lore-discussion

[frosty shale]

yup

[snow mountain]

tribunal

[frosty shale]

lorentz transformations and all that...

Now this, I don't know about

i may be a physics student but i'm also a young physics student lol

[warm iris]

You are way smarter than me is what I can see 💔

[sinful adder]

Einstein's model might be wrong, it probably is. It makes great predictions but the mechanisms behind it must be partly wrong because it doesn't work with quantum mechanics or fields

[frosty shale]

eh, I know different things than you do

[warm iris]

I'm glad I chose CS over this cause it's insane

[frosty shale]

there's not "smarter", it just looks that way cuz it's unfamiliar to you

if you were talking about computer stuff i'd feel the same way

we've all got strengths and weaknesses

[warm iris]

True but also physics is overall more complicated than computer science

Like that's just objectively true 😭

[frosty shale]

eh, it's hard to compare them

i've seen some truly mind-boggling things done with computers that i can't even fathom

physics is just... more unknown

[jaunty wraith]

Question: Is there a lore answer to what the wulfrum enemies are and where they came from?

[frosty shale]

i think they just kinda exist

[split mortar]

Made by people fighting against yharim
Theres a joke their creator is john wulfrum

[frosty shale]

you'd think they're connected to Draedon but afaik there is no connection

[frosty shale]

John Wulfrum, calamity legend

[jaunty wraith]

No, even at the beginning draedons tech was vastly better

Its made clear multiple times through tool description that wulfrum isnt very good

[frosty shale]

yeah..

I always thought they were like old machines of his that just rusted over time or something

but nope they just... suck

[cloud ibex]

shitty little mystery machines made with the sole purpose of being annoying

[split mortar]

Imo they have good tech just absolute aids materials making said tech

[jaunty wraith]

I only bother witht hem cause im a summoner main

Other then that I dont see why any other class should even bother except maybe for the rover drive

[split mortar]

The weapons are pretty cool even if not strong

[frosty shale]

wulfrum knife is decent
so is the mage one

plus wulfrum is more utility

wulfrum acrobatics pack is usable in ALL of pre-HM

[jaunty wraith]

I always end up using the golden/gilded knife for rouge

[frosty shale]

they're just fun

[warm iris]

I like Wulfrum enemies up until I beat only one boss, after that they start spawning in mass and become annoying

[frosty shale]

you can also make crystalline out of them

[frosty shale]

i mean by then you can easily two or one-shot them

[warm iris]

When you need Wulfrum, they are non existent, when you're post boss, they start swarming

[frosty shale]

true

[jaunty wraith]

That isa good weapon but its also expencive for early game

[frosty shale]

it's not too bad

50 knives, 3 diamonds, 3 fallen stars

you can just extractinate stuff or kill diamond crawlers for the diamonds

fantastic for pre-boss

and on the first three

[split mortar]

Or make diamond tree farm

[warm iris]

The thing with computers and coding is that generally, you write a list of commands that the computer reads and interprets line by line (with most popular programming languages)

[frosty shale]

ohh yes that too

[warm iris]

I never do anything with gem trees ngl

[frosty shale]

i've used them once or twice

[warm iris]

It's always extractinator

[split mortar]

I like to make some level of gemcorn farms

[split mortar]

Often diamond since finding 1-2 diamonds isnt too hard

[frosty shale]

I sometimes make ruby ones for life crystals

but usually by then i'll find enough life crystals

but hey, ruby hook ig

[split mortar]

You can shimmer gems to the lower tier so infinite diamond is infinite all gems

[frosty shale]

wait really?

oh wow I did not know that

thanks for the tip

[split mortar]

👍

[warm iris]

I actually never looked this up before but what even IS Draedon? Is he fully mechanical, or?

[split mortar]

Fully mechanical

May have been a botched mind transfer into machine we dunno

[warm iris]

Okay but was he before

[split mortar]

We dont know

All we know is
Draedon woke up
Saw their creator dead infront of them with tech in them

[cloud ibex]

draedon doesn't know so nobody knows

this is the case for a lot of things

[sinful adder]

The draedon that exists now was always mechanical. If some precursor wasn't, then they weren't draedon.

[warm iris]

I'm sure Draedon would have a meaningful convo with Ultron

[warm iris]

Ic

[warm iris]

Fuck it we ball ig

[snow mountain]

daedalus theory

[sinful adder]

Draedon first "awoke" in a cabin in a tundra with a dead person in the room. Most likely this was the engineer that created him.

[cloud ibex]

nah this has actually been brought up a few days ago and the conclusion from the writers was "he would think ultron is fucking stupid"

[sinful adder]

Interesting, why?

[warm iris]

I mean Draedon would definitely wanna learn about Adamantium, he'd talk with Ultron at least a little

[sinful adder]

Yeah, sure, but he would still think Ultron was stupid

[split mortar]

Pluh

[paper spindle]

Yo what's the right channel for like poetry stuff

[sinful adder]

Is there even one

[paper spindle]

Because I have a feeling this isn't it

[cloud ibex]

uhhhh if it's lore related i guess here works

but there is a writing channel in the art server

[split mortar]

Idk if there is a channel for writing in this server
I know fanfic and stuff of calamity is allowed here

[warm iris]

And then try to melt down Ultron or acquire some of that said Adamantium (unless it's comic Ultron then Draedon is fucked)

[paper spindle]

Aight I'll paste it here

[split mortar]

Hacks ultron

[paper spindle]

The Crimson Veil"

Beneath a moon with a demon’s grin,
Where fire rains and worlds begin to end,
Sepulchers rise with wrath unbound,
Their thundered steps shake bloodstained ground.

Wings of ruin in embers soar,
Dark seraphs cursed by ancient lore,
And at the heart of red-stained skies,
A queen of cinders, flame for eyes.

Her crown is forged of fallen stars,
His breath—an echo born of wars,
She calls the storm, he parts the veil,
Where angels weep and horrors wail.

The blades they bear are suns undone,
Each clash a dirge, a blackened sun,
While armored lords with molten bones
Turn ash to ash and thrones to stone.

