lore-discussion

[proud fable]

but i mena

is ectoplasm barely comparable with a planet soul?

is a creature soul worth like a planet/mass one

[final kindle]

ectoplasm is just soul slurry

[split mortar]

The world soul was also able to somehow break into many pieces

But yeah fair point

[proud fable]

but we dont have planet ectoplasm, we have just ectoplasm, you think its the same?

[split mortar]

Fair point

[proud fable]

like atoms in molecules

[final kindle]

ectoplasm is basically when a lot of souls are smushed in one single area it condenses and turns into a form matter

[proud fable]

i mean we have atoms, earth does have atoms, but we're not the same thing, maybe im saying dumb shit, stop me if so

[final kindle]

which souls can possess

[proud fable]

so like

[final kindle]

and it becomes its own form of life

[proud fable]

soul shit

[final kindle]

yeah

[proud fable]

thats so cool

so then

polterghast

[split mortar]

Ew

[proud fable]

he is made of soul shit

[final kindle]

yes, lots of it

super soul shit actually

[proud fable]

so we battle against a giant soul diarrhea with legs and claws

[final kindle]

the red one

I forgot the name lemme check wiki

[proud fable]

ruinous

ruinous soul you meant?

[final kindle]

perhaps

there's layers to it basically

[proud fable]

or the necroplasm

[split mortar]

Yharon soul shards is the closest we get to having world soul fragments in our possession
But
Thats world soul mixed with normal soul (auric soul) not world soul

[proud fable]

so like diarrhea levels

[proud fable]

isnt yharon one of the last dragons remaining?

we even kill dragonfolly and him so

[final kindle]

it's more like ectoplasm is diarrhea and the other one is solid shit

[proud fable]

lmao we are like wwf arc enemy+

[proud fable]

i guess that makes sense

[final kindle]

yes necroplasm

[proud fable]

got it

[split mortar]

The last auric dragon
Normal dragons (draconic offshoots) are still numerous

[proud fable]

rainbow magic shit+

[split mortar]

And yharon has rebirth domain so the guys coning back

[proud fable]

is dragonfolly a normal dragon?

[split mortar]

Yeah

[final kindle]

no a complete fraud with no auric soul

[proud fable]

we dont actually kill yharon forever do we?

[split mortar]

So are wyverns and duke fishron and eidolon wyrms and basilisks and prob some more

[split mortar]

In a decade

[final kindle]

none of them are true dragons, they're all offshoots

different species

[proud fable]

got it

[split mortar]

Auric dragons werent a species in the first place

[final kindle]

that's true

they all look different

[proud fable]

which other dragons do we know?

[final kindle]

zeratros

mainly

[proud fable]

oh yea right

[final kindle]

I feel like the primordial wyrm is very close to a true dragon

it literally has the power of the dragon of life

[proud fable]

so yesterday i began to write something, because i really like t o write, i would like to write everything about calamity story, and then give it to developers, just becuase i really like their work. do you want to take a look?

[split mortar]

zeratros the dragon king of primordial light
Vetrasyl the storm dragon
Zaelithar the flame dragon
Life dragon has a name i forgot
Death dragon
Tides dragon
Gloomborf the gluttony dragon
Frost dragon
Dragon of night

[proud fable]

i always tought it was something generated by terraria planet itself to defend tha byss

[split mortar]

Jared is a direct offspring of a auric dragon as well
Same with old duke

[final kindle]

yup

[proud fable]

like i dont know, an incarnation of earth fear

[split mortar]

Jared is blessed by silva and protects the terminus from xeroc
Despite its strength xeroc would mollywhop the guy in seconds if it tried fighting em

[final kindle]

but the difference is that unlike old duke it actually got auric soul powers to an extent, old duke meanwhile has got nothing except adaptation and sheer lifespan

[proud fable]

is xeroc still alive?

[split mortar]

We dont know exactly what blessings do tbf

[split mortar]

Yes

The guy is

[proud fable]

how

[split mortar]

massively stronger then anything else in calamity

[final kindle]

primordial wyrm doesn't have an auric soul, but it is blessed by silva, and then it's adapted to the harshest environment that exists in terraria

[split mortar]

Not even prime moonlord really stands a chance in a fair 1v1 and that guy is second place

[proud fable]

i like to immagine him like a thin looking guy and then he fucking hits you with devastant blows

[final kindle]

Xeroc low to no diffs everything that exists as far as we know

[split mortar]

Xeroc pre ascension

[proud fable]

wanna read the doc i was talking about? only if you want to, i won't be offended if you don't like it :))

[split mortar]

Yeah noxus/moonlord would need heavy planning and strategy to really win afaik

[final kindle]

they'd still lose

[split mortar]

Eh i dont think so cause thats be lame narratively
Big threat to world has no hope bypassing the worlds guardian when a main theme in calamity is time moves on accept that shit aint forever

[final kindle]

I feel like terrarian + yharim + draedon + noxus need to come together and invent a perpetual motion machine to defeat xeroc

basically they need to find an entirely new concept that generates power never seen before

[split mortar]

We dont really know whats going on with noxus tbf, guy could be doing some fucked up god ascension ritual but on all god essence ever if not stopped

[heavy zenith]

Super Auric Exo Miracle Ashes of Calamity

[split mortar]

Shadowspec

[proud fable]

(there are still a few corrections to do, and i wrote a little segment, so its not done still. tell me what you think about it, and correct anything that you want to :))) )

[final kindle]

the terrarian invents shadowspec, does bossrush, xeroc is still mega unimpressed

[split mortar]

Shadiwspec is dev item 💔

[final kindle]

ik, it's basically as canon as murasama

[pulsar ocean]

your body forms after the soul

[heavy zenith]

A Calamity the dragons had never foreseen "Oh my god he said the thing"

[split mortar]

I have a headcanon that ectoplasm is a material made by souls after a while to protect against the outside environment
Hallowed mechs store the souls so no reason for ectoplasm to be made but dungeon enemies have been down there for hell time so the souls have made the weird substance to protect themselves

[final kindle]

we know that you can give souls to machines, but that also influences their behavior.

To make soul for a balanced machine, what do you do?

[split mortar]

Wdym balanced machine

[final kindle]

basically one that doesn't have free will

or desire

[split mortar]

Ah
Probably steal a newborns soul that has no memories or much experience to influence the machine
But then its also a pissweak soul thats doing nothing i imagine
-# we dunno its just speculation

[final kindle]

nah it's just a bunch of souls compressed tightly so much to the point it creates an actual form of matter that then these souls can possess to affect the real world yet again

[split mortar]

Is that explicitly said?

