lore-discussion

[north root]

calamitas clone on the other hand

[wanton pendant]

Ban?

[magic epoch]

???? what

why is this illegal

sorry

[north root]

permaban forever?

[tropic oak]

hi

[wanton pendant]

We're banning people.

[magic epoch]

aorry

ijsory

[hard latch]

f you mean she's a girl failure, it wasn't even her choice to experience all the trauma and manipulation she went trough, she's not '' :c im shy uwu'' shes a depressed woman who just wants a rest and deserves SOME FUCKING LOVE AND COMPREHENSION

[north root]

calamitas clone is a girlfailure because she

1. has nowhere near as much ptsd as calamitas
2. gets her entire freedom for free no strings attached

also she doesn't have draedon stalking her everywhere

[hard latch]

• probably doesn't shower

[magic epoch]

ish khld mwva now

[wanton pendant]

Probably?

[north root]

tis okay amethyst, we are all girlfailures here

[hard latch]

i mean, the clone is inside the eye thing

for how long?

[wanton pendant]

Eye thing isn't canon, that's an excuse.

[north root]

what about when it rains

[hard latch]

oh so the clone is ACTUALLY the eye thing?

[wanton pendant]

No.

She's a woman.

[hard latch]

im confused

explain

pls

[wanton pendant]

The current sprite is outdated.

[north root]

the clone is inside the eye thing, but according to canon she shouldn't be

[wanton pendant]

When they update it she won't be in the eye.

Since the eye has no reason to exist.

[north root]

but until the sprite gets updated the clone is inside the eye thing

[wanton pendant]

Like, who made it and why?

[hard latch]

so it will be like the infernum one?

[long bloom]

yeah

[north root]

retinazer will never stop being relevant

[wanton pendant]

Infernum's design took artistic liberties but is closer to what is assumed to be the final version.

[north root]

retinazer will never die

[hard latch]

i watched a video about that wich said that draedon put the clone into the eye thing cus it was really aggresive and mindless so he used the eye to control it

[wanton pendant]

I think that's old lore.

[north root]

kinda crazy how calamitas is retinazer and DoG is destroyer but skeletron prime is nobody

[hard latch]

ares

[north root]

unless... skeletron prime... is YOU

[long bloom]

fogbound

[north root]

i mean like in super super old calamity

like original sprites

[hard latch]

ah

yharon?

[long bloom]

pbg was literally just queen bee but green

zero other changes

just green

[north root]

first draft calamitas was just retinazer but more red

[hard latch]

and cooler

[wanton pendant]

Still there.

[north root]

first draft dog was just destroyer but purple

[hard latch]

aaaaand, D I A G O N AL

[north root]

first draft providence was kinda skeletron prime if you think about it

[hard latch]

i mean

kinda?

if you squint your eyes

maybe i can see a skull

[north root]

fun fact fabsol unintentionally made providence trans

[wanton pendant]

Oh yeah that did happen.

[north root]

from profaned god to profaned goddess

an inspiration to our time

[sinful adder]

This is sad. The eye should be the cloning machine that she is on life support in. Kinda like that guy from earthbound

the eye is iconic

[long bloom]

it's iconic and dumb

[wanton pendant]

Porky? It's not even Earthbound by that point.
And how would she get ahold of a life support system?

[tropic oak]

ok im bakc

[sinful adder]

I think its alright

[north root]

the eye is iconic and beautiful

[wanton pendant]

I doubt Calamitas would know how to hook her up to one.

[tropic oak]

added aureus art 2 the doc

[sinful adder]

she was cloned in it

[wanton pendant]

That's a massive stretch.

Call it Mr. Fantastic.

[sinful adder]

she's carrying it around with magic

[north root]

no not really

[long bloom]

i can supply more art if you'd like

by finding it not making it

[tropic oak]

with permission from said artists?

[wanton pendant]

We try to be pacifists here.

[tropic oak]

passSomeFists

[long bloom]

that complicates things

[north root]

xzier tengal the art stealer

[wanton pendant]

By doing it the nice way.

[sinful adder]

like imagine original cal comes and breaks her out, and she drags the eye-machine-bed with her via her newfound magic

[tropic oak]

then no go blow up smh

[wanton pendant]

And why would her cloning vat be an eye and also just the thing needed to stop her brimstone powers from killing her?

[north root]

sadly this is good storytelling also known as Hype Moments and Aura

[sinful adder]

yeah

[versed jay]

Why the fuck is ceaseless void the way he is?

[wanton pendant]

Portal.

[north root]

calamity writers are allergic to Hype Moments and Aura

[long bloom]

porbal

[north root]

hole

[versed jay]

It appear out of nowhere or it's just "a door"

[wanton pendant]

'Someone' made it.

[north root]

it's a hole to the distortion

[wanton pendant]

(Noxus, probably.)

[north root]

you can't go in because you don't have the Invitation to the Devourer of Gods' Frat Party lore/utility item

[wanton pendant]

You can't just go in without being invited, it's bad manners.

[north root]

(drops from ascended storm weaver in SSO 3, out in the next trillion years hopefully)

[versed jay]

Well uh there is concept for entire rework for ceaseless

[wanton pendant]

Yeah but that doesn't affect the lore.

[versed jay]

And also why the heck did storm weaver eat harpy in infernum? Is he a hungry fucker or just love killing shit?

[long bloom]

nom

[wanton pendant]

Infernum's not canon.

Storm Weaver eats Wyverns.

[north root]

hunger ( #calamity-addon-talk )

[versed jay]

Kk

[north root]

if i eat a chicken nugget does that mean i am forbidden from ever eating steak

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[north root]

unlike you, storm weaver has a balanced diet

[versed jay]

Fr balance

[frosty charm]

I imagine they're the apex predator of whatever's up there

[wanton pendant]

Invasive species.

[pastel bay]

I bet storm weaver tastes like beets

[north root]

storm weaver tastes like electrocuting your tongue and then eating ten pounds of caviar

[versed jay]

So it's basically just an electric eel then

[north root]

it's dry caviar though. and a dry electric shock

[versed jay]

Electrified Gatorade?

[north root]

dry gatorade

[pastel bay]

Exactly like beets

[pearl halo]

did somebody say lore

[pastel bay]

No but its the general theme here sometimes

[pearl halo]

oh...

[tropic oak]

did somebody say lore

[pearl halo]

not yet, sorry

[tropic oak]

am, man...

[magic epoch]

lore

[pearl halo]

@tropic oak

somebody finally said lore

[tropic oak]

finally.

[north root]

dm me if anyone ever says lore

we take these kinds of offenses very seriously

[untold forge]

Hey uh... Does anyone have any of that lore?

[north root]

very disappointed in this channel, nobody dm'd me

[north root]

come back next year

[untold forge]

are you a cop?

