lore-discussion

[split mortar]

The terrarian is your oc

[tough path]

Yes ik that

[split mortar]

Ok

[dusk laurel]

[tough path]

wtf is the murasama and its lore about

[dusk laurel]

there is none

[long bloom]

it doesn't exist

[robust osprey]

YEEEAAAAHH

[long bloom]

there is no lore

[tough path]

whys it an item then

[split mortar]

Reference to mgrrp

[tough path]

oh

[long bloom]

bc fab likes mgr

[spring helm]

grrp

[tough path]

the calamity devvs just added it bc why tf not

[split mortar]

Literally the blade jetstream sam

[tough path]

EWW its a fabdiddy item??

NEVER AGAIN will I use that shitass sword

[long bloom]

dude

[cloud ibex]

not really

[tough path]

ONLY summoner gameplay

[spring helm]

oh boy here we go again

[long bloom]

if you avoid everything fab added like the plague then you can't play the fucking mod

[cloud ibex]

if everything that existed because fab wanted it to was dedicated to fab the entire mod would be dedicated to fab

[long bloom]

he coded a lot of it

[split mortar]

Mods am i being burned at the stake for posting the image

[cloud ibex]

i will permit it

once.

[tough path]

I keep thinking your PFP is the holy roman empire flag

[cloud ibex]

that's a new one

[tough path]

Dms

[dusk laurel]

isnt the hre flag yellow

[tough path]

yes

[vague jacinth]

why does the plague break out after golem is defeated?

seems kinda random

[young socket]

gameplay

[random mulch]

you enter the jungle in pre-hm and immediately get torn apart by a plaguebringer

[hot valve]

Hi lore channel

[spring helm]

Game theory, the lihzards were keeping the plague at bay so it gets worse after you funking kill them

[untold oracle]

Game theory

Lea is canon

[split mortar]

Lea is the terrarian and terrarian is oc so yes you sre lea canon uh huh

[queen swallow]

why doesn't deerclops have lore

[long bloom]

not canon

[queen swallow]

does everyone not care about it that much 💀

.

[long bloom]

all crossover or reference content doesn't exist in calamity

[queen swallow]

I thought eoc was crossov

wait no im atupid

[split mortar]

????

[long bloom]

no?????

[queen swallow]

stupid

eoc was added to don't straarve 💀

"straarve" 🥀

starve*

so thats why ooa* doesn't have new shit

[long bloom]

correct

pumpkin and frost moons also aren't canon in calamity
not because they're crossover, but because they're fucking stupid

this is the only exception

[split mortar]

They reference christianity and some other irl religion stuff i think

[pliant ruin]

??????????

what the hell do you mean dawg

theyre literally Perfectly Fine

[long bloom]

well they're not canon

also how do you explain the moon randomly deciding to look like a pumpkin sometimes

[pliant ruin]

how do you explain goldfish gaining the ability to walk on land when it rains

[long bloom]

evolution

[pliant ruin]

ah yes thats

thats how it works

[long bloom]

mhm

[pliant ruin]

u dont have to call everything u dont like stupid

💔

[cloud ibex]

terraria can have some silly and whimsy, as a treat

if anything cal should have more silly and whimsy

[random mulch]

real

[frank dune]

Hello

[dire sapphire]

Hello

[frank dune]

GOODBYE

300 red dmg

[violet spoke]

why the hell is there nothing there in the lore discussion

[young socket]

wat?

[dusk laurel]

nothing there new blood moon enemy

[violet spoke]

Abnormality from Lobotomy Corporation called Nothing There

[young socket]

oh ok

[cosmic zenith]

They are correct to say the Moons aren't canon, though

They're awfully specific in a what that makes their silly hard to fit/explain and only really have a neutral or negative impact on surrounding stuff

They're also holiday content

[pliant ruin]

No yeah they are in fact not canon

I just meant that saying they're stupid is... ??

I should've probably clarified that i wasn't disagreeing with them being cannon i was just disagreeing with the attitude

[young socket]

i HATE the holiday moons

theyre STUPID

what do you MEAN theyre post golem

and why is half their stuff just

really fucking strong even for post golem????

[dusk laurel]

its called seasonal humor

[young socket]

[tough path]

Im back noobs

[split mortar]

men

[pliant ruin]

women

[tough path]

How do you explain anything that occurs in terraria

Its a mythical land

mythical shit happens

The moon turning to pumpkin makes more sense than the lore on SCAL gaining her powers

[long bloom]

what about scal lore doesn't make sense to you

[tough path]

SCAL randomly obtains powers after Brimmy magically wakes up

Her powers just one day appear

[long bloom]

no?????

that's not what happened

[tough path]

Howd she gain them

[long bloom]

probably by absorbing some of brimmy's power

[split mortar]

There is an explenation we just dont have all the pieces
Theorise

[tough path]

and how did she do that

[long bloom]

other magic

[tough path]

Which was

[long bloom]

absorption spell or something idfk

jesus

[tough path]

But the pumpkin moon doesnt make sense

I rest my case

[random mulch]

we dont know how it happened cause not all of the lore is in the mod yet

[long bloom]

this does

[random mulch]

there is a reason it just hasnt been revealed yet

[long bloom]

also

[tough path]

Random teen obtains the knowledge of absorbtion spell and then absorbs brimmys power (somehow)

Spirits of halloween invading and making the moon appear as a pumpkin

Whos to say the pumpkin moon isnt its own nation or species with heirarchy like the goblins

[long bloom]

cal studied magic her whole life iirc

she would have spells

just not brimstone magic

[split mortar]

Nothing in calamity works on the scale that they do and they do more then just red light so cant follow the same reasoning as blood moon

Why did i reply what

[tough path]

She was like 8

[long bloom]

10-12

also what's your point

[split mortar]

Pretty sure no
Studied after tho

[tough path]

Ok not smart enough to fucking absorb the power of the apex elemental

[random mulch]

at least blood moons are partially a real thing (the moon turing red not a bunch of monsters suddenly appearing)

[long bloom]

why not

[tough path]

She only studied magic due to permafrost's guidance no?

