Why not.
#lore-discussion
left rivet
crude musk
split mortar
The horrors just blasted me
left rivet
Sometimes when i don't feel cannon i become a deity who face cannot be seen
long bloom
The horrors just blasted me
i wasn't here for xeroc tax but i like to mention it anyway to activate people's fight or flight response
long bloom
no idea
abstract hedge
Yharim shouldn't be anybody's hero.
left rivet
Anyways calamitas clone was built by draedon right
abstract hedge
Yuh
left rivet
Yharim shouldn't be anybody's hero.
True
Genocide is not cool
Also im a bit Lost
Is crabulon still from sunken sea
In they new lore
long bloom
yeah
left rivet
Yey
split mortar
Hermititan that fled and died
left rivet
Dont say that
split mortar
Dont say that
?
split mortar
Because it now radiates a rave
abstract hedge
Is crabulon still from sunken sea
Crab got like 0 changes in the rewrite.
abstract hedge
Biggest changes were uh draedon, yharim, xeroc, and moxus iirc.
abstract hedge
Noxus
Typo
Cause old xeroc and noxus were a bunch of light and dark gods combined respectively but now they're the first god and a weird distortion thing.
wanton pendant
Anyways calamitas clone was built by draedon right
Built I feel is the wrong word.
Grown is more fitting I feel.
robust osprey
created
split mortar
Cloned
robust osprey
no I dont think calclone was the one to get cloned
split mortar
Draedon cloned scal and calclone is the clone surprisingly
long bloom
wasn't providence a mix of angel and demons souls
the light and dark gods fought each other so hard it made a new god (providence)
robust osprey
lmao
long bloom
cloud ibex
in old lore the aforementioned angels-demon thing and her thematically being about duality or whatever is why
currently uhhhhhhhhhhhh i don't really know
pulsar ocean
which one
real glen
both
wanton pendant
Why is providence profaned
Because she's evil.
real glen
Me when shes 'purifying' everything in her sight
dear god too much fire
robust osprey
we should purify lore chat
mighty zenith
Why is providence profaned
because shes an omnicidal cult leader
pliant ruin
"Profaned" is just a title for her because everyone fucking hates her
split mortar
Likely the most evil character
smoky forge
super super awesome wow
you should post this on tiktok/instagram
i think youd blow up lol
split mortar
Damn even non lore devs seeing it now
hybrid barn
What the fuuuuuck-
Maybe I should check out this channel more often
royal bluff
super super awesome wow
TYSM!! Im gonna post this 100%, then when its done ill post a full flipthrough on yt
visual kiln
lore discussion
smoky forge
TYSM!! Im gonna post this 100%, then when its done ill post a full flipthrough o...
If you need copyright safe music for that lmk, ill compose a calamity styled track for it lol
royal bluff
That would be awesome!
icy veldt
Likely the most evil character
Not counting the dragons, of course 
smoky forge
gotcha just hmu whenever that happens
limpid saddle
Draedon cloned scal and calclone is the clone surprisingly
saw calclone & my neurons activated what did i miss
random mulch
Not counting the dragons, of course <:ultimatesmug:807498328693669918>
hard to get more evil than "kill everything to ever."
split mortar
@limpid saddle
limpid saddle
Its... It's peak.
pulsar ocean
Will there be a 3rd lore doc
icy veldt
hard to get more evil than "kill everything to ever."
I could see an argument for killing all life, some potential circumstances where doing so would be reasonable, but being a dragon is unjustifiable
split mortar
I could see an argument for killing all life, some potential circumstances where...
All life includes all gods
icy veldt
Well yeah, but the circumstances that I'm referring to would include "most of the gods are already dead"
random mulch
how "alive" does something need to be for providence and does draedon count
would providence wipe out all viruses
split mortar
Considering she likely just uses her beliefs ti hurt others (doesnt suicide in embers)
Yeah prob gonna nuke draedon possibly
split mortar
would providence wipe out all viruses
Idk
icy veldt
I still want to know more about what it was in the past that made Providence want to wipe out all life
wanton pendant
She's allergic to squid.
split mortar
Embers hints at ml having done it iirc
split mortar
She's allergic to squid.
That explains everything
icy veldt
Embers hints at ml having done it iirc
Yeah I kinda remembered it was related to that, but I had forgotten that the source was specifically from Embers
split mortar
I thought she was purity and all
She “believes” life is worthless and is only pain and so goes around killing everyone
hallow cosmos
Well, to profane something is to "treat (something sacred) with irreverence or disrespect"
Before the gods, the Auric dragons reigned as the powerful, natural forces of the world.
By striking down the Auric dragon of flame, she metaphorically became the embodiment of profane-ness.
left rivet
She is emo
long bloom
I thought she was purity and all
her goal is to purify everything by killing all life
which is ostensibly evil
hallow cosmos
She is emo
yes.
split mortar
My jaw swung open when I realized what these were
They are linked in the qna of the intro lore doc
hallow cosmos
I've never read those
Everything I've gathered is from bestiary and item lores, etc
this is huge
split mortar
Do note only embers is made rn but as cal progresses stuff will stop having a premise and instead just exist
hallow cosmos
man
i think genuinely the most fascinating thing abotu this mod that i've read about in the lore
are the dragons
i wonder to what extent they held power over their dominion?
could they simply control matter? or could they make it, as well?
i'd assume they can
since providence herself can simply make flames
and that makes me also wonder
if they can control it, then could the dragon of flame simply snuff providence out?
