lore-discussion

[languid badge]

I mean is the other party also required to use hands

[manic coral]

and tbf yeah i guess i did accidently imply that when my point was just

moreso

the thought of her trying that is funny

[split mortar]

cei insanity strikes again

[manic coral]

when doesn't it strike

[warped helm]

jjk universe is insanely weak compared to other fictional universes

[split mortar]

three days to the left

[warped helm]

honestly the terrarian at maybe like cultist level could wipe out the jjk verse lol

[split mortar]

iirc deus outscales basically everything in jjk

[manic coral]

it's really not cosnidering the average fictional character is

just mildly stronger than a normal person usually

[warped helm]

well yeah they're powerful compared to a regular human of course lol

but fiction gets kind of uh

crazy

[manic coral]

"fiction" isn't jsut fight-o fight-o shonen

[warped helm]

thats all

[manic coral]

99% of fiction is jsut normal people

[split mortar]

chat how do we scale king slime to universale

[warped helm]

good point

[languid badge]

hmmmmmm
well he has 3 of the chaos emeralds so thats a good start

[warped helm]

the ninja inside of king slime is actually a physical form of a forgotten god

[languid badge]

ok no he only has 1

but still

[warped helm]

king slime is so powerful that he managed to absorb it

[split mortar]

its prob master death with 3

[languid badge]

no

[split mortar]

sad

[languid badge]

master death has 1

[manic coral]

easy

[languid badge]

everything else has 0

[manic coral]

have yharim call it an incarnate of slime

therfore it is actually asll slime ever

[languid badge]

the ruby is a ruby and not an emeerald sadly

[manic coral]

and slime can consume stuff

[magic epoch]

slime elemental

[manic coral]

and i dont acutally specify what the limit of what it can consume is

therfore it can consume anything

therfore universal

[split mortar]

thats actually slimegod hence why late hardmode is multiversal lowball

[warped helm]

yharim technically being the narrator in cal is really cool

[split mortar]

explodes yharim with mind

[manic coral]

and then yharim trascends fiction and is a rela person irl now

he lived in my basement

but moved out a week ago

[warped helm]

yharim vs steaming hot honey bun

no match for humanities average arsenal

[split mortar]

chat yharim is gonna dropkick fabsol on friday itll be fun to watch

does auric attunement make yharims soul taste different

[magic epoch]

why would you ask such a thing

[manic coral]

but yeah sorry i was was being pedantic, just

[split mortar]

why not

[languid badge]

pot of pain is a post endgame item and who made the pot of pain?
checkmate, fabsol solos yharim

[split mortar]

pot of pain is fictional so yharim above that

[languid badge]

pot of pain is not fictional

[manic coral]

something that bothers me when

character that can destroy a city in a single attack
"lol weak fodder, 99% of fiction solos"

[split mortar]

this pot i have that will cause pain to you isnt

[manic coral]

and then 99% of fiction in question is just normal people

[languid badge]

o'brian from the hit 1949 book is actually superhuman trust

[manic coral]

anything past last being able to destroy a a town block is the exception to that not the baseline

[spare pier]

A city is already big as fuck, people don't understand it like

If you got out of your window and looked at it

You probably can't see your whole city

[split mortar]

destroys mountain with mind

[spare pier]

Even if you live in bumfuck nowhere

Someone who is powerful enough to destroy a city can kill you without you even being PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF SEEING THEM

[languid badge]

I would say that this can apply to a lot of things with much lower destructive power, however, who cares

[spring helm]

it's not about actual power

it's all about agenda

calamitas clears jjk because i like her more

[jaunty marsh]

This is 90% of jjk scaling lol

[languid badge]

see you get it

[split mortar]

calamitas clears dbs because i like her more

[spring helm]

nuh uh Broly is cooler

[jaunty marsh]

Now that might be a step too far

[cosmic zenith]

How unusual, all three of us in #lore-discussion at the same time

[jaunty marsh]

Still tho

Valid

Who could’ve guessed lol

[cosmic zenith]

The gaslight gatekeep girlboss squad is back together

[jaunty marsh]

Can I be the gaslighter

[cosmic zenith]

That's already me

[cloud ibex]

ok now who is the gatekeeper and who is the girlboss

[young socket]

cei is the girlboss

so reb is gatekeeper by elimination

[languid badge]

checks out

[split mortar]

@spare pier do you gatekeep

[cloud ibex]

the council has spoken

[young socket]

like

cei being the girlboss is not a question its just a statement

[spare pier]

Yeah kinda

[split mortar]

Ok good then its all true

[pliant ruin]

ok so whos the gaslighter

ok its stip

i saw him type in the chat and i was like oh right him

hes the gaslighter.

[cosmic zenith]

Good thinking, miss Gorthus

Most sane development to-do list

[dusk laurel]

graveyorthus

beautiful

[wheat walrus]

I am destruction

[cloud ibex]

his name? yhort

his crimes? high treason

[pliant ruin]

GRAVEYORTHUS

;SOB

[cosmic zenith]

I also need to design the Southern Atrium

[pulsar ocean]

why does the heart of draedon drop from his machines

why does draedon have a heart

[wheat walrus]

do you

?

[manic coral]

eh gaslight is pretty debatable too

[pulsar ocean]

does your vacuum robot have a heart

[pliant ruin]

i'm the girl 378

[wheat walrus]

clearly it does

[young socket]

im the original star princess

[wheat walrus]

enchain that gullet, you entire asparagus

[pliant ruin]

wow.

rude.

[pulsar ocean]

but there are only 8 people in the world

[wheat walrus]

the wholly asparagus is gyving not their maxilla

[wheat walrus]

seal your terrible maw, spaghetto

wasters of wind and flame

[pulsar ocean]

WIND?