[tough path]

Shes 10 she was busy making colouring books

[random mulch]

who the fuck is doing coloring books at 10 years old

[young socket]

a bunch of monsters do appear tho

[long bloom]

have you met a child before

[tough path]

Who the fuck studies magic and wizardism and knows spells at 10

[young socket]

u just never hear of em

[tough path]

this isnt harry potter mate

[long bloom]

a lot of people would

[tough path]

or star wars

Okay at the age of 10 she knows a spell to absorb the power of an ancient diety

[long bloom]

sorry your worldview is so ridiculously narrow

[random mulch]

bait or idiocy, call it

[tough path]

said ancienty diety has NO WAY to reflect or stop this spell

[long bloom]

nobody said that

[tough path]

your telling me some fuckass 10 year old outsmarts a really really old combat aware brimmy

[long bloom]

you're making things up

[tough path]

whos at the time extremely powerful

[split mortar]

Elementals are rather animalistic/instinctual beings

Only silva is sapient iirc

[tough path]

all animals know when to flee or fight

[long bloom]

the humble pitbull:

[tough path]

So brimmy didnt realise anything at all was wrong when her powers disappeared

[long bloom]

who said she didn't

[random mulch]

the humble deer in car lights:

[long bloom]

stop saying shit

[tough path]

You did by saying SCAL absorbed it

[split mortar]

Brimmy fought scal i think she chose fight

[tough path]

SCAL jumps her midway through Brimmy demolishing azafure no?

[random mulch]

this is going nowhere

[tough path]

she kinda just runs up and pulls magic out of her back pocket

and then they doa whole

perfectly matched fight

where brim kinda backs off

and then azafure is FUCKED

and SCAL finds yharim

[long bloom]

man your knees must hurt from jumping to so fucking many conclusions

[random mulch]

wrong, yharim finds cal

[tough path]

Yeah no the lore in game states she appears in his castle or some shit ''in scathed tattered rags''

He says (yharim in the lore article) she just kinda appears in his wherever all fucked up

[long bloom]

she could've been brought there

[tough path]

and permafrost convinced him to take her in

[tough path]

Who on earth could drag her there unwillingly

brought by who the Yharmy?

[split mortar]

May i add people in universe theorise scal was attuned to brimmy or something
May have not been random girl but a specific connection that somehow formed between scal and brimmy that did it

[long bloom]

who said unwillingly

nobody

[tough path]

She willingly went there

So you just said Yharim found her

now your saying she willingly went to his place

make your mind up

[split mortar]

She lived in azafure, yes she would believe yharim is good

[long bloom]

you should take your meds dude

the fuck is this

[tough path]

She would have heard of him and found her way directly to him

as stated in the lore when Yharim and permafrost decide to take her in

[random mulch]

man's thinking he's talking to a single person

[frank dune]

Lwk thought youre another person vro 😭 🙏

[tough path]

or permafrost allows it

[long bloom]

she could've willingly went with someone to yharim

[split mortar]

Lmao

[long bloom]

not by herself

[tough path]

😭 🙏

[tough path]

Who would decide to take her to his palace or whatever keeping in mind it probably was in some far off place

and she in his lore thing is shown to be extremely paranoid in pain in tattered rags

[long bloom]

it's not that farfetched

[tough path]

and her spells are like randomly shooting off uncontrolled

[cloud ibex]

always seemed to me like the implication was that from an outsider perspective brimmy suddenly disappeared after nuking the crags, the yharmy was surveying the damages and the only survivor they found was a shellshocked child standing on top of the rubble

[split mortar]

?

[tough path]

Where would his home or whatever be

[long bloom]

no?????????????

what the fuck

[tough path]

Let me pull it up rn

[long bloom]

holy shit im gonna have an aneurysm

[cloud ibex]

at which point they might've asked her if she knew what happened, she said that she fought brimmy and the yharmy thought "ay da boss needs ta hear about this"

leading to her being brought to him

[long bloom]

please use your brain
stop assuming literally everything

[long bloom]

yes exactly

[cloud ibex]

go somewhere else instead of getting pissed and insulting people then

[long bloom]

you can make things work

[tough path]

When I first saw her, she was still a girl. Prostrated in my court, garbed in charred rags as she trembled.
I could not grasp the unfathomable, raw power of the fell magics that coursed through her.

She could scant control it herself.

[split mortar]

Explodes the next person to talk with mind

[tough path]

He literally states that she appears out of nowhere

in rags

[random mulch]

explode

[tough path]

with her magic fucking shooting off uncontrolled??

Scant controll it

that means she could not control it

[long bloom]

in what world does that translate to "powers shooting off randomly"

[split mortar]

Yharim didnt know her power so evidently it wasnt literally uncontrollable

[split mortar]

Thought it meant she could barely control it

[faint totem]

It’s unstable

[young socket]

that doesnt mean shes constantly fucking shoot it every second shes awake

[tough path]

''barely sufficient or adequate.''

(scant)

SCAL could barely aqequately control this magic. Your telling me she perfectly contained it and did not at any point accidentally do something

[long bloom]

nobody said that

[tough path]

Didnt say that did I

[long bloom]

stop just saying shit

[tough path]

YHARIM DID

[long bloom]

nope

[tough path]

you fucking

omegnegf

ITS IN the IN GAME LORE

[split mortar]

You kinda did

[tough path]

IN THE SCAL lore it states

[cloud ibex]

remember that yharim is no stranger to hyperbole

[tough path]

Did I say every second?

