lore-discussion

[glossy wolf]

oh the lore items ingame r outdated?

[eager bluff]

we kill providence but not when yharim is depressed

[cloud ibex]

noxus is a ?

[split mortar]

Providence can be skipped

[eager bluff]

no

noxus is

never mentioned

[glossy wolf]

ohh i see

so hes not canon from what we know so far at least

[eager bluff]

no

he is canon

hes just not mentioned ingame

[glossy wolf]

ohh

[livid sandal]

the lore isnt fully integrated into the game

its still cannon tho

[agile matrix]

it'd be REALLY funny if we got a "noxus gun" thats actually just not very good

[eager bluff]

draedon bar

[glossy wolf]

isnt he the figure that is dominant in the distortion? and the ceaseless void is a portal or gate to the disortion?

[eager bluff]

yes

[cloud ibex]

noxus is as of right now one of the things we know the least about

[livid sandal]

the distortion is such a cool concept bro

[glossy wolf]

im excited to wait a couple dozen years for him to be mentioned once

[livid sandal]

a physical realm representing all of the entropy in the universe

[glossy wolf]

but i still have no idea how the 3 sentinels are connected to the DoG

[next remnant]

Yes, but within the game and on the wiki it's implied that he wanted to free everyone from the tyrannical gods. If someone here on Discord said that, and it's not in the game, then it's a bad story if we have to look elsewhere to learn more about the lore.

[eager bluff]

we know 2 main things about it

• the strongest fuckass in the distortion
• somehow connected to dog
  outside of that nothing

[glossy wolf]

like at all

[eager bluff]

they arent

[glossy wolf]

aside from ceaseless void

[eager bluff]

no he

[glossy wolf]

but thats iffy

[eager bluff]

he made that up

yharim made up his righteous cause

[glossy wolf]

so then wtf are they doing here

[split mortar]

There are sources in game that contradict yharim
Do not take what he says at face value

[eager bluff]

he himself directly contradicts his wording

read skeletron primes lore item

[livid sandal]

we kind of know that dog is a servant of noxus given how heavily it is implied that the godly essence he devours goes strait to noxus

[split mortar]

Not all gods are evil
Why do you think he never mentions the hallowed and that it was completely sealed in wof? They are the good gods that would force him ti maybe doubt his delusional belief and negatively affect his pr

[glossy wolf]

wbt xeroc?

[split mortar]

Xeroc even in the worst interpretation is still mandatory for the world to continue existing due to being likely the worlds guardian against a second moonlord iirc

[eager bluff]

So consumed by hatred were some souls, that they pledged they would do anything in my name.
Their devotion was unerring. Absolute. No atrocity was beyond them; their vengeance knew no bounds.
I organized them into shock troops, dreaded for their flamethrowers and incendiaries.
Leveling places of worship and torching those falsely devout, their expertise lay in unmaking faith with flame.
yharim intentionally organized a group of his army for burning civilians alive, its just that he words it in a way where you dont realize thats what hes doing

[glossy wolf]

So the moonlord was what killed most of the dragons, and then xeroc ascended after using one of the dragons essences or smth? Sorry if im wrong im so uninformed this mess of a lore

[eager bluff]

yeah

well not most

its about half and half between moon lord and gods

[split mortar]

Yeah as far as we know xeroc ascended after ml was dealt with

[glossy wolf]

so were fighting a saginificantly weakend version of him?

[eager bluff]

no

[livid sandal]

xeroc is an asshole and a traitor but the moonlord or "fovos" is just one of many cosmic threats that could decide to come down and have a buffet if it weren't for him

[split mortar]

We fight a weakened version of ml if thats what you mean

[eager bluff]

we dont know that

[split mortar]

And like look at ml

[glossy wolf]

yes thats what i mean

[split mortar]

Thats not healthy

[eager bluff]

we dont know any of the details about how xerocs ascension actually went down

[livid sandal]

true actually

[split mortar]

We dont know what went down between xeroc and zeratros
For all we know zeratros convinced xeroc to ascend

No one knows

[plucky juniper]

"...their expertise lay in unmaking faith with flame."

[split mortar]

Yharim (and yharon) speaking full bullshit when they say xeroc is definitely a traitor
Big maybe but cant be guaranteed

[eager bluff]

we know so little that its a commonly accepted theory that the ascension was consensual

[livid sandal]

yeah I took it a little for granted

[glossy wolf]

is there like a vid or a doc i can watch or read to get caught up on the lore?

[split mortar]

Pins for the lore intro master doc

[livid sandal]

pinned messages

[split mortar]

^

[eager bluff]

we cant trust yharims word on a lot of draconic or even early gods stuff because not only is his info secondhand its secondhand from literally the most biased individual in the game

[next remnant]

The lore as it is feels incomplete. I know it will be improved over time, but I feel it was unnecessary to change everything when it was already somewhat established. This is most noticeable in Yharon's song, which doesn't fit with the current lore. I would have liked some elements of the new lore to have been incorporated into the old lore (because, to be honest, the way they introduced the Auric Dragons is one of the best aspects of the current Calamity lore), but not to change everything, or even the vanilla Terraria lore. I feel it should complement each other, not be completely overhauled. Or at least that's my opinion. If what I said was completely wrong, feel free to tell me.

[glossy wolf]

ok thanks

[rancid orchid]

yharim did nothing wrong tbh i would also slaughter millions for my giant dragon soulmate malewife

[livid sandal]

as an owner of a jungle dragon myself, yharim was justified

[plucky juniper]

i think the yharon song actually influenced the lore in a way that it was written to make the song canon-compliant
it might not seem like it tho, especially with its name being "Roar of the Jungle Dragon"

[eager bluff]

the issue with not changing vanillas lore is that vanillas lore is not conducive to an actual story

vanillas lore is made up of almost exclusively shit red thought up on a whim in the shower and just added it

[livid sandal]

I mean, if fufills its purpose for vanilla terraria

[glossy wolf]

so what r examples of good gods, or at least ones that have mainly good intentions

[eager bluff]

silva

[livid sandal]

Silva I guess

[eager bluff]

slime god is at least neutral

[glossy wolf]

what'd she do and why did yharim kill her (if he did)

[next remnant]

It feels like he's trying to force it to happen

[dusk laurel]

silva, the god of sacrifices agnus, otonilou the electricity goddess, and tyrian the sea god

[eager bluff]

shes a god so yharim put her into a woodchipper which, because shes also an elemental, didnt actually kill her, but shes mulch at the bottom of the abyss right now

