lore-discussion

[manic coral]

due to how much it's holding and how old it is at this point and how badly it's been maintained

it's like bursting a hole in a dam

[gaunt sluice]

Okay so Cei, is Cal able to eat properly before we give her a house

[late veldt]

World's shittiest piñata in every aspect

[gaunt sluice]

Or is she like starved

[manic coral]

you cna manage to last long enough because it's, again

not made to fight

it's amde to contain

[late veldt]

takes long as hell to puncture and instead of candy it has evil

[manic coral]

if it WAS made to fight, you would be so immesurably fucked

[rotund shore]

Who specifically made WoF actually, I feel like I knew this and forgot

[manic coral]

nobody in particular

it's the creation of many

[rotund shore]

Makes sense

[late veldt]

John Wall

[pliant ruin]

she's been living in isolation for most of her life atp i don't think she's starivng

or else she'd be like

dead

[rotund shore]

What random guy decided “yeahhh they should give it awesome radical laser beams”

[manic coral]

byeah i jsut iamgine it as

[pliant ruin]

needed self defense measures i suppose

[manic coral]

like a ballon or dam

one wound

and then

pop

bang

everything collapses

[gaunt sluice]

Can she hunt well tho or is she just eating berries

[tepid timber]

She has crazy ass magic

She can definitely hunt well

[gaunt sluice]

but she'd just burn it all

[pliant ruin]

calamitas is badass she can make spears or some shit

[gaunt sluice]

Fair enough

[rotund shore]

I actually like the idea of calamitas foraging even if she can probably do other things to get food

I want calamitas to get into a hobby like gardening or smth I want her to be happy

[pliant ruin]

i talked abt some of my headcanons for cal here and i fully think she has some good or atleast decent survival skills given her living in isolation and all

[gaunt sluice]

She did mention that didn't she

[pliant ruin]

calamitas gamer arc...

[late veldt]

Calamitas opens a letter from her Grandfather which gives her the deed to his farm

[pliant ruin]

shes a gamer nobody can convince me otherwise

[rotund shore]

What games would calamitas play

[pliant ruin]

i think shes just a variety gamer

basically anything

[real silo]

Fair enough

[gaunt sluice]

dark souls

[rotund shore]

I think she’d like this cool indie game called terraria-

[gaunt sluice]

terrariception

[pliant ruin]

when the souls are dark

[real silo]

She would enjoy calamity mod I think

[pliant ruin]

i think she'd like soulslikes

[gaunt sluice]

cal at endgame learning that the reason the terrarian knows everything about her is because Draetalk

This is reminding me of those channels that imitate popular characters playing video games

[rotund shore]

Actually calamitas likes every game that I like because she’s relatable and awesome

[pliant ruin]

another headcanon i proposed is while i think cal generally would avoid physically hurting others unless it's truly necessary and/or its someone who truly deserves

i also think the moment you piss her off you get burnt

but i hope you understand that i mean burnt, not burnt.

[wooden shadow]

I love killing the wall of Flesh because it unleashes the WOKE hallow onto the world

[gaunt sluice]

ah yes

[pliant ruin]

someone flirts with her and she just absolutely roasts them

[gaunt sluice]

the souls of gay and dark have been released

[pliant ruin]

i mean

calamitas is canonicall the only character we know say Fuck

so

[gaunt sluice]

that checks out

[rotund shore]

Based

[gaunt sluice]

it's worse than physical pain

[pliant ruin]

that one scene from invincible s1 with monster girl and rex

[gaunt sluice]

my headcanon is that she has a black cat named Lilith

after obtaining the no hobo achievement

idk it just feels right

[pliant ruin]

calamita WOULD own a black cat

shes a cat person trust

[gaunt sluice]

yes

and it is a possibility ingame as well

so the zoologist is getting a lot of business while I reroll my cat

[rotund shore]

One of my playthroughs I really need to just build a quaint cabin in the forest for calamitas

[gaunt sluice]

yes

she needs a nice place

I saw someone build like a small graveyard thing for her brothers

and she visited it

[pliant ruin]

thats cool..

[gaunt sluice]

petition to add a therapist npc

just every lunar cycle another random npc moves in with them

[pliant ruin]

every single cal npc will need that 😭

[gaunt sluice]

exactly

[pliant ruin]

excpet like. draedon

lmao

[visual kiln]

hello users

[gaunt sluice]

draedon could watch his whole nonexistent family die

and be like

hmm

this is good data

[gaunt sluice]

Greetings p

[visual kiln]

hello human 2

[pliant ruin]

caught in 4k...

[visual kiln]

wtftwtftwf

[pliant ruin]

he's just uhh

studying familydeathology

its okay

[gaunt sluice]

this data here is made out of data

[gaunt sluice]

parricide ✨

What do you think Cal would like asthetically

[pliant ruin]

gothic aesthethic seems a little on the nose but idk

[gaunt sluice]

h m m m

[pliant ruin]

honestly i got no idea

i can see her wearing casual clothes oftne but thtas abt it

[wanton drift]

Idk if I missed it or if it's not there but what god is Yharim hunting and does it say it anywhere in game?

[gritty kraken]

At the moment it’s probably xeroc god of sunlight or none

[pliant ruin]

All of them tbh

But more specifically Xeroc is his biggest target, being the first and strongest god

But he just wants to kill all of them

[manic coral]

what god is Yharim hunting
yes

[wanton drift]

If he wanted to kill all of them then it wouldn't make sense that Slime God and Providence are still alive so Xeroc probably makes the most sense. Although I vaguely remember reading in a lore bit from in game meaning Yharim's pov that Xeroc hardly counts as a god. Maybe I'm misremembering but ima load up the mod rn and look for it.

[manic coral]

i mean he specifically states the explicit reasons SG and Providence are still alive

[robust osprey]

slime god knows the most powerful movement

[manic coral]

Sg isa slippery bastard, as you see in the fight yourself

[robust osprey]

run away like a mf

[manic coral]

with it literally running away mid-battle

providence has a form of basically teleportation

and is just

really fucking strong

even if she can't exactly use said basically teleportation at will nessesarily at all

[robust osprey]

wasn't provi one of the strongest gods

[manic coral]

and Ravager is just the corpse of an already dead god pretty much so no concer there

[manic coral]

indeedeth

[cosmic zenith]

And then there's Xeroc
Who is definitely a God and definitely too much for Yharim to handle

[robust osprey]

and then there's silva who is unkillable and it's literally planty mush in the abyss now so he doesn't really care

[manic coral]

man it's almsot like this whole crusade thing was bound from the start to never work out and it was stupid as hell actually and acomplished not much really aside form killing a lot of people huh

[wanton drift]

I see Slime god being cowardly and fleeing makes sense. I guess I don't see any mention that Providence couldn't be handled by him. I don't remember Ravager being a god but instead a fleshy golem built as a last ditch effort to stop Yharim's armies. Maybe I'm just also wildly overestimating Yharim's strength.

