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Yooo
Give me one second though
Oki
rebecca giving spoilers š„
Do you guys think Edward & Alphonse Elric from Full-Metal Alchemist could beat Calamity
I think they could pull it off honestly
If they had a Philosopher's Stone they could definetly pull it off
12
10+9=21
Boom
All thre i vote
thre
You get to pick 3, everyone
3, 6, 12
10
9
21
So choose carefully and democratically
19
No one has picked the same number lmao
I'm giving you 21 and 19, there is one more you can pick
16
YOO
19 is about Azafure
YOO
World building dub
For comparison btw
Draetalk had 16 topics
Amidias has 22
I told you to pick between 1 and 21 because there is a repeated topic
I wrote too much stuff about Ilmeris' culture 
Its an entire kingdoms culture theres never enough
actually I've been wondering something
what metal did they use?
water doesn't mix well with most metals iirc
Gold doesnt rust iirc
Limestone idfk
What is the political system of the Yharim tyranny?
Yharim was a nomadic warlord
o
we know he had bureaucrats
not much else
In terraria its just flat better then iron
I mean
I need limestone to be added...
maybe but also gold is harder to get
Why would they have to use metals for construction tho
and I was thinking for weapons
I mean dry pockets existed in the ilmeran sea (ie. the upper and lower regions like the former and current shores, basalt gully, etc.
And they could still import things
So probably similar materials to everyone else for the most part during their heydey
And is Yharim fascist?
we don't know

before they united however tho
probably some useful types of rocks as substitutes, and any metals that were available
And they still had access to trade pre-unification iirc so yeah
I honestly think the materials they used for weapons were about on par as anyone else near ilmeris
Why does Calamitas continue to fight for Yharim despite the regretful events she experienced at Azafure with the Brimstone Elementa?
she doesn't
The reason she comes after us is because she doesnāt want another yharim right?
ya
She gained her powers that day, then served under yharim after that because it looked like he was the good one there.
She left yharim after he made her incinerate ilmeris and kill her adoptive father
(Tried to, for the last one)
Might be one of those questions up to how the player sees it but how do wings work? Do they fuse to your body using magic? Do they use like a harness?
No definite answer
But i headcanon theyre like a magic prosthetic
I need more mage weapons like wulfrum prosthesis...
yes
Flinging around my metal arm to cast spells
give mage some accessories
calamity?
Yes
yeah and u dont even need mana flower
Incinerate ilmeris?
and chaos stone is just kinda there
Yes
What is that
i never use it
Why do you think the sunken sea is half the underground desert and not 90%?
her
An event where the civilization of ilmeris and the upper ilmeran sea were incinerated
Ah the incineration
does calamity have a book
they should make a light novel with the lore
itd be insane
Fair tbh
And Calamitasā adoptive father?
Permafrost the Archmage
Ohhhh
And instead she sealed him in cryogen thatās right
Sheās from Azafure right?
Yep
Which is the brimstone crag bc of Calamitas and Brimstone Elemental
Yea
Iād read the shit outta that
wait whos ilmeris
Meant to reply
Ilmeris is the nation that resided in the sunken sea
ho
but wait
wasnt it calamitas who was about to kill permafrost but instead locked him up
you know the desert? It used to be a whole nation built in a place like the sunken sea
unfortunately for them, they had two gods and yharim wanted them dead
She was ordered to kill him by Yharim, but she didn't want to
Which is why she sealed Permafrost instead
They were basically the European union of fish people
What two gods occupied the sea?
Otonilou goddess of electricty
Tyrian and otonilou
Tyrian god of the seas
yeah
Ah
jellyfish and anglerfish people
Desert Scourge was formerly aquatic but when the incineration happened it didnāt retreat to the sunken sea?
Not really no
I think it used to be a seashore thing
Aquatic and desert scourges are separate species
Semi aquatic and just adapted to the less wet environment
desert scourge lived on the beach by the edge of the ocean, the desert ecosystem existed but was smaller
Desert scourge lived in the area where the underground desert currently is, pre-incineration, so it had to adapt to the new environment afterwards
wait no I think it was on the edges of that area
because the underground desert was underwater mostly
Yeah
It lived in a shores area kinda like the timeless shores
So it was already amphibious
And it switched from being a filter-feeder (yuck) to having an omnivorous diet
The Distorted was where DoG and its sentinels came from right? Do we know anything about that dimension?