pliant ruin
They don't have absolute and complete control over their domain
would be kinda overpowered
warm cape
dragons are op
hallow cosmos
its not like we'd ever get to fight the dragons, anyways
pliant ruin
Yeah and the story would kinda fall appart if they were that strong
hallow cosmos
thats true
split mortar
Tbf we dunno if thats providence making flames from nothing or via magic
but
Otonilou is why the sea prisms and thus the exo prisms make energy out of nothing, while we lack info on many exacts on auric and god domains we do know at least one domain can make energy out of nothing iirc
hallow cosmos
there'd be no way anyone couldve possibly kil them
split mortar
Moonlord nearly did
pliant ruin
Dragons varied alot in power but the absolute strongest one was Zeratros
Who is probably around a similar strenght to Yharim currently is
warm gull
zeratros was stronger than yharim currently is afaik
pliant ruin
A few more if you count non-auric ones
warm cape
One dragon
Sigh i already fought one...
warm gull
not by much but just a bit
split mortar
We wont fight another auric dragon thats kinda a big thing of yharon
pliant ruin
Idrm the specific disparity in their strenght but i do know they were pretty close iirc?
split mortar
Afaik theyre functionally equal
hallow cosmos
We wont fight another auric dragon thats kinda a big thing of yharon
shoot, lore makes me not want to fight them lol
pliant ruin
You get to fight one auric dragon and a few other dragons that were too late to the auric soul train
those being old duke, primordial wyrm and dragonfolly
warm cape
Losers basically
split mortar
shoot, lore makes me not want to fight them lol
Yharon will rebirth in a decade hes fine
And is also complacent with yharim having groomed a minor into nuking italy he aint a good person either
warm cape
Yharim did what
pliant ruin
though old duke and primordial wyrm in particular are just distant enough to not be auric dragons
if they had been born a little earlier
they'd have gottne souls
hallow cosmos
Yharim did what
google calamitas
pliant ruin
Yharim did what
Calamitas
warm cape
oh
hallow cosmos
holy brimstone
split mortar
Yharim did what
Calamitas
pliant ruin
Yeah Yharon is a pretty horrible person
And the Dragons weren't universally good
With that said
We do know they weren't all bad either
Some dragons were genuinely virtuous and altruistic protectors
split mortar
Vetrasyl iirc
pliant ruin
We don't know much about him as not much of his lore is ingame atn but from the little we know of Vetrasyl he was a very kind soul
warm cape
he was a dragon of what
split mortar
Storms
warm cape
funny
pliant ruin
Storms, absorbed by Otonilou who became the goddess of electricity
split mortar
Its offshoots are the wyverns and also was the protector of chrysadia or something iirc
split mortar
What even is the goal of the terrarian
dusk laurel
dont sau iot...
hallow cosmos
i feel like the dragons mostly were to serve as an example of how hypocritical the gods were
dusk laurel
NOOPOPOO
split mortar
Scoog are you alright
warm cape
Sucks
dusk laurel
Scoog are you alright
yes
warm cape
Wish there was something behind it
pliant ruin
i feel like the dragons mostly were to serve as an example of how hypocritical t...
Not quite tbh
warm cape
no im tesla
pliant ruin
melon stop rotting
warm cape
The terrarian is a little character ingame
hallow cosmos
simply destroy the entire sulphurous sea in a large world and you make them extinct
pliant ruin
The Terrarian is by nature a blank slate character and adding any sort of major lore to it would kinda go against the point
Specially because
long bloom
The terrarian is a little character ingame
they're you're oc
split mortar
Wish there was something behind it
Tbf how could they do that
You can do so much random stuff and just not do things how could they add much of a character
pliant ruin
Adding an actual "protagonist" figure would be creatively restraining and also just be really hard to pull off well
dusk laurel
simply destroy the entire sulphurous sea in a large world and you make them exti...
i have bad news for you
pliant ruin
It just don't really work in terraria's context
You'd have to make it a new game atp
hallow cosmos
The Terrarian is by nature a blank slate character and adding any sort of major ...
erm actually no because hes lidewally me
dusk laurel
i have bad news for you
only one of them lives there and the rest are literally untouchable by the player ingame because you will never see them
split mortar
Tbf *how* could they do that
You can do so much random stuff and just not do th...
Yharim seeing the terrarian pull up having not killed most bosses not even wof yet still defeated scal and exos
pliant ruin
Blatantly wrong, really
A big part of Calamity's narrative is that regardless of whether someone was a Dragon, or a God, or a Mortal
warm cape
Tbf *how* could they do that
You can do so much random stuff and just not do th...
Its not that difficult tho, the gods ruined my life or any other motive would suffice
pliant ruin
Judging their morality and nature based on just that is unfair and avoiding the nuance
warm cape
ig i can do that myself
pliant ruin
Its not that difficult tho, the gods ruined my life or any other motive would su...
Yeah you can
Do that yourself
warm cape
But little backstory aint bad
split mortar
Its not that difficult tho, the gods ruined my life or any other motive would su...
Yeah but also you can like
Avoid fighting any gods iirc
pliant ruin
Giving the terrarian an backstory would be a bad narrative decision
warm cape
I disagree
royal bluff
redrawn
split mortar
Yeah but also you can like
Avoid fighting *any* gods iirc
Slime god and providence and ravager are all completely optional
pliant ruin
There are several games out there that have blank slate protagonists btw so i really do not see what's the issue here
left rivet
I Will draw providence as emo now
pliant ruin
All dark souls protagonists are blank slate from the vague concept of
You're a undead thumbsup
warm cape
There are several games out there that have blank slate protagonists btw so i re...
