lore-discussion

[wheat fjord]

imagine if a queen bee acsended. god of bees

gg

[clear girder]

Maybe there is something like dragon of helium or something

[pliant ruin]

i imagine silva since shes also a goddess

[latent bolt]

man we need an elemental tier list

[pliant ruin]

we should get sapient bugs in cal just so we nca get a cvool looking bug god

[wheat fjord]

dragon of water when he meets god of h20:

[spare pier]

Cheese

There's a flying rock moth Goddess

[pliant ruin]

in hindsight we probably dont need sapient bugs to get a cool looking bug god.

[spare pier]

I think we can get a person that just

Became a bug

[pliant ruin]

with that said i think sapient bugs are cool

i'm adding them to my cal fanfiction

[spare pier]

Sapient bugs to me are eh but that's more because

[clear girder]

I wonder why Yharim hasn't killed torch god

[spare pier]

Ants are already fucking terrifying

Like

Sapient bugs aren't interesting to me because, truth is

[wheat fjord]

it would be interesting if there was a bug god, killed the Dragon of the wild (living stuff that isnt plants n shi if that exists)

[pliant ruin]

Because torch god is not explicitly a god as in Auric God

we dont know wtf it is

[spare pier]

Either they are just humans with really weird customs

Or they are just ants that can talk

It's hard to make a cool sentient bug society because of how organized a lot of bugs already are

90% of the time you just end up with that bug society but they can talk now

[pliant ruin]

Sapient Centipedes that have are incredibly xenophobic because centipedes are scared of everything
also they're the most productive mfers alive because centipedes have like no chill and are constantly doing things

centipedes are so funny to me they're genuinely just scared of everything

you lightly blow at them and they start goijng AHHASHFASLGM,ASGA AHHAHHHAHAH AHH

[spare pier]

I mean, yeah but that kinda just goes into "human with weird customs"

It's a bit unfair to say that because, ok yeah

That's basically just every fictional society ever

But idk, I think a lot of bugs are just better off being not sapient

I unironically think every bug society is more interesting if they aren't as smart as humans

[pliant ruin]

I like buge

[spare pier]

Ants can wage war

Like

[wheat fjord]

i hope at some point we get some desert mini bosses to fill the food chain a lil. it feels like everything is food and the scourege is the only predator

[spare pier]

...Sandstorm?

Sand Sharks?

[pliant ruin]

i mean yeah desert scourge is an apex predator

[clear girder]

Well most of the life has fled away from the desert

[spare pier]

Tomb Crawlers?

[pliant ruin]

i can name like

[spare pier]

The scorpions?

[pliant ruin]

actually basically all of the desert enemies give off more predator energy than prey

which i mean makes sense

[wheat fjord]

tru

[pliant ruin]

deserts are low on plant life

[spare pier]

The Desert is by far the most fleshed out biome in Vanilla

Which is part of why we're barely touching it in SSO

[pliant ruin]

nuh uh

glowing moss biome

so much unique content its such a fleshed out biome wow

[spare pier]

So true!

Tbf Glowing Moss isn't a biome

[wheat fjord]

it would be cool to have some non violent animals spawn underground too. only in the full of life areas tho like the jungle.

[spare pier]

It's just something you find every now and then and go

"Pretty"

[pliant ruin]

ya

[spare pier]

And that's perfectly reasonable

[wheat fjord]

understandable everythings a predator in the desert cus what else they gonna eat

[pliant ruin]

i think it could use a few critters tho...

little moss flies :3

[latent bolt]

moss piglets

[spare pier]

Byeah to me this is mostly why I think bug societies are more interesting being non-sapient

[latent bolt]

not to be confused with moss piggy

[spare pier]

The fact that they are more organized than OUR OWN SOCIETY speaks a lot

[pliant ruin]

surface desert could use a medium sized critter tpye thing imo...

not for cal specifically just in general tbh

[clear girder]

Antlion

[pliant ruin]

That's a enemy

i said critter

[clear girder]

Ah

[spare pier]

Idk Surface Desert has enough stuff

[pliant ruin]

i think it'd just be nice ambience

i generan l ithink

[spare pier]

Guaranteeing an oasis and that's it

[pliant ruin]

terraria could use more just

neutrla/passive mobs for ambience

we got some with the ocean in 1.4

but other than that yea

[spare pier]

Ocean is fucking done to me

Infact it's the one biome I think that should just

Have content removed from it

[pliant ruin]

Ocean is the wackiest biome in terraria

[spare pier]

In Cal I mean

[pliant ruin]

It dosen't know if it wants to be a minibiome or a full on biome

inh both terraria and cal tbh 😭

[spare pier]

In Terraria it's more well defined

Only having two proper enemies

[pliant ruin]

yeah its a bigger issue in cal but terrari isn't absent from it

like

the underground ocean they added....

[spare pier]

And a shit ton of critters

[pliant ruin]

which isnt actually a underground ocean

its just

a cave

with nothing on it

which

isnt even guaranteed to generate..

[spare pier]

Ok I need to sleep now

[manic coral]

hi reb i see you're sleeping well

[spare pier]

Cya

[manic coral]

[pliant ruin]

goobnight

good job cei

[manic coral]

LMAO

[spare pier]

It's Cheese's fault

[manic coral]

sure

[pliant ruin]

i'm just a girl

[spare pier]

Ok bye for realsies now

[manic coral]

i agree

they'd add a lot imo

critters are nice to have

even outside of cal biomes

[sinful adder]

Have any of you played or watched Hylics

It's pretty neat

It also has lore

And the lore is cool

[pulsar ocean]

why cant yharim install cheat sheet and beat xeroc

[clear girder]

Wait if each auric soul controls a part of the world doesn't that mean that if Yharim kerps killing more gods the world loses balance or smth?

[sinful adder]

no

the auric souls don't need to be there for the things to function

I mean, I think

[mighty zenith]

domains give gods the ability to control things related to it im pretty sure

theyre not parts of the world itself, thats what elementals are

[humble fog]

yea it’s so cool to find out their bait power and which potions they make

[cosmic zenith]

Human

And Slime God is deliberately restraining itself

So it's weaker than it should be

[cloud ibex]

I do wonder what Slime God’s actual theoretical peak is

I joke about Goozma being SG if they locked the fuck in but I wonder if they could ever actually get to that level

[real silo]

I doubt it

[split mortar]

I doubt it since shakidou is weaker then scal

Id see like
Plantera level?

