#lore-discussion
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needs to learn how to fight for herself
fire girl and shark boy
- Dragon that breathes a lot of fire
- Girl who boiled an ocean
- Robots
- The guy who is stronger than her in every way
dragon
i mean the metal also spews out fire
big yellow man
pee man
giant buff men counter silva
sending you to hell
heart breaking
can silva counter dog portal sneak attack
i wouldnt even call yharim a giant buff man id call him a like giant buff grandpa
like the one he did to braelor n statis
normalize drawing yharim as a old ass guy with a beard and everything
stop drawing him as a twink
To be fair
I think he looks about as old as Kaido
I don't think he's wrinkly and has gray hair but like
He's visibly 50 something
yham
like
he's still in prime condition so he shouldn't be like wrinkly or frail or even a burnt corpse basically as some people think he is
Like
(i heavily disagree not only bc, again, he's at his prime, but also, healing that sort of shit in the long term rly shouldnt b a issue. not only do several forms of healing exist in terraria but he has draedon to give him surgery if anything. plus rebirth domain.)
Kaido is 59 for reference
res this one guy
that was posted here
idk if its one piece or not
but he look similar to whati imagine yharhar looking like
in terms of physique
I talk a lot about Kaido when the topic is Yharim because I lowkey use him as an inspiration for him
They both portray a monstrous amount of power while still looking relatively grounded
ok yeah this guy
so descriptive
BURNS
idk where hes from but yeah
thats captain burns from fire force
In a world full of goofy motherfuckers with wackass powers
Fear the man who is just really fucking buff
fire force so goofy sometimes
yea everyone has fire powers but actually not really because theres a guy who can just whistle and give u buffs like its some sort of rpg
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they made a whole ass anime about firefighting
yes
Byeah in terms of portrayal Kaido is exactly what I wanna go with for Yharim. Ironically they also have similar goals
how do they firefight? with fire duh
Kaido is such a fucking beast and when you look at him, you kinda struggle a little to comprehend just how otherwordly powerful this guy is
ok guys with the mod i'm making should i give statis a kusarigama (cool) or a katana (probably accurate)
Statis can have like, 4 different weapons depending on how you look at it
yeah
I think he had like, 3 main things
i mean it calls him a ronin and then names an accessory with ninja in the name after him
A tanto, a bunch of kunais and shurikens, and then somethin extra
whats the mod
it was originally just gonna expand the slime god storyline
although very non canon and just for fun really
goozma š„ŗ
yeah i was gonna have slime god pull up after the goozma and like
steal its corpse
and then turn it into a paladin
anyway i realized that statis kinda worships slime god and stuff so i thought it might be a cool addition
guys what inferences can we make about the onyx clan?
Fight fire with fire
Hanzo the banished ronin
those wulfrum guys sure sounds like they chill af i sure hope nothing happened to them
I'm glad we have confirmation that Silva is around as strong as the end game bosses. Her losing despite being that strong makes sense given that she is better at support and weak to fire
whos silva
the life elemental
the strongest one because she became a god
...wait wasn't it nature elemental
and life goddess
you see her ingame actually
except she was reduced to planty mush in abyss
she is still alive tho.....technically
I don't think that counts as seeing her
you see her corpse
she made the planty mush
"corpse"
the planty mush isn't her corpse, she just made it
her body will be at the bottom of the abyss in a later update. She is growing back and is probably conscious
not guaranteed
the devs still haven't decided
if her corpse will be visible or not
i hope it will be tho
holy shit new abyss loot
she for sure had atleast some cash or weapons pre dying
They said it might be a background thing
Tempted to write a shitpost god
Ok I'm not going to write it but like
I had this idea of a god who was VERY VERY CLEARLY A DICTATOR
And was doing some very questionable shit
But for some reason their people just really loved them regardless and did whatever the fuck they asked them to do
And then someone rolls around to try and snap the people out of this
But just get continuously dumbfounded by how dense everyone is
god of uh
deals
who really sucks at deals
because he's actually the god of stupidity
I think giving them a really stupid domain like Sandals would be better
I'm making a reference
to a certain guy who thinks hes the best dealmaker in the world, wants to be like his best friends who are dictators, and has had most of his buisnesses go bankrupt
Oh fair lol
yknow
you say shitpost
Singapore ahh
but this could honestly go hard as fuck for a almost horror-themed god who illudes and hypnotizes people into viewing a false reality of sorts
imagine entering this god's kingdom or whatever and everyone is so joyous and happy that it's almost uncanny and you wonder why
what if they absorbed the dragon of lust and where the god of joy or something
waiter waiter
I've seen that in real life
more sin dragons
The nefarious Dragon of Lust
I live that every fucking day
Well I mean not exactly, it's the next state over
so many fanmade cal characters i have are tied to sin dragons
the deadly sins are just so fucking cool to write about in narratives theres so much cool symbolism and stories you can do with them
I wasn't feeling like writing something intricate right now so I just thought of a cool shitpost based on a Genshin video I saw
It's not really happiness though, it's more like being filled with so much hatred for people who have nothing to do with you that you don't care how much your life sucks
How many sin dragons do roy have
thats fair but the thing you intended to write as a shitpost genuinely painted a cool ass picture in my head
To be fair
Everything can be cool as fuck 
Very few concepts cannot be turned into serious stories
i dare you to make THE LORDE cool
yharim
nope they're different
Definitely need more gods and their info/designs
I think right now Cal has enough gods
Ones related to major content?