[north root]

we'll have lore next year

[hoary cape]

Lore

[limpid saddle]

checked the chat & started scrolling by saw the word clone & it activated my neurons

im very sad i missed this

[north root]

thank you people who eventually dm'd me, it was a very serious offense after all

[visual kiln]

Lore

[split mortar]

Does it exist

[visual kiln]

Lea channel ecosystem

[visual kiln]

Maybe

[pearl halo]

how many Lea channel's are out there

[visual kiln]

20

Exact number

[pearl halo]

@split mortar is that true?

[visual kiln]

Plpl

[pearl halo]

we need to check

[split mortar]

Theres 1 lea channel tge others are rp hubs :/

[visual kiln]

Chrck again

[split mortar]

Still rp hubs

[fleet wedge]

Goober

[frosty charm]

Me when my terrarian oc is about to lose a powerscaling debate but I remember that the terrarians lore is up to me so now they're a boundless concept beyond fiction

[fleet wedge]

[visual kiln]

Melon gun ecosystem where instead of eatinf each other for nutrients the chain is defined by who ur lore is up to

[fleet wedge]

No, but Storm Weaver would

[wanton pendant]

Calculator won't open, is there a lore reason?

[split mortar]

Gay

[wanton pendant]

That's gay.

[fleet wedge]

Wait, there are different themes for the pillars?
Or like, remixes of the same theme?

[real glen]

remix of the same theme
for example
Solar is electric guitar

I think showing this will be good

[fleet wedge]

I bet calclone would be a fan
(I mean, she potentially gets one of these mass produced angles as the constructs replacement for her)
(Also, the Profaned Guardians also have plans for a redesign inspired by the Evangelion angles so do with that info what you will )

[wanton pendant]

Angles?

Do you mean angels? I'm not well versed on Evangelion.... or know anything about it really.

[fleet wedge]

You should add it as a vanity item (like the thorium cube) in the cave laboratory

Pretty sure that's from Thorium

Wait fr?

By the way, speaking of sunken sea overriding jungle, something funny just happened to me

[fleet wedge]

The world I'm currently playing in has sunken sea overlapping with the jungle
And the jungle temple is in the part that overlaps

And I'm pretty sure the vernal pass has also spawned below the temple in this one

[split mortar]

@wanton pendant a question for you
“Is there any side stories or anything about calamity”
-# no shut up this isnt just to get embers on the doc >:(

[wanton pendant]

You know if you wanted to you could put it in the FAQ yourself. But alright, I'll put it in.

[split mortar]

Didnt think i would have the time to boot pc up and get the stuff in

[wanton pendant]

Can you send me the list of them so I can put them in as upcoming?

[split mortar]

In the pins of admin general

[wanton pendant]

Yes, thank you.

It is done.

[split mortar]

🔥

Forgot i could edit on mobile

[wanton pendant]

Makes sense.

[sinful adder]

I am surprised that braelor and statis would be unable to kill Calamitas and thus stop the incineration

Or perhaps they could have, but something prevented them from doing so

[split mortar]

They prob get countered by the fact
Fire vs tree man

[wanton pendant]

She was like, a child.

I don't think the heroic duo would be too keen to kill a kid.

[split mortar]

Also statis and braelor would be many years younger and weaker

[wanton pendant]

(It is also possible that it's another hypothetical and not how things actually went down.)

[sinful adder]

They would be like 10 years younger at most

[crude musk]

What is embers and can I read it?

[wanton pendant]

Yes!

[wanton pendant]

12 by my count.

[sinful adder]

Regardless, I don't think it would matter

[north root]

she was hovering like really high in the air

nobody could reach her she was too high up

[wanton pendant]

Actually, 11 from when they fought Yharim.

But still, that's over a decade's worth of training and preparation they didn't have.

[split mortar]

This message has a link to embers

[wanton pendant]

It should be noted that Embers is a hypothetical scenario.

[split mortar]

Really?

[crude musk]

Oh I'm stupid I didn't know it was a link

Obsessed with provodence rn peak boss peak music peak character design

[wanton pendant]

You're not the only Providence fan here... the horrors.

[crude musk]

I wouldn't burn myself alive for her

Maybe

[north root]

fake fan fake fan fake fan

the providence fan market is fierce and cut-throat and you have to be extremely dedicated if you want to survive

[crude musk]

I'd rather keep my free will

Also is there a lore reason for her strength at night

And her blue flames?

[split mortar]

The stronger state has an explenation but its unrelated to the method it happens in game rn (it being changed)
You give her the profaned core back which is the power she gave the guards centuries ago

[crude musk]

Why would you ever give it back?

[split mortar]

You decide why
The terrarian is your character afterall

[sinful adder]

You held out the profaned core again after already having summoned Providence. Why did you do that? (It will be done by using the item again instead of night time)

[crude musk]

Wait don't you kill her?

I thought rematches weren't canon

[split mortar]

You can use the profaned core for your first attempt

Like the enrage can be done on your first attempt

[pulsar ocean]

if yharim played undertale would he go for geno route first

[split mortar]

Prob not

[pulsar ocean]

if yharim is like 130 if i remember correctly how is he aware about xeroc

[split mortar]

We dont concretely know but the yharim fought the sun theory kinda explains it
But is well
A theory

[cloud ibex]

i mean

i feel like xeroc would have been infamous among the dragons during the grey period

like doesn't yharim outright say that yharon told him the story about xeroc's ascension

[split mortar]

Also true

[pulsar ocean]

how did the other gods learn the ritual if xeroc after ascending banished fovos and dipped to the sun or some shit

[split mortar]

I thought xeroc ascended after the whole moonlord thing happened

[pulsar ocean]

i may be misremembering

so if it wasnt even xeroc who banished moonlord that means xeroc in his whole god career didnt do shit

[cloud ibex]

we don't know

they might've been doing work out there and we simply haven't seen it

[woeful hatch]

Yeah we know really nothing about what Xeroc did except putting terminus in the abyss presumably

[split mortar]

Also made the sun not explode people by being bright

[pulsar ocean]

not like zeratros couldnt do that if he wasnt a dipshit

[cloud ibex]

well there you have one thing

[split mortar]

Huh

[cloud ibex]

zeratros could've made the surface livable but didn't

xeroc did

[zenith geode]

thats about dogma which makes it less incomprehensible

[cloud ibex]

without the terminus

wow triangle really do be out here just confirming things i guess

[split mortar]

True it was just a likely thing

[woeful hatch]

I believe the terminus is what made the ascension perfect?

Like that's what I heard the most about

[cloud ibex]

i suppose we already knew the terminus had something to do with it but still kinda funny

[zenith geode]

when did silva ascend

[split mortar]

Yeah

[zenith geode]

like compared to the other gods

[split mortar]

We dunno afaik

@wanton pendant time the lines

[wanton pendant]

Oh come on.

After Xeroc.

[split mortar]

[wanton pendant]

Probably a very, very long time ago.

Either just after, or during being in the Abyss.