I mean it aint a full on ISSUE
hallow cosmos
i meant xeroc lmao
warm cape
Just a thing
split mortar
Slime god and providence and ravager are all completely optional
Hell you could actively build shrines to gods if you wanna
warm cape
Hell you could actively build shrines to gods if you wanna
Which i do btw
slime god my goat
pliant ruin
It's not an issue at all and it'd literally make the story worse otherwise
Am i too evil
royal bluff
pliant ruin
maybe i am
pliant ruin
No i'm not evil enough
hallow cosmos
damn, didnt set in until just now, yharim's literal one goal, to kill all gods, was already in and of itself hypocritical, too
pliant ruin
It is yes
warm cape
kill them all mooncheese
pliant ruin
Yharim is the 2nd most evil character in the entire mod
He's not a good guy
At all
warm cape
Im top 1
pliant ruin
The dragons werel't all the good guys
The gods weren't all bad guys
Most gods Yharim killed didn't deserve it
And he went to extreme measures to kill them that were not justified in any way, shape or form
Shoutout to Illmeris
hallow cosmos
providence, for example, killed the dragon of flame for something that he did to harm her in the past. yharim is, by crusading with the goal in mind of killing providence, ironically doing the same thing that he condemned the gods for doing- avenging
split mortar
Any attempt to make the terrarian have a back story or character would either be not well fitting to gameplay and if they did somehow make it work then you got a diff game
Hell the terrarian can be pure neon cyan if you want
warm cape
Calamity a whole different game atp
pliant ruin
(Blow up a entire city, kill thousands of innocents including several children and families, destroy local ecosystem, all using the power of your Groomed Child Soldier, all because there were 2 gods in there. 2 Gods beloved by their people btw)
Calamity is really not a whole different game in fact its actually less vanilla divergent from alot of other mods nowadays
It just adds alot of content
warm cape
it adds a story upon a sandbox game
pliant ruin
It's still terraria
split mortar
Calamity a whole different game atp
No not really
By diff game i mean like much less sandbox features and much more rigid boss progression
Oh hey thats reign of yharim the calamity fan game lmao
split mortar
https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890
😭
dusk laurel
warm cape
No not really
By diff game i mean like much less sandbox features and much more...
Calamity dont contribute much to the sandbox stuff as far as i know
pliant ruin
It's not about contributing
It's the fact it just Is a sandbox
You cannot change that, fundamentally
warm cape
call it a boss rush game ngl
pliant ruin
it's still a sandbox
split mortar
Calamity dont contribute much to the sandbox stuff as far as i know
Yeah but still
You can build shrines to gods if your character is anti god
You can build yharim shrines if they were anti yharim
If theyre some middle ground you could build hyper extremist stuff for one side as well
And boss progression is a suggestion if you know what to do
warm cape
can we talk about the gods again
split mortar
call it a boss rush game ngl
Calamity is trying to become less of that
Providence has gay vibes
pliant ruin
cocaine
warm cape
🔥
dusk laurel
calamity adds so much onto it that it changes
i dont think thats how it works
warm cape
Who was the god that became the corruption
split mortar
100% confirmed
All the guardians are women iirc
split mortar
Who was the god that became the corruption
Dogma makes up hivemind but the corruption at large is possibly hundreds of dead gods
warm cape
oh
split mortar
War is for perfs
warm cape
i remember the lore piece saying that if you dont dispose of A god corpse its bad
pliant ruin
Hive Mind speciifcally has the God of Dogma as a major part of it and Perfs has the God of War
warm cape
Didnt know that it was a lot of gods
pliant ruin
Both being major figures in the God-Cult that wanted to make Yharim into their puppet king and some of the first gods yharim killed
long bloom
Didnt know that it was a lot of gods
low thousands probably
split mortar
Yeah thats cause crimson and corruption and hallowed happen over time
pliant ruin
Which does make it super anticlimatic that theyre early pre hardmode bosses
But its ok guys tier shift will save us
warm cape
Yharim is a manhwa protagonist
split mortar
low thousands probably
Low thousands for a single evil biome i doubt
Yharim is super golden hitler
pliant ruin
Low thousands for a single evil biome feels like way too much i think yea
long bloom
Low thousands for a single evil biome i doubt
they said "didn't know there were that many gods"
pliant ruin
oh wait
long bloom
my answer was the total
split mortar
they said "didn't know there were that many gods"
Oh wait you meant for all gods
Yeah
Low thousands seems the number
warm cape
But its ok guys tier shift will save us
Huh
long bloom
evil2 dragonfolly swap
dusk laurel
save us post ml evil2s
warm cape
Thank blob bro i hated how dragonfolly didnt look like a post hardmode boss
split mortar
Perfs and hivemind are switching with folly
Which i like cause evil 2s lore has the vibes of a post ml boss and folly a pre hardmode boss
warm cape
Trve
split mortar
The gods that pushed yharim down this very path and decades later sfter being killed are crawling back to “life”
Vs
Random dragon offshoot we dont even know which one they originate from
visual kiln
post ml evil 2
pliant ruin
dragonfolly being post ml was such a narrative mess too 😭
Like
You're telling me there's a whole ass species of draconic offshoots that fill a seemingly fairly mundane role in a ecosystem that are just casually nearly as strong as providence
pliant ruin
Later on there was a bit of a bandaid fix done by making the Dragonfolly you fight a particularly strong one but it still felt
well
very bandaid lmao
split mortar
There was no indication folly was even above average for its species no?
