#lore-discussion

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sinful adder
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I just ignore them

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There should be a mod to nuke OOA from the game

full comet
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...are there any other events with tiers?

pliant ruin
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cheese will forever be the only person who actually enjoys OOA and has fun with it and thinks that even with the admittedly valid reasons people have to dislike it it also does certain things better than most other events...

full comet
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At least tiers similar with the OOA

pliant ruin
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None with the OOA style though

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also Blood Moon

full comet
split mortar
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Acid rain for calamity

pliant ruin
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Solar Eclipse gets alot of different enemies though

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Blood Moon is not as much

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and goblin army is one

long bloom
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the auric soul merges with their regular soul to create an entire new thing

split mortar
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Post plantera is when the 1.3 eclipse exists no?

full comet
pliant ruin
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I think OOA does enemy niches and variety way better than any other event tbh

full comet
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When you get to the tier. You usually get the gear needed through progression

pliant ruin
long bloom
full comet
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Meanwhile you could be entirely unaware of OOA

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Then start it post golem

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Like I did

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And then just get zerg rushed

pliant ruin
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If they just buffed the amount of defender medals you get from completing one event it'd be way better

full comet
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And now your crystal is fucked

pliant ruin
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gonna be honest here

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Terraria being a game that dosen't explain things too well

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You can like miss Alot of things in the game on a blind playthrough

full comet
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I also remember farming Betty over 20 times

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And never getting the flying dragon

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So that probably sours my mood even more

split mortar
full comet
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Seriously why can't we shimmer to an alt. Boss weapon drop

split mortar
full comet
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Awesome

split mortar
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Its in the changelogs lol

pliant ruin
long bloom
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someone already made that joke earlier today

full comet
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Sandbox games in general

long bloom
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removing your protons

pliant ruin
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Though i guess it depends on what you qualify as a sandbox

full comet
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I generally think that Terraria needs more explanations than say

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Minecraft

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Since one has progression while the other literally is "Do whatever the fuck you want IDC"

long bloom
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yeah terraria's tutorialization is

abject dogshit HDfailure

full comet
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I miss the console tutorial

pliant ruin
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Minecraft still lacks in a few departments but

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It's way better than terraria lmao

full comet
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Although it was only slightly better than nothing tbh

pliant ruin
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Notably the. nether

long bloom
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ruined portals fixed that tbh

pliant ruin
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for someone who dosen't go to the wiki or know Minecraft and who goes in completely blind how the fuck are they gonna discover how to go the nether

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They really didn't 😭

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Some japanese (?) streamer played minecraft blind for a year without knowing about the nether or end

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And i can't blame them because like even with ruined portals

full comet
pliant ruin
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you have to go through the following line of thougth

long bloom
pliant ruin
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Hmm what if i rebuild the portal (They have to do it in a specific way, they might use different blocks for decoration or just make a slightly different shape in which case. Oops! no portal)

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And then AFTER that

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they have to SOMEHOW have the idea

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Hmm what if i light the center of the portal on fire

pliant ruin
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Because assuming the player obtains eyes of end

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Which, shouldn't be hard IF they have got to the nether and gotten blaze rods, because then they'll probably craft blaze powder eventually because of the crafting guide book, which leads to eyes

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They throw the eye

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And i think it's reasonable to say the player might be curious about what the eye does

full comet
# long bloom i mean there's achievements but who reads those

I mean you'd know they exist.

But you wouldn't know that you have to kill a tall black man, steal his balls.

Then kill shorter men with weird rods, steal their rods, and then turn them into powder.

Combine the balls and powder to make eyes and then follow the floating eyeball.

pliant ruin
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I mean

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again

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crafting guide

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the moment you get blaze rods, you know blaze powder exists

long bloom
pliant ruin
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and you know blaze powder exists, so if you have ender pearls, which at this point the player would most likely have

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you know eyes of ender exist

pliant ruin
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who reads achievements

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;sob

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Not to mention again they'd have to build a specific portal frame

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And there's a chance they just do it wrong

pliant ruin
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perfectly reasonable

long bloom
pliant ruin
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At some point, they stop moving forward

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And the player goes

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hmm they seem to have stopped here

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Which would go to either "what if i go up" or "what if i go down"

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And if they go down they find a stronghold, eventually find a end portal
And well the end portal has atleast 1 eye of ender on it already and the player notices the others are empty

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And from there yeah most people would just correctly assume to put the eyes in there

split mortar
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The eyes go down into the ground dont they?

pliant ruin
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finding the end is far more intuitive to a 100% blind player than finding the nether

long bloom
full comet
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I feel like they are more intuitive than the end

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Since it doesn't help that you often have to walk at least hundreds of blocks

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The whole time wondering

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"Is it leading me somewhere or is this just a waste of time?"

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But pre-ruined portal

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Yeah the end has more direction

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Post ruined, you can probably guess that the omnious gateway needs to be completed since they usually have an obsidian block missing

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And there are blocks that you see nowhere else

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So they must connect that the gateway and blocks are connected

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Maybe somebody could make the mistake that only ruined portals could lead to the nether?

wheat walrus
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Yharim really loves Ilmeris

split mortar
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Dont ruined portals often show you like
The basic shape
So fucking up the shape is prob not too likely idk

deft comet
split mortar
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Just realised omni has teto pfp

deft comet
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I should change my pfp to Yharim

pliant ruin
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my pfp is me in real life

mighty zenith
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the issue with ruined portals is that crying obsidian doesnt work for the portal iirc

wheat walrus
split mortar
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No you are yuri limbus and calamitas

pliant ruin
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girl ✅
normal ✅
streamer ✅

cloud ibex
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why are you in black and white

pliant ruin
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it all checks out

cloud ibex
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were you born before they invented color

wheat walrus
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Cheese is ancient

pliant ruin
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yes

mighty zenith
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old hag

cloud ibex
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i knew it

mighty zenith
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moldy cheese

cloud ibex
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put this mf in the pit

split mortar
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Mold ridden individual

wheat walrus
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Garbo can't be speaking of mold tho

mighty zenith
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there is no mold on me

split mortar
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Wait true wtfrick

split mortar
wheat walrus
split mortar
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Chat why is my phone convinced mold isnt a word

wheat walrus
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There's mold in there

mighty zenith
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nuh uh

cloud ibex
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maybe it thinks you're trying to say mould

mighty zenith
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i wouldnt be garbo if yall mfs cleaned up the oceans...