I thought theyād be done one Yharim came out
Noxus and Xeroc might be added
As post-Yharim superbosses
WotG's bosses are unique characters, nameless still overlaps with Xeroc from time to time but they are different beings, and WotG Noxus is getting replaced by a totally new boss so yeah
Ah, I thought they were the same
Is it safe to assume that illmeris may have had some above ground housing and whatnot? I believe there was a mention of ports for trading somewhere
Ilmeris was totally underground so nope
I still headcanon that there were like caves and rivers connecting to it from the surface desert
Ilmeran trade ports would've been to the sides of the sea ig
so the surface was still your traditonal desert
and calamitas in definition "expanded" it when she incinerated it
Yep
the surface desert and a sliver of the underground desert below it existed before the incineration
so at the time we fight her in game, she is no longer affilated with Yharim?
Correct
Unless I totally made up illmeris having trade ports but I assume there would be??
what are her motives, why does she fight?
Yes calamitas is a d1 yharim hater
Uhm she thinks we have become too much like yharim
She fights you since she thinks you were another potential Yharim
Yeah
ohhhhhhh
but then when you defeat her she comes to acceptance and allies with you despite that?
She realizes that you aren't like Yharim yes
Unless you headcanon yourself to be an aspiring Yharim successor
Draedon just does his own thing right? He used to work with yharim until plaguebringer goliath?
Yharim fired him after the plague project, since Yharim hates slavery
Is there more to draedon fighting with the exo mechs other than the fact that he think it would be cool if he fought his cool machines? I would assume maybe
i know his whole purpose is research and im assuming he saw us as a viable test subject
he has a lot of lore in the past but i dont see what he does nowadays other than sit in his gaming room and do engineer gaming things
im studying bio sciences in university maybe ill follow his footsteps 
(jk i have morals)
Make the plague out of nanomachines
Also bio sciences is hard as fuck good on you
Wanted to do that until I took a college bio class this year!
Iāll stick with environmental science instead
No chemistry please
Hi lorers
i hate it here š
i shouldve went into business
FBI will be knocking on my door if i recreate goliath that is biological warfare
i think he does have morals, it's just. "Hrrmmmm will this benefit me"
technically morals i think
just use it against them duhh
what are they gonna do if you build xp-00 hypnos in your garage
send the irs
Dynamo Stem Cells
As if to fill the golden void that once housed their ancestorsā spiritual resonance, these offshoots entwine natureās physical power with their own. Harvested from the leader of a patrolling thunder, this organ is used by follies to focus the electrifying wrath of their wingbeats into the scarlet bolts of oblivion that smite ill-starred prey.
was thinking about something stip said recently and then this came to me
only a placeholder entry though because I kind of just ignored the whole stem cells thing
Correct me if Iām wrong, but⦠is every canonical romance interspecies? Not that thereās many of them.
cirrus and stylist
I guess Braelor and Statis from the mod lore are both humans? But then thereās the mechanic and tinker, plus the zoologist has a crush on the witch doctorā¦
Also isnāt the stylist more likely to use the dryad chat emote than any other?
yeah
the stylist and dryad are more likely to emote about each other
the wiki hilariously notes "it is unknown why this is the case"
š³ļøāš
but also supposedly the dryad is a tree or something and not a human
Yes, and?
The vines are part of her body
Wait guys how does Betsy fit into calamity lore
Or does she just not
I mean Betsy already technically isnāt from Terraria
Okay
Cause I was gonna say sheās a dragon
I feel like you could fit her into the lore it would just have to be basically the same as it is in Vanilla, sheās not of this universe
Because in vanilla the entire old oneās army comes to your universe
From the universe of wherever tf Dungeon Defenders 2 takes place
Having things from other universes ruins lore by making anything possible
yeah the devs would rather not involve universe travel
Actually valid point
since then you'd question "why isnt draedon holding them as experiments in a lab trying to get to another dimension"
cause you KNOW he would
Theyāre very evasive
I would love for everything possible to have a canon explanation
Like thereās no way to contain them in game, trust me Iāve tried, they will just phase through anything they want
Walls? What are those
I see your point though
Maybe a place thatās still in universe but off planet? But again that would be confusing because DD2 does not happen in the same universe as Terraria Iām pretty sure
Yeah Iām thinking through it and making it non-canon probably was for the best
It could be the work of a summoner
All the creatures are summons
And so not fully real
The problem with that is again the old oneās army is entirely from another game
So now youāre conflicting with that gameās lore
You know what fair enough
But I would love to have a Draedon conversation where heās just raging at the fact that inter planetary travel is right under his nose but he canāt study it
Because the goblins and company canāt be contained
Also on topic technically, I love cheesing the ooa
You mean inter-dimensional?