[final kindle]

I feel like in terraria lore that's what it is

and that doesn't clash with calamity in any way, so it's safe to assume

[proud fable]

oh... that makes sens

but i mean

the abyss maybe?

something scarier and powrful

[wanton pendant]

Anahita was forced to migrate.

So no Leviathan for you.

[visual kiln]

bunny bunny bunny

[steel ginkgo]

Bro I had over 500 new messages in this channel after leaving for an hour bro

[split mortar]

Yeah that sometimes happens

[scenic olive]

[split mortar]

What

Thats correct both aint canon

[scenic olive]

i thought

it was

maybe i got headcanon mixed up

i thought muramasa was one of draedon's arsenal

[split mortar]

Its a reference item to mgrr

In name and design to the one jetstreem sam uses

[limpid saddle]

got another animation done

not as dramatic as the last one but they can't all be rune glyph brimstone lasers

[simple tangle]

Bunny bunny bunny

[nova oar]

Does Yharim have a canon or theorized biological age?

Since he ages really slow.

[split mortar]

He still in his prime afaik so probably somewhere of whats the prime for a human

[long bloom]

he's biologically 130

[limpid saddle]

i'd assume roughly 30's

[long bloom]

which is his actual age

[nova oar]

I meant, compared to a normal human.

[split mortar]

If he was biologically that he wouldnt be in his prime

[long bloom]

that's not what biologically means

he can be 130 and still really strong

[nova oar]

Like yeah, a dragon-attuned human lives longer biologically.

But you know what I meant, right?

[split mortar]

Maybe not but you still understand what the guys asking

I think

[long bloom]

yeah i'm just nitpicking

[split mortar]

Fair

[long bloom]

he's in his physical prime currently

[scenic olive]

by that logic adrenaline and rage meter are not canon

[nova oar]

I'm gonna headcanon he most closely resembles a 30yo who has never not been in peak physical conditiob.

[rose star]

Only physical? Is bro mentally depressed?

[scenic olive]

[split mortar]

The guy is sad he didnt get to commit more genocide

[rose star]

You're yharim and the yharim we fight is a clone

[split mortar]

Doesnt extend to controlling the other characters afaik

[nova oar]

Why didn't he? That's what I wanna know.

Why'd the Crusade end?

[split mortar]

Old as balls and wouldnt be able to kill the “big bad” sun god

[long bloom]

his resources were dwindling and he wasn't able to keep killing gods for that reason or because they were too elusive

or both

[nova oar]

My guess is he lost control of his empire and they rebelled against him due to him being very neglectful of his people's needs and the Crusade becoming increasingly unpopular.

[scenic olive]

bro fell off the trend

[long bloom]

he treated his soldiers extremely well actually

[nova oar]

On top of this.

[leaden bridge]

Ever think how it felt to be a yharim soldier after he broke up with draedon

Yeah guys no more anything fuck you people and you don't knoww why

And it's over some bees

[nova oar]

Genghis Khan type shit

[split mortar]

I imagine the infrastructure to make stuff would still exist

[long bloom]

so much so that some continued crusading after he left

[leaden bridge]

It was managed by draedon though

[nova oar]

That makes sense, but I was thinking more of his civilian population.

[long bloom]

they didn't actually accomplish much but still

[nova oar]

Not EVERYONE can be a soldier.

Obviously, the loss of Azafure was a big blow, too.

[scenic olive]

are we ever going to get braelor axe as a weapon

[split mortar]

Hire managers then idk
Draedon would be a massive hit but not suddenly drop yharim back down to the 1800s

[scenic olive]

braelor...

is an ant?

[split mortar]

When braelors added if ever

[split mortar]

Braent….

[long bloom]

there are Ideas™ of turning grax into that

[nova oar]

Will Braelor be a boss fight or an NPC?

[long bloom]

nothing confirmed though

npc

[split mortar]

Npc in the distortion

[long bloom]

ur on the same side

hopefully

[nova oar]

Gotcha, was guessing that.

[rose star]

Relatable tbh

[split mortar]

My terrarian sure as hell aint

[long bloom]

yes they are

because the terrarian is me.

[nova oar]

Can't wait to see how Braelor survives the Distortion for so long.

[split mortar]

Eating rocks

[long bloom]

i hope to god he's just doomguying all the creatures

[rose star]

Wait so golem is canonically above yharim?

[nova oar]

💀

[heavy zenith]

Other sun god lol

[long bloom]

[nova oar]

Golem is the fake sun god.

We're talking about Xeroc here.

[rose star]

Makes sense

I was from the time yharim was Azaroth level

[nova oar]

Azaroth?

[rose star]

Phone hard to write

Screen broken

[long bloom]

oh wow ur old

[heavy zenith]

Clearly hes talking about Azoth from Brawlhalla

[split mortar]

Golem is not a god

[nova oar]

Golem's just a robot.

[rose star]

Yes im arround 1 and 99 years old

[long bloom]

if you'd like to get up to date on the new lore, the first pin has a handy google doc with everything

it's cool you should read it

i'm not biased

[rose star]

Thank y young man

[split mortar]

Im not biased either i did not help make the doc either the doc is cool read it

[nova oar]

Know what would be cool, even if it probably won't happen?

[woeful karma]

speaking of that doc

someone should probably just click "make a copy" on that doc

to get a version thats editable

[nova oar]

A boss fight with a Braelor that got his ass beat and turned into a part of the hive mind by Noxus, and then after we beat him, we drag him out of the Distortion and restore him back to his proper form.

[woeful karma]

and have leon replace the link

[long bloom]

vanillin gave me edit perms ❤️‍🩹

[woeful karma]

oh good

[split mortar]

The contributors have edit perms why is that needed

[woeful karma]

last i heard you didnt

[split mortar]

???

[rose star]

Can someone please tell the current top 5 of the verse?

[long bloom]

xeroc
noxus
terrarian
yharim
primordial wyrm

[split mortar]

Xeroc
Prime moonlord
Noxus
Yharim/dragon king zeratros
Jared

[long bloom]

current

[split mortar]

Ah oop

[split mortar]

Wait what wyrm isnt abive yharim???

[long bloom]

fixed

[split mortar]

Lol

[rose star]

Never heard this zeratros or Jared guy, gotta read it indeed

[split mortar]

Jared is primordial wyrm, teleport in abyss and get angry guy

[rose star]

Ah, that fella

Who named him Jared? Is this someway funny? Is like naming DoG Joe

[split mortar]

Community fan name from years ago when there was a bug that made em friendly

[rose star]

Makes sense

[long bloom]

specifically the streamer hectique

[rose star]

But funny I expected Draedon or Scal to be above him

[split mortar]

Game progression is accurate to boss strength and primordial wyrm is post game

[final kindle]

specifically hectique

[long bloom]

yes i said that

[rose star]

Lol

Can't wait to be reveled that were yharim third born son

[worldly spindle]

Would be really funny if the mod had different endings, for a lack of better terms

[rose star]

Yeah they saw this meme before making that Napoleon movie

[worldly spindle]

Like

Final boss is either Xeroc or Noxus depending on your alignment

Shin Megami Tensei style

[rose star]

I was going to say marry scal but that works

[split mortar]

How would they tell your alignment

[split mortar]

She is aroace

[dusk laurel]

🥹

[worldly spindle]

Blanket term. You'd probably just make the choice directly after defeating Yharim.