[light linden]

that ravager lore is old lore iirc

[wanton drift]

Ah ok. I don't know any updated lore. Mostly just what's in the current mod lore bits.

[manic coral]

i mena Providence knows she can't beat Yharim

[gaunt sluice]

I kinda headcanon that all the npcs are just survivors left over from all the societies that were destroyed

[manic coral]

it's just not super ahrd for her to generally avoid him

[wanton drift]

The Providence one says beating the goddess is a deed of valor that can only compare to likes of the witch, Braelor(who I can't remember the significance of), and Yharim himself.

[manic coral]

Providence could maybe put up a bit of a fight for a little while assuming she went blue flame on him but yeah she'd fairly quickly be cooked

[wanton drift]

Ah ok

[manic coral]

it is also important to remembet rhat throughout the Crusade it's not like chaarcter were stagnant in strength

yharim wasn't alwayus as strong as he is now

the exo mechs are even explicitly stated to be made by Draedon to be as strong as Yharim was last time they met

and Yharim is clearly stronger than that now

[wanton drift]

True. And he has a history of being unable to defeat evasive foes such as the Empress of Light.

[tidal tulip]

Will the playable character ever get lore, or will it forever be up to us to decide?

[gaunt sluice]

cool we might actually stand a chance

[manic coral]

Yharim's strenght grew as the crusade did and it went on and he became a more experienced and stronger fighter

[gaunt sluice]

its our decision

that's the cool part

[manic coral]

to the point where the army that follwoed him slowly went from his biggest strength

to a glorified cleanup crew for whatever he left behind

dealing with whatever he missed or skipped

[wanton drift]

Ah ok. I guess I don't know much about the crusade itself and its progression

[gaunt sluice]

will yharim fight us with a tyrant's ultisword

[robust osprey]

braelor is silva's champion and got trapped in abyss by mf DoG before almost killing the yhar itself with his boyfriend

[manic coral]

who needs an army to deal with a city when you can sweep like half of it away yourself in but a single strong blow?

[robust osprey]

except his boyfriend (statis) got out of there

and he's still there, probably suffering

[manic coral]

hell, some cities surrendored at the mere sight of him appraoching eventually

[gaunt sluice]

how many cities are left

at this point

[languid badge]

at least 0

[robust osprey]

in heartlands? negative numbers probably

[wanton drift]

Ah ok. Yeah the Signis lore mentions Statis escaping with Braelor remaining trapped. Didn't know they were champions of Silva which is cool. Would be interesting to see Statis pop up somewhere and have something to do with Silva around the Abyss.

[pliant ruin]

Statis is the champion of Slime God, Braelor's Silva

[gaunt sluice]

yeah he'll be a guy in an update after some time

[pliant ruin]

both as npcs

[tidal tulip]

.

[pliant ruin]

Oh i thought it was canon mb

[robust osprey]

it's atleast a follower or something

[pliant ruin]

Yeah he's atleast a follower of slime god

[wanton drift]

Ah ok. That makes sense since it Statis and Statigel are similar

[tidal tulip]

I understand that silva armor is pretty good, but how exactly statis, even with braelor's companionship, were able to take on yharim is beyond me

statis armor is prehardmode 💀

unless he had something different

[robust osprey]

yharim wasn't as strong as right now + it was 2v1

[wanton drift]

Example of lore surpassing game design maybe?

[robust osprey]

and statis solo is like, around provi tier iirc

I think less than provi

or was it braelor

I remember braelor being slightly stronger

[gaunt sluice]

man's belt is post ml

[tidal tulip]

forgot about that

pick a progression stage statis 😭 🙏

[gaunt sluice]

and I didn't know there was statis armor

[pliant ruin]

braelor is the stronger of the two but we don't know exactly how strong they are

[robust osprey]

statigel I guess

highly doubt it was actually statis'

[tidal tulip]

my apologies i confused it with statigel

[gaunt sluice]

fair enough

braelor has an axe

best character

[robust osprey]

a really cool axe

[wanton drift]

Signis lore says Statis' compatriot Braelor is the one that dueled him to a standstill. So even if it was a 2v1, Statis got beat and Braelor was the only one still standing to fight before DOG intervened.

[light linden]

reminds me of Joan of Arc

[robust osprey]

I remember someone saying both of them combined could be around dog tier

could be wrong

[pliant ruin]

Not exactly

Statis wasn't beat, he was providing support

Braelor was the main one actually clashing with Yharim

[light linden]

since he had a giant axe

[cosmic minnow]

Wait, how did they get yharim to a standdown if they can’t be even dog level ?

[mighty zenith]

yharim was weaker

[wanton drift]

Ah ok. Interesting.

[pliant ruin]

We don't know how strong they actually were + There were two of them

Also yes Yharim was weaker back then

Since no exo upgrades

[cosmic minnow]

Ohhh

[pliant ruin]

I imagine he was even with Yharon or around that

[mighty zenith]

after this fight he specifically got stuff to make him stronger + trained a shit ton

[cosmic minnow]

Nvm me then

[pliant ruin]

They then got ambushed by DoG who sent them to the distortion

[sinful adder]

No, they're as strong as yharim together, they used to be stronger but yharim got a buff since then so yharim is probably slightly stronger now

[pliant ruin]

Statis got out through a bargain with Signus but Braelor stayed, the actual circumstances of said Bargain currently unknown, but it's likely that Statis did not intend for Braelor to be left behind

[gaunt sluice]

man got exo auric

he probably way stronger

[robust osprey]

and signus took an arm and a leg from statis in exchange of his freedom

[wanton drift]

Also, I can't find or remember where in the lore bits Xeroc was mentioned. I think he was the one to absorb Zeratros' auric soul and became what Yharim described as a lowly bastard and hardly a god. But maybe that was just my own headcannon that I'm mistaking for lore.

[sinful adder]

This is probably not a massive difference

[robust osprey]

iirc "traitor's almighty" refers to xeroc

[wanton drift]

Oh that's cool. Didn't know the price of the bargain for his freedom.

[robust osprey]

but I think xeroc isn't mentioned by yharim?