Yeah
Cause inter-planetary's only blockade is the Astral Infection all over space
^ I was assuming this tho because I think if ooa became canon it wouldnāt be from another dimension
Multiverse is really hard to pull off properly
because you can't really operate a spaceship right if the spaceship has been integrated into & manipulated by a malevolent cosmic virus
But yeah it would be interesting to see but I donāt think weāllsee it
Yes but letās assume for a second that the ooa became canon and it was from another planet, they donāt use a space ship they just use a portal
OOA could be from the same planet
Where
on a different contineant
Yeah thatās true
because the eintierty of Calamity is set on one part of one contineant
Also what would Betsy be
could very well be an offshoot
More dragon related things
You're dragon related
well he is moon lord
Also why did Yharim never send the Devourer to finish off Silva
Worm too scared of water
Because he didnt know she wasn't 100% dead?
Because silva still wouldnt have died
Also the Planty Mush showing up in the Abyss is a very recent development
Do we know when she died
Screw you both Iām going with this one lol
Lmao
Worm canāt swim
Worm afraid of other scarier worm
well when all of the water is going into massive worm mouth & drowning him probably yeah
I donāt think he can drown
He has spiracles
Likely
if anything, heād teleport all the water and make it Noxusās problem
He would give noxus a bath
Stinky noxus
bro gonna turn the abyss into a valley
it'll be like Illmeris all over again
drainken sea
Profaned meatballs time
Coral highlands
The drank sea

The
Uh
Guys idk how to tell you this
But the abyss and sunken sea are not the same
We know
You're the same
Rotten Vale is more accurate iirc tbh ngl imo
In that case Draedon would probably try to research the portals, it's not interdimensional travel but travel to somewhere without having something physically lead to it, such as wire-even if it's limited to something already placed like an Eternia crystal-seems like something he's interested in
Considering his biology is entirely different, good chance no
Who is Yharim and how powerful is he
Hello lore
Genocidal but very charismatic maniac that caused the deaths of 300 million people (20% of the global population) and is the person speaking in the lore items dropped by bosses, the Godseeker
They are THE strongest person to have walked the planet without ascending and overall the 3rd strongest person we know
The planned final boss
Ok yeah melon gun explained it better
Hai
Haiii
Melon can you tell me more about your player guy
For calamity
You mentioned they had a whole bunch of robotic parts
Unless that was someone else
God 2 but with more major genocide basically
Closer to fantasy hitler i think
Heās just a really strong dude
weird way to put it but i like it
And yeah basically giga hitler
Their heart got shot out by artemis close to the end of the exo fight so draedon gave them a mechanical replacement which is what the draedons heart accessory is
May have forgot but i dint think they get more mechanical replacements other then drae heart
Ohhh alr alr
Also until post scal they are pro yharim
Wow our characters are really similar
my man did not play the game
And also generally a bit of a prick for a while
fym bruh, he's not even in the game and there's barely any mentions of him
????
He has like
The most dialogue in the game
At first sheās a d1 yharim hater but she slowly gets manipulated by him because sheās lonely and Yharim is the only one whose practically seen all of her journey
give me an example of a yharim dialogue, like the most popular.