[livid sandal]

elementals are a whole other can of worms lol

[split mortar]

Otonilou has been described as a saint

[eager bluff]

i mean yeah

silva is just the one elemental thats also a god

[livid sandal]

I know I was just mentioning it because the more we explain the more questions it makes

[eager bluff]

byeah agnus (who eventually became ravager through no actions of his own) and both of the ilmeran gods were good gods

[plucky juniper]

yknow what i'll say

[livid sandal]

ravager is gonna be so fucking cool once they actually make him good

[woeful karma]

then aquatic scourge can finally claim its rightful throne as my least favorite boss in cal

[eager bluff]

what the fuck octo appearance

[woeful karma]

:3

[dusk laurel]

auric octo

wtf

[split mortar]

The reason everything was changed was due to old lore being very, everywhere and not elaborating big things and quite inconsistent at stuff
Yharons song infact does fit its supreme calamitas who doesnt
Vanilla terraria lore is changed by old lore as well no?? I get that feel but the devs are going for something that does not work with vanilla

[woeful karma]

mhm mhm

[eager bluff]

yeah vanilla lore has pretty much always been disregarded by calamity

[woeful karma]

vanilla terraria lore is changed by vanilla terraria lore

[dusk laurel]

vanilla "lore"

[split mortar]

Lmao?

[eager bluff]

as i said vanilla lore is just stuff red thought of in the shower

[woeful karma]

WAA

JUMPSCARE

i was not expecting to click on that profile and read melon gun

[eager bluff]

vanilla lore works because vanilla doesnt try to have an overarching story

calamity does have an overarching story so vanillas lore just doesnt work

[woeful karma]

vanillas only consistent design trait is that its silly

[livid sandal]

vanilla itself shines because of not doing anything in particular

[eager bluff]

its silly goofy occasionally cool shit and for how vanilla treats lore that works very well

[livid sandal]

which makes it kind of funny how serious calamity is

[eager bluff]

lore in vanilla is just flavor

hell most of it isnt even full on lore it just says what the thing does

[livid sandal]

I mean the crimson being the mutated corpse of cthulu is pretty metal

thats arguably even cooler than calamity's version

[woeful karma]

that was calamity's version

that was old lore

[eager bluff]

yeah vanillas is just the crimson is a big single entity

[glossy wolf]

if Noxus hasn't even been mentioned once in game, how do we know for sure he exists??

[next remnant]

Well, whatever they say, anyway I think the old lore won't return no matter how much I want it to. I suppose what I'll have to do is create my own version that makes sense and is a good complement to the vanilla Terraria lore. After all, the essence of Terraria has always been creating your own story.

[eager bluff]

direct dev confirmation and known plans

[glossy wolf]

k

[limpid saddle]

what ss (no o) said & also the fact there have been several allusions to him in-game

he doesn't need to be directly stated to exist

[visual kiln]

plick

[woeful karma]

pooki

[visual kiln]

terraria lore is like tf2 lore except tf2 lore exists

imo

[livid sandal]

I probably just loosely remembered that from old calamity and subconsiously made up that it was the vanilla lore

[limpid saddle]

Yharim testifies that the Devourer was always lying about the origin of Ceaseless Void, claiming to have created it himself despite being incapable of holding a rift open for what seems like more than a few seconds at most, Yharim is also entirely sure something is operating behind DoG, something that 'threatens us all'

[dusk laurel]

eintierly

[limpid saddle]

Noxus exists, & Yharim is terrified by it

[split mortar]

I wish you good luck on that endeavor and hope its fun

[dusk laurel]

horrible

[woeful karma]

yeah
vanilla lore is not particularly engaging

[livid sandal]

I do kind of wish it was more implied that the crimson was physical "god meat" rather than just soul essence like the corruption icl

[limpid saddle]

there bam shut up

[limpid saddle]

well i mean both are, both of that

[visual kiln]

that'd go crazy tbh

[limpid saddle]

the biomes spawned of festering god corpses, both their flesh & essence seeping into the land

[visual kiln]

i kinda wish that cal had kept parts of the terraria lore for the crimson

that being that it was just one giant living organism thing

[limpid saddle]

theres a reason the crimson & it's creatures are fuelled by ichor, the blood of the gods

[woeful karma]

well it is

its just not an interdimensional(?) organism

[eager bluff]

not necessarily interdimensional but at the very least interplanetary

[next remnant]

I honestly don't know why I keep clinging to the idea that the old lore will return when the reality is that it will never happen. After all, the decisions have already been made and it's impossible to change them.

[livid sandal]

Its still not like, the bodies physically growing like a tumour though. Its more like the matter is being corrupted by the gods' evil and turns into the meat

[limpid saddle]

former concept seems a bit too treading on the toes of other horror ideas

[glossy wolf]

Assuming the Terrarian kills all bosses and finally beats Scal and Draedon, are they on par with Yharim in strength or power?

[limpid saddle]

yeah

[livid sandal]

fair I guess

[limpid saddle]

final update we're gonna kill him

[glossy wolf]

we'll be dead by then

[limpid saddle]

hardehar

update take long

[livid sandal]

calamity is like the coolest thing ever exept it doesn't really exist yet

[limpid saddle]

a fair take on the matter

[glossy wolf]

couldnt have said it better myself

[woeful karma]

very true

[young socket]

rare octo in calmain appearance

[livid sandal]

is octo a dev of something?

[eager bluff]

no

[dusk laurel]

nope

[limpid saddle]

they manage the lore doc

[livid sandal]

oh ok cool

[eager bluff]

not since te shut down anyways afaik

[limpid saddle]

the greatest invention of cal scholarship

[young socket]

just a person who used to be here a lot

[dusk laurel]

octo is one of the te users that lurk in this server

[glossy wolf]

im reading this lore doc and i both love and hate how narcassistic the DoG is lmao

[next remnant]

Dog in both lore is god

[glossy wolf]

[limpid saddle]

:cluebed:

[split mortar]

[robust osprey]

[next remnant]

By the way, you haven't answered what I told you.

[split mortar]

Oh what was it must have missed sorry

[next remnant]

.

[long bloom]

what is there to say to that

[limpid saddle]

yeah thats

[split mortar]

Prolly just cause you liked it a lot
Also yeah what snailrook said, that doesnt read like a question

[limpid saddle]

kind of just a statement

[next remnant]

Oh im sorry

[split mortar]

👍

[dusk laurel]

[woeful karma]

no no i manage the other lore doc the one thats a hot mess of random theories and speculation and is trying to be the first place someone experiences the lore fsr

[latent flower]

there are two?