At absolute max

[real silo]

thas kinda low

[cloud ibex]

The thing is like

[split mortar]

Its a pre hardmode boss

[real silo]

you're a pre hardmode boss

[cosmic zenith]

I could see Slime God reaching the top of Hardmode by exploiting the absorption powers of slimes

Perhaps higher

[cloud ibex]

I’m pretty sure it’s been mentioned that the thing differentiating Xeroc from other gods isn’t just that they got the soul of the most powerful dragon, they’ve also been training to get stronger ever since their ascension to a degree nobody else ever really did

[cosmic zenith]

It's definitely one of the most versatile Gods power-wise

[cosmic zenith]

Correct

[real silo]

Consider that slimer managed to move up from pre waffle to pre mech just by absorbing hallowee

[cosmic zenith]

Dude's on the grind

[cloud ibex]

So I think SG, though they got a very weak soul, are also actively holding themselves back and presumably also aren’t working to get stronger constantly

[real silo]

What if it absorbed astral too

And acid sea

[cloud ibex]

So I think in theory if they worked as hard as Xeroc did, even from their comparatively low starting point I think they could get pretty damn high in the grand scheme of things

[real silo]

And this was without trying to get stronger too

it kinda just oopsie'd into becoming a hm boss

[split mortar]

Tbf its more so
Absorbed by queen slime

Also like
Can slimegod even control astral slimes

[dusk laurel]

postPolter slimes exist

[split mortar]

Cause theyre already controlled by the astral

[split mortar]

Those are???

[real silo]

imagine if it managed to tame a hallow paladin and reform its two evil paladins

[dusk laurel]

gunk zero

[split mortar]

Honestly
I think queen slime is stronger cause the hardmode god essence is denser then pre hardmode god essence biomes
So a evil paladin would also rival queen slime imo

But like
Could slimegod even control all 3 of them at okce

Once

[real silo]

well maybe not at first

But with training probably

[dusk laurel]

why couldnt he

[split mortar]

Lost control of 1 of them

[dusk laurel]

thats because he just made it

and it was stronger than him

[split mortar]

Even the pre hardmode paladins are im pretty sure

[dusk laurel]

still

unlike qs hes had time to get used to those

[split mortar]

The denser god essence also probably fights for control more aswell

[dusk laurel]

is this even a real thing

hallow being denser than the evils

[split mortar]

I think the prehardmode evils are less dense then the hardmode evils

[dusk laurel]

ah

[quiet idol]

I was always curious in lore
What exactly is the Sepulcher meant to be

[cloud ibex]

Construct of numerous corpses

[quiet idol]

Oh

[cloud ibex]

An irl sepulcher is a stone room or monument someone is buried inside so the name is pretty literal

Minus the stone part

[robust osprey]

I mean it's brim-stone

close enough

[cloud ibex]

True

[real silo]

stone bone in the danger zone

[quiet idol]

Kinda got confused because the bestiary says one thing about the one Calamitas summons but the Metastasis summon weapon to spawn a Sepulcher says another thing in the tooltip

[pastel bay]

Isn't the tool tip on metastasis a minor headache as it caused a lot of people to assume DoG would become sepulcher

[quiet idol]

Yeah it is

The tooltip is
"A contemplated possible future of the cosmic serpent,
A gruesome warning for those blinded by the hunger for power."

So always got confused about the Sepulcher

[robust osprey]

I never took it literally

[split mortar]

Thats just saying dog would

Get killed
In fancy words

[robust osprey]

like ain't no way Scal is domesticating DoG

[split mortar]

Im pretty sure

[robust osprey]

yeah I always assumed DoG will end on a similar state

not literally become sepulcher

[quiet idol]

Oh

[limpid saddle]

I think Calamitas just made it to fuck with DoG

[split mortar]

Yeah its that isnt the case

[limpid saddle]

It'd be like if someone robbed a bunch of graves to perfectly recreate your skeleton & covered it in half-melted flesh & then put it up outside your door

[robust osprey]

beacuse fuck dog

[limpid saddle]

It's purely to inflict psychological damage

[quiet idol]

Makes sense ngl

[mighty zenith]

if DoG keeps being cocky and awful hes gonna fucking die

thats it rly

[robust osprey]

I will eat dog

[pastel bay]

Is calamitas more like Piccolo or more like Vegeta

I'm leaning more towards vegeta

[split mortar]

In what

Personality?

[pastel bay]

Nah like, character arc

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[pastel bay]

Like how she goes from enemy to ally

[split mortar]

I have limited knowledge on dragonball so i dont really have much to say on this topic

[cloud ibex]

cei could answer this

maybe reb too iunno if she's a dragon baller or not

[limpid saddle]

In character arc? I wouldnt really say she's comparable to either

She doesnt really directly oppose the protaganist on a long enough basis for a character transformation like theirs

[robust osprey]

piccolo became good after a higher menace than him came to eart (raditz), so goku an piccolo became allies

[limpid saddle]

& she was always at least somewhat morally opposed to her villanous acts

[robust osprey]

and then picclo trained gohan for an even higher menace

vegetta is almost the same but with frieza

[limpid saddle]

Is Permafrost Piccolo-coded

[robust osprey]

and got bitches

[pulsar ocean]

Can torch god beat xeroc

[pastel bay]

Depends on whether or not xeroc gets a healthbar

[cosmic zenith]

(She's neither)

[mighty zenith]

if anything she's more like dbs broly

[late veldt]

she goes from panic attack to tenant

[cloud ibex]

does she work for mister krabs

[pastel bay]

Oh true

[mighty zenith]

no thats z broly

[cloud ibex]

of course

[mighty zenith]

z broly works the nightshift

[mighty zenith]

ok but theres more connections than i realized

even paragus kinda looks like permafrost
hes just much more of a nutjob

[ruby heart]

the mammoth dragon (frost dragon) in my mod (not real calamity content) is sort of that

[tall delta]

bloody mammoth

[latent bolt]

[outer wyvern]

ok, interesting question. We know Yharim was almost forced into being a god, and when he refused, he was sent to be executed. the question I pose is: how many of the other gods were forced into Yharim's situation? And how many fell to the pressure that Yharim was put under? I don't think its unreasonable to assume that Yharim wasn't the only one, and I don't think killing a dragon automatically makes you consume their Auric soul, if the Terrarian killing Yharon is any sort of indication, but I could be wrong on that.

[cloud ibex]

You aren’t wrong

You need to do a very specific ritual to be able to absorb an auric soul

[robust osprey]

ritual that not many people know

[magic epoch]

if you eat an auric soul (not absorb) you become a dragonborn

Or something

[pastel bay]

I pictured Yharim as Frieza and now I can only hear the lore whispers in Friezas voice. help.

[robust osprey]

oh no

lihzahrd = monkey!

