lore-discussion

[dusk laurel]

Doesn't need to

Also not its natural habitat

Which became part of the desert

[azure galleon]

storm weaver and Devourer are the same species, so there is a species- we just don't know it

[dusk laurel]

Nah

They are not part of the same species

[azure galleon]

His lore says they are

Unless it's outdated-

[indigo glade]

There is more than one source of lore...

[azure galleon]

Specifically storm weavers, in game

[mighty zenith]

yharim is not good at biology

[azure galleon]

what about draedon

[mighty zenith]

he IS good at biology

[dusk laurel]

Draedon says no

[mighty zenith]

and therefore can clearly tell theyre different species

[azure galleon]

then nevermind-

[pliant ruin]

do note the "lore items" are not from some omniscient character and r from yharim and thus r subject to misinformation or bias

theyre being reworked futurely to be direct communication with yharim through a Rock

[azure galleon]

i'll take note of that-

i barely read them anyways

[indigo glade]

(Maybe.)

[late veldt]

facetiming with the guy who's gonna murder you

[pliant ruin]

not ifi murder him first

[late veldt]

but. how would you murder him. without being the player

Its unavoidable

[pliant ruin]

yeah im just gonna nohit him

shrimple?

[dusk laurel]

Kills you

[late veldt]

oh

I was moreso talking about

[pliant ruin]

thats mean

[dusk laurel]

Okay

[late veldt]

(Yharim) facetiming with the guy who's gonna murder you (Yharim)

[dusk laurel]

I'm sorry

[pliant ruin]

oh wait

of course

my bad gang

i thought you meant we were facetiming with the guy whos gonna murder You

[late veldt]

yeah

easy misunderstanding

Both are gonna murder each other quite frankly

[scenic olive]

Yharim pre-DoG vs Current Yharim but he lost his left arm

who would win

[stark basalt]

how old is calamitas

[split mortar]

27-28 i think

Late twenties

[pliant ruin]

shes almost 10 years older than me damn

[stark basalt]

whats "reign of yharim" is this a new update

[split mortar]

Its a calamity fangame

[dusk laurel]

fange

[split mortar]

Fuck you

[stark basalt]

fange

[split mortar]

Fuck you

[dusk laurel]

[stark basalt]

😍

[split mortar]

:/
ew

[stark basalt]

big mistake...

anyway

a game or a mod?

[split mortar]

Fangame

As in

Fangame

Not mod

[stark basalt]

what is it gonna look like

[split mortar]

It has a server
Ask cheese for a invite theyre a dev

[stark basalt]

🧀

[pliant ruin]

reign of yharim mentioned when im not even here

crazy

[wheat walrus]

With this sacred roytalk I summon

[pliant ruin]

roy is like the monster hunter to my omni

[stark basalt]

lol you know mh?

[dusk laurel]

you should name yourself reign of yharim

[pliant ruin]

ok

[stark basalt]

...

[pliant ruin]

most ppl here do

[stark basalt]

autism

[sleek halo]

wild evem

[pliant ruin]

its truly wild that such events have risen to occasion on this world we live in

[wheat walrus]

Ahahahhahahah

[split mortar]

Omni has gone on giant rants about it here

[sleek halo]

giant is

not enough to deacribe

[dusk laurel]

titanic

[stark basalt]

bro plays mh frontier

😭

what are you gr999

[pliant ruin]

ravienteous

[wheat walrus]

I did play it a bit but due to lack of motivation to play I kinda just stopped playing and when I returned my save file didn't exist

however

I do know quite a bit about Frontier

I just inform myself on MH stuff as a whole regardless of if I can play it or nah

[split mortar]

Omni also the local powerscaler

[stark basalt]

ooooh

i remember you

[wheat walrus]

🧑‍🔬

[stark basalt]

i was here before

[wheat walrus]

wait what

[stark basalt]

you were comparing fatalis with calamitas

[wheat walrus]

ooh yea I used to

[split mortar]

Fatalis shitstomps the entire verse afaik

[wheat walrus]

their names sounded familiar, and both names had funky origins

so

my brain started braining

they also destroyed kingdoms so my brain locked in on that

[pliant ruin]

calamitas vs rajang

my money is on calamitas on this one tbh

i was thinking of a funnier monster but all i could think of was rajang

[stark basalt]

nah rajang mogs

[wheat walrus]

this is the second time I hear Rajang being thrown against a super powerful girlboss today

[pliant ruin]

rajang is like low elder level right

i feel like cal could take that

[stark basalt]

hes not an elder

[wheat walrus]

Rajang hunts down Kirin, but it also fights monsters like Kushala Daora and Teostra

[stark basalt]

he eats elders tho

y

[wheat walrus]

in a way, Rajang is kinda like Nergigante

[pliant ruin]

hes not an elder but im talking abt the strenght level

id say hes like

about on par with stuff like kushala

and i think cal could take those guys on

[stark basalt]

naaah

[pliant ruin]

id say thats reasonable

[stark basalt]

kushala is op

[wheat walrus]

MHWI Divebook even compares Furious Rajang to Nergigante in terms of being able to beat up elder dragons, and even reveals a new term called "Super Elder Dragon Level" for the above average stuff (like Kushala)

[pliant ruin]

arent kushala, chameleos and teostra all on the same level

am i misinformed

[wheat walrus]

yea no Kushala Daora, aside from doing the Storm Weaver weaving storm stuff quite casually, is seen in cutscenes just being able to either cleanse or darken entire skies

[wheat walrus]

yes they're a trio

[stark basalt]

no

[pliant ruin]

whats ur source for them not being on the same level

[wheat walrus]

well ig if you look at it that way they aren't exactly the same level

but they are effectively a trio

[pliant ruin]

also this isnt really very calamity lore to be fair

we should like move to general or smth

[wheat walrus]

and they have the countering eachother's elements stuff

yea

[split mortar]

Wait how the fuck did draedon make ranged arsenal gear if he can barely use magic rn

[sleek halo]

obvviously permaforst help3d…

[dusk laurel]

gulp...

