tf
#lore-discussion
dire sluice
oh well
Name Meaning: "Tigrex" is a blend of "tiger" and "Tyrannosaurus rex" β a good hint at its wild, primal nature.
First Appearance: Debuted in Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (PSP, 2007).
Habitat: Found in cold mountainous areas like the Frozen Seaway and Tundra, but also appears in deserts and forests.
Behavior: Itβs an aggressive brute wyvern that constantly charges its prey. It relies more on brute strength and speed than elemental abilities.
Personality: Unlike some monsters with more mystical or ecological themes, Tigrex is just a raw force of nature β a beast that attacks anything that moves.
Roar: Its roar is so strong it can physically knock hunters back β often a lead-in to a brutal combo.
pliant ruin
good to see this chat is making good use of the image perms
y'all are totally gonna lose them again π
analog robin
Sorry
split mortar
Yeah can we not meme with them
dire sluice
yappin
cosmic minnow
Zesty dragon
cosmic zenith
good to see this chat is making good use of the image perms
Say a number between 1 and 4
pliant ruin
I shall pick two once again. Surely it will nto be useless again.
cosmic zenith
I'd say you were a bit unlucky again
But not useless
Bonescrappers: scrappers/inventors (extinct?)
This time I won't reroll, though
tall lily
if we slay many stronger gods like Providence and ravager (Kinda) why don't their corpses form corruptions like the crimson, corruption , and hallow from when yharim killed gods?
cosmic zenith
Those are formed by corpses of several Gods rotting over decades
It's also not out of question that, depending on where you killed them, DoG might've swooped in later to collect the essence
tall lily
It's also not out of question that, depending on where you killed them, DoG migh...
oh yeah that would also explain it. but it does make sense that only killing like 3 gods wouldnt do THAT much.
pliant ruin
```Bonescrappers: scrappers/inventors (extinct?)```
...Pre-Illmeris factions and the jobs they took when they merged into the Illmeran kingdom? π€
cosmic zenith
π€
ionic harness
Aido
whole fjord
who was dog's mommy and daddy and how he get tho sentinals
lethal mirage
i think he was just made by noxus
visual kiln
hiiiiii
paper prism
is it ever stated anywhere what Calamitas actually is? like is she just a demon or something different
gritty kraken
is it ever stated anywhere what Calamitas actually is? like is she just a demon ...
azafurian
Which are like
People from azafure/brimstone crag
manic coral
yes
paper prism
azafurian
Which are like
People from azafure/brimstone crag
okiki thank you
visual kiln
ploo
limpid saddle
who was dog's mommy and daddy and how he get tho sentinals
What star said, he was probably made by Noxus, & at the minimum, is definetly commanded by them, the Distortion bosses arent his sentinels anymore though they're just unrelated entities, Signus is an external affairs officer for the Distortion who loves to fuck people over with bad deals, Storm Weaver is a creature that managed to sever itself from the Distortion hivemind & terrorizes the skies, & Ceaseless Void is a portal to the Distortion with a bunch of protective charms on it
whole fjord
:< idk who noxus or thge distortion
limpid saddle
:< idk who noxus or thge distortion
Noxus is basically the king of the distortion, very scary, very powerful, & the distortion is a weird physics-defying fold in space that Devourer Of Gods & the gang come from
long bloom
:< idk who noxus or thge distortion
to elaborate, you can think of the distortion as a pocket dimension, and it will eventually be added as a subworld (the terraria equivalent of minecraft dimensions)
and noxus might be added as an optional superboss after yharim
split mortar
Not guaranteed because the devs can just
Get bored and not wanna anymore
long bloom
yeah i said noxus isn't guaranteed
long bloom
that would make more sense
scenic olive
Are illmeris water salty
limpid saddle
Are illmeris water salty
i think rebecca said the sunken sea is freshwater
i could be misremembering though
split mortar
It was between salt and fresh iirc
Brackish?
split mortar
So daybroken could be primordial light related?
young socket
So daybroken could be primordial light related?
if u ever feel useless just remember that vanilla gives a unique tooltip to daybroken despite the player being unable to get inflicted by it
hoary cape
π
cosmic zenith
...Pre-Illmeris factions and the jobs they took when they merged into the Illmer...
I will already tell you
This is an incorrect assumption
split mortar
@pliant ruin
wheat walrus
Name Meaning: "Tigrex" is a blend of "tiger" and "Tyrannosaurus rex" β a good hi...
tiggy
thing about the habitat, tigrex doesn't have a set habitat and it's a nomad
it only goes to cold climate areas because there's Popos in there and Tigrex is a fan π₯
spring helm
Whenever I think of the Ilmeran tribes pre-unification I think of the 12 tribes of Israel
Absolutely no relation except for them being tribes, but thatβs just where my mind goes to
long bloom
it only goes to cold climate areas because there's Popos in there and Tigrex is ...
#monster-hunter-discussion
wheat walrus
#monster-hunter-discussion
yep
mighty zenith
if gardevoir could create a black hole that works like a black hole
there wouldn't be anyone to document it
because everyone would be dead
limpid saddle
because everyone would be dead
I think the idea is that it implodes & destroys everything in the vicinity
thus some ranger watching through a pair of binoculars could probably observe the phenomena
mighty zenith
im ngl if this was something gardevoirs did often
limpid saddle
I think the idea is that it implodes & destroys everything in the vicinity
(the black hole i mean because its too small)
mighty zenith
the world would be a fucking wasteland
theres a lot of gardevoirs in the pokemon world
and a lot of trainers that own gardevoirs
that would be put in danger and therefore make the gardevoir summon a black hole that kills everything in an area
limpid saddle
im ngl if this was something gardevoirs did often
it isnt apparently according to the dex entry the gardevoir will only do it to try protect a trainer they deeply care for as a last ditch kinda thing
mighty zenith
thats just fucking stupid lol
young socket
if the black hole was big enough to destroy stuff, it would destroy the earth
if it wasnt big enough to destroy stuff it would barely be visible and would be nothing of note as something to "protect their trainer" since itd just be useless
either way it cant be an actual black hole
dusk laurel
yeah
mighty zenith
yeah the point is that its meant to be a really powerful attack according to the dex
young socket
also btw the dex HAS been wrong before anyways
mighty zenith
but also the pokedex is really weird because its not clear if its written by the professors or the trainers
or even fucking rotom
young socket
but also the pokedex is really weird because its not clear if its written by the...