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🐢

wheat walrus
split mortar
wheat walrus
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I'm the dumbassador

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
sinful adder
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Damnit

pliant ruin
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you like eat straws and stuff

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is good for u

mighty zenith
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nooo

pliant ruin
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yum im so full of palstic

cloud ibex
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anyway

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lore discussion

pliant ruin
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true !

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do you guys fw dragon of death

mighty zenith
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do you think more people joined yharim for his ideology or for the benefits

pliant ruin
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we know like nothing about him but i get the feeling hes probably chill

mighty zenith
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he sounds like a stoner

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for no reason whatsoever

full comet
pliant ruin
split mortar
pliant ruin
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Like theres so many reasons one could join him and that comes from Yharim's complete power over the state of the world and his immense charisma

cloud ibex
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i liked that one headcanon alt(?) had where they were pretty chill all things considered but would also unintentionally kill everything that came near so they had to live in isolation

pliant ruin
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Genuinely believing his ideals, simply wanting to survive and be on the side of the winner, wanting the wealth and comfort the yharmy provided, being pressured into it by peers, family or friends

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And that's probably not even all

cloud ibex
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i'd also like to imagine that they were friends with the dragon of life cause i think life and death being mortal enemies is a bit boring

pliant ruin
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Maybe some of them just really wanted to kill people

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Like they didn't even care about the ideals they were just like man i REALLY want to kill people

mighty zenith
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fair

pliant ruin
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it makes more sense even for them to be buddies tbh

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both were like, iirc

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amongst the very first dragons

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And like

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life and death work in tangent with eachother

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life gives way to death, death gives way to life

cloud ibex
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pretty sure it's said that life and death were the first two dragons to get auric souls yeah

pliant ruin
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life and death both being really chill and then rebirth the evil racist one

split mortar
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Oh we know how weaver came to be sort of

pliant ruin
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my name is weaver

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i weaved the storms

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it was difficult to escape the noxean hivemind

cloud ibex
pliant ruin
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but now i can't do anything

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but eat these stupid wyverns

cloud ibex
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they wouldn't be enemies they'd be coworkers

pliant ruin
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:true:

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i'm really interested on what's up with weaver tbh because like

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we know less about it than any of the other distorto guys really?

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Obviously Devourer is the one we know the most of, id say followed by Ceaseless

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Then it's Signus who's admittedly pretty mysterious but we know atleast most of what his central Deal is

cloud ibex
pliant ruin
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but with weaver we don't really know anything except it kind of looks like DoG superficially and its free from the noxus hivemind

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There's not much to know about ceaseless given its like by far the simplest one in concept really. It's not even a character, it's just a portal that was Probably made by Noxus
Honestly Ceaseless is less so a character and more so just a extension of Noxus as one given its literally just an Object it made

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then weaver like

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We literally dunno anything

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Why it exists, where it comes from, what are its motivations

split mortar
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The guy appeared the same time as dog and fucked the atmospheres ecosystem

pliant ruin
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It's just. yep. this is a worm from the distortion. its free from noxus's influence. kind of looks like DoG superficially but a more indepth look shows they're actually pretty different

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Why is it here? Dunno. Why is it doing things? Dunno. How did it free itself from the influence of big distorto? Dunno. Where does it come from? Dunno.

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Well i suppose

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"Why is it here" is easy to infer

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Probably avoiding Noxus

split mortar
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And where does it come from

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The distortion

pliant ruin
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No i mean like

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Not like that

young socket
pliant ruin
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Where does it come from in the distortion. Like what's its role there.
Ceaseless is a portal by Noxus. Devourer is some sort of servant to Noxus that is absorbing essence to siphon to it. Signus is another fucked up distortion being much like Noxus is with its own ulterior motives and all

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Where does Weaver come into play here. What does it do.

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Clearly it's tied to Noxus in some way, it's not like Signus

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But what it do for it

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And why it break free from his influence

split mortar
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It got humgry and broke free for the foob

pliant ruin
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If i throw weaver around like a ball will he bounce

split mortar
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Yeps

deft comet
pliant ruin
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can weaver get a new theme and can it have the freedom motif on it

split mortar
pliant ruin
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That's the main thing about it

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Somehow this mf worm broke free from Noxus's influence

deft comet
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Well when it was a part of the hivemind I meant

pliant ruin
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ah

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This beast while of lesser stature than the Devourer, is a great danger in its own right.
They are clearly of the same species. Even this serpent was known to devour Wyverns whole.
Very little is known about the realm or space that the Great Devourer hails from.
Even Draedon and his obsessive research has been unable to discern its true nature.
The Weaver slipped through a rift from this place opened by the Devourer, and he has monitored it since.
In his mind, the lesser serpent's similar powers could lead it to be too threatening for him to let live.
Little does he know, he has forever stood in a similar position. He thinks himself invincible after all.

split mortar
pliant ruin
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Devourer seems to not be a big fan of weaver

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In his mind, the lesser serpent's similar powers could lead it to be too threatening for him to let live.

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This specifically is

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interesting

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Devourer has been monitoring Weaver and seems to be fully intent on killing it eventually

split mortar
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So weaver is a threat despite just existing

pliant ruin
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What does bro mean by Similar Powers though
I mean i guess this could just be Yharim being a dumbass again but assuming he's right here

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Devourer is threatened by Weaver's "similar powers"

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or well

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feels threatened

deft comet
pliant ruin
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Yeah

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weaver lore item

split mortar
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The implications of dog feeling threatened feels too big for the devs to just chalk up to
Yharim dumb

deft comet
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Cause it directly contradicts what Draedon tells us about weaver

pliant ruin
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They are clearly of the same species. Even this serpent was known to devour Wyverns whole.