[pliant ruin]

Xeroc was the first God

[gaunt sluice]

dragon armor + infinite power source

[pliant ruin]

Yharim just views as gods a "Falsely Divine", not Xeroc exclusively

all gods*

Xeroc himself seems to actually be kinda chill

He's the person talking to you in Boss Rush and he actually seems p friendly

[gaunt sluice]

he a bit condescending but all around yeah

[pliant ruin]

I'd say less condescneding and more so he's just being honest

[robust osprey]

yeah I mean the man just made the surface more livable

the sun doesn't give you skin cancer now

[pliant ruin]

Like yeah you're not strong enough for whatever his proposal would've been

And he does say that

But he also admires your strenght and acnowledges you're damn strong, and that maybe if you tried agfain some other time you'd be strong enough to do so

So to me it dosen't read as condescending, just him being honest but also admirign our strenght regardless

[wanton drift]

Yeah I beat that recently and had to pause the fight to read his stuff. I just cant remember which lore bit mentioned him before even not by name. Is he also the monk mention in the description for Rock?

[mighty zenith]

yep, though that describes him before ascending

[pliant ruin]

Mhm

[wanton drift]

Neato. Is the battle he's referring to the one against the dragons then?

[pliant ruin]

The one where ML attacked the dragons yuh

[robust osprey]

yeah fovos came to earth and wiped like half of dragons

leading to zeratros' death

[wanton drift]

Fovos?

[robust osprey]

moonlord's name

[mighty zenith]

one of his names*

[wanton drift]

Oooooo. That's cool.

[mighty zenith]

its what people called him back then

[pliant ruin]

I wish people would just call him moonlord since it's so much easier to understand but

[manic coral]

same

there's a reaosn i never call it that

[robust osprey]

fovos is shorter than moonlord...

[pliant ruin]

ok lazy ass

[manic coral]

becduase nobody who doesn't already know

[mighty zenith]

afovus

[manic coral]

will have no idea what the hell im talking about

[wanton drift]

Yeah but now that I know what Fovos is, I kinda like it more than Moonlord.

[pliant ruin]

sorry that was mean.

Fovos is a cool name but it often confuses people unfamiliar with the lore

[manic coral]

be mean

unleash your rage

let your anger consume you

[mighty zenith]

cei stop corrupting people

[robust osprey]

dw that made me laugh tbh

[pliant ruin]

also the moment i looked at this caht costed my limbus company solo run because i wasnt paying attention

you're all at fault

[manic coral]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no

[mighty zenith]

[robust osprey]

evil..

[pliant ruin]

Fovos isn't really his "real" name, it's just one of many names people gave to him

[manic coral]

garbo i hope you step on a sharp lego

[pliant ruin]

In this case, the people of Chrysadia, the civilization that is now only able to be seen through the ruins in the sky

[mighty zenith]

aghat the fckiuck

[robust osprey]

his real name is space thing

fr

[wanton drift]

I suppose another thing I've been confused about. Where is the Dragon's Aeerie. Is that like another plane of existence or is it a physical place in the world?

[pliant ruin]

his real name is not chtulhu

[pliant ruin]

Physical place seemingly

[manic coral]

physical place in the world

just

fucky

[pliant ruin]

actually no

legally distinct chtulhu is his real name

[manic coral]

i mean what simmilarities do they even have

tentacles

kinda vgauely humanoid

uh

yeah

[oak jetty]

Does anyone know where the Wulfrum come from?

[pliant ruin]

Ml is literally designed to be chtulhu

[robust osprey]

john wulfrum

[pliant ruin]

They were made by anti-yharim rebels

That's about all we know

[gritty kraken]

Tungsten

[oak jetty]

Ah

[manic coral]

they it should have more simmilarities

[pliant ruin]

It's the same thing but like
without wings...

[sinful adder]

Hey Cei, will we find out what and why the moon is? Is it as special as the sun?

[pliant ruin]

like it's literally the same guy

[gaunt sluice]

my freaking boss rush is breaking

[manic coral]

dunno and no

[oak jetty]

I kinda thought they were either Draedon's oldest experients or somethin

[sinful adder]

Also can cave Story be canon? It fits really well

[pliant ruin]

Nah, Wulfrums r unrelated to Draedon

[oak jetty]

yeah

[manic coral]

if you ask draedon about them he even insults them

[oak jetty]

lmao

[pliant ruin]

Lmao

[sinful adder]

Seems sad that the moon is less special than the sun when it is involved in so many things (blood moon, eclipses, non canon things)

[oak jetty]

he's just a hater

[pliant ruin]

I mean eclipses in canon seem to be normal

[oak jetty]

I find Wulfrum cute af

[pliant ruin]

Wulfrums r cute yeah

[gaunt sluice]

I have figured out why my boss rush is breaking

[pliant ruin]

little guys

[oak jetty]

Need me a pet Wulfrum

[oak jetty]

Would the 3000 viruses you have on your computer cause that kind of issue?

[gritty kraken]

Is that in the mod

[manic coral]

is it not

[gaunt sluice]

no it's the fact that I deleted the entire underworld

[sinful adder]

Maybe the moon does magic and makes necromancy happen

[oak jetty]

That could do it

[manic coral]

put some ash blocks down there

it tried to bring you to more or elss the closest ash blocks you cna stand on

afaik

maybe that'll work

[gaunt sluice]

I went down and wof spawned so we good

[manic coral]

i also wanted it to be more special but other people disagreed with my propositions so

is what it is

[sinful adder]

Aww

[pliant ruin]

theres little moon men on the moon and they have a really big red lantern they fire onto earth everytime a blood moon happens 😌

[wanton drift]

In a lore bit it says that Zeratros was gravely injured and it looked like his power and life would be lost forever. Then a mortal sworn to the service of the dragons rose to save their King. King being Zeratros I assume and the mortal probably being Xeroc. So was he chosen and given permission to take his soul and ascend? That doesn't exactly seem like "saving" his king.

[mighty zenith]

we dont know

[pliant ruin]

We don't really know the circumstances of Zeratros's death

But yknow

it looked like his power and life would be lost forever

As you said yourself

[sinful adder]

The moon is in an eclipse right now in real life

[manic coral]

yeah not yet. at least, not for a long time.

[sinful adder]

It appears to be a crescent when it should be full for me

[pliant ruin]

Xeroc's ascencion could've been a attempt at preserving the domain of Primordial Light

[oak jetty]

Anyone know who the Devourer of gods works for?