either way its written by a character and shouldnt be used as a source of ultimate truth
mighty zenith
yep
dusk laurel
pokedex entries when it says a pokemon is hotter than the fucking sun
limpid saddle
pokedex entries when it says a pokemon is hotter than the fucking sun
maybe the pokèmon universe is just built different
mighty zenith
#notallhypnos
scarlet axle
I think Gardevoir making a black hole can be easily understood as the magical pop culture idea of a black hole and trying to argue about the physics about it is reading way into something thats not that complicated
mighty zenith
maybe the pokèmon universe is just built different
or maybe the dex is just bullshit for the sake of sounding cool
y'know
like item tooltips!
limpid saddle
or maybe the dex is just bullshit for the sake of sounding cool
why cant it be both
dusk laurel
no
mighty zenith
probably is
limpid saddle
I mean for fucks sake Ash alone has survived being grilled by his charizard dozens of times
Theres clearly SOMETHING weird about pokemon universe humans
mighty zenith
something something plot armor
young socket
dear god using gags as powerscaling
π π π π π« π« π« π« π« π« π«
this is justthat one dragon ball joke of that one character "exploding the moon"
dusk laurel
ash doesnt even age iirc
mighty zenith
idk i dont do powerscaling i just hate people that shit on a series because of arbitrary comparisons of strength between fiction
limpid saddle
dear god using gags as powerscaling
i aint trying to powerscale im just saying pokemon universe humans are weird & durable as hell π
young socket
ash doesnt even age iirc
wdym he totally travels across like 8 regions in one year
limpid saddle
wdym he totally travels across like 8 regions in one year
isnt that what basically all elderly middle upper class couples do
dusk laurel
i aint trying to powerscale im just saying pokemon universe humans are weird & d...
something something childrens show
cant have people dying π₯
limpid saddle
cant even consider the hypothetical for comedic purposes alright i see you lore chat π₯
mighty zenith
pooperscaling
dusk laurel
agreeable
young socket
no
limpid saddle
hoary cape
You should
split mortar
dusk laurel
epic embed fail
hoary berry
split mortar
<:EboniaWave:1348556880372301907>
The demon has escaped
split mortar
Whyd you let a child out their house unmonitored
hoary cape
Funny
manic coral
So daybroken could be primordial light related?
to be fair, it IS literally called "daybroken"
split mortar
Tbf it is from vanilla
manic coral
ok so is a lot of stuff from cal lore
plus, it's not an explicit reference. it's not dev or donor content.
reef wigeon
I think Pucci with MiH reaches universal by restarting the universe with gravity on a universal scale.
I mean on a realistic scale, if they would be plausible in real life LMAO
Completely ignoring the exo prisms
ionic harness
Aido
wheat walrus
the world would be a fucking wasteland
wrong the world wouldn't
it literally
wouldn't
π
js realized it sounds like I'm objecting and not the joke I was going for π
lunar thorn
Is magic in lore nerfed on BloodMoons b/c the mana stars in the sky "shrink away?"
cloud ibex
js realized it sounds like I'm objecting and not the joke I was going for π
therefore it would not think
wheat walrus
therefore it would not think
k mod
cloud ibex
what
wheat walrus
the best to you,
look at those 15 pixels carefully
lunar thorn
Are those 15 pixels chicken-jocky?
lunar thorn
I was gonna say Steve but idk
wheat walrus
erm this is a terraria server
lunar thorn
wheat walrus
<:FallWithinMyCalculations:1028718296515747960>
so
what's the core topic of this channel
lunar thorn
Just sent a gif of the topic
lunar thorn
I asked a lore question but no one answered
lunar thorn
The guide
wheat walrus
no
mighty zenith
mom why is the white man pointing at me
split mortar
to be fair, it IS literally called "daybroken"
So being in sunlight just smited you with the power of a post cultist weapon endlessly back in dragon age got it
wheat walrus
it's the terrarian
wheat walrus
mom why is the white man pointing at me
he's telling you that the terrarian's lore is up to you, son
split mortar
Omni i cant see what you are sending
wheat walrus
Omni i cant see what you are sending
15 pixels of the white guy with a blue shirt from the terrarian lore meme
mighty zenith
lmao
wheat walrus
I dont even see that
of course the resolution is 5x3
split mortar
Its just nothingness
wheat walrus
here's the thing when zoomed to 800% on pc
split mortar
Lmao
wheat walrus
best 158 bytes to have ever been used
mighty zenith
pattern recognition
split mortar
This strikes fear into all lorers who were alive back then
dusk laurel
terror
lethal mirage
im too neww
split mortar
It was like half the reason image perms got nuked for a while iirc
split mortar
what did yall do
I was silly back then :3
lethal mirage
toooo silly
split mortar
visual kiln
This strikes fear into all lorers who were alive back then
i was there on its creation
split mortar
Were you there for the xeroc tax though
lethal mirage
ok grandma
visual kiln
grrrr
visual kiln
im too neww
be less new
lethal mirage
nuh uh
dusk laurel
Were you there for the xeroc tax though
i will boil you
split mortar
:3
wheat walrus
brainrot activator
cloud ibex
lore discussion
wheat walrus
calamitas is the evil terrarian
cloud ibex
hold up maybe he's cooking
mighty zenith
omni is the evil calamitas
split mortar
split mortar
omni is the evil calamitas
Wrong
mighty zenith
evilgun
visual kiln
@lethal mirage i will add u to the secret society someday my apprentice
dusk laurel
π
lethal mirage
π§ββοΈ
visual kiln
brainrot activator
Straight to hell
wheat walrus
heh
lethal mirage
brainrot activator
what is this awful
dusk laurel
you'll learn one day
wheat walrus
<@955316007273127946> i will add u to the secret society someday my apprentice
you're too late aza
wheat walrus
π§ββοΈ
check dms for secret society
lethal mirage
what..