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Only this does

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And that was in fact just Yharim being a dumbass

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Which is why i said

split mortar
pliant ruin
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Superficially they're very similar (Yharim's commentary) but upon closer inspection they're actually different type of beings (Draedon's commentary)

deft comet
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If that was wrong its likely the rest could be, also DoG would likely not give its true intentions about weaver

split mortar
deft comet
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Draedon even comments about how DoG gets very defensive over direct information about the distortion

pliant ruin
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Okay so

  • Weaver is superficially similar to DoG - Similar enough for Yharim to confidently say they're the same species
  • Devourer feels threatened by Weaver's very existence due to their "Similar powers", and it seems like DoG is fully intent on killing Weaver if he feels as if he needs to
  • Weaver seemingly is fully free from any sort of higher influences from the Distortion, such as Noxus
pliant ruin
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What benefit does he get from it

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If anything

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Him being very intent on killing weaver and monitoring it

Is like extremely sus

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Why would he do that

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It's just making him more sus than he already is for Yharim

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And yeah just chalking it up to

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"Yharim is dumb!" would just be like. frankly really lame lol

deft comet
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DoG is known to lie though which is why I'm hesitant to believe much it says

pliant ruin
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You don't just drop such a huge implication like that and just go "yeah sorry guys yharim is dumb"

cloud ibex
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crack theory: SW is a normal creature not from the distortion that got abducted somehow and was in the process of being transformed into a DoG-esque creature but escaped before the transformation could be finished

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works cited: picture of a crack pipe

split mortar
deft comet
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Except for its not because Draedon directly talks about how Yharim was wrong in the lore even if indirectly

pliant ruin
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Yeah he does in. weaver and devourer being the same species

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Which is

Nowhere near as much of a huge implication as this

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If anything, that's what most people would assume without having even read the lore item

deft comet
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I think its supposed to tell us that something doesn't add up about the distortion and the information we have about it

pliant ruin
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And it actually makes sense. Like

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Weaver and DoG

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do

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in fact

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look superficially similar

young socket
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dog is known to lie when its things regarding noxus

split mortar
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Im not against the idea weaver was gonna be a dog like creature that fill same role that dog would have

pliant ruin
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The Weaver and DoG being the same species makes sense

young socket
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if anything, dog lying just further improves the chance that weaver is more important than what is being let on

mighty zenith
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weaver is actually noxus

pliant ruin
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But Yharim just saying that nad it just being a complete misdirection or lie is just

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Gonna be completely honest here that's just bad writing 😭

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It's not leading up to anything

split mortar
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DoG is a creature purposed by noxus
That feeling threatened has a lotta implications and yeah it going nowhere is just bad

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I was avoiding that card of it not going anywhere being bad writing but yeah i agree

deft comet
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Again DoG is known to lie even about things that can be proven false easily

pliant ruin
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DoG is known to lie but why would he

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What benefit does he get from this

split mortar
pliant ruin
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Again

deft comet
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It speaking about anything distortion related I would never believe

pliant ruin
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Him lying about this is just worse for him

cloud ibex
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i think it'd be weird for him to lie about feeling threatened by SW of all things

pliant ruin
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^

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Why would he ever do that

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He's literally John Ego

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Why would he lie about feeling threatened about something

cloud ibex
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if he knew sw posed no threat you know that mf would be bragging about it

pliant ruin
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^^^

split mortar
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The guy would brag to high hell and back that the super strong distortion super animal poses zero threat to the guy

pliant ruin
split mortar
deft comet
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Idk i think Draedon is just right and they are not the same

pliant ruin
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?

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What

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Nobody said they were

split mortar
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Draedon never refutes what we on about

pliant ruin
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Because yeah thats literally true they're rnot

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That's not whjat are we talking about

split mortar
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They arent the same species

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Doesnt mean they cant threaten eachother by having similar roles

cloud ibex
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they aren't the same but they seem to be similar

pliant ruin
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reading comprehension devil

cloud ibex
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and that's far more interesting than DoG being merely a grown SW

pliant ruin
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For whatever reason, DoG seems to feel threatened by Weaver

cloud ibex
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DoG feels threatened by Weaver and the two are similar enough for Yharim to mistake them for being the same species

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that's gotta mean Something

pliant ruin
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yep

split mortar
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Idk

cloud ibex
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like yharim might not know shit about biology but he's not braindead

pliant ruin
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And like yeah, going of the fact they're both flying worm things from the distortion

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Yeah they absolutely are superficially similar

split mortar
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Yharim could prob tell dog feels threatened even if dog lied in words

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Due to

pliant ruin
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DoG out of all people feeling threatened by something is

yeah

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Something's going on in there

cloud ibex
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i'd wager Yharim is good at reading people and DoG is known to be dogshit at lying

pliant ruin
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I imagine DoG would if anything

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try to mask this

pliant ruin
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Like act in a way to make it seem like he dosen't feel threatened by it

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but Yharim would uh

be able to tell

split mortar
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Yharim bad at biology but good with reading people

deft comet
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I mean I guess DoG could be threatened by the information someone like Draedon could gather from it

split mortar
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If dog did lie about feeling threatened yharim would prob be able to just
Tell

