lore-discussion

[cloud ibex]

[frigid sage]

Please don’t send your pet tank to jump on me

[delicate oak]

does anyone have the document about how much damage would a nuclear bomb would do in terraria?

[pliant ruin]

the what

[delicate oak]

i remember a document being posted here

about how much damage would a nuke would deal in terraria

when using dynamite as the scale.

[frosty shale]

the Little Boy explosion had a radius of 1.3 km
how many tiles is that

a tile is 3 feet right

0.9144 metres

so...

1422 tiles radius of explosion origin

hope this helps

anything within 3827 tiles would be killed

[pliant ruin]

I
Does this. Even count as lore. I mean where else would it go. I don't even know

This is just. one of the least expected things ive seen in here nad that's

saying something

[frosty shale]

This is the least insane thing I've read in #lore-discussion

I swear every time I open this it's just chaos

[delicate oak]

or maybe im just having a bad memory

[pliant ruin]

It's not even insane

It's just

unexpected, i suppose

[delicate oak]

i swear theres a document about it long ago

[frosty shale]

a surprise, to be sure, but a... welcome? one

i mean

[frosty shale]

i did the math here, if you're interested in how big the explosion would be

assuming the bomb is of similar strength to the Little Boy explosion in Hiroshima, Japan in 1945

[frigid sage]

How wide is a large world?

How many blocks

[frosty shale]

8400 tiles wide

[frigid sage]

6 nukes

[frosty shale]

so if you detonated the Little Boy explosion in the centre of a large world, it would destroy everything out to 2778 from each ocean

only the left and rightmost 373 tiles would be safe

but that's just the lethal blast zone

[frigid sage]

6 nukes at most to destroy terraria

[frosty shale]

so I'm sure the entire world would be irradiated or injured

[frigid sage]

Yes

[frosty shale]

you can safely ignore the Sulphur Sea because... yeah

so just shift it left or right a bit

[frigid sage]

Yup

[frosty shale]

and BOOM; no more Terraria

[frigid sage]

But there’s life there

[frosty shale]

well that's because Silva

or what's left of her

[frigid sage]

True

[frosty shale]

which makes me wonder, could Silva reverse the effects of a nuclear fallout?

[frigid sage]

What if we destroy all the plants to kill Silva?

[frosty shale]

doesn't she exist outside all those plants?

like, Silva isn't the plants, she's the reason there are plants

kill all plants, Silva just makes more

[frigid sage]

She can’t die as long as there are plants

[frosty shale]

ah

[frigid sage]

So if we kill all plants and then obliterate the abyss and after that nuke it we can actually kill Silva

[frosty shale]

so kill all plants
kill abyss
Hiroshima, Japan c. 1945

and there we go, no more Terraria

[frigid sage]

Yes

Just ask Draedon for help

[frosty shale]

of course, a modern nuclear weapon could destroy a Terraria world thousands of times over

[frigid sage]

Yes

[frosty shale]

That reminds me: whatever a "Gauss Nuke" is is terribly weak

[frigid sage]

A hydrogen bomb and Draedon could destroy a planet

[frosty shale]

compared to the weakest of IRL nuclear weapons

Gauss Nukes have such a weak radius

[frigid sage]

Yeah

[frosty shale]

so Draedon actually isn't very good at massive planet-destroying weapons

[frigid sage]

Wdym?

He can easily destroy the planet

[frosty shale]

I was referring to the gauss nukes Ares has

[magic epoch]

not profitable

[frosty shale]

but I guess that makes sense since Ares is a weapon of war, not a planet-killer

don't need actual nukes on a war machine

[frigid sage]

Gauss nuke is maybe made of technetium

[magic epoch]

THORIUM?!?

HOOOOLLLY FUCK

[frigid sage]

No

[magic epoch]

IISSS THAAT

[frigid sage]

Not anymore

[magic epoch]

A TMODLOADER REFERENCE?!?

[frozen zodiac]

Maybe it was just created to inflict maximum damage and harm rather than inflicting it over a wide area?

There's some physics thing that when force is concentrated into one spot more and more it becomes stronger than if it were spread out

[frosty shale]

surface area, yes

(and volume)

[real silo]

If ares has a real nuke then he literally will just kill the other exos and himself

[frosty shale]

what if ares has nuke resistant plating

and the other mechs

i'm sure draedon can make that

[light linden]

I

Where do I even start with that

Nuke resistant plating isn't a thing

Radiation resistant is

But no matter what

[pliant ruin]

i mean it dosen't but

draedon probably could make it

[light linden]

A point blank nuke even if the exo mechs could survive the 10+ million degree blast, the EMP from the blast, AND the concussive force strong enough to flatten skyscrapers

[real silo]

Thanatos could maybe not get turned to dust

The others have no chance though

[light linden]

They would likely be thrown off immensely or at the very least have their steering severely messed up

[light linden]

It isn't dust that's the issue

It would get cooked like a crab and the EMP would fry whatever wasn't cooked

[real silo]

Yea

[light linden]