[pulsar ocean]

does ts (this) imply that a perfect ascension doesnt even need to be consensual and you just need the terminus

[cloud ibex]

[split mortar]

Possibly

[wanton pendant]

Which we don't know how much time she spends there, it's basically her Summer home.

[cloud ibex]

at the very least it confirms the terminus is involved

[split mortar]

Tru

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt jared eat the terminus

[zenith geode]

good question

[woeful hatch]

Because he's a good boy

[split mortar]

Would shit it out

[wanton pendant]

Rocks aren't tasty.

[woeful hatch]

Also why would it eat a rock

[zenith geode]

like jared's stronger than most dragons were right

[wanton pendant]

Almost all of them.

[zenith geode]

actually yeah he's stronger than yharon who's the second strongest dragon

[woeful hatch]

I don't think we have a specific confirmation but in game wise yeah

[split mortar]

Game progression means yeah jared stronger then sll but the sun

[woeful hatch]

Sadly in game stats aren't really canon as far as I can tell

[wanton pendant]

They are mostly accurate.

Not exactly, sure, but accurate.

[zenith geode]

placement in progression is somewhat accurate

[split mortar]

Game stats ≠ game progression

[woeful hatch]

Dragonfolly and Profaned guardians are post moonlord

[wanton pendant]

Dragonfolly is likely to change, and would be an instance of the gameplay being based on older version of the lore.

[zenith geode]

somewhat accurate

guardians being postml is reasonable i think

[split mortar]

Yeah so both rn are post ml in some regards
Tho folly prob loses to ml cause dumb bird wont go for eyes

[woeful hatch]

You think three disciples of a powerful god are stronger than the remains of one of the strongest beings in calamity lore?

[wanton pendant]

I mean... Embers.

They lose the matchup.

And Moon Lord would have had a bit of time to prepare by then having eaten the Terrarian and who knows what else.

He'd probably have been hungry.

[dusk laurel]

hes just a hungry guy

he meant no harm

[woeful hatch]

Tell that to the chrysadian people

[zenith geode]

he just wanted some new food

[woeful hatch]

Why did he do that anyways

[split mortar]

Moonlord is just kirby after eating moon squid

[woeful hatch]

Like why did he say "fuck the chrysadian people SPECIFICALLY"

[zenith geode]

humanoid gets a bit bland after enough time

[wanton pendant]

They were in the way.

[dusk laurel]

wasnt just chrysadia

[wanton pendant]

And Chrysadia is the only surface adjacent human civilization to date that far back as far as I know.

[dusk laurel]

its just that chrysadia is like the only human civilization on the surface during the draconic era that we know of

[wanton pendant]

Granted, we don't know of any surface civilization in general except there were ones.

Above the surface but yeah.

[dusk laurel]

even then, the dragons were global, well we know what happened to them

[wanton pendant]

Poor dragon that had to live on the Evil Hell Continent.

[zenith geode]

the dragon that had to live in bullshit evil land just because he got unlucky in the straw pull

[pulsar ocean]

do calamitas and permafrost have 400 hp lorewise

[wanton pendant]

No.

[woeful hatch]

No?

[dusk laurel]

no

[pulsar ocean]

how did they get more

[split mortar]

Cal has normal woman level hp

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas probably worked out back in the day that's gotta increase max HP. Permafrost is old that's gotta affect it somehow.

[split mortar]

Unless she has a smaller second shield underneath

[magic epoch]

i don't think hp is a very canon element

[split mortar]

Permafrost with the 98 hp

[cloud ibex]

she has as much health in her npc form as her boss form but the boss form has so much health cause of her shield

so i don't think that in particular is a lore thing

[pulsar ocean]

why did the terrarian never think of that

[wanton pendant]

Because you're lazy.

[cloud ibex]

would be kinda funny if she summoned her shield when enemies were nearby though

[woeful hatch]

Well permafrost has extended his lifespan with ice magic, I'd assume that helps with body durability too

[pulsar ocean]

can permafrost cryofreeze himself and wake up 10000 years later

[zenith geode]

tanks the entirety of exos but still dies to one nasty cholla

[split mortar]

Maybe

[wanton pendant]

Wait that's an interesting question.

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/kris-pronouns-deltarune-kris-deltarune-deltarune-kris-pronouns-they-them-gif-6074482569525867005

[cloud ibex]

i wonder if permafrost can do the aokiji thing and replace lost limbs with ice prosthetics

[woeful hatch]

Well, unironically I don't see why not? Or maybe it's something still past even his amount of expertise

[wanton pendant]

Like that thing in Legend of Korra?

[cloud ibex]

kinda? except aokiji just does a normal leg instead of goopy water arms

[zenith geode]

he has made sentient life/robots/whatever the fuck they are so i dont think limbs would be too hard for him

[woeful hatch]

Hmm, it'd probably lose out on the nerves and flexibility and other traits of things made to actually move

[wanton pendant]

Blood magic, duh.

[woeful hatch]

It could work as prosthesis but I'd think more like peg legs and shit

Rather than an actual arm

Or leg

[zenith geode]

i doubt he'd be unable to make joints

[woeful hatch]

Well he could probably make them with some telekinetic-like ice manipulation

Like, we see his cryons don't seem like paragon of flexibility

[cloud ibex]

yea he could just give it hinges

that would probably work

[zenith geode]

theyre mostly air

theyre more rayman than actual thing

[woeful hatch]

Yeah, if anything that should make it easier for them to bend and move

More space for moving components

I'm not saying it's impossible or anything

[pulsar ocean]

why did statis get the shadow limbs or whatever they're called instead of drinking a regen potion

[wanton pendant]

'Shadow Limbs'?
What the actual hell are you talking about?

He has prosthetics.

[pulsar ocean]

yeah and they look purple

[wanton pendant]

That's gray.

[pulsar ocean]

maybe the art i saw was fanart

regardless why didnt he drink a regen potion

to regen the limbs

[wanton pendant]

Broke and boyfriendless.

[split mortar]

Reb revealed that theres newer art that has shadow limbs

A while ago

[pulsar ocean]

AHA

so im not schizo

[wanton pendant]

Oh, so that explains it.

[split mortar]

Starting from here down
Also a bit of triangular posting

[woeful hatch]

Idk maybe his body saw there being something in the place of the arm and leg and said "oh look they're there already"

(in reality it's because the absolutely bonkers healing and Regen in general aren't that canon)

[split mortar]

Or anything beyond normal healing potions are rather recent development compared to when statis got delimbed

[wanton pendant]

Anyway, added a note to Statis' bio due to this.

[pulsar ocean]

the more you know

[split mortar]

Is pillars working for moonlord and solar being PL in the doc

[wanton pendant]

I put it in myself a while back.

'Of note, the Solar Pillar commanded a tainted variation of Primordial Light.'

[split mortar]

O ok

[wanton pendant]

Did we forget Lunatic Cultist.

[split mortar]

Persmaps

[wanton pendant]

How does this keep happening.