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Also weaver is older then dog iirc
Just more info to throw in cause bit relevant

deft comet
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Yeah I still think its something about the information SW could give about the distortion over it being powerful in some way

split mortar
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maybe its not weaver could grow and kill dog but replaces dog by being better at its purpose or something

cloud ibex
deft comet
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Its possible they serve similar purposes I mean it does eat wyverns so it may have something to do with soul transferring like DoG

young socket
# young socket dog is known to lie when its things regarding noxus

every dog lie
creation of cv: hiding the fact that noxus exists
permanence of cv: hiding the fact that a distortion being is more powerful than it
braelor and statis being as good as dead: technically not a lie, its entirely possible he didnt know signus had connections to the onyx kinsmen
saying the essence he consumed was destroyed: didnt want to know it was being transported somewhere

cloud ibex
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DoG isn't afraid of SW itself, he's afraid of being replaced

young socket
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so yea literally every lie he has said is

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related to noxus

deft comet
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Yeah so

split mortar
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If dog gets replaced then like
The guy may just get killed by noxus

deft comet
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Every major piece of information he has ever given about himself was a lie in someway no?

young socket
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well no

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he was very upfront with the fact that he was from the distortion

split mortar
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And yharim could see through all but one so i see it reasonable that yharim would see through the feels threatened lie if it is one

deft comet
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Well yes but he does not give much information about the disruption past that

pliant ruin
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I don't think it's about Weaver being ultra powerful

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I think it's about:

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Whatever Weaver is, it somehow threaten's DoG's purpose

young socket
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also keep in mind

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draedon has a whole paragraph about weaver specifically being older than dog

pliant ruin
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And again

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the lesser serpent's similar powers

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This

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similar powers

split mortar
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Weaver absolutely could encroach on dogs purpose

deft comet
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Yes portals and eating of souls of flight most likely

pliant ruin
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Okay so

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  • Weaver isn't following Noxus and is seemingly fully independent
  • Devourer feels threatened by it due to their "similar powers"
  • Weaver is older than Devourer is
young socket
deft comet
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Similar power in soul consumption then

pliant ruin
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What if Weaver could absorb essence the same way Devourer can and it felt threatened by it because it means Weaver could permanently gate Devourer from sending Essence to Noxus
If Weaver consumed essence, there's no way Devourer could send that over to Noxus

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Weaver could effectively ruin Devourer/Noxus's entire plan

split mortar
pliant ruin
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It'd make sense as to why it has them if it's a prototype Devourer of sorts

pliant ruin
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But it broke free from Noxus's influence

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Which means the essence it absorbs no longer goes to Noxus

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and yeah it checks out

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with weaver being way older

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And it explains why Devourer feels threatened by it

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It could singlehandendly ruin their entire plan if it just absorbed Essence before DoG did

split mortar
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Weaver?

pliant ruin
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Good question

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I assume it might just go to weaver ??

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That is kind of a hole in the theory yeah

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But it might be

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less of a hole and more of just something we'd need more evidence to definje

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But like

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to me

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this seems like a solid theory
It seems to add up with everything we're seeing here

split mortar
deft comet
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It just doesn't much sense of why DoG would keep SW alive for any period of time then

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DoG is likely much stronger than it no?

pliant ruin
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Weaver being way older than Noxus, Weaver having "similar powers" to DoG and being superficially similar to it in some way, DoG feeling threatened by it

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DoG is stronger yeah

split mortar
pliant ruin
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Regardless of it's this or not there's some reason why DoG hasn't just killed Weaver yet even though it feels threatened by it

young socket
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if weaver has absorption powers, wat if he got his lightning from eating a bunch of aerialite

pliant ruin
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Weaver is said to be

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Incredibvly fast yeah

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That's like

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dudes entire bit

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He's Really Fucking Fast

pliant ruin
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Vetrasyl offshoots.

young socket
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yes

pliant ruin
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guys .

split mortar
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Yes

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Guy weaver is old lore dog

pliant ruin
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guys he eats wyverns

guys

split mortar
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Weaver has old lore dog powers

pliant ruin
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DoG is NOT BEATING THE FRAUD ALLEGATIONS

gritty kraken
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Clearly weaver is xeroc in disguise

zenith geode
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this is true

split mortar
deft comet
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Even if SW is significantly faster than DoG, DoG has portals i feel like it would still be not that huge of an issue for DoG to kill in some way

gritty kraken
deft comet
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Maybe I am overestimating DoGs portaling abilities

split mortar
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Dog doesnt immediately emerge from them there is a bright fucking light from the portal opening for a few seconds

Weaver can just run from those lights as well no?

zenith geode
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is that just a gameplay mechanic or is that real

deft comet
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Yeah it still just doesn't add up

pliant ruin
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I mean yeah i imagine the giant fucking 500000 meter worm coming from a portal isn't it instant

deft comet
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Yharim only tells us DoG was monitoring and felt threatened but if it was that much of a big deal I feel like Yharim or Draedon would have been asked to help kill it

pliant ruin
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Whatever case it is DoG has something that's keeping him from killing weaver

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We just don't know what yet

long bloom
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why would he care tho

pliant ruin
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READ UP

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BACKREAD

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READ UP

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BACKREAD

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BACKREAD

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READ UP

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BACKREAD

split mortar
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Yharim and draedon lack the full context of dog working for noxus no?

deft comet
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What

split mortar
pliant ruin
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Also yeah he'd have to convince them to help it

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How would he do that lol

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Weaver is not harming Yharim or Draedon in any way

zenith geode
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this clearly means that storm weaver negdiffs dog and noxus

deft comet
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Draedon is easy, its a distortion creature similar to itself draedon could study

pliant ruin
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They would absolutely not help just out of goodwill

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In which case

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Draedon wouldn't want to kill it

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:p

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And Draedon is smart enough to tell that Devourer has ulterior motives