So the jungle was infested with post ml hyper aggressive birds
pliant ruin
And yes i know Dragonfolly is a magic dragon guy
That's not what i mean by "mundane role"
cloud ibex
the putrid morass of the god-cult that sparked Yharim's obsessive hatred of any and all gods, mixed with several other god corpses, desperately trying to claw themselves together into a coherent approximation of their original selves
vs Big Bird
pliant ruin
regardless of magic powers they were seemingly still just filling the niche of an animal in a ecosystem the same way as real aninmals do, magic sin't a factor on this becasue if Magic Exists then Mundane Animals will have Magic
eager bluff
vs Big Bird
its not big bird its bigger bird
long bloom
vs Big Bird
what if dragonfolly exploded in the challenger disaster
eager bluff
biggest bird is yharon
pliant ruin
if dragonfolly is bigger bird whos the big bird
cloud ibex
what would big bird be then
pliant ruin
i dont recall any other bird bosses
dusk laurel
mega mammoth dragon
cloud ibex
Tetanus joe is typing.
check your blood
warm cape
vs Big Bird
visual kiln
You're telling me there's a whole ass species of draconic offshoots that fill a ...
yes
warm cape
vs what
cloud ibex
you know what
pliant ruin
ykw fair enough
cloud ibex
fair enough
split mortar
Harpy
pliant ruin
lmao
warm cape
what about a punishing bird
visual kiln
they could've made dragonfolly like
warm cape
visual kiln
an ancient vers
visual kiln
like how old duke and prim wyrm r the oldest of their species
pliant ruin
i hope this bird dosen't judge me!
pliant ruin
an ancient vers
Could have and they kind of did
warm cape
👀
visual kiln
@pliant ruin judges u
pliant ruin
But it did feel like a bandaid fix like i said
warm cape
<@1039460813490102293> judges u
apocalypse has started
cloud ibex
now that i think about it even if folly wasn't reworked the tiershift would end up being an example of that thing some games do where an early boss becomes a miniboss/normal enemy later on
visual kiln
im god i will judge everyone
pliant ruin
It's nice having an early introduction to a dragon boss in cal anyways
Makes it so both gods and dragons get their first representative not too far from eachother
dusk laurel
dragonfolly name actually makes sense now since their behavior probably was looked down upon by the auric dragons
cloud ibex
like what dark souls does with the taurus and capra demon
pliant ruin
(Dragonfolly late pre hm, slime god early pre hm)
left rivet
im god i will judge everyone
Bro is a deity
split mortar
im god i will judge everyone
Whats my judgement
warm cape
Dragonfolly better not pull some quick moves on my fledgling wings ahhh
pliant ruin
they literally are dragon racoons actually youre right
cloud ibex
no
warm cape
no²
pliant ruin
thanks tetanus joe
dusk laurel
feasting off of dead auric dragon's bodies or any essence they left behind in general
left rivet
Anyways can someone give me the doc
cloud ibex
pins
visual kiln
tetanus joe
pliant ruin
pins, both of em
split mortar
Oh goupert funckerdinkle is now tetaneus joes
dusk laurel
Anyways can someone give me the doc
cloud ibex
Oh goupert funckerdinkle is now tetaneus joes
check your bloodstream
split mortar
WDYM THREE DOCS
pliant ruin
the three docs duh
warm cape
1 2 and 3
split mortar
pliant ruin
yep
warm cape
The number that comes after 2
pliant ruin
thats all you gotta know
visual kiln
theres 2
split mortar
Zero from kirby vs all of calamity
dusk laurel
auric armor
split mortar
What armor he using
Auric with exo tech upgrades
warm cape
what a loser
warm cape
It better be
split mortar
what a loser
Yharims armour is arguably stronger then what demonshade will be
left rivet
Can i be a lore artist or something like that
warm cape
Yharims armour is arguably stronger then what demonshade will be
No he a loser
pliant ruin
I mean he IS a pretty big loser
long bloom
Can i be a lore artist or something like that
you mean concept artist?
left rivet
Yes
warm cape
Mine has a demon that flies around
split mortar
Yharim has aura he does things like gaslight gatekeep girlboss idk what im saying
visual kiln
Can i be a lore artist or something like that
what art do u make
left rivet
But uh lore
warm cape
and when i press Y people turn red
pliant ruin
If caldev decides your art is impressive enough then maybe they'll abduct you
split mortar
Mine has a demon that flies around
His generates endless energy
pliant ruin
There's already two concept artists in the team i know of
left rivet
I Made My profile picture
split mortar
Someone post silva
left rivet
Let me read the doc and then i Will draw
visual kiln
dm me art u've made im interested
split mortar
dusk laurel
melon gun ADD MY SOURCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
left rivet
dm me art u've made im interested
Im not a SO GOOD artist so down You expectations
visual kiln
oh
split mortar
melon gun ADD MY SOURCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nearly midnight
-# genuinely sorry my motivation to do things has been all over the place since day before halloween
left rivet
Is that silva
cloud ibex
yes
split mortar
Is that silva
Post ascension
cloud ibex
(post ascension)
left rivet
Isnt silva they deity that died on abyss
cloud ibex
(pre yharim tossing her in the woodchipper)
long bloom
yeah
left rivet
The one that made they abyss or somethin
long bloom
no
split mortar
Isnt silva they deity that died on abyss
Yeah
The green blob is her healing pod
dusk laurel
no one made the abyss
cloud ibex
well, the last image is after the woodchipper but yknow
left rivet
I Made they abyss
dusk laurel
its a natural geologic formation (damn you terraria world gen)
visual kiln
i made everything
dusk laurel
no
visual kiln
yes
left rivet
Oh my
split mortar
How far does xeroc get in the kirby verse
pliant ruin
Honestly i think probably pretty far ngl
Kirby verse isn't as strong as people think it is
dusk laurel
^
split mortar
Afaik its like mainly final bosses that have glupshitto stuff
pliant ruin
Like kirby's reputation i think is almost entirely due to "haha guys look funny pink ball that fights gods in the end!"