[split mortar]

Yes if you look further in pins you will see the first lore doc

[woeful karma]

yeah

[latent flower]

oh fun'!

[woeful karma]

its in the process of being reformatted into the calamity lore reference document

as a sister document to the introductory cal masterdoc that only catalogues all the ingame text

[latent flower]

oh okayy

so the first one i see in pins is like here's what you learn ingame

and the further down one is like

here's what to do with that

[woeful karma]

nono

other way around

[latent flower]

OHH yess i see now i get it

celeri undersrand

[woeful karma]

:3

[latent flower]

that's coool

have you considered

writing all the calamity lore

yourslef

that would make it easier to write the docs

[split mortar]

Writers have had input on the first doc iirc

[woeful karma]

the introductory masterdoc had input from the writers

[split mortar]

Yeah im not on about that doc

[split mortar]

Also im melongun i helped with the intro masterdoc

[woeful karma]

fuck

😭

one day ill recognize u

[latent flower]

melongub!

aka siffrin

[split mortar]

I played in stars and time and got nuclear bombed by autism

[woeful karma]

very based

[woeful karma]

but theyve been mostly hands off with the older lore doc due to it being filled with theories
which is also why reb stopped managing it

since she became a dev

and thus couldnt put theories into the doc

[latent flower]

laame

let devs theorize

[woeful karma]

its good anyways because the lore doc shouldnt be a theory doc -w-

[split mortar]

Intro Master doc uses dev statements so sorta like that anyways but like good

[latent flower]

my theory is draedon develops a crush on the terrarian as he's watching them go through the game

[long bloom]

[woeful karma]

he would never cheat on yharim

[latent flower]

and his love language is building evil robots

[long bloom]

false...

[latent flower]

for us to fight

bc we love fighting stuff

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, old lore isn't coming back. That said, we welcome the idea of fan works continuing, developing or building upon old lore!

Also, if I'm not mistaken, the lore of Fables is gonna be inspired by old lore and will go in a very different direction compared to base Calamity, so maybe that'll be more interesting to you?

[latent flower]

he got bored of yharim as he got old and predictable

[woeful karma]

anyways
if you go back to that old doc youll find so many relics of the early new lore era

[split mortar]

Never read that doc tbh

[woeful karma]

theres still a joke theory reb had about a jellyfish god being worshipped in the tundra shrine

[long bloom]

fake fan

[woeful karma]

fast forward a few years

[latent flower]

no it's all my choice now

[woeful karma]

we have a jellyfish god

[latent flower]

ie decide the terrarian s lore

[woeful karma]

oh true

[split mortar]

Yea i said that

[woeful karma]

i am the terrarian

decide my lore

[latent flower]

LOL thanks

Rebeca

😭

turning fan theory into real lore

[latent flower]

🤔

[split mortar]

It was her fan theory i think

[woeful karma]

yeah

[latent flower]

oh based!

[woeful karma]

and the theory is

still on the doc

[latent flower]

oco lore is

octopus from the ocean possesses the halibut cannon (back when it was a 1/10000 drop from sulfur sea enemies) and is now murdering everyone as revenge for deaedon polluting the sulphur sea

[split mortar]

Are we discussing terrarians now

[latent flower]

and the whole time draedon is watching the crazy octopus and for the first time in his life has no idea wtf is going on

this is true it's confirmed

celedi fact

[glacial rampart]

what the hell octoling grimm in 2025

[woeful karma]

oh im rebs oc

[glacial rampart]

i was trying to find an emote for it but 90% of the emotes here are reddit

[silent warren]

this is one of my favorite images ever

[split mortar]

Oh hello hobbit2072

[woeful karma]

TRUE

[split mortar]

This is true for many people

[latent flower]

who taht

[split mortar]

Rebecca is a lore writer

@spare pier hey get reb to call someone stinky idk

[woeful karma]

calamari
thats like basically her lore

[latent flower]

oh yay

i love calamari

[glacial rampart]

[latent flower]

she my spirit animal

[glacial rampart]

reeks

[latent flower]

idk some of the emojis are good

[spare pier]

I mean not really

[woeful karma]

this is a portent of great change to come...

im like absol

[glacial rampart]

the cal ones are good but theres so many reddits

[glacial rampart]

say that again

[spare pier]

Besides the octopus part

[latent flower]

mostly just the pumkin

[spare pier]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-bear-spongebob-safety-anti-sea-bear-circle-spongebob-funny-gif-8782259290133626566

[glacial rampart]

:creditreport: is really good too

[latent flower]

LOL

[glacial rampart]

LOL

[latent flower]

WHAt

you copied me

[woeful karma]

cephalopod thing from the abyss becomes super powerful

its close enough -w-

[woeful karma]

THE POKEMON

im killing you

[latent flower]

that's not a pokemon that's a sponge bob

[spare pier]

Debatable

[thick slate]

oatrick

[spare pier]

Calamari is awesome btw

[glacial rampart]

thats fire you're so cool

[spare pier]

I love my squid

[glacial rampart]

I'm a spectre from days long passed 👻

[latent flower]

what's calamari lore

o wo

[woeful karma]

nods sagely

[split mortar]

What am i

[glacial rampart]

reddit

[latent flower]

I am ceri

[split mortar]

Wgat the fuck

[thick slate]

salary

[latent flower]

yes!!

hello um

coke??

[icy veldt]

I am Le Evil 😎

[woeful karma]

uhhh iirc abyss squid gets given some of silva's auric soul and becomes god of evolution

[icy veldt]

"Erm aktzschually it's L'Evil not Le Evil" 🤓

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-ego-gif-9709800945809453150

[latent flower]

LOL SOERY IDK

i been away

how you

[split mortar]

My terrarian is pro yharim we must fight

[latent flower]

😭

[glacial rampart]

like some kind of evolving storm .

[spare pier]

Baby Colossal Squid dies

[latent flower]

oh thats cool

[spare pier]

Silva sees that and goes

[latent flower]

i would invision a god of evolution as something similar to like an scp 682 type thing

[spare pier]

"Hey I think you can do some great shit. Here's a piece of my Auric Soul. Now go kick ass."

[latent flower]

am i stupud

envision

[spare pier]

She then proceedes to kick ass

[thick slate]

good

meow

[glacial rampart]

nobody nose .

[latent flower]

yay yay gipee

[glacial rampart]

🤫

[latent flower]

meow...