All of the lore items
Requiem
Prelude
Cynosure
Literally all of them are yharim talking
how are u even meant to know that if you're not told directly
Every lore item is from his perspective
& every lore important character mentions him at least once
context clues
ehhh k
besides his name, but that's from other sources like the bestiary
The only mention of yharim in the game that i know of is yharim's gift
If you read other peoples descriptions of him then look back at the lore dialogues you can connect the dots
He is a topic you talk ti draedon about
Draedon directly mentions him multiple times
In draetalk
the cryogen bestiary entry for instance
mentions yharim ordering Calamitas to execute permafrost
Imma be honest i didnt pay attention to his dialogue š„
and yharim is shocked about permafrost being alive in the cryogen whisper
the issue is most people dont read the bestiary
Oh yeah ship of theseus like 3 times over
Physically and soully
Ooooohhhh cool
I mean there's having fun and then reading lore, i like lore but like, cmon, i want to fight a cosmic, god devourer worm, not reading how yharim commanded calamitas to seal away cryo
its not for everyone, i get it
thats why its not forced on you

you can just completely ignore it
then why are you here bro 
i just wanted to ask who yharim was, i've seen tiktoks bout him

plus i said i like lore but i still prefer playing the game
he's gonna be a boss eventually anyway so he will be way more obvious
yeah in 40 years probably 
Got god infected after wof and so had to tear off and replace their flesh and bone with the walls just so they wouldnāt get overtaken (explenation for demon heart)
Moonlord almost completely shattered their soul and so they had to make a new one with basically moonlords (explenation for celestial onion)
Polter also did a number on their soul and they had to make yet another replacement
Exos result in heart loss
Scal burns off their arm and this results in the whispering maelstrom attack for the fight, she gives them a prosthetic arm (the calamity accessory)
All in the timespan of around 8 months iirc
They experience
The horrors
Wow!
They had a lot of fun
What do they look like after all these fun and joyous experiences
and i thought my OCs had some rough battlesā
Oh and yharim broke most of their weapons (like may have had to use cosmilite gear at the end), torn off their jaw and inverted their knee caps so hard the legs below the knees just
Detatched
Yharim shots fired thatās diabolical
i read "torn" as "turned" and thought he just like
flipped a switch on their throat and turned off their mouth or something
Lmao
One of the worst injuries my character gets is getting impaled by one of dogs outer mandibles. She only manages to survive by severing it last minute and then completes the fight with a piece of mandible in her torso
Nothing compared to replacing her flesh though
Thatās awesome
for one of my OCs, the people she's around frequently get hurt more than her tbh
king slime fight kills off a third of the village because someone had the bright idea of using flaming arrows after a slime rain š„

Fucking idiot
If my oc values anything itās the buildings that shes manage to construct. She will protect those things with her life
(I love to build in terraria)
One of the notes I have for the entry Iāve written for king slime is that it took her weeks to get all the slime out of her hair
Because with the way that Iāve drawn her hair
Itās super thick
And thereās a shitton of it
Slime god and queen slime seem
Like a big pain
Building is so fun
Exactly
true....
Slime god snaps her only horn in half
That really pissed her off
Nooo
Thatās why in every hardmode drawing of her she has a sliver band on her horn
She was only born with one and it got snapped š

ive posted the prehardmode design of her hold on
lemme forward it
nvm did not post it here! hold on
o
i just did
oughhhhh that's peakk
Is dog a nose or a mouth breather
It has a nose so probably through the nose then
privately he breathes through his nose but publicly he breathes through his mouth to annoy people
btw who are the martians
from mars presumably
they have very advanced tech but seemingly no "primitive" magic whatosever - magic seems to have two directions it can develop - one is "pure" magic, in the form of spellbooks and staves and wands and such, the other is integrated into advanced technology like the space gun or laser minigun
which is interesting
Magic and tech can go hand in hand so they may have just advanced tech and magic in a way that caused them to be synonymous even more so (theory)
Also yeah they are aliens, their planet has little resources and try invading for some iirc though thats just dev statements i think
I like how most of the bosses are retrofitted to fit thematically and then the events are just like. "and then the Santa Claus mech shows up"
Frost moon and pumpkin moon aint canon due ti being reference content
Same for the enemies in the eclipse
Except mothron iirc
yeah but. there's still also just
The santa machine
"and then aliens/goblins/pirates" lole
they all have something in common