[real silo]

Who's the krillin that yharim will blow up

[robust osprey]

random god probably

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-rain-world-downpour-echo-distant-towers-upon-cracked-earth-i-placed-my-faith-into-the-hands-of-random-gods-gif-2672901884736610436

[random mulch]

what is the most useless lore fact

[frozen zodiac]

idk probably a bestiary entry for a random critter or enemy

[robust osprey]

wulfrum are made by some weird metal and energy

I know, crazy, right?

[split mortar]

That mana is stored in the bones idk

[random mulch]

misinformational?

[tepid timber]

They love bees

[eager bluff]

bone mana

[clear girder]

What happened to Yharims parents

[split mortar]

We dunno for sure

Likely killed by yharim

[clear girder]

why tho

did they worship gods or smth?

[young socket]

we dont know and they clearly dont matter

[young socket]

wat

no

[split mortar]

I believe thats likely the case

Hence why i think they would have been killed by yharminarm

[clear girder]

now i'm starting to wonder about cals parents

Did they die when Azafure got destroyed

or some other cause?

[split mortar]

She straight up lived with only her brothers before azafure went kaboom iirc

If they were still alive they likely died to azafure burning

[clear girder]

how did her brothers survive when Azafure went kaboom

[split mortar]

They didnt

[clear girder]

Cataclysm and catastrophe aren't his brothers?

[split mortar]

They are her brothers

Just

Revived by necromancy

Cause they died

[clear girder]

ah

[robust osprey]

yeah theyre pretty much zombies

that only think about protecting lil sis

[limpid saddle]

Ah yes, the very alive man without legs who has a skull that is on fire

Very typical of a living human

[split mortar]

Moonlord would prob survive

-# Then again thats fucking
-# Moonlord

[dusk laurel]

moon lord

isnt human

[clear girder]

How did the people who found Yharons egg got into the aerie?

how do people even get there anyway

[dusk laurel]

we dont know

[split mortar]

How edible is each of the magic typs

[tropic oak]

lore discussion

[split mortar]

Yes

[fading fiber]

jst a quick qstn in the lore items that bosses drops (press left shift) who is the one speaking there? who is the I

[dusk laurel]

Yharim

[limpid saddle]

That's Yharim

He's brain-blasting his thoughts about the thing you just murdered into your brain

[fading fiber]

hmm who is he? a god?

[random mulch]

aka the will-eventually-be-the-final-boss-in-a-couple-years

[fading fiber]

also related to uh draedon?

[limpid saddle]

Uh no, he's the guy who lead The Crusades

The Crusades to kill every God

with Yharon

[fading fiber]

also who is the protagonist in this

[limpid saddle]

the last auric dragon

[limpid saddle]

You

[pastel bay]

Us

[limpid saddle]

The Terrarian

[fading fiber]

draedon or yharim or us

[random mulch]

the player is the protagonist but who the player actually is is up to you

[pastel bay]

Terraria is a self insert game

[fading fiber]

who do we side with yharim or dradon?

[limpid saddle]

They arent really against each other

[random mulch]

neither

[limpid saddle]

& we're not really meant to side with either

[pastel bay]

Spoilers ahead I suppose

[random mulch]

yharim is planned to be the final boss (though he hasnt been added yet)

[limpid saddle]

Given Draedon, you know, sure he helps us out but he only cares about science

& we're gonna murder Yharim

[fading fiber]

yea idc i jst wanna know about story

[fading fiber]

isnt he like the one who made mechs exomechs

[pastel bay]

We're fascinating enough for him to trust us with research

Yeah

[limpid saddle]

Yes, & he wanted to test them by making the strongest willing being fight them

[random mulch]

and the regular mechs, and astrum aureus, and the plaguebringer goliath

[limpid saddle]

Aka

Us

[fading fiber]

whihc is us?

oh

[split mortar]

The terrarian is basically
Your OC

[fading fiber]

whore the crusades

[pastel bay]

He really gave us the power to make the exo weapons because he wanted to see what we would do

[limpid saddle]

The Crusades was an event not a person

[split mortar]

Its a century long war yharim did that killed half the planet that the entire goal was to genocide all gods

[pastel bay]

And we went on to piss him off by naming the resulting material "miracle matter" upon being the first being to ever create it

[limpid saddle]

It lasted 100 years & Yharim's army killed like 300 million people

& a few thousand Gods

[pastel bay]

Low end estimates

[fading fiber]

do we fight any gods or is it just creations of draedon,yharim etc

[pastel bay]

Hey do we count killing souls as a second death or just a kill confirm

[limpid saddle]

Slime God & Providence

[split mortar]

300 million was the direct casualties

[limpid saddle]

Those are gods & we murder them

[random mulch]

and sorta ravager

[limpid saddle]

yeah 'yharims army killed like 300 million people'

killed implies direct murder

[split mortar]

Slimegod
providence the profaned goddess
Ravager (half)

[limpid saddle]

Ravager is the failed ressurected corpse of The God Of Sacrifices just so you know

[fading fiber]

wb the vanilla bosses ml, df, eol ... do they have a role here

[pastel bay]

Yes very much so

[fading fiber]

whos that

[pastel bay]

Moon lord is a can of worms

[limpid saddle]

Some cultists got desperate & tried to sacrifice themselves to bring him back & it made a very angry feral beast

[pastel bay]

I'll let the others handle him

[split mortar]

Moonlord nearly ended the world 8 centuries ago

[limpid saddle]

the boss Ravager

[fading fiber]

no i meant the god of sacrifes

[limpid saddle]

from the calamity mod

[limpid saddle]

He was a God, he was seemingly an ok-ish guy, we dont know muxh beyond that

Yharim murdered him

[pastel bay]

Duke is a descendant of the auric dragons of old, but no auric soul or the sort

[limpid saddle]

& then he got ressurected

[fading fiber]

by?

[pastel bay]

"Ok-ish" I mean. Depends on what you were sacrificing I guess

[limpid saddle]

Cultists

Of his religion

[pastel bay]

They got sacrificed

To him

[limpid saddle]

who sacrificed themselves

[dusk laurel]

his followers basically

idk about a religion

[pastel bay]

Was revived to try to kill Yharim.

Didn't work.