A thousand eyes from shadows peer,
No gods remain, no hope draws near—
Only the pact of death and flame
Carved deep in runes that curse His name.

So sing, O sky, your wrathful hymn,
Let comets bleed and faith grow dim,
For when the crimson gate swings wide,
The End is nigh. The End shall ride.

Scal fight

[warm iris]

Comic Ultron hacked an entire technologically based species and nearly resisted a hack that was built specifically built to counter his defenses by the same people who built him

I don't think Draedon can manage that before Ultron either hacks him in return or just tears him in two

[paper spindle]

Ultron was always built different

The MCU just good at nerfing anyone

[warm iris]

That's a good thing, comic book shit is obnoxious asf with the amount of random buzzwords they use just to get a character to be strong as shit

[paper spindle]

Wasn't there a version of Deadpool that killed everyone

[warm iris]

Either that or they throw logic out the window and bring in Galactus so the new guy can kick his ass

[split mortar]

Theres prob a version of every character that did that somehow

[warm iris]

Yes and it got super convoluted and dumb to read

[paper spindle]

True

[cloud ibex]

multiverse hell

[warm iris]

My pet-peeve for any story ever is when they try to say "Oh this guy can rewrite the story" or "Hey this guy can kill the authors and readers" like no they fucking can't, ppl who take that seriously are obnoxious as hell

💔

[split mortar]

This character transcends fiction and will remove your kidneys if you don’t believe it

[warm iris]

"Dr Strange has spells that can kill the reader!!!!!!"

[split mortar]

[warm iris]

It genuinely feels like writers who add this are genuinely just fucking lazy

Unnecessarily meta

It pisses me off

[cloud ibex]

i think breaking the fourth wall is better for like

funny moments and such

like in that one movie where the turkeys go back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkey OFF the menu

[warm iris]

Yeah that's fine

[split mortar]

Or whatever undertale has going on

[warm iris]

Humor is perfect for that

[cloud ibex]

and in the iconic scene where the turkey explains how they're gonna back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkey OFF the menu

[warm iris]

I'm fine with bugs bunny and Popeye n shit

[warm iris]

Cause undertale actually makes it meaningful

[cloud ibex]

he repeats himself and looks directly into the camera just to tell you, the viewer, that he intends to back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkey OFF the menu

[split mortar]

I think they want turkey off the menu

[violet sparrow]

that schaffrillas video is the only thing that has ever happened around that movie

i think i watched it once on the airplane and promptly forgot it entirely

[cloud ibex]

in another story i have i like to imagine one of the characters (sort of a chaos god) literally entering a scene with a powerpoint slide animation and when other characters go "what the hell was that" she just refuses to acknowledge it

[split mortar]

Can i have my name be “deltarune today”

[hushed walrus]

Dumb question probably but who's perspective are the lore items from

[split mortar]

Yharim

[thick slate]

ultron hate 💔

[hushed walrus]

Ok

[thick slate]

literally tthe coolest i love robot

[warm iris]

I mean that's just how Draedon would see him

[thick slate]

fair

[split mortar]

Do keep in mind yharim is a very biased source who has some active reason to keep stuff away from us or outright lie at times
So
Take what the items say with a bit of salt

[thick slate]

ultron solos draedon

sometimes

[warm iris]

Comics only

[thick slate]

yea

i dont like the mcu

[warm iris]

Mcu Draedon could prob just hack him

[thick slate]

yea

i mean realistically what is ultron doing to an exo mech

[warm iris]

Or melt him down to get Adamantium

[violet sparrow]

fly diagonally up and down

[thick slate]

true

[violet sparrow]

i was gonna say, you can't really even say you dislike any comic book character that's been around that long unless you mean you dislike how many versions of them there've been

[warm iris]

Draedon with access to Adamantium is a scary thought

[violet sparrow]

whos gonna tell him

[paper spindle]

Hasn't he surpassed adamantium realistically

[split mortar]

The lava from the brimstone crags is nearly as hot as the surface of the irl sun and the exos can handle making hotter stuff or tanking hotter attacks

[thick slate]

i mean adamantium isnt that strong

[warm iris]

Adamantium is pretty bullshit

[thick slate]

compared to what draedons got

[paper spindle]

But there's a miracle matter meltdown inside

[warm iris]

Isn't Adamantium in the comics harder than Superman's skin??

[split mortar]

That like tears apart the atoms not really heat im oretty sure

[violet sparrow]

depends on the writer

[thick slate]

yea

you cant powerscale comics stuff

doesnt work

all written by completely different people

[violet sparrow]

just eat the slop

[thick slate]

yea

[split mortar]

How strong is mcu adamantium

[thick slate]

like this

[violet sparrow]

oirughh so full of Slop

[warm iris]

Well that version of Adamantium then

[paper spindle]

the terrarian casually dumping adamantium gear so they can attack an overgrown plant

[violet sparrow]

holy fucking shit hype moments and aura gorges myself

[thick slate]

yersss

[hasty valley]

Comic writers try not to be the most inconsistent people on this planet

[thick slate]

you get it

[thick slate]

thats adamantite

btw

[young socket]

thats right, they go back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkey OFF the menu

[violet sparrow]

they

they what?

[hasty valley]

This isn’t a regular dr doom iirc

[thick slate]

it isnt

[warm iris]

Yeah they're totally different

[violet sparrow]

its God Emperor Doom

[paper spindle]

Ah I have no eyes yet I must read

[thick slate]

yea

but actually

[hasty valley]

This is a dr doom that has absorbed the powers of a beyonder which makes him easily kill thanos like that

[thick slate]

hes literally a god

[hasty valley]

Ever noticed that

[hasty valley]

Thanos was turned into a benchmark for any OP entity

[violet sparrow]

holy shit

[warm iris]

That doesn't mean jack shit in marvel, the new guy will just show up and one shot him in an ever looping worf effect

[violet sparrow]

thanos does the griddy on doom's dead body

[hasty valley]

“Woah this dude is so strong look at how he shoved thanos’s head up his own ass!”