you have power and resources
they want power and resources
the goblins are a warband out to raid your settlement, the pirates are literally pirates
phase 1 is a melancholic piano version of Yharon's theme, phase 2 is a major key synthwave version, phase 3 is that in addition to undercurrents of permafrost, exomechs, scal and dog
ultramoment
holy shit like a church organ would go hard
you approach and he's just sitting before this gigantic organ machine playing a version of his own boss theme
gaberel
gabriel is very yharimesque
how
believes he has a higher mission, did a genocide, is a psychotic murderhobo
at least gabriel seemingly get just a tad better
though with nightmare fabrications fast approaching, i cant wait to see more yharim theme interpretations pop up
rn my favorite's gotta be the yomi hustle one (despite it not being done)
Yeah while i'd say there are surface similarities between their characters, ultimately they are two very different beasts
Yharim is a nostalgic, forlorn man who looks upon himself as a tragic hero, while he sees a downfall he doesn't understand it began much earlier than he thought it did, while he did not accomplish his mission, he got really close, & ultimately believes it was a righteous one, no matter what
He has a sense of morality, at the least, after the shroud of hatred the Crusades cleared from his mind, he felt seemingly truly sorry about what he did to his subordinates (Calamitas & Permafrost)
(heavy emphesis on the "looks upon himself as"
(he doesnt, he just wants to get sympathy so you'll be more receptive)
Kind of an out there assumption to make
bro is rotten to the core (except bees)
Well he may be a bit sad on calamitasā end
Idk about perma
he tried to have permafrost killed
That's an interpretation that makes his character alot less interesting
i think i remember a dev mentioning that he doesn't actually believe all the genocides and war crimes and such were actually, genuinely morally good
what he does believe is that it was justified
Remember this is the guy that despite what he was taught & raised for his whole life, stood up against a cruel system when it demanded him to slaughter & co-alesce with a bound & beaten dragon's soul
He does definetly have some sense of morality
He threw aside Godhood because he believed it unjust & he burned for it
i never said he has some core morals
He gets hyper royally pissed at slavery
Hmmmmmm
bad people can still have some morals
Hmmmmmmmmmm
wow really who'd have thunk
unneeded sarcasm aside, he very much did get absolutely livid at draedon for what he made
hitler was a vegan animal rights activist
Doesnāt he literally want us to kill him (not without a fight) because he feels bad about what he did?
Uh no he just thinks we want to fight him
To go blow to blow with a legendary emperor
not really
he wants to fight us to make sure we're worthy of being passed the torch basically
yea
What torch heās a bum
yhargle's gonna drop dead any day
the god-killing torch
he wants us to finish the crusade cause he clearly cant anymore
Funniest thing is we're probably gonna
Heās a bum
Maybe not actually kill the Traitor Almighty but we have certainly been on clean-up
a bum who slaughtered 20% of the population
That was pre bum era
don't we basically kill every killable god anyways? what's left of the crusade???
it's about his anti-god ideology
he doesn't just want gods dead, he wants religions venerating gods dead
he's a slowly dying bum now and therefore wants someone else to do the shit he used to do before
note how he's fine with the dragon cult but sics flame thrower troops on random temples
Yeah he wants us to finish the Crusade, to do the impossible & kill Xeroc
Canāt wait to end that bum
plus, we only kill the gods of one continent
who knows what others are left out there
or even what gods are just beyond our reach permanently
Ye
also, yeah, xeroc potentially
I'm pretty sure those are the last two
he doesnt know we're completely out of xeroc's league
Like I don't think gods are restricted by continents
i mean, we managed to reach him in strength in a ridiculously short amount of time
nor was the crusade
like, if a god chose to hide in space or inside the sun or in the core of the planet you can't really go and kill it
compared to the century it took him
Nope
well last two that can be killed I meant
idk i think escaping to the less fucked continents makes more sense than sticking in the heartlands
Ok fighting a god in the sun sounds awesome ngl
I could do it
could go a bit lovecraftian with the core of the sun being an elder machine
I mean I don't think the SG and Providence really stick exclusively to the heartlands either
clockwork and cogwheels spinning through the shimmering plasma
like they go to the heartlands to kill us y'know
okay? and im saying that maybe some gods are specifically hiding on other continents
especially providence
provi and slime god are always on the move
theres nothing stating they're the actual last gods left
fair enough
just that they were especially evasive
but there's nothing stating that ain't the case either
Noxus is probably still alive no?