[manic coral]

not until you cna ask xeroc themself what happened

[pliant ruin]

Noxus most likely

[manic coral]

yeha people sorta take it for granted that ti's noxus don't they

it would be really funny if it wasn't

[pliant ruin]

It would be

But i mean

[oak jetty]

And who is Noxus?

[pliant ruin]

It's kinda obvious

[wanton drift]

That's my running theory for the moment with how chill Xeroc seems to be. It would make sense if he became a god to preserve his king rather than his own selfish gain.

[pliant ruin]

Not like we have any other comically powerful distortion beings to assign Devourer's boss to

[oak jetty]

(My brain is very smooth)

[pliant ruin]

We don't know much but

Potential superboss

[mighty zenith]

watch out cei, your scott cawthon is speaking

[pliant ruin]

Big distortion creature guy

[sinful adder]

What if noxus is like

The moon lord's son

[oak jetty]

ok

So... is there any lore on Noxus?

[pliant ruin]

What if Noxus is the father of the Terrarian and the brother of Yharim

Also he's married to Corrupt Mimic

[pliant ruin]

Uhhh

Yes?

Not much but

Some stuff is implied

[oak jetty]

Where can I find it?

[gritty kraken]

Alien

[pliant ruin]

It's mostly left as a mystery currently, eldritch unknowable deity type thing

[gritty kraken]

What

[oak jetty]

Innocent whistling

[gritty kraken]

Must’ve been a wind

[pliant ruin]

[mighty zenith]

concert

🎸

[pliant ruin]

this was meant to be parodying redigit terraria lore by the way but i think i failed at conveying that

[robust osprey]

noxus lore: noxus exists somewhere

[manic coral]

dont worry my writing is actually coherent across the thing im writing

[mighty zenith]

[oak jetty]

wonderful

[robust osprey]

now you're going to change 90% of the lore 5 minutes before SSO releases and everyone will be confused as hell

[oak jetty]

I just love the fact that the Terrarian just casually lives in a universe where gods exist everywhere

[pliant ruin]

do you force your community to write your lore for them through 500 books and novels

[gritty kraken]

Is Providence its daughter

[oak jetty]

Imagine how hellish it would be living in Terraria

[robust osprey]

I mean to be fair they aren't traditional gods

like in most media

[wanton drift]

Is there lore for the lore bits? It says whispers from on high dance in your ears. Press left shift to listen closer. So is that Yharim actually just speaking to us? Seems pretty obvious but I just wanna clarify for my brain.

[manic coral]

world

not universe

[robust osprey]

these gods are significantly weaker than most gods from other games

[oak jetty]

That wouldn't be much of a comforting thought when Providence starts dropping hellfire on thine ass

[manic coral]

yeha more based on actual mythologies and stuff

[gritty kraken]

What if using lore item just have yharim teleport at you and explain the thing to you then leave

[manic coral]

thinking in the wrong ballpark if you're thinkign like capital G god or something

[oak jetty]

Obviously

[gritty kraken]

Yeah

[oak jetty]

Tday in Terraria: We KILL GOD

[manic coral]

not so obviously to some people

[robust osprey]

I mean yeah provi is powerful as fuck but she was one of the strongest, you have slime god for example

[pliant ruin]

It's Yharim yeah

There are potential plans

[oak jetty]

(My smooth ah brain)

[pliant ruin]

To change lore items into directly communication with Yharim through a stone tablet of sorts

iirc

but it's not. set in stone yet

just an idea

[oak jetty]

Still be able to slaughter most people

[manic coral]

either way yeah it's directly yharim to player communication

[robust osprey]

that's true

[manic coral]

oh absolutely

[pliant ruin]

i mean you could say the same for any setting that has powerful entities on it

[manic coral]

many people. full batallions of soliders, at least

[robust osprey]

slime god can kill entire armies by itself

[wanton drift]

I figured as much. It makes me wonder where Yharim is and is speaking from consider the "from on high"

[oak jetty]

Just don't add Yharim as a boss, but as a guy who rocks up after you battle Calamitas and win

[robust osprey]

and if it fails it does its special attack

run away!

[oak jetty]

Or Draedon

[manic coral]

i mena

[gritty kraken]

I think I saw something like storm weaver lore item being it’s mandible
Maybe I just dream it up idk

[manic coral]

he says himself

the dragon aerie

[oak jetty]

Where is that?

[gritty kraken]

Somewhere draedon can’t find

[manic coral]

dunno, ask yharim.

[oak jetty]

Alright. I'll go get him.

BRB

[gritty kraken]

Simply ask yharon

[mighty zenith]

📞 : fuck off

[robust osprey]

that made me laugh

[oak jetty]

NEVER

[gritty kraken]

New emoji combo just dropped

[wanton drift]

Ah. So that's why you say its fucky. Do we know if its like on the planet and he's like they greybeards in skyrim just shouting down to you? Or is it like somewhere above the planetoids? I always assumed it was like the Elden Ring shadow lands and on the planet somewhere but under some sort of protective veil.

[gaunt sluice]

last bit is on the mark

[oak jetty]

Lore update: He's just a ancient racist guy yelling abuse at you whenever you kill a god

[robust osprey]

it's fucky beacuse time is kind of non-existant

anything from the aerie isn't affected by time

[mighty zenith]

that was old lore

[oak jetty]

Nice

I like this lore

[manic coral]

yeah as mentioned in the rock poem

[robust osprey]

however things that aren't from there, like people or dragons, are affected

[manic coral]

time doesn't pass in the aerie

[mighty zenith]

current yharim doesnt yell abuse at you
he does it at everyone else instead

[manic coral]

or well

FOR the aerie

this leads to fuckiness

[light linden]

I've always thought the aerie and distortion were kinda related

I doubt they are but

[manic coral]

for exmaple. damage to the aerie, specifically, the fatc that it doesn't take it.

any

at all

from anything

[gaunt sluice]

except xeroc

[manic coral]

it doesn't matter how much force you use

[oak jetty]

Peak

[manic coral]

it's sitll being applied over 0 time

thing times 0 is still 0

[gaunt sluice]

xeroc shaved one off]

[wanton drift]

Ah so the dragon war took place in the aerie. Interesting.

[gaunt sluice]

is that gonna be changed

[manic coral]

xeroc is a special case

[gaunt sluice]

o alr

[robust osprey]

the man who can reduce you to atoms with 1 punch does exactly 0 damage to the aerie

[oak jetty]

We could use this as a concept for the Yharim battle. He just takes no damage

[light linden]

They're both basically pocket dimensions, have unique laws of physics, and have ties to auric souls

[oak jetty]

For the entire battle

And Doesn't die

[wanton drift]

What's the distortion? Is that where DOG comes from?