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So is Yharim

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They know he's a lying bastard

long bloom
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they just don't know what he's lying about specifically

pliant ruin
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Devourer would need to make an extremely good case to get them to help him kill weaver

zenith geode
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dog is also really useful

deft comet
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Well yeah but I mean he has lied about far greater things and still been allowed to do them

pliant ruin
#

Because otherwise they would (rightfully) not trust his motives

#

They'd know something's up, even if they wound't know exactly what

zenith geode
#

you can see what happens when you don't get rid of godly essence properly

deft comet
#

Like consuming God souls when Draedon directly comments about how they likely are just being transported

pliant ruin
#

Yeah but in that case

#

There's an actual massive benefit

#

Yknow

#

The evil biomes

#

Yharim is aware he's not telling the full truth but it's a indisposable help so he lets him do it regardless

long bloom
#

just build more walls of flesh clueless

pliant ruin
#

new post ml boss

#

wall(s) of flesh

long bloom
#

room of flesh

pliant ruin
#

biome of flesh

#

🔥

zenith geode
#

box of flesh

split mortar
#

House of flesh

long bloom
pliant ruin
#

i have no idea what that emoji was

zenith geode
#

when are we gonna get the hi rise of flesh

young socket
pliant ruin
#

anyways what are you

#

what's your deal

#

tell me creature

deft comet
#

I still think its just unbelievably sus that DoG put an emphasis on its feeling threatened and monitoring of SW while doing nothing about it

pliant ruin
#

Yeah it is sus

#

That's the problem

zenith geode
#

is there any idea on how strong storm weaver's mind is
like is it sapient
is it capable of tool usage
is it a stupid idiot dumb baby moron

pliant ruin
#

For SOME reason Devourer hasn't just went out of its way to kill weaver yet

#

I'd believe we'll learn Why eventually because whatever it is it dosen't seem to be ingame yet

icy veldt
pliant ruin
#

"Storm Weaver hides itself within the fierce anvilhead clouds."

#

Boss checklist despawn message

#

Safe to say Weaver is hiding so

#

further evidence that yeah my guy is basically a fugitive

gritty kraken
#

must’ve sold his soul to weaver

long bloom
#

weaver, the dealmaker

split mortar
#

Maybe dog would kill on sight but never gotten a good shot to before it just flees to fuck knows where then

pliant ruin
#

I mean yeah Weaver is like super speedy, hes like probably The Speediest Character behind maybe the exo twins

#

So that's still on the boat

deft comet
#

Also what lore thing talks about SWs independence

pliant ruin
#

Feel like

#

there's more to it though

long bloom
#

such as?

wheat walrus
#

I'm my own god

#

The dumbassador, gremlin of maldecisions, silly programme

#

Yharim could never defeat me

#

For he'll make the maldecision of never coming to Calamity Mod

#

And will do so for eternity

pliant ruin
deft comet
cloud ibex
pliant ruin
#

If i knew i'd be saying it

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
#

I just feel like there's more to it

deft comet
#

That doesn't really lead me to beleive its independent

long bloom
gritty kraken
wheat walrus
#

😔

zenith geode
deft comet
#

Its obviously different from other distortion beings but I don't know if independent is the right way of thinking about it

pliant ruin
#

It's not servile to a higher being like Devourer is

wheat walrus
#

The devourer of gods that can't devour me, utmost fraud he stands to be!

pliant ruin
#

anyways yep something fishy going on with weaver and devourer really hates it for some reason

#

I'm sticking to my idea that Weaver is just a rebel prototype DoG of sorts for now until i hear something that has more credit to it
There's a few holes but

#

So much matches so well

#

I feel like any holes this theory does have might full well just be a byproduct

#

Of yknow

wheat walrus
#

I weave my own destiny and I clear the skies of storms! The storm weaver never stood a chance

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

Us lacking information

#

yep

cloud ibex
#

there's holes because there are quite literally pieces missing

pliant ruin
#

yeah lmao

wheat walrus
#

The One Piece is the distortion

#

Solved

long bloom
#

true

wheat walrus
#

Luffy VS Noxus or smth

wheat walrus
split mortar
#

Lore chat being loreous!

wheat walrus
split mortar
#

Wgat

#

Im being genuine
There was a whole theorising if weaver

#

Was fun

wheat walrus
#

You're like the younger bro to me

#

Funny gun

split mortar
#

You will be bit

wheat walrus
#

And you

#

Are you gonna bark or bite

#

Do you really wanna twist that knife in the belly of the monster?

#

Get tf up 🗣️ wake tf up 🔥

split mortar
#

Yeah kill that fuck

wheat walrus
#

Wipe the system and back tf up 🗣️🔥

split mortar
wheat walrus
#

Yharim is in the aerie, a "castle" in the sky

#

Yharim is done for

#

Cooked harder than the ppl who wanted him to be godking did

random mulch
#

drew yhargle again

split mortar
#

Butter

mighty zenith
distant smelt
#

I’m stealing yharim’s hair

strong notch
wheat walrus
#

yharring

#

As a child, I yharned for the genocides

random mulch
#

we need more yhar

leaden locust
#

first we cal then we amity

wanton pendant
#

What is a Calamity, but a miserable little pile of Yharim?

wheat walrus
split mortar
#

yes its lyrics in spamton neo theme

wheat walrus
#

brug

#

ig i was the one who started w the brainrotting abt music doe

split mortar
#

the terrarian

spare pier
split mortar
#

I was expecting it to be one sided as fuck in luffy favour

distant smelt
#

Calamity is like city level (apparently) so i think luffy has this tbh
Maybe
Probably

#

Plausibly

wheat walrus
wheat walrus
wanton pendant
#

Please no more Powerscalerot here. We only use real measurements.

wheat walrus
wheat walrus
wanton pendant
#

Calamitas destroyed a country.

wheat walrus
#

this time it was asked in powerscaling terms

wheat walrus
wanton pendant
#

Calamitas is Italy-tier.

wheat walrus
#

nuh uh i beat her

#

no diff

#

trust

wanton pendant
#

So you are stronger then Italy?

wheat walrus
#

i AM italy

random mulch
#

oh god not the powerscaling

wanton pendant
#

If you are Italy you don't win the matchup.

wheat walrus
#

i won

#

no diff

wanton pendant
#

She has a type advantage.

wheat walrus
#

calamity glazers 😔

#

multi-city block level verse maybe 😔 /j

wanton pendant
#

Calamitas has Spanish themes, and everyone knows Spain has a type advantage over Italy. Everyone knows that.