[split mortar]

Forgetting things related to the dungeon? Idk

[wanton pendant]

Before that it was Polterghast, and before that it WAS the Dungeon.

Is the Dungeon an anti-meme?

[inner pasture]

In the lore of Calamity, who, how and with what created the wall of flesh?

[cloud ibex]

i don't think the how or what has been stated but it was made by yharim's forces in an effort to contain godly essence

[inner pasture]

Yharim did it with the help of Azafure?

Wait

My translator fails

[pulsar ocean]

offshoot of scp 055

[wanton pendant]

Correct.

Alchemy and magic constructed it to contain the remains of gods before the Devourer of Gods joined.

[inner pasture]

And the meat that composes it comes from those Gods?

Like crimson

[wanton pendant]

Some of it.

It might contain human remains, not fully sure.

[inner pasture]

Terrifying

[real silo]

What's the lore behind solar frags ahain

[pulsar ocean]

i thunk

[real silo]

whar

[pulsar ocean]

diluted primordial light

[real silo]

How did it get diluted

[pulsar ocean]

those who know

[woeful hatch]

Every reflective surface is not entirely reflective, it absorbs some of the light

So you can "dilute" light that way

[real silo]

whar

So it's sunlight that was reflected off of something

Solar frags is moonlight confirmed

[wanton pendant]

It's Primordial Light but tainted somehow.

[pulsar ocean]

if yharim met scp 343 would he try to kill him

[balmy glacier]

have it tried to consume an auric soul?

[split mortar]

Moonlord twisted primordial light in some way and thats solar frags iirc
Lemme grab cei words

Solar frags are if anything
Concentrated

Die

[pulsar ocean]

hi melon channel

[split mortar]

Hello minos prime

[split mortar]

@real silo

[pulsar ocean]

is the sun from teletubbies stronger than calamity sun

[wanton pendant]

Sun in Teletubbies is only a baby.

So Calamity Sun.

[thick slate]

isnt the calamity sun tiny

[wanton pendant]

Yeah but it's a baby.

[thick slate]

hydrogen baby vs coughing bomb

[pulsar ocean]

how do you know it isnt a super strong baby

[wanton pendant]

Even a super strong baby is still a baby.

[split mortar]

Xeroc loses to old people not babies

[crude musk]

What does xeroc even do?

[thick slate]

sit in space

[crude musk]

Hibernate like Yharim pre world creation?

He became a god and caused 2 genocides for what?

[thick slate]

not really his fault

[wanton pendant]

Oopsies.

[crude musk]

Yeah but he didn't intervene either

[thick slate]

was he meant to

[wanton pendant]

I have a FAQ answer for that. One second.

[thick slate]

dragons all dying happened before him

and the gods all dying who caress

[wanton pendant]

"Presently, very little is known about Xeroc or their motives. The two most likely options are that Xeroc only chooses to intervene in an extremely dire situation, where the fate of all life is in question, or against external threats, leaving those originating from Terraria to their own devices."

[crude musk]

He could have if he wanted to

[thick slate]

he could also kill everybody

[crude musk]

I like the idea that he fights space evils and the terminus interaction is only a visit, not the first thing he's done in millenia

[crude musk]

Yeah

[wanton pendant]

It's possible.

[crude musk]

Ig bro just wanted immortality to meditate better

Or fight space creatures

[pastel bay]

It occurs to me the difference in atmopshere if the terrarian shows up to the fight with Scal in Auric Tesla, compared to the Gem Tech

In one, they bear a similar visage to Yharim, and have been on a similar conquest when you look at it from the outside.

In the other they look like a magic anime girl

[wanton pendant]

The Hitler cosplay is a bit on the nose, yes.

[split mortar]

Magic girl vs magic girl

[pastel bay]

Swap loadouts mid fight from auric Tesla to Gem Tech and Scal has to watch you do a full magic girl transformation

[pulsar ocean]

can draedon clone jared like 50 times so 51 jareds can jump xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Wyrm can do that already.

[pulsar ocean]

why doesnt he jump xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Too far away.

[pulsar ocean]

if it takes only 40 yharims to beat xeroc

[wanton pendant]

It takes more than 40 Yharims to beat Xeroc.

[pulsar ocean]

i remember seeing clearly

it takes 40 yharims

coordinated

[long bloom]

probably about right

[wanton pendant]

Are they Dragonmaxxing?

[zenith geode]

this massively underestimates the power of xeroc

[long bloom]

also yeah xeroc completely atomizes any amount of jareds

[wanton pendant]

If they each have their own Yharon... it still won't be enough.

[pulsar ocean]

i literally remember a lore writer saying it takes 40 coordinated yharims to beat xeroc

[split mortar]

Perfectly coordinated yharims

[thick slate]

arent tehy already atoms

[split mortar]

But yeah

[long bloom]

taylor i swear to xeroc

[thick slate]

i know one of those yharims are throwing like star lord did

🙂‍↔️

[pulsar ocean]

ok so like 80-100 uncoordinated yharims

[thick slate]

what about one reallly locked in yharim

[pastel bay]

The coordinated yharims combine into one big yharim

Like devastator

[pulsar ocean]

i think that would still take like 4 more

[thick slate]

omg devastator mentioned

ily

[wanton pendant]

Punched into space.

[pulsar ocean]

did you add to the faq in the xeroc section that he loses to 40 coordinated yharims

[pastel bay]

Yharim when Xeroc inverts gravity

[mortal dock]

Y'know, odd question, why are the majority of elementals female?
Like I think out of all of them, Earth Elemental is the only one that seems like it's not (and it's the only one not used in Heart of the Elements). Is there a lore or inspirational reason?

[split mortar]

Citation

[wanton pendant]

No!

[pulsar ocean]

why arent you

[wanton pendant]

Fabsol.

[thick slate]

gooner game

[wanton pendant]

Earth Elemental is currently feminine.

[thick slate]

i think they mean the actual earth elemental

like in game

[pastel bay]

We stan a buff woman

[wanton pendant]

I just posted her.

[mortal dock]

I meant Earth Elemental not Sand Elemental

[split mortar]

Fabsol likes women
So they were women
Sand is becoming the obelisk iirc

[thick slate]

why are you playing stupid

[wanton pendant]

Here's her other form.

[mortal dock]

That's brimstone...

Just cold

[pastel bay]

Oh right the third class of elemental

[wanton pendant]

No it is not.

[pastel bay]

Object

[pulsar ocean]

i thought patches meant earth elemental like the guy that drops some useless weapons

in caves

[wanton pendant]

That's an impostor.

[mortal dock]

Exactly lol

[thick slate]

thats a construct

from azafure

iirc

[wanton pendant]

Correct.

[pastel bay]

I remeber when you needed a drop from it for heart of the elements.

[thick slate]

not an actual earth elemental

[mortal dock]

Tbf Earth Ele still arguably is anyway since it's apparently a construct meant to basically contain Brimstone Elemental but failed

[thick slate]

the actual guy is sand

[wanton pendant]

It's an impostor.