[light linden]

Yes

[manic coral]

yupyup, is literally the reason your battle doesn't absolutely fucking destroy the aerie

[light linden]

It's a weird alternate dimension type thing

[manic coral]

but also that hs a reall funny implication

that if time ever DID resume

[wanton drift]

Oooooo. Fun fun stuff.

[light linden]

Oh btw cei

[manic coral]

the imapct of all the force it's ever taken would all apply at once

[light linden]

Speaking of the distortion

[manic coral]

making it basically instantly fucking expode

[robust osprey]

so basically

[gaunt sluice]

if time did resume the aerie would frickin nuclear explode to the power of a nuclear explosion

[manic coral]

that is a funny implication

[robust osprey]

giga kaboom

[light linden]

You said cosmilite is usually a liquid right?

[sinful adder]

Ah hah! I suspected that was the case!

[manic coral]

an unintentional implication, but

a funny one

[wanton drift]

So are we supposed to break into the aerie the same way gogeta and broly shattered dimensions in the dragon ball movie?

[manic coral]

yes

[gritty kraken]

Yharim fight ending and it’s just both of you escaping from the collapses

[manic coral]

it's naturaly form is liquid

[real silo]

draedon suddenly detecting an explosion big enough to light up the night sky

[manic coral]

no just

go there

[oak jetty]

So if we killed Yharim, would the world collapse?

[sinful adder]

Time doesn't pass there, or at least doesn't pass on anything that was in the aerie when it formed

[manic coral]

that's the problem though

the question of where is it

[robust osprey]

no he just dies

[sinful adder]

Then, what's the deal with the dragon aerie forming? How did it get like that?

Was there a dragon of time?

[oak jetty]

😭

[sinful adder]

Will we ever know?

[robust osprey]

they should make it so the moment yharim is killed a party starts, and Scal starts it

[light linden]

Would it be possible (theoretically) to make a weapon that fires liquid cosmilite at the target and then freezes it when it hits a target?

[gritty kraken]

Remind me when draedon hologram have a new dialogue during lunar event about something just entered terraria or something

[gaunt sluice]

this would be perfect

[wanton drift]

Would be cool if the aerie was tied to world spawn in someway. Like you enter it in the exact point you spawn in. Could make for fun lore things.

[manic coral]

peak

[light linden]

Although this concept would prolly work best for a grenade

Still

[gaunt sluice]

cosmibeenade

[sinful adder]

How big of an explosion would happen if time resumed in the aerie?

[gaunt sluice]

instantly obliterated

[manic coral]

big, probably

[light linden]

Tryna think of how a liquid metal could be used for weapons

[robust osprey]

nothing left probably

[manic coral]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sinful adder]

We'd have to add up all the stuff that happened to it at once

[oak jetty]

Are we allowed to give Calamitas hugs?

[gaunt sluice]

that is a good question

How susceptible are you to 4th degree burns

[robust osprey]

she probably wouldn't like it, atleast not many hugs

[gritty kraken]

Are we allowed to give Calamitas clone a hug

[robust osprey]

I am capable of soporting that

[sinful adder]

But anyways I want to know how and why the aerie is. Can we get some kind of time/light pickaxe to be able to mine it? One of the terrarian's key things is their ability to mine really good, after all

[gaunt sluice]

then calamitas hug is viable

[oak jetty]

Incredibly

[wanton drift]

In the communication box with Draedon, is there a way to get some other choice than introduction?

[manic coral]

no mining ever

[oak jetty]

Perfect

[robust osprey]

but only once

2 is too much

[manic coral]

even before new lore

[gritty kraken]

Make Miracle Matter

[manic coral]

it was decided that you wouldnt be able to mine or anything like that there

[oak jetty]

Skill issue

[gaunt sluice]

you click the introduction and then I think you unlock everything else

[sinful adder]

But what if ultimate primordial light pickaxe of time enchantment

[gritty kraken]

or the weapons from it

[sinful adder]

Mining is like the terrarian's big thing

[manic coral]

wouldn't do anything

[mighty zenith]

i think the chances of calclone killing you over a hug are much higher

[robust osprey]

yeah you need to make drae forge and make something

[gaunt sluice]

the dirt here appears to be made of bedrock

[oak jetty]

Make Yharim minable

[scenic olive]

What are we discussing

[scenic olive]

Me carving rock from the aerie

[sinful adder]

Huh

[wanton drift]

Weird. I did that and crafted a weapon but still nothing.

[robust osprey]

(note thay if you do with magic storage it bugs and doesn't count)

[oak jetty]

Turn Yharim into a ore

[robust osprey]

yharim bars:

[manic coral]

i would think it'd be funny if you could find a concpiciously missing block and put the rock back there

[oak jetty]

YES

[robust osprey]

yharim bars are a thing in ccr

[gaunt sluice]

Cool new dirt
Try to mine new dirt
Break crystyl crusher

[gritty kraken]

the yhbar

[oak jetty]

So. you managed to mine a god.....

[sinful adder]

Can we at least find out why it is that way

[wanton drift]

Yes. The rock is key to the aerie.

[manic coral]

yes

when you go there

[scenic olive]

Do we have

[oak jetty]

i.e. Never

[gaunt sluice]

the rock being the key to the aerie would be really annoying but also make sense

[scenic olive]

xeroc backstory

[sinful adder]

One calamillion years in the future, got it

[manic coral]

again there's no key

there's no abrrier

[gritty kraken]

Isn’t boss rush post yhar

[manic coral]

just

know where to go

[split mortar]

Hi

[wanton drift]

Ah

[gaunt sluice]

yoooo

[robust osprey]

that would be cool

[gaunt sluice]

welcome back melon

[sinful adder]

What if you gotta climb the infinite Bowser stairs to get up there

[robust osprey]

BLJ it

[manic coral]

blj up them

duh

[wanton drift]

Do we know how that's going to work in terms of game design? Something with subspace library I imagine?

[manic coral]

indeed

[wanton drift]

Fancy

[manic coral]

it is off-continent, so

[robust osprey]

or get 70 stars..

[oak jetty]

So, how much is actually planned to be added to Calamity?

[manic coral]

enough

[robust osprey]

get 70 solyns to access

[gaunt sluice]

I think there's a document detailing it

[manic coral]

(at least sunken sea overhaul, crags overhaul + azafure, distortion, and dragon aerie)

[oak jetty]

OOH

really?

