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#lore-discussion
mighty zenith
raven brook
eat it every day
thick slate
ok charlie kirk
dusk laurel
cheese you are a horrible fog
mighty zenith
wha
raven brook
horror
thorn drift
but ngl what did anahita do
thorn drift
she was chilling
thick slate
bitch
mighty zenith
youre babies
thick slate
my babies
mighty zenith
raven brook
but ngl what did anahita do
shes a siren
she lures people with song and eats them
shes trying to eat you
thick slate
i want a to own a swarm of angry wasps
mighty zenith
ok but she just wants to start a career
thorn drift
shes a siren
okay but we, the terrarian, chads that we are, arent even affected, so why bother
raven brook
she kills people
thick slate
why does hornet covered in moss be stronger
raven brook
moss armor
thorn drift
why does hornet covered in moss be stronger
its magic moss
raven brook
trust
thorn drift
kris approved
raven brook
thatd be wacky bc like hornets r the evil giant wasps
its like
oh we made the new
enemy
thick slate
trye
raven brook
the walrus
mighty zenith
mornet
thorn drift
why didnt they just make it a wasp
did you ever see a wasp shoot you with its stinger irl? Thought so
dusk laurel
pokemon evolution
mighty zenith
mossnet
dusk laurel
bee -> wasp -> hornet
thick slate
did you ever see a wasp shoot you with its stinger irl? Thought so
shits crazy in australia
yellow jackets aint no joke
raven brook
ive been stung by a paper wasp before
raven brook
only time i can remember ive been stung by a bug that wasnt like a little shitling mosquito
zenith geode
did you ever see a wasp shoot you with its stinger irl? Thought so
i feel like this is something some specialised species can actually do
zenith geode
i know bees break off their stingers if you don't give them time to wiggle out
thick slate
dude bees stinging you is crazy
simple tangle
Hi
thick slate
they sting you and their stinger and digestive tract comes out
they just disembowel themself for that
stupid ass defense mechanism
simple tangle
Why is taylor unacceptable
thick slate
yea good job buddy you gave ur target a small bump
thick slate
Why is taylor unacceptable
why not
simple tangle
Why tho
thorn drift
yea good job buddy you gave ur target a small bump
well have you ever tried stabbing a titan with a sword?
Because that's basically what they're doing
thorn drift
thats literally whats happening though
thorn drift
except you are the titan, and the bees are the buttsword wielding tiny guys
simple tangle
Im p sure pulling out the sword doesnt kill u
thorn drift
what if the titan has a sword
well you fucking die
thick slate
except you are the titan, and the bees are the buttsword wielding tiny guys
are you calling me fat
thorn drift
are you calling me fat
no
thorn drift
Im p sure pulling out the sword doesnt kill u
i mean if its lodged really deep and you pull so hard you rip your arms out it would
light linden
Im p sure pulling out the sword doesnt kill u
removing the thing that stabbed someone makes the wound dramatically more lethal
dusk laurel
blood loss
light linden
since it can cause further damage, makes you bleed much faster, and increases your chance of infection
thick slate
removing the thing that stabbed someone makes the wound dramatically more lethal
for the person
thorn drift
removing the thing that stabbed someone makes the wound dramatically more lethal
no what they're saying it if you pull a sword out of someone the action of pulling the sword usually doesn't kill you
thorn drift
now, if the titan is allergic to swords, however, then you could do some damage
otherwise, not so much
simple tangle
???
rose star
If draedon were to oppose yharim, how much trouble would he give him? And does he have a chance to win? Differentional diagnoses go
haughty seal
If draedon were to oppose yharim, how much trouble would he give him? And does h...
Exo mechs would probably lose but put up a good fight
split mortar
If draedon were to oppose yharim, how much trouble would he give him? And does h...
Yharim is stronger then anything draedon has but yharim is not punching the super internet to death
Yharim wins battle but loses the war
raven brook
If Draedon actively wanted to kill Yharim it'd be a matter of time until he did
That is, if Yharim dosne't die first, anyways
hushed jasper
Hi lore people
raven brook
hi Vortex Calamity
thick slate
vortecks
split mortar
Siffrin plush
hushed jasper
How yall doin
split mortar
I have the siffrin plush so
good
hushed jasper
Peak
brazen sorrel
Hi chat, how exo prisms are related to silva?
I noticed exo weapons are made of wood partially, and this is because of silva supposedly, but how exactly silva is related to exo matter?
night barn
i don't think she is
dusk laurel
miracle matter is not related to silva and the inclusion of the root/wood-like material doesnt really have a reason but the new version of miracle matter is designed to have its wood-like material be an altered version of the wood-like material from the elemental weapons
for example here is the superradiant slaughterer and its future miracle matter upgrade (replacing magnomaly cannon)
so the design of miracle matter is now a combination of the mutated elemental wood, depleted exo prisms, and red energy exhaust
brazen sorrel
Ahh
dusk laurel
so the design of miracle matter is now a combination of the mutated elemental wo...
rather than the current version thats a mix of various mainly blue and green crystals, some strange pink root thing, an unexplainable gray metal, and fire
brazen sorrel
But what is that elemental wood?
dusk laurel
i dont know if theres a reason why the elemental weapons are made of mainly an alien wood thing
brazen sorrel
Anyway, exo prisms themselfs, are made of sea prisms and what materials according to lore?
dusk laurel
its just an altered sea prism i believe
split mortar
Anyway, exo prisms themselfs, are made of sea prisms and what materials accordin...
Exo prisms are just super enhanced sea prisms, draedon mentions how they are made in draetalk
brazen sorrel
But what specifically could turn sea prisms into exo prisms? Where is that exo energy coming from
eager bluff
oh simple
split mortar
But what specifically could turn sea prisms into exo prisms? Where is that exo e...
Exo and sea prisms main thing is making energy without cost, they do so via exotic resonance
night barn
i mean it does say you give them an "initial energy impulse"
you etch it and run electricity through it
it's just a semiconductor
brazen sorrel
Oh, so that's how exo prisms are made...
Anyway, i wonder what is aerialite, it is supposed to be post moonlord material?
eager bluff
it's just a semiconductor
no
i dont think semiconductors break the laws of thermodynamics
night barn
but it's pretty much a semiconductor
split mortar
Anyway, i wonder what is aerialite, it is supposed to be post moonlord material?