[scenic olive]

whats the first time? Maleina?

[split mortar]

Yeah melania blade of miquella

[scenic olive]

[wheat walrus]

Yes

Mentioned it in general chat

[wheat walrus]

also uh check dms there's a funny thing i think

[dusk laurel]

sscls recruiting

[wheat walrus]

no way?!

[dusk laurel]

idfk

I just guessed

[wheat walrus]

the military is recruiting! recruit the military into your life now!

[split mortar]

I thought they were in sscls and just never chatted

[wheat walrus]

everyone is in sscls if you see the world with a completely 4dimensional view

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

, in time all will enter sscls i guess

[wheat walrus]

yep

[void zealot]

S-Cal trying to be a bitch cause she wont drop Heresy, so I have to kill her ass 8 times

[split mortar]

Lorous

[robust osprey]

loreful

[late veldt]

How does auric ore determine who's 'worthy'? why does Yharim still have access after killing literally everybody?

[strong notch]

it's basically

no auric soul detected? - rejected

[late veldt]

also how'd he get auric ore if there's none in the heartlands before we kill Yharon? is there some in the dragon's aerie or something?

[fair vortex]

**What a story, truly.

I feel as if there are things that need to be explained.

The engineer described you with over-exaggeration far too great for your own good.
You are no unknown catalyst. You are part of this story.

Your will to shape the world as you see fit is simply a lesser anomaly. All things considered, you are but a pawn.

Seek out the Dragon Aerie.

Proceed.**

[thick slate]

why can't draedon be real

i want to be friends with him

[sudden ruin]

draedon gpt

[strong notch]

man i need giant war machines, plague and irradiated sea devastating landscape irl

[dusk laurel]

Practically, anything that touches it

[strong notch]

but it's all worth it if it means meeting Draedon

[thick slate]

thats literally already happened

[dusk laurel]

Yharim can use it since he's attuned to an auric dragon

[thick slate]

also yes

hes so cool

[strong notch]

the coolest dron in terraria

[split mortar]

Because he is attuned to yharon

Even draedon gets rejected iirc

[thick slate]

im attuned to yharon

[dusk laurel]

Coke Yharim arc???

[thick slate]

yep

time to kill gods

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-kratos-dance-god-of-war-dance-kratos-dancing-gif-18176607383846173498

[strong notch]

I wonder if attunement can work on two people at the same time

or is it just one person per time

if it's just one person then how would it work on conjoined twins

[split mortar]

Attunement is soul based not genetics
So conjoined twins would not be a problem i imagine

[thick slate]

TWINS?

[strong notch]

unless conjoined twins have two different souls

for each brain/mind

[thick slate]

they do

id imagine

[split mortar]

Thats what im suggesting

The attuned soul gets free auric touching

The not attuned twin explodes

[strong notch]

and then they both die

man it's hard to be attuned to a dragon as a conjoined twin

[thick slate]

what about

conjoined dragon

[strong notch]

basically hydra

except two heads

[split mortar]

Would be cool

[thick slate]

no

[mighty zenith]

dragon of bisexuality

[thick slate]

yay

[late veldt]

were there any known dragons that consented to the whole soul eating thing?

[robust osprey]

pretty sure we dont know

but it's a possibility

[late veldt]

were there any gods that retained a humanoid form after ascension?

[faint plank]

xeroc himself

[robust osprey]

I believe zeratros consented xeroc to eat the soul

[magic epoch]

i believe silva had a humanoid form

[robust osprey]

but thats a headcanon afaik

[dusk laurel]

Silva can transform into any lifeform since she's yknow, the elemental of nature

[late veldt]

I was under the assumption we still don't know what he looks like post ascension

[robust osprey]

so she can be a cat

or even jared

jared 2

[faint plank]

iirc the concept art shown is post ascension

[robust osprey]

I think it's pre

[late veldt]

it's pre

[pliant ruin]

otonilou

tyrian (tho to a lesser deegree than otonilou but still p much the same)

[spring helm]

how kind of Yharim to teach Silva how to transform into planty mush

[magic epoch]

Guys I figured out how to kill Silva

[robust osprey]

and those are the dragons of?

[pliant ruin]

not dragons

[spring helm]

storm

[pliant ruin]

gods

[robust osprey]

oh well

[pliant ruin]

they stayed the same

[robust osprey]

gods of

what

[pliant ruin]

from pre-ascencion to post-ascencion

electricity, sea

[robust osprey]

ah

[late veldt]

teleport a bunch of Draedon supernukes?

[magic epoch]

"Why purify the world when you can just blow it up?"

-a wise demolitionist

[faint plank]

demoman tf2 😨

[spring helm]

there may be some collateral casualties there

[robust osprey]

you should kill every living organism, including yourself

[faint plank]

silva revive proc :fearfl:

[magic epoch]

Alternatively, delete your world

[robust osprey]

would blow up the abyss work

[frigid sage]

No

Kill every living thing on the planet

[robust osprey]

would you need to kill draedon to kill silva

[magic epoch]

I do not believe draedon is considered alive

[frigid sage]

Draedon is the only person who could probably kill Silva

[magic epoch]

Draedon is like

God

[robust osprey]

iirc auric still rejects draedon

even if theyre "not alive"

[magic epoch]

Just stand far away? Smh

[robust osprey]

ik but my point is if auric considers it technically a person then it would count as alive

but idk

[cosmic zenith]

While no details are confirmed, I can confirm that it's something that the lore will cover

[cosmic zenith]

You sure about these claims

[sinful adder]

we suspect that xeroc and silva were attuned to their dragons, which would probably require them to agree to it, and we know they both have humanoid forms

[robust osprey]

xeroc have humanoid form?