rather than any actual concrete lore reasons for why its so cosmically comically powerful or w/e
dusk laurel
like kirby cant just snap his fingers and everything dies
pliant ruin
yeah kirby can still die
and lose fights
he ahd to be saved
by both king dedede and meta knight before
split mortar
And needed help to defeat void termina iirc
Since summons the power of friendship at the end iirc
pliant ruin
literally
abstract hedge
Isnt silva they deity that died on abyss
She's not actually dead (she's an elemental so she can't die until her element does, in her case being every living thing on the planet), but she's very weak and in a healing pod.
split mortar
I dont think xeroc beats kirby tho
eager bluff
i think xeroc beats kirby
left rivet
Wait there are 5 elements???
dusk laurel
yes
eager bluff
i think xeroc beats kirby
1 on 1 just kirby vs xeroc id give the dub to xeroc
split mortar
Wait there are 5 elements???
Earth (sand)
Air (cloud)
Fire/heat (brimmy)
Water (anahita)
Nature (silva)
left rivet
Oh yeah
Fire, air, earth, water and sand.
eager bluff
nope
pliant ruin
no genuinely i think xeroc would beat kirby
split mortar
Sand is the earth elemental
eager bluff
sand is part of earth elemental
left rivet
Like dried or?
split mortar
The earth elemental enemy is a fake made by azafure
eager bluff
sand is part of earth elemental
not the whole thing but part of it
pliant ruin
The elements can take different forms based on their enviroment
Ex: Ice Elementals are just a subtype of Water Elemental
pliant ruin
Sand Elementals are a subtype of Earth Elemental
left rivet
And why elements are girls
eager bluff
what are chaos elementals subtypes of
split mortar
Fabsol
left rivet
And not dragons
pliant ruin
Not all of them
eager bluff
And why elements are girls
horny
split mortar
And not dragons
Because they arent dragons
pliant ruin
He was a freaky ass gooner
dusk laurel
heat (main incarnation being brimmy)
air (incarnation seen ingame is cloud)
water (main incarnation is anahita, ice elemental is a minor incarnation)
earth (incarnation seen ingame is sand)
natire elemental (silva.)
split mortar
They arent auric either
pliant ruin
Future elemental redesigns change it around
left rivet
But wyvern is a dragon
pliant ruin
Anahita, Brimmy and Silva will remain as women
left rivet
And is not auric
eager bluff
But wyvern is a dragon
yeah
pliant ruin
what does the wyvern have to do with any of this
split mortar
But wyvern is a dragon
Wyvern is not an elemental
dusk laurel
not all dragons are auric
split mortar
Cloud elemental is the air elemental
dusk laurel
only ones with auric souls were auric
left rivet
I want elemental dragons
split mortar
Wyverns are a vetrasyl offshoot
eager bluff
elementals are pretty much fundamental forces
dusk laurel
you already have elemental dragons 😭
left rivet
Do we?
pliant ruin
incomprehensible
left rivet
Wait do i?
pliant ruin
incomprehensible
split mortar
Whatever made tyrian
Flame dragon
Storm dragon
dusk laurel
we have flame, frost, storm, tides
left rivet
Let me look at My pet lizard
pliant ruin
they're dead
left rivet
Duke fishron
split mortar
Whatever made tyrian
Flame dragon
Storm dragon
They arent elementals (elementals predate dragons) but they are element based
eager bluff
we have flame, frost, storm, tides
frost is non canon isnt it bc mmd addon
left rivet
AM i cannon
pliant ruin
It's just the MMD lore that isnt canon
split mortar
Duke fishron
Not even auric
dusk laurel
its canon but its dead
split mortar
AM i cannon
Terrarian is you
dusk laurel
mmd addon on the other hand isnt
left rivet
M-me?
eager bluff
melongun image
left rivet
Am i they chosen one
split mortar
i hate this chat rn it sucks
:calg:
left rivet
split mortar
Am i they chosen one
left rivet
I chose pikachu
Anyways sorry i cant keep a conversation
Silva is the nature elemental right
And why is they sand elemental earth elemental?
split mortar
Silva is the nature elemental right
Yeah
split mortar
And why is they sand elemental earth elemental?