[latent flower]

that's awesome

[latent flower]

is this accurate

or like a mahoraga

[spare pier]

Not exactly but partially

It's more about her power level increasing extremely quickly

Particularly during battles

[latent flower]

mmm so similar

[spare pier]

But she does get specific resistances to some things

Particularly

Due to being Auric Rejected a fuckjillion times she ends up developing an immunity to it

By making her soul fully auric

[latent flower]

lmao that's so cool 😭

bro gets zapped into being a dragon

[spare pier]

Which in turn lets her attune her Ark of the Cosmos to the Aerie

[split mortar]

Siffrin vs desert scourge

[spare pier]

And get the coolest fucking sword ever

[latent flower]

real

what it called

[spare pier]

I didn't come up with a unique name

[latent flower]

😔

can it be called celeri

[spare pier]

Maybe

[latent flower]

hell yas

cleri is rebecca lore canon now

[spare pier]

Also maybe

[spare pier]

She also does this while fighting Yharim

The progression is basically that they are both fighting and she manages to break his sword

[latent flower]

based

fuck yuo old man

🖕

[spare pier]

He then proceeds to beat her with his hands straight up

And breaks her Ark

So it's a fist fight

A situation in which Calamari is obviously in a massive disadvantage

It slowly turns into a one-sided beatdown

[latent flower]

can't she tentacoe slap him

thwack

[spare pier]

Until Calamari develops the Auric immunity and manages to get her sword back

Which she uses to finish off Yharim

[spare pier]

She actually doesn't have tentacles

But she can spit out ink

[latent flower]

WHAT

life ruined

[split mortar]

Calamari vs

[latent flower]

ts heartbreaking

😭

[thick slate]

celemari

[latent flower]

yes i agree

[split mortar]

You

[latent flower]

i win

she can't adapt to my whale barage

[pulsar ocean]

Where’s the gun

[latent flower]

🐳

blowhole blast!

[split mortar]

Wanna see how long it takes till people start calling me siffrin like they did with lea

[pulsar ocean]

evil

[wanton pendant]

Like some kind of timeloop.

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/siffrin-in-stars-and-time-siffrin-nod-violent-head-shake-gif-16654999690461845662

[latent flower]

https://tenor.com/view/reze-tongue-out-reze-chainsaw-man-moving-her-head-reze-head-moving-reze-chainsaw-man-gif-15937294161332759512

ive stolen this gif

great gif

[glossy wolf]

so where did the wulfrum robots come from? who made them?

[woeful karma]

the great and glorius patriarch of the wulfrum dynasty john wulfrum

[glossy wolf]

[woeful karma]

(they were created by resistance organizations to harass yharim's troops)

[glossy wolf]

wow!

they dont do jack shit!

still love them tho cause u get rover drive

and rover drive gives sponge

[woeful karma]

they do good enough to kill a regular foot soldier every once in a while

and theyre very cheap

[glossy wolf]

do they like mistake us as one of their troops to where they attack us?

[woeful karma]

they probably just dont have discerning targeting systems

[ruby heart]

he is p much human with some slightly diferences

i mean they are significantly diferent, providence for example was human, not a floating rock statue with fire wings

[ruby heart]

one thing i was planning to do for the gods that were part of the "council" (the ones that made the entire god king yharim thing) always have a more humanoid shape compared to other gods, as they prize their humanity

[glossy wolf]

wait ik i sound dumb for asking this, but is goozma canon or is it just an addon boss

[ruby heart]

not canon now, but i had some evil plans which i want to discuss with the team

if i end up being the one to do slime god final design

[livid sandal]

Im pretty sure goozma is based off of the old slime god lore

[ruby heart]

(its p much goozma just being slime god actual name, since slime god is a title)

goozma was noxus

p much

or well sorta, goozma as a concept splitted into noxus and slime god

it was the dark evil god counterpart of xeroc in ancient lore

[livid sandal]

huh

didn't realise goozma was actually a part of the lore at one point

[ruby heart]

ancient fabsol lore

but yea he was real, and there is a image of this goozma still in the mod files i think

🥹 shadowspec being a lore character is so comical

[livid sandal]

a slime themed noxus would have been pretty anticlimactic lol

[ruby heart]

im unsure when goozma became associated to slime god, but he was p much noxus (or well he was literally old lore noxus)

i dont even think he had a slime relation back them

sorta

possibly

was p much just evil dark god

[livid sandal]

We haven't been given anything regarding what noxus may be or look like in the new lore right?

[livid sandal]

such a goofy name to give to something if it isn't slime theme haha

[ruby heart]

it is related to final fantasy ozma

[livid sandal]

oh the classic fabsol "references"

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, it's funny even then, because with that as a reference...it's Ozma, but with "Goo" attached

[ruby heart]

that is p much it

noxus name lore too

[hybrid barn]

Huh- y'know, I'll say, that's actually pretty neat storytelling

[ruby heart]

there is lore about future bosses too

they were the past bosses

[livid sandal]

Honestly for all the detestable stuff about fabsol he did have some pretty cool ideas now and then, buried beneath a heap of garbage but still.

(the message order makes it look like I'm talking about the future bosses I'm definitely not lol)

[light linden]

hi triangle

[latent flower]

this is true lore

[woeful karma]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN HTERE WERE PAST BOSSES

😭

how have i never heard of this

[latent flower]

YOU DIDNT NNOW???

LOL??

Unless those are different then the ancient doomsayer guys

In that case I have no idea who those are

they were peak...

[glacial rampart]

im fucking sorry past bosses

[light linden]

I mean

it'd be cool to see past versions of characters but NOT as bosses

unless they were explicitly different

looking at you fovos

idc about lore friendliness, I wanna see the thing that changed the trajectory of an entire solar system in action

[noble falcon]

Travel back to past
Sane Cultist
He’s actually like super chill and just vibes with you for a while

[livid sandal]

I know it will never happen but a proper fovos fight would be so cool

maybe we'll get a goozma type addon for him eventually

[plucky lichen]

We might lowkey get giga fried if we fought prime fovos

But the terrarian is YOU so perhaps it doesn’t matter

My canon terrarian is whatever the fuck those crazy ass boss no hit runners are doing

[livid sandal]

I love the idea that even in a universe where gods exist, even they know nothing about the sheer fathoms of space and even with technology as advanced as dreadon's full scale space travel is mostly impossible. Fovos isn't a god but some force of nature from the void that rivals even the gods.

Not even just rivals, is second to literally only one.

[spare pier]

Well, he is second to someone.

[hybrid barn]

I think that depends a lot on if we'll get to fight Noxus all the way to the end (if he gets added in the first place, that is)

[spare pier]

But yes.