[thick slate]

ok,,,

but its different universes

[split mortar]

Cause i doubt its enough to match exo plating

[violet sparrow]

you could apply this to calamity mod

[hasty valley]

Problem with the mcu is

The characters are

[thick slate]

tbh adamantium is rpobably stronger,,,

[hasty valley]

A lot more powerful than shown

[thick slate]

like adamantium can withstand a point blank nuclear blast

[hasty valley]

Isn’t scal described to be

A walking tsar bomba

[thick slate]

nop

[hasty valley]

And the exo mechs are on par with her

[thick slate]

nop

i mean y ea

but she isnt that strong

[split mortar]

The maths indicate its more so
A tsar bomba (or half low end) per second for days straight as a teen

[thick slate]

also vibranium is stronger then adamantium

[warm iris]

By like a lot too, no?

[thick slate]

yea

vibranium is stupid strong

[hasty valley]

Two conflicting sources

I’ll just assume

Illmeris is a very small sea

[split mortar]

Omni did the maths and cei aims for that level when writing calamity iirc

[thick slate]

damn

[hasty valley]

Okay so

[violet sparrow]

🗣️ the evaporating sea bit will always be mid because of the limitations of terraria or the unwillingness to commit to the idea

regular ass desert

[hasty valley]

Exo mechs plating are just far beyond vibranium/adamantium now

[thick slate]

no

?

[hasty valley]

.

[violet sparrow]

trust me there's a comic book writer who disagrees with you

[thick slate]

yea

scal can output

a nuke

she cant tank a nuke

[warm iris]

Imagine you're fighting the exo Mechs one day and your sword just bounces off, Draedon hologram pops up "Oh yeah btw I went on a small vacation and discovered some cool stuff"

[violet sparrow]

why are you power scaling terraria stuff anyway its um literally 2d?

[hasty valley]

We aren’t even talking about scal withstanding the nuke

[warm iris]

It's not 2d in lore

[split mortar]

The terrarian being on par in attack:

[hasty valley]

💔

[violet sparrow]

says who

[thick slate]

i thought we were talking about exo plating

[split mortar]

The background existing:

[thick slate]

exo plating is not withstanding a nuke

[split mortar]

Scal and exos are comparable

[warm iris]

The existence of background walls and the general background?

[violet sparrow]

illusions all of it

[thick slate]

yea

not in terms of durability

[violet sparrow]

i cant touch it so its not real

[hasty valley]

i don’t think

[split mortar]

Skill issue

[hasty valley]

Exos are another glass cannon like scal is

I mean for God’s sake Thanatos’s armor can likely handle temperatures hotter than the fucking sun

[violet sparrow]

go on, go into the background

[thick slate]

guys are we really going to have the nuke conversation again

[violet sparrow]

yes

i want to see it

i didnt see it last time

[thick slate]

or the time before that

[violet sparrow]

what's the nuke conversation

[thick slate]

or the time before that

[hasty valley]

Okay so if its calculated that

[warm iris]

Why didn't Draedon just make the exo Mechs out of auric? Is he stupid?

[hasty valley]

Teen scal was outputting half a tsar bomba amount of energy every second

During the evaporation of ilmeris

[split mortar]

Auric detects mechs and explodes them iirc

[violet sparrow]

+2

[split mortar]

On average and low end

[hasty valley]

Yeah

[violet sparrow]

"ohhh hes not worthy" okay then use something else to process it

[hasty valley]

Then its safe to assume that when she’s an adult she’ll exhibit an even more earth shattering level of power

[thick slate]

vibraniums entire purpose is to absorb energy

im just saying

it absorbs and disipates it

[hasty valley]

There is a limit no

[paper spindle]

But what if you overload before it dissapates

[thick slate]

good luck

[split mortar]

I think she hasn’t grown in power much but more so skill
Which tbf
Is still gonna be a big fucking difference in danger

[hasty valley]

Adding on to this, If the exo mechs do indeed match her

And have clearly well plated armor to match their powerlevel, Especially Thanatos

[split mortar]

Apollo can make flames as hot as scals btw

[hasty valley]

Probably yeah

[hasty valley]

If thats true, it needs to withstand its own heat

[split mortar]

Draedon mentions it in draetalk iirc

[hasty valley]

What about the Thanatos beam

How powerful was it said to be

[thick slate]

also neither vibranium or adamantium are the strongest material in marvel

[split mortar]

I don rember

[hasty valley]

Judging by its color and how much it can overheat Thanatos’s nigh indestructible armor

Can we conclude that its temperatures are likely on the same level as the sun’s

[paper spindle]

Ain't no one tanking that beam

[warm iris]

Isn't there some bs heart of marvel material that tony made an armour out of?

[thick slate]

oh

he made an element yea

i was talking about uru

thors hammer material

[paper spindle]

How does that fare against the exo mechs?

[warm iris]

I'm pretty sure he made a cane out of it and Captain Marvel couldn't bend it

[split mortar]

Much hotter since just ambient lava is nearly as hot and thats just there

[hasty valley]

Its a stronger better palladium iirc?

[thick slate]

idk

[hasty valley]

And fun fact

[thick slate]

pretty strong

[hasty valley]

1 megaton nukes center are

4-5 times hotter than the core of the sun

So we’re talking unprecedented bullshittery here

[cloud ibex]

are we talking comics here

[hasty valley]

Conclusion? Judging from the data collected and possible evidences, It would be surprising that an ordinary nuke would leave anything beyond soot on the exo mechs plating

[split mortar]

Itd be like 1 attack from the terrarian

Infact deus can hit with nukes below 1 megaton of force as an average attack or something iirc

[thick slate]

nukes have like

pressure btw

not just heat

like sure it wont get melted, but it will probably get blown to bits

[split mortar]

And these attacks are concentrated and not just kaboom

[hasty valley]

Aware, the possible sheer power difference is still far too much

[split mortar]

Ima just grab the powerscaling omni did

[hasty valley]

Its possible that exo mechs would get blown away

Unless their thrusters are insanely fucking strong

[split mortar]

#lore-discussion message
scal ilmeris one

#lore-discussion message
older one but the general scale iirc

Credit to omni for making them

[pliant ruin]

deltarune in 5 seconds

hows it going lore chat

[split mortar]

DELTARUNE IN 3 MOTHERFUCKING SECONDS

[split mortar]

Draedon vs adamantium from marvel

[dusk laurel]

deltaw rune

[split mortar]

@untold oracle rune

[hoary berry]

can i eat deltarune 🥺

[warm iris]

Leave some for the rest of us

[untold oracle]

Lea rune

[untold oracle]

RUNE LORE

[real silo]

dune lore

[pliant ruin]

june lore

[real silo]

prune lore

[cosmic minnow]

Doesn’t the actual blast from a nuke just incinerate anything within its radius?