Sand made of rocks
split mortar
What does the guy even do other then ambiently float towards you
eager bluff
shoots tiny ass rock projectiles
split mortar
😭
left rivet
Anyways uh i can't Open doc
split mortar
This doc?
left rivet
Yes
dusk laurel
huh weird
limpid saddle
can someone post 'tomorrows another day' i need the image for something
dusk laurel
thats weird the access hasnt changed
dusk laurel
Everytime i See it i feel its presence
its gonna be redesigned and renamed eventually
split mortar
Such is the fate of everything in calamity
left rivet
Thats good i think?
left rivet
They problem is no update for now
limpid saddle
What does the guy even do other then ambiently float towards you
well he's very good at jumpscaring you
left rivet
Is not like i can play since i dont have a good pc
dusk laurel
whenever i see earth elemental all i feel is disappointment
split mortar
They problem is no update for now
Thats cause scope creep
Update has reworked like over 1/6 of the weapons iirc
young socket
Thats cause scope creep
Update has reworked like over 1/6 of the weapons iirc
1/7th
left rivet
Godd it will look beautiful
left rivet
Im so hyped for DoG resprite
dusk laurel
left rivet
Will it change lore
dusk laurel
read my document...
left rivet
What
split mortar
Will it change lore
#spoilers messageheres a sneak of dog visual change
limpid saddle
why would dogs lore change?
basically dev statements are just being put in the game
left rivet
why would dogs lore change?
Bro is biggee
left rivet
https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/711268703991365642/1350281767558...
Goddamn he looks lovable
cosmic minnow
Chungus
split mortar
Bro is biggee
Yeah but nothing of dogs lore says they need to be smol
dusk laurel
his lore wont change he always was gonna be big...
left rivet
Is lovable a word
cosmic minnow
Yes
split mortar
If anything it fits lore better dog is like
Giant
And can devour things
split mortar
Sarenio vs the endless march of time
left rivet
Now make eater off worlds devour worlds
cosmic minnow
Sarenio vs the endless march of time
sarenio is immortal
Elementals don’t just die
split mortar
Now make eater off worlds devour worlds
Thats canonically a not real title
Also a mod lets em break blocks iirc
split mortar
sarenio is immortal
As long as the planet exists
cosmic minnow
Thats canonically a not real title
Also a mod lets em break blocks iirc
That sounds like hell
limpid saddle
i gotta go to sleep but heres an omnious & evil calclone wip
dusk laurel
eater of worlds is the commoner name for it
limpid saddle
love you lorechat
cosmic minnow
As long as the planet exists
They got enough souls to sustain their existence assuming the planet is gone
pliant ruin
i gotta go to sleep but heres an omnious & evil calclone wip
awesome
split mortar
They got enough souls to sustain their existence assuming the planet is gone
Yeah but for how long
dusk laurel
i gotta go to sleep but heres an omnious & evil calclone wip
good
continue
feed, grow, metamorphosize
pliant ruin
stop roleplay loring in the calamity mod discord lore channel
split mortar
Any loss will over time guarantee sarenio eventually fades away
left rivet
Metamorphosis
pliant ruin
we had a whole ass announccement about this
left rivet
Bye bye!
cosmic minnow
stop roleplay loring in the calamity mod discord lore channel
Melon started this
split mortar
stop roleplay loring in the calamity mod discord lore channel
Sarenio is just the guys own OC im not on about rp
cosmic minnow
Yea
left rivet
I like potatos
pliant ruin
me too
left rivet
Yey
cosmic minnow
Potatoes are awesome
split mortar
irrelevant
Dont see how
left rivet
True
pliant ruin
its the same shit
cosmic minnow
dawg melon
split mortar
Potatoes are awesome
True
dusk laurel
roleplay lore discussion again 
split mortar
im not on about the rp
left rivet
Yharim and draedon kiss
split mortar
Yharim and draedon kiss
true
pliant ruin
going on about fanfiction lore in the lore discussion channel in the calamity mod main discord derailing actual lore conversations and confusing people who have no idea what you're talking about
same shit different ass
pliant ruin
i think dont starve hell changed me man
left rivet
So no yharim x draedon right
left rivet
):
pliant ruin
usual im only a little bit evil right now im like full evil
left rivet
Im new here
split mortar
going on about fanfiction lore in the lore discussion channel in the calamity mo...
Ok that explaination is fair my bad
left rivet
Wait if i make concept can i send it here
split mortar
Fanart allowed here
pliant ruin
U can send art here if you want as long as it's contextually appropriate i think
Case in point
john calamitas clone (ggg) posted osme of his clone art right up there
left rivet
I don't draw nsfw
split mortar
Nsfw was not mentioned
left rivet
But is innapropiate
split mortar
Inappropriate in that context meant stuff like non cal related art
left rivet
Oh yeah
split mortar
Its not just nsfw
pliant ruin
dusk laurel
pliant ruin
User i'm gonna be very blunt here you're extremely incomprehensible right now 😭
yes it is
split mortar
So is crabulon getting a resprite i forgor to ask
Is a cal boss so yea
limpid saddle
john calamitas clone (ggg) posted osme of his clone art right up there
guh sorry rose from my bed at the mention of calamitas clone go on
pliant ruin
all bosses are unless stated otherwise
dusk laurel
oh my god
left rivet
Can i send a crabulon drawing i made
split mortar
Is a cal boss so yea
Other then provi, exos and levi all cal bosses will likely get one
magic epoch
guh sorry rose from my bed at the mention of calamitas clone go on
i think they like calclone
pliant ruin
ggg is john calclone
eager bluff
Other then provi, exos and levi all cal bosses will likely get one
scal i dont think is getting one
pliant ruin
thats his blorbo
scal is like the one boss that's probably actually just straight up not getting a resprite
exos, provi and levi are more of a
split mortar
scal i dont think is getting one
Scal got one recently as an npc
pliant ruin
"if devs COULD they might but way too much damn effort so most likely not"
Or well
Levi and Prov are that
Exos are a even further separate boat of
stoic gulch
Yeah and they’re all pretty iconic
eager bluff
exos are more "they're good enough by modern standards and for what they are thematically"
limpid saddle
thats his blorbo
the term blorbo makes me want to throttle someone but sure
stoic gulch
But fr how big is the provi sprite even
pliant ruin
"Their sprites are very good and the best execution of their idea but their idea is kinda boring so some people think they could be more interesting if they were different but itd require entirely changing what exos even are as a boss and also it'd be a shit ton of work since its 4 fucking huge sprites"
magic epoch
But fr how big is the provi sprite even
Smaller than your m
pliant ruin
Calamitas is the only boss where i think theres like
stoic gulch
True my m is very small
pliant ruin
genuinely no reason to change her sprite
stoic gulch
It’s extra lowercase
pliant ruin
Like she's perfect as is really
eager bluff
But fr how big is the provi sprite even
large. very large.