No

I said randomly

your telling me randomly now means at every waking seconds

[young socket]

the message is literally a reply to you saying that

[tough path]

Im saying she probably accidentally shot off a few spells randomly because of the fact she could not control this power

[cloud ibex]

i doubt he literally meant that she was accidentally nuking the place

[tough path]

Which is why the whole permafrost fathership arc started

because he sees that

[faint totem]

It’s from Yharim. The man who gave the one in charge of the bestiary a drinking problem

[tough path]

and goes hmm I can help

[cloud ibex]

plus, i feel like if she did yharim likely would've had to put her down cause she was a danger to everyone nearby

[tough path]

Its the only canon written lore

you cant just ignore it

[young socket]

its not tho

[split mortar]

Pretty sure perma could just see she had 7 trillion power from rise of kingdoms concentrated into her bones

[young socket]

also again

[long bloom]

you can apparently

[tough path]

Being that it is the single only written lore about how he finds her

Where else is there canon in game lore

about their very first interaction

[faint totem]

Yharim is also an untrustworthy narrator

[young socket]

not being able to control something doesnt mean that its constantly being used

[tough path]

Yharim is very biased

[tough path]

I didnt say that

[long bloom]

^

[tough path]

I said randomly

[cloud ibex]

don't take everything yharim says literally

[long bloom]

yeah you did

[young socket]

jesus christ you did and you still are

[tough path]

I said randomly

[cloud ibex]

he does sometimes exaggerate things for dramatic effect

[young socket]

AGAIN

ITS NOT

RANDOM

ITS WHEN SHE TRIES TO USE IT

[tough path]

RANDOMLY IS NOT EVERY SECOND

[young socket]

THAT SHE CANT CONTROL IT

NOT THAT ITS SUDDENLY TURNING ON HER MAGIC

[cloud ibex]

can you fuckers stop yelling for, like, three seconds

jesus

[split mortar]

Ok how frequent of a random burst are you meaning
Cause its giving the impression of every couple seconds

[faint totem]

This is not the hill to die on Vrill

[tough path]

Every so often when shes just randomly walking and tries to do ANYTHING with her magic an unexpected effect occurs

[young socket]

yea thats

not wats happening

[tough path]

Any time she uses the magic whatsoever it does something completely random to what she wanted to happen

[split mortar]

Trying to use magic isnt random

[long bloom]

[young socket]

she isnt just walking randomly and oops! magic!!

[long bloom]

that's not what he said

[tough path]

so this 10 (or 12) year old wouldnt randomly use this newfound magic

[long bloom]

that's not what anyone said

you made that up

[tough path]

Your such a tool oml

SCANT CONTROL

means

[random mulch]

vrill just shut up already

[tough path]

Uncontrollable

so she can use it perfectly

but she cant control it

[dusk laurel]

can we just stop

[tough path]

but she can

but she cant

[long bloom]

nuance? on MY internet???

[random mulch]

just

shut

[tough path]

your telling me she can control this

[cloud ibex]

i am genuinely gonna start handing out warns if you people cannot stop arguing like this

[dusk laurel]

this is so unproductive

[faint totem]

Can we mute this guy PLEASE

[tough path]

when it states in lore she cannot control it

[cloud ibex]

shut up!!!!!!

[split mortar]

This is not productive

[cloud ibex]

this argument sucks ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tough path]

Why are you getting involved im in a conversation with @long bloom about the pumpkin moon

[split mortar]

Yeah

[random mulch]

vrill just shut up already

[long bloom]

because you're annoying everyone here

[tough path]

How about you boot off your pc and go outside instead of arguing with me about SCAL lore

Im talking to one perfon

person**

[stoic gulch]

What have I missed

[long bloom]

nothing good

[tough path]

I didnt ask for you all to start on me about how SCAL developed her powers at 10

[random mulch]

idiot tries cal lore

[young socket]

someone doesnt know how to read

[split mortar]

Leave

[tough path]

I was questioning how someone can say ''Pumpkin moon doesnt make sense'' when SCAL lore is so conveluted

[cloud ibex]

can you please just not

[tough path]

This entire argument makes no sense because ALL OF YOU have different perusions on the lore

[cloud ibex]

none of you are making it any better by insulting people

[tough path]

your all arguing with me by saying different things to eachother

I said SCAL probably couldnt control her powers

similarly to how they misuse the force in star wars or how in harry potter when they get a spell wrong something else happens

[dusk laurel]

[tough path]

She probably accidentally killed some people or probably shot off a few weak spells as she cant really channel or control it

[long bloom]

that's a rather generous misconstrusion of what you actually said

[young socket]

pumpkin moon doesnt work within the context of the story

[split mortar]

Ok bye

[random mulch]

i give up on this one

[tough path]

Neither does half of the lore of the calamity mod in of itself??

[long bloom]

what

please stop talking

[spring helm]

how come silva wears armour in her concept art but the dryad npc is buck naked

[tough path]

Aura

duh

[young socket]

because relogic

[tough path]

Bc the dryads are like grass women

vs silva the mfing

God of light

or not light

[spring helm]

????

[tough path]

life

[stoic gulch]

If there is stuff you don’t understand there is a doc here that explains a bunch of stuff

[long bloom]

silva isn't a dryad

[tough path]

Dryads wear their grass outfits bc theyre like

[split mortar]

Silva is the first dryad aswell

[tough path]

one with grass

[long bloom]

old lore

[stoic gulch]

No

[split mortar]

O

[tough path]

old lore

[stoic gulch]

I think it’s old lore

Ye

[faint totem]

Ohh

[tough path]

She wears NOTHING now anyway shes fucking dead

or

completelyt dismembered

and in the abyss

As close to death as she can be

[random mulch]

if it's old lore why is it still in game

[long bloom]

it's not???