[livid sandal]

I said second to one not no one, can see how that reads wrong

[spare pier]

Oh.

I did not notice that.

[noble falcon]

The terrarian can kick anyone’s ass regardless of canon strength because with all the power in the universe, the one hurdle that can never be overcome is using attacks that don’t have clear gaps and/or indicators

[pliant ruin]

im ngl i always thought it came from guzma

like the pokemon guy

[long bloom]

pokemon sun/moon released after goozma existed iirc

[pliant ruin]

damn

how far does the concept of goozma date back to actually i remember it originally was literally just a marble

like its original desgin was just a marble ball

yknow the ones

but i dont remember when that was

i think it was first talked about somewhere around abyss updatre

[long bloom]

wait they came out in 2016

[pliant ruin]

ah

so abyss update was probably after that hten

[long bloom]

2018

[plucky lichen]

Yeah I was thinking lmao

2016…

10 years ago almost

What the FUCK!

I got sun and moon and played it 9 years ago

Ugh what the hell

[noble falcon]

which pokemon could beat goozma

arceus is a given

[feral skiff]

pikachu because they are the main pokemon of the series

and he has plot armor

[pliant ruin]

probably all of the legendaries who are like just straight up gods

[pliant ruin]

Discuss

[eager bluff]

in what context

[visual kiln]

what does this MEAN

[dusk laurel]

cheese what the fuck is this

[eager bluff]

ik its rapping but what kind

[pliant ruin]

How well would they do in a rap fight

[dusk laurel]

omg so it IS the rapping tier list

[latent flower]

cracked by who

[pliant ruin]

☹️

[latent flower]

your fault for no context

[eager bluff]

oh i think ravager picks the more evil(?) option and shoots them

[eager bluff]

archrapper

[pliant ruin]

☹️

[latent flower]

idk what that means 😭

[visual kiln]

oh hai celeri

[latent flower]

hello!!

[visual kiln]

hihihi :D

hruu

plpl

[latent flower]

i am good

i made chocken

[visual kiln]

yayyy :3

[latent flower]

[visual kiln]

chocken

🐔

[latent flower]

yesss

[visual kiln]

woahhh

[latent flower]

so delicious

[visual kiln]

mhm mhm

[latent flower]

alsooo if this list is rapping ability

[eager bluff]

Prefix: Arch- (augmentative) Intensely, extremely, or exceptionally

[latent flower]

then i appreciiate '

old duke being so high

i agree witb that wholeheartedly

hed definitely make you cry

[visual kiln]

🐇 bunny wins against everyone

imo

[latent flower]

true..

[visual kiln]

:3

[latent flower]

clleri best rapper

[pliant ruin]

Cryogen is technically not permafrost but i needed to fit in the archrapper agenda in there somewhere

[visual kiln]

oh true

oh clleri

2 l

[latent flower]

i don t think calamitas would be a very good rapper

she strikes me more of like

metal vocalist

[visual kiln]

yea shes too socially isolated imo

[pliant ruin]

she is permafrosts daughter so she has naturally some experience

but she wouldnt be as good as him of course

nobody is as good as him

[latent flower]

yeah she channels that lyrical ability into intense stuff

like breaking down mid studio recording

[visual kiln]

she just screams at u n ur ears vanish

[latent flower]

scream vocals

[dusk laurel]

arch rapper permaheat

[pliant ruin]

TRUE

[eager bluff]

oh yeah scal absolutely could do a killer death growl

[pliant ruin]

These bars aren't cryonic anymore ...

[visual kiln]

calamitas’s true name is permaheat

[dusk laurel]

permafrost is going to become the brimstone sorcerer

[eager bluff]

permafrost is the Archmage of Heat

[latent flower]

sprime would jsut say slurs

none of which can he actually reclaim

[eager bluff]

this is rap we're talking about thats not a question of if

[latent flower]

well yeah but sprime would be evil with it

[pliant ruin]

sprime would throw out 200 slurs its true

[eager bluff]

infernum sprime netcode wall of fucks except each fuck is replaced with a unique slur

[latent flower]

i think brimmy is too high

[pliant ruin]

perforators and hive mind are complete equals in rap skill. in fact to this day they still tell the tales of years ago whe nthe god of dogma and god of war had a rap fight between them, and htere was no clear winner

[eager bluff]

she is the elemental of heat

[pliant ruin]

they say their rivalry lives on to this day

[visual kiln]

https://youtu.be/hy80Zphx4Es

this is sprime

[pliant ruin]

embed f

[latent flower]

shes too unstable

similar boat as calamitas

[dusk laurel]

cheese murderer

[latent flower]

burt less cool

[pliant ruin]

i think brimstone elemental would be very similar to sprime

in taht she'd just throw 200 slurs at your general driection

[eager bluff]

similar to sprime except shes allowed to use the slurs she uses

[pliant ruin]

yep

[dusk laurel]

brimmy will look the part when they set her on fire in phase 2

[pliant ruin]

actually true and real

shoutout to the shipping tier list where i put brimmy and zaelithar in the power couple tier

literally "i like blowing orphanages up and setting grandmas on fire" x "i like blowing orphanages up and setting grandmas on fire"

[eager bluff]

i imagine the god of war vs god of dogma rap battle was like
god of dogma has the more creative wordplay
but god of war has the better production value and marketing on his

[dusk laurel]

truth

[pliant ruin]

[visual kiln]

truke

[pliant ruin]

the divine rap fight of '94

[dusk laurel]

otonilou versus calamitas rap battle

[eager bluff]

like god of dogma is the undisputed king of wordplay and god of war is the undisputed king of production value (permafrost isnt counted here because any comparison made to him causes the other rappers to freeze)

[eager bluff]

"you killed civilians"
"bitch i killed YOU"

[pliant ruin]

otonilou would be on the cry tier

she's too nice

[visual kiln]

what tier am i on

[dusk laurel]

murder tier

[pliant ruin]

i dont want to hurt your feelings azzy

[visual kiln]

oh

[eager bluff]

god of war and god of dogmas beef only cleared up because yharon tried to diss both of them at once so they had a collab that thoroughly beat yharon into the dirt

[pliant ruin]

this is why yharon hated gods

the entire "revenge for my species" thing is just a coverup

he wants catharsis for that humiliation

[eager bluff]

infernal catharsis, even

(rebirth)

[dusk laurel]

yharon is just a hater tbh

[eager bluff]

he started beef he had no chance of winning and used that to become a producer/ghostwriter for the current newcomer in the scene (yharim)

[latent flower]

yharim would suck at rapping

[dusk laurel]

explain the 300 million cases of lost life

[eager bluff]

hes a horrible writer but he kills the delivery

and kills on delivery because yharon is a bird his ass doesnt know how to produce shit

[random mulch]

i know, i wasn't talking aobut providence

[hybrid barn]

I mean, how many gods are there that we know are like that?