[fading fiber]

is yharim still alive

[limpid saddle]

But because like 23 dudes dont make an omelete (auric soul) it went bad & now we have the flesh obelisk

[dusk laurel]

yes

[limpid saddle]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

he is the final boss

[pastel bay]

He's talking to you

[limpid saddle]

He's sitting up in a place called the Dragon Aerie

[fading fiber]

aint that the exomechs

[limpid saddle]

Nope

[split mortar]

They talk to you in the boss lore whispers

[limpid saddle]

Calamity is unfinished

[fading fiber]

ohh ic

[pastel bay]

Which is wild given how much there is already

[limpid saddle]

& it will be unfinished for at least 20 fargo years

[split mortar]

Exos or scal
Theyre tied currently

[fading fiber]

oh right btw whos scal

calamitas

[pastel bay]

Hell remember when the music had to be split from the base mod

[limpid saddle]

Yup

Supreme Calamitas

[covert blaze]

Supreme Calamitas

[pastel bay]

Supreme Clamitas

[covert blaze]

clam

[limpid saddle]

She's Supreme cause uh. We needed a way to distinguish her name from Calamitas Clone

[fading fiber]

yea whos she

[limpid saddle]

clamity reference⁉️

[fading fiber]

thats a clone of her?

[pastel bay]

Moreso the genuine fear I felt for a few moments upon seeing those words right after desert scourge during my first infernum run

[limpid saddle]

20 something girl who got brimstone magic at age 10, accidentally destroyed Azafure (Brimstone Crags) while fighting Brimstone Elemental, got kidnapped & enlisted into Yharim's army, did a WHOOOOLE bunch of war-crimes, got depressed, left the army, & fights us because she thinks we're gonna be Yharim 2.0

[limpid saddle]

guh

whar

[fading fiber]

also whats up with the abyss like isnt primordial wyrm also the last bos? (curently

[limpid saddle]

Nope it's like a superboss

[pastel bay]

I dunno during my first ever run of infernum the listing for the giant clam was changed to read "Supreme Clamitas"

[random mulch]

primordial wyrm is more like a deterrent than an actual boss

[pastel bay]

It guards a thing very poorly

[fading fiber]

oh also is yharim also talking to us when use the boss rush thing

[pastel bay]

No

That's Xeroc

[limpid saddle]

Thats Xeroc

[fading fiber]

huh

[limpid saddle]

That 'Traitor Almighty'

That God Of Primordial Light

[covert blaze]

Light God

[pastel bay]

Currently the strongest thing we know of in the game technically

[fading fiber]

ooh

stronger than yharim?

[limpid saddle]

Guy who ate Zeratro's Auric Soul, Zeratros was the Dragon King

[pastel bay]

he doesn't count he's not there yet

[covert blaze]

Yeah

[random mulch]

much stronger

basically the strongest character we know of

[limpid saddle]

His ascension kick-started the dragon hunts & the reason why there were so many gods for Yharim to kill

[covert blaze]

Basically coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

[fading fiber]

also is the nameless dude related to all this or jst seperate?

[limpid saddle]

Wrath Of The Gods is not canon

[fading fiber]

deity

oh

[random mulch]

wrath of the gods is not canon

[limpid saddle]

Nameless Diety is an old-lore interpretation of Xeroc

[covert blaze]

WotG is an add-on

[random mulch]

no calamity addon is

[covert blaze]

a very cool one but not canon

[pastel bay]

Well.
The music is.

[fading fiber]

any other refernce or stuff of xeroc in the game?

base

[pastel bay]

The xerock

[limpid saddle]

The Rock, which you get from beating Boss Rush

Uhhh

pssh

[random mulch]

the rock is a rock from the dragon's aerie that xeroc just kinda has

[limpid saddle]

a couple lore items Yharim talks about him

[pastel bay]

Thats about it I think. Outside of lore items at game stage shifts

[random mulch]

explains a little bit of xeroc's motivation

[fading fiber]

motivation?

[limpid saddle]

Any other queries?

[limpid saddle]

You know his reason for doing things

Character motivation

[fading fiber]

what he do

[limpid saddle]

Guard the world from shit like Moon Lord

[random mulch]

absorb the soul of the king of the dragons to become the first god

[pastel bay]

There's a lot we don't know, because a lot is biased.
Yharim is potentially (probably) unreliable about some things
Draedon is more trustworthy since he doesn't need to lie, he's his own party, but also dismissive of us for not being as smart

[limpid saddle]

dont worry oreo we already covered that part

[fading fiber]

whos the king of the dragons also are there dragons in this game

[limpid saddle]

Theres Yharon

[dusk laurel]

yharon...

[pastel bay]

There's one

[limpid saddle]

hes the last dragon

[dusk laurel]

and the fishrons

[limpid saddle]

you know

[pastel bay]

And the folly

[limpid saddle]

Dragon of Rebirth

[random mulch]

fishrons arent really dragons

[dusk laurel]

and the follies

dragon offshoots are still dragons

[limpid saddle]

half-dragons

[pastel bay]

They're related enough to make Yharim nerd out

[limpid saddle]

if you want to be mean

[random mulch]

i meant like yharon

auric dragons

[dusk laurel]

ah

then yeah

[pastel bay]

Silvia is alive technically right

[dusk laurel]

yharon is alone

[random mulch]

barely but yeah

[limpid saddle]

@fading fiber so you know, all the Auric Dragons are dead because people wanted to be Gods & the only way to do that was eat an Auric Dragon's soul

[pastel bay]

Right, now I can laugh at Yharims attempt to dispose of her

[limpid saddle]

so selfish asshole-ism strikes again

[fading fiber]

is yharon a auric dragon

[limpid saddle]

yes

[pastel bay]

What kind of a dumbass puts a plant in an area with more than enough water to sustain itself

[limpid saddle]

We arent a God when we kill him

[fading fiber]

we can eat his soul to become god?

oh

[pastel bay]

I know why shush let me mock him

[limpid saddle]

His soul runs away to the aerie

& we'd need to a ritual we dont know on his egg

& the only person that could teach us that ritual

[pastel bay]

Which we don't have

[limpid saddle]

Would rather literally kill himself than tell us

[fading fiber]

whos dat

[limpid saddle]

Yharim

[fading fiber]

oh

is yharim a god

[limpid saddle]

Because he hates Gods, & Yharon's his best friend

[pastel bay]

Well
Xeroc. But he's not cooperating right now

[limpid saddle]

No he's just a dude

a very strong dude

[fading fiber]

like us?

[split mortar]

Hell nah

[pastel bay]

Yharim is the God slayer

[limpid saddle]

Sure yeah

[pastel bay]

Like doom slayer instead of doom it's god

[limpid saddle]

He's also like 8ft

[fading fiber]

hes stronger than draedon?

[limpid saddle]

yeah

[pastel bay]

Physically yes draedon is likely frail

[limpid saddle]

Draedon doesnt really fight his machines do

He's just a smart robot

[pastel bay]

In terms of intellect draedon is leagues above anyone mortal

[fading fiber]

whats draedons motive? jst science and curiosity? also why did he make the machines

[pastel bay]

With zero morals

Yeah

He does shit just to do shit

[limpid saddle]

Yup, he makes things cause he thinks making things is cool

[split mortar]

Draedon is an ai controlling robot bodies

[fading fiber]

if he is an an robot who made him?