[dusk laurel]

#lore-discussion message

[robust osprey]

oh

[pliant ruin]

Wasn't that stated before

That basically all that changed on tyrian was Arm Cannon and thats kinda it

unless that was changed or i'm mandela effecting

[cosmic zenith]

That's correct

[spring helm]

arm cannon?

[cosmic zenith]

But you are presenting a statement as factual when what determines how much someone mutates is a subject of speculation currently

[pliant ruin]

fair point

but i mean

actually

i didn't say what determined why they mutated little

i just said they mutated little

which seems to be agreed upon

unless i'm misinformed

in which case my bad gang

[gray tulip]

the drunk princess isn't canon right. like that would be nightmarish.

[indigo glade]

Correct.

All dedicated content is non-canon.

[gray tulip]

didn't know the drunk princess counted as "dedicated content" but i guess that makes sense

[magic epoch]

unfortunately drunk princess not being canon means that stylist is not canonically bi

[spring helm]

Why

[magic epoch]

because drunk princess is the only thing that would make her bi and not straight

[late veldt]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Dryad

The Dryad is more likely to use the Stylist emote than other emotes. It is unknown why this is the case.

In addition, the Stylist is also more likely to use the Dryad emote than other emotes.

[magic epoch]

that is incredibly circumstantial

however

i now headcanon this

thank you

[late veldt]

No problem

That is the only evidence of any sexual orientation from the stylist actually so. not even bisexual just gay

Wait nvm dye trader

[dusk laurel]

Aren't they planning to canonize Drunk Princess by rewritting her dialogue

or like, partially canonize I mean

[cosmic zenith]

That is true, I'm just saying it's not basis for claiming that his ascension was consented

[dusk laurel]

Oh Stip, is the Ringed Beholder still a planned enemy for the update, Triangle mentioned it off-handedly a good minute ago

[cosmic zenith]

It is, yes

It's too interesting to scrap tbh

[dusk laurel]

Wouldn't it be the only octopus enemy in the game

Also btw, if you can share, what biome or biomes will it spawn in

[cosmic zenith]

Yes

[cosmic zenith]

Exclusive to Clam Den

It's quite a cryptic and shady fellow

[dusk laurel]

Thank you

Another Clam Den enemy huh

[sinful adder]

What if the clam den was itself a massive clam

Full of smaller clams

[late veldt]

what if the sunken sea was a clam

what if

what if the world was a clam

[dusk laurel]

Those who know:

Isn't the Sunken Sea already shaped like a clam

[sinful adder]

Yes

It even has a pearl in the middle

(the big sea prism)

[late veldt]

what if your computer was a clam

what if your house was a clam

what if your city was a clam

your country

your world

your solar system

your galaxy

your universe

clam

[robust osprey]

what if planets are just clam's pearls

[late veldt]

[light linden]

vile creature

[cosmic zenith]

You do realize there's only like 3 Clam Den exclusive enemies right

[light linden]

hi stip

[cosmic zenith]

And the others are carried over from Gleaming Burrows

Hi!

[light linden]

been wondering, are providence and slime god extreme cases of imperfect ascension transformations?

[dusk laurel]

Yeah, idk why i didn't expect there to be more

[cosmic zenith]

As far as we've seen, yeah

[cosmic zenith]

It's understandable, since it's not a proper sub-biome

It's a sort of mini-biome within the Burrows

[light linden]

otonilou and the sea god don't look too outlandish in comparison so it made me wonder

[cosmic zenith]

That's pretty intentional

[light linden]

ok ty

[cosmic zenith]

Np!

[late veldt]

Do we know the domain of the dragon that led to the Slime God?

[dusk laurel]

Yea, gluttony

[late veldt]

Yeah makes sense

Dragon of fat fuck

(affectionate)

[pliant ruin]

That wasn't what i was implying so i suppose it was just a misunderstanding

happens

[pliant ruin]

i was replying to this

[late veldt]

how bad could Yharim fuck up homelander

[wheat walrus]

Reasonable ends, Yharim lowk oneshots

Highballing Homelander and pointing out that in the comics they strapped a nuke to him since they didn't know what could kill him js in case, if we assume that Homelander can actually take the nuke then it can range from a slight challenge to an actual worthy opponent to Yharim depending on the nuke's power; but that's just wank imo, no one shows anything comparable to a full+on nuke in The Boys, the outlier is clear

[indigo glade]

Something, something, Homelander loses to Sportacus.

[wheat walrus]

naked weaponless yharim with no attunement low diffs homander fr 🔥

[dusk laurel]

Homelander

More like

[magic epoch]

all of calamity loses to sportacus

[dusk laurel]

Homeran

[dusk laurel]

Sportacus is like boundless

Nothing can bet him if he has an apple

[magic epoch]

doodlebob eraser

[late veldt]

imagining Nameless Deity absolutely getting shit stomped by sportacus now thank you

[wheat walrus]

Yharim before attuning with Yharon and starting the crusade solos too btw

Trust

[magic epoch]

I can solo homelander

[wheat walrus]

No shit?!

I can do that too!

[dusk laurel]

Anyone can

Fraudlander

[magic epoch]

I can beat any fictional character

i have a very good paper shredder

[dusk laurel]

Any fiction can be beaten by simply forgetting about them

[late veldt]

I would beat homelander

poison milk >:3

[magic epoch]

evil milk

[late veldt]

evil milk

why are you quotation marks

[magic epoch]

I might not be amethyst

It is a possibility

You must open the box to see if the cat is dead or alive

[late veldt]

you're quartz?

[magic epoch]

No I'm amethyst

Or am I?