[thick slate]

sus

[mortal dock]

So damn then yeah every single elemental is female

[split mortar]

Earth was meant to contain brimmy??

[pulsar ocean]

do you need to atomize all pieces of land on terraria to kill the earth elemental

[mortal dock]

And the only reason so far is because... fabsol was a horn dog?

[thick slate]

yea

[wanton pendant]

'After the Brimstone Elemental became dormant, the forgemasters of Azafure used clockwork and crystal to bind the powers of an elemental to a mechanical body. While formidable, it seems the dream of creating a true replacement for an elemental died unfulfilled with Azafure itself.'

[split mortar]

I thought it was meant to replicate the power of an elemental and replace brimmy as an idol cause brimmy honk mimimi

[zenith geode]

why is it called earth elemental when the planet you play on is called terraria? does the terrarian know things they shouldnt?

[split mortar]

They are de womening a few elementals now fabsol gon so yeah

[mortal dock]

Goddamnit now I don't even have a lore-based refutation for my friend calling me a wannabe lesbian for using Heart of the Elements :(

[wanton pendant]

Nothing about containing her power, only replacing her as an idol.

[mighty zenith]

why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food

[wanton pendant]

Are YOU (Terrarian is you) stupid?

[versed jay]

New sprite showed dog first stage is just skin and second stage he has armor, where the heck did those armors came from

[wanton pendant]

Draedon.

[split mortar]

Draedon made em

[versed jay]

[mortal dock]

He got the Twins treatment and all the armor went beneath the flesh obvs

[versed jay]

Why? Is it cuz they were still ally's below yharim command?

[mortal dock]

And it only flares out when damaged enough for it to rip out from the surface skin

[wanton pendant]

Draedon was tasked with making DoG armour.

[split mortar]

DoG is still technically yharims ally

[wanton pendant]

This was before they parted ways.

DoG is nominally still allied to Yharim.

[wanton pendant]

Don't traumatize the poor new people.

[versed jay]

What ;-;

[zenith geode]

he slips into the armour for p2 once he realises that you aren't easy prey

[pulsar ocean]

when does the son of yharon play a role in the lore

[thick slate]

no way he can equip it all that quick

[wanton pendant]

Yharon would never acknowledge his kids, even if they were real.

[zenith geode]

replaced with fiery draconids

[wanton pendant]

That is genuinely, actual true lore.

[versed jay]

Dragonfolly? Or who?

[thick slate]

yharon is a deadbeat

[wanton pendant]

If Dragonfollys descended from Yharon, Yharon would never admit to it.

[zenith geode]

akato, son of yharon is donor content and so is fake and gay

[versed jay]

Yeah yharon is just going for the milk straight away

[pulsar ocean]

did they just add random bs for money

[wanton pendant]

*Crusade.

[wanton pendant]

Yes. Exactly.

[zenith geode]

rewards for people who donated

donor content is still being added even so long after the window closed

[wanton pendant]

Turns out a lot of people wanted random stuff so they stopped doing it.

[zenith geode]

the window is nearly guaranteed to never reopen

[versed jay]

Scal family was just a vessel with no souls? Like what the fuck ;-;

[wanton pendant]

They're dead.

[versed jay]

And scal with The power of MAGIC brings them back but with no souls?

[wanton pendant]

Necromancy is hard.

[pulsar ocean]

if you're talking about her brothers she necromancy'd them and their only directive in their "minds" is "protect sister"

[pulsar ocean]

why doesnt she just get better at it

is she stupid

[wanton pendant]

She did!
Necromancy hard.

[split mortar]

Necromancy in calamity is flawed
No matter how good she could do necromancy her brothers will lack parts of themselves

[zenith geode]

i can only imagine necromancy requires a lot of materials

[wanton pendant]

It's like brain scooping.

Not an exact science.

[wanton pendant]

That's why it's so hard, bodies are complex.

[zenith geode]

like you cant just make a sepulcher all willy nilly

[wanton pendant]

Literally conjuring an entire body is REALLY hard.

Making it work is harder.

Putting the spirit into the body is also probably tricky.

[pulsar ocean]

does sepulcher actually solo dog or thats old lore

[versed jay]

Maybe even almost impossible

[wanton pendant]

I mean, like, Calamitas is stronger than DoG at least.

[pulsar ocean]

sepulcher on its own

[versed jay]

But not stronger than the tyrant himself

[zenith geode]

unless dog actually destroys the hearts then he'd get worn down over time i think

[wanton pendant]

Where are the Brimstone Hearts?

[versed jay]

And prob xeroc and noxus

[pulsar ocean]

floating around sepulcher

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc and Noxus would kill Calamitas, yes.

Yharim in his present state is realistically going to defeat her.

Not that she would want to fight him.

[split mortar]

That was the case before?

[zenith geode]

isnt xeroc several orders of magnitude stronger than zeratros was or smth

[wanton pendant]

Easily.

[versed jay]

Those are the most unique yet annoying shit I ever had playing endgame summoner like I would rather use normal dog staff and not the sepulcher ones

[pulsar ocean]

zeratros got bodied by fovos and fovos is a lil weaker than noxus and xeroc is miles above noxus

[wanton pendant]

Incorrect.

Fovos was stronger than Noxus.

[split mortar]

Fovos above noxus

[pulsar ocean]

was he

[split mortar]

This is said by devs consistently that fovos beats noxus

[pulsar ocean]

what if noxus gets prep time

[spring helm]

wha

when

[wanton pendant]

This comes up all the time.

[spring helm]

rp rot

curse you aster

[split mortar]

Bruh

[versed jay]

Old duke is just duke fishron that adapt to sulphuric sea or what?

[wanton pendant]

No.

[pulsar ocean]

hes a duke thats old

[split mortar]

Thats whats in game rn but that gonna change

[zenith geode]

old duke has more pure dragon blood due to being old and yeah he just adapted to that shit

[versed jay]

A dragon with fish tail and some old duke old sprite detail

[zenith geode]

how old even is old duke

[wanton pendant]

Old Duke is also super racist.

[split mortar]

Noxus is not the concept of growth and does not beat fovos or xeroc

[versed jay]

Like tru-

[wanton pendant]

He was around when the Auric Dragons were I think?

[spring helm]

well i knew the former

[zenith geode]

so a pretty damn long time

[wanton pendant]

So well over 850 years at least.

[spring helm]

i just thought noxus and fovos were nebulously on par with each other

[pulsar ocean]

ok but hes cool

[split mortar]

One of the first dragon offshoots

[pulsar ocean]

who was the 2nd god to ascend

[versed jay]

Ravager, what the fuck is that things purpose? Lore might change cuz of concept in the new ravager that would be post providence I remember

[split mortar]

Dogma

[split mortar]

Zombie god

[wanton pendant]

Zombie god.