[eager bluff]

at least 2 maybe 3 because xeroc

actually 4 because agnus

[hybrid barn]

I mean, Agnus definitely looks more human than like...Slime God or Providence, but it seems like they still changed a decent amount when they ascended

[eager bluff]

i believe hes like the minimum for change to somethings body via ascension

silva and xeroc dont count xeroc can just make an illusion and silva can just rebuild her body

[hybrid barn]

I think Xeroc should count since even if he can put up an illusion, it's just that, an illusion
But yeah, good point for Silva

[noble falcon]

I’d move DoG into cry tier, but he’ll put in a good effort before he’s booed off stage
And by good effort I mean he sings some crap like “My name is DoG, and I’m here to rap” and is kicked out immediately after

[glacial rampart]

I'm nightmare freddy and im in yo head im nightmare freddy and im in yo bed

[noble falcon]

That’s the kinda stuff DoG would try and rap, you nailed it
He’d cry in the bathroom of the venue specifically

Staring in the mirror reassuring himself that he’s not washed when he very much is, and he knows it

[mighty zenith]

the robots would make FNF beep noises

[dusk laurel]

thats just horrible

[agile matrix]

dog would suck overall but he would be so confident it would be like listening to a very very steadfast moron

and then he'd cry everytime he's offstage

[woeful karma]

my subtle foreshadowing

[mighty zenith]

absol

[scenic olive]

its over 9000?

[latent flower]

gulp

[split mortar]

This is a 13+ server

[craggy sparrow]

Oh wait yeah

[latent flower]

draedon looks apologetically into yharons eyes this is... all for science...

[craggy sparrow]

Sorry I'll keep it a down low

[random mulch]

whu

[craggy sparrow]

You know your follow up might've made it even worse

[latent flower]

nobody will know the context now so im safe

[random mulch]

<== what did i miss

[latent flower]

for all you know this is just the hook of my fanfic where draedon tests the limits of yharons rebirth ability

maybe we'll go with that

[craggy sparrow]

Anyways do you guys think that the mechanic can replicate draedons designs

considering she made the exo mechs

i meant exo bosses

i keep getting those switched up

[pliant ruin]

Whar

[split mortar]

She didnt make the mechs in cal

[craggy sparrow]

Oh really?

who made them then?

[split mortar]

Draedon

[latent flower]

daedon

[split mortar]

At the request of yharim

[craggy sparrow]

He really is my op fr

why is the mechanic tied up then?

[split mortar]

Skeleprime being the super terrorist 9000 fuelled by super terrorists

[latent flower]

🔥

[craggy sparrow]

OH

[pliant ruin]

Tresspassed on the dungeon and the clothier was bored

[craggy sparrow]

wait i read the destroyer log

before

i forgot wtf

something something

yharim soldiers

became the destroyer

[pliant ruin]

Vanilla lore is shot dead in the water generally

[latent flower]

i made a tier list of the cal bosses based on the value they bring to a backyard barbeque party but it's on my laptop so you'll never see that part of my mind

aquaticscourge was S tier though he was smoking the brisket

[craggy sparrow]

I can make a tier list on what characters are chill in the barbeque party

[random mulch]

one day exo mechs will be good

[craggy sparrow]

Getting it off cal is excluded

shes the cool

[latent flower]

cal was in bag of chips tier

[craggy sparrow]

i dont have money for propane tanks

so shes using brimstone

[latent flower]

oh true...

might make the meat taste like sulfur

[craggy sparrow]

I'd invite yarhon

[latent flower]

yah he'd probably be better

[craggy sparrow]

but idk if he'll be offended if i cook barbeque chicken

[latent flower]

yharim would definitely be f tier

he'd be like backseat grilling

[craggy sparrow]

definitely

mood downer

[latent flower]

fr

[craggy sparrow]

Clothier and the merchant at A tier

they're the uncles

[latent flower]

agree

gotta have the uncs

permafrost is manning the grill

[craggy sparrow]

Another F tier would be the dryad

shes probably vegan

[latent flower]

bro makes burgers like a mothafucka

[craggy sparrow]

Nurse is a bitch ngl

[latent flower]

she might bring a nice salad or something

[craggy sparrow]

F tier

Cryogen is A

[latent flower]

nurse would suck unless someone gets food poisoning

[latent flower]

yup bros cooling the drinks

vital for the cookout

skeletron prime goes bottom of f tier

a tier of his own if possible

he just bombs evddyfht

everything

[pulsar ocean]

with celery or something

[latent flower]

hooly shit...

that's like

me aklmost ...

so close..

[pastel bay]

Do we think Yharim provides employee benefits like dental

[split mortar]

Almost certainly

[manic coral]

I was hoping to get a LOT of calamitas and permafrost dialogue into the update but sadly due to very important stuff going on irl

Not happening

Part of why I havent really been around at all recently

[cloud ibex]

unfortunate

[manic coral]

Frankly, I'm pretty frusterated that it's not getting in

[cloud ibex]

yeah most likely

[manic coral]

But I'm hoping I can convince people for a small patch with the stuff in it

[cloud ibex]

we know that part of the crusade's success was that yharim treated his troops well, enough so that soldiers from opposing sides would sometimes defect to his side because they lived so much better

[manic coral]

Don't know when that'd be, though, if it even will happen

[hot valve]

Hello lore chat it has been a while since I’ve been here

[split mortar]

Hello

[split mortar]

Are you aware of the second lore doc

[hot valve]

The- the what

[split mortar]

The second lore doc

[hot valve]

Hi melon gun

[random mulch]

the second lore doc

[hot valve]

no I
I don’t believe I am

I missed a lot didn’t I

I see it’s in pins

HOOOH that is long

I do not think I have time to read it all before my flight in a few hours

[thick slate]

aww that unfortunate

cant wait to see it

[hot valve]

I will read it when I get back home though

I scrolled down and saw the name ‘Gloomborf’ and that was enjoyable

[split mortar]

@pliant ruin

[pliant ruin]

My stupid chud son

[dusk laurel]

tofu gloomborf is the design in my heart

[hybrid barn]

Wait, there is a design for them? I must see it

[young socket]

not an official one

[dusk laurel]

yeah its not official

[hybrid barn]

Well fair, but still, I must see it

I need a mental reference for ze borf

[mighty zenith]

tofu gloomborf looks very friendshaped

[dusk laurel]

dragon of innovation suspiciously having draedon vibes... curious

[noble falcon]

“#1 Perfect”
They really did nail it first try

[dusk laurel]

also no this is NOT OFFICIAL

for anyone wondering

[hybrid barn]

THE BORF
I hope this is at least close to what the official design will be, it's beautiful

[young socket]

pebble !