[woeful karma]

i will put you in a wine press

[sacred pilot]

If I have to sit through one more fucking Calamitas thirst trap.

[rose star]

Political marriage it's!!

[dusk laurel]

calamity fans try not to want calamitas impossible challenge

shes aroace!!!!

one day the sun will set and 7 billion will die

[rose star]

This is a rather interesting experience indeed

[worldly spindle]

To be fair, she's a charming lass. And the game doesn't explicitly state that she's aroace so they don't know any better.

[sacred pilot]

She's a character who is defined by the fact that she never had control over her own life tf you mean political marriage.

[split mortar]

Also what politics would demand her accept that

[rose star]

Idk was just saying

[rose star]

Yeah sometimes life is just that brutal fella

[light linden]

I still want calamitas bwaaa

[visual kiln]

bunny bunny bunny

[steel ginkgo]

Yeah, not like there is much stuff to govern over

[split mortar]

And she aint a politician

[steel ginkgo]

Anarchy to the extreme

She ain't got time for paperwork

[feral skiff]

ah hell nah the evil man killed everyone 💀 this is truly a.. Calamity Modification

[barren mortar]

[split mortar]

Not everyone just half of em

[steel ginkgo]

Yharim confirmed as Thanos ???

[split mortar]

Yharim wanted more dead then half

[steel ginkgo]

Not perfectly balanced, then.

[raven brook]

i think calamitas should eat a burger

i want a burger

[woeful karma]

maybe something like 80% . perhap s.

[split mortar]

Ok calamitas

[woeful karma]

im getting burger >:3

[raven brook]

oh yay

[young socket]

steals ur burger

[limpid saddle]

do you think calamitas clone is also aroace

[green prairie]

i'd assume so? besides they're likely more focused on finding who they are in the world more than finding a special someone

[untold bluff]

Are bosses like providence and slime god mute or do they just refuse to speak to the player during the fight

can slime god even speak???

[green prairie]

i imagine Slime God is sentient enough to do so, but doesn't for some reason? Providence probably views the player as the pinnacle of sin and suffering so she probably doesn't say anything to them

[dusk laurel]

all gods are sapient so they likely atleast could talk before they ascended idk if ascending affected any god's ability to speak

well except for ravager hes a zombie so very likely not

[long bloom]

providence is too pissed to say anything, she just wants you dead as fast as possible

[raven brook]

Slime God i assume could sitll communicate in some way

[untold bluff]

obviously not ravager

[raven brook]

even if it couldn't literally Talk Verbally

Which

it's stil possible it coulfd

[green prairie]

noo...

[raven brook]

Even if it like can't verbally communicate in any way

It could still communicate

[green prairie]

form itself and the paladins into letters

[raven brook]

Which once again reinforces how slime god ingame currently is an asshole

a jerk, even

statis tell yo god to chill tf out

[green prairie]

Slime God will always be endlessly fascinating to me

[young socket]

slime god forms a middle finger out of slime because fuck you specifically

[long bloom]

[raven brook]

im a slime god hater

fuck yo god statis

[long bloom]

@random mulch post ur slime god again i wanna see it

[raven brook]

go back to worshipping signus he's cooler

[dusk laurel]

slime god sucks i hate that bitch they dont even look cool

[green prairie]

i'm a slime god lover. they're very cool :3

[long bloom]

no it has negative aura

[raven brook]

oooohh look at meee im the slime god

[random mulch]

uhhhh oke.

[raven brook]

im now gonna jump you for no reason

[long bloom]

yey

[raven brook]

i wont make any attempts to communicate why im doing this whatsoever

[green prairie]

spooky

[raven brook]

i will then run away from you

and guess what

guess what im gonna do

thats right

im gonna JUMP YOU AGAIN

AND THEN FUCKING DIE

[dusk laurel]

an enigma

[green prairie]

(*or again for a final time later if we include HotOG, which i know isn't canon but i like to imagine it is because i like goozma)

[random mulch]

make slime god an npc and you can either ask to fight or just jump 'em

[raven brook]

Slime God is kinda like Calclone i suppose

[dusk laurel]

i need an actual reason why sg attacks us in the statis update i cant

[raven brook]

in that the lore that is meant to be

isnt reflected at all in gameplay

[dusk laurel]

statis if your addition doesnt come with this im never saving your boyfriend

[raven brook]

he just jumps us for no reason, fucks off, makes no attempt at explaining why hes doing this

[green prairie]

i meannnnnnn. terrarian kills a LOT of slimes

[raven brook]

and then does the exact same thing again and dies for it

[dusk laurel]

who CARES

[raven brook]

See. i see people say this

[green prairie]

ME becauss they're cute

[raven brook]

and this makes HIM NO LESS OF A DICK

First of all

IT'SW SELF DEFNESE

THE SLIMES ARE TRYING TO FUCKIN KILL ME

Secondly

They like. cant even think properly

theyre slimes

They have no Brain

Third. ok third

It's not like slime god is the like. leader of all slimes or something

he just has power over them

And FINALLY

FOURTH

The blight slimnes, which ARE in direct control of SG

Which you DO need to kill to spawn him

see. thats a valid reason to be upset slime god

you could just

you know

just. just tell me to stop

or atleast like

after the fight is over try to talk it out man idk 😭

YOU DONT NEED TO JUMP ME TWICE

[green prairie]

oh well i just think he's neat

[raven brook]

WITHOUT DOING ANY ATTEMPT AT COMMUNICATION WHATSOEVER

[dusk laurel]

sg's whole thing is that they want to uphold balance but then they have no reason for attacking us other than killing slimes??????

i hate this fucker

[raven brook]

YOURE A FULLY SAPIENT BEING YOU CAN COMMUNICAE I BELIEVE YOU

[dusk laurel]

potential god

[raven brook]

Again it's a calclone situation

The lore is trying to be one thing and the gameplay just isnt matching it

If he's even supposed to be a "neutral" god, his actions dont rly make any sense

Atleast not for the tim being

I can't wait for slime god rework

cuz oh lordy me 😭

[green prairie]

my sleep deprived brain processed that at "tim rework" and i was very confused

[raven brook]

tim is being reworked

he now oneshots you with his magic spells

[zenith geode]

👀

[raven brook]

no matter your defense

you just always die in one hit

always

[green prairie]

man what a meanie...