I genuinely cannot think of any other god which would actually add something to the story aside from just another side character
What about a Fire Dragon and God?
More dragons instead
Cosmore
Fire dragon already existed
Fire god also- yeah
ANYWAYS, gods that once existed but died being mentioned is maybe a good idea
Also I mean moreso gods that actually impact the story at large and aren't just
Make yharim namedrop like 30 gods that he killed
"Hey this mf existed"
We might end up making a few of those but talking purely about gods which will actually be expanded upon?
Yeah, I can't really think of any
Every role I want to cover is already filled
Whatās ecumena
what do you guys think the purpose of the terrarian (player) is? are they looking for something or do they just like to kill powerful beings?
ah
SHOW ME YOUR MOTIVATION
idk js go around killing
I think devs should make it so every instance of the word terrarian in game is replaced with y/n

Is there a list of all of em?
Afaik there's
Sea god
Electricity goddess
Ash goddess
Life goddess
Light god
Sacrifice god
Blood god (idk about this one specifically but chalice of the blood god exists so maybe)
Slime god
Space god
Space god have anything to do with distortion?
Nou
It's space as in
The space/room inside a container idk it's hard to explain
It's not outer space
Also is the distortion a seperate part of space or alternate universe?
Dunno
Still pretty new then
None of the gods are distortion related
Alr
blood god real
seperate space
Itād be pretty interesting if the distortion had a race of beings similar to the otsutsuki from Naruto
Got it
otsu WHO....
shut
You're a natuto character now
no
To put it simply theyāre space aliens that drain the energy from planets to ascend to a higher plane of existence via reincarnation
But now that I think about it the DoG is pretty similar in a way
We just don't really know anything about it until disturtle update so it could be anything
natuto
natuto
natuto
Understandable
disturtle
this turtle
Iād rather learn more about the planet and its inhabitants before the disruption tho tbh
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the dish tortoise
i'd believe it
has scales
have you seen the jungle ones
This is a dragon
They literally fly at u dawg
and are reptiles
and are absurdly overpowered
If mfing mammoths and fish and whatever wyrms are can be dragon offshoots then who's to say turtles can't
Exactly
Any new info on Statis and Braelor?
I heard they were gonna be bosses or npcs or sum
They will be npcs
Statit will be wandering merchant style
statsi
satin ribbon
Braelor will be in the distortion
I don't think anything's known about braelor besides that
Not wandering merchant, skeleton merchant
Statis will have a quest system that ends with the signus boss fight
And this update gonna be later in the year right?
the next update will be this year
but it will not include braelor or statis
those guys won't be for a while
the next update is the sunken sea overhaul (part 1)
is there a god of gambling
hakari
Think I saw a video on it, thereās new mobs, a pseudo biome between the sunken sea and underground desert, and a couple weapon/boss re-sprites?
Oh god, it's part 1?
Whar
Ok well that's still more than we've gotten in like 5 years or something
I was saying that message shows what's for part 1
It feels like it's been 5 years anyways
also new Slime God, improved Providence, Old Duke, and Aureus
No I mean I expected given how long it has been that we'd be getting it all at once
and new hell generation
?