[split mortar]

With domain of blood

[pulsar ocean]

the guy knew the ritual and he chose such a fodder ass dragon? out of everyone else?

[zenith geode]

followers really wanted agnus back after yharim killed him

so they necromancied him with their bodies as catalysts and it failed

[versed jay]

No need explanation on that for ravager
And last one is why the fuck in the creating world screen there is a text saying "disposing silvas remains" like what

[zenith geode]

abyss

[wanton pendant]

She got tossed in the Abyss again.

[split mortar]

Silva got dropped into the abyss

[zenith geode]

silva is in/is the abyss

[long bloom]

it's abyss time for her

[versed jay]

Yep maybe I will go sleep ya guys enjoy ur uh lore discussion

[split mortar]

Yharim stabbed her cause she a god and threw her into the abyss cause elementals dont die

[pulsar ocean]

wouldnt it be a fun event if silva at some point in game regen'd and got out and we could kill her again and drop her in the abyss again

[wanton pendant]

That's just plain mean.

[gritty kraken]

Jared wouldn’t let this one slide

[spring helm]

😭

[zenith geode]

please dont spawncamp the silva

[split mortar]

Bath or life for silva

[wanton pendant]

Send her into the pit.

[pulsar ocean]

ok but how would silva even get out of the abyss
wouldnt the pressure just kinda keep crushing her

[mortal dock]

Nah just summon her directly in the Abyss

[wanton pendant]

She did it before.

She can do it again.

[pulsar ocean]

i can kill her again

[mortal dock]

Or give her like impossibly high Defense unless you make her follow you down

[crude musk]

Question for water

[split mortar]

Yes

[crude musk]

You keep talking about a faq. Where can I find it

[long bloom]

it's in a doc not yet released to the public

[split mortar]

Its in a document me, wwg and a few others are making to help introduce others to lore

[crude musk]

oh okay

[split mortar]

The faq is well
The part where commonly asked questions go

[crude musk]

do you have an estimate on how many more months until it's out?

[fallen kindle]

bro is not water 🥀🥀

[split mortar]

Im a WATERmelon with a gun

[long bloom]

this week probably

[crude musk]

WHAT

I need it

[split mortar]

I aint good at doing that prob better to ask someone else

[crude musk]

That's actually crazy

[split mortar]

Damn

[crude musk]

I love calam lore but the current doc is just a compilation

[wanton pendant]

Good news.

[split mortar]

I should make a doc that is just the sources to the dev statements

[long bloom]

we can finally be lore

[wanton pendant]

This is good news.

[crude musk]

Great time to join the discord

[wanton pendant]

You'll live for thirty years.

[crude musk]

Are you sure?

[wanton pendant]

I did suggest adding sources once, since I saw a few people asking for it here.

[wanton pendant]

We can be bees.

[crude musk]

yharim is literally omniman

[wanton pendant]

Not quite.

Omniman realizes his mistakes.

[split mortar]

Omniman afaik aint super gold hitler

[crude musk]

So does yharim

He keeps talking about his mistakes

[wanton pendant]

He really didn't.

[split mortar]

He does not regret killing the innocents

If given the chance he would do the crusade again but more efficient

[crude musk]

Yeah but he does regret his larger fuckups like the evil biomes

[wanton pendant]

It would be like if Omniman only regretted beating up Mark and the Guardians but was fine with everything else.

[crude musk]

True

[split mortar]

He has the tech to remove them
Keeping them around is intentional

[crude musk]

Well he only regrets the takeover plan because he got attached to mark

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, and Yharim doesn't.

[crude musk]

Oh yeah that makes sense

The best ending would be to not kill Yharim because he doesn't deserve to have a say in his death

[split mortar]

I dont think yharim will let that happen once the fight starts

[crude musk]

Why not just maim him

[wanton pendant]

He'd rather die.

[crude musk]

Yeah but we are stronger

[wanton pendant]

Than let you not kill him.

[split mortar]

Are we?

[crude musk]

Idk I assume we are

[wanton pendant]

Personally, I am.

[crude musk]

Why else would we fight him

[wanton pendant]

Why is up to you.

Get the image.

[split mortar]

While the terrarians specifics are up to you to decide i think it works best if yharim and terrarian are more so equals

[crude musk]

Yeah ig

[split mortar]

Also why would the fight be hard if the terrarian is stronger

[crude musk]

Because you're not stronger by much

[fallen kindle]

Getty images

[wanton pendant]

Balance has been restored.

[crude musk]

Yeah but we don't get the option to kill calamitas

The illusion of choice

[split mortar]

Just flymeal her

[crude musk]

She comes back if you leave a house open

Are npc respawns canon?

[mortal dock]

The lore is I have a severe fucking problem with Draedon hogging all the scrap and I want all the scrap for endless laboratories I'll never finish building

[long bloom]

dubious

[wanton pendant]

No...
Don't know about the Guide though.

[mortal dock]

Some yes some no- Guide and some others are because they're remnants of an order, one's death just replaces them with another person similar.

[wanton pendant]

What are you talking about.

[split mortar]

Prob depends on the npc since a lot of them can just be that a new person similar profession appeared while others like scal i dont think have a replacement waiting

[mortal dock]

IIRC.

[long bloom]

in vanilla lore, when an npc "respawns" it's a different person that looks and acts exactly the same

[crude musk]

isn't that vanilla?

[split mortar]

Vanilla lore not canon to calamity

[split mortar]

Yea iirc

[crude musk]

ig it's a case of gameplay overriding lore

[split mortar]

Well yeah that happens because gameplay first

[steep hamlet]

are bosses enraging like, part of the lore?

because if yharon can just instakill you when enraged then why doesnt he do that the entire fight?

[gritty kraken]

I think only Providence enrage is canon

[steep hamlet]

cool

[split mortar]

Only boss enrage that comes to mind is providence

And the method of enrage is changing

[split mortar]

Proof perma old

[random mulch]

ascended xeroc sketch
might be a bit simplistic but oh well

[wanton pendant]

That's sick.

[split mortar]

Tru

[random mulch]

got their hair back caus they're no longer a draconic monk

[tropic oak]

lore

[wanton pendant]

Hell yeah.

[dusk laurel]

dawg
that was months or even a year ago

[polar flower]

alright does xeroc have stuff to do with providence cuz I remember I didn't get providence's backstory thing

[random mulch]

no

[wanton pendant]

They are both gods, that's really it.

[split mortar]

Both are gods thats about it

[polar flower]

then yeah I got no clue what xeroc is and why this mf is talking to me in boss rush

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc is impressed you found his magic rock.

[random mulch]

xeroc is the first god

[zenith geode]

the terminus is an artifact required for perfect ascension

[split mortar]

Xeroc is the god of the literal sun and yeah impressed you got their silly rock

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt we politely ask slime god about the ritual

[polar flower]

if this goober is the god of the sun

Why the hell is his rock in the ocean

instead of on the sun

[random mulch]

got thrown down there

[pulsar ocean]

he left it there

[wanton pendant]

Providence's backstory is simple, something horrible in the past happened to her involving the Moon Lord and now she wants to murder literally everyone and everything, so she killed a dragon with the power of lesbians.