Like, straight up evaporate?

[split mortar]

Its so hot it would tear apart the atoms if we go by real life physics im pretty sure

Durability isnt much of a thing when the fucking atoms get torn apart and fused im pretty sure

[cosmic minnow]

So basically nothing in calamity survives a realistic nuke while within the actual blast ?

[snow mountain]

the humble amidias:

[cosmic minnow]

Amidias gets turned into f-ing fishsticks

[solar wharf]

i mean, you could argue xeroc because isn't he just pure light

[split mortar]

Apart from xeroc since the very conundrum of matter not being able to handle the energy is why draedon cant kill the guy im pretty sure

[split mortar]

We dont know

[solar wharf]

mana is also... really fucking weird, so that might also help calamitas survive a nuke?

[cosmic minnow]

Xeroc became the new yharim

[snow mountain]

new

[cosmic minnow]

just, super duper

[split mortar]

We just know xeroc is so strong the most powerful materials can barely not melt and boil when exerting the energy needed to hurt the guy as of right now (and they will grow) im pretty sure

[cosmic minnow]

Jesus

[solar wharf]

well then bombs seems to be the way? nukes are heavily limited in our civilization because there is never a need to blow up an entire fucking mountain away. i bet draedon can fix that

[cosmic minnow]

Just recreate the tsar bomb

And throw that at xeroc

See how he handles that

[solar wharf]

the tsar bomb isn't even the strongest bomb we could make

it's just the furthest we dared to cross

[cosmic minnow]

And I’m Talking abt the one before it was toned down

[solar wharf]

ye ik

[split mortar]

Yeah telefrag ultranukes are whats made a dev say draedon could probably kill xeroc in the future with enough time

[cosmic minnow]

What is the strongest ?

[solar wharf]

"could"

the strongest doesn't exist

we could make it we just didn't need to

we stopped at tsar bomb

if you want an attempt, the sundial bomb

that's an attempt to make the strongest nuke

[cosmic minnow]

Never heard of that

Elaborate

Im curious

[split mortar]

A theorised bomb meant to just end the world if detonated

[cosmic minnow]

WHAT

[solar wharf]

^

[snow mountain]

kinda based ngl

[split mortar]

Kursgasact made a vid on it

[solar wharf]

it was US plan

to like

lowkey

if russia nukes them

they'd go "nah fuck you"

and blows the bomb in their own country

which will heavily fuck russia even tho it's that far

(it'd fuck the entire world)

[cosmic minnow]

What tf creates a blast that strong

[split mortar]

It wouldnt matter where you detonate it since it ends the world

[solar wharf]

yeah

[sinful adder]

Stupid people (Americans)

[solar wharf]

draedon could probably make something like that

and just kill xeroc

[sinful adder]

Those guys suck these days btw

[deft vessel]

It certainly would be hard to give a test run to see if it would work

[cosmic minnow]

What….

[solar wharf]

you don't need a material to handle energy when the entire point of said energy is to not be exerted within a material anyway

[cosmic minnow]

No…

Lemme guess, ai art

[solar wharf]

LMAO

[cosmic minnow]

Shoot one at the moon

[deft vessel]

Or go to like Venus

[solar wharf]

and make the moon inhabitable squared?

that sounds really dumb

venus could work tho

ik its a joke btw

[cosmic minnow]

then Venus

[sinful adder]

I don't think so but they just make really bad and clickbait videos instead of making good legitimate videos

[solar wharf]

like venus is already fucked

who cares

beside it's name sucks a

[cosmic minnow]

Imagine if we discover some new elements and shit

On other planets

so loreous

[sinful adder]

I've got bad news for you

[split mortar]

We have gone far past all the stable elements iirc

[sinful adder]

We can't

Not how elements work

[cosmic minnow]

Oh

already?

[sinful adder]

Everything in the universe is made of the same elements and we found them all already

Yeah

[split mortar]

Anything else is just us throwing shit together and trying to find if we got an extra proton in a atom in the nano seconds the atoms are around

[cosmic minnow]

I highly doubt that we found all (dark matter wich serves as a loophole to a problem with the mass of the galaxies)

[snow mountain]

fr

[sinful adder]

Well I mean, there can theoretically be an endless number of elements but all the atoms past like 100 explode almost instantly

[snow mountain]

shite content

[split mortar]

We have artificially made elements

[sinful adder]

Dark matter is a different thing that probably isn't made of elements, that probably goes beyond anything involving atoms

[split mortar]

And they just

Explode

[cosmic minnow]

Probably

[sinful adder]

Anyways yeah elements aren't fundamental. We made all the ones that don't instantly explode and some that do

[deft vessel]

You know iirc some scientist made hard light

Just like 1 photon tho

[sinful adder]

What?

No

[cosmic minnow]

how tf do you make hard light

[sinful adder]

You don't

Whatever they're talking about is fake

[deft vessel]

[sinful adder]

If dark matter is made of atoms it will be atoms that we know of already

[split mortar]

Matter can be turned to energy so turn energy into matter

[cosmic minnow]

Then probably another part that makes up our world that we don’t know?