cloud ibex
lore discussion for real this time
pulsar ocean
we live in a society
mighty zenith
a lore society
pearl folio
I gotta agree he has a shrimp too
brazen coral
ποΈ ποΈ
foggy stream
foggy stream
ποΈ ποΈ
am i getting banned
cloud ibex
No but it you say anything like that again Iβm breaking your kneecaps
Donβt be weird
foggy stream
ok
cloud ibex
dusk laurel
what
split mortar
If yharim not fren why fren shaped
dusk laurel
thats because you have ulcerative colitis
raw totem
is the lore doc still accurate or do i have to look somewhere else for something better
raw totem
yeah but i didn't know if it's outdated or not the message is from 2023 so i think osme stuff has changed since then
but idk
wheat walrus
ahh
cloud ibex
when the original message was posted doesn't really matter, when the doc was last updated is what's important
wheat walrus
does say it's for version 2.0.2 though
yes cause embeds don't update
if you click the thing it says 2.0.4
:p
wheat walrus
yes pisscord
granted
most other stuff doesn't have updating embeds usually that I remember
dusk laurel
it says 2.0.2 on the first paragraph too
cloud ibex
i suppose that's true
dusk laurel
for some reason
wheat walrus
it says 2.0.2 on the first paragraph too
that's prolly a slip-up
nonetheless, it has all the ingame lore all the way up to bountiful harvest update
dusk laurel
yerp
wheat walrus
which I'm pretty sure is the last update of any form that added anything lore to the game
so
yea
it's up to date
foggy stream
because it is
and universe is in a multiverse so there are other universes next to that universe and in that universe this happens
wheat walrus
dont jinx our img perms
foggy stream
(i had a stroke typing this)
foggy stream
dont jinx our img perms
hehe
split mortar
dont jinx our img perms
If its a single person being cringe they will just get warned
wheat walrus
If its a single person being cringe they will just get warned
ioncar π₯
cloud ibex
i think melon is right but also i agree don't
foggy stream
i think melon is right but also i agree don't
who is melon
cloud ibex
gun
pliant ruin
i should send some of you to hell
cloud ibex
i'll allow it
split mortar
who is melon
:3
split mortar
to be fair, it IS literally called "daybroken"
So i may be going on this for a bit much but
If the solar fragments do have some level of PL, wtf do the other fragments do to rival that shit
visual kiln
So i may be going on this for a bit much but
If the solar fragments do have som...
primordial stardust
primordial nebula
primordial vortex
cloud ibex
Evolved Dark
pliant ruin
tjose who know...
spare pier
I literally told you that yesterday that's so funny
split mortar
I literally told you that yesterday that's so funny
dusk laurel
dementia gun
split mortar
Ok so primordial light may just be
1 of four of busted fuckery???
spare pier
Moon Lord and the Pillars are soooo funny
late veldt
Primordial Light
Primordial Fright
Primordial Might
Primordial Sight
dusk laurel
π₯
split mortar
split mortar
Moon Lord and the Pillars are soooo funny
Hmmmmmm
split mortar
Ima shut up on what i think
rain thorn
Primordial Blight
pliant ruin
theorize and speculate and such
dusk laurel
what
split mortar
Nuh
dusk laurel
good
late veldt
bad
split mortar
Whaur
dusk laurel
spreader of evil
spare pier
Me being a dumbass has caught up I see
late veldt
u p
pulsar ocean
is le solar pillar connected to primordial light
split mortar
is le solar pillar connected to primordial light
Solar likely is so almost def
prime mauve
Primordial Light
Primordial Fright
Primordial Might
Primordial Sight
Primordial Blight
(meld)
wait
late veldt
Yeah
split mortar
Thats
Yeah exo bix
late veldt
turn the game into touhou
prime mauve
Primordial Night
wheat walrus
primordial purple
π€π£
deft vessel
Omnious
mighty zenith
those who t
late veldt
those who those
gentle ferry
Do events in calamity canonically happen after a bosses death or is that purely a gameplay thing
Like does polterghast defeat allow a stronger acid rain
split mortar
A different thing will activate the acid rain t3 iirc
But aquatic scoog intimidates tier 2 away
robust osprey
Do events in calamity canonically happen after a bosses death or is that purely ...
things like plague on golem's death is gameplay iirc
or just a really curious coincidence
split mortar
Yeah post golem infection is being changed
limpid saddle
Yeah it's gonna generate on world creation but only 'activate' in late hardmode right?
split mortar
I dint think we know
gaunt sluice
We need a bigger world size man
limpid saddle
We need a bigger world size man
what you want calamity to add extra large?
split mortar
I doubt ancient manipulator is from terraria
limpid saddle
I doubt ancient manipulator is from terraria
what
split mortar
what
It can manipulate primordial light and 3-4 possible equal things to that
While barely anything on the planet can fucking interact with PL
limpid saddle
Im afraid I dont understand why you said that with no preamble
split mortar
Preamble?
limpid saddle
Feels like walking in on a conversation mid-way except theres only one person
split mortar
Its 11pm and i have the social skills of a chair
limpid saddle
Its 11pm and i have the social skills of a chair
you're lax, respectable & yet somewhat informal in appropriate contexts?
split mortar
Solar fragments are pl related cause daytime empress inflicts daybroken which is only from the daybreak weapon which is solar flare
split mortar
Melon I think you're overestimating Primordial Light a bit too much
Pluh
cloud ibex
tbf i toss out some idle thoughts in here sometimes
spare pier
Like, I know it's THE THING FROM THE SUN
And also the thing used by The Strongest Character In The Universe
But Primordial Light isn't a fucking Infinity Stone
languid badge
the go go gadget cancer ray is unbeatable trust
limpid saddle
Rebecca does have a point
spare pier
Like, of course it's going to be an inherently powerful resource to draw from
limpid saddle
It seems being able to wield it in any respects isnt necessarily all about 'you must be overwhemlingly powerful & have tons of crazy shit going on'
spare pier
But using it isn't going to make you immediately capable of curbstomping 99% of the world
languid badge
using the light from the sun does not make you the sun
spare pier
Exactly
Of course, that isn't to say Primordial Light isn't at a baseline an incredibly powerful thing, because it is
But it's not the end-all of power for the Mod
split mortar
It seems being able to wield it in any respects isnt necessarily all about 'you ...
I never meant that interacting with pl means you are powerful
Just
The ability to interact with it is so rare on the planet and that ancient manipulator looks very alien and is also proficient in alien magics
I just dont think its from the planet, not that its like fucking busted strong
split mortar
But using it isn't going to make you immediately capable of curbstomping 99% of ...
I was never on about power
pliant ruin
i like how everyone jumped to the conclusion that the other pillars must be equally as powerful as pl
dusk laurel
nose
split mortar
Cheese shut up and let us have our fun you meanie
pliant ruin
i didn't imply anything
i just said i think it's funny how that was the immediate conclsuon everyone had
split mortar
Why is it funny
pliant ruin
because literally everybody immediately agreed on it
like actually everyone
i mean it's reasonable enough but it's funny that the lore chat shares 1 braincell at times
i'd rather it share 1 braincell at lore reveals like this than have none like usually does thohgh
π
sinful adder
wait wait wait hold on
primodial light = solar pillar = zeratros
Primordial vortex = vortex pillar = vertrasyl
dusk laurel
i feel like vortex is more like gravity
sinful adder
it is the one with lightning
dusk laurel
also true
sinful adder
vertrasyl is the dragon of storms
nebula = magic = mana and astral but not exactly space = ???
stardust = summon = ???
jaunty marsh
nebula = magic = mana and astral but not exactly space = ???
stardust = summon =...