[pulsar ocean]

presumably crucial part in perfectly ascending

[wanton pendant]

He threw it down there to prevent its misuse.

[zenith geode]

left it there so that no more perfect ascensions may happen

how silva got a perfect ascension, we don't know

[wanton pendant]

The dragon did not have the power of lesbians, to clarify.

It had the power of Flame.

[polar flower]

perfect ascension is how mortals become gods, correct?

[wanton pendant]

No, it's how they become a god and keep the domain of the dragon.

[zenith geode]

gods are still mortal even if perfectly ascended

[wanton pendant]

An imperfect ascension still makes you a god.

[zenith geode]

its just that they're obscenely strong

as seen with xeroc

[polar flower]

Then why does Xeroc say "when I was a mortal?"

Did he become immortal irrelavant of his divinity?

[pulsar ocean]

basically each dragon had their own element
perfect ascension means you get the exact element the dragon had
imperfect means you get some vaguely different element

[zenith geode]

nothing can come close to hurting them

silva is the only other case of perfect ascension and she's just naturally immortal thanks to being an elemental

[split mortar]

Gods dont age and yeah xeroc is well
The god of the sun
Nothing beating the guy to death really

[polar flower]

aw man, even with all my accessories set to menacing?

[wanton pendant]

Nope.

[zenith geode]

the second strongest character, fovos in its prime, would be made an example of by xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Unmatched power of the sun.

[pulsar ocean]

what if you threw the irl sun at xeroc

[split mortar]

Bro ot would take like 40 supreme witche calamitas to maybe have a chance according to a dev statement
Actually more that was refering to a diff character thats a bit stronger

[zenith geode]

and fovos killed most of the dragons and gravely wounded zeratros, which is where xeroc got their auric soul

[dusk laurel]

yharim

[pulsar ocean]

40 yharims

coordinated

[wanton pendant]

Or one Yharim with the Chaos Emeralds.

[dusk laurel]

the seven human souls

[polar flower]

well now I just wanna fight him

[pulsar ocean]

could shadow the hedgehog beat xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[wanton pendant]

You gotta wait.

[pulsar ocean]

wow xeroc is fodder

[polar flower]

Archie?

Archie shadow yes

[wanton pendant]

If you want to nerf Shadow, sure.

[polar flower]

I'm talking pre gen wave not post

[wanton pendant]

Mainline is still the stronger version of the cast.

Back to Calamity.

[polar flower]

since when? Was there smth in frontiers I missed?

[wanton pendant]

Shadow defeated Metal Overlord by himself in Shadow Generations for a start.

[pulsar ocean]

i think if god of dogma had a stand it would be d4c

[inner pasture]

It would be amazing to have a game or mod where we live everything from the draconic era.

[polar flower]

I didn't play that game so I'll just look into it later ig

[wanton pendant]

It would suck.

Cancer everywhere!

[inner pasture]

And the one they're making is Reign of Yharim, but I don't know how much it will be subject to the lore.

[wanton pendant]

And Ridley just exists.

[pulsar ocean]

it would suck cuz u dont get to see the dragons cuz u cant live on the surface

[wanton pendant]

That's not set during the Draconic Era.

[polar flower]

Would this imply we will be fighting xeroc eventually?

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[zenith geode]

xeroc might become a postgame superboss

[inner pasture]

That's why I say, I don't know how subject it is to the lore, besides that is later in another time

[polar flower]

oh awesome, like final boss material or is final boss just yharim still?

[pulsar ocean]

yeah maybe like in 2040 give or take
best case scenario

[pulsar ocean]

after yharim will be 2 superbosses
noxus and xeroc

[wanton pendant]

It's Calamity if it was a linear Metroidvania and follows the same lore, just with Terraria origin stuff removed for legal reasons.

[polar flower]

And then Yharim 2

[pulsar ocean]

they dont count and yharim is still the final boss

[inner pasture]

You're absolutely right xD. Even in the roleplay I'm doing with my friends, we respect that.

[polar flower]

awesome

[wanton pendant]

That's you if you're evil.

[polar flower]

I'm only evil in the sense that I build all my NPCs low income housing

might actually fix that tho

[gritty kraken]

This is actually princess npc

[polar flower]

I kinda feel bad especially bc I don't have dog so

[zenith geode]

draconic era calamity is like loz skyward sword

[wanton pendant]

Skyward Sword with way more mole people.

[pulsar ocean]

why doesnt the universe splitter split universes

[polar flower]

Calamity Final Final boss: Perfectly Ascended Princess Prime, Clone Absorbed

[wanton pendant]

Budget cuts.

[tropic oak]

hi

lore

[pulsar ocean]

why doesnt supernova like the rogue weapon throw actual supernovas i think that would be enough to kill xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Hello, we found some stuff about someone.

[zenith geode]

because the terrarian sucks at naming shit

[tropic oak]

what n who wat

[polar flower]

I really like that calamity confirmed that we just name these weapons and items

[gritty kraken]

What if instead of present moonlord spawning after lunatic cultist it was moonlord prime

h

[polar flower]

"Yeah I'll call this the Atlas Munitions Beacon"

[zenith geode]

miracle matter, exoblade, skeletron prime

[polar flower]

"Mhm this one is the Triactis' True Paladinian Mage-Hammer of Might"

it's like a little kid naming their cool guy OC drawn with crayons

[split mortar]

Fuc

[pulsar ocean]

why in the fuck would the dragon cult want to summon an octopus cosmic entity

ts (this) feels like old lore

[wanton pendant]

It is.

[zenith geode]

2021 is indeed old lore

[split mortar]

Yeah

I didnt realise the quotes i find were old as ballls

[polar flower]

"Dude revive me and I'll bring you a dragon I gotchu"

Why didn't the dragon cult just use the blessed phoenix egg are they stupid

[split mortar]

Yharon isnt dead

[gritty kraken]

Summoning items aren’t real

[split mortar]

How much salt can yharim handle till he dies

[polar flower]

That's gotta be the lamest cop-out ever

[wanton pendant]

An unusually high amount.

[split mortar]

How they meant to explain holding out a hand held item pissing someone off enough for a fight to the death

[fleet wedge]

Probably not any more than Deltarune chapters 3 + 4

[wanton pendant]

Silksong.

[polar flower]

If an ant was holding a sign that said "fuck you, you goat-kissing maggot faced idiot" and then started shooting it's ant gun at you when you looked over, would you think of stepping on it?

[wanton pendant]

I'd go "What the hell, a talking ant!?"

[polar flower]

a talking ant who fucking hates you!

[split mortar]

^

[polar flower]

he wants the hands!

