
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exactly

raven brook
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what are you trying to say here

eager bluff
# eager bluff anyways yeah it isnt

because if you get tax collector generally im making 10-20 plat from him over the course of the playthrough and he doesnt give ALL of the money he collects to you

split mortar
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This feels like theres two different interpretations of this convo going on at once

west plume
raven brook
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could also be the case but i do like to headcanon calamitas actually has some money that she uses to occasionally buy some supplies for herself and stuff

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while dryad and witch doctor feel like theyd intentionally not engage with it

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she'd probably still be on the lower end tho

west plume
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dryad and witch doctor are probably both barterers and have personal possessions or commodities they use to trade

jagged mulch
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the brimstone witch ( who gives you 30 plat, when you beat her) is paying way more rent then everyone else

because 30 plat is a shit ton of money

raven brook
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i dont think bosses dropping money when you kill them is diagetic in most cases because it kinda dosent make too much sense if you stop to think about it for even a bit

west plume
raven brook
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or enemies in general for that matter

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tyhe economy would kinda be completely broken if you could just go around killing green slimes and become rich from it

split mortar
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Calamitas might also just be able to make money out of mana

wanton pendant
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It's clearly the life insurance payout form her brother's that she was saving for college, duh.

raven brook
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dude money creating spell sounds insane

eager bluff
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why does killing eye of cthulhu give me 600 dollars? i dont know! but it does!

west plume
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the eye of cthulhu's pocket change in case it wanted to buy a burger

raven brook
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happens to the best of us

split mortar
split mortar
west plume
eager bluff
raven brook
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ok i get that the burger is worth 5 dolalrs but heres a deal

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i only have 3, but they're evil dollars

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surely that counts[

jagged mulch
west plume
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i have 3 dollars that kill you. these are worth a lot of money you know

jagged mulch
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isn't that a direct fact mentioned in the lore

split mortar
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We do know her ice magic is p good iirc

raven brook
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she can def use other magic types but she is by far more proeficient in brimstone and necromancy yeah

eager bluff
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no she still isnt very good at stuff that isnt brimstone and necromancy

jagged mulch
raven brook
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she did freeze permafrost

long bloom
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she made cryogen

raven brook
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in the, cube

eager bluff
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she was trained by john ice magic

raven brook
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though it may have been a joint operation

west plume
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the brimstone magic also seriously disrupts her ability to do normal magicks most of the time because it operates by ice crown adventure time rules

raven brook
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thats kind of hilarious to think about

west plume
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she can cast regular magicks but it's with a difficulty buff and she is also plagued by visions constantly which makes it more difficult

eager bluff
raven brook
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calamitas and permafrost are reverse simon and marceline

split mortar
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Calamitas vs ice king

eager bluff
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siffrin gun

split mortar
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Why the o react???

long bloom
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e

split mortar
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Whar

raven brook
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o.e

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youll figure it out

split mortar
long bloom
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whar

west plume
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huh

long bloom
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thanks discord

split mortar
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Whuh

raven brook
eager bluff
raven brook
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checks out yeah

jagged mulch
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now that we are mentioning it

how does magic work in calamity anyway?

John Terraria gets good at magic by buying equipement, crafting stuff and eating magic stuff. they don't permanently learn any spells

Seems to me like the Terrarian is actually a shit ass-mage who gets by via using the magic in other things like tomes and staffs and the like

its not like the proficiency mechanic still exists, so like??

do other characters have mana? do they have more then 400 mana?
Do they also have magic equipment?

eager bluff
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they have mana they probably have magic equipment

long bloom
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mana is stored in the bones

wanton pendant
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All the magic schools are gone so you don't have a formal magic education so you just gotta make stuff up.

raven brook
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i mean

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im pretty sure magic schools exist water wraith

split mortar
raven brook
jagged mulch
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like I get that

wanton pendant
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None in the war ravaged continent of 'Yourworldnamehere'.

raven brook
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do they also have magic equipment

jagged mulch
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but the question is about the mechanics of magic

eager bluff
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mana is an inherent part of biology in calamity

wanton pendant
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At least none you every visit in game.

raven brook
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probably to varying degrees

long bloom
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water there's 3 more inhabitable continents

west plume
jagged mulch
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we only have limited data points, the most detailed one being John Terraria

split mortar
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Dungeon does not seem like a school

jagged mulch
split mortar
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Yeah thats why it exists

west plume
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if the terrarian can learn how to cast water bolt from da dungeon i'm pretty sure other learned mages are able to learn how to cast magicks from higher education whereever yharim hasn't destroyed the education system

eager bluff
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theres a headcanon around that beginner to intermediate level mages use books and whatnot as foci for spells where it just helps with channeling the magic but as they improve and get better control they dont need the foci as much or at all

raven brook
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thats a neat headcanon

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at first you gotta have the book in hand constantly to cast shit but as you get better at it you can just do it from memory basically

jagged mulch
west plume
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invoking from an open book is different from memorizing it i feel

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it's like asking someone who hasn't learned calculus to do calculus without a textbook vs with a textbook

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?