[limpid saddle]

& because he joined The Crusades early, he spent like 100 years helping Yharim build weapons, so he keeps building weapons

[split mortar]

To advance science is the one preset goal of draedons code
So its all they can want to do
No morality holds back their goals

[limpid saddle]

Because he wants to make The Best Weapon™️

[dusk laurel]

no

[fading fiber]

they?

[limpid saddle]

Some old dude we dont really know

[dusk laurel]

he wants to advance science to its limit

weapons are mainly for protection or services

[limpid saddle]

yeah & his current objective on that wider front is to make a baller ass murder weapon

[dusk laurel]

he already made that weapon

[limpid saddle]

Basically all of his break throughs have been dedicated to making something that can kill good

[fading fiber]

he wroks with yharim right? who he need protection from

[dusk laurel]

no

[split mortar]

Draedon is a robot so like, no gender
-# they can also work for people with gender?

[split mortar]

Draedon used to

[dusk laurel]

yharim kicked him out

[random mulch]

yharim got kinda pissed at draedon and now they dont really talk

[split mortar]

Yharim kicked draedon out cause of the nuclear bees

[fading fiber]

lmao dradons a robot right do he got feelings?

[limpid saddle]

Because Draedon made the Plague & Plaguebringer Goliath

[limpid saddle]

Kinda

Ok wait

Stop asking questions now

Go read the Draedon chat logs

[split mortar]

The draetalk

[limpid saddle]

If you go to the communicator after beating Exo Mechs you can talk with him about lore stuff

[outer wyvern]

[dusk laurel]

venom user

[limpid saddle]

He gives you all the lore

[dusk laurel]

#lore-discussion message

read this document

[fading fiber]

right ok im actually currently at post golem ig ill just read the lore items stuff and etc

[limpid saddle]

ah hell nah go finish the mod bro

[fading fiber]

yea im a sucker for lore

[limpid saddle]

All of this hits way harder when you assemble it yourself

[fading fiber]

ight

[limpid saddle]

Come back when you know stuff & have questions about the stuff you know

[livid bobcat]

Running a calamity dnd game set during yharims Crusade, as he's falling from grace, starting next week.

Any advice regarding how to characterize yharim? The players are starting on his side, as peasants or soldiers. I was thinking some mix between azure and 9 from the show lego monkie kid personality wise, but I'm looking for ideas.

[sleek halo]

Yharim seems

generally

emotional and extravagant

he’s very charismatic

[livid bobcat]

I get the idea that he would have some kind of a charismatic facade that drops when things get personal

[sleek halo]

yeah

he quite literally decides to kill

his oldest ally

brcause they left

(More eof the emotional aspect)

[livid bobcat]

Classic vaderian leadership

[manic coral]

Yharim is good at spinning thing sin ways to make him look, even if not favorable, better than the opposition

[snow mountain]

he has the rizz as the kids say

[sleek halo]

(I imagine he was absolutely fucking furious at Permafrost’s “betrayal”)

[livid bobcat]

Kinda like sentinel prime from transformers one

[manic coral]

And suffers from main character syndrome

[sleek halo]

(and him sending cal to kill him was done out of a moment of rage, not rational thought)

[sleek halo]

Though I kinda imagine he could not

[split mortar]

Yharim on his way to cause a war that directly kills 300 million

[sleek halo]

bring himself to personally

kill Permafrost

[manic coral]

something else to note about Yharim is him thinking he's the good guy isn't just

talk

he does treat those unde rhim and who are loyal pretty god damn well

[split mortar]

Yeah

Win either moral battle or economic one
He payed his soldiers pretty well iirc

[sleek halo]

this is headcanon tho

idk how much truth it holds

[manic coral]

Yeha Yharim is smart, he tries to win his abttle without fighting them if he can

I mean, imagine for a sec you're a solider in an opposing army

You get fed basic rations

You stand out in the ehat and cold constantly

You slepe on the ground or shitty bunks half of the time

[livid bobcat]

One idea I kinda had for him is going at his angle of the "natural world"

Given how he saw the dragons comparatively to what came after

[manic coral]

and you KNOW that Yharim's forces have tools and wepaonry WAY beyond what you have

[cloud ibex]

i always saw it as pretty silly when villains treat their underlings badly

[manic coral]

one of HIS footsoldiers are worth five of you combat wise

[cloud ibex]

like my brother in christ you do want these people to stay loyal, right

[sleek halo]

not to mention, Yharim is personally leading that army

[manic coral]

yeah

[sleek halo]

you’re going against literally the best general

of the modern age

[manic coral]

he gaine da lot of respect from that

[sleek halo]

or one of at least

[manic coral]

he's not a politician who stays in some safe city far off while the army does all the dirty work

he personally comes and fights, too

[sleek halo]

he kinda seems like

jn his early days

[manic coral]

that not only horrifies his opponents

[sleek halo]

he’d be like napoleon

[manic coral]

but gains the respect of many

[cloud ibex]

a hundred slaves fighting under their master's whip will never fight as hard as a free man fighting for someone he trusts

[manic coral]

MANY people before the Crusade came just

straight-up defected

to join in

from a purely persoanl perspective

[livid bobcat]

Being a kind of contradiction. Working with draedon and such, using stimulants and magic, but claiming to be all about natural strength and power. Framing himself as an underdog, a people person, treating animals and nature with respect publically, despite what he does behind the scenes.

[manic coral]

it was the objectively correct option for what amde you mostly likely to survive

[sleek halo]

he doesn’t use stimulants

[manic coral]

anywyas gotta go to the store

[limpid saddle]

But he does love animals

[livid bobcat]

Old lore and new lore take up my heads pace my bad

[limpid saddle]

& I mean like

maybe nature?

[livid bobcat]

Guy cares about some things

When it suits him

[limpid saddle]

but definetly animals he loves bees too much for him to hate them

[limpid saddle]

???