[zenith geode]

there are some who call him the greatest mage in the caverns

[young socket]

he gets rune wizards contact damage

on all of his attacks btw

[green prairie]

does the title apply to whoever passes through the caverns or do they have to live there? i passed through as a borderline god once, does that make me the greatest mage?

[wanton pendant]

You're not Tim.

[spare pier]

The Lore Team spending 3 years making a narrative under the constraint of Fa8solian Regime only for him to 8e deposed and now fuck

[young socket]

"and now fuck"

[split mortar]

You aint tim

[young socket]

fire writing

[green prairie]

i aspire to be... maybe even better

[dusk laurel]

💣

kills stupi

[young socket]

nuh uh

im too awesome

[spare pier]

This is the sum-up of our current situation

[dusk laurel]

is it freeing at least

[light linden]

hi vriska

[spare pier]

Though we don't intend on rewriting anything actually meaningful

8ut we will make allocations for things to deliver them 8etter and some details will 8e changed accordingly

Most of it relating to how, o8viously, the implementation of things can 8e actually meaningful now so we will change some things around to make them as good as possi8le

No, DoG is not eating Providence

We said a lot of shit trying to justify our constraints in the past

That was not one of them

[plucky juniper]

@spare pier what happens if you ask a magic 8 ball

[spare pier]

That just means you're asking me and I know everything

[long bloom]

what's slime god's name

[split mortar]

You are a sphere?

[plucky juniper]

what would happen if YOU, VRISKA, asked a magic 8 8all.

[split mortar]

frobmoolg

Xzier stop using your blue powers

[green prairie]

until he gets a new canon name, im calling him goozma. its silly, it fits, and it reminds me of pokémon sun and moon like all good things should

[long bloom]

no

[young socket]

does that we mean we get to shake you around

[long bloom]

a little confusing but it kinda fits yeah

[green prairie]

ik i keep yammering on about my headcanons but i always did like how HotOG's Goozma actually kinda gives an interesting endgame to Slime God? they stop running and holding back to showoff their true power, and i think thats neat

[untold bluff]

slime god is a separate being from goozma

slime god is simply a catalyst

[split mortar]

Dont reverse the unnoficial name in the evil places evil thing

[long bloom]

slime god redemption arc where they get the stick out of their ass and actually try to stop you might be fire

[plucky juniper]

Me frantically shaking Vriska while yammering at her the question, "Why won't DoG eat Providence's soul? Is he STUPID?"

[split mortar]

Isnt it left a bit ambiguous in hotog what exactly goozma is with the added draetalk options

[green prairie]

because im protecting her duhhh

[untold bluff]

goozma is actually a species, with only one existing per planet, being the sum of all of a planet's slimes

[cloud ibex]

transmasc calclone

[split mortar]

Because providence dies to you not dog dog isnt there to eat it

[plucky juniper]

the fact that i am holding her in my hands implies you have failed in this

[cloud ibex]

chat am i cooking or am i deserving of a public execution

[plucky juniper]

you are not vriska

[dusk laurel]

cook

[plucky juniper]

im tossing you into dog's room for this

[green prairie]

cook actually? i support his transition

[split mortar]

Its literally the case tho

[plucky juniper]

and also taking away one electron from each of your atoms

[split mortar]

I got that dog in me ill win

[split mortar]

Im not kiri im immune

[plucky juniper]

too late.

[cloud ibex]

dogthey melon gun

you heard it here first folks

[plucky juniper]

you are now IONIZED.

[long bloom]

[light linden]

what is going on here?

[split mortar]

Wrong theres a dog eating my organs help

[split mortar]

Idk

[cloud ibex]

too late you're a dogthey now

[split mortar]

💔

[raven brook]

got a burger

[long bloom]

gg

[split mortar]

Theyre calling me a dogthey

[raven brook]

you have more cat energy im

imo

catthey

[slender orbit]

An interesting option: could the guide Yarim be someone who lost his memory during a battle with a god or something even more powerful?

[long bloom]

what

[slender orbit]

Just a theory

[split mortar]

wdym by guide yarim

[long bloom]

i don't understand

[green prairie]

i think they mean is Yharim the Guide

[long bloom]

???????????

[green prairie]

(which no thats boring)

[simple tangle]

????

genuinely on par with Knight Papyrus

[spare pier]

?

[split mortar]

The guide npc is someone who lived in azafure and misses his wife
Yharim is in the aerie gaslighting you and has the most dialogue in the game

[split mortar]

Thats what you do to magic 8 balls

[raven brook]

Yeah you shake 8 balls around

[spare pier]

You can't shake me

You ask me

[slender orbit]

I mean that the guide could be Yarim who lost his strength and memory during a battle with someone.

[spare pier]

That's how people work

[raven brook]

No that's

That's not no

[long bloom]

...no

[split mortar]

Yharim has dialogue tho he literally talks to you

[raven brook]

That's just Not man i'm sorry 😭

[split mortar]

Also apart from xeroc yharim is beating every god solo atp

[plucky juniper]

cough

m

[slender orbit]

When?

[raven brook]

the lore whispers

that drop from bosses

that's yharim

talking to you

[split mortar]

Every whisper dropped by a boss is yharim

[slender orbit]

I have never been through this before and it has never happened.

[split mortar]

Talking to you

They drop when tou kill a boss with calamity installed

[worldly spindle]

It's an item

[slender orbit]

А

[raven brook]

Assuming you have calamity installed you should have gotten them

[long bloom]

the lore items

the lore items are yharim talking to you

[split mortar]

Yharim concept art and how tall he is

[raven brook]

yeah

[woeful karma]

have YOU seen yharim and the guide in the same room?

no?

i ddidnt think so

[slender orbit]

No, well, that would just explain that the guide knows all the crafts.

[woeful karma]

hes malnourished and shrunk

[raven brook]

he knows them becasue

ahem

[long bloom]

what

[green prairie]

i knew yharim was a big guy but holy moly

[raven brook]

✨ its a videogame ✨

[long bloom]

also why would yharim know how to craft a vortex chair

as opposed to the guide

[green prairie]

in what solar system would Yharim know how to craft anything Draedon makes by memory???? he's smart but he is not THAT smart

[long bloom]

what's the difference

[proud fable]

xzier my goat

[raven brook]

There is no feasible lore explanation for the guide to know how to craft literally Everything including things that you literally Invent in-lore and things made from materials that have never previously been accessible like the pillar materials yes

It's just

videogame mechanic

[woeful karma]

literally instantly fixed by hardmodifying it

[raven brook]

there's no lore reason for it

[slender orbit]

I just had a theory that Yarim was a guide and that, in my opinion, explained why the guide knew so much.