Nebula= devourer of gods?
Thereβs a theory that heβs actually a dragon
sinful adder
no, not fitting, DoG is not a dragon
that's a stupid theory
he doesn't have an auric soul
mighty zenith
it doesnt make sense because draedon studied him and didnt come to that conclusion
it also wouldnt make sense if he originates from the distortion
sinful adder
yeah
anyways
storms resulted in an infinite power source via sea prisms, these gave rise to exo prisms which make the exo mechs make storms in the background, which resemble the vortex ones
pliant ruin
storms resulted in an infinite power source via sea prisms, these gave rise to e...
damn
that's actually kinda interesting
mighty zenith
nebula = magic = mana and astral but not exactly space = ???
stardust = summon =...
stardust pillar enemies split and come back after being being weakened
yharon pillar real...
light linden
@spare pierquestion
split mortar
stardust enemies *split*?
Some do
pliant ruin
clearly this is the pillar of gluttony ...............
split mortar
Stardust cells
sinful adder
they are cells
light linden
we ever gonna get an explanation for as to how astral ore is refined?
pliant ruin
is this going to be the new infected armor plating
dusk laurel
place your bets
mighty zenith
hey cheese how do lihzahrd power cells work
light linden
aw
mighty zenith
tell me right now or i will eat
chees
pliant ruin
ok so the lihzahrds get a rock right
they then use their evil lihzahrd shrink ray to shrink a entire nuclear factory
and they put the nuclear factory inside of the rock
that is where the power of the power cells come from
mighty zenith
and steal the moon
dusk laurel
ore
mighty zenith
πͺ¨
pliant ruin
hi lore devs can i get a detailed explanation of the chemical components of infernal suevite. pelase
dusk laurel
lore devs can you please elaborate why the aether looks like that
i need to know why it generates like that
mighty zenith
hi chatgpt can you give me detailed instructions how NOT to use brimstone magic
pliant ruin
holy shit you gave me an idea
jovial stream
But it's not the end-all of power for the Mod
Is there something more powerful?
spare pier
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
There are definitely things just as powerful
Besides, the truth is that the only thing that matters is the baseline at which the power of something starts
EoL is nowhere near as powerful as many Bosses, meanwhile Xeroc is Xeroc
What power you are using doesn't matter, it's who's using it
lunar thorn
Vanillin's true form when fighting Xeroc in lore
dusk laurel
what...
round lodge
Where can I read ALL the calamity lore start to finish
lunar thorn
One of these emaculate lore-smiths has a big lore document
round lodge
Alright thanks Iβll look for it
lunar thorn
ππ₯
cloud ibex
(pins
pliant ruin
Is EoL something like a elemental of the Hallow?
She isn't a elemental no
there's only 5 elementals and they correspond to the 4 main elements + nature
brimmy (fire), anahita (water), sandy (earth), cloudy (air) and silva (nature)
brimmy will b getting a real name like anahita and silva in the future
dusk laurel
reb said that wasnt going to happen
dusk laurel
oh wait really
spare pier
I mean, who knows, if the time comes and she gets one, that's that
I don't want to make it seem like I alone can give the veredict that Brimmy will never have a name
lunar thorn
Will giving Brimmy a name take away the mystery?
cloud ibex
i agree with you
for me it's not about the mystery, it's more that giving her a name humanizes her
spare pier
Yeah
cloud ibex
if she's supposed to be Fucked Up Evil Monstrous Being she feels more like one if she's not even given a proper name, just a title or a descriptor
lunar thorn
Does Brimmy have a public new sprite that is planned?
lunar thorn
What does crunched mean?
lunar thorn
Oh, very nice. I was wanting to ask if she'll have clothes this time. Looks like she will. The cream-tan part looks like a wedding dress
And a crown?
prime mauve
My opinion is that a rename would be nice, to make it more distinct from the non boss elementals, but still not a humanizing name
cloud ibex
yea he destroyed her with facts and logic and the power of incredible violence
pliant ruin
yharim beat her to death except not because she's immortal
cosmic zenith
Reject the False Idol! The envoy rests in stone for her treachery! Hail the Brimstone Heart, the true flame!
The next spoilers I post will be so interesting....
Can't wait for the Hadean Wilds saga
lunar thorn
This is already pretty cool
cosmic zenith
Thanks!
cosmic zenith
Yes
late veldt
Reject the False Idol! The envoy rests in stone for her treachery! Hail the Brim...
The wither
spare pier
#spoilers message you get Malachite's tooltip
long sand
who wins in a 1v1 yharim or gojo
cunning flare
I looked on the pins, and nothing seemed to mention it, not even the official lore document, so I'll tentatively ask here despite it being a pretty basic question:
What's wulfram, and why is such advanced technology made out of such a terrible metal?
scenic olive
Wulfrum
is an alloy
its not Terrible
And certainly not really advanced
Its easy to produce and build robots with wulfrum
sinful adder
I looked on the pins, and nothing seemed to mention it, not even the official lo...
nya kind of said this already but wulfrum is an alloy that is really easy to work with, kind of like tin or copper or lead in the real world. I assume it has some useful properties like softness that allows it to make intricate things easily, but those same properties make it easy to break. It isn't advanced, it just looks cool.
cunning flare
And certainly not really advanced
It's advanced compared to the other things obtainable at that stage of the game
sinful adder
It's advanced compared to the other things obtainable at that stage of the game
it appears advanced but lore wise, being able to make things like this is common knowledge. It seems advanced because making such things out of other stronger materials is hard to do. Physics is also different in this world, and magic exists
cunning flare
it appears advanced but lore wise, being able to make things like this is common...