I feel like sso being split has been known for a long while
part 2 is just hardmode stuff mostly
I somehow missed it
just wondering is the supposed person singing the song in yharons theme like yharim or sumthing
im stupid tho so
he's not literally singing in-universe but it's supposed to be yharon
the song is basically him telling yharim "dude what the fuck are you doing you're about to be trounced by this little shit"
"Hey dumbass your plan is fucking stupid this guy is about to stomp you."
i mean tbf it was yharon's plan
statis is gay
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Is this in character for draedon?
not particularly
Heād probably build robots to do it for him then use her as his new research project while also taking note on the fight and the effects that the fight had on the environment
It's the symbol of primordial light
Iirc
It's used by xeroc, but not exclusively used by him I believe
it's xanax's symbol
primordial light sigil yeah
oft used by xeroc as khamul said
xylophone truly has a taste for graphic design
that dreadon is an imposter 
without too many spoilers, whats the general story of calamity?
some guy named yharim (the one talking to you through the lore items) crusaded to kill the gods for reasons, and you're dealing with the aftermath
you can find all the relevant lore in the game
mostly the aforementioned lore items, but you should also read the bestiary and npc dialogue.
and some item tooltips have nuggets of information too
Can I call yharim big Y
Does moon lord have a name
Fovos
moon lord
As xzier said Yharim is the big bad guy and he basically goes on a genocidal spree to kill all gods based on extreme bias he has against them and you're dealing with the aftermath of a world that has been torn apart by him and his giant fucking army
he also sees himself as a hero throughout all of this because of course he does
not really, it has names that people call it, like fovos or moonlord, but not an actual name
I have a headcanon that it was also called cthuhlu
the Cthulhu of Cthulhus
No we should experiment on her
Is there a lore reason Brimstone witch and Archmage don't have any "neighbor" quotes referring to eachother? It seems odd considering they have a good amount of history. Or is it just something not given much thought yet.
Hasn't been added iirc
If The Radiance from hollow Knight and Providence were to fight, who'd win?
Type shit
Tbh, probably radiance
If we use their canon Heights, Radiance is still like Bug Sized. If we used Smash Bros size logic possibly Radiance
Providence is the god of profaned fire that got her power by absorbing a soul and didnāt do much training afterwards
Radiance was never mortal, and was ALWAYS the god of light
Her power, as far as we can speculate, is practically limitless
"what are we going to fight? The sun?"
Wings sprout from the sun
"WHAT THE F-" gets flash banged
dingggg
I was about to say something about her losing to the tiny knight but then I remembered the knight uses the endless void
It's limitless light vs endless darkness
kinda hard to scale hk when we don't really know much about the... well, scale
I mean what feats does Providence have?
She had a pretty big cult following apparently
I'm not too caught up on Providence lore, I just thought of that match up and sent it here in the void
She was able to reduce a good portion of living things into ash (which she promised to do for all)
But failed
I mean like Radiance is a god, but we don't have much precedent for how strong the Hollow Knight pantheon really is. Because they are all still bug sized, and her influence wasn't able to spread to far out of hollownest for all we know. Which is like Bug sized.
She can physically hinder the player during her fight, where the player at this point is around country level power
Radiance created an infection that killed like 99.8% of the hollownest populations
From my understanding she's targeting hollownest out of revenge since TPK steered the moths away from her and stuff
That bug sized world had some pretty impressive feats for being that small lol
Radiance is a tiny moth and providence is a 20+ meter fire monster
Radiance is also the god damn sun, and tbh radiance is in the dream realm only
I'm researching some of the scaling for Radiance, and the attack potency seems to be around Small Building level, but with greater potential just a lack of feats
Honestly fair
Would Providence be able to be infected tho?
From the way sheās depicted
That's another good question imo
Her shell is made out of some kind of root, so maybe it would hinder her
But probably not
Because she is only the crystal really
That just brought up another question
Providence vs scarlet rot from Elden Ring
On one hand, Providence is a crystal, and crystals can be inflicted by scarlet rot, on the other.. fire
Scarlet rot's natural enemy
I havenāt played Elden ring, but Iām 99% sure that some of the god figures in that game were infected
So if the enemies on that scale were infected
Than yea
I know Health doesn't exactly translate into fights 1 to 1, but even if the radiance could infect Providence over time, it is a much more daunting task than what its used to. Providence may be able to just deal what is equal to 1700 damage to it before the effects take hold.
Gods can be infected by the scarlet rot, but yeah the fire would deter it for sure.