No its a pre hardmode metal??
Its some dragon metal like auric but not anywhere near as absurd, vetrasyl related i imagine since its in chrysadia places and has storm powers
split mortar
but it's pretty much a semiconductor
Its also a absurdly good power source
Like its what powers the exo mechs
Which surpass all gods
eager bluff
except the big guy
split mortar
The sun god is not known to draedon
eager bluff
exo prisms have enough energy production to physically melt the insides of exos when in an overdrive state
like
they are not semiconductors
brazen sorrel
No its a pre hardmode metal??
Its some dragon metal like auric but not anywhere ...
It is prehardmode, but someone said it is going to change to post moonlord
split mortar
It is prehardmode, but someone said it is going to change to post moonlord
No thats just the evil 2 bosses
brazen sorrel
No thats just the evil 2 bosses
Ahh, true
night barn
i mean they are semiconductors just they produce energy somehow
split mortar
Dragonfolly will be moved to pre hardmode and activate aerialite in their place
brazen sorrel
I wonder, what will happen to dragonfolly weapons and accs...
night barn
exo prisms have enough energy production to physically melt the insides of exos ...
tbf modern hardware does this all the time anyway
they're not producing their own energy but they all use enough of it that they can melt stuff
split mortar
I wonder, what will happen to dragonfolly weapons and accs...
Some weapons functionality will probably get put on weapons on the same tier (early post ml) if the devs particularly like it
night barn
the exos are surely running insanely hot
draedon should've made them blow hot air at you
split mortar
Thanatos does that
night barn
true
split mortar
The others draedon just has busted cooling systems ig
brazen sorrel
I wonder, evil 2 bosses will have overpowered loot in future?
split mortar
I wonder, evil 2 bosses will have overpowered loot in future?
Their loot will be post ml tier because they would be post ml tier bosses
I doubt the devs would actively make them drop gear extremely strong for their tier
light linden
I do wonder
@cosmic zenith got another question
does the amount of energy in the impulse used to kickstart an exo prism affect anything?
cosmic zenith
I would wager no
light linden
hmm
that's both a slight let down and makes sense
I specifically wondering if you could make exo prisms of different strengths
brazen sorrel
Imagine having to manually make exo prisms after defeating exo mechs and unlocking exo technology, instead of getting exo prisms from them... Would that be lore accurate?
feral skiff
Imagine having to manually make exo prisms after defeating exo mechs and unlocki...
i’d wager that you could do that with the funny exo forge
brazen sorrel
i’d wager that you could do that with the funny exo forge
Btw, using draedon's forge will make sense...
split mortar
Imagine having to manually make exo prisms after defeating exo mechs and unlocki...
With the draedon forge yeah
Idk anything else that could make an exo prism
long bloom
lunatic cultist is the leader of the dragon cult who worship dragons (shockingly) and he's trying to revive one
the cult is also responsible for keeping moon lord sealed
slender cloud
lunatic cultist is the leader of the dragon cult who worship dragons (shockingly...
dragon god
🤑
long bloom
dragon god
that's an oxymoron
slender cloud
do dragons have something to do with the moon?
long bloom
a dragon cannot be a god
long bloom
do dragons have something to do with the moon?
not in general no
maybe the dragon of the night does idk
long bloom
because he's insane
slender cloud
fair enough
long bloom
also he invented stratus or something
slender cloud
also he invented stratus or something
so much only for him to get slimed by the terrarian after a second
😔
long bloom
i decree it an issue of skill
split mortar
he's still called lunatic cultist
Guys insane and upkeeps the stuff keeping the lunar titan on the moon
dusk laurel
if you squint your eyes enough phantasmal dragon is actually a stratus prototype thingyamob trust me on this its because theyre similar shades of blue and also its called phantasmal which clearly adds a connections to ghosts and polterghast like strstus being made with ruinous souls im not going crazy you gotta trust me
long bloom
split mortar
if you squint your eyes enough phantasmal dragon is actually a stratus prototype...
True
How would stratus taste
Could i turn it into a grilled cheese
long bloom
:melongun:
young socket
How would stratus taste
Could i turn it into a grilled cheese
ofc youd be the one to ask
dusk laurel
split mortar
:melongun:
Why do you say this
split mortar
ofc youd be the one to ask
Why do you say this
split mortar
<:melongun:1454968578053902496>
Why do you say this
long bloom
stratus would taste like ash and chlorox
young socket
Why do you say this
wdym why
long bloom
Why do you say this
melongun moment
lucid niche
How would stratus taste
Could i turn it into a grilled cheese
I’d assume it tastes like hair gel but with more of a whipped cream texture
You can turn anything into a grilled cheese, you just might not survive after eating it
thorn drift
Why do you say this
chat i think they're trapped in a timeloop
they keep repeating the same question
split mortar
chat i think they're trapped in a timeloop
Ok odile
thorn drift
-# crab they found out gotta go
pulsar ocean
if sans undertale fought yhar would he get instantly discombobulated by the karma
cosmic zenith
he's still called lunatic cultist
He's lunatic because being tasked with guarding the lunar seal containing a monster that almost destroyed the world tends to not have a positive effect on mental health and may involve being thoroughly obsessed with the moon, which is the monster's prison
reef wigeon
Which boss summoners are considered canon?
split mortar
Queen bee larva
Eoc jumping you
Kingslime jumping you
Wof voodoo doll
Mechs jumping you
Plantera bulb
Skeletron curse
Golem alter
Anahita enemy?
Killing cultists for LC
Killing pillars for ML
Killing enemies in dungeon angering polter
Acid rain event for old duke
Evil 1 angery from orbs broken
Duke fished up
Eol prismatic lace killed
That it afaik
dusk laurel
exos too
young socket
u forgot profaned core
dusk laurel
long scaffold
Does Venerated Locked have any lore significance?
long scaffold
That makes sense
The locket just seemed to have an air of importance but I guess the bandit just made it all up
young socket
stole the scales during ur fight with yharon clearly
long bloom
yharon doesn't have scales he has feathers
young socket
ur not looking hard enough
reef wigeon
yharon doesn't have scales he has feathers <:clueless:1064298508653432933>
Feathers are highly evolved scales
raven brook
i mean that is true
dusk laurel
cheese appearance
plucky juniper
Feathers are highly evolved scales <:clueless:1064298508653432933>
fun fact: birds have scales too
EXCEPT
GET THIS
They're actually feathers. As in, feathers, highly evolved scales btw, turned into scales
scaleception
strong quail
Will they help with my scaleiosis
dusk laurel
But what is that elemental wood?
im so sorry i might be stupid i forgot that the elemental weapons usually are upgrades to the terra weapons which are getting redesigned to probably look more like natural plant weapons which would explain how the elemental weapons have an alien wood looking component
hoary cape
fun fact: birds have scales too
EXCEPT
GET THIS
They're actually feathers. A...