The basic principles behind mdoern technologies are common knowledge today, that doesn't make them not advanced. Yes, I accept the whole "they appear advanced but they're actually far less advanced than they look" thing, but it is very, very difficult for a sci fi technology to be less advanced than basic, nonmagical swords and plate armor, even if it's weaker.
cunning flare
Eh, something can be both sci fi and fantasy simultaneously, that's what science fantasy is
cunning flare
I didn't say it was strong, just advanced
cunning flare
Well, advanced for early game terrarians. I imagine by the time you reach hardmode the kind of technology you have access to is probably far more advanced than wulfram.
sinful adder
yes, but only you have that. The terrarian surpases what most others can do pretty quickly. The start out as a more or less average person for that world
cunning flare
That is true I suppose
But talk of what an average terrarian would have access to does get complicated by the fact that you never actually encounter anyone who is neither a boss nor part of your town. At least in vanilla, it's probably different in calamity.
sinful adder
But talk of what an average terrarian would have access to does get complicated ...
in vanilla, its weird. But in calamity...
that's because we're in the literal worst place in the world. Everyone is dead. The only worst place to be is the continent that is entirely volcanoes. Cities and kingdoms have scraped by the devestation of the crusade on other continents, but this one has completely fallen to ruin, save for a few adventurers and hermits who managed to stay out of the way
robust osprey
heartlands (the continent we play in) is literally infested by dead gods shit
I doubt evils exist outside heartlands
sinful adder
The crusade was worldwide, which means that any gods that died outside the continent spread their essence around too
There is apparently also a place called the "crystal city", and it is the same kind of crystals we find in the hallow. This presumably is the result of a powerful god that died a long time ago.
sinful adder
A lore writer said these things at some point months ago
I can't remember when or who exactly
long bloom
a lore writer said recently that it was not worldwide
sinful adder
What
When
I could have sworn it spanned the entire world according to someone, or at least pretty close to it
hoary berry
sinful adder
That means exactly what I said it did
Although the entire point of a hive mind is that it doesn't have a brain. It is an emergent phenomenon that exists despite no single physical object containing it
Hey lore writers your lore is wrong
cunning flare
Although the entire point of a hive mind is that it doesn't have a brain. It is ...
That depends on the hivemind. Many fictions write hiveminds in different ways compared to each other, and some of those hiveminds do indeed have a central brain
The zerg from Starcraft, the flood from Halo, and hiveminds in general from Stellaris all have central brains
I would assume that the reason hiveminds are often written this way in fiction is because central brains have the potential to be actual interesting characters, something that would be very very difficult to accomplish with a decentralized hivemind
This goes doubly so with games like terraria where central brains can act as bossfights
Of course, while interesting characters in a decentralized hivemind would be difficult, it isn't necessarily impossible. Take the tyranids from 40k for example. The hivemind there, to my understanding, is a warp god that emerges as a natural result of the psychic activity of every tyranid. I don't know enough about 40k lore to confirm this, but whether or not it is like this isn't the point, because the simple fact that I could even propose the idea at all proves that it is possible to write an interesting character in a decentralized hivemind.
sinful adder
That depends on the hivemind. Many fictions write hiveminds in different ways co...
These are false portrayals of what a hive mind is
cunning flare
That being said, this does not mean that centralized hiveminds are bad writing. Far from it; a central brain could fit more closely with what the writer is going for
cunning flare
These are false portrayals of what a hive mind is
All fiction is a false portrayal of reality, that's what fiction is.
sinful adder
A hive mind is by definition decentralized. That is what makes it a hive mind
What
No, then it's just a mind
Also, portraying a hive mind correctly is very easy. It's called an ant colony or bee hive. That's where the idea comes from. There is no one giving the orders. The ant queen is not actually in charge of anything
cunning flare
Keep in mind that hiveminds don't exist in real life (no, ants and bees don't count; even with the swarm being more intelligent than individual components, the swarm as a whole is still not intelligent enough to achieve consciousness), so it is impossible to say what a real life hivemind would be like. In fact, there very likely isn't a one singular answer; it could be the case that both centralized hiveminds and decentralized hiveminds are possible simultaneously.
sinful adder
What
Where did your idea that a hive mind has to be fully intelligent like a person come from?
I do not believe that you actually know the meanings of the words you speak, or that you have assigned them meanings that don't match what other people believe them to mean
cunning flare
Also, portraying a hive mind correctly is very easy. It's called an ant colony o...
Do remember that we are talking about magical creatures in a magical world that has physics different from our universe. The very concept of "portraying something correctly" inherently does not apply.
sinful adder
This is completely irrelevant and also false
cunning flare
Well, I've noticed that I'm starting to get into an argument that will go nowhere. In the interest of working on my problem of being too argumentative, I will end the argument here. Have a nice day.
sinful adder
Imagine saying "yeah, this thing that looks and and feels and tastes like an apple is an orange, I know it doesn't look like it but oranges aren't real so it's ok, it's fictional anyways"
Not talking to that bozo anymore:
There are two options for hive mind to make sense.
1: it is a bunch of tiny independent creatures that are just forming the shape of a larger creature
2: the player is bad at naming things and it is the exact opposite of a hive mind.
The lore entry is also wrong regardless of which of these are true
long bloom
no it's still a hive mind
sinful adder
By definition it is not a hive mind
long bloom
look at bottom
the example is one with a central brain
there's nothing in the definition that says it can't have a central brain
sinful adder
The bottom definition is entirely contradictory to the original definition of hive mind
Google can be wrong. It often is
long bloom
then what is the original definition, o exalted one?
outer cargo
The bottom definition is entirely contradictory to the original definition of hi...
Definitions also change, the original definition of a word is pointless
long bloom
^
spare pier
A hive mind can have a central brain, yes, that's a widely used definition of the term in fiction
sinful adder
It can, sure, I suppose you can be correct that this is what the definition is now, but I feel it is also important to know that if this really is the new definition of the word, then all meaning it once had has been lost. All minds are hive minds now. Your brain controls the actions of the cells in your body, meaning that your cells are part of a hive mind
Is a hive mind really just a mind?
spare pier
Words lose meaning every day, that's how language works
sinful adder
Rebecca, even if they're right, can you understand how this new definition may be completely useless now?
spare pier
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
long bloom
no because it's not
spare pier
If you want to be pedantic and refer to your entire body as a hive mind, sure
sinful adder
Why even call it that then? There is no longer any distinction between a normal mind controlling a group of things, and a mind that emerges from a collection of smaller autonomous entities without any central control. There is not even any distinct word for the latter concept anymore.
long bloom
your "original definition" seems very narrow minded
no pun intended
sinful adder
I don't mind the meaning of words changing, but I do mind losing the ability to talk about a concept with any rigor to this process. I know I'm fighting a losing battle
Surely it was the original purpose of the word, the mind of a hive, no?
long bloom
if you can prove it, sure
sinful adder
Hives of insects don't have any single object containing their minds, instead a sort of mind emerges from the collective of all those insects
spare pier
A hive mind is a form of life where many brains are connected into one neural network
outer cargo
Surely it was the original purpose of the word, the mind of a hive, no?