Huh, that's interesting
provi isnt a crystal
the crystal is part of her body but the whole rock IS providence
I see, like I said I know little about provi
that's never stated
Like I only know one ashen one and it's dark souls 3
like for instance we know slime god is actually a tiny lil ball that is covered in a slimy shield
Yeah and doesn't it crystalize when it makes slime queen? Like that's when we actually "kill" it?
but it has never been said that provi is just the crystal in a rock bodyarmor
yes though i don't remember if the crystal is staying
in exchange for something that resembles slime god way more
Huh ok
I remember it being depicted like that somewhere
Besides infernum I mean
In like
Base game
One of my friends had a discussion with me about how far certain characters would get in Warhammer
you're thinking of old lore then
the crystal was her "core"
Yharim vs Promised Consort Radahn(+Miq) would be interesting.
PCR is like world level threat right?
If so he probably wins
They could match each other but it would come down to the scaling
If calamitas was in Warhammer, do y'all think she'd descend to chaos?
Miq gives yharim a big hug and boom fights done
1 waterfoul dance and he dead lol
Yeah I think raw scaling Elden Ring does just win.
But if it was just what we see on screen(For elden ring) it could be more of a fair fight. Also yeah maybe remove Miq from the equation.
Thats malenia lol
sometimes ifeel like people overestimate the strength of calamity's characters
I thought u meant like a 2v1 when u said +miq
Sometimes yeah
Again I havenāt played Elden ring lol
Yeah miquella isnāt malenia
theyāre siblings
Ah ok
Idk if its jist Hearsay but wasnt it said that if Xeroc charged up for like a week he could delete a country?
would he even need to charge for that
Time to go back to not interacting with this server for 4 months
Calamitias was kinda able to do that with a city, but she didnāt fully destroy it
And sheās canonically stronger than most gods
Didn't calamitas literally boil a sea?
Yes
We love our pyromancer š š š
Cal supremacy
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I think her energy output from that was calculated to be something like a nukeās worth every second?
Something along those lines
I donāt remember the exact numbers
I love how it's somewhat implied that after we defeat her for the first time, every fight with her is just sparring
Im not finding any sources so I think It was just repeated from someone else. Most I could find is a year old reddit comment which caps Calamity around Planetary at a stretch.
Ew forgot to crop
(Dev)
I mean yea, but think of it like this
Xeroc was also able to create boss rush literally on the fly and resurrect some of the strongest creatures in the world
- the only 2 things known to resurrect were Yharon and ravages
Ravager
Heās clearly got some kind of edge above most gods
Since either of those 2 things are considered nigh impossible by normal standards
Whoever decided to make the summon for ravager an Aztec death whistle needs to work for the horror industry.
yes, xeroc does have an edge. probably in the fact they absorber the soul of the strongest dragon, had a perfect ascension, and trained even after becoming a god
He doesnāt really resurrect them
someone fact check me pls
He just creates constructs made of primordial light to imitate them I think
i am 90% sure this is truthing
Imagine if when gods grow stronger they become less normal looking and look further from whatever their origin species is, turning more Eldritch over time as they grow more powerful
My guess would be like Planetary Xeroc, and then Continental for the heavy hitters if they really exerted themselves, like Scal and Yharim
Her highest feat is 5'2
One of my favorite tropes ever
so close! she is 5'4
Oh she's 5'4? I thought she was 5'2
Either way, I fought a short homeless orphan woman for my slave knight sword, I'm going to use the slave knight sword to kill exomechs
And they both did war crimes
Just pin the blame to Yharim and she's innocent/j
for scal? yes, considering she was manipulated into committing them as a child
Actually is there some category of war crimes that the Boiling would fit in
I feel like irl definitions wouldnāt really work for magic
It was pretty much a nuke
So I think those would apply
Gods, imagine if instead of calamitas surviving it was one of her brothers
And we fought them instead
Pretty sure one would just be Sisyphus prime from ultrakill or something
Idk much about the brothers, did they have similar potentials to her?
One was a swordsman and the other fist fought
Mii Swordfighter and Mii Brawler
Nah because imagine seeing this giant ashen goddess and being like "imma punch the FUCK out of that!"
If one of the Brothers got the power up instead of cal I have a feeling they might not have been as easily manipulated by Yharim given they were older
Well another reason why Cali was easy to manipulate was because she just lost her entire fucking home kingdom
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She was in a vulnerable state of mind, so much that even to this day she can't even be in the outskirts of the kingdom without hating everything around her and herself
That's why I equip the brimstone rose next to her lol
asshole?!?!?