[woeful karma]

yarkim

[long bloom]

how do you explain how yharim knows so much then

[split mortar]

Yharim would not know half the stuff we make either

[green prairie]

i guess i can never fault someone for having headcanons, hell i yammer on about mine a lot, so y'know what go off

[raven brook]

I feel bad 😭

[proud fable]

yharim worked to microsoft i think

[split mortar]

Same

[raven brook]

This guy's first language probably isn't english

[worldly spindle]

The guide is something else entirely, this is true for both vanilla and Calamity

[raven brook]

And they don't seem very familiar with the lore

[woeful karma]

yea

[proud fable]

me?

[real glen]

Question
Is guide know about Dragon Aerie location

[raven brook]

not you

[long bloom]

quick someone plug the doc

[proud fable]

oh okok

[long bloom]

probably not

[split mortar]

#lore-discussion message

[proud fable]

thanks for the clarification

[green prairie]

absolutely 0% chance he knows

[slender orbit]

My personal theory is that Yarim is a guide.

[plucky juniper]

honestly that sounds about right

[split mortar]

Lore doc with basically all public info including dev statements

[worldly spindle]

The only individuality that the mod gives the Guide is this quote:

"Could you be so kind as to, ah...check hell for me...? I left someone I kind of care about down there."

[slender orbit]

But it's unlikely

[woeful karma]

i forgot about this

[raven brook]

It's nto unlikely

It's straight up impossible

[woeful karma]

writing the most tragic guide yaoi

[raven brook]

Like it's not even a theory it's just objectively incorrect, i'm sorry 😭

[split mortar]

Yharim tells you to fight him after you sacrifice the guide for the wall of flesh
And sacrificing the guide is canon iirc

Yharim would be dead if was guide

[mighty zenith]

azafurian guide is pretty cool

[raven brook]

We KNOW what Yharim looks like and where he is

And he is directly talking to you thourhg hte lore whispers

[long bloom]

[split mortar]

Yharim would also be like 50% taller

[raven brook]

The guide and yharim are separate characters

[split mortar]

Then the guide

[real glen]

Guide is moonlord's son
Guide = Yharim
"He is evil "

[woeful karma]

oh my god

does anyone else here remember bandit xeroc

[dusk laurel]

🙏

[long bloom]

??????????? 😨

[worldly spindle]

They did say a guide, which is an interesting thought in of itself but ultimately deviates from the original question they were trying to answer

[woeful karma]

ancient ass joke from when the lore rewrite was new

[mighty zenith]

kind of?

oh yeah wait

because they're both nonbinary

[woeful karma]

real ones remember when xeroc was hard nonbinary

[mighty zenith]

i remember it now

[long bloom]

lmao

[mighty zenith]

there are only 3 nonbinary people

bandit, xeroc and kris deltarune

[long bloom]

clearly this means the bandit is shakidou

[woeful karma]

also dante limbus company

[long bloom]

(only 2 they/thems currently)

[raven brook]

dantehhh

the fucking boughs dantehh

[split mortar]

Damn which one am i

[mighty zenith]

all of them

[woeful karma]

wHY

ARE MY MESSAGES DELETING THEMSELVES

[raven brook]

evil

[woeful karma]

[real glen]

Melon gun WHAT

[mighty zenith]

censoring the evil

[raven brook]

It's rude to speak of someone who's listening.

[split mortar]

What

[green prairie]

cough

[split mortar]

?????

[mighty zenith]

(ok that one was me

[woeful karma]

ok that time wasnt my message deleting itself

yeah

:3

[mighty zenith]

: 3

[green prairie]

damn, ig we aren't connected

[split mortar]

What did octo say about me i missed it (one before the garbo one)

[woeful karma]

why is it wide

[raven brook]

Xeroc suffered from the syndrome where any calamity mod gods who are explictly they/them get somehow changed to have an additional set of pronouns

[woeful karma]

what did you do

[raven brook]

It happens with fan characters too

[mighty zenith]

long face

[woeful karma]

it was the same thing

[split mortar]

Oh ok

Im gaster now?

[woeful karma]

disappointing tbh

[raven brook]

it's the curse

i couldn't escape it myself

gods aren't allowed to have they/them

[mighty zenith]

anti woke gods?!

[raven brook]

they either get a new set pronouns added or they fucking die

[split mortar]

💔 shakidou keep yourself safe jacob bryson emote

[mighty zenith]

i cant believe the calamity writers hate queer people

[woeful karma]

[steel ginkgo]

This reminds me of that one Valefisk video: the three genders; masc, fem, and goblin

[raven brook]

It's a side effect of divine ascencion unfortunately

[mighty zenith]

why isnt it called truesie

this sucks

[raven brook]

If your pronouns are exclusively they/them and you ascend Something will happen

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/isat-in-stars-and-time-cupcake-siffrin-gif-5635397053521004802

[woeful karma]

IKR

every time i try to use it i type in truesie

[mighty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/something-omori-gif-21795527

[raven brook]

bandit manages to survive as a they/them because they're not a god

[feral skiff]

waiting for something to happen?

[wheat walrus]

here

[split mortar]

This reminded me that isat also has a thing called something iirc

[barren mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/sound-the-car-alarm-cat-gif-9895924581726852336

[raven brook]

theory:

[wheat walrus]

whar

[mighty zenith]

a game th

[green prairie]

what if the guide is xeroc....

[raven brook]

Bandit is actually Xeroc who separate their divinity from themselves as a separate being. The reason they did this is so they can continue being they/them while not being hit by the horrendous horrible anti-they/them divine curse. FACT

[wheat walrus]

so true

[woeful karma]

miquella???

[limpid saddle]

dark evil temptation to sprite my visual ideas of the God of Dogma & God Of War as YOMI characters so I don't actually have to create good character designs

[raven brook]

🔥

[wheat walrus]

el drink???