The brain is the mind of the hive that is the cells of an organism
spare pier
π
long bloom
Hives of insects don't have any single object containing their minds, instead a ...
there's always a queen bee, ant, termite etc
that the rest serve
spare pier
A hive mind is a form of life where many brains are connected into one neural ne...
You may extend this to how insect hives work, as they act in near perfect unison
But they aren't a hive mind, they simply act in a way that would give such an impression
cunning flare
that the rest serve
This isn't actually true. Insect queens don't rule the hive, their only purpose is to reproduce. Bees have even been known to kill queens that get sick.
spare pier
Bees kill their Queen a lot
long bloom
you get my point
sinful adder
A hive mind is a form of life where many brains are connected into one neural ne...
This is true, and distinct from the meaning given by pyro
long bloom
you get my point
it's not unreasonable to take that concept and extend it to fiction
spare pier
Ultimately a hive mind is defined not by how the neural connection works, but that there is one to begin with
sinful adder
there's always a queen bee, ant, termite etc
Yeah no this is completely incorrect actually. The queen is no more special than the others in terms of command or intelligence, it serves a specific function (reproduction) that happens to be unique for the hive
long bloom
see previous comment
sinful adder
you get my point
No actually, I think you don't get your own point. The original real world example of a hive mind is one where the apparent ruler actually has zero control or awareness, and the only kind of intelligence that exists is an emergent property
long bloom
and you know this how?
sinful adder
it's not unreasonable to take that concept and extend it to fiction
It is unreasonable because the original was based on a misunderstanding
sinful adder
I have learned biology.
cunning flare
I don't mind the meaning of words changing, but I do mind losing the ability to ...
Jumping in because I feel this is separate from the argument that I left, what distinguishes a centralized hivemind from a regular mind, at least in my eyes, is whether the drones are their own separate organisms. A skin cell on your hand is not an organism because it cannot function on its own without the rest of your body, nor does it have any way to survive on its own. A zergling within the zerg swarm, however, is, because even though it gets significantly dumber without centralized control, it is still a complete organism with its own mind and its own capability, however poor it may be, to survive on its own. This is why the zerg are a hivemind and you are not.
This is why I believe that extending the definition of a hivemind to include centralized hiveminds does not destroy the ability to effectively talk about hiveminds.
long bloom
yes
sinful adder
Jumping in because I feel this is separate from the argument that I left, what d...
Your cells can actually survive without you sometimes, but the lines here are very ambiguous. An ant cannot survive for very long without it's colony, but it acts autonomously. I do agree that the zerg example makes sense but it should be considered more like an in between state where individual members act like parts of a hive mind but there is a specific entity that has a larger portion of control.
cunning flare
Hi
stoic lark
Bye berecca
sinful adder
The concept of a hive mind though is generally meant to refer to a situation where many unintelligent entities can act together as a more intelligent whole, and where there can be some level of central control but the individual units should contain some degree of autonomy
stoic lark
Anyway uh be polite while you debate tiny pointless details of semantics thanks guys
sinful adder
Understood
Not sure if I posted this already
Anyways, like I said earlier, you may be correct that the definition of hive mind has changed into what you said it is, but I think that would be a very unfortunate development in language that ends up entirely destroying the meaning that the word originally had
cunning flare
Not necessarily. If you want to talk about decentralized hiveminds, you can just say "decentralized hiveminds". We were able to do so in this conversation just fine.
sinful adder
Not necessarily. If you want to talk about decentralized hiveminds, you can just...
You could, but then you might as well say "decentralized minds", because the meaning is gone
outer cargo
The original meaning is not destroyed, it's just that the word has adopted another meaning on top of it
Hive mind refers to both of those
Many words have picked up new definitions over time while still retaining their original definition
sinful adder
See my issue with that is the new definition is contradictory to the original one, so "hive mind" is actually no different than "mind"
You don't know which one you mean anymore
long bloom
it's not contradictory though
sinful adder
A mind cannot be both centralized and decentralized
long bloom
yes it can
sinful adder
These are opposite, incompatible things
How?
It can be somewhere in between, but it can't be solely both
long bloom
idk i'm just saying shit bc i'm bored
sinful adder
Oh ok (angry)
split mortar
a lore writer said recently that it was not worldwide
?????????
long bloom
couldn't find the screenshot
outer cargo
You don't know which one you mean anymore
Well yes, but that's why there's such a thing as context, words don't exist in isolation
split mortar
long bloom
do we know what the dungeon cult is about
i have an idea that might work but idk enough about them
split mortar
do we know what the dungeon cult is about
They worship the dragons, use CV as a battery for spells and upkeep the seal on moonlord
Oh and they were fine with yharim using their place as a super fucked up prison
long bloom
i was thinking it would be cool if they summoned the pillars from the distortion
bc what else are they
split mortar
They are the dragon cult
long bloom
i meant the pillars
split mortar
They helped moonlord
long bloom
what else are the pillars if not from the distortion
i thought the pillars were from cultist
split mortar
i thought the pillars were from cultist
Nop
Helped ml fight the dragons according to a dev statement
long bloom
i remember the lore being that cultist summoned the pillars as a last stand to keep ml sealed
long bloom
no it was true at some point
split mortar
Not new lore
long bloom
ig not
split mortar
Helped ml fight the dragons according to a dev statement
We dunno whats with new lore pillars really beyond this
And in vanilla the pillars are part of the seal on moonlord
iirc
dusk laurel
a lore writer said recently that it was not worldwide
yes it was
me when i spread misinformation π
deft vessel
^
pulsar ocean
did he
split mortar
Yes
dusk laurel
his goal was to kill all if the gods after all
itd be weird if he just rested on his laurels on one continent
atomic blaze
Hey something that I wanted to ask and see if anyone has answers for it is that it finally clicked to me why Draedons theme/motif (specifically the abandoned labs) sounded so familiar and it was that his motif correct me if I'm wrong is the guitar solo for Feral Amalgamation (1:42) and that makes me wonder is there really any explanation for this in the lore? Why do seemingly two entirely separate beings from completely different backgrounds share the same motif? You think there could be some form of connection between them idk this is probably a very crack pot take but considering how important the music is to the mod it kinda made me think
split mortar
The only connection is that draedon worked for yharim and yharim caused the polterghast incident afaik
topaz shard
how many bosses could get added in theory?
dusk laurel
3
split mortar
how many bosses *could* get added in theory?