Based
I had to fight her 4 times for my sword
I don't care if she's a tiny homeless orphan, I want my damn sword
what sword...
Slave knight gael's from death mode
4 tries
ya
four
green rathalos would win im afraid
Monster Hunter?
indeed
its 100% in death mode
but only death mode
Every time someone mentions Fatalis, I go out and kill him 10 times
insane user
fatasslis,,,
shrug
Gael's is also super large there's no chance you missed it
That's what I'm saying-
game broke
Also my friends said gael's sword isn't worth it since I used it for exo mechs
try again with a new calamity
I did get it, just after defeating her 4 times
its very average tbf
Which is fair, it is a reference item
the most lorificent activity
well mura is really good so that doesnt rly make sense
But like the rage mechanic it has works so well imo for exo mechs
its just kinda mediocre currently
though with Tainted its actually really good but thats more due to tainted being insane
If gael's sword gets a buff or something I'd be happy but I'm not counting on it tbh
I just use it mainly because dark souls is goated + I got my ass burnt too much to not use it
purple lagiacrus
For every 1 insult I throw at calamitas is 20 failed attempts of where she incinerated my skeletal structure
Now I know you're just saying [color] [monster hunter monster]
indeed
Why?
Probably already exists
norway
Why are there so many metal gear references?
fab likes metal gear
cause fabols is unoriginal and unfunny and stinky and likes metal gewarrs š
Don't get me wrong I love exomechs nano machine accessories, as a melee main it's a saving grace
Also is the mura canon to in world calamity?
No
silly question but lorewise how do you interpret your terrarian's story if they use a noncanon weapon
"with the power of [REDACTED], the terrarian managed to beat Yharon, the resplendent phoenix"
a weapon incomprehensible to the world's inhabitants
And no Yamato 
No tomato
Why do the elementals exist btw? Like it is similar to the dryad in some way?
manifestations of the elements of the world
Yeah but why?
hi garbo
So that I can have a group of waifus follow me 
terrarian uses its fists
basically the same question as "why does the water exist?"
it just exists
why does the atoms exist
Wrong channel
One of every summon like this (invincible spoiler)
The fuck I thought this was #calamity-addon-talk
Fuck, I must have misclicked
It happens to the best of us
you think yharim said fuck it and ate 40 pizza rolls
terrarian feeling evil think they'll kill them all
The highest feat in calamity is a very long over time thing that results in just high city level per second iirc
also have you seen the size of a city
regardless, the scale of one's destruction isn't really a good indicator for power
wait can anyone refresh me on the backstory of brimstone elemental, xeroc, azafure and the dragon species?
brimmy is the fire elemental
she was dormant for a while until she suddenly woke up, wrecked azafure and then had to fight calamitas who abruptly gained immense brimstone power as well
azafure was i think the first city in the world? but because of the aforementioned Being Wrecked it turned into the ruins you find today
xeroc was a monk who served the dragons until ML appeared out of nowhere and nuked half the dragons, one of which being their king and dragon of primordial light (sunlight except it sounds cooler basically), Zeratros, whose soul Xeroc consumed to become the god of primordial light, leading to the slow but steady near extinction of all the auric dragons once people realized that is something you can do
there's a lot of different dragons but they generally fall into either of two categories: Auric Dragons, who each had an Auric Soul granted to them from the remains of the shattered World Soul (Yharon, Zeratros and a couple other known and/or named ones), and the Draconic Offshoots, the loser idiot piss baby nerds who were either born too late to get an auric soul (like jared) or are descendants from auric dragons (old duke and all the other types of fishrons, eidolon wyrms, wyverns, dragonfollies etc.)
Ooooo
is it because brimstone had diffeent lore than today?
which does fit with how her lore used to be before the rewrite, where she was kinda just chilling in the Crags until cal showed up and beat her ass
nowadays brimmy herself was the one commencing the ass beating and cal just defended herself
and the elementals in general are assholes so it seems like that's just a case of old music
:T
but this line does hint that there is something deeper to her attack and it wasn't just that she woke up and decided to be a bastard
the lore writers did
just recently?
boss checklist has despawn messages, and some devs decided to add more to the support
her boss track was based off her old lore
or was it added before the rewrite
after
which still holds up somewhat
its in the lore doc for a reason
yeah boss checklist doesn't provide any boss despawn messages or whatever for mods
addon talk is the channel above
shi mb
np
Are you Gordon Freeman
tf did bro pull up here for š
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Hello Lorians, Look at the color of my usernameš
Whats been loring recently
or would that count as a very bright brown...?