That's also ignoring the possibility that the extreme force from a close range nuke could basically make it smash into itself if Thanatos was too coiled up

Ares would prolly have all of its arms ripped off

And the duo would prolly get sent flying

[pliant ruin]

mmmm shrimp

thanatos is like a giant shrimpi f u think abt it

[real silo]

Thanatos is centipede

[light linden]

Hell the first ever nuclear bombs reached double the melting point of tungsten

And the ones we have today reach millions of degrees

And if Draedon found something that could withstand that heat he'd prolly have drilled into the center of the planet by now

Also using nuclear weapons in a place you're still trying to study is unwise

[spring helm]

back to being shiki i see

[real silo]

Found a good one

Apparently from 5 years ago damn

[manic coral]

It's weaker than a proper nuke yeah but it doesn't cause nearly as much needless devastation

whats the point of a real nuike if it's gonna make several miles uninhabital and just cause the mechs to damage themselves

[frosty shale]

I mean it does make sense it'd be weak

since Ares is a fine-tuned war machine, not a WMD

[manic coral]

yeah

[frosty shale]

WMD doesn't feel like Draedon's style

just bio-mechanical plagues

[split mortar]

He is a unstoppable force basically, no one can stop him if he decides to kill life not even yharim

He can’t just explode celestial bodies

[manic coral]

he doesnt care about fucking up the environment but making an environment not an envrionment anymore is somethign that messes with stuff he'd maybe wanna do too

at least thats what Draedon nowadays thinks

[sinful adder]

Makes sense

Honestly Draedon sounds ok to have around under the condition that there's someone stronger than him to protect life

Like, he is undoubtedly dangerous

[split mortar]

-# xeroc

[cloud ibex]

That’s what I was thinking

[sinful adder]

But also very useful

Xeroc would be unlikely to be involved

[cloud ibex]

Road trip comedy where draedon’s trying to do research and Xeroc is trying to reel him in whenever he gets too far away from scientifically unhelpful things like “ethics” or “morals”

[split mortar]

Yes

Correct

You have won

[sinful adder]

There is something I find interesting...

Having morals makes perfect sense from a purely logical perspective as an interaction between beings at a similar level of power/influence to each other and which are sharing the same world

This is probably why keeping Draedon in check with equal power would work. They can be reasoned with, because having morals is logically sound in such situations

[limpid saddle]

That tracks, given in his Communication dialouge he constantly reassures the Terrarian he won't seek further ecological harm upon Terraria with things like the Plauge nanovirus & his waste dumping in the Sulphurous Sea, this also implies one, I imagine fairly consistent characteristic about the Terrarian themselves, that being, to some extent, they care about the enviornment & the natural order

[pliant ruin]

Draedon is honestly pretty beneficial to the world at large when he isn't doing Horrors

[cloud ibex]

“The horrors are fully within my comprehension this time. I don’t know if that makes it better or worse”

[mossy parcel]

I think areses nuke arms trow actual mini nukes since calamitas canonically incinerated the sea and the exo mechs have the same strenght

[untold oracle]

I don’t think draedon would use WMDs

Why delete message?

[real silo]

they don't have to be real nukes

Even mini ones

[sleek halo]

Draedon when he could fix almost literally every problem within maybe a decade:

(an exaggeration but still)

Idrk how many goals he has on this planet still

[hollow osprey]

draedon is just chill guy that lowkey doesn't give a fuck, he's like, just doing his own thing, yeah he could solve every issue, but he has his own priorities

[sleek halo]

Yeah

[untold oracle]

If you got a severe illness for example and you went up to draedon would he put in the effort to help you (I assume he could cure it rather easily)

[cloud ibex]

if it's very rare probably

[real silo]

so fucked up how he has so much knowledge of shit but he just uses it to make weapons

[mighty zenith]

if you let him mess with the illness probably

[real silo]

no mention of him making idk super healing aids or artificial human brains

imagine a draedon brand hospital

[split mortar]

He does do artificial brains, his own neural network is based on organic brains neurons iirc

[real silo]

but no mention of him using that tech to help brain injured people

selfish ahh mf

[indigo glade]

He cloned someone, does that count as an artificial brain?

[split mortar]

Guess so

Though soul isn’t artificial

[untold oracle]

I imagine he doesn’t want to ”spoil” stuff to people but instead tries to ignite the curiosity and inspiration in people to find solutions themselves

[real silo]

Clearly not working very well

[split mortar]

We make miracle matter tbf

[untold oracle]

I imagine the terrarian in reality just furiously mashing random shit together for 14 hours straight

[sleek halo]

I mean

Tbf

He had an incentive to make weapons

which was getting as much stuff as he needed to do essentially whatever he wants in Yharim’s army

[limpid saddle]

To quote a wise man, "But I don't want to cure cancer, I want to turn people into dinosaurs make weapons of mass destruction"

[hybrid barn]

Kind of makes me wonder what he'd go on to make now that Yharim broke up with him, since he doesn't have that incentive anymore

[untold oracle]

He wants to do space exploratiom

So first of all he has to find a way to neutralise astral infection

[split mortar]

And teleport without

[hybrid barn]

Oh yeaahhhh, makes sense!