[sinful adder]

And also it actually can't be made of atoms because it has to not interact with light

[sinful adder]

Not sure I understand

[solar wharf]

i remember the video you're talking about, it was freeze not make solid (how the fuck do you make energy solid) but freezing it still sounds

you know

[cosmic minnow]

Another building block

Apart from matter

[sinful adder]

There are things we don't know about but they aren't made of atoms

[deft vessel]

Yea, i cheked it. They made it into a super solid

[sinful adder]

Please post whatever this is. There is a 99% chance that whatever you're talking about has been sensationalized or misrepresented by reporters

I think I would know if this were legitimate

[deft vessel]

Can’t, they are not allowing links

[cloud ibex]

᠎https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/scientists-manage-to-freeze-light-convert-it-into-a-solid-heres-how-they-did-it-101741943981846-amp.html
https://news.mit.edu/2018/physicists-create-new-form-light-0215
https://www.livescience.com/physics-mathematics/scientists-turn-light-into-a-supersolid-for-the-1st-time-ever-what-that-means-and-why-it-matters

fuckin curse of thoth over here with those embeds

[deft vessel]

Funkerdinckle to the rescue

[sinful adder]

Ok, this is legitimate, but calling them "solid" is wrong I think

It's not "photons made solid", it's "photons can be quantum entangled with each other when they would otherwise not interact"

[wheat walrus]

💔

ts actually pmo i think

[dusk laurel]

melon gunner

[split mortar]

Why you broken heart what

[wheat walrus]

🥹

I think this is annoying because most times out of 10 the topic doesn't remotely require you shoving my stuff into it and it's so annoying

That and the pinging me and "please scale this fucking joke"

[split mortar]

Ah sorry about thay ill stop

[cloud ibex]

omni how does my dog scale against supreme witch, calamitas

[deft vessel]

Close enough

[mighty zenith]

omni how does your day scale in terms of niceness

:D

[wheat walrus]

I just woke up

[mighty zenith]

ok

[solar wharf]

not even wall level 💔 💔 💔

[frail knot]

Did noxus also absorb an auric soul like Xeroc or is he some other kind of god that predates him?

[split mortar]

Noxus isnt a god

And the only definition of a god is one who ascension rituald a auric soul

[split mortar]

-# infact they may be thousands of years older

Xeroc is the first god

[fierce pagoda]

I wonder if we will get any extra Noxus lore in SSO

[split mortar]

Probably

[hasty valley]

We don’t know much

You could theorize that Noxus consumes god essence through DOG and grows more powerful each day

[split mortar]

God essence isnt auric so still not god

[hasty valley]

Who gives a shit about what its called its powerful enough to instantly vaporize a lot of the so called gods

[thick slate]

not me tho

[steep pulsar]

god is deadass just a title given to people who've done a thing it isnt like. a strength level

[hasty valley]

Its not a strength level more of a label for those who smoked the dragon zaza

[steep pulsar]

yeah, which is why its not allat valid to say that x think instantly vsporizes some gods like . yeh a lot of things do there are some weak gods

[feral skiff]

draedon is canonically the only character who could make a gaming computer if he wanted to

[random mulch]

he already has gaming pcs

why do you think the exo mechs have rgb

[manic coral]

hello lore discussion

yellow man bad

what a calamity

etc etc

ok i'm gonna go camp the deltarune steam page now

and vanish for a while

[scarlet pecan]

way

wat

[manic coral]

deltarune in 14 minutes

[hoary berry]

it’s only hitting me now that the hype is really high that like
i don’t even know what deltarune is other than an anagram of undertale

[split mortar]

The game toby actually wanted to make
So you could argue undertale was just some test grounds for the guy

[hoary berry]

i also know basically nothing about undertale other than sans!!! skeleton!!!! and the lore i’ve randomly seen in sscls

[split mortar]

Play or watch them eventually id suggest it heavily

Theres a good reason undertale is so popular

[hasty valley]

The point was

Why concern over such a title

When they’re practically your meal

[young socket]

whales are fish, clearly

[dusk laurel]

i mean, in a fucked up sense they are

[real silo]

Tsuki is a fith

fih

[hoary berry]

yur i fish

[hasty valley]

Calling it a test game

Hilariously understates how much undertale actually meant to Toby

[warm gull]

in WHAT fucked up sense

[young socket]

a

[warm gull]

⏲️

[dusk laurel]

Thats for you to find out

[gaunt sluice]

Have you heard of the whale shark

[hoary cape]

That's just a large shark that eats like a whale

It's a fitting name

[covert blaze]

Whales are evil fish

They know between good and bad, and they picked a side

[dusk laurel]

whales are evil since their ancestors left the water to walk on land and then they decided to return

[magic epoch]

thats not evil

thats just deciding to change your mind

[covert blaze]

yes but whales remain in the water and as we all know every creature that resides within the waters is evil by nature

[fierce pagoda]

Even Shrimp

[covert blaze]

especially shrimp

you expect me to believe that they can fry rice? without black magic? impossible.

[fierce pagoda]

I never even thought about that, how much more are they hiding?

[covert blaze]

not sure, but we must always be ready

[cunning flare]

During rematch battles, Calamitas asks the player if they want to "join her creation when the time comes". What's she referring to?

[young socket]

when u die

because shes a necromancer

[cunning flare]

Yeah but, like, what creation?

[young socket]

sepulchre

she

says that then summons sepulchre

[faint totem]

You mean bugs?

[long bloom]

shrimps is bugs

[scenic olive]

water elemental

[magic epoch]

they

[scenic olive]

[dusk laurel]

firee

[magic epoch]

no that's watee

r

[dusk laurel]

my apologies original gangster

[magic epoch]

all your sins have been absolved

[covert blaze]

Dubious little creature; up to no good

[gaunt sluice]

wait what did 2.0.5 add

[glacial rampart]

read the changelogs

pls

[gaunt sluice]

oh they made it a new section

[frank eagle]

How old is Calamitas?

now

[split mortar]

When we fight her
27-28

Or just generally late 20s

[frank eagle]

ok

[sinful adder]

DELTARUNE YESTERDAY

I just beat chapter 3 and started chapter 4

I should talk about this elsewhere but you lorers are like, my people, I guess

[real silo]

Huh you're not in sscls

[split mortar]

Yeah surprised by that

[sinful adder]

?