I mean birds have scales on their legs
They are a branch of reptilian creatures
barren dirge
could you guys tell me just what parts of the lore were changed after fabsol
young socket
nothing fabsol didnt touch the lore whatsoever
plucky juniper
I mean birds have scales on their legs
iirc no they're literally just feathers
like
its fucking absurd
barren dirge
nothing fabsol didnt touch the lore whatsoever
didnt they completely overhaul the lore after him
plucky juniper
scales turning into feathers only to turn into scales for th elegs
manic coral
no
plucky juniper
wtf
young socket
didnt they completely overhaul the lore after him
no
manic coral
that was 3 years ago
plucky juniper
didnt they completely overhaul the lore after him
no that happened post 22
barren dirge
no that happened post 22
tf is 22
manic coral
that was 3 years ago
no lore overhauling has been done since
dusk laurel
nothing fabsol didnt touch the lore whatsoever
i mean old duke not being a fishron anymore and the strength of the evil2s and dragonfolly changes happened because he left
long bloom
22 is an event that happened in 2022
barren dirge
just what exacly was changed after 2022 because i apparently lost the plot at some point
dusk laurel
22 was an event in 2022 where 22 developers left the dev team, including the old writers
long bloom
22 is an event that happened in 2022
when 22 devs left
long bloom
just what exacly was changed after 2022 because i apparently lost the plot at so...
literally fucking everything
manic coral
it was 21 actually
barren dirge
damn
long bloom
shhhhhhhh
young socket
the singular inactive dev that just didnt speak and everyone thought they left for some time:
manic coral
becuase it was 2022 and 22 is a meme number in this community
long bloom
you should read it
manic coral
the name "22" stuck
barren dirge
you should read it
maybe later
plucky juniper
it was... an incident
barren dirge
i want your opinions on which lore was better
plucky juniper
New lore, like seriously
long bloom
i want your opinions on which lore was better
new
plucky juniper
its just much better written
long bloom
no comparison
i used to think old was better
then i read new lore and realized i was an idiot
long bloom
how so
manic coral
speaking of speaking hi though its been a while since i've talked here properly i have been Going Through It™
manic coral
decided to get back to writing recently though
long bloom
speaking of speaking hi though its been a while since i've talked here properly ...
hope ur doing ok now
barren dirge
thank you for all of your opinions
manic coral
yeah im doing better
young socket
speaking of speaking hi though its been a while since i've talked here properly ...
didnt you speak here like yesterday or am i going insane
dusk laurel
yeah im doing better
thats good!!
manic coral
~~didnt you speak here like yesterday or am i going insane~~
maybe a comment here and there recently but not much
actual discussion
manic coral
however after stepping away from stuff for a while i am now back at it
plucky juniper
cool to hear
stray crystal
whats the diffrence between the lores?
long bloom
whats the diffrence between the lores?
new lore completely replaced old lore in early 2023
almost everything was retconned
long bloom
can i have an example of something that was retconned?
providence being the sun goddess
now she's the goddess of ash
and xeroc is the sun god technically
stray crystal
i see.
long bloom
entire story was rebuilt from the ground up
just with the same character names
and a shit ton of new ones
also daedalus was banished to the eel pit
stray crystal
what
gritty kraken
he no longer exists
Gaster
long bloom
what was his deal?
built and exploded a supercomputer, which created the tundra for some reason
neat tinsel
built and exploded a supercomputer, which created the tundra for some reason
old calamity lore was really just making shit up as they went huh
long bloom
🙂↕️
neat tinsel
cant have a tundra just be
a tundra?
long bloom
(it's artificial in new lore as well)
raven brook
It's particially artifical iirc? Permafrost made it Colder but it already existed prior
long bloom
ice claspers reportedly played a key role in its creation
which doesn't sound very normal to me
stray crystal
It's particially artifical iirc? Permafrost made it Colder but it already existe...
right next to the 3rd deseart with a weird bit of forest between it like 9 times out of ten
raven brook
"Though their exact origins are an enigma, what is known is that these ethereal beings seek to stamp out any and all sources of warmth that exist in their home. Due to this fact, and taking into account the fossil record, many speculate that ice claspers may have played a vital role in the tundra's creation."
Not explicitly confirmed, and also they aren't necessarily artifical
Could be "natural" magic beings
long bloom
animals don't generally create biomes irl
bleak trench
what would goozma taste like
raven brook
Well yeah i'm not saying it's an animal
long bloom
what would goozma taste like
bad
raven brook
It's clearly some sort of magic being
It just dosen't have to be something artificial
Magic exists
Like Elementals aren't artificial and they do wacky shit
long bloom
artificial means it didn't come into being naturally
through like plate tectonics and the weather and such
something put it there
raven brook
Yeah, i'm aware, it could be a natural magic being
Again, e lementals
They're entirely magic beings that weren't really created by anything
Because magic's a natural part of the world
stray crystal
reading the calamity lore doc.
raven brook
Nothing's explicitly saying it has to be either artifical or natural, so both possibilities are equally as valid
long bloom
ig
stray crystal
reading the calamity lore doc.
this feels like a history textbook from a fantastical otherworld.
raven brook
thanks we wrote it
long bloom
stray crystal
i didnt give much of a thought to how my terrarian fits into The Lore (Trademark)
but honestly im trying to think up something now.
agile matrix
animals don't generally create biomes irl
birds:
raven brook
yknow my first example would be like corals
long bloom
but honestly im trying to think up something now.
the terrarian's lore is up to YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
long bloom
nice
strong quail
My Terrarian lore is "I want to play the game goddammit"
long bloom
wrong. thesis due friday
strong quail
:(
raven brook
my terrarian lore is that theyre having fun :)
stray crystal
so im trying to come up with something
uhh shes a special race of bunny person imbued with the mystical ability to come back after death by the goddess she once worshiped, a goddess of fertility.