LIKE WINDS OF DESTRUCTION FROM METAL GEAR RISING REVENGENCE

[wheat walrus]

enchain thy gullet within immediate moments

cease wasting our flames and winds

instead

go forth, wield the winds and flames, so to bring the grandiose changes the world's been waiting for

[cosmic zenith]

Winds and Flames huh

[wheat walrus]

evil poet out

wind is breath and flame is energy

gng

[pliant ruin]

i'm the joker baby

[wheat walrus]

i'm the killing you with longsword baby

[pliant ruin]

can't do that

[wheat walrus]

oh i forgot you need to attack if i wanna counter 😔

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-idea-lightbulb-gears-spongebob-gif-4947157

[wheat walrus]

heheheyyyyyyyyy

heheheyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[pulsar ocean]

ELDEN RING SWORD OF NIGHT AND FLAME

[cosmic zenith]

I will say

[wheat walrus]

idk what brain gears those are

did I accidentally hit some calamity lore thing

[cosmic zenith]

Conceptualizing structures for the Sunken Sea Overhaul is so easy if you ignore previously functional buildings

[pliant ruin]

Yeah you awakened stip's lost memory of the dragon of wind and how he fought the dragon of flame in a bloody fight due to flame's acts of treason and senseless violence which went against the dragonkin's laws

[cosmic zenith]

So the ruins in the Desert, and actual stuff in the Sunken Sea

[wheat walrus]

*storm

heh

[pliant ruin]

no it's wind

it's wind and flame not storm and flame

the dragon of wind simply hasn't been revealed yet you see

[wheat walrus]

so I stumbled upon a new dragon or 🤨

[pliant ruin]

they call me the leaker

[dusk laurel]

the dragon of wind and flame

[pliant ruin]

nobody calls me that

they call me girl378

[wheat walrus]

yea it's prolly either false or it's layered and it's meant to sound false but actually isn't

[pliant ruin]

anyways will any of these structures have like unique blocks/tiles or will it mostly reuse stuff from vanilla and/or stuff previoussly added by the mod

[cosmic zenith]

Though more... presentation-based buildings such as the Southern Atrium or the main-building-I-will-not-tell-you-about

Epic embed failure

[young socket]

i forgot i had the link on my clipboard and not the actual

[cosmic zenith]

Wait did image perms get restored

[young socket]

_ _

image

[young socket]

ye

[wheat walrus]

yes

[dusk laurel]

image perms were a mistake

[cosmic zenith]

Nice

[wheat walrus]

you're late to the party

[pulsar ocean]

what is ts from

[young socket]

genshin

[cosmic zenith]

Unique blocks and tiles, of course

[wheat walrus]

and im going to sear and slice you

[dusk laurel]

yummers

[young socket]

its fontaines main city, which has a comical amount of nonsensical city choices

[wheat walrus]

alternatively: 57 rifles

[young socket]

like if it was a real city it wouldnt have been built that way at all

[pulsar ocean]

havent played genshin since the chasm got added

[young socket]

shame

[cosmic zenith]

Though what I have written so far (non-ruin structures in the UG Desert) uses very few new assets compared to other plans

[young socket]

lots of its story concepts r peak they just dont always execute it well

like pyro archon

[pliant ruin]

Cool

[pulsar ocean]

why is water everywhere are there fish people living there

[young socket]

yeah

[dusk laurel]

creature

[pulsar ocean]

have they added russia and celestia yet

[young socket]

no

[pulsar ocean]

shame

[young socket]

pretty sure theyre not even doing snezhnaya next

[pulsar ocean]

whaat

[pliant ruin]

if u guys lose image perms again u wont have me to bring them back next time btw

[young socket]

think nod krai is being done instead

[pliant ruin]

use your perms wisely

[young socket]

(justrealised this makes no sense if u havent played recently lmao)

[pulsar ocean]

genshin devs be doing anything but progressing the main storyline

[pulsar ocean]

it does

[pulsar ocean]

ill ask girl379

[cosmic zenith]

Mmmmmmmmmmm

Bike Scarecrow in a Shed

[young socket]

still genshin has peak concepts

[young socket]

what

[young socket]

and peaker ost

holy shit hoyo games never miss withg their ost

[pliant ruin]

this is so lore fr

[young socket]

it is!

[pulsar ocean]

calamity lore

[young socket]

just ask reb

[pulsar ocean]

could yharim beat fnaf 4

[young socket]

yeah

[cosmic zenith]

The scripture

I am happy to say one of my conceptualized (implementation not guaranteed) structures for the Timeless Shores is the Bladeforge of Gorthus

[dusk laurel]

if this is real then its peak

[young socket]

its not

i will go into the dev server and fight against stip

to make this NOT real

under ANY circumstance

[cosmic zenith]

Where the Bladeporch is quiet and the Bladehammer sings upon the harsh Bladeanvil

[young socket]

the bladeperson picks up the bladesword and bladeswings it to kill the bladenemy

[soft geyser]

Dog is British

[cosmic zenith]

I have a bladereverse card
Get bladecapitated, peasant

[dusk laurel]

the bladed sea and its bladed fish

[devout robin]

Why did draedon call them exo mechs

Is he stupid

[cosmic zenith]

@pliant ruin Pick a number - 1, 2 or 3

[devout robin]

Actually ig this is a fair enough name cause they're mechs that aren't being piloted but like

[cosmic zenith]

Exo comes from the Exo Prisms which, in return, are named after the "exotic resonance" phenomenon that powers them

[pliant ruin]

Hmmm... 2

[cosmic zenith]

God you are not a lucky person

[young socket]

wtf girl378

why would u do this to us

[pliant ruin]

Calsad

[cosmic zenith]

I will grant you a second chance and some tips

[sand mountain]

if theres exo prisms, are there also endo prisms

[young socket]

no because exo is a shorthand for exotic, not the "exo-" root

[sand mountain]

so are there native prisms?

calamity fandom wiki type shit

[cosmic zenith]

1 is not unexpected, but it holds a special surprise... would you choose to discover it in the release, as I would?
3 is... interesting, but shorter in both planning and physical size.... would it match your expectations?

[pliant ruin]

🤔

I say... 3

[spring helm]

exo from "exotic resonance", so Exo Prism would likely derive from something like "Exotic Resonance generating Prism"

maybe

i made that up just now

[pliant ruin]

It may be small, but sometimes small, interesting bits are nice to have. The big surprises will come in due time >:)

[dusk laurel]

true!