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we don't see the wizard use a flower of fire to cast his spells for exemple
i'm pretty sure the wizard and permafrost just Know and could probably break down to you how to cast various elemental magicks since it's their area of study

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you have to use an attuned object because you are not an 80 year old wizard

long bloom
west plume
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interchangeable

long bloom
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👍

jagged mulch
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my apologies for the crudeness I displayed

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it was rather unbecoming

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mana also seems to have connections to the stars

west plume
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stars have mana as a component but mana is an innate aspect of the universe that just kind of collects naturally

jagged mulch
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considering the amount of magic equipement and buffs tied to the astral infection, fallen stars and what not

long bloom
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stars are literally balls of mana yes

split mortar
split mortar
jagged mulch
light linden
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just had a thought

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outside of the whole attunement thing, did auric have any disadvantages?

split mortar
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Hard to be subtle with it you just sorta kill whoever you use it on

west plume
long bloom
light linden
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is it heavy?

west plume
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in order to shake hands with someone, yharim has to take a glove off

jagged mulch
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like outside of requiring a cosmic anvil or more powerful crating station to use?

light linden
simple tangle
jagged mulch
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probably not

west plume
wanton pendant
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Also probably takes ages to get in large quantities without either being best friends with a dragon or being REALLY careful.

split mortar
split mortar
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Or is it elitist

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Idk

long bloom
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both

light linden
jagged mulch
# light linden does it lose strength when cold or hot?

considering you need god level crafting stations to use, we can infer that it is borderline impossible to shape

that being said, you can melt auric ore into auric bars with a mere titanium forge, so its likely not anymore heat resistant

split mortar
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Yharim losing his auric armour because i used a post plantera flamethrower on him

thick slate
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make a big titanium forge to fight yharim in

split mortar
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True

jagged mulch
# light linden does it lose strength when cold or hot?

that being said, because the bars are used in the highest tier of cooling cell, it likely very resistant to thermal gradient stresses, cold brittleness, and maybe even more exotic phenomenon around fermi-dirac and bose-eisenstien condensates

west plume
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why didn't dogma and war just fight yharim inside an active volcano? are they stupid?

wanton pendant
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Providence had it booked for her aura farming session.

thick slate
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is providence the piccolo of calamity

jagged mulch
worldly spindle
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Yharim survived being burned alive once already

long bloom
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barely

thick slate
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finish the job

split mortar
thick slate
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he got lucky

cosmic zenith
jagged mulch
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@light linden apon further reflection, the fact that auric bars can be made in an titanium forge is likely as a result of the fact that the recipe requires dragon soul, which likely serves as a processing aid

I say this in light of the fact that making auric plannels ( which is likely just auric ore mixed with stone to make paneling) requires a cosmic anvil, despite the fact that titanium bricks only require furnaces and even Uelibloom bricks only needing a titanium forge to make

I am aware this is likely for gameplay balancing purposes, but it does suggest that

  1. Auric ore is essentially impossible to process and purify with without actual dragon souls
  2. Auric bars are nigh-impossible to work with, without using the pressures and conditions found in dying stars ( e.i a cosmic anvil or dreadons forge)
  3. If your not attuned to it, it tries to kill you

theses are massive disadvantages that would make it's use essentially impossible for anyone who isn't either a God or buddy buddy with a dragon to use, acquire and do anything with auric materials.

split mortar
# cosmic zenith ?

Is your shimmer thingy real or was it another elaborate hijinks from you

cosmic zenith
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What would be the point in telling you that?

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:)

thick slate
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i could auric with my bare hands

jagged mulch
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Ok

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👍

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I believe you

thick slate
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thank u

light linden
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I could see it being very heavy personally

jagged mulch
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It also seemingly constantly emits energy

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Which means if you had an auric glove and you touched an electronic device, it would likely short circuit it

thick slate
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auric is like shitty vibranium

light linden
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still think making auric and vibranium touch would look pretty

thick slate
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purpl

brazen citrus
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ourple 🟣

light linden
thick slate
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the whole thing

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i think one of them just blows up

west plume
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the downside is mostly just that it's inconvenient and unsafe

wanton pendant
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This is why lead is better. It's only unsafe.

thick slate
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heavy and kills you

noble falcon
thick slate
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buddy is not expecting the boulder to catch his foot and drag them down the cliff

light linden
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I'd expect it to be heavy

agile matrix
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weight is not a disadvantage

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it is merely a tradeoff

noble falcon
cosmic zenith
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It's probably average in weight

cosmic zenith
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Weight is a disadvantage, but it often is tied to more durable materials, which serve as a balancing advantage

long bloom
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how heavy is cosmilite

cosmic zenith
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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We haven't discussed this in-dev to length

long bloom
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figured

noble falcon
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The way I see it, none of the endgame metals can be that heavy if you can still zip around like a madman while fully encased in it

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Either that or the world of calamity naturally ends up with the player being built like Super Macho Man, which is absolutely a possibility

wanton pendant
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Have you considered that by the endgame you must be really strong because you're after getting the workout of a lifetime fighting literally everything that looks at you funny?

trim edge
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if moon lord and the pillars are no longer related to space does that mean astrum deus won't drop pillar fragments in the future

dusk laurel
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astrum deus likely wouldve lost it anyways

dusk laurel
wanton pendant
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Astral Infection... will be good!?

trim edge
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does eol's appearance hint at what gods she's the daughter of or is it just from the hallow

dusk laurel
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we have no clue tbh

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she just showed up and started siphoning power from the sun

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thats kinda it

wanton pendant
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No way to tell. Divinity isn't genetic.

noble falcon
raven brook
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its just there to make farming em less annoying

light linden
leaden fern
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Yharim is at it! watch out! they're reconstructing V2 from Ultrakill!, strike back and demolish your home country's capital building in Lego city.

light linden
leaden fern
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bottom text

light linden
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could make it hard to put on a shield

raven brook
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From what i was saying in calamity update talk