long bloom
interesting
stray crystal
i just made that up.
and i guess yharim killed that goddess, thus causing her to wish for revenge?
yeah ive got ideas now.
stray crystal
uhh shes a special race of bunny person imbued with the mystical ability to come...
lemme get a picture of her.
i need to give her something more magical-looking...
stray crystal
and i guess yharim killed that goddess, thus causing her to wish for revenge?
and then she learns of the sins of the gods and... something
i havent come up with anything just yet.
stray crystal
i mean they did kill all those dragons.
raven brook
Some of the dragons deserved it, and not all gods killed dragons
And of course, just the general nuance that a situation like that could have needs to taken into consideration
stray crystal
fair enough.
raven brook
Don't trust most things yharim say when it comes to dragons or gods because he's john All Dragons Good and All Goods Bad when in reality it's more like
Regardless of one's species, they're capable of both good or bad
stray crystal
fair enough i suppose.
long bloom
stray crystal
but it is kinda flat to have jane My Goddess Was Always Good And Never Did Anything Wrong, And Then Yahrim Killed Her For No Reason.
long bloom
yharim kills gods because they're gods
not based on their morality
he's killed several gods that actually never did anything wrong
stray crystal
i see.
long bloom
to him, simply existing as a god is a crime only punishable by death
stray crystal
you think yahrim would be an anchient rome guy if he was real.
or would he consider them degenerate becuase they worshiped gods.
long bloom
god in calamity has an extremely specific definition
it's someone who absorbed an auric soul
that's the only way to become a god
light linden
genuine question
stray crystal
so the slime god isnt a real god?
light linden
do y'all think yharim would be willing to oppose alduin from skyrim?
stray crystal
oh so you just. kill a god in prehardmode.
light linden
nope
long bloom
do y'all think yharim would be willing to oppose alduin from skyrim?
never played so idk
light linden
he runs
stray crystal
do y'all think yharim would be willing to oppose alduin from skyrim?
dragons good.
light linden
minor lore rewrite will happen if he gets retiered though
long bloom
qs will just be a regular rogue paladin
raven brook
that one big shoe lol gif but its big slime lol
new qs lore for you
as it should be dont give queen slime any significant lore relevance god please thanks amen
light linden
do y'all think yharim would be willing to oppose alduin from skyrim?
I feel like he would be solely because of alduin wanting to destroy everything
I do think yharim would like paarthunax though
raven brook
her being a rogue paladin works thanjs no more
yharim would ignore the comically evil dragon in the room because acnowledging it means he has to confront the possibility of his ideals being wrong so he just pretends its not there and waits for that to take care of itself
stray crystal
as it should be dont give queen slime any significant lore relevance god please ...
calamity lore rewrite happens and all that changes is that queen slime is now the gal who encoraged yarhim to reject his destiny.
raven brook
and you kill her in early hardmode
truly peak writing 🔥
also she has a fart sound effect on death
cinema
stray crystal
"hey kid destinys for suckers! now to go be an early prehardmode boss."
light linden
yharim would ignore the comically evil dragon in the room because acnowledging i...
I highly doubt it
also alduin would absolutely try to kill yharim first
raven brook
I highly doubt it
Looks at suspiciously old duke shaped evil dragon yharim ignores the existence of
light linden
old duke isn't trying to kill literally everything though
old duke is just a spiteful idiot
stray crystal
elder scrolls.
light linden
skyrim?
basically
pseudo immortal dragon who is a tyrant comes back after being banished from time
he proceeds to try to commit omnicide
raven brook
if he absolutely had to kill it then he'd probably find a way to rationalize it or atleast try his damn hardest to so that he dosent completely break under the weight of his shattered ideology
like
ohh that wasnt actually a real dragon
just. a mockery. of the true auric dragons
yep
light linden
he proceeds to try to commit omnicide
and even ruins the afterlife
raven brook
which i feel like is what he might do for old duke ot some extent anyways
light linden
I think paarthunax could convince him
raven brook
calling it a faker and a mockery of true resplendor
light linden
paarthunax is a uh
raven brook
youre not changing his mind
raven brook
zeratros himself could directly go to yharim and tell "dude youre fucked up in the head youre evil" and i think that still wouldnt work
😭
light linden
and stresses that alduin, while his brother, is a threat to everyone and everything
raven brook
oh wait just
light linden
including other dragons
raven brook
convincing him to kill alduin
ok yeah no that can work yeah
Again i just think he'd try his damn hardest to rationalize it
light linden
alduin is basically
raven brook
If he had to do it
light linden
omnicidal yharon
he forces dragons to come back from death and near enslaves them under him
stray crystal
"if i tell you that hes a fake and a lier of true auric dragons, will you kill him"
light linden
he forces dragons to come back from death and near enslaves them under him
all the while actively terrorizing the afterlife
stray crystal
does cal have a reason the guide voodoo doll summons the wall of flesh.
agile matrix
he forces dragons to come back from death and near enslaves them under him
if old duke gained an auric soul Today Right Now from Yharon
light linden
no old duke wouldn't be half as bad
alduin nearly succeeded and alduin is genuinely a monster
now a thing I'm especially curious about
agile matrix
old duke woulda Loved enslaving Dragons
light linden
y'all think yharim would go crazy over the thu'um?
stray crystal
what is the Lore, TM of old duke
light linden
since it's dragon language that is also magic
agile matrix
what is the Lore, TM of old duke
born maybe weeks before the last auric soul was claimed
after8
raven brook
old duke wouldn't seek omnicide as much as he'd seek like
agile matrix
is now Very grumpy about it
raven brook
being evil tyrannical dictator
old duke's about feeling in power
feeling like he's the Big Man
agile matrix
i dont want to throw around the german
stray crystal
im just gonna say something and tell me if im wrong
raven brook
getting the privilege and power he didn't have when he was born cuz no auric soul
agile matrix
but would he be That german or would he just be a Dictator
raven brook
look if there were auric dragons around he'd definitely kill then
however its
its just fucking yharon so
stray crystal
old duke believes one thing and that is that old duke should have all the power and pristiage.
raven brook
i think more like just average dictatro
agile matrix
nothing Toooo incredible just Autocracy(?)
raven brook
old duke believes one thing and that is that old duke should have all the power ...