[cosmic zenith]

Charm Shrines are small shrines built by Ilmerans after the Incineration to bless any passing Ilmeran survivors. They count with two Obelisks around a round Charm Tablet, which bears a glowing cyan sigil.
Variants:
[  ] Standard (3): standard structure.
[  ] Ruined (1): broken Obelisks, stolen Tablet.
[  ] Blessed (1): pristine, piles of gold coins.```
```CHARM SHRINES

The Obelisks in Charm Shrines bear prayers of protection, requesting that Ilmeran survivors may be blessed with safe travel across the Desert.

The first prayer is more broad yet descriptive, appearing on both Obelisks in regular Shrines (Standard).

• By the grace of our fallen Gods, we bless our surviving brethren. May your steps be true and your journey fullfilling.

The second prayer calls to Otonilou and Tyrian, not specifying whether they are alive or not at the time of the prayer's creation. The first sentence is written on the left Obelisk, while the second is written on the right one. Evoking the names of the Gods apparently kept these Shrines unmarred (Blessed).

• O Goddess Otonilou, may your spark shine true in the hearts of all Ilmerans. 
• O Tyrian Divine, may the flow of your waters forever guide our travels.

The Obelisks in Ruined Shrines were intensely vandalized, and so they lack readable prayers.```

Note that I wrote this last week as a concept
It's not guaranteed in the slightest

[young socket]

still cant believe 2 was literally nothing and cheese picked it

[cosmic zenith]

2 wasn't nothing, just... less interesting to you

[young socket]

wa

[cosmic zenith]

But it is quite unique

It'll make for a good surprise....

[pliant ruin]

This is cool :3

Would they have any functionality? It'd be cool if right clicking the charm gave you a small temporary buff 🤔 Dosen't seem hard to code either

Even if not, it's very cool worldbuilding

It's good to show that even now, illmeran culture lives on through their few living members

[visual kiln]

p

charm shrine

[young socket]

no more p

[pliant ruin]

Read!!!

[visual kiln]

also hiiiii stip

[young socket]

no

[pliant ruin]

the LOR

[young socket]

i cant read im an undertale calamity fan

[visual kiln]

what do charm shrines do ingame

[pliant ruin]

Not talking to u stinky

[visual kiln]

they seem like an interesting concept :3

[young socket]

WHAT

well im not ever gonna talk to u anymore

SILLY IDIOT

[languid badge]

damn

[pliant ruin]

I suggested for the charms to maybe give a temp buff on right click, which seems v simple to implement and adds a tiny bit of mechanical use to them, but i think even if just as worldbuilding they're already p interesting :3

[visual kiln]

ya i like that idea :3

shrines that give u things r cool

interactables r awesome

[pliant ruin]

it shows that illmerans and their culture r still alive

And i like tha alot

[visual kiln]

ya :3

[cosmic zenith]

I suggested that and a counterpart mechanic for structure 1

https://tenor.com/view/tanjiro-chef-gif-23236151

[spring helm]

temp buff: immunity to brimstone flames

[pliant ruin]

yay

[cosmic zenith]

Hello!

[visual kiln]

p

hruuuuu :3

[ruby flame]

Man I just want too say what a great mod.

[limpid saddle]

Is that from the demon slayer game?

[cosmic zenith]

Yes

[cosmic zenith]

Good, how about you?

[cosmic zenith]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

[ionic harness]

my hunger has been satisfied

i wanna keep it warm in the oven for the next time im feeling peckish for lore

[stuck shore]

Who are you?

Just curious

[scenic olive]

Stip

[visual kiln]

thats stip

[split mortar]

Stipulatevenus
A lore dev and builder iirc

[whole parrot]

I'm new here so I'm not sure if this was asked already but what is the Ceaseless Void. the other servants are actually things, but Ceaseless is just... a black box. so what is Ceaseless anyway?

[long bloom]

a portal to the distortion

also none of the servants work for dog anymore

it's stupid

[pulsar ocean]

portal to the distortion made by dog's boss noxus

[long bloom]

storm weaver and signus are just random distortion creatures now

question

do we know the domains of the dragons silva, tyrian and provi killed?

[light linden]

Life, seas, and flame iirc

[long bloom]

silva is called the goddess of life tho

[light linden]

Yes

[long bloom]

doesn't the domain change every time

[gritty kraken]

She’s that good

[light linden]

For most yes

She perfectly ascended

Same as Xeroc

[split mortar]

Xeroc and silva are the exceptions

[long bloom]

one of them should be nature

[split mortar]

We dunno tyrians dragon, seas is the gods domain not the dragons

[light linden]

Ohp

Mb

[split mortar]

Silva is the elemental of nature aswell

[long bloom]

i see why yharim killed her

i don't wanna deal with her either

jesus

[split mortar]

Elementals cant truly die

[long bloom]

you know what i mean

will the other elementals get actual names or only anahita and silva

[split mortar]

Dont think they will

[long bloom]

fucking hell

[cosmic minnow]

Favouritism at its finest (I’m pretty sure the others just aren’t as important)

[split mortar]

They were also given the names before the rewrite

[long bloom]

i just want all the sapient characters we know of to have names so my list can be complete

instead of having to write down [unnamed dragon] 1-6

[wheat walrus]

call brimmy guren the way she a crimson lotus

[light linden]

It's a bit up on the air iirc

Sand Elemental and Cloud Elementals are both basically hiveminds so idk if a name would work

[split mortar]

Apart from silva the elementals arent really
Sapient
Sentient yes
But idk if they are sapient

[light linden]

And brimmy the devs have been going back and forth on iirc

[lethal mirage]

aaaa

[split mortar]

We need more gay in calamity

[cosmic minnow]

I think we need relationships for that in the first place

and there’s… uhhh how many?

1?

[split mortar]

1

[cosmic minnow]

and it’s already gay

[split mortar]

Or 2? Not 3

[cosmic minnow]

so we good rn

[lethal mirage]

a million more gay

[cosmic minnow]

The rest is what? Single, asexual or can’t be bothered with a relationship

[mighty zenith]

if you wanna make relationships, make OCs

[cosmic minnow]

Granted, relationships are not that important for a good story

[cosmic minnow]

I already have

[mighty zenith]

yeah i think calamity is just
one of those stories where relationships don't really fit in well