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I think some people within the lore circle are far too pedantic and strict on the term "god" within calamity's context to the point they fail to realize there is actually nothing really wrong with calling beings that haven't ascended using the ritual "gods" in the right context

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Astrum Deus was worshipped as God and thus likely was reffered to as one, and the same could be said about other beings

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the usage of the term God as to refer to ritual-ascended beings would likely be popularized and become prevalent due to their influence and impact worldwide, yes

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but it dosen't mean that would be the only and exclusive definition of it

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As long as you make it clear to separate between ritual ascended and "god" asj ust a general term with a similar definition to what it is in Real Life there's literally nothing wrong with it and even in-universe people would refer to other beings as gods too

dusk laurel
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i think it sorta parallels how the naming convention for dragons is confusing because auric dragons at times are just referred to as "dragons" while their descendents are called "offshoots" despite both being genetically dragons, and the only distinction being that the auric dragons have auric souls, hence the name

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and then also some older offshoots are genetically very close to the auric dragons either by being descended from them or being from the same generation, like where do they fit in, calling them offshoots of real dragons is kinda funny

cosmic zenith
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I give them a break because that rigidity is unfortunately precedented

raven brook
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yharim himself even calls the ascended gods "falsely divine" and refers to deus as "god without sin" or whatnot

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which, yes

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very much implies that
a. he acnowledges astrum deus as a sort of god
b. he acnowledges the ascended gods as "falsely" divine, which obviously makes sense given its yharim but naturally implies the idea there are other forms of divinity

cosmic zenith
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We need to make flexible uses more identifiable ingame if we are to nurture the habit of not taking such terms at such face value

raven brook
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signus, astrum dei, anahita, and other icons of worship could be seen as "gods" in the right context

raven brook
young socket
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brimstone elemental...

raven brook
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Many people incuding myself in the past have been pedantic about it

cosmic zenith
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Even I have been pedantic about it

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I'm a very methodical person

raven brook
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And it generated a self-sustainable cycle of telling anyone who calls anything that isnt a ascendee a god how they're actually wrong and thats not a god

split mortar
cosmic zenith
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Having reliable demominations is useful

dusk laurel
cosmic zenith
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But I'm also a sucker for the development of culture, and rigid terms are fairly unrealistic

raven brook
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also yeah garion brought up something that i think makes alot of sense

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who is to say xeroc even called himself a god to begin with

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i mean, why would he

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from what we know about his character, he does not seem like the type of guy to say "yeap im god look atm e im god wahahah"

young socket
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it was all dogmas fault

raven brook
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why would he loudly proclaim his godhood after ascending, megalomaniac style

glacial rampart
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when Xeroc ascended he probably went "ok time to turn off the fucking preheat"

young socket
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im calling it

raven brook
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ifa nything i think

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YEAH

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as i said

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i think its MUCH more likely

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for dogma to have ACTUALLY been the first to call himself god

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that fits him like a glove

dusk laurel
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everything about dogma screams that he would do smth like that

wanton pendant
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I feel like Yharim would create a term to refer to things worshipped but not gods to differentiate them (and prevent his men from hunting down non-actual gods like the Brimstone Elemental).

young socket
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dogma being like "noooooo i wasnt the one who coined the term it was our ex buddy xeorc"

raven brook
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he literally calls astrum deus a god with no sin

young socket
split mortar
dusk laurel
# dusk laurel everything about dogma screams that he would do smth like that

his domain is literally dogma, he presented himself as a godly figure most likely, he wass in control of the "god society" faction, he killed the dragon of faith after believing the dragons were no longer able to protect them, hes one of the oldest gods and probably treated the dragons like gods and would adopt the same position once he took over, and he literally tried to make a "god king" whatever that is from whoever they chose to take yharon's soul

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like this guy

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perfectly fits the bill

visual kiln
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pomb

raven brook
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hi azzy

raven brook
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read

split mortar
raven brook
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the definition itself isn't even rigid in the game

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at the very least,

split mortar
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Ah ok

raven brook
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there are things pointing to how it isn't intended to be

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ofc, it could be communicated better

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but again

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yharim himself Literally calls Deus a Sinless God

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and calls the gods Falsely Divine

visual kiln
raven brook
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this explicitly makes it clear it is not a single definition and all other ones are automatically wrong

glacial rampart
split mortar
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So does yharim see deus as actually divine then is smth i wonder

wanton pendant
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Or I suppose 'god' was a common term for worshipped beings but gods like Dogma had propaganda campaigns to shift the definition to being ascended people.

raven brook
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definitions of "divine" vary

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it is a being of great power that is worshipped as a religious icon

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so by all means yeah it can be seen as a form of deity

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the dragons, also could be

leaden fern
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so how powerful is yharim?

dusk laurel
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he is powerful

split mortar
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He is top 3/4 of the verse

raven brook
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strongest mortal

glacial rampart
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he likely doesnt view it as a literal divine god but i wouldnt be surprised if yharim respected the creatures as a higher being given
"god without sin"

raven brook
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y eah it does seem like yharim respect's deus

leaden fern
raven brook
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not really

leaden fern
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yeh

raven brook
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theres like, 4 characters in the entire setting we know of that are stronger than him

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hes the final boss for a reason

split mortar
raven brook
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anyways

raven brook
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yes he's one of them

leaden fern
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god?