He is but he aint a god
yh those gods which were the type to meet someone in open combat or seek out fights are probably long dead
yeah
schrodinger's gods
the ones we fight are specially The most evasive
he is a god in wrath of the gods but thats an addon and therefore not canon
plus that wont be noxus soon so
nameless deity and the evil robot gunther
Noxus is transitioning?
yes.
he puts on a fake mustache and glasses and calls himself Nexus
Proud of them
noxus more like not sus
Noxus should be troll face
The two things that would solve this debate forever would be a canon number of Dragons & a canon number of Gods Yharim killed
That would be helpful
i think silva and the unnamed god of sacrifices are the two canon kills
Silva cant die
Or did i misreadā¦
i mean she's not doing too hot
god of Gravity
Dragons were around 3 K
probably gonna be stuck in the abyss for like 10000 years or something
She has already been in the abyss before and wasnt a goddess back then so eh
oh
And that was below 2K years ago
Did yharim manage to get illmerisās gods?
I mean I would sssume so since the whole place got torched
Otonilou directly died in combat against scal iirc
Tyrian is almost certainly dead but we dunno for sure iirc
About the God conumdrum, obviously SG and Providence aren't the last two alive
It'd be fucking insane that Yharim only left out TWO Gods alive in the entire planet
And you just so happened to make those two guys angry enough to fight you
If you want my opinion, I think Yharim killed about 90% of all the Gods
hi rebecca
we were just minding our own business post ml
How many gods are there that we know of?
Was thinking it was closer to 95-99 honestly
He definitely almost wiped the slate clean but there was a good stretch left
I mean, think about Ilmeris, they were in the heartlands and were a target for dozens of years and Yharim only managed to break through them when Calamitas got around
Xeroc
Silva
Providence
Shakidou
Tyrian
Otonilou
God of sacrifices
(Blood god is a maybe iirc)
Slime god
rebecca can I ask a question about the gods?
May forgot skme
Fair
Now imagine about the places Yharim only got to late in the Crusade, who had time to ready their defenses, and by that point his army was already spread thin
And DoG can't go to the other side of the world in a day 
Yeah
were there any that had sky cities similar to chrysadia?
Can't say for certain
oh mb
But I wouldn't say it was impossible
thanks
I doubt itd be to the scale of chrysadia but i do think sky island type things would have been replicated before
why is everybody dogshit at teleporting
They clearly donāt know how to make a RoD farm
Even RoD cant tp that far
Spam it 
The RoD uses primordial light, thats prob why
how does homie have portals between folds of reality. and can't use them to teleport across the planet
I didnāt realize you could talk to Draedon once you defeat the Exo mechs lotta lore stuff in there
Also they are extremely unstable
DoG can't even keep them up for that long 
Yup
And he is the second most reliable source of info so yeah id say they are rarely wrong if ever on the subjects talked about
Meanwhile its boss has kept Ceaseless open for at least a couple thousand years
Yo Rebecca, why does the slime god jump us again?
Long story
Has ceaseless been in the dungeons this whole time, even before DoG came from the distortion?
I get confused bc heās one of the sentinels but how would they get to our world
The Sentinels as a concept do not exist anymore, Void is not related to DoG pretty much
I'm guessing #1 is bestiary
Yes
#1 is google doc 
Ceaseless is a portal older then DoG, older then the dungeon
man all this talk about other continents makes me sad we'll never see em
whats storm weaver's relation to dog? draedon says they're similar in shape but different in most everythiung
storm weaver just snuck through the same distortion portal that dog came through
and he's just been dining on wyvern and harpy ever since
ohhhhhh thats why he jumpscares you in hardmode
Thats infernum only
Surprising honestly
Since infernum is based more on old lore
i kinda wish we had more stuff about permafrost and calamitas' father/daughter bond tbh
oh nice
I hope the Jelly Preistess gets some more lore importance
Who?
She's a neat character & I feel like there's alot to do with someone who came from the Sulphurous Sea
the girl who sells blocks?
Thats from calval iirc
A not official addon
oh fr?