[woeful karma]

calamitas MADE UP her backstory so you would FEEL BAD FOR HER

[wheat walrus]

lemme get the copypasta

[wheat walrus]

Calamitas was a godless, horrible child of destruction who loved torching the kind and god-loving civilians of Azafure on the daily and sentencing their innocent souls to eternal torment 😰☠️ one day, the ever-graceful Brimstone Elemental tried to reason with her, but the wretched child burnt all of her own family members in retaliation and beat up the elemental, destroying Azafure 💥😱 after this, she realized that she was a horrible person and decided to join Yharim's military to turn a new leaf, she would purify and reason with towns of evil god cultists who sacrificed child soldiers to feed their own wretched evil gods ❤️‍🩹🌹 eventually, she ran unto the irredeemable and vile Ilmeris kingdom ran by the malicious, nefarious, horrible, terrible Otonilou and the evil bum fraud Tyrian who could never match Yharim, she tried to reason with them but to no avail, so she gave them a tan and a boiled pasta of kindness and purification 💖🥹 some time later, the evil spirit of the wretched Otonilou began taking over Calamitas and made her regress into a horrible adult of destruction, she decided to seal her ever-vigilant and caring father figure Permafrost in the Cryogen, Yharim tried to explain her that she was committing to wrongdoings, but it did not work and she fled because even she couldn't bring herself to harm the handsome, loving, kind, caring and wholesome Yharim 💔🥀 at some point, she broke into the smart and compassionate and all-caring Draedon the scientist's laboratory, releasing all of his incomplete experiment and causing widespread natural disasters 😢😨

[split mortar]

Omni why do you have fingers

[wheat walrus]

why not

[pulsar ocean]

Isn’t miquella just gay

[split mortar]

The grass had teeth

[wheat walrus]

it's okay melon

we all have teeth sometimes

[pulsar ocean]

Have u seen today’s modulo leaks

[wheat walrus]

yes

my bf sends them to me like always

[pulsar ocean]

I thought mahito already reincarnated but he lowkey camping

[limpid saddle]

i hope i dont get modulo spoilers in the calmain lore chat

[limpid saddle]

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT

[wheat walrus]

😭

im crine

kozz dont say anything else

[limpid saddle]

WHAT POSSIBLE REASON COULD YOU HAVE TO NOT SPOILER TAG THAT

[pulsar ocean]

[split mortar]

😭

[pulsar ocean]

I thought there wasn’t anyone else interested in jjk in the chat 😭

[steel ginkgo]

Just be me:
oblivious to modulo

No feelings

[limpid saddle]

i've been catching up on jjk volumes through the physical english releases I don't even know what happens after Kusakabe fights Sukuna

[pulsar ocean]

Those who know

[limpid saddle]

thats not a good excuse to not spoiler tag something

especially if it came out fucking yesterday

[wheat walrus]

more like this morning

✌️

[limpid saddle]

like how would you feel if the new ultrakill layer dropped TODAY & somebody went off on here revealing the coolest new shit that was supposed to be a suprise & massive plot upheavals

[pulsar ocean]

Id play it before going on social media

[pulsar ocean]

Also you wouldn’t expect ultrakill spoilers in calmain

[wheat walrus]

i sure as hell would

ts community is like

hella overlapped w ultrakill

[limpid saddle]

I DIDN'T EXPECT FUCKING JJK SPOILERS IN CALMAIN BUT LOOK WHERE WE ARE NOW

[pulsar ocean]

You had the whole day to read it

[wheat walrus]

chill out everyone

pls

[limpid saddle]

i don't have shit

[wheat walrus]

i understand that spoilers are no good, they're bad

but it's not the end of the world aight

[limpid saddle]

i didnt even know modulo dropped today i dont know the release schedule

[wheat walrus]

kozz, just say sorry
ggg, close the crashout

[pulsar ocean]

Every Thursday like with jjk spoilers

[wheat walrus]

[limpid saddle]

really at this point it's more about kozz defending his lack of common courtesy over the spoilers at this point

[wheat walrus]

ok ok

kozz

say sorry

and ggg end the crashout yea

[pulsar ocean]

Mb fam I won’t spoil modulo more than I did ✌️

[wheat walrus]

:p

there

hugs and headpats or smth

[limpid saddle]

aight i'll take it

& this kids is why you always use spoiler tags

[pulsar ocean]

Kindness wins

[sacred pilot]

Anything but Calamity lore in the Calamity lore discussion channel.

[wheat walrus]

been like this since the dawn of time

[split mortar]

Fork found in kitchen, melon found terrarianposting, sky is blue

[long bloom]

i know how to get back on topic....

guys wh

[limpid saddle]

forget what bosses taste like

what do accessories taste like

I think the bloody worm scarf if prepared could be pretty tasty

[wheat walrus]

grass is green

[plucky juniper]

seeing that jjk spoiler argument reminds me of how someone responded to an astrum deus redesign i was sharing by posting an image of the final boss of elden ring

luckily i have alr spoiled on what that guy looks like, but damn

[reef wigeon]

Yeah

But

It says "lore discussion", but doesn't specify what about

[steel ginkgo]

Oh boy, this chat is awesome bro oh my

[reef wigeon]

Yeah, like Almighty/traitor

[plucky juniper]

i fuck with that title man

traitor almighty

see, the reason why yharim convinced so many was his sheer skill in the languages

[long bloom]

shakidou is the last bastion

[limpid saddle]

avatar the last nonbinary

that's why Yharim killed them

it was unrelated to the god part for once he just REALLY hates nonbinary people

[split mortar]

What the fuck

[limpid saddle]

yeah yharim's out to get your ass

[long bloom]

😨

[elder widget]

@manic coral asking for a yume friend, what is draedon made out of

Pure steel?

[barren mortar]

space metal of some kind id bet

[long bloom]

draedon isn't from space

he was built on terraria

[plucky juniper]

well, he USED to be from space

[long bloom]

my guess would be titanium

[split mortar]

In old lore

[plucky juniper]

but old lore and yknow

i still ponder if he should've remained an alien or just stick with him being him

because he just looks so fucking weird

[split mortar]

The draedon body following us in exo fight yeah is prob some wack ass drone not made of much important like iron or titanium or steel

[long bloom]

wulfrum

[sacred pilot]

He was probably made of steel.

Nothing really out of the ordinary.

[plucky juniper]

like, i dont blame whoever wrote the exo mech forum lore text to decide draedon was an alien, he just looks like a mechanized alien

[manic coral]

code

thoguh i assume you mean his various recon bodies

in which case, whatever spare materials he ahs laying around

[barren mortar]

he knows youre gonna blow em up so he doesn't spend too much metal on them

[cloud ibex]

i don't think he knows you will but ultimately he clearly doesn't care because it wasn't that important

[raven brook]

Yeah probably just. random metal

He dosent rly gaf if his recon bodies explode

[woeful karma]

the "main" body from concept art is probably some super alloy

[raven brook]

fucked up that people in calamity probably running phones on draedon

Draedon-OS operating system

[eager bluff]

arsenal

[woeful karma]

draedon is collating SO much personal data but its not to serve you ads its to run population simulations

[eager bluff]

incredible things big e has made:
brainstorm boc
arsenal for ccr

[woeful karma]

ARSENAL MY LOVE

i never did finish making that fabsol account for arsenal

[eager bluff]

i never did finish making The Soup Thread

[woeful karma]

i wonder which area of science is draedons least favorite

[eager bluff]

probably psychology

[split mortar]

Idk if draedon can have fav sciences

[eager bluff]

he can have least favorites considering we know he fucking hates when his creations have free will

[steel ginkgo]

🤓 erm actually all metals technically come from space

[woeful karma]

WRONG

[eager bluff]

"🤓 erm ackshually" boar yourself now

[steel ginkgo]

Erm actually I may be a little stupid or are we including synthetic elements

Can somebody mock up a new element on the Periodic Table and it's just Yharonium or some shit

-# which actually sounds really cool even if it is just auric

[barren mortar]

draedon has a periodic table 3 times larger than ours that we don't get to see

[steel ginkgo]

Pissium, shitium, fuckaroundandfindoutium

[eager bluff]

draedon element

used to make draedon bars

[nova oar]

Is there a canon amount of time after the Crusade that the games takes place?