Yharim (final boss)
Noxus (post game super boss)
Xeroc (post game super boss)
Only yharim is guaranteed to happen
topaz shard
zamn π
i feel like there should be more bosses between dog, yharon and the two endgame ones
split mortar
Boss bloat is not good
topaz shard
but it is fun
split mortar
Not for many
topaz shard
we have a crab
split mortar
They wanna add more non boss content
untold oracle
That would be great!!
split mortar
They wanna add more non boss content
Distortion update will focus on that
topaz shard
ooh maybe invasions and events near endgame
split mortar
For post ml
untold oracle
Terraria mfs when they only see bosses and ignore everything else
topaz shard
something to do other than prepare after dog, then yharon, then the next and so on
untold oracle
Thereβs distortion
split mortar
Yeah dog will unlock more for the distortion
untold oracle
So exploration will be a thing
split mortar
^
topaz shard
the yharims army invasion isnt gonna happen cuz they were all wiped out right?
split mortar
I hear an event of sorts may have something like that
They disbanded not wiped out
Yharim wants you to get stronger
untold oracle
"Itβs for character development"
split mortar
@cheese
topaz shard
maybe like, suits of auric armour that act as a miniboss/invasion where you fight a small group of souped up enemies at a time per wave?
split mortar
They would die in auric
topaz shard
i would die in auric
topaz shard
deep lore
untold oracle
Not a lot of people are attuned to dragons nowadays
split mortar
Considering the auric dragons are dead
untold oracle
And the terrarian pretty much invented mock auric
Since
Not a lot of people had access to Yharon soul fragments before
topaz shard
is the auric ore generated post yharon its own poo
split mortar
??
untold oracle
Idr what its deal was
dusk laurel
is the auric ore generated post yharon its own poo
what...
topaz shard
you heard me
untold oracle
People have a bunch of wacky headcanons for how auric appears
split mortar
Idr what its deal was
It says draconic energies or something when it generates
topaz shard
so like, it spreads out and turns rock to fancy electric gold?
split mortar
It says draconic energies or something when it generates
I think a auric dragons death releases their current bodies power onto the surrounding area and it makes auric ore
Complete headcanon tho
topaz shard
there should def be a near endgame wave type event tho
dusk laurel
what would it be tho
split mortar
The acid rain t3 is like the only thing i can see being like that and afaik thats pre dog even after rework
untold oracle
what would it be tho
Yhormβs Revenge
dusk laurel
i think youre on to something
also yeah the yharmy is probably gonna be a real event, but it wont be a wave type of event
untold oracle
Yhorm uses its boundless powers to summon evil Yhorm apparitions (Yharim sprites with worm AI)
dusk laurel
youll see when the undead gauntlet gets added
split mortar
Gonna be like fight 5 minibosses type deal iirc
untold oracle
What if there was purple providence
dusk laurel
providence but she drank too much cosmilite
untold oracle
Yeeea
split mortar
Providence but i snuck purple food dye on the soul of flames
untold oracle
Mark shenanigans
topaz shard
what would it be tho
the vengeful souls from his 'stalwart' troops which are the same ones used to power the mechs?
dusk laurel
thats not very interesting imo
we already have an entire area dedicated to vengeful souls
split mortar
and multiple bosses
dusk laurel
and a boss too
topaz shard
yeah but, ghost invasion
split mortar
and a boss too
Plantera and polter
split mortar
yeah but, ghost invasion
Just go to the dungeon for that
topaz shard
where are the skeleton jailors
split mortar
They are some of the enemies we fight in the dungeon
Some are prisoners some are the jailors and wardens
split mortar
We will prob learn which ones are jailors and ones prisoners once the sso update comes out via the vanilla bestiary rewrite
topaz shard
my ass is dead
untold oracle
We will prob learn which ones are jailors and ones prisoners once the sso update...
Weβll have every calamity and vanilla weapon reworked before that
untold oracle
Wasnβt the original idea for it to be out in january or smth..
split mortar
I think so
dusk laurel
last year
topaz shard
Waiter waiter more weapon reworks
"ok so, we need to rework the quagmire"
dusk laurel
Did they make part 1 like twice as big as they intended toβ¦
pt 1 and 2 used to be one thing
split mortar
Yeah ik
Im saying is part 1 like twice as big as the original plan back when they started
topaz shard
wait is part one out yet
dusk laurel
no
split mortar
No
split mortar
If it was we would have all lore ever
dusk laurel
part 1 is already going to be the largest calamity update in history
topaz shard
607 - Reworked The Underworld's generation. - Done β
split mortar
They should fuse part 1 and part 2
topaz shard
minecraft cave and cliffs
dusk laurel
not really
untold oracle
I think itβs because people are afraid to actually touch the world generation development (probably hell so not blaming) so they just keep reworking items because itβs relatively simple to do and probably the area where most of them are skilled in
Although this has been discussed many times before so
topaz shard
The following recipes were removed:
Adhesive Bandage, Armor Polish, Band of Regeneration, Bezoar, Black Lens, Bug Net, Celestial Magnet, Desert Minecart, Feral Claws, Flare Gun, Frozen Turtle Shell, Guide Voodoo Doll, Ice Boomerang, Ice Machine, Lavaproof Fishing Hook, Leaf Wand, Lihzahrd Power Cell, Living Loom, Living Mahogany Wand, Living Wood Wand, Magic Quiver, Metal Detector, Rich Mahogany Leaf Wand, Shuriken, Sky Mill, Staff of Regrowth, Temple Key, Throwing Knife, and Vitamins. - Done β
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this update should be delayed for until fabsoluary
dusk laurel
what
topaz shard
it is more lore accurate for me to be able to craft a bandage
split mortar
Bandage prob has magic fuckery going on
topaz shard
it just makes you not bleed
rain thorn
Mind you a lot of these recipes weren't super necessary after 1.4.4 made them easier to get with shimmer
At least for some of them
split mortar
And calamity adds them to many drop pools of enemies
topaz shard
i dont need empress of light bathwater, ill just farm for them, this is what they are doing to me
dusk laurel
i didnt really like the recipe qol much
untold oracle
> The following recipes were removed:
> Adhesive Bandage, Armor Polish, Band of ...