[dusk laurel]

okay a lore writer is actually here

[stoic gulch]

Only hi cei

[manic coral]

it was literally added to the game AFTER new lore was made

[stoic gulch]

Omg hi cei*

[spring helm]

lmao

[long bloom]

cei save us

[manic coral]

and implimented

[random mulch]

wha dis den

[manic coral]

yeah

[long bloom]

it says that??

[manic coral]

that was implimented after new lore was made and implimented as said

[long bloom]

wack

[split mortar]

Oh lmao yall wrong

[spring helm]

🐟

[long bloom]

i think it means silva's not literally a dryad
just that the dryads are her followers

[spring helm]

@manic coral is this true

[long bloom]

because her being 3 things would be confusing

[cloud ibex]

no i think calling her the First Dryad means she's a dryad

[stoic gulch]

Oh yeah does dryads have any lore in cal

[tough path]

She was like the founder of the dryad order prolly

[stoic gulch]

Except followers of Silva

In some shape

[long bloom]

not currently

[tough path]

They kinda had their whole ''Cthulu vs Dryads'' lore replaced by the dragons vs moon lord

lore

[dusk laurel]

yes we know that

[snow mountain]

they smoke crack

[stoic gulch]

I know I’ve been here for like

[snow mountain]

in the grass den

[stoic gulch]

A while

[tough path]

So yeah they prolly like

dont have

much

barring yk

being all

[manic coral]

ok tbh im not gonna lie fab just kinda implimented that as a line for after killing skeletron to point out abyss chests and only really asked if it was ok after at whcih point i has already amde it make sense

[tough path]

earthy

and shit

[manic coral]

but yes it IS canon still

[stoic gulch]

Uelibloom lo- 💥

[long bloom]

lmao

[spring helm]

new lroe revealed

[stoic gulch]

Yet another showcase of the very small brain of fuckingassol

[tough path]

Which dragon did Silva kill

and soul snatch

[dusk laurel]

life

[tough path]

did the dragon have yk

a name

[dusk laurel]

no

well yes, but the writers havent made a name

[tough path]

oh

fair

[dusk laurel]

probably because it doesnt matter

[tough path]

Yes ofc it did have a name but no we never learn it

fair

[dusk laurel]

idk theres like 3 named dragons

zeratros, yharon, and vetrasyl

[tough path]

dave bill and steve

close enough

The brimstone elemental is an elemental yet lore mentions her as a goddess?

thats a bit confusing

its some NPC dialogue

[long bloom]

there's only 2 named dragons currently

yharon and zeratros

i'm stupid

someone already replied and better

[tough path]

Vetrasyl wasnt a dragon?

ah

[long bloom]

it is i just forgor

[dusk laurel]

i dont believe so

[long bloom]

ignore me

[tough path]

Is a godess not a dragon

[dusk laurel]

shes just an elemental

[tough path]

No there is text

[long bloom]

where

[tough path]

An NPC states it

theeee

I think its the angler

im not sure

lemme look

[cloud ibex]

if it's npc dialogue i wouldn't trust it too much

[long bloom]

all npc text is horrendously outdated tbf

[tropic oak]

its me . john vcmm the knower

[cloud ibex]

to my knowledge practically all modded npc dialogue is being rewritten

[tough path]

"When you defeated the ancient goddess, her children fell in the lava as a result of the aftermath. Rumors say they mutated a fish, and I'd love if you fetched one for my new lava-filled fish tank."

Brimmy had kids confirmed

[long bloom]

yeah she's not a goddess

[cloud ibex]

yea no that's just outdated

[long bloom]

this can be chalked up to angler is a dumb kid

[tough path]

Yo wtf how old is the tax collecter?

hes mentioning the azafurians dodging tax LOL

[spring helm]

that was only like 15 years ago

[cloud ibex]

cal's in a bit of a weird spot since the only lore you're supposed to 100% trust is what's in game but then a sizeable chunk of in-game lore is outdated and waiting for a rewrite

[long bloom]

azafure was only incinerated like 15 years ago yeah

[tough path]

And completely bias from yharims POV

whos like yk

mega super not very trustworthy

[long bloom]

sso save us
sso save the lore

[dusk laurel]

waiting for the lore whispers rework...

[cloud ibex]

that's intended tbf

[tough path]

Apparently the cyborg was made to fight draedon LOL

[spring helm]

they are emails now, not whispers

[tough path]

Subnautica style hallucinations

[cloud ibex]

but it is also kinda unfortunate how the biggest and most accessible source of lore is yharim of all people

[long bloom]

carrier pigeon

[random mulch]

the stone phone.......

[tough path]

@long bloom I know its over but I found the lore I saw that states SCAL made her own way unhelped to thingys home

Yharims

palace

its a draedon log

Or at least SHE **WANTED **to find him

he didnt find her

[long bloom]

draedon's logs are also kinda outdated but that could be true

[tough path]

''he seems to have bonded with the girl who arrived seeking Yharim some months ago''

page 3 ice biome lab

Discussing permafrost

Draedon ''observed'' SCAL arrives one day looking for yharim

[long bloom]

actually i think that part's true yeah

[tough path]

obvs to join the army

And thats when permafrost does the whole

No dont kill her we can train her

Im sure Yharim wanted to kill her

on the spot

[long bloom]

was yharim gonna kill her??

what

[tough path]

he states she was like full of that he fears

and permafrost convinced him to let her stay

its a conclusion

he was scared shitless of her potential

KNOWING YHARIM

im sure hed yk

dispatch of her

[long bloom]

possibly

[tough path]

but permafrost does a whole no dont we can use her

starts the permacal relationship

[long bloom]

for .25 seconds i thought you said permacel

permafrost is an incel
cei confirm

[tough path]

LOL

Permafrost incel lore confirmed

yo what

Draedon created the DOG's armour?