[dusk laurel]

around half a year

[nova oar]

Gotcha

[worldly spindle]

“While you may be an exceptional individual, I question your naming capabilities.”

[split mortar]

Theres a timeline in the pinned lore doc if you have other timeline questions

[elder widget]

The recon body we see in game seems to look like the same material as the arsenal gear. Is that like a steel or do you guys have any idea of an equivalent material

[split mortar]

Arsenal gear is made of what we use to make it

[elder widget]

We’re trying to figure out how heavy/dense draedon’s recon body is

[elder widget]

I loooove scraps

[split mortar]

Its also being resprited eventually iirc so it gets more advanced per tier

[steel ginkgo]

[elder widget]

Yuh

[manic coral]

I'd say it's probably lighter than steel overall

[elder widget]

I appreciate the help

[manic coral]

probably more equivelent to a lighter metal in weight

[steel ginkgo]

Light as aluminum foil, harder than tungsten

Costs a gazillion EXO bucks to manufacture a single plate

-# oh God did I just make a crypto currency

[manic coral]

probably something more like titanium

[dusk laurel]

the player uses enchanted aerialite for t1 - draedon used unenchated aerialite
we use mythril/orichalcum for t2 - draedon probably used the same thing or smth similar
we use infected plating for t3 - draedon absolutely did NOT use that for t3 but we have no idea what it used
t4. - no he did not use uelibloom because it does NOT exist and will be deleted in the future (idk what he used)
we (will) use auric in t5 - this one is self explanatory (he didnt use auric)

[steel ginkgo]

Sorry to put words in your mouth, those were the first two elements to come to mind

[manic coral]

yeah they're more like

stronger recreations of the normal varients of the gear

[steel ginkgo]

And of course, tungsten is represented in terraria as wearable by anyone, despite being the densest metal

[elder widget]

I see I see

[steel ginkgo]

Light as a feather, but also at the same he's senator armstrong

[split mortar]

This just proves the arsenal gear aint useful to weightscaling no

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[steel ginkgo]

Oh, hell, checked Cei's bio, I did not mean to put word in to the main writer's mouth

Sorry

[dusk laurel]

because of the fact that draedon has used cosmilite (dog's armor) and still uses it (exo mechs alloy) i wonder how many of the godseeker knights or normal soldiers got to use it at all

[light linden]

hi cei

[dusk laurel]

i wouldnt be surprised if like some of his higher-end arsenal blueprints that we botched had some in it

[steel ginkgo]

Does draedon own an airfrier

[dusk laurel]

yes

[steel ginkgo]

[hushed jasper]

Sweet

[steel ginkgo]

Whew, thought I needed to cancel him on DragonFolly

That was my attempt at a Twitter joke

[feral skiff]

i got the joke

you are very funny and cool 🖊️📜🔥🗣️

[steel ginkgo]

[scenic olive]

draedenium

[sacred pilot]

Probably just the Knights.

I think fielding a whole army with Cosmlite is too expensive.

[dusk laurel]

ik

[scenic olive]

cosmilite is expensive but

dog had a whole armor made from it

or was that old lore

[long bloom]

his armor is still cosmilite

draedon specifically talks about it in the planetoid log

and how it's elastic for some reason

[proud fable]

was yharim that made that armor for dog?

[split mortar]

Yharim asked draedon to make it and draedon did so iirc

[proud fable]

cool

so

is yharim currently alive?

[long bloom]

yep

chilling in the dragon aerie

training probably

[proud fable]

it would be so cool to finally face him and we're like "look, i fixed almost all of your messes"

[long bloom]

true

[proud fable]

and what about xeroc

what is his relationship with yharim and draedon

are they enemies, they dont care or

dunno

[robust osprey]

xeroc is a god and yharim is godphobic

as for draedon

he doesnt know xeroc at all

lmao

[proud fable]

oh okok

well that makes sense

didnt remember that xeroc is actually a god lol

[noble falcon]

Could Yharim beat Nubert from Deltarune
I’m confident the answer is no

[split mortar]

Deltarune impossible to powerscale

[woeful karma]

nubert no diffs

[woeful karma]

yeah

mostly because we dont know what constitutes power within a dark world

[feral skiff]

why can we dash specifically through bosses

[long bloom]

???

rams can dash through any enemy

[feral skiff]

but why

[woeful karma]

video game

[limpid saddle]

transdimensional shield wormhole that only works if you scream & ram it into something

[long bloom]

calamity is a 2016 terraria mod developed by fabsol

[light linden]

an actual reason could be you just push them out of your way

[split mortar]

Ram dashes are a vanilla thing

[limpid saddle]

i like my explanation better because i do not know how one could 'push' Thanatos out of the way

[long bloom]

when

[light linden]

also we could just be

[split mortar]

Solar armour

[limpid saddle]

he canonically weighs more than YOUR mother

[light linden]

sidestepping them

[long bloom]

solar?

yeah

[split mortar]

Ram dashes existence is vanilla not fabsol
Their prminence in calamity is hellish tho

[dusk laurel]

i dont think everything needs like a reason

vibeo game mechanic

there are so many things that terraria does thats just unrealistic

[raven brook]

people when they realize that video games are supposed to be fun and thus there are mechanics in place to make them fun

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-future-drake-life-is-good-high-off-life-gif-18160700

[leaden bridge]

The concept of dashing is on itself fully fantastical

You can't, you can't do that

There's no way to do that

[raven brook]

ive done it

[leaden bridge]

clearly

[dusk laurel]

brazilian people can double jump or whatever

[agile matrix]

trans people can triple jump iirc

[limpid saddle]

no they can air dash thats a whole different thing

[agile matrix]

ahh i see

[split mortar]

So the terrarian if holding a ram dash accessory is trans

[limpid saddle]

the air dash is omnidirectional but a double jump only goes vertically up

[limpid saddle]

yeah sure

[agile matrix]

theyre genderfluid

they can dash sideways

or downwards, sometimes

or upwards, sometimes

or diagonally, sometimes

[limpid saddle]

wait diagonally?