the main cast is insanely fucked up mentally and the world is basically in a constant disarray and war

[lethal mirage]

i can fix draedon

[mighty zenith]

who says he needs fixing

[lethal mirage]

true

[mighty zenith]

[lethal mirage]

draedon can fix me

[mighty zenith]

draedon can repair me

[long bloom]

insert tech-priest reference

[cosmic minnow]

I honestly don’t mind much

Id even dare say that all those fictional world with 5 million relationships are rather annoying

Having calamity with little to no love stuff is refreshing

[lethal mirage]

clearly you havent seen astarion from baldurs gate

[dusk laurel]

?

signus is not a random he's much more important than dog in the distortion

[mighty zenith]

they have way more potential when not just being DoG's underlings

[dusk laurel]

cv before the rewrite was just like some black hole

[mighty zenith]

weaver was just younger DoG

signus was pretty cool but i dont think he should've been DoG's servant anyway

[dusk laurel]

now its a portal noxus made during the dragon era that the cultist use as an infinite power source

[long bloom]

yeah i guess

i still want dog to have sentinels tho

partly cause if he doesn't, the music makes no sense

[dusk laurel]

the sentinel themes?

[long bloom]

yeah

[dusk laurel]

yeah they dont make sense

id rather the trio get their own themes

especially signus

[long bloom]

it's gonna be 3 only tangentially related bosses with one theme now

[dusk laurel]

since theyre gonna become actual bosses instead of glorified minibosses that served dog

[mighty zenith]

shrimply add sidetracked's themes for the sentinels

(they're really fucking good go listen

[long bloom]

i will do that

not a fan of the storm weaver intro but the rest fuckin slaps oh my god

hm

i don't feel cv theme fits the vibe that well

[hoary berry]

i’ll never forget the hype i felt when listening to Your Shadow for the first time

silhouette not shadow

fuck

how did i forget that

[mighty zenith]

agreed

your silhouette is def my favorite

followed by supercell rogue

and second law at the end

[long bloom]

it's absolute cinema

[mighty zenith]

but still i think adding them to the mod would be awesome, maybe with a config for servants of the scourge for those who like it more

[limpid saddle]

you seem very exasperated by, uh, 'all this™️ '

[long bloom]

??

[limpid saddle]

cough

[limpid saddle]

cough

[limpid saddle]

cough

[long bloom]

i have many opinions

[limpid saddle]

they seem rather negative

[long bloom]

okay

[limpid saddle]

though what do you mean with the 'ceaseless voids theme doesnt really fit it' thing?

[long bloom]

the one made by sidetracked

i don't feel it

[limpid saddle]

Im afraid I havent listened to that one, & thus cant reflect my opinion

thought you were talking about Servants Of The Scourge Type V

[cosmic sandal]

which boss do you think would taste the best

serious lore question here which boss would take the best if seared, grilled, fried whatever

[cosmic sandal]

ceaseless void and signus are really cool and i wanna know so much more about them

[mighty zenith]

not again

time is a circle

[cloud ibex]

time is a flat circle

[hoary berry]

[dusk laurel]

trauma

[cosmic sandal]

it is the question that cannot be answered

and we all know its yharon

[mighty zenith]

no its the question that has been asked thousands of times here

maybe not thousands but its a lot

[cosmic sandal]

damn let me get a new one

which boss, insert a buzzword

anyway yeah ceaseless void cool

[magic epoch]

which boss homosexual

[cloud ibex]

DoG depending on who he's talking to

[magic epoch]

[cloud ibex]

DoG is every type of phobic

he chooses the one that'd piss off whoever he's talking to the most

[cosmic sandal]

a good list of factors need to be ticked for this to even occur

[cosmic sandal]

ragebaitphobic

[magic epoch]

ragebaitsexual

[cosmic minnow]

Average twitter/reddit users be like that

[cloud ibex]

yea DoG definitely uses both

[cosmic zenith]

Nobody

[cosmic zenith]

(Storm Weaver was always a Distortion creature)
But neither of them are random
The name "Servants" also isn't getting used if not for the sake of convenience

[cosmic zenith]

Tyrian's wasn't Seas

[pulsar ocean]

How much Reddit karma does dog have

[cosmic zenith]

We're not removing Dokuro's theme, but we did consider making new Sentinel themes as an official addon

[limpid saddle]

That's a pretty reasonable response, Servants Of The Scourge has a pretty big legacy behind it, & there'd undoubtably be alot of pushback if it was unceremoniously removed, & it's intriguing to hear new themes remain a possibility through an add-on

though I still think Servants of The Scourge very well represents each character it fits, & every Distortion boss sharing a motif is a cool concept to me, it'd be interesting to hear more modern versions of their characters represented audibly

[robust osprey]

make a toggleable alt theme for distortion trio

[dusk laurel]

it could just be left as music boxes

thered be no point in just nuking if completely

theres already a precedent of legacy music boxes anyway

[dusk laurel]

the issue is that the motiff screams at your face that the bosses are related to dog, it was meant to be an indicator that they were dog's servants after all

[stuck shore]

Idk I think someone else is using stip’s body again

That’s why I asked

[noble niche]

Queen slime

Eol is prob a lesbian she's giving those vibes

Draedon

Umm

Umm

Dragonfolly

And lastly, me

Cause I'm da boss

[limpid saddle]

queen slime is slime god & slime god is gender fluid so they're probably bi or pan

[dusk laurel]

queen slime is a paladin that contains the slime god

imagine getting stuck in your own creation

[robust osprey]

EoL is transexual lesbian

confirmed by me

[magic epoch]

all the hallow bosses are trans

[faint plank]

quite holy

[long bloom]

all hallow enemies are trans too fuck it why not

[stoic gulch]

All enemies are trans

[magic epoch]

rainbow slimes, illuminant bats, and hallowed mimics are definitely not trans ican say that much

for the others I didn't list im not sure

[frozen zodiac]

they transitioned into having hallowed energy

[split mortar]

Rainbow slimes are gay AND trans

[lunar thorn]

I'd be funny if Fabsol made the executive decision that she be made Cirrus in lore even if it doesn't make sense to the lore.

[split mortar]

Cirrus is being made canon

[lunar thorn]