Old Duke is a Dragon that was born just short of an auric soul, since he was born JUST after all of them ran out
stray crystal
old duke believes one thing and that is that old duke should have all the power ...
am i wrong? becuase thats the vibe i get
raven brook
Because of that he was left as an outast, lacked the power of his kin, and was also seemingly discriminated against by aqtleast some of the dragons?
stray crystal
Old Duke is a Dragon that was born just short of an auric soul, since he was bo...
right becuase dragons also dont naturally have auric souls right
raven brook
Which leads to him turning into who he is now who is incredibly selfish bastard whose priorities are
- Hating Auric Dragons
- Proving himself to be better tahn everyone else and feeling like hes better than everyone else
- Hating Auric Dragons
raven brook
pretty much
agile matrix
his tertiary and all other -ary goals is to be Racist
raven brook
whats up with old dragons that live around the abyss and being racist
agile matrix
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISOYR!!!!!
MLK
VS
OLD DUKE
raven brook
and they gained them by absorbing the soul of terraria itself?
World Soul Shards yeah
They were given out to the dragons, making their souls into Auric Souls
latent flower
sup guys
raven brook
but then they ran outta world soul shards eventually so all subsequent dragons were just Normal Non Auric Dragons
like Old Duke or Primordial Wyrm
latent flower
lore discussers
agile matrix
wait jared is racist??
raven brook
as the lineages of dragons grew more and more distant from the og auric dragons they regressed furtther and further into being just like. animals
raven brook
wait jared is racist??
racist towards xeroc specifically
stray crystal
as the lineages of dragons grew more and more distant from the og auric dragons ...
cool looking animals.
latent flower
why dont yharim and jared join forces
agile matrix
Conceptist moreso
raven brook
it's racist towards a single dude if you want to believe hard enough
dont let your dreams be dreams
stray crystal
oh thats not racist
rreminds me of how pm fans will call nagul und hammer racist when the term is ablist
agile matrix
the cannibal?????????
raven brook
as the lineages of dragons grew more and more distant from the og auric dragons ...
The first few non-auric dragons as seen with old duke and jared are pretty much fully sapient
but then you go later down the line with like
fishrons. basilisks.
and yeah theyre kinda just feral animals
latent flower
is old duke not a fishron
agile matrix
is the Blood Eel a dragon
latent flower
oh
raven brook
They're taking away the fabsol influence from him
latent flower
he reaaallyy needs a resprite
agile matrix
is old duke not a fishron
im half sure we named old duke old duke in the way we named Miracle Matter Miracle Matter (as of current
latent flower
and a rework
raven brook
dragon of theseus
latent flower
and a re everything
stray crystal
why is it called mirical matter?
latent flower
its miraculous matter
agile matrix
We're Really Really Really Bad At Naming Things
raven brook
it's matter..... that's miraculous..... 🔥 ✍️
agile matrix
like Infamously So
stray crystal
it's matter..... that's miraculous..... 🔥 ✍️
peak cinima.
raven brook
rreminds me of how pm fans will call nagul und hammer racist when the term is ab...
Also tbf idk if i'd say that because there's plenty of prosthethic users in the citiy who don't do it due to any sort of disability but just bc they want to or need to become stronger
stray crystal
i remember hearing somewhere that dreadeon canonicly thinks its a shit name. is that still canon.
raven brook
it'sw not really racism technically cuz prosthethic users aren't a race but idk if i'd call it ableism either, atleast not exclusively
latent flower
which means it is can on.
raven brook
yeah its still canon
latent flower
meow
stray crystal
Also tbf idk if i'd say that because there's plenty of prosthethic users in the ...
fair enough.
raven brook
personally i think SKeletron Prime is awesome and badass and that he's a nerd stinky
agile matrix
Skeletron Prime is actually called HF-[Numbers that i Cannot Be Bothered]
light linden
also random thought
raven brook
yeha you'de call igt some nerd shit like HM-01 "Fright" or something. NOTHING compared to my awesome name Skeletron Prime
agile matrix
the twins are Sl and Sr i think
latent flower
why hf
agile matrix
yeha you'de call igt some nerd shit like HM-01 "Fright" or something. NOTHING co...
hallowed Might named Fright
raven brook
hallowed Might named Fright
I was doing HM as in Hallowed Machine
light linden
I still wonder if auric ore was essentially world soul shards that didn't find a dragon to inhabit
raven brook
They seem much more tied to dragons directly
agile matrix
its "Draconic Essence" Whatever the Fuck that means
raven brook
Czu they spawn after u kill yharon and arent they said to specifically
yeah
so i dont think thats hte case
stray crystal
its "Draconic Essence" *Whatever the Fuck that means*
what is essence? id ont know and neither does toby fox. - andrew cunningham
latent flower
essence of dragon sounds like itd be put in a perfume
raven brook
Also that'd have some p heavy implicat ions since we know for a fact that the yran out of world soul shards at some point
rue
ti does
latent flower
infused with luxurious essence of dragon and playful hints of 100 years of genocide
raven brook
playful 😊
latent flower
ill put you in an alcohol solution and spritz you on my wrists
stray crystal
Also tbf idk if i'd say that because there's plenty of prosthethic users in the ...
also someone who gets what im talking about fuck yeah.
latent flower
100 years of genocide is nothing but play to a gal like me
a glimpse into my tyrannical and evil reality
raven brook
also someone who gets what im talking about fuck yeah.
girl look at my pfp
raven brook
its my sona and its a shameless fusion of calamitas and yuri limbus company
raven brook
Yeah
light linden
its my sona and its a shameless fusion of calamitas and yuri limbus company
tbf doesn't a dev compare you to calamitas?
raven brook
yes my oomfie bestie cei has compared me to calamitas
latent flower
is she ur oomfie bestie cause she says ur calamitas
raven brook
no shes just my oomfie bestie
raven brook
i joked about how calamitas dialogue sounds exactly like the typa stuff id say
stray crystal
girl look at my pfp
i think canto 9 was a little sloppyw ith the twist but it was generally pretty good.
latent flower
or does she say ur calamitas because she's ur oomfie bestie
an interesting conundrum
raven brook
and she was like yeah ur right
stray crystal
shame that lucio died though he was my faverote.
raven brook
and then later on said honestly its probably intentional at this point
latent flower
damn SPOILERS!!
raven brook
thus the birht of cheese calamitas
and also the fact i'm also really good at writing calamitas apparently that's crazxy
latent flower
and also the fact i'm also really good at writing calamitas apparently that's cr...
i bet u are
bro can just right an autobiography
WRITE
AAHH
this is why i cant be a writer
its because im a little stupid.
raven brook
how is roy development going?