pliant ruin
wow guys cheese saying calamitas is perfect as is
call that uh
egocentrism?
word
that
dusk laurel
i dont get the argument that her head's perspective is weird because all terraria npc bodies are angled too
young socket
narcissist
left rivet
Crab
split mortar
Carbs
pliant ruin
crab
left rivet
He is just like me fr
split mortar
wow guys cheese saying calamitas is perfect as is
Narcissist
eager bluff
large. very large.
even the current sprite has a bunch of big empty/less detailed space as part of the wings and i cant imagine how much time animating it took off the animators lifespan
dusk laurel
i dont get the argument that her head's perspective is weird because all terrari...
and also calamity is a mod for terraria they dont HAVE to follow literally every precedent vanilla has
pliant ruin
Narcissist
madeline reference
left rivet
Also i Made yharon the new design (i think is now discarded)
pliant ruin
and also calamity is a mod for terraria they dont HAVE to follow literally every...
I can see the argument for it being incosistent with vanilal but like
vanilla art consistency is something calamity will never achieve
dusk laurel
yah
pliant ruin
I think calamity sprites should be judged for what they actually are in that case
eager bluff
vanilla art consistency is like that because vanilla has like 2 spriters
pliant ruin
😭
I meann
to be fair
even with multiple artists
you can make stuff consistent
establsihing a style and enforcing it
Thing is
its impossible for calamity
split mortar
establsihing a style and enforcing it
Roy does rhis
eager bluff
THE ULTIMATE CALAMITY STYLE
pliant ruin
THE ULTIMATE CALAMITY STYLE
Kills You
split mortar
RoY propaganda
dusk laurel
hrrng cheese you know about necromancy annd brimstone magic having connections right
dusk laurel
split mortar
hrrng cheese you know about necromancy annd brimstone magic having connections r...
Fucking finally others see theres connection
pliant ruin
a bunch of undead enemies having ties with brimstone (ravager, crags guys, i think timeless shores enemies too maybe,,, ??? to some extnet)
eager bluff
its because of the bones it all comes from the bones
dusk laurel
melon gun you said this earlier this week
split mortar
I know
dusk laurel
also you never even mentioned it once
left rivet
Wait what was ravager rework again
eager bluff
its because of the bones it all comes from the bones
what is better for having really strong magical fire than having a whole lot of bone mana to draw from
dusk laurel
flesh gorilla zombie
pliant ruin
deploy the ape
left rivet
Wdym gorila
dusk laurel
read my document
split mortar
also you never even mentioned it once
I have
Mainly when others questioned scal being good at necromancy instead of making a big wall of theory about it
eager bluff
i dont have the gorilla but i have the gay one
pliant ruin
Gorilla
dusk laurel
no
left rivet
Balduzer
dusk laurel
thats braelor
split mortar
Braelor
left rivet
Who was him
split mortar
Gay man
left rivet
Why
pliant ruin
Read My Docs
dusk laurel
READ
pliant ruin
They are in Pinned Messages Read Them
eager bluff
:answermymessages:
pliant ruin
Braelor is one of the two legendary heroes that almost killed Yharim
left rivet
Is he in love with signus
split mortar
No
Statis
left rivet
Is that cannon
pliant ruin
yes
split mortar
Yea
dusk laurel
yes
left rivet
Oh my
pliant ruin
statis and braelor r literally dating
split mortar
Slime god is genderfluid
left rivet
Slime/god
pliant ruin
they almost killed Yharim together
split mortar
Yharim loses to the gays
pliant ruin
but then got ambushed by DoG and sent into the distortion
eager bluff
then The Worm.
left rivet
With power of love or friendship
eager bluff
with the power of beating people to death
left rivet
with the power of beating people to death
😦
left rivet
So yharim loose there
pliant ruin
Statis is less beat people to death and more provide backup support to Braelor so he can then beat said people to death
Yes, he almost lost
split mortar
The worm saved yharims life
pliant ruin
He would've lost if it wasn't for DoG
split mortar
The worm the worm the worm worm worm worm woem worm worm worm
pliant ruin
Statis and Braelor will both be wandering quest npcs later
left rivet
What was signus rework again?
pliant ruin
the docs
eager bluff
read my documents
left rivet
):
pliant ruin
look man its extremely acessible information that you can easily get to in like 2 clicks
pliant ruin
why not
left rivet
Idk
dusk laurel
pliant ruin
dusk laurel
im watching
split mortar
Gain your first single literacy point and read
dusk laurel
pass my ultimate calamity literacy test
left rivet
I wont read they whole recipe for ark of the cosmos
split mortar
Im getting bullied
I ate a pencil earlier today im not the brightest either
left rivet
Yummy
split mortar
Good thing thats not in the docs
eager bluff
melon you dont admit that out loud you're making it worse
left rivet
split mortar
I hold no shame and was just trying to make the person know other dumbasses exist here
Its nearly 1 am am i making sense i should sleep
pliant ruin
I hold no shame and was just trying to make the person know other dumbasses exis...