Yharim seeing player ride pink alicorn to meet 'em in battle, "What is that! You can't crusade with that! I'd tarnish my reputation!"

[dry agate]

Still find it quite interesting how the Tundra was made by Permafrost and a good chunk of the creatures encountered there are as well

"chubj" 💔

[young socket]

tundra wasnt made by permafrost

[dry agate]

That's what I got out of the lore? Maybe I interpreted it wrong

[robust osprey]

probably old lore

[young socket]

no where does it say that

[dry agate]

Maybe ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deft vessel]

Tundra was a thing, but Permafrost amplified it with his magic

[dry agate]

Ah that makes more sense

Lemme pull up the lore rq one sec

[deft vessel]

"The tundra's unnatural state is not all my doing. Decades ago, I came across it and amplified the climate with my magic."

[young socket]

old lores reasoning for tundra was daedalus explosion

[unborn wind]

Whyd he do tgat. Permafrost baby you cant just fuck with local climates for no reason

[robust osprey]

he can he just did it

[split mortar]

The local climate might already be artificial

[long bloom]

read ice clasper bestiary

[dry agate]

Lemme find it again rq

Ah yes, that's right

I'm quite tired so I kinda forgot reading it yesterday 💔

[split mortar]

Rip

[lethal mirage]

no rainbow slimes are definitely trans

forgot to reply

whoopss

[pulsar ocean]

is permafrost permanently frosted

[lethal mirage]

hes cool as hell

[split mortar]

Its how they have lives for so long

[lunar thorn]

when permafrost finds out about frosted flakes:

[lethal mirage]

frosted tips

[lunar thorn]

did you see the 🔥 and dope and swag "Chicken Jockey" spoiler Fabsol just blessed us with for Cal's future!?!?!

can't wait for that lore to drop with the Cirrus lore

[spring helm]

what

[lethal mirage]

what

[lunar thorn]

check the spoilers channel

[lethal mirage]

oh

the new channel

[split mortar]

Cant find

[lethal mirage]

#spoilers

[robust osprey]

yharon jockey

[lunar thorn]

Yharim riding Yharon to battle

[jaunty marsh]

Can we consider

Tooltips accurate descriptions of different weapons

Or no

[lethal mirage]

i think some of them are overexaggerated

[jaunty marsh]

Because if we do than it absolutely throws powerscaling out the window lol

Yep

[young socket]

if its saying anything about how strong it is then no

[jaunty marsh]

Arc of the cosmos being able to rip through space time, helium flash having the power of a galaxy

Yea lol

I was just wondering

[young socket]

i mean if u want a tooltip written in new lore theres auric having boundless power

[jaunty marsh]

Anyone who hold auric bars instantly low diffs DB verse

[split mortar]

Many are just cool factor and not genuine

[jaunty marsh]

Yea I thought so lol

[split mortar]

That space time one of ark may be one of the few genuine ones iirc

[young socket]

only because we see space time literally fixing itself less than a second later

[jaunty marsh]

Well in that case it DEFENELY breaks the scaling lol

Just the weapon alone being at universal level in a verse of ~country-planet level threats is a little unbalanced

[split mortar]

Its city level for yharim

[spring helm]

ok well just because it has the ability to cut spacetime doesn't mean it will bust through the planet

[split mortar]

Also like
Isnt uni+ a entire space time not just a paper cut

[jaunty marsh]

Just the ability to cut through SPACE insinuates that it can cut through just about any matter

Let alone time

[jaunty marsh]

I mean yea

But assuming that the terrarian can use it at full potential

[lethal mirage]

its like a little slice

[jaunty marsh]

It can probably get there

[lethal mirage]

it can could through a little of anything

[split mortar]

Wdym full potential

Like

Mountain level energy fucking destroys the strongest material we know of

Which is auric

[lethal mirage]

like saying if you could use scissors at full potential

still scissors

[spring helm]

what is full potential supposed to mean anyway

[split mortar]

^

[spring helm]

cut the little bit we can cut better?

[lethal mirage]

yea

[jaunty marsh]

Pressing Right Click while holding UP with empowered charges will provoke a Big Rip in spacetime and use all charges

A big rip

[spring helm]

yeah

[split mortar]

That just opens a portal to the distortion probably

[jaunty marsh]

Is the theory that the entirety of spacetime gets ripped apart

[split mortar]

Which dog and signus can do

[spring helm]

it's bigger than you so i'd say it's quite big

[lethal mirage]

no its just a cool name

[split mortar]

Its a cool name based on that

Doesnt mean it causes that

The highest feat in calamity is country level over the course of days to weeks done by scal

[lethal mirage]

is it even country level if it took so long

[spring helm]

it wiped out a country so

[hoary berry]

true

[jaunty marsh]

Hold up I’m thinking of an argument

[lethal mirage]

yeah but i could mine a whole mountain

it would take years

but i could do it

doesnt mean im mountain level

[spring helm]

maybe you are

[lethal mirage]

im higher.

[dusk laurel]

the calculations say yea

ask pomni he might know

[split mortar]

It averages out to city level

[jaunty marsh]

Well by that logic ANYBODY can be island or mountain level

[split mortar]

Per second

[jaunty marsh]

I could spend like 30 years collecting tons of explosives and then blow up a city

[lethal mirage]

exactly which is why i think its silly

[pulsar trellis]

cities per second is quite an interesting unit lol

[jaunty marsh]

Or calamities can do it all in 1 second

Does that mean we’re both city level?

[spring helm]

yes

[scenic olive]

Couldve Xeroc become something like

[spring helm]

now go fist fight her

[jaunty marsh]

Will do

[scenic olive]

God of Radiation of smth if his ascension didnt get perfected

[split mortar]

Means you do one city level attack with fuck ton preperation while scal does so easily

[split mortar]

God of skin cancer

[pulsar trellis]

i think the powerscaling comparisons only really works if u give both parties equal amounts of prep time (like if u got 30 years then ur opponent would get 30 years as well)

[lethal mirage]

god of melanoma is crazy

[jaunty marsh]

Unfortunately tho

That doesn’t happen in cal verse lol

[split mortar]

I can just grab the calc omni dod

[lethal mirage]

yea right?

why does scal get weeks

[lethal mirage]

why everyone else gets an instant