[late veldt]

you're a quartz probably

same reason all squares are rectangles but not vice versa

[gritty kraken]

Can homader beat Rusty draedon body

[magic epoch]

proba ly

[late veldt]

can homemader beat crabulon

[magic epoch]

probably

crabulon is weak to fire

iirc

[wheat walrus]

holmaer loses

[thick slate]

can homedrer beat his wife

[scenic olive]

does dragons produce milk

[latent flower]

idk probably

surely there was like a dragon of milk

so at least one would've

[real silo]

I don't think reptiles produce milk

[split mortar]

Counterpoint

Cool ass dragons that dont obey biology

[humble fog]

platypus when it

[split mortar]

Platypus are weird

[humble fog]

dragon of platypus

[split mortar]

Perry?

[real silo]

You don't obey anything

Smelly

[real silo]

Is platypus even a reptile

That shit has no scales

[light linden]

platypus is an scp

[heavy zenith]

Do we know where the crusades hq was? I assume Azafure right

Before it was destroyed obv

[real silo]

It's nomadic or smth

[robust osprey]

yeah pretty sure it was nomadic

azafure provided some weapons tho afaik

and soldiers

[sinful adder]

Entire world

Oh wait the headquarters

Idk, probably Azafure

[real silo]

you're the entire world

[heavy zenith]

I was just looking and there isn't anything I found that stated when exactly azafure was destroyed. Is it possible that like azafure was destroyed at the end of the crusade

[split mortar]

Azafure is prob the closest to that

Though it was quite nomadic like the mongols iirc

[robust osprey]

when calamitas was around 10

[heavy zenith]

Only that Yharim wasn't there

[sinful adder]

Yes, it was like a decade ago

[split mortar]

It was destroyed by scal and brimmy

Like bit below 2 decades ago

[robust osprey]

around 10 yo Scal vs brimmy destroyed it

[split mortar]

No that was scal leaving

[heavy zenith]

Yeah that would make sense since bestiary says brimmy recently woke up

Thanks

[sinful adder]

The crusade lasted a century and then Azafure was destroyed two decades ago, then the rest of the things happened within the next 20ish years

[sinful adder]

Surely that's more recent, like 5 years

[real silo]

permafrost experienced the blip

5 years gone in what felt like 5 hours

Literally antman

[split mortar]

Dont think so

That would entail she was in her early 20s when she left which i dont think was the case

[sinful adder]

I am pretty sure we already know this to be the case?

Or was it late 20s

[split mortar]

She is in her late 20s right now

[sinful adder]

I'm pretty sure she's in her late 20s now

She would probably have not left before her 20s maybe

[split mortar]

She left shortly after imprisoning permafrost and i thought the imprisoning was a decade ish ago

[light linden]

Been wondering

We have a lot of gods and dragons in calamity but there's next to no mention of any type of giant

Have I missed something or are they not mentioned at all?

[pastel gazelle]

...why would there be giants?

the closest we've got is the (non-canonical) ogre from the old one's army I think.

[light linden]

They're pretty common mythological figures

[split mortar]

Dont think there is any mentions of giants

[sinful adder]

There are no giants

[split mortar]

We made the same typo

[pastel gazelle]

if anything it's more surprising that there aren't any elves.

wait, no, I forgot. There are elves.

[light linden]

We have goblins, dwarves, elves, skeletons, and werewolves

[split mortar]

Counterpoint

World war genocide happened

[sinful adder]

However, a human that took an auric soul the same way the dragons did would have been a titan

[light linden]

But no giants

[split mortar]

Elves?

[pastel gazelle]

zombie elves from the frost moon

[split mortar]

Thats not canon

[light linden]

Empress of Light and the Party Girl are elves iirc

[pastel gazelle]

is the frost moon (which I've decided to start calling the war on christmas) not canon?

[sinful adder]

Correct, it's not

[split mortar]

Idk about part girl and eol is a fairy or pixie in vanilla i think idk about calamity

[pastel gazelle]

I thought the moons were canon. Just... super weird and out of place.

Party girl just has hair dye I think.

[split mortar]

Thats why they arent

Theyre super weird and bring in a lot of shit

[light linden]

Anyways

[split mortar]

Also references to irl atuff

[pastel gazelle]

yes, but the same is true of... most of the rest of Terraria.

The Clothier's dialogue is mostly Forrest Gump quotes.

[light linden]

Y'all think Azafure ever tried mixing Silva's essence with metals while forging?

[split mortar]

Blatent references aint canon

[split mortar]

Uh maybe
Though that may be like seasoning your metal with grass while its molten

[flint ferry]

a meal

[split mortar]

True

[flint ferry]

yumby

[light linden]

Eh

[pastel gazelle]

the relevant term might actually be "doping" which is arguably even funnier

[light linden]

It's essence of an elemental and later a god

I imagine the effects of the latter would prolly be more effective

[split mortar]

By the time she was in the abyss and a god yharim would have rules azafure and so i find the god essence one unlikely

[flint ferry]

is the primordial wyrm edible?

[split mortar]

Yes

Fish

Now

Why would you kill jared

[flint ferry]

hungry

[split mortar]

[flint ferry]

do i eat the DoG instead?

[split mortar]

Unsure of what happens but that guy deserves it

[scenic olive]

a Terrarian does not fear Death

[late veldt]

is Yharim goated with the sauce

[split mortar]

So goated he is the strongest human to touch the earth so far

Even above pre ascension xeroc

[spring helm]

Quirked up auric boy, busting it down Aerie Style

[split mortar]

But is he goated with the dragons?

[fervent gorge]

is the astral infection a god?

[spring helm]

No

It’s like rotten star stuff

Kind of seems like Calamity’s equivalent of a black hole, since it comes from stars getting too big

[fervent gorge]

so is it just like a mega virus with a mind of its own?