[wanton drift]

One day my adhd hyperfixation for this game will cause me to develop a mod that extends the world borders to a massive extent and has them wrap around to the other end.

[robust osprey]

yeah in #calamity-update-talk

[split mortar]

Yeah in #calamity-update-talk

[robust osprey]

in the pins

[split mortar]

Pffft

[gaunt sluice]

welp there you go

[oak jetty]

Where abouts in it?

[manic coral]

alright

[oak jetty]

Pinned?

[split mortar]

Ye

[manic coral]

citizens of lore chat

[gaunt sluice]

I think it's in #calamity-update-talk

[manic coral]

my subjects

[gaunt sluice]

yes

[oak jetty]

Yes our lorf

[robust osprey]

we share the same braincell...

[gritty kraken]

lore discussion hivemind before distortion update

[split mortar]

Throw gravel at this being

[manic coral]

and also the catgirls and catboys that spawn from this chat

i rest now

good night

[gaunt sluice]

good night

[split mortar]

Bai

[wanton drift]

Have good night

[gaunt sluice]

o7

[robust osprey]

good night

[oak jetty]

Eep well

[wanton drift]

Finally after getting access to all the draedon info I got a better grasp on things. And i learned the aerie is just a floating island that is cloaked through unknown means. Knowning physically that it's a floating island now is cool.

[strange coyote]

Who is singing in yharons theme?

[stoic gulch]

Yharon

I don’t think it’s canon either way

[strange coyote]

Oh ok thx

[magic epoch]

it's mostly canon

[vestal lagoon]

dm dokuro

[magic epoch]

actually no i think all of rotjd is canon except for the name for obvious reasons

[stoic gulch]

Oh yeah it’s scal song that’s not canon?

[magic epoch]

scal song is canon if you stretch the meanings of like. One line iirc

"you have been sent on your rulers despondent demand" or smth

[mighty zenith]

ehh not really

sbc is an issue cause it includes terrarian lore in it

so by nature of its lyrics it can only be headcanon

plus yeah all the outdated stuff in it

[limpid saddle]

need to draw an 'i [crystal-heart here] terrarian lore' chud immideatly

[mighty zenith]

billions must headcanon

[limpid saddle]

concrete information about the protaganist my beloved

[spiral grove]

how strong is the calamity terrarian? I read here that terrarian is high city level but didnt they kill a black hole? (Correct me if im wrong)

[tall delta]

what blackhole

[spiral grove]

ceaseless

[tall delta]

and yeah high city level to country iirc

[cloud ibex]

not a black hole

[spiral grove]

Oh

who told me that bro

[split mortar]

Ceaseless is just a portal

[cloud ibex]

iirc the boss fight is basically you breaking the seal created around a portal to DoG's home dimension? can't quite remember

[spiral grove]

ohh i see

[split mortar]

Old lore it may have been a black hole but im unsure and its not canon

[cloud ibex]

no it was still a rift i think

just one created by accident

[spiral grove]

By dog right?

[cloud ibex]

people tend to misinterpret and exaggerate calamity's power levels based on certain tooltips and flavor text

[cloud ibex]

yes

[split mortar]

In old lore yeah

Current lore? Ceaseless is too much for dog to make

[blazing kettle]

When was the switch from old lore to new lore

[split mortar]

Biggest feat in calamity btw

[split mortar]

Near 2 years ago

[split mortar]

And its
City level

On average

[spiral grove]

I knew the calamity terrarian as over galaxy level bro 😭

[split mortar]

Dont think even old lore scaled that high for the most part lmao

[gritty kraken]

Ark of the cosmos and its damage to calamity power scaling

[blazing kettle]

But can she make a grilled cheese

[split mortar]

Uh
With a lot of struggle i imagine

Mainly cause her fire is like
Hotter then the sun by a massive amount iirc

The calamity sun

[blazing kettle]

Does calamitas have control over her powers as in can she make them weaker if she wants to?

Cus I doubt she has to give 100% all of the time

[split mortar]

Well we dunno how precise she is with said fire

[cloud ibex]

well she doesn't exclusively know brimstone magic does she

[split mortar]

And since normal spells used to explode into brimstone

I assume she has trouble with that low of an output

[cloud ibex]

i feel like she might in theory know how to conjure normal fire

though yeah i suppose maybe she's so used to magic on a much larger scale that cranking it down gets difficult

[blazing kettle]

Yea that makes sense

[cloud ibex]

or maybe she unintentionally slips into brimstone fire even when she's trying to do normal fire cause that's what she's experienced with

[split mortar]

Explodes grilled cheese with mind
-# accident

[blazing kettle]

How limited to your magic is one in calamity? Can a brimstone witch in no way make anything except fire and or the ice mage can he do fire for example?

[split mortar]

Permafrost specialises in ice but in general is cracked at all magics iirc

[blazing kettle]

So he could do any magic but chooses ice?

[split mortar]

And yeah cal can do other magics
She uses necromancy
And she can use other ones aswell without them exploding, just was an issue when they were younger

[split mortar]

Yup
Its how he has lived for so long iirc

[cloud ibex]

you know what would be kinda funny

[split mortar]

They half froze themselves or something to slow the aging process iirc

[blazing kettle]

Confetti magic

[split mortar]

Flask of party:

[cloud ibex]

there was a discussion in here the other day about what exactly cal did between leaving the yharmy and fighting you, and i mentioned it being kinda silly if she did tiny acts of magic to impress random villagers who had never seen magic into giving her food supplies and such

[blazing kettle]

So basically Frieren

[cloud ibex]

like conjuring a tiny golf ball sized fireball in her hand and them going "WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKK"

[blazing kettle]

That’s funny ngl

[cloud ibex]

but it would also be kinda funny if people recognized her as the person who boiled ilmeris and telling her to fuck off

[blazing kettle]

Then accidentally summoning that snake looking devil thing

[cloud ibex]

but then she goes "no i'm not calamitas i'm uhhhhhhhh an ice mage"

[blazing kettle]

Unlikely anyone can remember her, that boiling prolly looked like hell on earth

[cloud ibex]

and she freezes a tiny bit of the ground and they go "oh yeah her whole thing is fire why would she know ice magic, sorry for bothering you"

[blazing kettle]

Lmao

„sorry fam, my fault“

[real silo]

They threw her in a pond and she didn't float so she's chill to them

[cloud ibex]

well maybe not literally recognize her, but maybe like

hearing tales of an Azafurian mage in Yharim's army with overwhelming control over brimstone magic, and then seeing an Azafurian woman walking into their village who claims to be a mage

[magic epoch]

this is just like the one game

[noble niche]

Okay hear me out: Terrarian isn't you it's steve from accounting

[latent bolt]

life or bath for dry cal

[river python]

When Yharim is going to be released as a boss fight?