[jaunty marsh]

If scal were to spend a full 30 years collecting tons of energy, she could probably blow up the entire planet, likely more

But we dunno

Because it hasn’t happened

[split mortar]

Ehhhh
Planet is much bigger then country

[jaunty marsh]

I mean yea but it’s 30 years

Not just like

2

[split mortar]

And its a fucking planet

[jaunty marsh]

And it’s not over time it’s all collected and released all at once

[split mortar]

What scal did was less then the meteor that killed the dinos

[lethal mirage]

that didnt even destroy a planet

it made it warm

[split mortar]

That can hit the planet once a day and its gonna not destroy the planet
Kill all life yes

But not kaboom the planet

[prime mauve]

is yharim stronger than the incredible hulk

[jaunty marsh]

Wait a minute

[lethal mirage]

depends which hulk

[prime mauve]

The incredible one

[jaunty marsh]

Then why is scal at city level when she technically didn’t completely destroy azafure

[lethal mirage]

not specific enough....

[jaunty marsh]

Or the sunken sea

Only killed all life there

Why can’t she be planet level if she kills all life on the planet

[long bloom]

most consistent powerscaling terminology:

[jaunty marsh]

Hulk held a black hole in his mouth once

Ion think yharim can do that

[jaunty marsh]

Yep lol

[prime mauve]

are you sure

[lethal mirage]

yharim could beat some hulks i think

but most hulks are insane

[dusk laurel]

im blaming melon for all of this

[split mortar]

Wha

[lethal mirage]

there are like hulks as strong as UI goku

[split mortar]

Planet level means destroying the planet

[mighty zenith]

comic book hulks are ridiculous

mcu hulk is more manageable

[lethal mirage]

comic book anyone is ridicolous

[mighty zenith]

true

[split mortar]

She was trying to protect it

[lethal mirage]

like any character has a comic where they are just god

[strange stump]

comic books are ridiculous

[lethal mirage]

and its awesome

[split mortar]

Says you

[mighty zenith]

hi pace

[jaunty marsh]

Still though it should be consistent

[dusk laurel]

hi sace

[strange stump]

hi garbo :D

[split mortar]

sace

[jaunty marsh]

She technically buried the sunken sea

That was a city

[dusk laurel]

on purpose

[jaunty marsh]

But she didn’t kill all life there

[split mortar]

Ilmeris was a kingdom

[jaunty marsh]

Ok fine a kingdom

[dusk laurel]

bury?

[jaunty marsh]

But most kingdoms are also cities no?

[dusk laurel]

in calamity yeah

most nations are city states

[long bloom]

semantics moment

[dusk laurel]

ilmeris was not one of those

[jaunty marsh]

Oh ok mb

[dusk laurel]

imo powerscaling is pretty boring

[split mortar]

It was boiled

[jaunty marsh]

Ohh ok that makes more sense

Yea ok mb

[split mortar]

Most of the underground desert was sunken sea pre scal

[lunar thorn]

Terrarian using Cheat Sheet to copy+paint the sunken sea over the desert before fighting desert scourge:

Can the Sunken Sea tiles still be corrupted by world evil spread?

[split mortar]

Dont think so

[lunar thorn]

👍 I remember that happening along time ago. Crimson part of the 'V' got it

[dusk laurel]

yeah

last i checked

[hoary cape]

Corrupt sunken Sea

[pulsar ocean]

capitalism

[wheat walrus]

country level is the whole

the partial value

as in an average based on the timespan

uhh

city level I think it was

it's kinda consistent with stuff like storm weaver's storm creation stuff and astrum deus' meteor causing an earthquake so

[split mortar]

@lethal mirage

[lethal mirage]

o

thankss

[wheat walrus]

powersailing

[lethal mirage]

powerscaling too complicated for me

i mean not really

[wheat walrus]

depends

[lethal mirage]

but i read like comics and powerscaling too wacky for that

[wheat walrus]

if we're talking abt good ol tiering system stuff

[lethal mirage]

yes this hulk easily defeats this hulk which easily defeats this iron man but they all lose to this iron man

[lethal mirage]

mm i understand the system n stuff

im pretty sure

[wheat walrus]

I think it starts getting weird with higher dimensional scaling but truly starts being blegh with outer and above, but that's also cause these are odd tiers

[lethal mirage]

ive look at the wiki thing

[wheat walrus]

yea

but also keep in mind vsbattles is not the only one, it's the most popular one

[lethal mirage]

ic

thats just what im most familar with

[wheat walrus]

and also how, given powerscaling being subjective, sometimes people adhere to certain rules but not some others

[wheat walrus]

fair

[lethal mirage]

my dad could beat your dad

[wheat walrus]

I think the tiering system itself is fine, works as a measuring stick to compare fictional characters' powers when they aren't in the same story/setting

[lethal mirage]

yea

[wheat walrus]

but also the higher tiers do get a bit messy (it's where definitions change the most across other wikis and places)

[lethal mirage]

you seem well informed

[wheat walrus]

I do powerscaling

[lethal mirage]

slay

[wheat walrus]

or well, did, I still do occasionally but idrc

[lethal mirage]

cool

i would get into it more but i dont have enough free time and it seems very

in depth

i just want to sleep all day

[wheat walrus]

main stuff I powerscale is either I'm the only active one that has bothered to talk w writers n stuff (Calamity), meaning that I'm mostly stable and don't need to do much, or I'm still among the people who delved deepest into info stuff but I don't wanna make myself too wide (monster hunter)

[lethal mirage]

i see

didnt a new monster hunter just release

[wheat walrus]

almost 2 months ago, Wilds

I have yet to play it, I will very soon

[lethal mirage]

maybe i should play it

[wheat walrus]

it looks peak, lore stuff about it especially is banger, but that's from a loreguy

[lethal mirage]

i played quite a bit of world

[wheat walrus]

world is great

[paper spindle]

I'm a bit bored. Anyone got any head cannons about calamity lore?

I've got one about the Distortion if anyone wants to read me yap about it

[split mortar]

That ceaseless void is why the dungeon fucks with souls

[paper spindle]

Hmm. But ceaseless void was created by the devourer

[split mortar]

That and almost all lore got rewrote 2 ish years ago

[paper spindle]

Wasn't the dungeon already filled with alot of other soul shit going on before that

[split mortar]

Even new writers popped up

[paper spindle]

Wait. But I'd read that in Dreadon lore literally today