[hybrid barn]

I can't wait for pebble to be real 🥺

[mighty zenith]

les

[hybrid barn]

Are there any confirmations on when those critters will be added?

[noble falcon]

Itty bitty dragon
Dragon of little guys

[mighty zenith]

nop

[young socket]

no

[hybrid barn]

Because all things considered, I'm going to assume it won't be in SSO

[young socket]

i cant wait for stiltstroller to get in,,,

stiltstroller breaks the conventions of critters so much i love it

[dusk laurel]

i love large critters

[limpid saddle]

good to know

[hybrid barn]

Oh yeah, that's an interesting one-
It's the only one that feels completely out of place in the game, but I kind of love it for that

[dusk laurel]

im killing you and then calclone.

[young socket]

extremely large
more than 5hp
encourages you to interact with it rather be solely an ambience set piece

[hybrid barn]

It dares to be different

[dusk laurel]

you didnt even try with painting over the words

its so botched and obvious

im suing you for this poor attempt of libel

[limpid saddle]

the words are seperated because YOU wanted to create emphasis

[hybrid barn]

I can't believe YOU™ would do this

[dusk laurel]

im going to kill you either way

adios!

[dusk laurel]

the terrarian will never leave you

[pulsar ocean]

you... as in the terrarian... as in me...

[robust osprey]

moonlord, ebonia, siffrin, no matter what you are, who you are, the terrarian will always be within your soul

[dusk laurel]

[noble falcon]

Hmm, those sound lame, I wanna be a despair stone and make one block calamity skyblock possible

[neat tinsel]

glorbo gleebus, master of the arcane

[livid sandal]

dreadons creator being the god of innovation would go so hard

[random mulch]

non canon dragon

[livid sandal]

I know I know, just a cool idea I think

[pliant ruin]

idk tbh

i think tying everything ever to gods is

kinda lame

i think its way cooler that draedon was just a really fucking smart human that managed to transfer himself into a robot and then became 500 times smarter over time

or well theoretically couldve not been a human but yg what i mean

like just a guy

[pliant ruin]

i think thats just a coincidence tbh

i dont think gao intended for the draedon vibes?

i could be wrong though

[dusk laurel]

its gao

[pliant ruin]

bug

[tropic oak]

🤖

[pliant ruin]

theres a bug

its flying around

its like a bee

ok bye bug

ok no its back

its just flyting around

[hybrid barn]

There's something funny to me about the idea that he learned how to essentially defy death and transfer his mind into a computer, but in doing so, neglected to leave anything behind to remind himself that he did that after waking back up

[livid sandal]

Yeah I'm not suggesting I don't like his current lore

He's my favourite thing in calamity ngl

[hybrid barn]

I'll admit...that's one positive to the cold ass winters we get where I am

[pliant ruin]

Tbh im of the beleif it was intentional

belief

Wanted to abandon his humanity or wtv

jojo i reject my humanity said draedon

[hybrid barn]

We only get boxelder bugs and those little orange "ladybugs", so there isn't anything constantly buzzing around my ears

[livid sandal]

Wasn't it before a widespread age of technology aswell

[bronze thistle]

OK big question, do we know how many gods there are or is that a "yet to come" thing

[livid sandal]

so dreadon's creater was like really fucking smart

[pliant ruin]

Neither

[hybrid barn]

Ah yeah, makes sense

[dusk laurel]

there were a couple

[bronze thistle]

dang

[pliant ruin]

We won't really ever know an exact number

Because like, we only explore one continent

There's a whole world out there

Let ur imagination run wild

All that's concrete is that there's not that many since Yharim killed most of em

But there Are some still alive

[hybrid barn]

Probably a lot less than there were dragons, since Fovos took a lot of the souls before they could

[split mortar]

And yharon did not get eated

[pliant ruin]

Well if we're talking about how many dragons there ever were

I mean gods

Rather than how many there are left

[livid sandal]

didn't a lot of gods just scavenge the corpses of the dragons fovos killed

[pliant ruin]

Yeah like probably around the hundreds

Like

400-600 or smth

[bronze thistle]

bigger question then, does an auric soul make one STRONGER than the dragon, or same level as the dragon

[pliant ruin]

Assuming the idea the dragons were around the thousands is still correct

[pliant ruin]

Neither

It's not as black and white like that

Alot factors involved

[hybrid barn]

They need an auric soul to ascend, and I believe Fovos was able to straight up eat those

[pliant ruin]

Usually gods are stronger

But that's because,w ell

Dragons generally rarely faced hardship and most of them didn't really take time to hone their skills or train

[hybrid barn]

Which is part of why he was such a threat, typically the dragons he killed couldn't come back

[pliant ruin]

Gods, on the other hand, alot of them have gotten in conflict and have had/went out of their way to train their powers

Gods aren't inherently stronger than Dragons like that but usually Gods are stronger than Dragons because of this

it's not always the case though

[bronze thistle]

brings the question, could a god solo prime moon lord or would it take a few gods

and how strong was prime moon lord 😭

[pliant ruin]

Is your god called Xeroc

If he is, yes

if not

No. No, definitely not

[split mortar]

Second strongest cal character

[pliant ruin]

Absolutely not

like 100% not at all

[tropic oak]

did someone Say

[split mortar]

Yes someone said xeroc

[hybrid barn]

Nah, you're hallucinating

[tropic oak]

[bronze thistle]

i know slime god would take the fattest L

must suck honestly

[pliant ruin]

I think you'd need like

[bronze thistle]

imagine being a limitless human

[livid sandal]

Dude I love how gods are treated in Calamity. They're like somewhat grounded if u know what I mean. Like just technology advanced enough or a creature from the depths of space can be way stronger than them. The forces of nature are what made the gods and can therefore be superior to them still.