#

Now, if she were fighting the British on the other hand...

#

Bad matchup.

wheat walrus
#

I have higher discord bot level than my spanish friend in another server so you're wrong

#

😔

wanton pendant
#

Discordmaxxing is the opposite of strength.

wheat walrus
#

you're the opposite of strength

wanton pendant
#

I have big cylinders, how is that not strength?

wheat walrus
#

that's big cylinders

gritty kraken
#

eternal cylinder

wheat walrus
#

i did what that one deltarune character who was getting chased by a car failed to do a few days ago but several times over

#

i dodged the chariots (immeasurable speed feat)

wanton pendant
#

Cross the road?

wheat walrus
#

get home on foot wout getting ran over by cars in the dark and rain 😔

#

immeasurable speed and infinite stamina feat

wanton pendant
#

Powerscalers using a random one off hyperbolic statement explicitly stated as being a baseless claim to prove that Peppa Pig is stronger then Superman.

wheat walrus
#

forbidden class schizoposting

wanton pendant
#

Powerscalers when something is explicitly stated as being capable of some ungodly, incalculably ridiculous whatever the plot needs ability (they'll ignore that.)

wheat walrus
#

siren head solos goku trust

wanton pendant
#

I don't even know what some of those things are.

pliant ruin
#

cave dweller got this

wheat walrus
#

true chese

pliant ruin
#

he will go to goku and be like AHHH ! jumpscare

#

and gokuw ill die

wanton pendant
#

Powerscalers explaining why this thing beats Superman.

wheat walrus
#

baldi from baldi's basics vs homelander

wanton pendant
#

Homelander dies when Baldi touches him because game mechanics are 100% accurate unless it makes my favourite look bad then they're not.

wheat walrus
#

gameplay mechanics are canon ||(only if they fit my agendas)||

wanton pendant
#

Someone coming in to claim that 'The Terrarian is you' means that they can have the Terrarian killed Yharim last week as their backstory and that all our theories are stupid and don't make sense because of it.

gritty kraken
#

donkey Kong might scale above yharim chat

random mulch
#

the terrarian is the creator of the universe but he decides to come down and fuck around as a mortal because he's just that bored clueless

distant smelt
#

Oh god what did i start

random mulch
#

a calamity

split mortar
#

The terrarian

#

You

distant smelt
random mulch
#

a calamity

wanton pendant
#

My Terrarian absorbed Yharon's soul last week, why is he still here, is this a plot hole?

distant smelt
#

My terrarian cloned him 36 minutes ago dw

wanton pendant
#

My Terrarian is secretly Calamitas, why is she here fighting me when I'm her, is she stupid?

distant smelt
#

You are your own worst enemy

wanton pendant
#

I am... all of me.

pliant ruin
split mortar
#

Just bite people

wanton pendant
#

Do not bite people.

distant smelt
wanton pendant
#

Do not bite people.

inner surge
split mortar
faint totem
wanton pendant
#

Don't bite people!

faint totem
wanton pendant
#

That's acceptable.

quartz saddle
#

Hi

split mortar
#

Hello

wanton pendant
#

Greetings puny mortals.

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

I don't sleep, so what's new?

faint totem
wanton pendant
#

You, on the other hand, will wake up in Britain.

#

So who is really losing here?

quartz saddle
#

Bah alors

wanton pendant
#

What?

faint totem
#

Why did that conversation feel like one that happened at some point during the war.

quartz saddle
#

On m’oublie comme ça

wanton pendant
#

What???

#

Oh god is that French?

quartz saddle
#

Oui 🤣🤣

#

Pourquoi ?

wanton pendant
#

I don't speak French, unless the government asks, then I do. Also, this is an English speaking server.

quartz saddle
#

Je suis la seule française alors ici

pliant ruin
#

Hey my great grandfather was french if that counts for anything

quartz saddle
#

Hahaha oui 🤣🤣

#

J’aime beaucoup les anglais

#

Ils sont beau 🥰

faint totem
#

This conversation definitely happened at some point in cal lore right? This just feels like a convo that would happen

wanton pendant
#

If you go back a thousand years...

tropic oak
#

dragons

quartz saddle
#

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

pliant ruin
icy veldt
#

Eating people > merely biting people

wanton pendant
#

Say that again?

tropic oak
faint totem
wanton pendant
#

That's just what the French are like.

faint totem
quartz saddle
#

Je suis pas un robot

tropic oak
#

bro is a robot

quartz saddle
#

Non

icy veldt
#

Noli loqui Francice

#

Latin for "don't speak French"

wanton pendant
#

Looke out a bear polar.

tropic oak
#

stained

quartz saddle
#

Je peux pas abréger vous allez rien comprendre

pliant ruin
#

Gente lembra que esse é um servidor que fala inglês, por favor não utilize de outros idiomas 😊

wanton pendant
#

Is that Portuguese?

inner surge
tropic oak
#

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT !!!!!!!!!!

pliant ruin
wanton pendant
#

They're saying English is the language of idiots.

tropic oak
#

holy crap is that cheese ,

pliant ruin
#

no sorry im evil cheese

quartz saddle
tropic oak
#

evil (Portuguese) cheese

faint totem
#

Ich spreche kein Deutsch, das wird mit Google Übersetzer gemacht

tropic oak
#

cheese this stained brutal shit isnt for the weak

pliant ruin
#

damn ...

tropic oak
wanton pendant
#

Now the German speakers are here.

quartz saddle
#

Il y a de beau anglais pour moi ?

pliant ruin
#

i gotta learn a 3rd language so i can hit people with my trilingual blast

icy veldt
quartz saddle
#

J’aimerais faire des vocaux aussi avec ma voix

wanton pendant
#

Wow, you're all here just mocking me.