[wheat walrus]

he's getting kidnapped i think

[real silo]

ben found dead in a miami alleyway

[split mortar]

Kidnapping successful

[untold oracle]

The fate of all active lorers is to be kidnapped

[cosmic minnow]

Man:/

[dusk laurel]

😔

[split mortar]

Said by person who got kidnapped

[real silo]

said by person who also got kidnapped

[wheat walrus]

Said by person who also got kidnapped

[hushed geyser]

Said by me

[wheat walrus]

Do you want to be kidnapped

[hushed geyser]

Depends

To where

[untold oracle]

A society..

[hushed geyser]

Soul society

[untold oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1363609817704567046.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=lea_pat

[hushed geyser]

[untold oracle]

FKCU

[hushed geyser]

Welcome to my soul society

[wheat walrus]

Lore society

[hushed geyser]

Ill consider it im not a nerd like you buddy

[real silo]

A super secret one

[wheat walrus]

this u

[hushed geyser]

Ts is not me bro

[hushed geyser]

Its not secret if im being offered to join

[real silo]

you're being exposed to the secret

it's still secret just slightly less

[wheat walrus]

henchmen, kidnap him

[real silo]

wait you're metvox

Goober

[wheat walrus]

yes

[split mortar]

Is metvox in there?

[gritty kraken]

brimmy prime vs provider who win…

[wheat walrus]

no

[real silo]

Idk

[real silo]

The provider wins

[wheat walrus]

my internet provider is better trust

[split mortar]

We dunno where prime brimmy stands but probably beats yellow providence

[real silo]

Your service is ass and your provider is laughable

[wheat walrus]

anyways idk between prime brimmy and provi if that's what you're asking

[real silo]

Wtf is prime brimmy even

[snow mountain]

prime steak

[hushed geyser]

No (that's me btw)

[snow mountain]

well cooked

[hushed geyser]

How did you not realize

[wheat walrus]

brimmy was kinda drained of power from scal

[split mortar]

So it very well could be the raw power of scal vs providence

[real silo]

Idk haven't seen you in a while and didn't recognize fhe nick

[split mortar]

Skill vs raw power

[wheat walrus]

there's some details of this but uhhh

not sure if i can say

but one of these details is relevant to prime brimmy's power

[hushed geyser]

I'm on and off active in general

[thick slate]

gluh!

[real silo]

thumburger

hi ckoe

[snow mountain]

eokc

[split mortar]

Id say the raw power of scal can beat provi

[snow mountain]

coek

[hushed geyser]

Koec

[snow mountain]

conk

[split mortar]

Kronk

[hushed geyser]

Hey that n isnt in coke

Cheater

[fresh jacinth]

ekoc

[hushed geyser]

How many messages do i have total

[split mortar]

Atleast -

[real silo]

7 gorillion

[paper spindle]

There's only 24 possible combinations

[snow mountain]

22

[split mortar]

The hornet emote

[hushed geyser]

At least 1k

Mobile throwing show me the total

[split mortar]

25+

[gritty kraken]

Is it about crag lava

[hushed geyser]

What if i delete all my messages

[split mortar]

Dont see why it would repate to brimmy vs provi

[wheat walrus]

no

think a bit more

dont think i can answer

[gritty kraken]

Idk I thought brimmy got some influence on them and the fact that (according to game mechanic ) they ignore even your auric tier gears

[hushed geyser]

Gatekeepers aren't supposed to open gates type shit

[gritty kraken]

Probably wron

[wheat walrus]

no it's cause idunno if it was made public

if i did, i would 😔

[hushed geyser]

Damn

[split mortar]

Just @ the lore writers

[hushed geyser]

What if all the lore is a lie created by the cia

[fresh jacinth]

draedon misinformation campaign

[split mortar]

Draedon is mortal and flesh

[paper spindle]

Coke
Coek
Ckoe
Ckeo
Ceok
Ceko
Ecko
Ecok
Eock
Eokc
Ekoc
Ekco

[hushed geyser]

What if brimmy is weakened cus she's sitting in a chair and not standing

Think of how much stronger you get while standing

[gritty kraken]

Paladin ai brimmy

[fresh jacinth]

she got crippled in her fight with scal:(

[real silo]

No the chair buffs her

A comfortable gamer is a dangerous gamer

[hushed geyser]

No wheelchairs general debuff you

[split mortar]

Scal is just a better player

[real silo]

Well her chair doesn't have wheels

Checkmate

[fresh jacinth]

true

[hushed geyser]

That stone chair does not look comfortable

[hushed geyser]

Hidden

[fresh jacinth]

draedon has a gamer chair and hes fine

[hushed geyser]

They're on the back of the sprite

[real silo]

It might have cushioning

You never know

[hushed geyser]

I do know

I made it

[real silo]

No you don't

[hushed geyser]

That chair is my design

Its like the game of thrones chair

[real silo]

why did you design an uncomfortable chair?

Are you stupid?

[hushed geyser]

I'm top good at video games do I made it to weaken myself

[hushed geyser]

Yes

Checkmate atheists

[real silo]

Respectable

[split mortar]

Brimmy just diy it to be comfy

[hushed geyser]

Trust me the chair is not comfortable

Its stone and pointy

[fresh jacinth]

lava slime cushions

[hushed geyser]

Those burn

[fresh jacinth]

brimmy burns

[hushed geyser]

Proof

She doesn't drop lava on death

[fresh jacinth]

fire

[hushed geyser]

Lava is hotter than fire

Like when ace got donutted by akainu

[robust osprey]

brimmy is lava and fire at the same time

[cosmic minnow]

Anakin Skywalker can confirm

And crocomire as well

[cosmic minnow]

Though I only know of ozzatron that would get this reference

[cosmic minnow]

@royal plinth do you think crocomire would consider lava hotter than fire?

[wheat walrus]

Lava isn't really hotter than fire

It's more dangerous (depending on the case)

[hushed geyser]

I'm gonna poor lava on you

[wheat walrus]

But by temperature, fire is either comparable or hotter than lava

Depending on case

[rotund shore]

poor lava? I prefer rich lava

[hushed geyser]

This is what society has come to

Judging based on your income

[real silo]

Wow ok

Filthy aristocrat

[rotund shore]

Is the Celestial Onion canon

[split mortar]

it could reasonably be canon but theres nothing saying it is or isnt canon

[crimson junco]

onion dishes are canon

[random mulch]

starlight river and calamity compatability but the only thing it does is make the celestial onion a cooking ingredient

[robust osprey]

celestial onion makes all npcs cry permanently

upon use

[royal plinth]

yes??