I think its a mix
yeah, seems like it
oh my god he's back
welcome back
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its #e0725a
I even brought two friends this time!
very nice
Chicken person
dog
perhaps
Cat
for every yharon chicken joke that is made a dragon loses their wings
They're all dead anyways
its a retroactive removal. the wings are retconned
Wouldn't he be a bee person
bee a bee
Bee person
And chicken
What would be the taste of yharon nuggets?
Dragon
rebirthful
egg
It takes a while though
Or dragon nuggets
since when was infernum real
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How are u?
Lore
hi poober
im guddddd
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pyrant
pyrant
yharim if hebecame the fire god or domething
sameeeeee
pyrant
okay but that's such a rat move doesn't count
he steals a kill
such a DoG thing to do
do you guys think yharim likes pineapple on pizza
yes hes evil
Howās that evil
its evil
cheese im banning you
I mean he thinks slavery and genocide are bad so clearly he has some moral lines maybe pineapple on pizza is past that
wouldnt say he thinks genocide is bad unless it's dragons specifically
given hes literally john commits genocide
slavery tho yeah that checks out
John Genocide is undertale
John Commits Genocide is yharim
John Wulfrum
my personal Stupid Calamity Food Headcanon is that Calamitas enjoys spam.
there's some justification to it lorewise but mostly it's because the mental image amuses me.
just watched an hour long vid on the calamity lore lmao
never knew any of ts
poor yharim yo
No gorthus so it's not accurate
there's a 77% chance everything in the video was completely wrong
what video was it
I want to see the response to this
It is a high chance
Yharim definitely is a steak person
Change my mind
he actually doesnt like ice cream
F
Why
As a half Italian, I really can only imagine the worst now
'Twas said that he can't really enjoy any cold food as it disrupts the flow of mana of the ice magic preserving his body i believe
It also just seems like either way he was never really a big fan
Makes sense
I dont mean some insane shit like full rotisserie chicken i think they meant something that would get you weird looks & would probably taste bad to most people
like, idk anchovie & pineapple
I mean jokes aside, I donāt care what people eat on pizza
I could imagine pineapple on pizza tasting good to some
I just personally donāt like pineapple
So not as bad as I thought
Thats fair
I think pineapple can work on pizza but it needs something to balance it out
Otherwise theres just like this really strong contrast & there isnt really anything bringing it together
Hai ragione fre
uhhh i dont remember
lmao
my guy is a genocidal racist
against argonians
ok wtf i hate yharim now
those too
he's racist against like a few
a few groups
like 3 atleast
i can excuse deific genocide, but being racist towards my lizard bros is where i draw the line
gods, lihzahrds and also elementals
honestly knowing him there's probably a 4th
wait right
illmerans
he probably is racist against those two
make it 4 baby fuck yeah
theres probably a 5th
fuck it, racist against bees
i can see hating the gods for what they did but whatd the lizhards do
worship god
several gods we know of were just straight up good people btw
yharim basically decided all of them were evil because a specific group of them was
its like getting bit by a dog and deciding dogs are inherently evil and going on a mission to kill every dog
also you blow up the entirety of a city killing thousands of innocent bystanders and causing several native species to the surrounding enviroment to go extinct or become endangered and do this all because there are two dogs in said city
No one knows when they can get mad with power and turn evil
reasonable crash out
also to add insult to the injury it's not even you that blow up the city with the two dogs you send your emotionally manipulated child soldier to do it
replace the city with illmeris and the dogs with gods and yeah
man Yharim is dumb
Why didn't yharim think rationally
Maybe he did get almost executed, but like, not that fatal
He was deffo a victim of Yharon dragon propaganda
he fucks off to another dimension and proceeds to trauma dump after every boss battle, what's his problem?
why didn't he just kill the gods that were evil? is he stupid?