faint totem
tropic oak
#

i makea da music

#

mama mia

faint totem
wanton pendant
#

You speak English, it's close enough.

faint totem
faint totem
tropic oak
#

Fruity Loops

quartz saddle
#

Répondez moi les anglais wsh

cloud ibex
#

please try to keep it to english only in this server

quartz saddle
#

;-;

faint totem
#

Balls

wanton pendant
#

Féach cad a tharlaíonn nuair a úsáidim teanga nach bhfuil aithne agam uirthi!

quartz saddle
#

Bande de raciste

#

:-:

icy veldt
#

So Azafure's culture is largely based on Spain, I remember that, but I forget what Ilmeris is based on, in that regard

pliant ruin
#

its fine if u speak french just like try speaking english in a english speaking space yk

wanton pendant
#

I don't think they have it nailed down.

pliant ruin
#

Azafure is largely inspired on spain, Chrysalis iirc is greece

#

Illmeris is idk lol fish 🔥

icy veldt
#

Atlantis lol

wanton pendant
#

(I'm a Seacilian Truther.)

random mulch
#

maybe we haven't learned it yet because the devs are very committed to never letting us catch a glimpse clueless

pliant ruin
#

its australia actually trust me guys

#

amidias will say crikey!

random mulch
#

even looking at the inspiration is too spoilerous for our impure eyes

quartz saddle
icy veldt
#

Ilmeris has to be Finland, just because of that conspiracy theory that Finland isn't real and that it's just a fishing lake

drifting canyon
#

doesnt change our policies

#

if one person starts not speaking english, bad actors will start doing it too

#

please just keep chat to english for our sakes or we might need to do something about it

quartz saddle
#

Sorry, I'm just not English.

#

😔✊

icy veldt
#

"Kalamitaas perkele" - Amidias or smth

wheat walrus
quartz saddle
#

xD

random mulch
#

i'm also not english

quartz saddle
#

But I think I'm the only French woman here.

random mulch
#

the point's more that not being english is completely normal here

wanton pendant
#

I'm not English either, thank God.

tropic oak
#

dragons

icy veldt
#

Dragon deez nuts

random mulch
#

mijn moedertaal is nederlands maar ik praat normaal engels hier

quartz saddle
#

Ich lebe an der Grenze zu Deutschland.

#

But I really like the English

wanton pendant
#

What..?

frosty charm
wanton pendant
#

And don't you forget it!

visual kiln
#

hiiiiii

distant smelt
#

I may be a native English speaker but at least im not british/hj

wanton pendant
#

True, like, that would be a nightmare.

wheat walrus
#

melon death

distant smelt
# split mortar Wtfuck

America is only debatably worse rn
highly debatable but I'm only patriotic when I'm not verbal;ly tearing the place to shreds

wanton pendant
#

I'm neither American nor British, so I win.

brazen swallow
#

today I read the whole lore document in the pins and I wonder, is there any lore about day-to-day life in the factions?

split mortar
#

Tho for dead civilisations and cities

split mortar
#

Chrysadia had a storm around it i think? Blotting the sun out to more manageable levels i think
Azafure was underground away from any sunlight

brazen swallow
#

interesting

#

I wonder what it was like before yharim appeared?

#

the uhhh
deific era?

split mortar
split mortar
#

Idfk where the storm around it part came from then

cosmic zenith
#

The voices

tropic oak
#

the voices

split mortar
#

The voices

brazen swallow
#

the voices

tropic oak
split mortar
#

Deific era would have been better then post crusade imo
Cause
Yharim didnt kill half the planet

brazen swallow
tropic oak
#

there’s not a lot of information about the deific era iirc

#

draedon and his machines dropped into legend though

#

iirc 1421

brazen swallow
#

oh well

#

yeah

split mortar
#

Most our info is just this god existed and then yharim happened

tropic oak
#

off the top of my head

#

then 1781 rolled around and yharim was like whats up bitches lets get it done

#

threw hands with everyone and everything and won

#

except for like one guy HDfailure

split mortar
#

Yeah xeroc would be impossible to beat

brazen swallow
#

everyone except the ones that ran away faster than him XD

split mortar
tropic oak
#

oh, no, he murdered nigh-all the gods

#

as far as we know nobody escaped

brazen swallow
#

in theory xeroc is the closest to a god with reeeaally godlike powers right?

tropic oak
#

ya

split mortar
brazen swallow
#

I mean providence and the slime god are there

split mortar
tropic oak
#

i wouldnt put it past any of the gods to fake their deaths XD

brazen swallow
#

at least until john terraria appeared

tropic oak
#

i sure would if i were a god in that era

tropic oak
tropic oak
#

xeroc is The Guy™

#

love that guy

split mortar
brazen swallow
#

he's a deadly laser

tropic oak
#

true

split mortar
#

He is rapidly approaching

tropic oak
#

the the the

#

heart eyes

brazen swallow
#

as headcanon I like to think of xeroc as a regretful god because of how he could see the big screen after he got his powers
not sure how he actually feels about the terrarian

split mortar
brazen swallow
tropic oak
brazen swallow
split mortar
tropic oak
#

he did what he had to do to blow fovos off the map

split mortar
tropic oak
#

truth

brazen swallow
split mortar
#

The threat of a second fovos is just too high

tropic oak
#

he definitely tried though XD

brazen swallow
#

wait so who kicked fovos out again?
iirc it was zeratros but he almost dies by doing it

tropic oak
#

yeah

brazen swallow
#

oh right

tropic oak
#

they got absolutely fucked though

split mortar
#

It was a month long war against the cosmic titan

tropic oak
#

xeroc got hands……

split mortar
#

And

#

Yeah they didnt even kill the guy

#

Moonlord surviving 8 centuries without most internal organs

tropic oak
#

i really, really want the chance to actually fight a prime fovos in-game it would be so cool

brazen swallow
#

assuming that fovos had legs, he got cut in half and still was alive and punching

split mortar
brazen swallow
#

honestly quite incredible

split mortar
tropic oak
brazen swallow
tropic oak
#

well theres also asexual fovos

#

(the image where he has legs. no dick. no balls.)

brazen swallow
#

he feeds on radiation XD

tropic oak
#

and probably no butthole either cause this guy feeds on dragons

brazen swallow
#

LMAO

split mortar
#

Human leg moonlord

#

Kill it

#

Ew

#

Ew

#

Ew

brazen swallow
#

his arms are so huge lmfao

tropic oak
#

he’s lowkey built as fuck look at his arms

#

dude works out

split mortar
#

Die creature

brazen swallow
tropic oak
#

no wonder he was winning. he hit the gym

split mortar
tropic oak
#

truth

split mortar
brazen swallow
#

1 damage

tropic oak
#

i really do wonder how much damage he was doing to the dragons like specifically

#

like yeah he was absolutely dogging on them but how?