[spring helm]

permafrost cannot be an incel, he's too drippy

[tough path]

A request from Yharim has been delivered. An inquiry to create a suit of armor for the serpent that has joined his forces recently, the “Devourer of Gods” as the serpent calls himself. He is a bothersome yet fascinating being. And so, I have taken the opportunity so that I may learn more of his home dimension. Using materials from his place of origin, I have forged armor of immense size and durability yet extreme flexibility. It is certainly one of the most unique materials I have worked with and has advanced my knowledge greatly. Though, I have learned more than I expected to about the cosmic beast from this. Perhaps more than he wished for me to.

[spring helm]

yeah Yharim mentions it too in the DoG item

[long bloom]

correct

it's also in draetalk

[tough path]

Can someone properly explain to me the whole sunken sea lore

It makes no sense to me

Who were they the kingdom etc

why did they die

[long bloom]

it was the outskirts of a city called ilmeris

most of it was where the desert is

2 gods lived there

but nobody could touch them bc underwater

so yharim ordered calamitas to incinerate the ocean

it took 4 days but she did it

then permafrost left yharim because wtf dude

the 2 gods, otonilou and tyrian, were very nice and well liked

but they were gods so they had to die

that's basically it for now

[tough path]

Oh right

so that was the final SCAL permafrost in yharmy lore

after the sunken sea got butchered permafrost was all yo dude that wasnt very cool wtf

and the two gods died

andddd scal follows permafrost (after she tries to kill him and imprisons him)

[long bloom]

we don't know exactly why he left but you can assume part of it was ilmeris

[tough path]

probably his anagnorisis

like his yk

yo wait

this dude isnt very nice

[magic epoch]

I think Calamitas was sent to kill(?) Permafrost by Yharim, but she really didn't want to, so she imprisoned him to avoid doing so.

[long bloom]

that is correct

bestiary writer says so

[magic epoch]

I don't read the lore I just spout what I remember when I think I can help.

[tough path]

He told her to go kill him they had a crying conversation and she froze him in cryogen and hid him away

she told Yharim he was dead

[magic epoch]

I assumed this part.

[tough path]

but then we kill cryogen and the mfing permafrost ultra sigma popps out

and yharim is all YO WTF HES ALIVE?!

then yharim glazes him

says permafrost is some beast of a man and is the only reason that yharims early conquests occured

[long bloom]

permafrost is just as much of a logistical wizard as he is a magical wizard

[tough path]

permafrost is a based sigma

[magic epoch]

Yeah, we're entrapping you in an icy prison.

[tough path]

ill just wait for a boundless being to free me in like 10 years

power nap

Is the lore for how the terrarian like

appears

determined

[random mulch]

no

[tough path]

still just yk

appears as a sadistic fully grown man / woman with no plan and a copper shortsword

[random mulch]

you kinda get to choose who the terrarian is, they have no actual "defined character"

[tough path]

Im aware

its yk

an OC

but is there no lore whatsoever of the terrarians appearance

[long bloom]

nope

[tough path]

does SCAL not sense this oh so ominous appearance whatsoever

[long bloom]

you can be a jellyfish if you want

[tough path]

She doesnt notice at all when we start butchering half of the populus of terraria

[long bloom]

oh that appearance

idk

[tough path]

and excavating half of the appearance

world*

and just like

creating these grand palaces

[cloud ibex]

she does

that's the whole reason she attacks you

[tough path]

Massacring the slime god would make her see us as Yharim right

[cloud ibex]

she thinks you're shaping up to be as bad as the 'yhim

[tough path]

I guess us killing Slime god makes us seem like him

[cloud ibex]

but she chills out over the course of the fight because she sees you aren't

[long bloom]

not quite that early

probably providence

[tough path]

Doesnt the fight scale UP in difficulty till she quits

She doesnt chill out she gets harder then juds

just*

oh wait

hes a chill dude

ok I quit

[magic epoch]

hey chat, who was the terrarian again?

[long bloom]

YOU

[magic epoch]

thanks

[tough path]

So do all the NPCS see us as like

the king

or ruler

[long bloom]

not established

and probably won't be

[cloud ibex]

personally i imagine they see us as that really helpful guy who came along and built a lot of free houses and killing various dangerous Creatures around the continent

[random mulch]

maybe they see you as the ruler of a kingdom, maybe they see you as the landlord, maybe you're just some weird goblin thing who occasionally buys stuff when not in their cave or fighting something weird

[tough path]

Considering the tax collector exists.. its not free

They have to pay rent (at least in hardmode)

or sales taxes on goods sold between the NPCs

[mental palm]

Just a question where can I find the devs statement ?

[tough path]

Statement on what

like lore?

probably somewhere in this hellscape channel ngl

[mental palm]

Well, all I have to do is look for it.

[mental palm]

Yes

[tough path]

Probably in here

[mental palm]

Ok

[snow mountain]

LAND LORD

LANDLORD

[robust osprey]

not if he stays in hell

[tough path]

🧌

[plucky lichen]

I don’t charge my npcs rent yay

They all get very nice housing

Like floating gay tower

And

Wizard tower

And giant wooden lodge

My npcs love me guys

[magic epoch]

Those first two are the same, are they not?