[glass finch]

Did calamity defeat the brimestone elemental?

[blazing kettle]

Tomorrow

[magic epoch]

they lived but brimmy's power was substantially drained by calamitas iirc

[split mortar]

It was a tie since neither side could hurt another

Though brimmy is weirdly much weaker nowadays so i think scal absorbed most of thejr power

[river python]

How i explain to my friend that Yharim is a genocide

[prime mauve]

like that

[blazing kettle]

Is that John calamity

[prime mauve]

no

I get confused for him a lot though

[river python]

My friend loves Yharim

How i explain that Yharim is bad

[magic epoch]

let them like yharim

[limpid saddle]

3 fargo months

[magic epoch]

yharim is evil not bad

[river python]

I'm going to kill all his family to see if he likes a genocide

[hoary cape]

His family is already dead

He is over a hundred years old they died a while ago

[river python]

I mean the family of my friend

Because he likes Yharim

[pseudo scroll]

By any chance, is Xeroc's pre-ascension height (or even an estimate of it) referenced anywhere at all in canon?

[indigo glade]

No.

[pseudo scroll]

Tyvm for the reply^^

[limpid saddle]

I mean you can try estimate from the Pre-Ascension Key art

Outside of that...

theres nothing

[pseudo scroll]

I see, tricky one then

We have the ducky inflatable and pool noodle from cosmatic's stream to compare!
/j

[tepid timber]

Xeroc is a manlet

3ft tall at most

[thick slate]

yharim typing on keyboard.gif

[dusk laurel]

TRUE

[real silo]

true

[split mortar]

Mods
Yharim react this man

[unborn wind]

Lore writers hear my cries for knowledge when draedon was first activated did he always have a body or was he like a disembodied ai or some shit

[pulsar ocean]

why would xeroc make u go through a boss rush this is a waste of a terminus function

[unborn wind]

May or may not need to know for a projecy im working on

[split mortar]

To test you

And while you pass it

You still aint strong enough

For their proposal

Whatever it is

[pulsar ocean]

i like how there are weapons in game called something like "galaxy smasher" and "universe splitter destroyer 8000" and the strongest boss thats currently in game is city level

[split mortar]

The names are cool

[young socket]

king grutmores edge of annihilation

[young socket]

thats not the power of the terminus doing it

at all

[pliant ruin]

yeah the terminus has nothign to do with BR

you jsut alert xeroc by picking it up

[pulsar ocean]

yeah but u still have to left click terminus for it to start

so it counts

as a function

[split mortar]

Xeroc can just refill terminus if that ever becomes a problem of it running out of juice and that mattering

[pliant ruin]

the nefarious gameplay purposes

[young socket]

in reality ur just

holding up a rock

lmao

[split mortar]

Since xeroc had hidden the terminus
Maybe they uh
Dont want people to use it freely and wont care about it being used up

Idk

[young socket]

xeroc alr said watever function it had cant be used again

so i think the reason is just xeroc noticed u holding his special stone tablet

[split mortar]

-# its very likely perfect god ascension

[manic coral]

that just get his attention

it doesn't do anything to start it

xerco is the one who handles that

[wheat walrus]

you're actually wrong xeroc was inside the terminus and after boss rush ends he's free

trust me i've seen it

[mighty zenith]

ah, free at last

[wheat walrus]

💥

[late veldt]

HEY GOD LOOK AT THIS COOL FUCKING ROCK I FOUND

[hoary cape]

Xeroc: oh no my most prized possession

[split mortar]

a sentimental rock and a sentimental glowing rock

[split mortar]

Crack meth heroine theory

Primordial light is used in terminus and is likely the key for perfect ascension

In embers a bit of primordial light was used by blue providence to make the perfect fire iirc

Primordial light is perfectionist

[hoary berry]

melon gun

[spring helm]

Terrarian: “Oh wow, cool rock.”

Xeroc: “Would you like to explode?”

[river python]

where is going to be released the official Exo mechs theme?

[young socket]

this is lore

but itll be on cdmusics channel

[pulsar ocean]

whats the difference between worm and wyrm

[young socket]

a worm is a worm 🪱

[eager bluff]

a wyrm is a type of dragon

[young socket]

a wyrm is a dragon

[mighty zenith]

wyrms are uhh serpent dragons basically

[hoary cape]

worm dragons

[manic coral]

one is a, well, worm. a wyrm isa type of limbless dragon.

generally snake-like or, well

worm-like

[pulsar ocean]

but primordial wyrm doesnt breathe fire

[pliant ruin]

dragons have to breathe fire to be dragons 🔥 ✍️

[pulsar ocean]

what qualifies you as a dragon

[manic coral]

what? noooo, let me consult dungeons and dragons and- oh. oh no.

[pliant ruin]

whatever the writers decide the definition of dragon is, usually a large reptilian creature with fantastic powers

[manic coral]

usually whatever writers want to be dragons is the only consistent aspects in media

[pliant ruin]

guys

old duke isnt a dragon

[snow orbit]

big giant lizard with wings which wouldnt be able to fly due to lacking anatomy and wing span

[pliant ruin]

it dosent breathe fire

pensive

[snow orbit]

old duke is a fraud

[pliant ruin]

ok that was mean sorry

[pulsar ocean]

it was supposed to be a dragon?

[pliant ruin]

dont diss my goat

[pulsar ocean]

fishron is a dragon?

i thought they were just big fish

[pliant ruin]

have you seen its new design

[manic coral]

usually big (optional), breaths something dangerous (optional), old (optional), can fly (optional), has scales (optional), and SOME sort of intelligence (optional)

(pick and choose 3 or so)

[snow orbit]

Hes so... filler...

[pliant ruin]

this is why you read documments pl

[manic coral]

or just

the stuff in the game

[snow orbit]

Pick all

[pulsar ocean]

jared cant be a dragon hes a fish

he lives underwater

🫧

[dusk laurel]

.