[sleek halo]

I think the only ppl other than us who have a potential of surpassing him is

Braelor

& Scal

[spring helm]

Sort of yeah

[sleek halo]

(Draedon isn’t really a person persay so he doesn’t count, even though realistically he absolutely can lol)

I did not

reply

[sleek halo]

meant this

lol

[sleek halo]

Kinda

It seems to have some sort of consciousness

honestly the astral infection is probably the most space cosmic horror eldtrich thing we can get lol

[spring helm]

And the strongest thing to come out of it is a worm boss

[fervent gorge]

i wonder if itll have a larger part in the lore later on (if they have plans for calamity later)

[sleek halo]

that we know of

[spring helm]

Fair

[fervent gorge]

astral slime needs to come back 😔

[sleek halo]

Space is big

[gritty kraken]

Manta ray astrum deus when

[sleek halo]

I kinda imagine a doomsday situation for Terraria as like

If astral infection touched the sun

[gritty kraken]

Ummm actually

[split mortar]

Acts like this but it doesnt seem to be a virus but instead just magic

Meaning if left alone in big quantities mana may just turn into this infectious material that assimilates life it comes across with secrets of the universe

[sleek halo]

Considering that the sun doesn’t seem to be particularly sentient

or well sapient

[fervent gorge]

oh so its mana? that makes a lot of sense actually

[split mortar]

It forms in stars and stars are just mana so yeah

[sleek halo]

Well it kinda seems like

[cloud ibex]

catalyst already exists

[sleek halo]

non living material

[split mortar]

Just uh

Super duper fucked up eldritch mana

[fervent gorge]

so like corrupted mana or smth? corpses of stars cant be just normal mana

[fervent gorge]

right

[sleek halo]

Or well actually

[gritty kraken]

Twisted and evil mana

[sleek halo]

Mana probably is living material

[split mortar]

It forms when the star has “died and bloated” iirc and since brimstone magic can fuck up your mental health, i think astral may just be the extreme of mental fuckup mana stuff though thats my theory

[sleek halo]

Astral infection is so weird cause

it kinda just

breaks the rules

[split mortar]

What rules may i ask?

[fervent gorge]

i wonder how long its been around, how many other worlds its consumed

[sleek halo]

It comes into existence with no seeming prior infection/cause

Yes a star is dying, but to turn into something entirely else is

weird

[split mortar]

Due to being a mana the biome would actually shrink over time

Thought that may super compress the planet and then the universe wouldnt like its space manipulation intensity and may just kabokm the planet…

[sleek halo]

I mean honestly

[fervent gorge]

could be the work of an ancient god, not in the sense of a dragon god thingy, but like a moonlord type thing

[split mortar]

Dont some neutron stars possibly contain strange matter irl?

[sleek halo]

The astral infection probably has taken over planets

[split mortar]

Yeah

[fervent gorge]

idk about zombie star matter

[split mortar]

Im just saying

It could be like that but magic fantasy fucked up idk

[fervent gorge]

yeah that makes sense

[hoary cape]

Strange matter on its way to ruin everything

[sleek halo]

It’s a theory

But not confirmed

[fervent gorge]

idk i wish the infection had more lore

[sleek halo]

because yk we haven’t split a neutron star open

[gritty kraken]

why didn’t we do that

[sleek halo]

I like to imagine because of how large space is

that there’s different strains/forms of astral infection

more tough/infective as others

can overcome that sapient gap

[split mortar]

There is a slight rework on it planned iirc so maybe more may get added

Or npcs talking about it

[fervent gorge]

all i ask is that they properly bring back astral slime

[mighty zenith]

no

[split mortar]

Dev statement
It can infect sapient beings, just needs a lot more astral on them

[mighty zenith]

let geldon stay dead

[sleek halo]

i see

[split mortar]

And you can also give in and it would infect ya

[fervent gorge]

astrageldon was so cool

[mighty zenith]

no it wasnt

[sleek halo]

Let’s hope it doesn’t come back for round 2

[split mortar]

From what i heard

The old geldon in calamity was fucking aids

[mighty zenith]

it was nothing like what catalyst did to it

[fervent gorge]

just a skill issue 💔

[mighty zenith]

LITERALLY nothing

it was king slime that spammed lasers and telefragged you

thats it

thats all it was

[cloud ibex]

as someone who fought og geldon

[fervent gorge]

it was awesome

[cloud ibex]

no lmao

[sleek halo]

Especially now since it knows of Terraria a lot more

[mighty zenith]

your definition of awesome confuses me

[sleek halo]

Since it seemingly gained that information from Deus

[indigo glade]

"Bring back Astrageldon!" -Person who has never fought Astrageldon.

[mighty zenith]

true

[cloud ibex]

i feel slightly bad calling the catalyst boss astrageldon because it feels like a disservice to catalyst

[fervent gorge]

erm i actually played before it gor removed

[mighty zenith]

astrageldon slime for the old calamity version

astrageldon for the catalyst version

surely this wont be confusing

[mighty zenith]

[fervent gorge]

wait whats the catalyst

[gritty kraken]

clueless

[fervent gorge]

basically

[mighty zenith]

addon that restores and completely reworks geldon

[split mortar]

Catalyst addon

[cloud ibex]

catalyst is an addon that adds a purple astral slime boss coincidentally also named astrageldon

[sleek halo]

menwhen astralgeldon infects the chat

[split mortar]

[gritty kraken]

Astralgeldon and goozma canon now real

[mighty zenith]

calamity fans when the worst boss youve ever fought is removed

[fervent gorge]

when was astrageldon removed like gimme a scale of years

[cloud ibex]

2019?

[fervent gorge]

i might not have fought the correct one

[cloud ibex]

i think?

something like that

[indigo glade]

7 years ago.

[fervent gorge]

yeah nope i didnt fight the right one

[indigo glade]

November of 2018.