He has overbearing morals that guide his actions

[livid bobcat]

Turning a blind eye to what draedon does until the Goliath was too far

[limpid saddle]

he isnt some conniving sinister guy

[cloud ibex]

iunno if he really turned a blind eye to it

[livid bobcat]

Right

[limpid saddle]

Draedon didnt really do anything that wasnt make robots until the Plague

& that was completely without Yharim's knowledge

[cloud ibex]

like the two Really Bad things draedon did i can think of are clone and pbg

[limpid saddle]

& the soldiers that became the Mechs consented to it

[split mortar]

I mean
Pbg was against his morals
Orphan incinerator 9000 with a chainsaw arm wasnt (skeletron prime)

[livid bobcat]

I mean yharim must have known there was some price to progress

[limpid saddle]

Cal Clone is questionable not objectively a morally bad move

[cloud ibex]

we all know how him finding out about pbg went but i believe he mentions that he literally never knew about clone and condemns draedon for it afterwards

[livid bobcat]

I mean yharim sees himself as a fall from grace

I imagine he abides by some virtues and guidelines

[limpid saddle]

He didnt know real Calamitas was gonna come break her out & that contact with Calamitas Prime would spark Brimstone Magic & hit Calamitas Clone with the most trauma ever

[dusk laurel]

calamitas prime 💔

[limpid saddle]

His virtues are

1. No slaves
2. Bees are awesome
3. Dragons are cool
4. Gods, kill 'em all

[young socket]

im calamitas prime

[dusk laurel]

you forgot one thing

he's racist towards lihzarhds

[livid bobcat]

Wasn't aware of slaves

What was polterghast then

[limpid saddle]

i mean she is by definition the prime calamitas since there is a clone of her

[dusk laurel]

she's just

calamitas

[sleek halo]

To not force others into subjugation is a big thing

[cloud ibex]

i feel like making a clone of someone either against their consent or without them knowing is kinda fucked

[manic coral]

4.5 And anything tangentially related to that even mildly supports said gods

[livid bobcat]

Ironic given old lore
I know it's outdated tho

[young socket]

polterghast is made up by the dungeon cult and prisoners of war

[limpid saddle]

Polterghast was what happened when he fell into neglect & went blood-crazed tyrant mode

[young socket]

not slaves

[sleek halo]

This ties in basically

so much

[limpid saddle]

He stopped ruling his kingdom & Permafrost wasnt there to do it for him

[sleek halo]

Slavery, the dragons being uh fucking murdered, and pbg

[limpid saddle]

So it fell into disaaray

[livid bobcat]

Arguably what he did with polterghast had to either be insane neglect, or prisoner slavery

[limpid saddle]

Supply lines collapsed, splinter-cells of the army rose up, & then he just fucking left

[deft vessel]

Now… what is Permas favourite ice cream flavour

[limpid saddle]

Its the former he tortured his prisoners for information he didnt enslave them

[manic coral]

He doesn't like ice cream

[young socket]

vanilla

[limpid saddle]

He seems like a mint chocolate guy

[manic coral]

He's already cold all the time

[deft vessel]

Inpossible…

[livid bobcat]

Good to know

[manic coral]

So cold foods aren't his thing

[split mortar]

Just freeze it colder smh

[young socket]

so he likes soups?

[deft vessel]

Melted icecream

[dusk laurel]

it's debatable how much he even ruled before then

[young socket]

thats disgusting

[sleek halo]

I imagine permafrost loves pizza or would at the least

[dusk laurel]

i mean his main focus was the crusade

[sleek halo]

but he would have wacky things on it

[split mortar]

Raisins

[deft vessel]

Kiwi

[split mortar]

Watermelon

[deft vessel]

Guns

[split mortar]

[dusk laurel]

🗡️

[limpid saddle]

Yeah but he was on the ground, with the boys, sieging cities & executing civilians

He could direct his men very well

[dusk laurel]

his empire feels more like a confederation of loosely aligned cities to me

[limpid saddle]

& I imagine he at minimum oversaw Permafrost's wider administrations

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[manic coral]

Puts mayo on his pizza like that one friend of mine does

[spare pier]

Horrible

[split mortar]

Introduce them to pizza with uranium in it and tell them the surprise afterwards
-# this is a joke for the unaware

[manic coral]

But yeah Yharim is morally against slaves

Genocide is chill though

[limpid saddle]

Imagining Calamitas coming home from a long day of war-crimes to Permafrost in a pink apron & one of those silly baker hats presenting Calamitas the most horrid concotions known to man

[split mortar]

And manipulating children

[limpid saddle]

she still eats them but with the most forced smile imaginable because Catastrophe & Cataclysm drilled in the importance of a balanced diet to her young

[plush stone]

Are there any extensive lore videos about Calamity that cover everything?

[limpid saddle]

Nope

[plush stone]

unforfrtuante

[limpid saddle]

All existing lore videos are usually outdated

& I dont think there are any that actually comprehensively cover new lore

[foggy fern]

Well it's honestly unreasonable to expect someone to make a video on that right now since 90% of the lore isn't even in the game

[limpid saddle]

Mostly because nearly all of it is hidden away in dev statements in this very discord

[foggy fern]

Yeah and having to fish out random messages from devs is not a good way to find lore

Not to mention what little lore is in the game isn't even relevant cause it's all outdated

There's not gonna be a video on the lore until it's implemented better

[young socket]

none of it is outdated

[young socket]

and this is a horrible estimate

[plush stone]

ah okay

[foggy fern]

no it's very much outdated like the npc dialogue and stuff

[limpid saddle]

I mean not all of it

But alot kinda is yeah

[foggy fern]

having to differentiate what's actual lore and what isn't anymore is also an unreasonable ask

[limpid saddle]

Dont worry just give it 'till 2046 we'll have SSO part 2 & a comprehensive lore video by then

[plush stone]

hell yeah

[young socket]

contradictory statements within npc dialogue was removed a while ago by this point

[plush stone]

just make shit up and itll probably be good

[limpid saddle]

"just lie lmao" words to live by

[limpid saddle]

I believe she was referring to how there are going to be developed dialouge trees & how they basically wont just spout random shit about wanting to murder annoying children (looking at you amidas)

[young socket]

i know about that

that doesnt change the fact that some of the current npc dialogue still has useful information

[pliant ruin]

some of it yeah but some of it is still contradictory or outdated

like calamitas resenting permafrost

[young socket]

this was removed a fuckton time ago

[pliant ruin]

or permafrost's personality being the stereotypical grumpy antisocial wizard when actual permafrost is just a silly old man

[young socket]

he isnt grumpy in a lot of his lines

[reef wigeon]

If Yharim's propaganda is called Yhapaganda, what do you call Draedon's ego with, for example, the Exo mechs?

[dusk laurel]

dev statements are all subject to change

because they haven't been implemented yet

[pliant ruin]

Reading at cal's npc dialogue yeah she's not as out of character as i remember

[dusk laurel]

or are just ideas

[young socket]

draego

[pliant ruin]

some lines still strike as odd though

[reef wigeon]

Yes, I came back after some time away.

[pliant ruin]

"Many seasons have gone by since I first met with the Tyrant, and only now did I break free. I wish I'd been stronger..."

this one obviously

and uhh

"These undead are horrific, I can't stand to look at them. How could anyone be satisfied with such amateur work?"