raven brook
raven brook
split mortar
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  1. Xeroc
  2. Prime Moonlord
  3. Noxus
  4. Yharim/Zeratros
wanton pendant
dusk laurel
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God is not a character because even if it existed it would not be relevant

raven brook
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As in is Xeroc a god? yes

leaden fern
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oh i see

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god as in like the creator of the world of terraria

raven brook
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there is none

split mortar
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That does not exist

wanton pendant
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He's still not here.

eager bluff
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if there is one it wont be written about

raven brook
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and if there hypothetically was some sort of creator, it is not part of the story

eager bluff
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you can write one for fanfics but for the story as it is in calamity it holds no bearing and wont be discussed

leaden fern
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alr, there definintely must be but there isn't a place for it since we've never known about it or probably isn't relevant

raven brook
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definitely

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no not really

split mortar
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there definitely must be
No

raven brook
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hypotehtically it Could exsit but theres literally no reason for why it also couldn't

wanton pendant
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Calamity's world was actually made by the ACME.

dusk laurel
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can we kill you

wanton pendant
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No. :/

raven brook
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thank you for the input wwg

split mortar
leaden fern
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yeah so just so we're cclear

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yharim is void

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:)))))))))))))))))))))))))

wanton pendant
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What?

dusk laurel
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this vexes me

young socket
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dies of death

visual kiln
split mortar
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Yharim is not ceaseless void

pulsar ocean
split mortar
leaden fern
raven brook
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Yharim also isn't the fourth layer of the abyss

leaden fern
split mortar
wanton pendant
visual kiln
raven brook
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i love when this chat goes from actual productive conversation to whatever this is ❤️

leaden fern
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yay I did it, I know calamity lore now :DDDD

visual kiln
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i dont rlly have anything to say rn aboiut it

west plume
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moon lord has ribs exposed and is still the strongest vanilla boss u gotta give him some respect

visual kiln
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other than i agree

raven brook
split mortar
raven brook
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a new user joined and started being a internet funnyperson

wanton pendant
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Theology got brought up in Lore chat again.

dusk laurel
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this channel for some reason always devolves like this

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likemost of the time whenever smth happens it gets interrupted it feels

split mortar
visual kiln
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what is moon lord made of

pulsar ocean
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Ribs

split mortar
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Distortion flesh

visual kiln
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could u eat him or would u die of toxic chemicals n stuff

split mortar
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Idk

raven brook
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I wouldn't eat anything from the distortion

pulsar ocean
leaden fern
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epic lore moment : SCAL IS BALD:D

split mortar
dusk laurel
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why r we eating things again

raven brook
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Though Braelor probably had to so, i figure its edible, to som extent

west plume
raven brook
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its also rotting

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forgot about that

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yknow

split mortar
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The distortion is rotting?

wheat walrus
pulsar ocean
wanton pendant
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Maybe Braelor just ate his armour.

raven brook
wanton pendant
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That stuff is probably edible.

raven brook
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hes fucking cut in half

west plume
raven brook
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and has been sealed in the moon for, a long while

visual kiln
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would moon lord be full of parasites and stuff

split mortar
# wheat walrus

We are already suffering from one randomiser please do not add to it

raven brook
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anyways funny idea but what if the way things from the distortion are perceived in the overworld is vastly different when they're actually within their home realm

wanton pendant
wheat walrus
split mortar
pulsar ocean
split mortar
raven brook
wheat walrus
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confusion

leaden fern
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I ate your lore

wheat walrus
split mortar
# wheat walrus what

Someone here already derailing stuff a lot by being random can you not add to what going on

raven brook
split mortar
raven brook
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tryna have actual conversations here

wanton pendant
wheat walrus
#

i see

visual kiln
dusk laurel
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yk now that its simmered in my head more, the implications of the shimmer once being very common all across the underground implies the world was alot more magical back then if the unexplained substance was everywhere

raven brook
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all of the tadc abstractions look the exact same and their design isnt even particularly esoteric or abstract funnily enough

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not really comparable at all i dont think

pulsar ocean
split mortar
visual kiln
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no im saying that bc i think an appearance inspired by tadc abstractions would be rlly cool for them

raven brook
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they're called abstractions because of what happens to the characters mind, not because of their appearance

young socket
wheat walrus
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this chat is so peculiar everytime i look at it it's either inactive or the activity is so creatureous

split mortar
#

Can this chat please lock in

west plume
raven brook
split mortar
icy veldt
wanton pendant
visual kiln
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chat is half conversation half people complaining about shitposting and then theres like 1 guy shitposting

raven brook
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Going out of the box of the usual terraria spritework and having stuff that involves 3d models, photoshop collages, etc

visual kiln
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love to see it

west plume
#

you guys see draconids in modern day kind of like how people saw birds as not really dinosaurs for ages because they werent cool enough

raven brook
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Mainly saying this becasue

#

the few distortion designs we HAVE seen

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aren't really particularly esoteric or abstract

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i mean heck

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

Yeah, but the modern ones are lame and don't wield nigh unlimited control over anything.

raven brook
#

ml is kind of a extremely basic design lets be real

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and thats not something calamity can change

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So i was wondering if maybe, when they're actually within the distortion