Yharon
The true villian all along was Yharon for giving Yharim biased info
but lowkey Yharon was pissed off since people kinda killed his entire people
Why didn't yharon think rationally
Like, he could get killed and absorbed by the gods but he wasn't
now THATS a reasonable crashout
Justified crash out?
justified idk, since people who werent invlolved at all got murked
Dog thought he was good at manipulating, but he actually sucked at it
Yharon's crash out is like
Dosen't really make his actions not fucked but like
i get it yk
yeah
but like if Yharon didnt crash out so bad, he could have got Yharim to kill the gods who took the souls of the dragons who were good, and let the gods who only killed evil dragons be
like not all dragons were saints most likely
Provi killed an evil dragon
Why didn't yharim just push every God in shimmer for auric souls to come back so yharon rebirths the dragons
She became evil
yeah kill the problematic gods too then
We kill her
but if a gos is good and got their soul from an evil dragon then hell yeah
but if a good god, got his soul from a good dragon, that kinda complicates things
Is Providence stupid why didn't she fly over to the other continents and burn the cities cuz humans are easy targets
Yharim should have just not gotten thrown into lava by cultists
He probably has abs why didn't he just fight back
I'd say keep them alive
beacuse like a good god is good
Animal abuse isn't good
dragon saw good on the person and decided to give up the soul before some random evil and fucked up guy takes it
Are you justifying animal abuse
trust
Zeratros obviously realized he couldn't protect the world and gave up his soul to xeroc
How do you speak for the dragon me personally if I was a dragon I wouldn't want any randos taking my soul
My oc terrarian the time dragon
or isnt there a time dragons since thecnically time isnt real
Any character exists cuz every iteration of terrarian is canon
goku
What if I hid in the Saddam Hussein bunker
Yharim would find you
Why didnāt yharim just get magic storage and put gods essence there
Because wall of flesh funny
couldn't find diamonds
Did yharim get any space God essence he can share for us to craft gear
Yharim wouldn't want to share
He's not a monster
so you must ask noxus
He is though
He burns people at the stake just because they support any god
does he browse r/atheism frequently
Draedon gave him a reddit account
Oh no
lmao
doesn't he worship dragons?
@manic coral hey do you have time for a question?
whats up
are you sirius right now
yes
i am much more of a betelgeuse girl tbh, underrated and limited edition star
realsies
idk if he has any reason to make social media
nor would many people want to use one made by the guy who helped someone kill millions
I think i might now have some idea how other mods would be connected to calamity lore in logical way
So let's take this way. Ilmeris got incinerated?
yeah by calamitas i tink
it's just called the incineration
And i assume punch of sea beasts died
the specifics is more like the city got partially boiled
This in fact would attract punch of vultures to come feast on their dead corpses
nope
illmeris was underground
ok so for a bit more context
underwater, no?
the surface desert was always a thing
and part of the area that would become the antlion nest was a thing when illmeris was still around
Is it confirmed?
but below that was the sunken sea and illmeris in the top half of the sunken sea
Wasnāt the entire desert ilmeris
didnt the uhhh yharim or whatnot like electrocute the water ilmeris was in, hence the powers of the sea prism and stormlions?
during the incineration
only the top half of the sunken sea was boiled
no
or am i stupid
who dat
Then why did crabulon leave its home if there was still water in it? Is it stupid?
the crabs fled
mushroom biome
parasite said yummy
i think
who was the goddess of electricity, a jellyfish humanoid, and a saint in illmeris
o
crabulon was the exception
in sso there will be other crabs deeper in the sea
Desert scourge couldve find the water below its home
the specifics about the stormlions will get smoothed out in sso too
thats why i think ilmeris was the whole desert thing
yes but there just not being water isn't the only issue
it makes senseeee
it wasn't
devs have confirmed this
grrr
So i presume one of the vultures obtained power of those sea prisms accidentally
and that vulture became grand thunder bird
water pressure, salinity, and temperature all matters
also in lore the incineration happened roughly 10 years ago
which means little to no life could've adapted to the changed seas
desert scourge adapted to the desert, sunken scourge adapted to the deeper layers of the sunken sea
should point out though
sunken scourge?
it's an upcoming miniboss
oooh
it's supposedly related to the desert scourge but we are unaware of the specifics
na its just a lil dude
we have a sprite for it but its outdated now igven scoog redesign
not much bigger than the player, found in gleaming burrows
pack hunter
sunken scoog is friend
checkmate not shaped why worm friend? librarians if
Friend can have a lil terrarian, as a treat
scoog deserves it
stupid
I feed it with cheese
But my theory did have some logic atleast behind it
also another thing I've been wondering
do we know how weak the charge from sea prisms is?