[young socket]

ye i feel like a lot of people think "its not worth reading" then disregard it

[pliant ruin]

idk if cal would exactly be proud of that...

[foggy fern]

she has employed a coping mechanism super hard

[young socket]

which then leads to people flanderising them

[reef wigeon]

Oh... XD

[pliant ruin]

Permafrost's dialogue is definitely too... antisofcial though

maybe not grumpy

but he isn't a jolly whimsical fellow like his new iteration seems to be

Current perma npc dialogue dosen't have much of a personality , i think

it's kinda just

hello i am a wizard and i do ice spells

[young socket]

not sure where ur getting antisocial from

sure he doesnt speak much about other npcs but i wouldnt call that antisocial

[pliant ruin]

when you compare it with his new dialogue yeah hes def nowhere near as sociable

[limpid saddle]

I mean that one doesnt seem as freakish

[pliant ruin]

most of his lines can be described as
-hes a wizard
-he has ice magic

he dosen't have much of personality is what i mean

[limpid saddle]

Shes like one of 2 known necromancers

& it'd make sense she'd take pride in keeping her brothers pristine in a way

[languid badge]

2?

[limpid saddle]

The other being the collective that necromance'd the God Of Sacrifices into Ravager

[dusk laurel]

okay so

that wouldnt add up to 2

[languid badge]

didnt those people die so it'd be one anyway

[limpid saddle]

I said 'known' not alive

[languid badge]

ah

[magic epoch]

my name is permafrost

[limpid saddle]

i made the constructs

it was difficult, to put the pieces together

[dusk laurel]

fire

[magic epoch]

well there goes the constructs

or smth

thanks vanillin...

[dusk laurel]

[indigo glade]

My name is Calamitas.
I made the Whispering Maelstrom.
It was difficult to put the souls together.

[pastel bay]

Hey so, Noxus, wants powerful essence or whatever, probably powering itself up at the same time right.
Regardless of why or how, striking down powerful beings is what it's doing

Would the terrarian not be nearing the top of the list

[dusk laurel]

we're just a strong guy

it wants god essence to be specific

which unless you headcanon it in will not be something that we have

[limpid saddle]

Headcanon, my most loath-ed enemy

But yeah Noxus only seeks God Essence

Our soul is just a normal soul, no crazy juiced up shit to it

[split mortar]

Granted we do have some god essence on us thanks to wof, ravager, queen slime and providence
But i doubt its all that much either

[split mortar]

The dungeon fucks with souls and ceaseless void is there so maybe that could be the case

[dusk laurel]

it's more like armor or pollen for us

[spare pier]

😈

[dusk laurel]

[limpid saddle]

[spare pier]

The nefarious squid

[split mortar]

Yeah
Not much god essence

[pastel bay]

Ah cool
So we're potentially just a threat it'll have to deal with eventually instead of a target on a list

[limpid saddle]

Isnt your terrarian oc like a 'natural-born' god or something & thats why you're devil facing me

[spare pier]

Yeah, more or less

[limpid saddle]

[spare pier]

Silva gifted her a shard of her Auric Soul

[dusk laurel]

ggg user is in shambles

[limpid saddle]

billions must die

[dusk laurel]

concept of headcanons gets brought up

[split mortar]

Squid died
Silva gave them part of deific soul
Became deity of evolution
Thats what i think happened
No dragon stabbing happened

[pastel bay]

Hey on the topic the universe just shat us out didn't it.
Like not even in calamity but just terraria in general the universe just decided "behold" and we were there

[limpid saddle]

someone send the chud gif

[dusk laurel]

never say that again

[spare pier]

Though by this point it's like

[limpid saddle]

"Let there be bums" -The Universal Will

[spare pier]

Calamari isn't really a Goddess as much as just "she has an Auric Soul"

[pastel bay]

"Not enough chaos create the idiots."

[split mortar]

Thats when fight yharim though iirc

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027167403324493884/1351915085303382036/TheyMarch.gif

[limpid saddle]

i am going to eat that squid

[dusk laurel]

wait till you hear about one of her other ocs

[split mortar]

The squid is mahoraga on crack afaik

[spare pier]

She gets a full Auric Soul there but I mean, she still has the properties of God

It's why she blurs the line so much

[limpid saddle]

a fictional character cannot scale above me, real flesh man

[split mortar]

You on about ecumena and felicia?

[dusk laurel]

uhhh

[pastel bay]

I dig the idea that the one that strikes down Yharim has an aueic soul, or at least part of one

[dusk laurel]

both sure

[limpid saddle]

Ill just draw her & punch the shit out of the image

[dusk laurel]

nuh uh uh

[limpid saddle]

& then eat the paper

[dusk laurel]

im gonna headcanon that calclone gets killed by a thousand cuts

[split mortar]

The terrarian is YOU
Calamari is the terrarian in the story
Calamari is YOU

[dusk laurel]

: heist :

[limpid saddle]

Theres only one choice

[spare pier]

Better yet

[limpid saddle]

i need to jump off a building aftet eating a drawing of calamari

[spare pier]

See, she is the Goddess of Evolution

So her body is constantly trying to evolve when presented with any phenomena

[limpid saddle]

rebecca provide me a visual reference so i can destroy your wretched creation

[spare pier]

One such phenomena is, well

Auric Rejection

And she gets rejected a lot

So her body keeps trying to find a way of solving that

And after enough rejections, it comes up with something

[dusk laurel]

fearful

[spare pier]

It turns her entire soul Auric

So she becomes immune to Auric Rejection

[limpid saddle]

I dont want be a hater so bad but this is the mariest sue i've ever heard of outside of My Immortal

[split mortar]

Add calamari to the rp

[spare pier]

Nuh uh

[split mortar]

[dusk laurel]

can ebonia solo providence

[split mortar]

Fair

[spare pier]

I mean, she has the Soul of Evolution, and that's after she gets nuked by Yharim 50 times

She only develops this right at the end of the fight

Because that's how much it took her body to do it

[limpid saddle]

grggthfbghfhg

Envision me frothing at the mouth to enhance the image of the prior text

[split mortar]

Itd be a long af fight but well

Ebonia cant die
So despite their 202 metre large form as their current strongest state being only deus level
Providemce can only flee from the immortal shadow

[dusk laurel]

awesome

[spare pier]

Having an Auric Soul also allows her to attune the Ark of the Cosmos to the Aerie

Which gives her the funniest sword ever

[dusk laurel]

the aerie is pretty funny

[limpid saddle]

its taking everything in me not to say something really stupid & mean & get banned why can i just not be an asshole

[split mortar]