#

was he throwing hands? using his eyes, his tongue?

#

a mix of all three, even

brazen swallow
#

was it ever specified how many draglns were there? because if it was like a huge swarm of ultra powerful giant creatures the fight must've been inssne

tropic oak
#

there were thousands iirc

brazen swallow
#

there's like 7 named gods at least
each got a dragon

long bloom
split mortar
brazen swallow
#

the fight was definitely crazy

brazen swallow
split mortar
#

Better described as a war it went on for a month according to statements iirc
-# statements arent the end all be all but its what we have afaik

tropic oak
#

xeroc got hands

brazen swallow
#

I mean technically similar to what fovos does in-game except probably faster?

long bloom
#

but you see
melee = hype moments and aura

brazen swallow
#

yeah

tropic oak
#

picture a full body fovos at full power, sped up by like at least 8x

#

dude was dunking on them

split mortar
#

50x damage boost

brazen swallow
long bloom
tropic oak
#

where’s omni when you need him to do calculations

tropic oak
brazen swallow
#

oh wait yeah so it was a full scale invasion

#

like a full size version of the lunar events with fovos present

long bloom
#

1037 was just a very bad year for the dragons

tropic oak
#

something like that

split mortar
tropic oak
#

#ilovemycelestialarmy

mighty zenith
#

his twitter followers

split mortar
#

Fovos is the only character with a sliver of s chance to beat xeroc iirc
Literally everyone else has fucking 0% chance iirc

tropic oak
#

hes got aura though with only half a body

brazen swallow
wanton pendant
#

I could beat Xeroc.

split mortar
tropic oak
#

what zeratros saw before being absolutely destroyed

#

(probably.)

wanton pendant
#

You underestimate my power.

brazen swallow
#

moon lord more like aura lord

brazen swallow
tropic oak
#

auralord

#

yeah alright thats what im calling him from now on

brazen swallow
#

aw hell nah

#

"solar flare armor is a post-auralord armor set..."

tropic oak
#

see you get it

wanton pendant
#

Rangers can beat Xeroc, because with enough arrows you can blot out the sun.

split mortar
robust osprey
#

primordial dark

tropic oak
#

primordial dark

brazen swallow
#

auradust armor, nebulaura armor, solar aura armor and vortex aura armor are post-yharim armor that you get from beating full power auralord

wanton pendant
#

Deltarune.

split mortar
#

Embers mention

tropic oak
#

the roaring vs xeroc lets get it

brazen swallow
robust osprey
#

prime fovos vs titan delrarune

brazen swallow
long bloom
#

hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

wanton pendant
#

Who wins in murdering innocents; Fovos or Yharim?

long bloom
#

yharim

split mortar
tropic oak
long bloom
tropic oak
#

we dont exactly know how strong titans are anyway

#

we fought a baby XD

wanton pendant
#

Yeah but do we factor in the quality of the murder?

split mortar
#

And yeah

#

Baby gets obliterated

wanton pendant
#

How much of a percent is a baby to an adult in strength?

robust osprey
tropic oak
#

im gonna say 1037 in front of a dragon guys i sure hope it doesn’t ignite me

robust osprey
#

moonlord's ass does NOT have the light of the soul

split mortar
robust osprey
#

okay how does moonlord gets inside the titan to seal it

split mortar
robust osprey
#

and this is a 1v1 he can't throw a solar pillar enemy in

tropic oak
#

we are not doing this

long bloom
#

fovos could absolutely just punch it in half

split mortar
#

At most its a stalemate of fovos just obliterating the titan endlessly while titan does fucking nothing imo

spring helm
#

Can Fovos eat the titan

tropic oak
#

i do wonder of Noxus is in his prime currently

split mortar
tropic oak
#

or is he some…….underpowered LOSER…..

wanton pendant
#

Could the gods, assuming they worked together, band together and beat Noxus (pre-genocide obviously.)

long bloom
#

bc he's been gaining god essence since dog's creation

tropic oak
#

right right

long bloom
#

plotting something nefarious

tropic oak
#

you think he’s stronger than fovos at our current point in time?

split mortar
robust osprey
wanton pendant
#

Ok, not including Xeroc.

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

I should have specified, apparently.

robust osprey
#

shakidou plus providence may be enough to put a good fight

#

add a lot of other gods

#

they win

wanton pendant
#

Which one was Shakidou?

tropic oak
#

well, yeah, i know that, i was just thinking if he were to be stronger than prime fovos at our current time, and it seems to not be so

robust osprey
#

god of emptiness

split mortar
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Noxus can prob eat and kill a god for power since thats what it is likely doing

tropic oak
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Oh boy! I can’t wait for Dogma to come back and solo!

wanton pendant
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Dogma is obviously the real potential god.

split mortar
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God of dogma getting fucking devoured

wanton pendant
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He could have controlled the world had Yharim not disobeyed!

robust osprey
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oh yeah noxus would be probably nerfed in this fight cuz no god essence eaten

wanton pendant
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Could, and would, but never was.

tropic oak
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noxus is our current potential distortion creature