Does this mean anything
I havent been able to do much because i cant code for it since my pc is exploding but uhh going well otherwise id say
strong quail
😨
latent flower
is buge specifically a huge bug
zenith geode
is it in a bed............
scenic olive
chillamitas
split mortar
Its buge
reef wigeon
uhh shes a special race of bunny person imbued with the mystical ability to come...
Ooooh, interesting
Speaking of which... could my Terrarian be a god or related to one?
split mortar
Theoretically tho yharim would then not talk to you
If you were to write it for a story
stray crystal
uhh shes a special race of bunny person imbued with the mystical ability to come...
to be clear not all bunny people can do that just her.
shes the last of her kind
or maybe not.
maybe thats too edgy.
reef wigeon
If you were to write it for a story
Yeah, that's my intention
mighty zenith
the beauty of fanfics is you can change things around to fit your idea
reef wigeon
Well, I think the only relevant difference is that... Yharim doesn't send Item lore
agile matrix
Well, I think the only relevant difference is that... Yharim doesn't send Item l...
specify? he does infact give the Lore Items
mighty zenith
they mean for their fanfic
agile matrix
oooo
scenic olive
Speaking of which... could my Terrarian be a god or related to one?
wheres that image when we need it
reef wigeon
they mean for their fanfic
It's not exactly a fanfic
I'm thinking of using it for a roleplay, maybe
scenic olive
young socket
IT’S OUT???
split mortar
I'm thinking of using it for a roleplay, maybe
Another cal rp for this chat to know of
mossy ibex
Very spooky
wanton pendant
Speaking of which... could my Terrarian be a god or related to one?
Terrarian being a god would contradict the plot, so no.
split mortar
Terrarian being a god would contradict the plot, so no.
Idk why but feels like i havent seen you in a good bit hows it been waterwraith
split mortar
Terrarian being a god would contradict the plot, so no.
Its for a rp or fanfic
wanton pendant
Its for a rp or fanfic
Roleplay? Who would ever want to roleplay the Terraria Calamity Mod™?
split mortar
True
wanton pendant
Idk why but feels like i havent seen you in a good bit hows it been waterwraith
EU5.
split mortar
🔥?
wanton pendant
No, my computer has not combusted... Yet. I give it a week.
split mortar
Lol
languid minnow
Wait the whole lore was retconned?
split mortar
Wait the whole lore was retconned?
Yeah back in 2022 its been getting remade from the ground up
reef wigeon
Roleplay? Who would ever want to roleplay the Terraria Calamity Mod™?
My Friend and I™
split mortar
My Friend and I™
Water is saying that because theres a cal rp a few people here and some who arent are in
As like a ironic joke i think
reef wigeon
Oh, I see
Well, I had read earlier in this chat that Xeroc was a Chill Guy™
(I feel like ™ is overused)
split mortar
maybe it is™
split mortar
Well, I had read earlier in this chat that Xeroc was a Chill Guy™
Yeah seems so with what info we have and what we have seen of the guy
reef wigeon
I read the first dialogues from Bossrush and... He seems too casual for an Almighty God™
long bloom
calamity gods are effectively just regular people with superpowers
and probably immortality
reef wigeon
Yes, but
I was talking about his way of speaking compared to characters like Yharim
split mortar
I read the first dialogues from Bossrush and... He seems too casual for an Almig...
Theres a reason some people here put xeroc on the dream blunt rotation
-# also xeroc aint almighty just really really strong
reef wigeon
I exaggerated it on purpose
reef wigeon
Theres a reason some people here put xeroc on the dream blunt rotation
Honestly... I don't know what you mean by that. You know, I'm not a native English speaker.
split mortar
Honestly... I don't know what you mean by that. You know, I'm not a native Engli...
Some people wanna do weed with xeroc
wanton pendant
Xeroc isn't almighty, but they're far beyond anything else.
raven brook
hes got that distortion zaza
cosmic zenith
I don't know Paarthunax
light linden
he's a literal dragon monk
he's largely peaceful and leads a pseudo religious pseudo magical teaching movement
thick slate
Some people wanna do weed with xeroc
weed
reef wigeon
Some people wanna do weed with xeroc
Lol?
cosmic zenith
he's largely peaceful and leads a pseudo religious pseudo magical teaching movem...
Maybe
Depends heavily on context
light linden
what do you think would make yharim not like him?
cosmic zenith
Traits of his faction, traits of the other factions (neither of which I know), misplaced pacifism (I don't know if it's the case), his attitude towards his movement
light linden
Traits of his faction, traits of the other factions (neither of which I know), m...
he is pacifist but it does have a reason
dragons in the elder scrolls are naturally drawn to destruction and enslaving other species
paarthunax managed to avoid that
his attitude towards his movement is that he believes it is a way forward for his race without destroying everything or being enslaved by alduin (strongest dragon)
it's worth mentioning though
paarthunax was a monster before becoming a monk
his name literally means 'Ambition Overlord Cruelty' and he's noted to have commited several atrocities as Alduin's lieutenant before turning on him
brazen sorrel
What are terra things in calamity/maybe even vanilla terraria lore
Why are they terra
long bloom
for the aura
split mortar
Terra is latin for earth or some other ground word
In calamity atleast theyre just magical weapons that use life magic that you made i think
For vanilla the terra blade is a weapon forged by the balance of evil (nights edge) and good (excalibur) iirc, dont think we know whats up with the broken hero sword stuff but it may be a fixed version of a old heros weapon???
wanton pendant
his attitude towards his movement is that he believes it is a way forward for hi...