[cloud ibex]

[fervent gorge]

i probably fought the catalyst version 😭

[sleek halo]

fuck that’s painful to hear

7 years 😭

[fervent gorge]

dont blame me i havent played calamity since 2020

[cloud ibex]

yea i doubt you'd be speaking so fondly of geldon if you fought the original burnt thanos marshmallow

[spring helm]

i've only ever fought the addon version

[fervent gorge]

im gonna go look up a fight of og geldon then give my opinion

[indigo glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYLosco8czI

This is the original Astrageldon fight.

It was King Slime that shot purple and yellow dust at you.

[fervent gorge]

dude that is not cool at all

[split mortar]

Yea thats what got replaced by aureus

[barren sonnet]

King slime that attacks you with seasoning

[sleek halo]

Whilst I personally dislike Aureus

it is better than that lol

[fervent gorge]

that was the lamest thing ever

good thing they replaced it with astrum aureus

[spring helm]

is that the og cloud elemental in the beginning?

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[spring helm]

yikes

[frigid sage]

Calamity players when that boss gets replaced by an objectively better one but they hate it because skill issue:

[void zealot]

Astrum Areaus is good, but Astrageldon despite being hard as balls and making switch my keybinds, was my favorite boss

astrageldon phase 2 is just S-cal fight but done right

[split mortar]

We aint on about the addon fight

The one thats aids is the old calamity fight

[void zealot]

really?

i want to try it, im sure im going to throw my laptop

[split mortar]

Yeah
King slime with telefragging and dust lasers

[split mortar]

You can see the fight here

[void zealot]

that looks boring as fuck

it really is just king slime but purple

[split mortar]

Atleast aureus is unique

And honestly not that bad a fight imo

[languid badge]

aureus is extremely jank

[void zealot]

astrum is cool, but it only gets interesting in its 2nd phase

[mighty zenith]

correct

thats why it was removed

[split mortar]

Garbo
Nuke them

[mighty zenith]

no that'd be @sleek halo

[split mortar]

Ha

Get nuked

[languid badge]

fine, aureus is extremely jank (adjective)

[mighty zenith]

wrong

[void zealot]

id like to see the catalyst astrageldon in calamity, but have its drops be balanced

[mighty zenith]

i dont see the point in that

since like

you literally have to use catalyst with calamity

[void zealot]

mhm

lore wise, it wouldnt make sense

[languid badge]

astralgeldon is a neat boss but I just find the design choices surrounding it to be baffling

[late veldt]

this conversation is confusing as fuck specify which astralgeldon you're talking about 😭

[sleek halo]

Why is this convo still

happening

😭

[split mortar]

Was specified here they on anout catalyst

[sleek halo]

kills u

Garbo change my nickname rn

to aster or I will beat u with hammers

[split mortar]

Change it to gaster

[sleek halo]

ezplodes you

[void zealot]

catalyst astragelson

[mighty zenith]

joke doesnt work now smh....

[late veldt]

Question does your status apply to Aureus and is it platonically or?

[mighty zenith]

of course

my lawyer advises me to say platonically

[late veldt]

your lawyer is cringe kill them

[split mortar]

Idk about platonically but they do like tofus art of deus and aureus yaoi i think

[void zealot]

do you like Aureus before it got atralized or after?

[real silo]

Aureus fans when I show them mauriceus

[split mortar]

Garbo stinks so uh
Prob both

[real silo]

Why did draedon name it aureus if it doesn't even have gold

Is he stupid

[void zealot]

maybe it was gold

[real silo]

Same guy who makes fun of our naming scheme

[void zealot]

astral infection does some funky shit

[real silo]

The hypocrisy

[split mortar]

What does aureus mean???

[real silo]

Something something golden

[dusk laurel]

^

[sleek halo]

ik :3

[manic coral]

For all you know, it maybe DID

[real silo]

new aureus design?

[split mortar]

It had a yellow paintjob

[manic coral]

No

[split mortar]

To stand out against all the purple

[manic coral]

Maybe something else that happened to it

[sleek halo]

it’s covered in astral

[real silo]

Ok why did draedon name it astrum

[manic coral]

He didnt

[real silo]

Did he know it was gonna get infected anyways

[manic coral]

It's astrum aureus NOW that its infected

[split mortar]

The terrarian who notoriously names things

[real silo]

who named it then

[manic coral]

Just like Deus was just. Deus.

Now it's Astrum Deus

[mighty zenith]

damn imagine being called god

[split mortar]

Deus and arues pre infection

[sleek halo]

Knowing Draedon he has an entirely different name

[mighty zenith]

reminds me of a decrepit green guy..

[real silo]

If it was terrarian then how did we know aureus Had gold if we've only seen the post infection version

[sleek halo]

and we were just like

“Astrum Aureus!!!”

[manic coral]

Aureus was already what it was called

[mighty zenith]

the model is called Aureus

[split mortar]

Saw the name printed on it

[mighty zenith]

the name just seemingly lost meaning due to something

[manic coral]

These questions only take a slight amount of imagination to answer

[sleek halo]

yeah

[mighty zenith]

its called golden because it was valuable clearly

[real silo]

I'm messing

[mighty zenith]

[real silo]

it's only valuable to you

[sleek halo]

Titles imo r more interesting than names…

[mighty zenith]

and?

[manic coral]

To be fair

[indigo glade]

Gold is strong. Therefore Draedon used gold. Gold ore gets turned into Astral ore when the Astral Meteor drops. Aureus' gold got infected.

[manic coral]

It's really hard to tell sometimes with this community

[real silo]

Gold is not strong you crazy

[indigo glade]

No.

[mighty zenith]

minecraft taught me gold is dogshit

and minecraft is 101% accurate

[indigo glade]

Goblin Tinkerer tells us gold is good.

[dusk laurel]

G*bby

[real silo]

If gold was so strong why did people not use it for spaceships

[indigo glade]

And the fact that we literally use it as armour and weapons equivalent to platinum...