:D

[plucky lichen]

Well one of them is floating

And one is not

[thick slate]

both gay

[gaunt sluice]

clam

Why did the tag shorten to clam

[long bloom]

it was always clam

[gaunt sluice]

Ik I just mean the tag

[long bloom]

yes

[gaunt sluice]

why clam

[long bloom]

because clamity

[gaunt sluice]

Clamitas

[long bloom]

mhm

[gaunt sluice]

Someone make clamitas photoshop

[long bloom]

that already exists

it's like 6 years old

[gaunt sluice]

Wher

[long bloom]

anyway this is very offtopic

[gaunt sluice]

Ah

[gaunt sluice]

I mean it's been off topic since lore stopped dropping

We waiting for sso now

[long bloom]

people can talk about existing lore

[gaunt sluice]

That's true

[long bloom]

also devs talk about upcoming lore a lot

[gaunt sluice]

Just most people existing here already are at least mostly up to date

[gaunt sluice]

O yea nobody told me Rebecca got a glow up

[long bloom]

wdym

[gaunt sluice]

Different pfp and stuff

[long bloom]

oh that

yeah that was like 5 days ago

[gaunt sluice]

Welp

Alrite then

[gaunt sluice]

What flag is that in your pfp

[long bloom]

nonbinary

[gaunt sluice]

Fair enough

[long bloom]

with the black part blocked by my oc

i can't do anything to fix that sadly

[gaunt sluice]

Yea

That reminds me of the time when I mentioned that Cal gives me ace vibes and Rebecca was like yea she aroace

[tall delta]

that doesnt really makes sense though

since terrarian lore is up to the player

[gaunt sluice]

Yeah she just gets stronger throughout the fight and then gives up

[eager folio]

I like to think they see as what exactly what we are: to be determined. They recognize that we're going to change the world, and they really have no choice but to wait to see in what manner we choose. For now, they live in peace, and wait

That's at least the vibe I get and really like from the last lore item—cynosure, is it?—even if yharim is an unreliable narrator. The whole brink of terraria and all that

[spring helm]

True, by that point you’ve reached like the top 5 strongest in the planet’s history, you basically get to decide what happens to the world at that point

[supple wedge]

Remind me please, why is Yharim hating on gods and goddesses?

[cloud ibex]

They all killed dragons

[cosmic zenith]

They enslaved, manipulated and almost killed him

[supple wedge]

Ok reasonable

[cosmic zenith]

And also genocided the race of the being who saved him from that fate

[supple wedge]

What species is Draedon?

[cloud ibex]

Robot

[supple wedge]

(Sorry if I annoy you people with my questions, I can't bother reading lore items)

[supple wedge]

So that makes the mechs and exomechs his children?

[cloud ibex]

No it makes them his creations

[split mortar]

If you consider building a pc birthing a child then yeah ig

[supple wedge]

But if you have kids you also create beings

[cloud ibex]

Yea but it’s different

The exos presumably have only very limited sentience so that they don’t need Draedon to constantly issue commands on the battle field and the normal mechs have actual people’s souls in them

[split mortar]

Dont worry theyre by yharim the items arent too trustworthy anyways

[cloud ibex]

Plus calling them his children implies a level of emotional connection I simply don’t believe he’s capable of having

[supple wedge]

Off topic, my headcanon for using summoning items after the boss has been killed is that the Terrarian summons the boss from a different point in time where it hasn't been killed

[split mortar]

Then thats canon for your terrarian

[mighty zenith]

the accursed image

[split mortar]

Can i

[mighty zenith]

no

[split mortar]

Ok

[supple wedge]

Fair, he fails to comprehend what warcrimes are (DUMPING PLUTONIUM INTO THE SEA), so emotions are most likely off limits

[split mortar]

The guy has emotion but it seems to be a much more limited degree
And the guy lacks the ability to comprehend morality

[supple wedge]

Good thing Yharim wasn't trying to teach him morals

[split mortar]

Yeah instead yharim got draedon to make the child chainsawer 9K (skeletron prime)

[supple wedge]

What?

[mighty zenith]

skeletron prime is the war crime machine

[split mortar]

Skeletron prime was sent to target civilians

Specifically

And the souls it has are people who were sent to burn civilians specifically

[mighty zenith]

killing civilians, burning down spaces of worship

that kinda stuff

[split mortar]

Bombing orphanages

[supple wedge]

Waiting for the Yharim face reveal where it turns out he's just default Terrarian but O L D

[mighty zenith]

thats just metal gear

[split mortar]

We wont find out yharims face

[mighty zenith]

i havent played metal gear but i think thats something that would happen

[supple wedge]

Awww...

[mighty zenith]

byea yharim's face will always be open to interpretation

in a way his armor is his face now

[split mortar]

Yeah

Wonder how a melee boss will be handled so far in the game

[supple wedge]

Maybe disabling wings

[deft vessel]

He will switch to magic clearly only for the fight

[supple wedge]

Or he'll use prototypes of the Exoweapons

[mighty zenith]

probably.not

[deft vessel]

Nah, golem ai

[split mortar]

Yharim doesnt have exo wepons iirc

[mighty zenith]

limiting wing flight maybe but disabling them altogether would kinda suck

[split mortar]

I hope some of yharims attacks are just punching you

[supple wedge]

Would give tracers a use

[mighty zenith]

those are still wings lol

[supple wedge]

But you can run with them

[split mortar]

Fly too high and yharim jumps up and slams you down

[mighty zenith]

tracers will get reworked eventually anyway, definitely before yharim is even conceptualized as a boss

conceptualized is a word right

it doesnt seem like one

[supple wedge]

Conceptualized

Yeah

[mighty zenith]

hate the english language ❤️

[supple wedge]

Autocorrect didn't change it

[split mortar]

Conceptualised

[supple wedge]

Both works

[split mortar]

I mean
We know they want armstrong and minos inspirations iirc

[mighty zenith]

that was the plan when fab was in charge

its all subject to change now

[supple wedge]

Isn't Murasama also being reworked? Or is that subject to change too?