[split mortar]

Draedon says dog couldnt have made it so you misread something there

[paper spindle]

Huh. Reading comprehension of mine is set to 0

[split mortar]

Average calamity fan moment it happens to us all dw

[paper spindle]

Then what's the void's connection to the devourer

[split mortar]

Barely any
Ceaseless void is made by noxus most likely
Noxus is likely the true boss of DoG

[paper spindle]

Who's noxus?

[split mortar]

A planned post yharim superboss from the distortion who is the most mysterious figure in cal lore (or one of them)

We know like 2-3 maybes and 1 truth of it

[paper spindle]

Oh wait. Yeah Draedon did say something about beings in the Distortion behaving like a hive mind and that the essences the devourer devours just disappeared

[split mortar]

Yeah those are theorised to be noxus related

With hivemind being controlled by noxus and essence going to noxus/being used by them somehow

[paper spindle]

Nice so my theory was right. Well probably end up fighting him

Now my second question

What's Providence got to do with the servants of the scourge. Like why does she drop the rune of Kos

[pliant ruin]

outdated

[split mortar]

The rune of kos is like, hyper dense providence god essence i believe
Tho the sentinels spawning from it is just remnants of old lore (like signus still being called the envoy of the scourge)

[pliant ruin]

all of those bosses will get unique spawn methods at one point, i reckon

they have no relation to providence or the devourer anymore, so

[pliant ruin]

rune of kos is Not Real

[paper spindle]

Hmm I see

[split mortar]

Still better to propose a theoretical answer and elaborate then just say doesnt exist imo

[pliant ruin]

mark of providence ........ clearly

[paper spindle]

Still hope they keep the banger themes though

[pliant ruin]

no its not

its just saying a headcanon u made up and presenting it as actual fact

sends u to hell

[split mortar]

[pliant ruin]

I like servants of the scourge b ut i hope they get new themes

[split mortar]

Their relation to dog is minimal at best so yeah i think itd be best

[pliant ruin]

Servants of the scourge not only dosen't fit them too much but also makes them feel way too much like minibosses

[split mortar]

^

[pliant ruin]

it dosen't make them feel like individuals, it makes them feel as a part of a whole

[split mortar]

signus potentially out ranks devourer in hierarchy iirc

[pliant ruin]

Sidetracked's distortion trio themes imo fits them really well and is a great example of what could be done with their themes to make them more fitting, unique while still reusing similar motifs

[dusk laurel]

we should steam melon gun iirc

[pliant ruin]

i recommend listening to them

[split mortar]

Vanillin with random violence wants yet again

[split mortar]

Bruh

[paper spindle]

Yeah I'd say they're all individuals Void is a portal, signus is (idk) and storm weaver is a whole different worm

[split mortar]

Cheese also wanting violence upon me

[paper spindle]

Probably an older one too

[dusk laurel]

melon paranoia

[pliant ruin]

Signus is a distortion being much like Noxus

[dusk laurel]

cheese was talking abt the sidetracked themes

not me

[pliant ruin]

Just, unrelated

While Devourer is in direct service of Noxus, seemingly, Signus is doing it's own thing, unaffiliated

[paper spindle]

Okay another question.

[split mortar]

Deus noodles when

[paper spindle]

Anyone think we'll ever fight a stronger Astrum deus

[dusk laurel]

no

[paper spindle]

Exactly

[split mortar]

Boss bloat so no

Not in base cal

[pliant ruin]

There won't be any new bosses in cal besides Yharim, maybe Noxus and Xeroc

[paper spindle]

Aww

[pliant ruin]

(Thank god!!!)

[split mortar]

Theres already a fuck ton

[paper spindle]

Draedon did mention that our Astrum deus was a weaker one

[split mortar]

Not weaker
Juvenile

[pliant ruin]

cal has so many bosses to the point its progression is hell torture to work with 😭

[limpid saddle]

they are part of a hivemind

[pliant ruin]

nah

[paper spindle]

I was hoping for like a primordial Astrum deus

[pliant ruin]

ceaseless is literally an Object

[dusk laurel]

no

[split mortar]

Why isnt storm weaver then?

[pliant ruin]

weaver is specified to have been separated from the hivemind

signus is unaffiliated

literally none of them r part of the hivemind

😭

[split mortar]

Dog might but imo thats unlikely

By a large margin of unlikely

[pliant ruin]

yeah DoG is the only one that might be but i dont buy it

[limpid saddle]

damn alright be like that

[young socket]

dog prob has his own brain but is being controlled

[limpid saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-sukuna-i-don't-care-hand-face-gif-6233163205990621395

[pliant ruin]

id believe that

[young socket]

its lime hes some king of servant,,,,

[limpid saddle]

fuck

[pliant ruin]

epic embed fail

[dusk laurel]

epic embed fail

[split mortar]

Embed fail kill this man

[limpid saddle]

i forgot we have no rights

[dusk laurel]

laugh at this user

who said we

[limpid saddle]

mf you cant post tenor gifs either

[limpid saddle]

not here anyway

[limpid saddle]

This proves nothing the issue is that tenor wont embed not gifs

[split mortar]

Skill issue

[pliant ruin]

you have SOME rights

and its thanks

to ME

[paper spindle]

Oh yeah another question I had

[limpid saddle]

im gonna go jump off a bridge

[dusk laurel]

no dont

[paper spindle]

If the astral infection only appears in hard mode then how has it always existed

[dusk laurel]

its in space

[limpid saddle]

its in space

[dusk laurel]

snail

[pliant ruin]

It only shows up on your planet in hardmode, because the meteor falls then

[limpid saddle]

LITERALLY killing myself

[pliant ruin]

It has always existed, it only made contact in hardmode

[cloud ibex]

don't say that

[paper spindle]

But meteor?

[split mortar]

Against rules to suicide joke

[paper spindle]

If the meteor only came down in HM theb when did the whole Astrum aureus incident occur, on your way back from hell?

[split mortar]

Occurs between star fall and aureus fight

So

Minutes is how long

[paper spindle]

?

[split mortar]

You can get the summon for aureus really quick

In like a few mins or hours ingams

[mighty zenith]

so it really depends on how you progress lol

[paper spindle]

-_- I'm hating myself for my inability to read English

[mighty zenith]