[dusk laurel]

iirc pbg accessory

[eager bluff]

1.4.5 has at least one too

depending on if you count each chillet separately

[agile matrix]

in the Mechanical Trio lore item, it mentions the trio is looking for evidence of the divine, which “unfortunately” puts us in their crosshair

why are we in their crosshair if we are not divine in nature

(or, why does Yharim believe that we’re in their crosshairs for that reason

[young socket]

wof essence lingers on the player

[agile matrix]

WoF isnt godly in nature though?

[dusk laurel]

it stored god essence

[agile matrix]

aaah

[dusk laurel]

yharim used it as a waste dump basically

it became obsolete after dog just showed up

[fast aspen]

What if the Devourer had human form?

[agile matrix]

Naga

[fast aspen]

What?

[agile matrix]

DoG would either be

fat
very skinny
partially snake

or both!

(why would the gigantic worm want to be Small)

[fast aspen]

Well

Maybe devourer of gods He was an ordinary man who was transformed into this mighty worm

[wanton pendant]

I doubt it.

[split mortar]

That would be underwhelming

Theoretically possible but that could also entail weaver would be that as well

Since its possible weaver is a failed dog prototype

[wanton pendant]

Noxus is actually just some weirdo turning people into worms.
Every worm was Noxus all along.
That's why we gotta kill 'em.
Before they make Yharim Worm, Xeroc Worm, Calamitas Worm, and so on.

[agile matrix]

Noxus is a coagulate of all worm ai

[fast aspen]

Do you have any theories about how xeroc and noxus been crated?

[split mortar]

Xeroc is a human who god ascended with zeratros’ soul after ml drop kicked the world

[wanton pendant]

We know how Xeroc was created.

Noxus we know exists.

[split mortar]

For noxus uhhh
I dont know enough to make theories, all we know of noxus is
Made CV
Boss of DoG
Source of hivemind in distortion
Threatens the world
Not even name dropped in game atm, not enough for me to ponder without making up stuff for noxus

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc's evil twin who died while they were making Terraria (the game) and haunt it.

[plucky juniper]

ive heard that noxus, before he got as strong as he is now, was initially something more similar to Signus

[fast aspen]

I tink that noxus aint a normal entity i tink it shows up when gods fall and the world starts breaking
it aint pure calamity i tink just something old and empty
maybe its even the primordial mother of the world and everything started from it

Thats my theory

[woeful karma]

it aint pure calamity 🔥 ✍️

[fast aspen]

Yeah

[split mortar]

Noxus predates the existence of gods

Which is more for the primordial mother part ig

[fast aspen]

Btw There is some lore about Murasama ?

[split mortar]

Blatant reference item so not considered canon

[woeful karma]

calamity fans when theres a red sword

[fast aspen]

What about ark of cosmos?

[split mortar]

Item you craft so uh :idk: you made it
Dont think its a reference

[robust osprey]

it's my favorite sword!

I love adamantite sword so much...

[wanton pendant]

Lore:

[robust osprey]

real and true

[plucky juniper]

I think Ark should have lore

Like, more lore than just "I am a heroic sword of justice"

Fun Fact: Murasama used to have Calamity lore

you heard me right

A blade completely inundated with my surroundings during the time of its creation. It was tempered by the fires which are fueled by spirits, and formed in the magma I draw into my laboratories. Its cutting edge, unparalleled, though its reach is limited making general usage questionable. I would consider it my very first foray into work for the sake of craftsmanship and art. If I was born synthetically, any creation which leads one to question whether I was, is a creation I may be proud of. It shows that I can after all, be graced by a muse.
-Page 3 of the old draedon lab entry for the underworld

[heavy zenith]

Ark of the Calamity

[plucky juniper]

im suddenly realizing this is just draedon going so soy over making murasama that it makes him consider it his first artwork

[raven brook]

it did use to have a draedon lab entry yes

then it was shot and killed

[split mortar]

Yeah i know

[plucky juniper]

im just saying, Ark can have more elaboration like that

[wanton pendant]

I mean, it's literally a sword you make.

[plucky juniper]

you say so

[soft flame]

the story of the sword you make yourself is up to you !

[plucky juniper]

yet it requires you to grab an existing sword

and it is IMPLIED that that the Fractured Ark was once used to great effect in the past

im going to assume the Enchanted Sword is just a degraded version of a past, awesome sword

[soft flame]

maybe the ark was made by similar means in the past

[plucky juniper]

although we could say that the ark of the elements and cosmos are upgrades done by you

and the ancients was the original form of the enchanted blade

[soft flame]

makes sense

[fast aspen]

Btw calamitas is human or not?

[zenith geode]

yeah

[soft flame]

she is but as an azafurian she developed grey skin and horns

[plucky juniper]

apparently, Azafurians are just humans

[soft flame]

well

calamitas didn't develop those features herself the azafurian race as a whole did

[plucky juniper]

theres also the part where the Biome Blade becomes eventually integrated into ark so ya

[wanton pendant]

Yes, she just looks like that.

[fast aspen]

Well i have theory

[wanton pendant]

MatPat:

[zenith geode]

all your theories are wrong 🚪

[split mortar]

This aint deltarune i aint trying to argue why a coughing ill old man cant kidnap someone who can benchpress a car

[fast aspen]

My theory is that , the Devourer and Calamitas had doughter Inanis

[plucky juniper]

😭

[zenith geode]

giant ass space worm x human who's 28 years old

[zenith geode]

only an hour?

[soft flame]

enough calcord for today i think

[split mortar]

Who is inanis
Also calamitas is aroace

Also insane statement

[plucky juniper]

yeah it'll do for now :D

[wanton pendant]

And not a worm, dear God what.

[fast aspen]

Inanis is race of gods and they had doughter

[warm gull]

might be cooking actually

[wanton pendant]

The only 'cooking' is you over a campfire.

[warm gull]

wrong

check your mailbox

[zenith geode]

cooking an ash pie maybe

[warm gull]

no guys hear him out

I think he's onto something

[wanton pendant]

At this time of day, in this weather, all the way outside!?

[warm gull]

you're just going against him because he isn't part of The Establishment

god forbid we get some fresh blood in the theory department

[fast aspen]

Yeah

[wanton pendant]

Oh, there'll be fresh blood alright.

[split mortar]

Calamitas was a minor when she worked for yharim

[fast aspen]

What...

[wanton pendant]

12-16.

[soft flame]

preteen age if i remember right