[mighty zenith]

eventually yeah

not sure which update its planned for

[supple wedge]

Hopefully Yharim will be a good final boss

[split mortar]

Considering the devs now have freedom to make bosses and not fabsol i trust them

[supple wedge]

So that's why most bosses feel like glorified bosses of one another

[split mortar]

Yeah fabsol is notorious for re using vanilla ai

[supple wedge]

The only boss that felt original was Calclone

And SCal

[mighty zenith]

calclone is

not original

[split mortar]

Calclone just spawns the twins

[mighty zenith]

at all

she's just slightly different retinazer

and then she just spawns the twins

[split mortar]

Scal is unique yeah but the brothers phase (which is often most liked) isnt from fabsol

[mighty zenith]

people wont accept it but aureus is one of the more original bosses...

[split mortar]

Fighter ai

[mighty zenith]

youre fighter ai

[split mortar]

No im LEA CHANNEL

Whens lea channel

[supple wedge]

And I'm suffering

[spice torrent]

aureus is a decent concept

kinda poorly executed boss though

[cloud ibex]

prov has been repurposed ice queen ai for ages and yet she has historically been one of the most beloved bosses in the whole mod

[supple wedge]

Oh wait Guardians

[cloud ibex]

the reused vanilla ai thing isn't necessarily a problem in itself, it's about how you stick the landing

[mighty zenith]

tru

[spice torrent]

Perfectly said

[supple wedge]

[sinful adder]

True

[real silo]

this is why I think clone isn't as bad as people make it out to be

[mighty zenith]

i think its just disappointing tbh

like most bosses

[spice torrent]

although i do think Clone is in dire need of a refresh, fight wise and sprite wise

why is it still using that ancient eyeball sprite

[real silo]

because no one's sprited a replacement?

Is that not obvious

[sinful adder]

I actually like calclone

[split mortar]

Calclone is a fun fight
-# mainly cause twins are imo

[sinful adder]

It's not amazing, but I think it is significantly better than, say...

Aureus

[mighty zenith]

kill people

[real silo]

I was gonna mention aureus too

Just because garbo is here

[mighty zenith]

🖕

[sinful adder]

Either evil2 boss

Like. It's better than any vanilla boss before it except WoF

[spice torrent]

those are getting moved to post ML

but that isnt relevant for this discussion

[sinful adder]

Yeah. But they're also getting complete reworks, right?

[real silo]

Yes

[sinful adder]

Yeah

[real silo]

The retier/resprite/rework trio

[sinful adder]

Slightly a shame that hive mind is getting completely replaced. It's actually a decent fight

[cloud ibex]

the nb equivalent of gatekeep/gaslight/girlboss

[real silo]

Copy hive mind ai and give it to folly

[spice torrent]

i honestly hate how easy it is to accidentally fight and kill the evil bosses

they are underwhelmingly easy

[real silo]

Maybe you're just good

I don't see that as a problem personally

[spice torrent]

hive mind also bugged out pretty bad in multiplayer, letting me shred of 30% of its HP

[real silo]

Multiplayer moment

[sinful adder]

Honestly copying parts of it would be a pretty good idea. Especially the circular movement thing.

[real silo]

Birby pulling off sick flips and spins

[sinful adder]

Yeah. Exactly

[real silo]

Also the funny rain attack

[sinful adder]

Make him flip and spin around before charging

[real silo]

Honestly folly would work better with hive mind's dashes than hive mind would

[sinful adder]

Yeah I like this idea

It isn't a valid suggestion... Can we get a dev to see this and make note of it?

[real silo]

@becca you're ideas girl

[split mortar]

Circles then charges? Honestly yeah…

[real silo]

also the rain dash could be replaced with like

Feathers falling

(electric danger feathers)

And to keep the slow area denial function of the attack they could float down slowly

[sinful adder]

Yeahhhhhh

Very good

[real silo]

Dark heart and dank creeper and hivelings could go though

Unless he like

Vomits out his food or something

[sinful adder]

Of course. Not an exact copy. Replace those with the folly swarmers

The little guys

[real silo]

True

Honestly I like folly's mothron movement a lot

[sinful adder]

Give the little guys mothron movement and the big one the hive mind movement but sped up

Give him some extra monthron swoops and dashes too

[real silo]

Crazy ideasguying in lore chat

I should become dev and make it real in 13 years

[young socket]

do a barrel roll!

[real silo]

that one hollow knight enemy

[tough path]

For the way you used it no as Yharim has definetly been conceptualised. To be conceptualised is to be thought of in any capacity or imagined or even just invisioned.

The fact that Yharim is a confirmed addition to the mod (even if its in 10 years) means he has already been conceptualised just not developed

Im sure someone somewhere made some form of pixel art for what he'd look like

and people have made ideas up for how his bossfight would work

[mighty zenith]

i meant for his boss fight

but thats fair

[tough path]

The fight itself was because I made my own idea for it yesterday

it may not be OFFICIAL

which if so your right

if no Cal mod dev has actually made a prototype then yes

its yet to be conceptualised

Ts just my nerd arc

ignore me

[tough path]

https://tenor.com/view/wtdg-w-t-d-g-draedon-calamity-calamity-mod-gif-11182857831226727484

Embed fail

SHoot me now

[swift ferry]

wtdg gaster

[long swift]

Does anyone know the lore of xeroc?

[sinful adder]

Yeah. Probably the most important thing to say is that the Xeroc you see in YouTube thumbnails is fake and actually a completely different thing

[tough path]

(forgive me if ive confused him w someone else)

There was a monk. Monk finds dying dragon zer something.

Dragon (possibly) willingly gives this dude his auric soul.