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they'd look different

young socket
#

hes basically like teal cthulhu but with eyes on his hands i think

raven brook
#

and their appearance as we see it as a result of them "adapting" to ourr reality's laws

visual kiln
#

maybe ml is like a mech suit being piloted by some abstract thing

dusk laurel
#

azzypost

split mortar
visual kiln
young socket
visual kiln
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for example

raven brook
#

I really like my explanation because it allows for the designs of the distortion creatures we do have to remain as they are while allowing for the actual distortion to be far more funky while still being narratively consistent

glacial rampart
#

also something that everyone gets wrong about like "creatures beyond your comprehension" is not just 'you cant tell what it is' the whole thing is like. you can see it. you can see all of it. the fact that you can understand what this thing is and the fact that it is so beyond what you've ever seen is what drives you insane

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u dont just look at cthulhu and go insane

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im bad at explaining but like

raven brook
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I'm ngl i don't even care much about the eldritch horror beyond my comprehension whatever thing

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In fact i think it has become kind of a buzzword

glacial rampart
#

true

raven brook
#

I don't really care about the distortion fitting that description

dusk laurel
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cthulhu is like the opposite of horrors beyong my comprehension

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its just a guy with squid features

raven brook
#

I just think it would be really cool if it was a very alien place in the sense it's surrealist and esoteric unlike anything in the overworld

visual kiln
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it'd be cool if the distortion looked otherworldly

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like actually alien

raven brook
#

A inspiration i had was madoka magica labyrinths

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stuff like this

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specially the 2nd image

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that is sooo distortion to me

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usage of multimedia art in distortion would be awesome imo

split mortar
leaden fern
#

quick question...

wanton pendant
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Looks like Giygas.

frozen zodiac
#

oh that's a dead god

there is a dead god at the bottom of the distortion

raven brook
#

surrealist = surreal, not conventional, intentionally bizzare

split mortar
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Ah ok

leaden fern
#

I get why scal is powerful but yharim might just be like us, the player... right?

wheat walrus
raven brook
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you could call felix colgrave's animations surrealist and esoteric4

wanton pendant
wheat walrus
#

gotcha

leaden fern
raven brook
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there is no "terrarian" species

wanton pendant
raven brook
#

human or terrarian means the same thing

leaden fern
#

Iwas gonna say that

visual kiln
split mortar
leaden fern
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yeah

visual kiln
#

terrarian means from terraria (planet/world/whatever)

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imo

raven brook
#

I mean theroetically if there were humans from outside of terraria

crude light
#

oh

raven brook
visual kiln
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a cat is a terrarian

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bc it originates from terraria

fierce pagoda
#

Hello everyone

split mortar
wanton pendant
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Hello.

fierce pagoda
#

whats crackaloring

split mortar
raven brook
#

the same way that "martian" refers to the little green guys

wanton pendant
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Horrors beyond comprehension.

visual kiln
raven brook
#

but technically you could say scutlixes are also martians but they're not little green guys

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they're martians in the sense they come from mars

leaden fern
#

hmmm maybe draedon and/or scal (maybe dog) might have done a little silly thing with yharim... you know... the usual "I'll give you this just in case" powerup.

raven brook
#

draedon did

wanton pendant
#

Draedon did.

raven brook
#

none of the others did

visual kiln
leaden fern
#

draedon did

wanton pendant
#

Calamitas would never.

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DoG probably just can't.

leaden fern
#

scal is a child, no one toucheh the chilh

raven brook
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no shes not

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shes like 28

wanton pendant
#

Not anyone, she's 28.

frozen zodiac
# split mortar Also what

idk what if dog messed up and one of the gods somehow survived in the distortion and is biding their time to strike back

raven brook
#

shed kill yharim herself if hse could

dusk laurel
#

scal hasnt been a child in like a decade

raven brook
#

and dog has no real allegiance towards Yharim and is only working with him out of mutual benefit

glacial rampart
wanton pendant
split mortar
#

Draedon gave yharim the exo tech augmentations on his armour
Calamitas left over a decade ago and left, plus yharim aint a mage
What can dog even do, he is technically still aligned though ig

leaden fern
fierce pagoda
#

oh boy

young socket
#

braelor survived for quite a while

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could be like one of dogs early victims where he was kinda cocky

raven brook
split mortar
wanton pendant
long bloom
#

hello what are we lore discussing

raven brook
#

i think youd di a typo

split mortar
wanton pendant
raven brook
#

its ok happens

young socket
#

maybe even straight after he got his armour he got an ego boost and didnt properly finish one of them off before distortion banishing them

visual kiln
young socket
raven brook
frozen zodiac
#

dont get TOO cocky star fox...

wanton pendant
#

Still would have to be on the high end to be where Braelor reasonably is.

raven brook
#

byeah anyways i hope the distortion is funky and surreal

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i know that alex wnats to do smth like thta for the distortion

visual kiln
#

whos alex

raven brook
#

dunno abt the others but distortion is so far away we'll see it when we see it

long bloom
#

looks at leegrid

dusk laurel
#

carnymassacre

visual kiln
#

oh

raven brook
#

:p

young socket
long bloom
dusk laurel
long bloom
#

leaked distortion concept art

dusk laurel
#

i think ive seen half of the active devs here say they want to see that happen, if not more

dusk laurel
wanton pendant
split mortar
#

I really should work on my ideas for a fan take on the distortion
-# hope fan take is the correct term
Would help serve as some practice on fucked up weirdness i plan on writing even later in the future

raven brook
long bloom
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that is the dog arena

raven brook
#

but idk abt specific visions

raven brook
long bloom
#

:true

split mortar
dusk laurel
glacial rampart
west plume
visual kiln
raven brook
#

its ok

long bloom
wanton pendant
west plume
#

A Mascot

raven brook
#

not really yharon is like

west plume
#

not The Mascot

dusk laurel
#

yharon is like second in command if not equal to yharim i thik

raven brook
#

I wouldn't call Yharon a mascot the entire crusade is centered around him and he'd probably be much more akin a figure of worship or praies if anything i feel

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He'd be held in way oto high a pedestal to be called a mascot imo

raven brook
#

icon i can see yeah

visual kiln
#

this randomly put into my mind a calamity mascot horror au idea

west plume
#

Withered Draedon

wanton pendant
#

Five Nights at Yharon's.

raven brook
#

swamp devourer

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aurictrap

frozen zodiac
west plume
#

calamitas is the nightguard

wanton pendant
#

So THAT'S what she was doing during those 12 years.