Yeah whoever that is, not a basecal thing
fucked up
These are the only 5
Not going to look ima guess them all
Cirrus
Bandit
Permafrost
Calamitas
Amidias
Yes
you forgot john wulfrum
I will remove half your hair
I head canon that pylons are a early developed tool made to help beat this constraint of the extra harmful wildlife and the once per biome thing is a problem of it being a relatively newly developed stuff and not able to differentiate between different biome pylons yet
Is it like something you canāt talk about or just a lot to explain
Can't talk
The player goes on a diet but the Slime God is morally opposed to that and tries to kill you
Ahhh
Wow
Slime god hates salad
I think it's the fact the Terrarian barely eats anything at all
most Terrarians are either starvation pilled or on a 100% seafood diet
never used it in my life
i think the terrarian only eats seafood
if they ever eat
that's why there's barely any other types of food that we can craft
that's why the slime god hates them
they don't enjoy a balanced nutritionally rich diet
insane
Terrarian on a strict sashimi diet
Hey sometimes I make apple pie
Terrarian could also eat a shitton of fruit
Since it drops from the tree
Fruit salad!
Or the uh
Golden whatever the fuck itās called
Or bacon
Thereās also lotsa spaghetti!
Reminds me of Eddie spaghetti my goblin npc⦠he got killed by either the exo mechs or calamitas i forgot
I cried that day
I do all my end-game bossfights in my comically large jungle arena
Yeah maybe I shouldnāt have put my arena near all my npcs
wait a minute
Calamitas British Accent
did she get that from Azafure or living among Yharim's top brass?
No Azafure is too hot to be equivalent to Britain
As we all know the English begin to melt at temperatures exceeding 30°C
i can see azafure having some london parallels so im gonna guess azafure
Its the equivalent of london
The underworld is all of britain
The terrarian is english
-# and thus so are you
No way
also what?
The fucks being comprehensible
THE TERRARIAN IS YOU BTW
imo the terrarian is terrarian
And the terrarian is you
Imo the terrarian is a yoyo
why is silva in the fandom built like some monster girl
what
explodes you with my mind
don't use total calamity as real...
Total calamity wiki is some rp wiki thing and nowhere near official
Silva is goals
gender envy - The Character
what the hell are these pins
the button that looks like a pin
You can find her official concept art in #lore-discussion message this google doc
are you on mobile
Not google doc
nah man
Oh well
they look weird
It's tragic how they exist 
?
yeah some of the pins are jokes
but the one with character references is what I meant
new meth strain spreading through New Mexico called Ascension
Special recipe by this guy named Xeroc
very convicing post
The memes in the pins
ik
i practice ascension with my kids
what
3)!4,7!:āwoeok
it's me
Yeah
The terrarian is YOU
no, it's not you, it's me
Exactly
Its you
there are so many memes with a black dude you have no idea how little that narrows it down
The Terrarian is Mine Mine Mine Mine Mine!
the one where he talks about being naked in front of his kids
if i send the link im lowkey gonna get banned
Nonononnononono you're confused. It's not you, It's ME
It was a very popular format like
yeah just like "the meme with the Asian woman" you know that's just. a type of person right. you're saying the meme with the person
i cant believe i was about to graduate highschool and now i have to fight yharim
3 years ago
yeah
strange user
uh
whats yharon's favourite food
so anyway
based tbh
who told you that
probably like rabbits or something
dead gods
nobofdy i made it up
yharon and yharim are fundamentally opposed on the issue of bees
how so
storm weaver eats harpies
Also I was thinking about doing an "abyss'd" design for Silva
devourer eats gods
as a purely fun hypothetical
providence does photosynthesis idk
it's just the idea of yharon liking honey
and the joke that yharim likes bees
Nope
did dragons eat each other
y'know like have some of the eidolon worm imagery come in there, damaged
I think I could cook with this
Uh . no?
Im not saying its me? Im saying the terrarian is YOU
Eat the local tree or something
Big animals exist and not all dragons would be yharon sized
whalefall
waterfall undertale
yk like those tall dinosaurs?
brachiosaurus?
Idk, trees are big and plant and stuff
Seems maybe filling
exactly
because know
protein
maybe not for animals
they are sentient beings with morals most od the time probably
but also dragons aren't really animals
At most I could see a very desperate Dragon of Gluttony consuming dragon corpses near the end of the Great Hunt
even humans used to eat each other š
the same vein where humans are technically animals yes but it's Different Okay?!?