Alduin is a bit more than 'strongest dragon' to my knowledge.
light linden
Alduin is a bit more than 'strongest dragon' to my knowledge.
it's the best way to describe it
also it is what he is
plucky lichen
I have a question because I forgor
split mortar
Yo
young socket
hey
plucky lichen
Did dog provoke us and started attacking us or did we do that
Like with aquatic scourge
young socket
dog is the one that attacks first
plucky lichen
Ok awesome sauce
split mortar
Its dog i dont think that thing knows peace
plucky lichen
Why does he do that, are we too powerful or is he just haughty and wanted to fight someone cool
wanton pendant
He thinks you'd make a good snack, clearly.
plucky lichen
Tasty looking
split mortar
DoG is quite egotistical and yeah prob just wanted to aura farm on someone supposedly weaker
And then gets beaten
wanton pendant
And then you eat him!
Add DoG burger in next update!
plucky lichen
I lowkey wanna make a list as to why we fight each boss or why they fight us
Should do that
Would make my life writing for terrarian
So much easier and awesome
raven brook
desert scourge wants to eat you
duke fishron wants to eat you
eater of worlds is evil and wants to eat you
split mortar
Anahita is racist to groudon
plucky lichen
desert scourge wants to eat you
Ok well yes
raven brook
golem does NOT want to eat you
plucky lichen
I’ve asked about slime gods deal but got told it was super secret fbi files
Why is bro attacking me 💔
raven brook
yeah we have fuckin nothing in why slime god randomly attacks you
The general idea is
It's because you killed his little blight slimes, i guess?
Which frankly dosen't really help him beat the dumbass asshole allegations but it's something
split mortar
Why this genderfluid orb fighting me
plucky lichen
I killed her little goons and he’s mad stupid ball
I will draw slime god as a magical girl soon
Tell me why this goop is out to get me
split mortar
Sg human form been compared to venti genshin iirc
dusk laurel
insert really early pre ascension sg sketch by stip here:
raven brook
King Slime - Wants to Eat You
EoC - Evil Monster made of Evil Essence
Desert Scourge - Wants to Eat You and/or possibly also protecting its offspring based on potential SSO Changes?
EoW/BoC - Evil Monster made of Evil Essence
Dragonfolly - Wants to Eat You
Queen Bee - Protecting offspring
Skeletron - Evil Monster made of Evil Curse
WoF - Protecting itself for it is a Mindless Wall whose only real goal is to contain essence and if it Dies it's gonna release said essence
Did i miss any
oh right crabulon
dusk laurel
plucky lichen
Wants to eat you
dusk laurel
@plucky lichen
raven brook
Crabulon - idk lol its a fungus
raven brook
but yeah you really dont have that much complex motivations for pre hm bosses given theyre basically universally either random powerful animals or random powerful evil goons
😭
worldly spindle
Why did you list dragonfolly
plucky lichen
Slime god the only one standing out here
raven brook
tier swap
raven brook
If we're talking about lore specifically then might aswell consider the tier swap in mind
dusk laurel
evil dragon vultures
raven brook
Hardmode bosses get a bit more complexity atleast
worldly spindle
Dragonfolly's being moved...?
raven brook
Yea
Evil2 swap
With that in mind i forgot to add calclone in there but
frankly calclone is a character thats so poorly explored rn that i have no idea what her motivation to fight you is atm
theres alot of directions you could take her when she does get rewritten
worldly spindle
This is making me realize that Deerclops doesn't have a lore item
worldly spindle
It would be so funny tho
magic epoch
magic epoch
iemade it after a particularly inspiring message from the woke lesbian jesus
raven brook
Queen Slime - Uhhh it's gonna be a rogue paladin so... Wants to eat you??
Cryogen - Much like WoF it's supposed to contain something and dying is kind of counterintuitive to that so it attacks you
Aquatic Scourge - Self-Defense, normally a docile filter feeder
Brim elemental - She seems complicated but from the little we know she seems to be territorially defending the Crags
Mech Bosses - Evil ass yharmy soldiers that want to kill you because you're growing in power and/or because you have traces of divine essence on you from your exploration iirc..?
Plantera: Wants to eat you????
Analevi: Anahita seems particularly violent and lures in people to drown them so yeah i think shes just kinda trying to kill you for the love of the game and then when she starts being injured levi comes in to her aid
Aureus: Astral infection moment
Golem: You wake it up, it acts in defense of the temple, i suppose
PBG: It's literally a Cyborg Murder Bee it kills everything
god
so many
hardmode bosses
thats not even all of them
boar myself
SG is in the same boat as calclone i have no fucking clue
maybe slime god actually just wants to eat you
who knows man
dusk laurel
i mean for plantera you could say shes defending the bulbs... for some reason
raven brook
when in doubt, wants to eat you
worldly spindle
I still think it would've been funny if Yharim acknowledged Deerclops as not belonging to this world, you can acknowledge him and not integrate him into the lore
raven brook
gfb
worldly spindle
Deadass he could be like "why did you waste your time with this thing"
raven brook
dusk laurel
so many
controversial take but i think cryogen should be a miniboss for the hardmode blizzard instead of a boss, since its just a magical construct and isnt all too special
raven brook
yeah i think thats a pretty hot take since hes like
kind of a pretty big deal
narratively
and also like
hyou could say that about pretty much everything
quene slime is just a slime
mech bosses r just robots
also hardmode blizzard already has a miniboss
sorry vanillin i think thats an l take ...
dusk laurel
also hardmode blizzard already has a miniboss
fake
raven brook
you're fake
fakillin
in my humble opinion if ya wanna turn a cal hardmode boss into a miniboss
cryogen ain't it
because aquascoog is right there
dusk laurel
explain yourself
raven brook
It requires the dead thing to be an auric dragon, which have auric souls
so yeah
It only works on them
dusk laurel
yeah we have nothing on him reviving anything else and itd be weird because if he could why wouldnt he revive yharim
itd basically just be a refined version of necromancy then
split mortar
does yharon's power require the dead thing to have a soul?