[manic coral]

I mean irl gold is used in a lot of electronics

[split mortar]

Because no one made spaceships other then aliens who lacked gold

[real silo]

Why did draedon not make aureus out of platinum

Astrum platinus

[indigo glade]

He ran out.

[split mortar]

Budget

[sleek halo]

no way he ran out bro 😭

Draedon running out of any resource other than pike

cosmolite

is crazy

[indigo glade]

He used all the platinum for Armoured Diggers.

[real silo]

Bro had enough money for like 17 metal worms but not enough platinum for one platinus

[split mortar]

And auric

[sleek halo]

Auric is more vast

than cosmolite

but also just worse to work with

so it’s not like he’d want it

[real silo]

It's like magma

Sure there's a lot but you can't exactly use that

[sleek halo]

cosmolite is like literally

locked behind the distortion paywall

auric is now fucking everywhere

[manic coral]

Cosmolite is extra durable distortion rubber basically

[sleek halo]

due to Yharon eating shit

[split mortar]

And auric is locked behind the yharon paywall

[real silo]

I thought auric was there since the start

[manic coral]

No why would it be

[sleek halo]

doesn’t shownup

till Yharon dies

[real silo]

Idk mang

[manic coral]

It only shows up after you kill yharon

[late veldt]

wait did Aureus get infected before or after the meteor landed

[mighty zenith]

after

how would it get infected before

[split mortar]

The meteor is the source of the infection

[sleek halo]

Which Yharon dting

is enough to release

auric

[real silo]

Aureus flew up to the stars and ate astral first clearly

[sleek halo]

literally all over the contiennt

[late veldt]

if it was in the atmosphere

[manic coral]

And if you are going to ask how the fuck Yharim got his armor then

[mighty zenith]

yeah but

[sleek halo]

which btw is fucking crazy

[mighty zenith]

aureus is a

uh

grounded

[manic coral]

That is a story for another day

[mighty zenith]

unit

[split mortar]

We only know the scope of where we play not the entire continent

[sleek halo]

it’s fair to assume

[manic coral]

To be fair it's safe to assume

Yeah

[real silo]

Yharim got his auric because the aerie has a lot of auric

Easy

[sleek halo]

it’s likely over most of the continent

considering how far it spread

[mighty zenith]

clearly yharim killed yharon

[manic coral]

The aerie has no auric

[late veldt]

yharon took a piss on some gold and it turned into auric

[manic coral]

Also even if it did

[real silo]

Boo....

[stoic gulch]

No

[manic coral]

How would they do anything with it

[stoic gulch]

Tf

[sleek halo]

I mean..

Yharon fucking died

so

[indigo glade]

Well.

[real silo]

If dragons dying made auric appear then there's probably plenty from how many dragons have died

[split mortar]

Yharons death happens after yharim gets auric armour

[manic coral]

Yeah but even then how would Yharim work with it. Like. You can't just smelt auric like any old metal

[real silo]

[indigo glade]

A lot more dragons also died.

[sleek halo]

And we don’t know if him coming back would reabsorb all existing auric ore

[real silo]

Ah you see

[manic coral]

So auric showing up wouldn't do shit since who would even forget it or how

[real silo]

Yharon can rebirth

[split mortar]

Evil and devious aerie forges

[real silo]

So he can die multiple times

[manic coral]

Nope

[sleek halo]

Imo Yharim has

a warset from

older times

[indigo glade]

Is Dragonfire from Yharon hot enough?

[split mortar]

Like yharim would let yharon die just for some auric ore

[real silo]

Yharon dies
Auric spawns
Yharim uses auric to make armor
Yharon dies again
Auric spawns again

[sleek halo]

or perhaps different pieces of auric armor frankensteined together

[void zealot]

whats hotter, brimstone, holy flames, or yharon flames?

[manic coral]

In theory, maybe. In practice, it's not an issue of not being hot enough

[indigo glade]

Yharon.

[sleek halo]

that

[split mortar]

Scals flame is hottest but prob dragon flame out of what you listed

[sleek halo]

a lot of reasons why

[manic coral]

It's an issue of lije

[sleek halo]

yharim could have his armor

clearly the gods that got yharons egg knew how to find the aerie

[manic coral]

Ok how could you get Dragonfire to burn in a specific enough way to do rhat

[real silo]

What's the reason for making auric unsmeltable

[sleek halo]

so they could’ve been dragon monks

[manic coral]

Also what the fuck would hold molton auric without also melting itself

[real silo]

Is it to fuck over draedon specifically

[sleek halo]

might’ve had a set of auric armor

[void zealot]

what are the exo mechs made of?

[indigo glade]

A bucket made of Auric, obviously.

[split mortar]

A cosmilite alloy and advanced tech with exo prisms as the power source

[sleek halo]

Thanatos has a more specialized version of the armor

[void zealot]

draedon sould have used auric with exo prisms

[sleek halo]

which was grown over him and is far more durable

[manic coral]

And how would he have used auric exactly

[sleek halo]

I mean he has worked with auric

[void zealot]

slap it on them and call it a day

[split mortar]

No
Auric rejects draedon and his machines

Ignoring that auric wouls also just, not be available for him

[void zealot]

ok

[split mortar]

Or well

Auric is a pain to work with

[sleek halo]

Otherwise Yharim wouldn’t have his armor upgraded

[manic coral]

Yes. He made a single cooling cell

[split mortar]

Yharim already had a set of armour

[void zealot]

how the fuck do we even meld it into armor? + demonshade

[manic coral]

That took like three years to make

[sleek halo]

So he could now but

there is no reason to

His alloy is realistically better to use

than Auric for him

[manic coral]

And then yeah he did apply that knowledge to Yharim's armor but like

[sleek halo]

auric would inadvertently fry any AI

[manic coral]

He was working with something already made

[split mortar]

The auric we use is mock attuned thanks to putting soul fragments into the auric removing the ability to reject things

[sleek halo]

as realistically auric would reject it lol

[manic coral]

Yeah that too

[sleek halo]

so the circuits wouldnbe uh

a little cooked

a tad fucked

[split mortar]

Yharims auric isnt mock attuned

So it will explode things on contact

[void zealot]

with yharons soul right?