though tbh it wouldn't take long for draedon to send aureus there anyway, he had the robot already built

[pliant ruin]

the meteor fell in hardmode

[lethal mirage]

so like

is the astral REALLY good at corrupting roboto

or is time just funky

i know its good at it

but that good?

[split mortar]

The astral can infect anything that isnt sapient and alive

Draedon counts as not alive

Or well maybe its just sapient and being a robot excludes you from counting as that

[lethal mirage]

ya

but is it really fast or smth

or do we not know

[split mortar]

Its as fast as it infects anything else

[lethal mirage]

which is?

like a metric cube of robot

how fast to get infect

i need astral irl to experiment with

[paper spindle]

Here you go launches dying star at your location

[magic epoch]

if I die can the astral infec my corpse

[lethal mirage]

yipepe

thanks

[lethal mirage]

also true

i think it infects things that arent alive

[split mortar]

Yes

[lethal mirage]

oh

[magic epoch]

wholesome?

[split mortar]

All the enemies in the astral were alive

[lethal mirage]

ig thats why the virus imagery is so popular in the astral

[split mortar]

Its sapient things that are immune

[lethal mirage]

cause viruses are neither living nor sapient

[paper spindle]

Hmm so what about Deus. Was it always dead?

[split mortar]

Deus is alive

Never dies ingame

The astral cant infect sapient things which are human level intelligent

Wild animals are only sentient

Roughly idk the specifics

Corpses dont count as sapient afaik so they can be infected

[paper spindle]

Good. Have a dying star as well

[split mortar]

Stars are just clumps of mana they were never alive in the first place afaik

[pliant ruin]

Deus is alive, you free it from astral after beating it up

It just don't look like it ingame rn

[young socket]

hmph

[pliant ruin]

but, canonically, you don't kill it

[young socket]

dont you dare talk to my subjects like that

[paper spindle]

Hmm what I mean was I'm dropping an astral meteor at your location. Stand ready for my infection Worm

[young socket]

ill have you know their feelings are EXTREMELY hurt when you imply they arent alive

[split mortar]

Ok cool they die to space noodles idc

[young socket]

U DIE TO A SPACE NOODLE

💥

[paper spindle]

Space noodles are weak to them when they evolve

[split mortar]

You mean become moldy food?

[paper spindle]

Now you've got me thinking. Do noodles actually go moldy

Because as far as I know they just dry out

But forget about that

[split mortar]

Just use google

[paper spindle]

Back to the question we all promptly ignored

[split mortar]

Look up moldy noodles

[paper spindle]

More tracking bullets than chlorophyte?

[split mortar]

Nano bullets track kinda

[magic epoch]

in lore discussion?

[paper spindle]

Haven't done a ranger playthrough yet

[split mortar]

Drysads tear ig counts tho thats just the shards

[magic epoch]

help questions? in MY lore discussion!!!!

[split mortar]

And not the main bullet

[paper spindle]

My bad

[split mortar]

Scal bullet real

Will be real eventually

[paper spindle]

Bullets of annihilation

[split mortar]

These will prob exist later idk if sso tho

[magic epoch]

scal bullets...

[split mortar]

Bullets secrion
Auric arrows

[dusk laurel]

im exploding you

[split mortar]

Wha why

[dusk laurel]

vibes

[split mortar]

[paper spindle]

Yay. Explode me too

[split mortar]

No you get stabbed

[lethal mirage]

kaboom!!

[paper spindle]

Noooo

[lethal mirage]

aww

[lethal mirage]

what about me :3

[split mortar]

You enter france

[lethal mirage]

:(

too far

[paper spindle]

You've gone too far now. I cast manual breathing

[split mortar]

FUCK YOU

Manual blinking

[paper spindle]

Damn you

I cast Feeling of tongue

[split mortar]

Become annoyingly aware of everything you are touching and feeling

[paper spindle]

Hmm you're good

[magic epoch]

evil fucker

[lethal mirage]

my skin crawls

[magic epoch]

i wear a mask in public and now ifeel the fabric constantly touching my mouth. itchy

[split mortar]

Lmao

[lethal mirage]

coidv

[paper spindle]

Y'all are catching strays

[split mortar]

I becoming annoyingly itchy

[paper spindle]

I as well

[split mortar]

I hurt everyone in this chat with that one lmao

[paper spindle]

I cast posture correction

[split mortar]

Im laying down

[magic epoch]

I cast heterosexualize

[paper spindle]

Damn. I'm hunched over rn

[magic epoch]

You're now straight

[lethal mirage]

worst ending

[split mortar]

I only have bad posture when sitting otherwise my posture is fine

[split mortar]

My bf would disagree

[paper spindle]

I cast feel of clothes

[split mortar]

I already casted a stringer version earlier

[split mortar]

This

[magic epoch]

I cast... No that would be mean nevermind

[paper spindle]

I concede I have no other aware inconveniences

[split mortar]

I cast itch inside your body that wont go away

[paper spindle]

Striking a man when he's down. DO YOU HAVE NO HONOUR?

[split mortar]

:3

[lethal mirage]

dysphoria

[split mortar]

Pretty sure i aint trans

[lethal mirage]

yea

but im jus saying

dw

[magic epoch]

no that's just the dysphoria spell

at least, same physical effects

[lethal mirage]

dysphoria feel like itch that wont go away

except its in my brain

and it hates me

[paper spindle]

So I googled it and Moldy noodles are a thing

[lethal mirage]

it is a grain

[paper spindle]

How have I never had anything like this happen

[split mortar]

Prob takes a while to mold

[pliant ruin]

Everything that is organic can rot

[paper spindle]

Yeah probably

[young socket]

low moisture content makes it hard for mould to start producing

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-robert-downey-jr-shrug-the-rot-the-rot-consumes-gif-4934048971431677874

[magic epoch]

the rot is an obstacle in rain world

[lethal mirage]

the rot consumes

i am rot proof

[paper spindle]

Are you sure?

[lethal mirage]

yess

i have brainrot tho

thats different

[paper spindle]

I had a pretty interesting day today

[lethal mirage]

what

[magic epoch]

they had a pretty interesting day today

[lethal mirage]

awesome

[paper spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[split mortar]

Embed fail laugh at this user

[paper spindle]

-_-

[split mortar]

Anyways with my cv headcanon i also believe it leads to noxus eating you as the proper “afterlife” souls experience after enough time

[pliant ruin]

threw a trashbag

to space