If the child goes apocalyptic then uh

Unless hyper bs is pulled, its basically the end of the rp

[spare pier]

[pastel bay]

Making OCs out of terraria is like half the fun

[limpid saddle]

calamari fills me with such a petulant childish hatred & i know not where forth it comes

[pastel bay]

You know what you do

Funnel that anger into your own character let spite drive you

[spare pier]

One thing I ended up changing my mind on was Calamari killing Xeroc because the more I thought about it

The more I realized it was pretty eh

[limpid saddle]

this is the most mariest that anyone has ever sue'd

[spare pier]

It's perfectly reasonable for her arc to end without that, infact I prefer my new version a lot more

[pastel bay]

Where's the fun in a god-level oc if they don't do God level things

[split mortar]

Slime god is a god

So like

God level is pre hardmode

[pastel bay]

Nuh uh it dies in hardmode

[spare pier]

Calamari literally rips a hole in the Distortion while fighting DoG to finish the fight in Terraria

[dusk laurel]

bro got kidnapped

[pastel bay]

Fffffffuck I was midway through story boarding a fight with dog where it ends like that

[spare pier]

You think I don't make cool fucking shit with her?

[limpid saddle]

My only idea is to integrate my Summoner main-ness into a man deeply fascinated with the occult & dark arts & believes summoning to be completely tied to necromancy, & that all forms of more aggressive magic have inherent counterparts

[pastel bay]

Not as the terrarian doing it, but rather parrying DoG to force it to open a rip

[limpid saddle]

he's probably really wrong but he's so deadset on the theory that he seeks out all knowledge & power as he develops to prove it

[spare pier]

Calamari does it because she uses Ark the entire journey, that's the point where her sword starts dabbling into stuff like the Big Rip

It's when she becomes strong enough to distort space with an attack

[pastel bay]

I mean what else do you parry with

[limpid saddle]

& when he finally reaches Calamitas he spends every waking moment harassing her to teach him more

[pastel bay]

Synchronized to that one drop after the calm part of the nonstop mix

[spare pier]

ANOTHER thing I like is that

Ok

Seraph Tracers

They can run on land

[split mortar]

-# harass permafrost he taught her

[spare pier]

On water

And if you stretch it a little bit

The air

[split mortar]

Eat

Eat them

[dusk laurel]

what

[spare pier]

So

The three states of matter

[limpid saddle]

he harasses both but is more fascinated by Calamitas due to her latent skill in Brimstone Magic & Necromancy

[spare pier]

.

Plasma is a state of matter

[dusk laurel]

ruh roh

[split mortar]

Runs on scals flames

[spare pier]

And the Exo Mechs use it a lot

So one thing I think is cool as shit is Calamari walking on Ares' Exo Overload Beam

[limpid saddle]

she is NOT Cooler bro

[pastel bay]

Like goku surfing the beam during tournament of power?

[spare pier]

Yeah, running ON the beam

Not inside it

[pastel bay]

Hell yeah

[mighty zenith]

still one of the coolest things ive ever watched ngl

[limpid saddle]

This is exactly my wrong type of autistic

i am sorry

i will return to my planet

[dusk laurel]

goodbye ggg user

[split mortar]

Bai

[dusk laurel]

you will be missed

[pastel bay]

I should get off my ass and finish making my terrarian

[spare pier]

The one thing I actively ignore tho, it's that the Aerie does get fucking nuked during Calamari's fight with Yharim

Because I just think that's cooler

[split mortar]

Calamari is a being who brings a lot of change world wide right?

[spare pier]

Yeah, that's part of why

Her whole thing is that she is so fixated on changing things that she's dead set on killing Xeroc

She wants change to a harmful degree

[spring helm]

Well she is the Goddess of Evolution

That makes sense

[foggy fern]

Who the fuck is calamari I thought you were all just being funny and talking about Calamitas

[spare pier]

As always

She's my OC

[foggy fern]

oh.

[spring helm]

lol

[reef wigeon]

Proceed to speak in Spanish
¿Quien c***jos es calamiri?

Oh, sorry, I activated Hispanic mode.

[magic epoch]

what

[reef wigeon]

But yeah, who the fuck is calamiri?

If it's an OC... That's fantastic!

If it's a character from the mod... What were you thinking, writers?

[spare pier]

I just said

It's my OC

[reef wigeon]

LOL

I love it!

I think I'll make my own. I was thinking of a Draedon apprentice or something.

[rocky crown]

Y'all think draedon can beat DoG?

:3

[dusk laurel]

Very easily

just mass produce the exo twins and dog is finished

[robust osprey]

if it's draedon alone very likely no, unless it has a battle body (I highly doubt it)

but just mass produce exos and easy win

[pliant ruin]

if draedon is "alone":
congratulations devourer! you have defeated a highly disposable drone that is being constantly mass produced. are you proud of yourself?

[robust osprey]

dog would be proud of himself anyways

[dusk laurel]

dog after a bug caves its skull in

[pliant ruin]

yknow what yeah he would be

[sinful adder]

A single exo mech would beat DoG.

You can't say you've killed draedon unless all his bodies and presumably servers are destroyed

[sleek halo]

I don’t think so

you need all 4 exo mechs for them to be equal to Scal

realistically DoG could handle 2-3

[late veldt]

I mean Yharon could fuck up DoG and he's like. 2 exo mechs

[sleek halo]

DoG could also fuck up Yharon

it’s not a one sided fight

[sinful adder]

I think DoG could maybe handle one exo mech

[sleek halo]

they’re pretty damn close in strength

same with Yharon & Scal

I would say Yharon could confidently handle 3

[sinful adder]

Yharon sure feels a lot stronger than DoG with the same equipment

Yeah I think Yharon could handle 3 of 4 exo mechs

Barely

[sleek halo]

I think DoG could handle 2-3

like at full speed

with armor on

he probably shatters 3-4 of them lol

[sinful adder]

I think DoG could handle Artemis and Apollo just barely but not either of the other two

[sleek halo]

thanatos is the only one

[cold chasm]

who was draedon in old lore

[sleek halo]

he could not reasonably break

with 1 ram

the other 3 should realistically be severely damaged if not completely fucked

by DoG ramming into them

[robust osprey]

I think random alien that came to earth

idk for sure tho

[late veldt]

I remember it was Yharim who seeked him out

[robust osprey]

yeah I think so

idk I consider myself a newgen I know jack shit about old lore

[late veldt]

iirc he was just still a reclusive inventor but he was even more reclusive, was on a different planet, and was sought out by Yharim rather than the other way around

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

Yharim had DoG search the cosmos for an engineer

He found Draedon in a planet populated entirely by robots

[spare pier]

It wasn't really populated