[split mortar]

Yea

Thats why it uses yharon soul shards

[sleek halo]

The only

[void zealot]

that makes sense

[manic coral]

I think Draedon could figure out a way to make auric exo.mechs work. But not any time soon.

That's beyond his current level of expertise

[sleek halo]

Thing I couldnsee that would make Draedon want to work with Auric

is capturing and experimenting on Yharon

[eager bluff]

frankly before that he would probably try to clone yharon

[sleek halo]

because no more Yharim to intervene means he has free reign

[manic coral]

Yeah mf literally has them auric bones

[void zealot]

someone should start a WhatsApp chat with draedon, yharim, S-Cal, and the Terrarian

[sleek halo]

at least auric fingernails

[real silo]

I have been saying this

[manic coral]

I mean you literally see in the yharon gores

[sleek halo]

(the horns look added on)

[split mortar]

Scal and yharim would probably immediately leave

[manic coral]

Auric bones

[real silo]

Draedon spawncamps yharon

[sleek halo]

(Like decorative)

(Now used for war)

[eager bluff]

yeah thats what auric dragon came from isnt it

[split mortar]

Auric ore is bones got it

[void zealot]

he has to wait 10 years just to kill him

[real silo]

= free auric

[eager bluff]

or was it bsky having auric bones

something had auric bones and that led to auric dragons

[sleek halo]

But also like

[real silo]

Dude has been alive for 66 times longer than that he can just wait

[sleek halo]

he gets to work more important with

an auric soul

the auric

like the most important one of them all

[real silo]

If draedon is a 66 year old grandpa then 10 years is just a single year for him

[sleek halo]

660…

not 66 😭

[real silo]

if

Stinkster

[split mortar]

Conparisons

They made him 0.1 times older and so made the 10 a 1

[sleek halo]

Draedon probably gonna know more about Auric dragon physiology than Yharon

[void zealot]

you should hand draedon a shellphone, what will he say?

[real silo]

he would turn it into a shellpc

[split mortar]

Prob unimpressed

That sort of thing would prob have been seen before even if they dont get the magical side of stuff

[real silo]

Once he understands how it transports people to beaches he can probably try to apply it to moons or something

lunar conch

[sleek halo]

Inthink hezms already doing that

[urban hedge]

A portable one so it's not inferior to shellphones in a notable way

[sleek halo]

lol

[split mortar]

He wants to but hasnt figured out how to yet

[sleek halo]

the tech literally already exists

he just needs to amplify it

pylons

which don’t get me wrong might take him a bit

but all he has is time

so it wont really matter

[real silo]

Draedon using slaves to man his pylons

[sleek halo]

no

they’re inefficient

just use robots

[split mortar]

Pylons require people and happy people

[sleek halo]

they’re 1000 times better

[real silo]

Can robots power pylons

[split mortar]

We dunno if they would count

[real silo]

I don't think any of the npcs are 100% robots

[sleek halo]

i mean also he can likely alter

[urban hedge]

For magic mirrors you just need an anvil, some glass, some diamond, and some gold/platinum and viola, there you have a permanent teleporter
(Tbf though this recipe- and teleporting mirrors, phones, and potions- could all be non-canon

[sleek halo]

how they work

[real silo]

Cyborg is explicitly a cyborg not a full machine

[split mortar]

And also
Would draedon understand the magics needed for a moon pylon

[sleek halo]

or base another creation off them

science & magic seem extremely intertwined

in calamity

[split mortar]

They are, but draedon finds the magic confusing cause its not purely logical iirc

[real silo]

We don't even know How pylons are made too they kinda just appear in NPCs' pockets Somehow

[split mortar]

^

[sleek halo]

which is probably a thing he will try to overcome

[real silo]

Magical draedon

[split mortar]

It aint a probably

[sleek halo]

he can talk to permafrost

[split mortar]

Its a will try

[real silo]

I really want to see a draedon that conquered magic

[split mortar]

Still below xeroc…

[real silo]

Power of god and technology on his side

Doncare

Give me exo brimstone mechs

[sleek halo]

how to beat Xeroc

ignore hum

[real silo]

Clone yharim 3 times

win

[sleek halo]

Draedon can’t beat Xeroc

Xeroc can’t kill Draedon

it’s literally an infinite stalemate

[split mortar]

I imagine they could right now

[real silo]

Better idea

Cooperate with xeroc

[sleek halo]

he’d have to find

literally everythign

[real silo]

Draedon finally invents 100% efficient solar power

[sleek halo]

Xeroc isn’t omniscient

[urban hedge]

Maybe Draedon could beat Xeroc if he got advanced enough, I guess

[split mortar]

And xeroc probably has the power to just scorch the entire planet until draedon gone

[split mortar]

Nah

[sleek halo]

scorching the planet won’t matter when you’re extremely deep underground

[mighty zenith]

something something batman with prep time

[real silo]

It all depends how many targets xeroc can take on at once

[sleek halo]

not to mention Xeroc under no circumstance

would do that

[late veldt]

I figured out Yharims armor

[split mortar]

A dev has said xerocs potential is the highest possible and that draedon cant ever catch up to them

[real silo]

How many yharims will it take to beat xeroc

[split mortar]

Cant

[sleek halo]

3 probably

[real silo]

boo

[sleek halo]

Xeroc is strong but like

3 Yharims is a lot

[late veldt]

It's not auric it's Australium that he got from Mann Vs. Machine

[sleek halo]

of Yharims

[real silo]

Would draedon be able to clone yharim's physique

[sleek halo]

no likely not

[real silo]

Boo....