Crazy ping to wake up to

[young socket]

morning

[robust osprey]

good mornin

[mighty zenith]

quite... calamitous...

[split mortar]

what a calamity

[robust osprey]

this is getting too calamitous

[thick slate]

ozatron

[snow mountain]

zazatron

[finite orbit]

that was ozzatronious!

[split mortar]

sending yall to hell

[mighty zenith]

we lost

control

over this channel

[finite orbit]

not my problem! LOL

anyways lore related but is permafrost woke

[robust osprey]

probably

[split mortar]

perma has a aro ace stepdaughter

[finite orbit]

he's like, the old supportive man who doesnt understand the full concept of lgbtq but supports it

and makes a obligatory "think that it's cool" joke

[robust osprey]

true

[cosmic minnow]

Lol

[royal plinth]

no you fucking didn't you're a moderator

[thick slate]

calling me a moderator is like calling merkalto a dev

[split mortar]

whats with the pinging of ozz

[thick slate]

atron

[finite orbit]

idk but i would never ping ozz

[young socket]

meow

[finite orbit]

i'm not the type of guy to bother the big important guys

[thick slate]

i cant ban ozzatron now 💔

he has a higher role then me

[split mortar]

rip

[snow mountain]

i should be able to ban anyone who slightly irritates me

smh

[split mortar]

fuck you

[crimson junco]

banning you

[hushed geyser]

I'm gonna ban you

[split mortar]

@snow mountain

[thick slate]

calmain population drops to 0

[snow mountain]

🫡

[cosmic minnow]

How

[snow mountain]

best ending

[split mortar]

why the continued pingin of ozz

[royal plinth]

excuse me is that an issue or something

actually I need to drive somewhere no more texting

[cosmic minnow]

Ozz is Not Ryan Gosling

[snow mountain]

its so sad ozzatron subsequently passed away in a motor accident 💔

[finite orbit]

wait so you're just fine with pings like that unless it's some useless dumb shit?

[thick slate]

guys i just cut some guys brake line!

[snow mountain]

his break line was cut 😢

judging from the wreck

[mighty zenith]

im sorry john control

[thick slate]

should i play control

its like the ozatron game

control reference in calamity when

[snow mountain]

sam lake will come to your house and take you to finland

[young socket]

everytime i see this fucking image of control all my brain can think of is

"HOLY SHIT IS THAT OZZATRON FROM CALAMITY MOD?!"

[finite orbit]

wait that's ozzatron?

[crimson junco]

😨

[robust osprey]

youre just a normal guy who painted its name with green

merkalto threw oranje juice on their name

[snow mountain]

what if taylor was powered by green

[split mortar]

oh thats where ozzatron comes from

[spring helm]

ozzatron was born in control???

[limpid saddle]

Im suprised none of you realised this earlier

[crimson junco]

I don't play Control

of course I don't know

[limpid saddle]

I mean in that it was really popular like 7 years ago

[crimson junco]

ok and?

everyone recognizes every popular things ever 😨

[limpid saddle]

and that implies must people would know of the game, & thus be able to recognise the box art, jackass

[split mortar]

i was busy being into terraria (and prob forgot about control)

[crimson junco]

your logic is weak so L

[thick slate]

taylor is powered by green

thi is true

[mighty zenith]

im just a

[cosmic minnow]

Just a robotkisser

[thick slate]

based

i cannot lie garbo is based for that

like ramattra from overwatch

my beloved

[mighty zenith]

its true

if society didnt want me to kiss robots then why do they make them so kissable

[royal plinth]

believe it or not I'm not fabsol

ping me at your leisure but I might roast you when I show up

tis the gamble you take

[mighty zenith]

@royal plinth hii

[royal plinth]

haiiii :3

[mighty zenith]

yayy

[spring helm]

blow up

💥

[split mortar]

fire

[finite orbit]

oh right

[young socket]

i hope you realise this will mean every lorer will ping you right now

including me :3

[finite orbit]

maybe ill ping you
maybe i won't
but atleast i know that you're not that scary as I anticipated

[mighty zenith]

never mention that you dont mind pings in a public server

[thick slate]

ozzatron more like badatron

[royal plinth]

Yes, it's 85% off right now, buy it and play it

[thick slate]

bet

[finite orbit]

my bad

[thick slate]

ozatron is scary cause name red iirc

i am not scary cause name blue green

[young socket]

what

[split mortar]

red = evil
kill ozzatron

[finite orbit]

red name + high in hierarchy + owner of mod

[mighty zenith]

waaa blood!! hyper realistic ozzatron came out of my screen and forced me to play control -85% off on steam right now

[finite orbit]

(terrifying)

[young socket]

ozzatron.exe

😨

[split mortar]

you are not scary cause you just arent

[thick slate]

ozzatron getting mod owner role moved moderators further down the role hierarcyh

[royal plinth]

this is not very cash money

[thick slate]

im only scary when i have to use capitalisation and punctuation in mod mails

[young socket]

youre never scary

[thick slate]

i can be scary!

[split mortar]

nah

[thick slate]

what if i time you out for a week and forget

[finite orbit]

trolled

[mighty zenith]

consumes u 2

[young socket]

then id go to staff mail and ask for you to be demoted for mod abuse

[crimson junco]

that's just dum dum behaviour

[thick slate]

no i just timed out melon for a week

remind me to untimeout melon

[crimson junco]

and mod abuse, and demote, and

[mighty zenith]

i would reply and then not log the modmail

[finite orbit]

why would you do that

[thick slate]

!silentclose

[young socket]

never

[mighty zenith]

who

[finite orbit]

melongun

[thick slate]

who

[split mortar]

me

[mighty zenith]

never heard of them

thats deltarune today

[thick slate]

welcome back melon

that week was quick

[split mortar]

yeah

[finite orbit]

ohhhh oh okay

[mighty zenith]

melon gun in 3 motherfucking seconds!!!