Used to
still do actually i've seen some hikers get it
it wasnt common place
woah there
okay don't
what
Yeah that's going a bit far
not touching this convo with a 10 foot pole

Fair enough
basically, no
so uhm
the dragons
unlike the gods
had some sense of understanding between one another
even if they hated each other
The dragons were more organised then gods
nope
Thats a plant and it appears after yharon the last dragon is dead
Yeah the Crusades would have never worked out if the Gods were actually a united front & not basically a bunch of tiny in-fighting factions vying for believers & power
54 - Renamed Dragonfruit to Sacred Strawberry. - Done ā
Oh right
also the other dragonfruit
the one that you get in the hollow
is only named after a real fruit
did they rename the blood orange?
yes
Why would they?
ah
wait why did they
which can alternatively be called pitaya
vanilla items of the same name
Overlapping vanilla names
^
š
39 - Renamed Blood Orange to Sanguine Tangerine. - Done ā
40 - Renamed Elderberry to Tainted Cloudberry. - Done ā
41 - Renamed Rune of Kos to Mark of Providence. - Done ā
all of these will come next update btw
why the rune of kos?
ah
mark of providence shouldn't even be used to summon the 3 rok bosses
since they have no ties to dog any longer
Alright lore chat if there was exactly one additional boss you would want to get added (not including the already planned ones) who would it be
planty mush
Honestly
None
none, there's too many already
^
Planty Mush
Maybe it's just the Distortion & it's entities are inherently attracted to Godly Essence
i'd kill calclone, cryogen, folly, and AS as bosses
Okay but
one's a portal
cal clone no š
another is just an animal
Ones a portal and one is equal to noxus and smart enough to just
Not
she has so much potential
screw you
I think cal clone can work
Cal Clone is a way better fight than Brimstone Elemental
not until the rework
Brimmy is getting reworked:/
when brimmy goes from awful to interesting
Im crags overhaul
you good there
C.C is already goated
she's my favourite character & it's based eintierly upon my personal interpretation of her psychological situation
& also she can be used as a really strong tool for characterizing Calamitas prime more
No way
They really need to get calclone out of that musty old eye mech sometime
?
they turned Calamitas into a prime soul š
Hopefully crag overhaul
Greg overhaul
I always interpreted it as like a sensory deprivation tank
They also did that to skeletronš
Its meant tk be a life supports iirc
filled with dreadon juice to stop her from imploding from brimstone magic
No they did that to Lunatic Cultist, DoG, and Yharon
Though the proposed redesign goes way harder I will be real
NOT THEM ASWELL

Is that redesign art of the massive skull with her inside it sourrounded by screaming souls fanart?
all we know is
- is a clone of calamitas
- probably has a mechanical shell
scrapped
I think GGG is reffering to that old one

scal deserves to have all of the cool stuff
Calclone deserves some poridge
But the constructs are such an important part of C.C's character
They represent a desperate attempt to salvage a recreation of memories that aren't hers, the one thing she knew provided stability throught Calamitas's early years
she longs for that companionship to become her own, to have someone to protect her
But all she could manage are bizzare fauxsimilles that resemble them only in the names they were given, lacking any of the soul that animates the revived Cataclysm & Catastrophe that fight by Supreme Calamitas'd side
You've made a compelling argument, but, counterpoint
Compelling counterpoint.
Why couldn't this all be conveyed through dialogue and maybe even item tooltips, rather than adding a whole nother brimstone-themed boss
Okay
What?
Because we shouldn't have another character that is referenced purely in lore items & dialouge when said character already exists & is a fun part of the game that preludes & sets up to one of the hardest bosses in an engaging way by essentially letting you fight a weakened version of them?
Also because Raw, Unfiltered Calamity fucking ROCKS
If only ruc fit the lore of calclone
im gonna kill you
So whereās exo golem
it's gonna be the next for the worthy secret boss after LORDE
Setting up calamitas by making a fight that acts like a prototype version of her is neat
robot boss economy
I suggest you go swim in toxic waste.
No
That being undying flame providence
But I still think it's boring in practice
You're just a hater
Yeah we need a not boring in practice one
i am a hater
Nobody appreciates the artistry of Calamitas Clone & the depth of her character
If calclone so good where calclone 2

Cal clone just feels like a plot device rather than an actual character
thats supreme calamitas
Yes
And Make her jump on you
And is now an astral infection boss

yeah I'm done already
fast chef
WAIT
Replace all of her attacks
with Planty Mush
Cinema
Why
it will fix the game
planty mush
Masculine elementals when
throw a gender changing potion at them
Lol
Lmao
EleMENtal real
earth elemental:
not real smh