go to sleep
before you become as incomprehensible as this guy
split mortar
Can my cats stop fighting
south dome
do you think yharim would be friends with Darth Vader?
left rivet
Ye
royal bluff
Can my cats stop fighting
bro same
left rivet
Ok so uh scal was the one who destroyed azafure or was yharim
And did yharim had yharon at that time
calm patio
it was scal who fought brimmy that destroyed azafure
cloud ibex
And did yharim had yharon at that time
yharim has "had" yharon ever since the start of the crusade
the whole reason it started in the first place was that yharim refused to absorb yharon's soul, they both got tossed in lava, and yharon pulled them both out of there
left rivet
oh yeah i forgor
abstract hedge
Ok so uh scal was the one who destroyed azafure or was yharim
Calamitas kinda did cause she was fighting the brimstone elemental there but it's not her fault cause it was the one destroying the city. Yharim hadn't "enlisted" calamitas by then.
feral skiff
how did a literal child win against an elemental???
long bloom
how did a literal child win against an elemental???
probably absorbed some of her power
pseudo roost
how did a literal child win against an elemental???
built different
pseudo roost
probably absorbed some of her power
in all seriousness tho it says in the docs that this is sort of what happened, she got her brimstone powers at the same time brimstone elemental woke up so there's assumedly some connection
as for why she got them or why they're so goddamn powerful i don't think there's really an answer for that yet
limber sail
long bloom
as for why she got them or why they're so goddamn powerful i don't think there's...
why: brimmy was destroying everything, cal wanted to do something
why powerful: bc brimmy was way more powerful than she is now, also tons of training
visual kiln
So uh did yharim do anything
commit my genocides yharim 🐘
pulsar ocean
does dog have lungs and vocal cords to scream at us during the battle
or its like a telepathic scream
left rivet
A bit of both i suppose
hybrid barn
I think he's able to make sounds, but he doesn't have the mouth structure needed to actually say words, so it's more like Yharon
fleet wedge
"Fapsol" 
cloud ibex
I thought it was the other way around
We don’t really know
The whole fucking up the crags thing definitely seems to indicate she’s a dickhead (as does her being an elemental since minus Silva they seem to all be dickheads)
But the way she’s described in… I think it was her bestiary? As well as how some of the devs have talked about her does to me indicate there’s something more to it
split mortar
Idk how relaible it is but doesnt the boss despawn message also say shes sad or something
cloud ibex
Well the boss despawn messages are added by cal but I don’t know how old they are
feral skiff
Idk how relaible it is but doesnt the boss despawn message also say shes sad or ...
Why So Sad?
young socket
Well the boss despawn messages are added by cal but I don’t know how old they ar...
they were all rewritten for new lore
long bloom
does dog have lungs and vocal cords to scream at us during the battle
dragons cannot speak human languages
long bloom
you appear to be correct
even so, dog cannot speak human languages either
the prevailing theory on how he communicates is via brainblast
cosmic minnow
Brainrot. since DoG only spouts cocky crap
split mortar
DoGs ego vs kaprysny
long bloom
DoGs ego vs kaprysny
MELON
CST RENAMED
dusk laurel
WHasyqchuiwefhrwiu
split mortar
MELON
CST RENAMED
Hxbus evdjd
cosmic minnow
DoGs ego vs kaprysny
I low diff
feral skiff
Ao Oni vs Devourer of Gods, who wins?
(actually don't answer this im very good at asking stupid questions)
split mortar
Ao Oni vs Devourer of Gods, who wins?
Idk who ao oni is
limpid saddle
calclone wip but slightly less wip
pliant ruin
awesome
astral coyote
Is calamitas human?
fleet wedge
I mean
astral coyote
Is she azafurian
fleet wedge
More or less
split mortar
Is calamitas human?
Yes
split mortar
Is she azafurian
Yes
astral coyote
Mkayy
split mortar
Oh do we know anything about calclones rework?
Afaik not really
Other then losing the old eye sprite?
astral coyote
Alrighty
The clone was created by draedon right for yharim?
Or was yharim not about that
cloud ibex
iirc it was initially by yharim's request, though yharim didn't specifically ask for a clone he just wanted him to "replicate her power"
split mortar
Yharim asked for draedon to replicate scals power
Draedon and yharim departed eachother
Draedon still tried to replicate her power… by replicating her
astral coyote
Oh and then he was like ew dude what
split mortar
Yharim asked for draedon to replicate scals power
Draedon and yharim departed ea...
Thats the course of events i think
astral coyote
Huh okie
cloud ibex
also by the time he actually got around to making the clone yharim had already dismissed him on account of the pbg thing
split mortar
Yharim didnt really know clone existed till our fight iirc
Competitive slavery does not pass yharims vibe check
astral coyote
Draedon seems pretty chill except for the morally questionable science
split mortar
Draedon cant perceive morality so that makes sense
cloud ibex
he is kinda incapable of ever being not chill
astral coyote
He's jus a lil robot man that came to life
cloud ibex
the most heated he ever gets is when he calls your names for the normal mechs and miracle matter stupid
astral coyote
Lol
cloud ibex
and even then in the case of the latter it's just "that name sucks ass but you invented it so i can't really argue"
cloud ibex
probably some shit like thaumaturgic resonant exo alloy