we don't know the specifics but pretty weak
all it really seems to be able to do by itself is to make some weak light
didnt dreadon make the exoprisms with sea prisms and a little bit of fuckery
Also desert scourge was already a semiaquatic shallow water dweller
It didn't entirely change its ecology in a few years
a bit yeah
It's still the same exact species as it was before, it did not "evolve" to be the desert scourge
I'm not sure if fuckery is the right term
just feel like pointing that out because alot of people seem to be under the impression DS is some sort of "descendant" of a species that lived in the sunken sea when really its the exact same
whatever he does to stuff
with his thingamabobys
iirc he engraved it in a specific way to increase the flow of electricity
yeah he engraves it in a very specific way that involves microtechnology
what does iirc mean
ah
DS living in the desert is not like, say, a shark magically gaining the ability to live on land
It's more like a crocodile that lives in a river and said river dies out
specifically he carves it like a circuit board on a microscopic level and then gives it a surge of energy to kickstart it
yuh
Also was Ilmeris fresh water or salt water?
both iirc
brackish
might b wrong tho
fuck I messed up the edit
i know it had freshwater atleast
So is it like the baltic sea?
unsure if it was fully freshwater or more so brackish
excerpt from the draetalk
although something I'm wondering
could sea prisms be used as a charger for phones and what not?
how does the shellphone recharge yo
hear me out
the shellphone has an exoprism in it
idk if they are strong enough to power one outright but they seem like they could charge small electronics decently well
cinema.
Im pretty sure it was freshwater
you can get the shellphone before you even beat a single boss
much less fight the exo mechs
Or maybe that just makes more sense in my head?
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Shellphones are powered by a small crab running on a wheel
But i was asking does my theory atleast makes sense
we don't really know how the stormlions are able to use electricity
so it's possible?
That grand thunder bird was ordinary vulture that accidentally obtained power from Sea prism or fragment of Otonilou
otonilou is unlikely
she got literally broiled
the only god to defy death and still have their faculties is silva
ravager technically did but we still don't know all the specifics about them coming back
Well I feel like we can pretty safely say Ravager isjust an animated corpse, no soul left
otherwise it wouldnt have started killing everything in sight in a violent frenzy
I wonder why...
not really
silva was an elemental
and we know they can come back from death
Sarcasm
I'm pretty sure there are many gods we don't know yet so no.
Also if its mechanical god. Can it be called god if its man-made?
didnt she kick anahita & levi out of the sulphurous sea
scaramouche moment
I'm not sure if she did on purpose or if they left because of her terraforming
cuz she made the sulphurous sea like
just more habitable, no?
or sum
wouldnt like
the abyss
none of calamity happened if the dude didnt eat the fricken dragon leader who-ha's auric soul
maybe not none of it
zeratros dying and not coming back would've made something happen
im very good with names as you can see
you're fine dw
also
nameless deity
is that part of sum completely different
cuz when u spawn it u see the eye of xeroc there
oh wait yeah the monk persons name was xeroc, right?
nameless isn't canon
o
nor is wotg
ok
Nor is any addon
hence why its becoming balanced and compatible with fables, the lore is consistent there as a result
That will be in 90 fargoyears
yeah but theres plenty to look forward to, much like regular cal
we know she was found after she and brimmy already destroyed azafure and she was brought before him, probably by his scouts
btw any video before ~february 2023 is outdated and inaccurate
ok yeah thats one of the one of the things i heard
Are the martians canon?
Yes
What's their place in the lore?
And why does Draedon never mention martian technology?
all we know rn is that theyre aliens from a near-ish planet
we're getting more lore for them soonā¢ļø
Why would he?
Their technology is vastly inferior to his
Today, yes. It wasn't always inferior. It's superior to the technology he had when he was working on the mechanical bosses, and it's evidently still superior in terms of space flight capability if Draedon is struggling with mining operations on the Moon.
He never said he had problem with mining operations, but that it'd be hard to make an actual sort of railroad between Terraria and the Moon
That's a whole different thing
Also yes, they are superior to him from a few decades back, but when you consider that they are a wholly different planet
Not that impressive
That is the best an entire planet managed to come up with
yes but the insights of scientists from a literal other planet might be of use to him
He never came into contact with them
oh also they seemingly either use a lot of hovering technology or their plating can be easily used for it so that might be of some interest for him
well how do they fly?
And so do the Mech Bosses
how do planes fly