[split mortar]

its clearly sapient so no killing

[polar flower]

well clearly his little ant gun is starting to hurt

You have 1.6 million hp but damn this is hitting you dude

[gritty kraken]

naturally spawning DoG when

[split mortar]

Idk walk away

[wanton pendant]

Does it have 1.6 million ammo?

[polar flower]

he's chasing you on his stupid flying broom

[wanton pendant]

HIS WHAT!?

[split mortar]

Just go out of bounds

[polar flower]

yeah man he has a flying broom he got it from killing a tree

[tropic oak]

hi

[split mortar]

Ant when i close the door

[tropic oak]

ok im available

whats poppin

[split mortar]

Ant solos human if with gun and flying broom

[polar flower]

ok what if the ant had 10 thousand dollars

and he still had gun and flying broom

[tropic oak]

true?

[polar flower]

maybe this is why we drop our money when we die

they want our money

Devourer of gods hasn't had gods in a very long time he wants to buy burger

[zenith geode]

the money is a bonus i just don't want an ant shooting me

[gritty kraken]

Scal motivation if it was good

[polar flower]

put me on the writers team coach I know nothing about the lore

[split mortar]

@tropic oak will you test them

[tropic oak]

you may test them

[split mortar]

hey
wanna the know?

[polar flower]

I'd be down yeah

the only story with big lore that I know a lot about is the elder scrolls series but that's because I literally read real life books on Hermeticism to understand some of that shit

knowing stuff abt that series has given me a distrust in youtube lore channels because those mfs are inaccurate as fuck and will just lie sometimes

[fleet wedge]

Okay but honestly, I think the chart would benefit quite a bit if the "unfinished/finished" marker was split into two separate ones
(Also, why are some tracks already have a name but no marker?)

[polar flower]

cough cough camelworks cough cough

[wanton pendant]

We have a rigorous verification policy (praying).

[split mortar]

dms

[untold oracle]

saying dms in public channel is so dark and mysterious

[split mortar]

The work is nearly done anyways as far as i know

[woeful hatch]

Like, the kirkbride stuff ?

I've barely dipped my toes in TES lore but there's like a lot of it, and some of it is confusing especially because I haven't played Morrowind or the older games

[polar flower]

Yes

I have several sets of notes and have extensively been learned on most aspects of it

my strong points are metaphysics and divinity and my weak points are 1st era and Merithic era history

[pearl halo]

did someone say lore

[polar flower]

the channel name yes

[pearl halo]

[split mortar]

Dont worry here is a leak of the work done today

[pearl halo]

Gorgeous

[mighty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/true-flaming-fire-fire-text-flaming-text-gif-15077182655587909290

[wanton pendant]

You want lore? It's yours my friend, as long as you have enough Rubies.

[pearl halo]

how much

[split mortar]

3

[pearl halo]

sorry, have 4

[split mortar]

You know too much
Denied

[pearl halo]

[woeful hatch]

I have just today learned about the tower and the secret tower and I can't understand whether the secret tower is related to an actual place in mundus or if it's just a concept which says the self is divine

[polar flower]

The secret tower is the Aurbis

The secret tower is the interplay between I, the individual, and I, the entire Aurbis.

If you want I can talk about it more in DM's or some other more topic appropriate place

But it's less "the self is divine" and more "the self is everything and everything is the self but individual identity still exists"

[split mortar]

Chat wheres dreadnautilus entry

[young socket]

#calamity-update-talk message

[split mortar]

Thanks

[real silo]

She said that's with solar armor though not solar fragments

[slate axle]

Do you guys think that yharim is an unreliable narrator?

[pastel bay]

Unbelievably so

[zenith geode]

"do you think auric hitler is biased"

[pastel bay]

We know he is thanks to draedon

[long bloom]

he objectively is

[tropic oak]

yuuuuup

i’m sure as shit not listening to the big bad. neither should you

[pastel bay]

The earlier his words the more true they might be just because up until like, slime god? Other people have made similar triumphs

[long bloom]

most of what he says about gods and his achievements are false

[pastel bay]

Oh well, duh yeah but I mean it's not like his early words are anything special

[long bloom]

awakenings

[pastel bay]

He doesn't have to hide nearly as much when we're just another adventurer

[long bloom]

true

[pliant ruin]

Wouldn't really say about his achievements

He ain't lying when he say he's strong as fuck and that he hunted down and killed most gods

[wheat walrus]

i killed ppl

[long bloom]

@wanton pendant i may have found another test subject

hm

@tropic oak

[tropic oak]

wat

[long bloom]

see above message

[tropic oak]

give it to them

[long bloom]

👍

[north root]

the lore-discussion shadow government grows in magnitude

[feral skiff]

Draedon VS the entire world’s military, who’s winning

[latent bolt]

Two words: Exo Mechs

plus, theres a realistic likelihood that Draedon can mass produce these guys

[feral skiff]

i think that the Exo Mechs are his most powerful creation

he could probably mass produce things that are around the mechanical boss tier

and make like tens of thousands of them

[eager bluff]

he can mass produce better than mechs

[feral skiff]

yeah true

[eager bluff]

probably not mass production of exos but he can absolutely mass produce post moon lord tier mechs

[slate axle]

I was erring on the side that yharim is a horrible person and unreliable I just wanted yalls opinion

[woeful hatch]

Well, you are correct

The lore items , since they're from his perspective, might trick you into believing he's some sort of tragic hero but no, even if you pay attention to those you can already see he's very evil, and then there's everything he DOESN'T say which makes him even worse

[north root]

yharim is actually a completely reliable narrator, the developers are known liars and make things up to make yharim look bad

this is why yharim update has not been released, the devs are scared he will reveal them all to be frauds and misinformers

[zealous shale]

I always read it as this, but Yharim is like suicidal right?

I read the lore as after basically everyone close to him leaves him he realizes he’s kind of awful (still doesn’t feel bad for the whole killing many innocent bystanders thing though)

[long bloom]

it's complicated

he's depressed but he only wants you to kill him so you can succeed him and finish the crusade

and he regrets exactly one thing (mistreating calamitas)

[zealous shale]

That makes sense

I’d still assume part of it is him being genuinely depressed though ?

[long bloom]

i honestly have no idea

too hard to discern

[zealous shale]

Curse you calamity and your up for interpretation lore

[long bloom]

REAL

[zealous shale]

I kind of like it though

It’s weird

[long bloom]

how am i supposed to make a timeline when the order of half the events are completely up in the air

[zealous shale]

No yeah stuff like that I wish was more concrete

[split mortar]

Solar armour which is
Made
Of frags

[woeful hatch]

Well, he also does regret the dungeon stuff and apparently not dealing with the corruption and crimson

[split mortar]

Except yharim has the tech to deal with the crimson and corruption

[woeful hatch]

I thought he didn't do that because "boohoo I'm depressed and don't want to put the effort in to try and fix anything so I'll just stand here in the aerie"

[split mortar]

I doubt the tech to make a clentaminator is recent when draedon exists