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Is Permafrost the phone guy?

gritty kraken
#

Focus C

glacial rampart
#

getting chased by the thing on the very right would fuck me up if the game atmosphere was good

crude light
#

i could take ir

cloud ibex
#

you are horse

crude light
#

i can not escape the accusations anywhere i go

spare pier
#

Yo ask me questions

cloud ibex
#

are you horse

spare pier
#

No I'm a fish

cloud ibex
#

fuck

icy veldt
#

Would a horse + a fish be a hish or a forse?

thick slate
#

question

split mortar
spare pier
#

Come on ask me more questions I'm tipsy

thick slate
#

what does tungsten taste like

cloud ibex
#

ruh roh

spare pier
thick slate
#

i wish i was tipsy

spare pier
spare pier
split mortar
#

Does the distortion celebrate pride month

spare pier
#

No they're homophobic

split mortar
#

Dang

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Is shadowspec canon or gay

spare pier
#

Gay

thick slate
#

what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow

long bloom
spare pier
#

Heavier than your mom

long bloom
split mortar
#

Could i chew cosmilite like indium

spare pier
#

Yeah shore

split mortar
#

Aerialite or auric whats more used for beds

cosmic zenith
#

Aerialite

hollow pivot
thick slate
#

unladen

cosmic zenith
#

Distortion Shrine

split mortar
#

Seems like its the distortion???

thick slate
#

why not purple and purple

raven brook
#

i dont think its literally the distortion cuz that

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probably ahstn been developed yet 😭

long bloom
#

wrong. distortion update tomorrow

raven brook
#

it being distortion related does make my original guess seem even more likely though

hollow pivot
#

Here's what it looks like with higher exposure btw

real silo
#

Malevolent shri

raven brook
#

i dont think the higher exposure really helps much but yeah

cosmic zenith
#

Crazy

real silo
#

Isn't that the build in the uhh what was it

raven brook
#

like you can tell what blocks its made of already

real silo
#

The newsleter

raven brook
#

nah

#

diff thing

hollow pivot
cosmic zenith
#

Do you really think I'd have hid something through exposure....

dusk laurel
#

no

glacial rampart
cosmic zenith
#

Also yeah we haven't figured out the sun yet

glacial rampart
#

sigma

dusk laurel
#

👹

thick slate
#

sigma

#

like from overwatch

real silo
long bloom
#

hmmmmmm

hollow pivot
#

I see the similarities.

thick slate
#

loll

raven brook
#

yeah those aint the same

cosmic zenith
#

Took you guys long enough lol

long bloom
cosmic zenith
#

But the real question is which came first

long bloom
#

chicken

thick slate
#

eg

hollow pivot
raven brook
#

stip i know what you are you just reused a build and replaced the tiles for a newsletter

cosmic zenith
#

Remember, there are no accidents

young socket
hollow pivot
long bloom
young socket
#

that was

#

not meant to ping

#

but whatever

spare pier
#

Sorry guys I spilled paint on Stip's latest building :(

cosmic zenith
#

I've been possessed by the Ogsculians

long bloom
hollow pivot
rain osprey
#

that one's definitely an accident

spare pier
#

No it's a very important part of God's plan

thick slate
#

by drake

cosmic zenith
#

Name one time where one of my grand sharings was accidental and ultimately inconsequential

rain osprey
#

Stip, what are the lore implications of every DoG drop being better on Exos than Yharon

spare pier
#

Worm tastes better than dragon

rain osprey
#

Ok I'll stop apologies

dusk laurel
#

yhorm was intentional trolling

dusk laurel
#

😢

long bloom
#

#justiceforyhorm

real silo
cosmic zenith
#

Yhorm definitely wasn't accidental, that's for sure

cosmic zenith
rain osprey
#

🔥

#

THAT'S MY MOTHERFUCKING WRITER 🔥 🔥

spare pier
#

That's my mother respecting writer

cosmic zenith
rain osprey
#

hehe

long bloom
#

horrible hog lore??

#

peak

raven brook
#

lore on the fucking hog update

cosmic zenith
#

Hoggers

raven brook
#

shit's fucked, ain't it?

long bloom
#

hogdate

spare pier
#

That's right. Hoglore

cosmic zenith
#

I haven't done much for this update lore-wise

west plume
#

complete and utter hogwash

rain osprey
#

there isn't a ton of lore in this update, tbf

cosmic zenith
#

But Archon System did! They're peak

spare pier
#

Yeah, most of it has gone on backend stuff

long bloom
west plume
#

Origin of Hogs

spare pier
#

Wait no Stip we didn't make stuff for this update........

west plume
#

This happened millions of years before the Dragons rose to power...