[pliant ruin]

Almost all of the gods that ever existed (not counting xeroc) to band together to actually beat prime ml

[bronze thistle]

then absorbing some slimey auric soul

and being turned into a big ball of nuthin

[split mortar]

First time i have seen someone like this interpretation of godhood over them being glupshitto concept multiverse beings

[hybrid barn]

Hold on, I have something for this

[pliant ruin]

i mean ngl he ate the auric soul of GLUTTONY he was asking to get some shitass domain

[split mortar]

Imagine how horrific that was to go through becoming that ball

[pliant ruin]

you think you're gonna get something cool out of the literal "being a fatass" auric soul

[bronze thistle]

imagine having arms and the next thing you know you're mid tier pre hard mode slop 😔

[livid sandal]

I mean, gluttony is indulgance, not necissarily just food but still

[bronze thistle]

wonder if dragons have a defined meaning or were there some that were just like, guys who did things

cause if they all have to be the soul of something

[pliant ruin]

there are dragons who don't have auric souls

[split mortar]

Auric dragons are dragons with an auric soul

[bronze thistle]

there's gonna be some fuckass dragons that blow

[hybrid barn]

My beloved, my pathetic slime god 💕

[pliant ruin]

like old duke or primordial wyrm or dragonfollies

so like dragon is probably just

[split mortar]

Or wyverns

[pliant ruin]

a classification of creature

[bronze thistle]

yeah but they're demi dragons

[pliant ruin]

nah theyre just straight yup dragons

[bronze thistle]

fr?

[pliant ruin]

the wording ingame is confusing

[split mortar]

Biologically full dragons

[split mortar]

Yeah its ass

[pliant ruin]

shotutout to my

to my thing

where is it

make it canon and my life is yours caldev

[livid sandal]

he's not pathetic, just humble. He intentionally doesn't become stronger

[pliant ruin]

i mean cei said its baiscally what she thought of as is anyways os like lol

p

[livid sandal]

arent they ancestors of the dragons

[pliant ruin]

Nah more like descendants

[split mortar]

Does not mean they arent dragons

[livid sandal]

exept for ghost leviathan

[bronze thistle]

wonder what gives dragons their souls then

[split mortar]

Wait yeah descendants lol

[pliant ruin]

World Soul shards

[split mortar]

World soul shards yharon bestiary

[bronze thistle]

if gluttony can be weaker than duke but still a "god"

holy shit i know nothing about this lore

[pliant ruin]

the definition isnt based on strenght

[split mortar]

Gluttony was a auric dragon not a god

[mighty zenith]

dw the world soul is mentioned once in yharon's bestiary entry and never again

[livid sandal]

I ment to say descendants how tf would ancestors make any sense lol

[bronze thistle]

I KNOW im scrambling my words

[pliant ruin]

I mean tbf

[livid sandal]

idk what I was thinking

[pliant ruin]

In theory

[bronze thistle]

ok what the FUCK is the world soul

[pliant ruin]

The (auric) dragons would have ancestors

which would just be like

non auric dragons

[mighty zenith]

uhh

[pliant ruin]

so like

i mena

[bronze thistle]

is that what the moon lord was after or sum shit

[mighty zenith]

the soul. of the world

[livid sandal]

maybe thats why the duke is old

[mighty zenith]

thats all we know

[split mortar]

The world was alive at some point is a possible implication

[pliant ruin]

the world soul is the soul of the world

✍️ 🔥

[mighty zenith]

its called the world soul, parts of it are how dragons got their auric souls

[split mortar]

And now its soul is shattered
So
World possibly dead

[bronze thistle]

soul... of....the world...eternity soul... soul of eternity,,

[split mortar]

Calamity has no normal celestial objects damn

[livid sandal]

calamity is about a genocide against aura farmers

[pliant ruin]

the moon's evil

like the moon's just evil

[mighty zenith]

soul of terraria was right there bro...

[pliant ruin]

there's no explanation for why it's evil, it just is

[split mortar]

Possibly dead world
Sun is super magic
Moons just actually evil

[bronze thistle]

shhhhhhh

[bronze thistle]

kinda ironic considering in most folklore shes a saint

imagine worshipping a planet only for it to hate you

moon

[mighty zenith]

she's very cute in hades :3

[pliant ruin]

blood moons and solar eclipses are both caused by the moon for ????

[abstract hedge]

I don't think we actually have like, any lore on the moon.

[pliant ruin]

"draedon why dont you go like study the moon a nd stuff"
"its evil"
"what"
he then left the room and refused to elaborate

[split mortar]

Bloodmoon just becomes red and spawns more evil zombies more often

[abstract hedge]

Blood moons happen because uhhhhhhhhh

[eager bluff]

wait hold on
is the distortion the inside of the moon

[split mortar]

We dunno

[mighty zenith]

the moon is breathing

[eager bluff]

it would be incredible if it is

[bronze thistle]

"love the moon, too bad shes evil"
"huh"
"moons evil"
"what does that mean"
"the moon is evil damn"

[eager bluff]

there arent actually multiple moons its just the distortion fucking things up inside of there

[bronze thistle]

i had like a whole nother reason to be here and i entirely forgot because of the moon talk

[eager bluff]

am i cooking or is this fucking stupid

[abstract hedge]

Why would it be there

[eager bluff]

the moon is evil

[split mortar]

We dunno whats fully up with distortion

[abstract hedge]

Distortion isn't inherently evil

[cloud ibex]

it is red because it wants to kill you

[abstract hedge]

Yharim is evil but he's not from the moon.

[bronze thistle]

is the moon evil because of the moon lord or is it just evil because its bored

[abstract hedge]

Evil cause it's bored

[mighty zenith]

the moon is red because it cannot be placed there

[pliant ruin]

well blood moons and solar eclipses happened far before ml was a thing

[split mortar]

Was evil long before even the auric dragons came around

[abstract hedge]

What if Fovos was only evil cause of the moon

[eager bluff]

technically the moon isnt either but functionally it is

[pliant ruin]

and they still keep happening after he dies

so

like

[bronze thistle]

like i dont think putting the evil fuckass moon beast on the evil ass moon

[pliant ruin]

yeah its just evil because its bored moon lord being there is just a coincidence

[bronze thistle]

thats double evil

damn thinking about yharim, he was such a deadbeat

killed a god, caused a whole corruption of the land and said "lol this'll be fine and dandy"

[abstract hedge]

Two whole corruptions

[pliant ruin]

i mean yeah he's kind of a horrible person

[abstract hedge]

And a lot of gods not just one.

[pliant ruin]

like absolutely awful

[bronze thistle]

he fucked up twice and didnt bother either time

[pliant ruin]

refer to the image

[abstract hedge]

He is kinda a genocidal conqueror tyrant.

[pliant ruin]

he probably did that intentionally bt