[pliant ruin]

anyways heres old duke

[tepid timber]

Technically the player could be a dragon if you wanted to be one

[manic coral]

wait until you hear about whales

[pliant ruin]

or crabs

or squids

or like

most marine life actually

[dusk laurel]

jellyfish

[snow orbit]

Leviathan

[tepid timber]

Plankton from spondgebob

[dusk laurel]

fucking algae

[snow orbit]

Insert subnautica reference somewhere

[pulsar ocean]

holy crap is he not gonna be lame in the next 500 years when this gets implemented

[snow orbit]

New duke design coming near you in 5 years

[tepid timber]

They will make him peak

[manic coral]

counterpoint: he's already not lame

[tepid timber]

Probably

[manic coral]

his theme fucks

[snow orbit]

His theme yes

[dusk laurel]

So true

[manic coral]

his lore fucks (i'm biased but)

[snow orbit]

It is fire

[pliant ruin]

ok ngl i agree he is kinda lame i dont like his design

[manic coral]

and the fight is fun

[young socket]

i love how all of it is optional

[manic coral]

i mean

[pliant ruin]

his current design anyways

[manic coral]

they really ARE though

[young socket]

behold

[split mortar]

Thats like
The point

[young socket]

my dragon

[tepid timber]

The fight is so so but the theme is cool

[young socket]

(normal ass fox)

[manic coral]

"Dragon" in media is just most of the time

[light linden]

hey cei can I ask something about the sulphurous sea?

[manic coral]

and pick-and-choose bag of traits

[pliant ruin]

ok tbf its not that i dislike old dukes design its just nothingburger

[manic coral]

it's so loosely universally defined

[pliant ruin]

i do actually dislike normal fishron though and tis specifcially because of the tusks

the tusks r rly ugly and bad

but old duke dosent have them so he's ok

[snow orbit]

Guys hear me out, old duke burger

[young socket]

i mean thats mainly because we attributed the word dragon to a fuckton of things from a fuckton of different cultures

[manic coral]

yeah

[snow orbit]

Makes you old and wrinkly with a mediocre design

[pliant ruin]

most cal designs currently ingame r mediocre if ill be fr

[manic coral]

like even in series like monster hunter for dragon you have shit thata re dragons that range from like

[pliant ruin]

with some exceptions

exos are pretty cool mech designs

[manic coral]

fatalis, the msot tradtional looking dragon ever maybe

to

a blue horse

[pliant ruin]

leviathan and anahita are also cool

[split mortar]

@omni

[tepid timber]

Next update will make the designs peak

[dusk laurel]

Only some

[tepid timber]

Such as signus

[pliant ruin]

signus isnt from the next update

[pulsar ocean]

sigmus

[pliant ruin]

and also his design is uh

[dusk laurel]

Misinformation

[pliant ruin]

mostly unchanged

[split mortar]

Sig us isnt next update

[pliant ruin]

if were being fr

[dusk laurel]

Signus is not in sso

[tepid timber]

WHY

[pliant ruin]

signus actually already has a good design

[snow orbit]

Signus in 7 years

[pliant ruin]

as you can tell by

again

[manic coral]

because it's not done yet

[pliant ruin]

his design being mostly unchanged

[tepid timber]

I NEED SIGNUS

[dusk laurel]

Mfw I spread misinformation

[snow orbit]

Genius

[split mortar]

Because its not distortion update

Its sunken sea overhaul

[pulsar ocean]

i cant wait for dog to become 3 times bigger and 5 times faster

[manic coral]

ok less distortion update more probably statis update

[tepid timber]

It’s calamitover

[snow orbit]

Wait till mr. information hears about this

You'll be in deep shut

[dusk laurel]

[snow orbit]

end me i just mispelled

[pulsar ocean]

does noxus live in the distortion somewhere

[split mortar]

Vanillin is a spoiler nerd, they are mr info

[young socket]

can we make cnidrion a dragon

[pliant ruin]

well

to be fair

technically

[shut tide]

I wonder if we will ever learn more about Silva and her followers

[pliant ruin]

some seahorse relatives are called sea dragons....

[dusk laurel]

Sea honse

[pulsar ocean]

no

[young socket]

WOOO

[pliant ruin]

hiii cnidrion

[manic coral]

me when i spread misinformation online

[dusk laurel]

💥 💥 💥 💥

[pulsar ocean]

SEA DRAGON?
LIKE SEA DRAGON SUBNAUTICA

[snow orbit]

Yes sea dragon subnautica

Next up reaper leviathan

[shut tide]

dear god...

ghost leviathan- oh wait thats the wyrm

[pliant ruin]

this will be cnidrion in 2014

[snow orbit]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

Just wait until 2030 when wyrm gets redesigned

[pliant ruin]

actually cnidrion looks more like a sea dragon tahn a sea horse unironically

[pulsar ocean]

now that i think about it
ghost leviathan and jared designs do look pretty silimar

[snow mountain]

will we watch cnidrion give birth live

[pliant ruin]

that's neat i guess

[split mortar]

Draconic offshoots are still dragons

So basilisks, wyverns, pigrons, fishrons, folly, wyrms and prob some more are actual dragons despite being offshoots

[shut tide]

[spare pier]

I think most of the designs are fine, really. I notice that there is just basically two sides when it comes to designs and it's the "this looks cool Imma do this" and the insert wall of text skeleton meme here

[snow orbit]

Wait till 2047 and calamity will remodel normal fishron

[young socket]

no

[split mortar]

Wyrms are inspired by ghost leviathans

[pliant ruin]

I find most of the current ingame designs to be just

nothingburger

[young socket]

wats the insert wall of text skeleton meme

[pliant ruin]

"inspired" certainly

is a way to put it

[snow mountain]

real

so real

[snow orbit]

what about everything sandwich

[pliant ruin]

like yeah sure maybe the designs aren't bad but they're also just

nothing

kinda uninteresting

[young socket]

theyre like mostly the same except ones all blue and the other has blue and black

and ig

[tepid timber]

Jared looks more like the big fish from that one game

[young socket]

ones skin looks more smooth

the other looks more

scaley i think?

[pulsar ocean]

the head shape is like literally the same

[pliant ruin]

theyre like the same but one is covered in rocks

thats literally it

[tepid timber]

One is translucent

[young socket]

but like other than that theyre literally exactly the same

[snow mountain]

literally the same thing

[split mortar]

Heavy inspiration was taken

[split mortar]

With a slight bit of control c control v

[pliant ruin]

Ok actually

ravager is cool

like, current ravager

[split mortar]

Static af tho

[snow orbit]

Sunken sea update coming sometime whenever? Went to the happening office and they said nothings happening

[pliant ruin]

do i like it more than new ravager? no, but i will say that as a design its really fucking cool

PBG is also pretty good

folly is cool

i like folly

[spare pier]

Yeah, I get that but I think that some stuff just

Doesn't need that kind of stuff

[snow mountain]

tomorrow