spare pier
#

It's all preparation for the next

young socket
#

the lore writers are washed theyre not making new brand new lore for the next update

rain osprey
spare pier
#

Well ok there's Text going in this update but not Lore

raven brook
cosmic zenith
#

Meanwhile I'm plotting and scheming in the background

rain osprey
#

nefarious

spare pier
#

Which we (Archonlings) are writing

rain osprey
#

DAMN IT TRIANGLE

raven brook
#

personally i'm feeling very red river hog rn

plucky juniper
west plume
plucky juniper
#

the pig's weird cousins from america

spare pier
#

Don't call them weird

cosmic zenith
#

Me showing up to dev lore chat with 17 pages worth of lore for devs to read

spare pier
#

They're trying their best

plucky juniper
#

holy shit i can post images now

spare pier
#

The imager

west plume
spare pier
#

We're still tipsy btw

raven brook
#

this chat is so orange

eager bluff
spare pier
#

Yes, I love orange

rain osprey
raven brook
# spare pier We're still tipsy btw

i have a bottle of vodky cocktail on the fridge, i'd join you but unfortuantely my face is kinda dry right now so drinking alcohol is not a good idea

#

😔

cosmic zenith
#

Roxy, you should punch someone
Tipsy gives melee bonuses....

spare pier
#

True

plucky juniper
spare pier
#

Open your windows

#

I'm coming

plucky juniper
#

ROXY POST THE HAIR EXPLODE GIF

west plume
#

How is Alcoholism explained in Calamity Mod Lore?

spare pier
#

Uuuuuh

plucky juniper
#

THAT IS MY MOOD RN

rain osprey
#

chat, is there a lore reason the bottle calls to me

eager bluff
eager bluff
spare pier
#

: thumbsup

dusk laurel
#

roxy how does hermes file his taxes

wanton pendant
#

Alcohol gives debuffs, fake fan.

spare pier
west plume
#

In real life, bottles of alcohol speak sweet nothings to me and tell me to drink them. In game, they don't speak at all. Is there a reason for this?

cosmic zenith
#

Yes

plucky juniper
eager bluff
cosmic zenith
#

12 hours of gaming a day keep the voices away

rain osprey
#

polyp launcher is so much better

glacial rampart
#

bountiful harvest when half the things it added are removed now

plucky juniper
wanton pendant
#

Will the Hog Wild update address Yharim's crippling gambling addiction?

plucky juniper
#

it carried my ass

west plume
cosmic zenith
#

We should make a mage weapon line smh....

rain osprey
spare pier
#

He has no such thing as a gambling addiction

west plume
#

Lord Yharim has no vices.

cosmic zenith
#

I do wonder which is coming sooner - my dev weapon with a Sky Update, or my dev vanity with an Underworld Update

plucky juniper
raven brook
#

Give me 500 Dollars.

Currently, Calamity Mod does not give me 500 dollars. I think it'd be beneficial for my enjoyability of the mod if i was given 500 dollars.

As the priority of the mod's development should be making a enjoyable and unique experience, i think this would be a good chance, as it would both be a unique (Only i get 500 dollars) and enjoyable (i enjoy money) feature.

rain osprey
cosmic zenith
#

I really hope I eventually get both irl ngl

rain osprey
#

write that down write that down

light linden
#

I uh

cosmic zenith
#

It would be cool as fuck

light linden
#

is this a bad time?

plucky juniper
west plume
raven brook
#

Do you have any actual lore-related questions

wanton pendant
long bloom
#

@spare pier approve my lore doc

spare pier
#

Approved

eager bluff
#

"the house always wins" my ass i punched the house and it lost -Yharim, probably

cosmic zenith
#

How many pages does the lore doc have

wanton pendant
#

Like 90.

cosmic zenith
#

One day

raven brook
#

ok guys slow down

cosmic zenith
#

Mark my words

rain osprey
#

ok everyone get serious. we're serious developers

long bloom
raven brook
#

we have actual lore questions on the way

cosmic zenith
#

Go on, Thunder

light linden
#

just curious about a small detail about draedon

cosmic zenith
# cosmic zenith Mark my words

There will be an update with so much background lore and worldbuilding that its doc will surpass the lore doc in length.

plucky juniper
# raven brook Do you have any actual lore-related questions

can you forward my suggestion:
please kill the new polterghast lore where it turns out yharim doesnt have the whole blame and its partly statis's fault; this ruins polterghast's whole point and makes me want to consume the souls of an entire country to become an undead spirit abomination

light linden
cosmic zenith
#

Probably

glacial rampart
raven brook
#

Like it's clearly an alloy

#

I feel like draedon probably wouldn't all the alloy he made the Dubious Plating

raven brook
#

true!

plucky juniper
spare pier
light linden
raven brook
#

i can see that yeah

rain osprey
#

dubious is more in the sense of "it's scrap metal. you're not really sure what it came from, and you'd rather not ask"

eager bluff
#

i assume dubious plating is just rusted to shit

raven brook
#

its just little scrap pieces of whatever draedon used to make his shit

light linden
#

also since we were talking about the distortion for a bit

visual kiln
#

hi

raven brook
#

hai azzy :D

tropic depot
#

fuck you azzy explodes you

wanton pendant
#

My actual lore questions is, as always, what the HELL is going on with the moon.
Like, that thing is totally alive and evil, I just can't prove it.

light linden
#

I still REALLY want glowing plants or trees from the distortion that we can take to the real world

cosmic zenith
#

I also intend to make some sort of doc artbook of all my research and designing surrounding environmental storytelling, narrative intention, inspirations and all that jazz because I just find those that I do read (like Silksong old stuff, RW Watcher concepts) fascinating and I also want people to appreciate the research complexity along with me

raven brook
#

moons evil

spare pier
#

He just lit the match on the pool of oil

wanton pendant
#

That's what I've been saying!