God ascension removes the dragons soul from existence effectively so seems so yeah since cant rebirth dragon without soul
light linden
that is not what I was thinking of
wanton pendant
If Yharon could revive things that had lost their souls, he wouldn't be the last of his kind.
glacial rampart
because aquascoog is right there
I used to look up 2 u
dusk laurel
lol?
plucky lichen
Oh no I’m drawing slime god this is bad
dusk laurel
but true aquascoog definitely would be a potential miniboss contender (there is no chance they are making it a miniboss)
plucky lichen
Sucked into hell torture
dusk laurel
draw our genderfluid twink before they become the sludge
reef wigeon
Evil2 swap
What's that???
raven brook
evil2 is being swapped with dragonfolly in progression eventually
dragonfolly will be pre hm after evil1, evil2 will be post ml
reef wigeon
I was not talking about that, what are Evil1 and Evil2?
long bloom
your past self was an oracle apparently
soft flame
I thought Hivemind/perforators were post-ML when I barely knew about the mod
basically they're an alternate version of the other evil boss 1
but they are planning to move them to dragonfolly tier
reef wigeon
your past self was an oracle apparently
Yeah
soft flame
and vice versa
long bloom
basically they're an alternate version of the other evil boss 1
no not alternate
they're a tier above
for some reason
soft flame
hm
well by appearance they seem like the other evil biome's counterpart for the one it's of
raven brook
me when i fight evil1 and then fight evil2 immeidately after
soft flame
hive mind is a brain
raven brook
yeah thats what they were originally
soft flame
perferators make worms
raven brook
iirc something something they werent even supposed to be separate bosses at first
just a way for u to fight boc in corruption or eow in crimson
but fabsol scope crept them into actual bosses
soft flame
i see
dusk laurel
but fabsol scope crept them into actual bosses
just like how fabsol scopecrept like 10 other bosses into the mod
dusk laurel
early post moon lord
long bloom
but fabsol scope crept them into actual bosses
many such cases
long bloom
If Statis were a boss, what tier do you think he would be?
that might be kinda happening
iirc he gets possessed by signus or something
dusk laurel
heartbreaking: evil shadow limb prosthetics infact give the evil entity access to your brain
long bloom
soft flame
long scaffold
How different is old lore from new lore? I know basically nothing from old lore save for some guy named Daedalus and Yharim being a jungle guy
raven brook
New lore basically kept alot of "core" elements of old lore and just developed them further and scrubbed off all the ugly bits that didnt work
It's in practice completely different, but in theory they're alot closer than people think
languid badge
its a re-arranging essentially
most of the same elements are present just under different circumstances
languid minnow
The old lore is cooler than the current one
languid badge
meh
warm gull
return of fluffy 2
languid badge
return of fluffy 2
this fluffy is authetic I got it directly from the source smh
languid minnow
Is it organic?
long scaffold
New lore basically kept alot of "core" elements of old lore and just developed t...
Someone told me it was a lot darker; is that true at all?
languid badge
edgier
long scaffold
That would make sense
long scaffold
Do you have any examples?
latent flower
i mean new lore has the moon lord attacks and all the gods killing the dragons and yharim committing genocides
old lore has like
what it was the light gods vs the dark gods?? and the dark gods fused into noxus and xeroc was a light god or something
old lore feels edgier rather dark because it was less nuanced
warm gull
yeah old lore is edgy asl
I don't even know if new lore is darker, or just like
more grounded, which means that the horrible atrocities have more weight to them
raven brook
New lore isn't even that dark tbh
latent flower
ehhmmm
raven brook
It just takes itself seriously
Like if we're talking media that has actually dark lore i'd say like
light linden
New lore isn't even that dark tbh
it features a child soldier commiting war crimes
raven brook
Soulslike games, Fear and Hunger, Evangelion, Berserk, that sorta thing
latent flower
its not like grimdark levels obviously
raven brook
it features a child soldier commiting war crimes
Yeah
latent flower
but the lore is definitely dark
young socket
real life lore is dark imo
raven brook
Adventure time the pg everyone kids show on cartoon network has nuclear war that kills everyone and a villain that is the enbodiment of death and wants to cause omnicide
latent flower
Soulslike games, Fear and Hunger, Evangelion, Berserk, that sorta thing
honestly eva lore is not THAT dark compared to cal and all of these other ones are pretty much grimdark
light linden
Watch out.
young socket
Watch out.
😨
raven brook
Meh it feels no more dark to me than several other stories i know of
It's not lighthearted but it really dosen't feel like something all that dark to me
plucky lichen
Yharim is a good guy he said he’s sorry idk why everyone so against him
raven brook
That might be in part just due to the presentation
latent flower
well yas i mean
raven brook
Like yeah evil dark shit happened but im out here ifghting goblins on the hallow
plucky lichen
Fighting goblins in let’s just say
The hallowed
Sorry I’m being obnoxious rn
I can participate in conversations
raven brook
Also i disagree Eva is definitely darker than calamity imo
It deals with some much more sensitive topics
latent flower
well, eva has a plot
dusk laurel
The hallowed
🔥
plucky lichen
AHHH AHHH AHH
latent flower
and calamity doesnt really have a plot
dusk laurel
please keep talking
plucky lichen
LIE
dusk laurel
the goblins
plucky lichen
it does have a plot :(
latent flower
kinda?? but
latent flower
it 99.9999% worldbuilding
dusk laurel
cal has a plot its just the current ingame implementation is outdated/underdeveloped
latent flower
yas the plot is very sparse
raven brook
There's a plot but it's not centered i'd say
latent flower
evangelion worldbuilding is just
raven brook
Like there's not
latent flower
the bible
raven brook
a linear story ur following
plucky lichen
Yeah
latent flower
ya so i think its hard to compare evangelion plot to calamity lore
they different things
plucky lichen
Plot is yharim telling you about things and you believe him and then come in lore channel and ask why everyone thinks he’s evil
dusk laurel
🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
plucky lichen
Charlie slimecicle the slime god this is what this is
I’ll finish this tomorrow probably
dusk laurel
holy shir
raven brook
xeroc stole my lunch money. yharim was right all along kill every god
dusk laurel
fire slime god art lainey
raven brook
dont say that
raven brook
not only is it weird to say that to someone's art but also this is a public server with babies on it and people who otherwise don't wanna hear
raven brook
NOT canon btw i dont design for the calamity mod
its canon now
dusk laurel
im literally 3 seconds old
raven brook
yep
lainey you now have to design god of dogma because i want to see the design of the god of dogma
plucky lichen
Laura said it looks close to how they imagine them so I’ll take my wins
plucky lichen
lainey you now have to design god of dogma because i want to see the design of t...
God of dog
raven brook
i dont even like dogma