Monk becomes the first ''god''

(This might be completely wrong but its from what I remember very dumbed down)

Im pretty sure the whole xeroc thing is just like the first person to become a god

[sinful adder]

A long time ago, the moon lord Fovos invaded terraria and killed a bunch of the dragons. They managed to wound it and seal it on the moon. The dragon king, Zeratros, was mortally wounded and it seemed he would soon die permanently. His monk came to him, and used a magic ritual to take his soul and become the first and most powerful god

[long swift]

Ah right I remember reading something like this in the mod thanks

[long swift]

Woah

[split mortar]

Zeratros is the dragon kings name

[sinful adder]

Dragons used to be able to be rebirthed through Yharon's power, but something about the moon lord makes that impossible (maybe it poisons their souls), and the god ritual also makes that impossible because it destroys the soul

[tough path]

Im pretty sure only yharon can

As thats his whole thing

His soul zaps away

to the thingymaplace

where Yharim is as we speak

in like an egg

I dont know if he allowed all other dragons to do it

[sinful adder]

Yharon can rebirth himself, but he was also capable of rebirthing all the other dragons to make them all live forever. He just had to be around to do it

[tough path]

Ah

So he could do it to others at will

[sinful adder]

The other dragons can't do it on their own

[tough path]

yeah

[sinful adder]

Yeah

[tough path]

it was a him thing

[long swift]

Will yharon be there when we get to fight yharim as the final boss?

[sinful adder]

No

[mighty zenith]

no hes dead

[sinful adder]

Yharon takes a decade to rebirth

[tough path]

We kill him in game

it takes yharon 10 years to rebirth

I think it can be spead up by lava or whatever

[long swift]

Aw man I wanted to see yharim flying on his dragon as we fight or some shit

[tough path]

Bc yk

Thats how he saves him

[sinful adder]

Yharim will die of old age soon even if we don't kill him, so he will never see yharon again either way

[tough path]

Yharon is not his dragon

theyre friends

Yharim doesnt own Yharon

They WERE best friends

[long swift]

mb gng

[tough path]

He may have ridden yharon but it was by will

Yharon is js his bestie

they got a divorce tho as yharon left

[sinful adder]

Yeah. I mean he probably did

Well not exactly

[tough path]

said their final goodbyes

kinda

Yharon kinda abandoned him

did the whole

bye

Im leaving now

[sinful adder]

Their souls are still attuned

[tough path]

and then yharim went to

true

yes

[mighty zenith]

yharim definitely aura farmed on yharon before slaughtering civilians

[tough path]

defo

[sinful adder]

Yharon left to try and protect yharim

[tough path]

100%

Yharim prolly knows we killed yharim

yharon**

felt it in the whatever

and he does the lore

[sinful adder]

He does

[tough path]

so hes aware

yeah

Hes aware we kill yharon so hes probs pissed

[mighty zenith]

he accepted it as a possibility but yeah it probably made him quite mad

[tough path]

To be fair he might rebirth yharon

[mighty zenith]

at least he knows yharon will come back eventually

[tough path]

Bc yharon comes out early

when they get thrown into the brimstone lava

Doesnt he

[mighty zenith]

we dunno how long he's been an egg for by then

[tough path]

Yharon emerged from his egg form early or whatever and saves yharim

[mighty zenith]

he couldve been close to revival

[tough path]

It would be a one in 10 trillion coincidence if Yharon had been exactly 10 years down to the day

[sinful adder]

Yharon cant come out that early. He was definitely already close to revival.

I mean, I would think

[tough path]

Probably near but the lava prolly sped it up

[mighty zenith]

maybe not to the day but it couldve accelerated it just enough

[sinful adder]

He can't. That's not a thing he can do, I'm almost certain

[tough path]

There might be some kinda deal with signus if he feels like it

[sinful adder]

Anyways, he's not particularly mad because Yharon sort of chose this. You can see it in the lore item.

[tough path]

considering signus's whole thing is like he can make anything happen

[tough path]

True

[sinful adder]

No he can't???

[tough path]

Apparently he can

[sinful adder]

Bro what are you on

[mighty zenith]

whar

[tough path]

Saves braelor

pulls the guy

out of the fkin

DOGs home

[sinful adder]

That's not "anything"

[tough path]

or not brae

[mighty zenith]

yea cause
signus lives there too

[tough path]

the other one

[sinful adder]

He just. Can make portals

[tough path]

his lore is being expanded or sumn

[sinful adder]

Signus can make portals to and from the distortion

[tough path]

hes supposedly much more powerful

[sinful adder]

He can't "make anything happen"

[tough path]

hes being removed from the DOG trio

And made into like

his own thing w more power yada yada

[sinful adder]

He is very powerful, but that's not because he has arbitrary wish magic

I know

You've misunderstood

He makes deals, but he can't do literally anything

[tough path]

So hes just a Grade A manipulator

And gets people to do shit for him

[sinful adder]

Yes

[tough path]

I feel like

in the mod

they need to make it so in our fight

instead of killing him

he makes a deal with us

[sinful adder]

You talk fast with a lot of short messages

It's annoying

[tough path]

Funny typing ability

🧌

[mighty zenith]

nah i think its better if we kill him

[sinful adder]

Anyways. There's going to be a certain Interesting thing that happens where we don't kill him and the fight is getting reworked too

[mighty zenith]

he's a rat bastard

[sinful adder]

Can't spoil more, not supposed to be public

(It was revealed by mistake though)

[tough path]

Considering his portal shit I doubt we even can

he probs slime god modes

and runs

Hes supposedly like insanely smart

so yk

probs knows

yo wait dying is pretty bad

[tough path]

Runs into the ceaseless void and we follow him there and fight DOG in the distortion 🧌

Make me lore owner already

[pliant ruin]

leave him alone...