[young socket]

this thing needs to be quiet

[split mortar]

bwaaa

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1377228025468289115.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=colon3~1

[thick slate]

guys dont make me change personalities and go back to fighter jet pfp

[mighty zenith]

gayyyy

[finite orbit]

i think fighter jets are cooler

[thick slate]

really?

[split mortar]

become fighter jet with trans background

[thick slate]

do you want to discuss the intricate details of them

[thick slate]

nah

i like being a demigirl

[young socket]

ur a silly goober

[thick slate]

nuh uh

[young socket]

yuh uh

[split mortar]

[thick slate]

mreow

[hoary berry]

mrrow

[split mortar]

:3

[thick slate]

hai

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/658149075522158632.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=NekoHeyo

[royal plinth]

generally yes but I'm trying to establish a reputation clearly distinct from my predecessor

[thick slate]

dw ozzatron we all love u

u have red morningstar and thats awesome

[mighty zenith]

i accept the new totalitarian regime with open arms

[split mortar]

ozzatron is crimson themed

[light linden]

well can I ask a question then please?

[royal plinth]

pretty sure you guys were able to veto that

[light linden]

it's lore related

[split mortar]

i dont think ozz is a lore dev

[thick slate]

💔

idc

you should be up here anyway

staff mail still rules supreme

[royal plinth]

1. send message 24h later
2. it opens new ticket
3. people are now aware with foolproof evidence the mod team is intentionally ignoring you

never expose your internal capabilities in a zero trust environment

[thick slate]

!block 3y

[misty kelp]

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Jun 5, 2025, 4:06 PM

[royal plinth]

[thick slate]

SHUT UP MODMAIL

[north wigeon]

it's from control? I deadass thought Ozz was just a huge Anakin Skywalker fan or sth lmfao

[royal plinth]

taylor if you actually blocked me for 3 years then you would be setting in motion the prophecy of 28

[thick slate]

gulp

replace the dev team with clones of urself

[split mortar]

22 bee, 25 bullet and 28 prophecy

[thick slate]

omg why is it 5 DEGREES

[mighty zenith]

the staff mail uprising of 28

[split mortar]

lore chats last message should be the terrarian is you image

[north wigeon]

WAS THAT THE PROPHECY OF 28??

[thick slate]

wait can we use modmail in public chats

[light linden]

NO.

[thick slate]

public executions just dropped

[crimson junco]

😨 the end of cmt

[split mortar]

publicly execute every dev

[mighty zenith]

finally

publicly executr melon gun

[thick slate]

!contact

[misty kelp]

contact <id>

[split mortar]

NO

[thick slate]

interesting

[light linden]

anyways

[split mortar]

what is plague plating made of

[mighty zenith]

plague

duh!

idioy

[light linden]

do we know what the name of the normal ocean is in lore?

[hushed geyser]

The ocean

[split mortar]

not to me knoiwledge

[mighty zenith]

the calamitous ocean

[split mortar]

what a calamity

[snow mountain]

why would it have a name?

[light linden]

I mean

[snow mountain]

think about it

[light linden]

I can't think of a major body of water irl that doesn't have a name

[snow mountain]

its the only ocean in the playable area

the lore is up to you

[light linden]

e.g. the pacific ocean

[split mortar]

the ocean is the terrarian is you

[snow mountain]

the world is literally your canvas

thats what the trailers said

[mighty zenith]

the world is YOU!

[hushed geyser]

The water in my bathtub

[split mortar]

when will we be able to paint water

make it gay

[mighty zenith]

fountains

[snow mountain]

when dradon finishes modliquid

[thick slate]

yk paint is already coloured water right

[snow mountain]

this isn't a mispelling

[mighty zenith]

pour paint into ocean

[hushed geyser]

Good idea

[split mortar]

is shimmer trans water

[light linden]

I still want the nameless deity world water

it's so damn pretty looking

[mighty zenith]

well it trans forms things

[thick slate]

it is btw

shimmer is genderfluid

[royal plinth]

yes

[light linden]

what is infected armor plating made of?

[royal plinth]

I am marked as a writer on the team but I haven't really been active on lore since the beginning in early 2023

[split mortar]

BRUH

[mighty zenith]

kills u

[hushed geyser]

Infected armor plating

[light linden]

this is an inside joke btw

[royal plinth]

did he ask you

no he didn't

[mighty zenith]

pausechamp

[snow mountain]

why do people need answers for everything

[split mortar]

infected armour plating question strikes again

[hushed geyser]

True

[snow mountain]

even the most mundane

[royal plinth]

every April fools I change my pfp to Anakin Skywalker with a shitty red filter

[snow mountain]

think of it yourself

[thick slate]

i dont even notice

lmao

[snow mountain]

the tagline is literally the world is your canvas

[mighty zenith]

same 😭

thats funny as fuck

[royal plinth]

I believe that was always possible. I've heard legends of it in the past

[thick slate]

can non-moderators use staff mail

[split mortar]

!contact

[thick slate]

i think that would be funny

aw

[split mortar]

aw no pvp server

[snow mountain]

can i lecture about gnosticism and that one medium.com post there

[royal plinth]

probably a medium grade alloy that is particularly corrosion resistant (so zinc is a likely inclusion) and hydrophobic (so the slime doesn't stick to it)

most likely titanium based

[thick slate]

WHAT

[snow mountain]

but with germs

[thick slate]

ozz do u do chem

[light linden]

THANK YOU

[royal plinth]

no my degree is in mathematics and computer science

[thick slate]

oh 💔

[royal plinth]

but I spent too much time playing modded Minecraft so I know a lot about metallurgy and materials science by osmosis

[thick slate]

REAL

[split mortar]

the question the other lorers couldnt answer got answered

[thick slate]

osmosis is a bio term

and ever time i see it

i think of bio

and get a little sadder

[north wigeon]

actually so real for that

[royal plinth]

I mean most modern fighter jets are largely made of titanium and pbg has jet engines attached so it just makes sense to me

[snow mountain]

i need a definitive answer otherwise i will start the lecture