Mmm I liked these recipes but yeah ig Iβm fine with them going
split mortar
So they are easier and shimmerable
pulsar ocean
> The following recipes were removed:
> Adhesive Bandage, Armor Polish, Band of ...
how am i expected to get a sky mill now
cloud ibex
from sky islands probably
untold oracle
how am i expected to get a sky mill now
Sky islands
topaz shard
gravity potions π
split mortar
Its not that hard to come across a few in a worlds set of sky islands
topaz shard
from sky islands probably
can you please rename me to todd gorch
split mortar
Todβ¦
cloud ibex
it cannot be done
pulsar ocean
they are almost never at sky islands
topaz shard
it cannot be done
split mortar
They havent unclogged god
topaz shard
todd gorch
split mortar
they are almost never at sky islands
I find a few per world
dusk laurel
whos to say that
topaz shard
I find a few per world
but what if..? you didnt?
dusk laurel
the redone sky gen wont guarantee a sky mill
split mortar
The nefarious fishing
hoary berry
They havent unclogged god
untold oracle
Those who unclog
Tod: π
God: π¨
split mortar
Those who unclog
Tod: π
God: π¨
Mods
Ban them
hoary berry
tod will never unclog god
topaz shard
i put a mirror
split mortar
tod will never unclog god
Crying emoji
topaz shard
tod will never unclog god
too late, i just did
light linden
dusk laurel
strange user
split mortar
You are todd not tod
topaz shard
of all the gods round these parts, this guy was the easiest to unclog
topaz shard
You are todd not tod
its todd gorch, get it right
split mortar
Still not tod
hoary berry
iβve completely forgotten the lore related thing that i was planning to mention
split mortar
iβve completely forgotten the lore related thing that i was planning to mention
Are you aware solar fragments have PL
hoary berry
yes
split mortar
Aight
untold oracle
You are todd not tod
hoary berry
untold oracle
Iβm not lea here smh
topaz shard
split mortar
@mods change deltaw to lea please
dusk laurel
istg if this is how we lose our perms again
split mortar
Todd is using stickers which afaik dont count for images
split mortar
But yeah please do keep meme images down low
Image perms have already been nuked before
topaz shard
anyway
gritty kraken
Weβre losing messages perm with this one
topaz shard
607 - Reworked The Underworld's generation. - Done β
what is this gonna look like
dusk laurel
imo if you wanna talk about the changelogs
https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/711268703991365642 would be a better place
split mortar
Yeah
topaz shard
imo if you wanna talk about the changelogs
alright, but is it being reworked to better coincide with the lore that the underworld is where azafure is
like, why does it cut off
dusk laurel
not really
topaz shard
boo
dusk laurel
its getting reworked so the gen isnt shit
and therell be new buildings too
the crags (azafure) are for a different update
topaz shard
where the roadmap at
split mortar
Theres a doc with all future planned content in spoiler chat its prob somehwere in there
dusk laurel
no
split mortar
O
dusk laurel
the roadmap is basically
topaz shard
give it to me
dusk laurel
sunken sea overhaul -> minor updates and patches -> brimstone crags overhaul -> minor updates and patches -> distortion -> ??? -> dragon's aerie -> noxus and xeroc (?)
topaz shard
sunken sea overhaul -> minor updates and patches -> brimstone crags overhaul -> ...
knocks us and zerock arent being added i think
long bloom
reworked abyss and underworld gen
abyss rework in sso???
dusk laurel
yes
dusk laurel
knocks us and zerock arent being added i think
they might
long bloom
pog
dusk laurel
not that they wont
topaz shard
infernum abyss
long bloom
infernum abyss lowk doodoo
topaz shard
infernum abyss
topaz shard
just keep the void and throw everything else away
in fact, make the void take up like all the height and just make the rest extend into the dungeon because it would be very funny
i think the void being an arena is pretty neat
topaz shard
yeah but deadass i wish the abyss was just more spaced out, less cluttered
dusk laurel
youre in luck
topaz shard
... am i?
untold oracle
Zeratros secret final boss
dusk laurel
... am i?
the abyss gen rework makes the abyss wider
without fucking with the dungeon
topaz shard
the abyss gen rework makes the abyss wider
make it like, really wide
infernum void wide
dusk laurel
no thats a bad idea
topaz shard
dewit
split mortar
No its bad
topaz shard
actually just make the void big
topaz shard
that sounds funny
dusk laurel
new secret seed unlocked
topaz shard
lore accurate abyss
dusk laurel
no... ?
topaz shard
yes everything is meant to be massive
untold oracle
But you know what e-
untold oracle
Itβs long in the z axis
severe palm
They should do that
Every biome and structure has its own pre generated planetoid
Calamity custom maps when
split mortar
Calamity should have its own secret seeds
I dont think they will
thorn drift
Abyss shouldnt have background walls tbh
it should have a custom background that stretches far into the z axis
that'd look sick
thorn drift
you could just hide them in the walls and floating islands no?
prime mauve
no
thorn drift
oh damn
light linden
you could just hide them in the walls and floating islands no?
idt that'll work
the walls make it where there's constantly water in the abyss
split mortar
Make the acid sea walls produce the water smh
hoary cape
Make the blocks produce water obviously
mighty zenith
Make air produce water obviously
hoary cape
Make aureus produce water
long bloom
Make the acid sea walls produce the water smh
they already do
dusk laurel
astrum aquarius
long bloom
so the abyss walls are kinda useless
i agree there should be a background
that would instantly make it like double as creepy
ooo and what if you could see the primordial wyrm back there sometimes like eoc on the surface
that would be peak
mighty zenith
silva corpse
dusk laurel
praying it happens
long bloom
manifesting, even
prime mauve
so the abyss walls are kinda useless
The walls are literally what defines it as an abyss iirc
Like the jungle temple or dungeon
long bloom
just make it the blocks instead
prime mauve
that will be bad
accidentally walk too close to the abyss while mining? suffocate in air
long bloom
or hide the walls inside the tiles
split mortar
or hide the walls inside the tiles
Then the walls cant spawn the water
long bloom
the sulphur sea walls spawn water
that was my original point
the water already goes into the abyss
split mortar
Do they? I remember hearing people complaining they dont
long bloom
i haven't checked since my last playthrough a year and a half ago so i hope they didn't change it
lunar thorn
I'd be funny to get unsafe sulfurous walls to place in space above someone's house at the start of a run
split mortar
Idk
long bloom
draining abyss kills you still
lunar thorn
It can be done with sticky dynamite from a distance
You just gotta want to put effort into it
long bloom
touching air in the abyss kills you i mean
lunar thorn
I know, you can still do it without being in the abyss
split mortar
Abyss walls still spawn water
lunar thorn
Ok, good
split mortar
Its specificslly acid sea walls
That dont
Also you have to be post skeletron to get access ti the chests and by then theres a few ways to negate the drowning
lunar thorn
Will the God of electricity be giving lore to player by speaking?
lunar thorn
Ok, I thought she was being added as a new boss
cosmic zenith
No new bosses will be added until Yharim, a few years from now
lunar thorn
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I'll be fun seeing a spite around the player's size be so strong
Is leviathan anahita's warrior/paladin, like braelor is to silva?