plucky juniper
light linden
#

I love glowing plants so much

spare pier
#

Like Polterghast would've happened whether Statis raided the Dungeon or not

#

He just made it happen sooner

rain osprey
plucky juniper
#

because rn im still smouldering from the horror of cheese's "Except he fucking lied about that too and was also just guilt tripping you lmaooo"

west plume
cosmic zenith
#

This is already a sort of thing that I had in my head for SSO because there's always extensive research in my development style, but I didn't get to record it, and I haven't really gotten a similar opportunity since

light linden
plucky juniper
glacial rampart
#

what is this polterghast thing brainstorm lore

plucky juniper
#

One day.

spare pier
#

I'm borderline drunk I ain't answering ya now

light linden
#

gotcha

west plume
#

spare pier
#

Xorrecot

light linden
#

@cosmic zenithyou.

spare pier
#

Corrector

cosmic zenith
#

?

rain osprey
#

LMAO

wanton pendant
plucky juniper
#

yea that sounds about right

light linden
spare pier
#

Polterghast is stable

cosmic zenith
plucky juniper
#

that said, if one existed, they might have a shot at stabilizing polterghast

light linden
spare pier
#

No

wanton pendant
#

I don't think it can not be mindless or a ghost.

west plume
#

The Greatest Psychiatrist in History vs Polterghast

light linden
#

and just become ghost monster

rain osprey
#

i think the problems is not that it's mindless, but it has way too many of them

spare pier
#

That's like asking if a bear can spontaneously develop sapience

cosmic zenith
#

It would probably dissolve/diminish over time, but not "stabilize" emotionally

plucky juniper
young socket
#

i think itd be more accurate to call polterghast a mindfull ghost creature

light linden
#

I do wonder if the dungeon would become a place like the crags eventually

young socket
#

get it

rain osprey
#

👻 <- full of mind

young socket
#

cuz its made a lot of soula

light linden
#

just supercharged with a specific type of magic

young socket
#

do u get it guys

west plume
#

being completely and totally incoherent is sorta the same thing as being mindless tho

wanton pendant
#

Yes, we get it, into the vat of acid.

spare pier
#

You know what?

young socket
#

@rain osprey KILLS YOU

spare pier
#

You her a Brazil react Tsuki

plucky juniper
#

okay polterghast could be cool but i have a more pertinent request of calamity mod

wanton pendant
rain osprey
plucky juniper
#

can you get the draconic cult to create more half-dragon monstrosities

rain osprey
#

i'm far too annoyting for that

young socket
eager bluff
#

crags became like that because it had a huge blast of a single type of magic over a fairly prolonged period of time relative to how long magic usually lasts

spare pier
#

*Maul

#

Dumbass

plucky juniper
wanton pendant
#

*Mall.
Coconut.

west plume
hollow pivot
young socket
hollow pivot
#

Embed Fail:

spare pier
eager bluff
rain osprey
#

yet. be the change you wanna see in the world

wanton pendant
#

Did a god kill Permafrost's family?

spare pier
#

I ain't even drunk

plucky juniper
spare pier
#

Just a tad tipsy

plucky juniper
#

tipsy?

#

yeah i count that

eager bluff
#

you outright said you were drunk earlier

spare pier
#

No I said I was almost drunk

eager bluff
#

like 2 minutes ago earlier

west plume
#

HELLO ALL OF ARCHON SYSTEM
CAN YOU put more stuff into the lore repository

plucky juniper
#

sorry this is what happens when alcohol does not tempt me in the slightest

spare pier
plucky juniper
#

everything that contains alcohol i assume will turn me drunk

spare pier
#

We'll see what if we can do somethin about it tomorrow tho

#

Our roomate is majoring in programming he can prolly help

plucky juniper
rain osprey
#

speaking from experience

eager bluff
#

sounds like a skill issue to me

spare pier
plucky juniper
west plume
cosmic zenith
plucky juniper
#

LMAO?

wanton pendant
#

Will Yharon finally do literally anything?

cosmic zenith
#

I need to port that one doc to the repository

spare pier
#

Bro he's doing fucking everything now

cosmic zenith
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I might also have more stuff ready somewhat soon

spare pier
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Yharon stocks are on the rise

long bloom
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peak

spare pier
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Invest in Dragoncoin

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The lore writers need money

wanton pendant
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I'm getting mixed messages. Yharon either does nothing or everything.
I will stick him in a box to be sure.

cosmic zenith
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I spread the Draconic Era brainrot to Archon System

rain osprey
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i'm not really even sure why i'm in this coversation

spare pier
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It's ok so am I

rain osprey
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i'm not a writer lol

west plume
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me neither

rain osprey
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you do more writing than me

cosmic zenith
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Fun fact

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Over the last few weeks, I've downloaded four movies, bought 2 videogames and learned the basics of several architectural movements throughout history for the same of lore writing/worldbuilding/environmental storytelling

wanton pendant
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You're telling me Goths are coming to Calamity!?

cosmic zenith
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I'm not telling you anything :p

rain osprey
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i am

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we're adding a hot topic prefab in hell

wanton pendant
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The place with the hot sauce?

rain osprey
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yeah

agile matrix
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have you ever played the binding of isaac and taken a horse pill in game

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get that announcer to say this