[untold oracle]

Ah, I see what you did there!

How fun

[split mortar]

But yeah
less long distance teleportation
Neutralise astral infection
Moon mining

That’s what I think the current plans are

[hybrid barn]

It's a little funny to imagine him finally figuring out that first part, while the mechanic's over in the corner watching her bank account run dry

[untold oracle]

I found a solution for draedon

1. Get an ultra hd 96K max resolution screen
2. Get better zoom and zoom out as far as possible
3. When the moon appears on your screen, simply RoD there
4. Profit

[hybrid barn]

Psh- genius!

[mossy parcel]

But then the primordial wdym will spawn and ask him why he's on the moon

[scenic olive]

what does primordial wyrm think of Draedon

[untold oracle]

Prolly doesn’t care

If even knows

[cloud coyote]

Halloo

[spring helm]

Hello

[cloud coyote]

Jared is stronger than the Exo-Mechs?

[spring helm]

Yes

[cloud coyote]

Was the soul of Zeratross the stronger Auric soul?

[spring helm]

Yes

[cloud coyote]

In Calamity lore, why the Guide is connected with the Wall of Flesh?

[mighty zenith]

Iirc the connection will be explained in the next update

[cloud coyote]

Okay

[mighty zenith]

currently its unknown

[limpid saddle]

Any other queries while you're at it?

[cloud coyote]

With what materials are made the Exo-Mechs?

[limpid saddle]

Exo Prisms

Their super-strong attacks are also powered by an unstable form of Miracle Matter created by their own melting components

[split mortar]

An alloy that uses cosmilite as its main component

Thanatos is made specially tough since its shell was “grown” molecule by molecule by plasma jets but is way heavier thanks to it

And exo prisms supply the energy and focus for attacks

[cloud coyote]

Calamitas vs The Exo Mechs, who's the winner

[limpid saddle]

It's said by the Exo-Mechs lore item that Yharim considers them to 'rival' Calamitas, but we really have no clue who'd beat who

[cloud coyote]

So the material of the exo mechs don't melt down by the flames of calamitas?

[split mortar]

Since they share progression I’d bet they’re equal

[split mortar]

Considering Apollo (green eye) rivals her flame

Prob needs continued exposure for that

[cloud coyote]

I mean Calamitas could just melt the material

[cloud coyote]

Hmm

Okay

[cloud coyote]

If the Exo Mechs attack Calamitas in the way they attack the player

Calamitas would win?

[limpid saddle]

We don't know

It's not exactly a question with a clear answer no matter what way you cut it

[cloud coyote]

Because they don't attack at the same time, they have an order, depending which exo you pick

[split mortar]

Since they’re more built for a melee iirc I’d bet it but it would probably most of the time be a close draw

Wait just thought of the box arena

Yeah I think scal wins

[cloud coyote]

The

I don't remember his name

The Sepulturer?

[limpid saddle]

Sepulcher

[split mortar]

Sepulcher

[limpid saddle]

jinx lmao

[cloud coyote]

Okay the Sepulcher could beat Thanatos?

[split mortar]

[limpid saddle]

Probably not

[split mortar]

It depends on if Thanatos finds out about the brimstone heart invincibility stuff

[limpid saddle]

It's the Sepulcher it's not that threatening

[split mortar]

If not then sep would prob slowly win

But if so then Thanatos would

[limpid saddle]

The Advanced On-Board Combat A.I could defo figure that out

[split mortar]

Draedons not the wisest with magic but yeah I do think they would find out before losing

[limpid saddle]

Plus it'd probably ram into some of them by accident anyway, if not steam or laser them

[spring helm]

The exo mechs’ strength is counted as all three of them fighting

So this should be assumed by default

[light linden]

Ngl

[split mortar]

👁️

[dusk laurel]

Go on

[mighty zenith]

not gonna lie

jk i lied

😈

[dusk laurel]

And that's why your pants are on fire

Wtfrick

He got the cool dude role

[split mortar]

Garbo?

All mods get cool dude

And it seems Fabsol mistook their mold for mod

[deft vessel]

The mold

[mighty zenith]

my mold powers will drown out your screams

[hoary cape]

The only one who is moldy is Garbo

[light linden]

My phone decided it needed to update while I was typing lmao

[dusk laurel]

Crazy

[dusk laurel]

Too bad

I eated it

[light linden]

I kinda hope we get more info about chlorophyte

[mighty zenith]

[light linden]

Seems kinda weird for the growing ore to have no lore

[mighty zenith]

i cast tummyache

[hoary cape]

Garbo here I have a mold farm for you that I can put in your aureus plushie cage

[dusk laurel]

I reject this

[mighty zenith]

roll for skill

[dusk laurel]

20

[mighty zenith]

fuck

[hoary cape]

Counterspell

Your skill is countered

[dusk laurel]

20

[hoary cape]

Nuh uh

[mighty zenith]

i dont know dnd

i cast table flip

[dusk laurel]

Shit

Uh

[hoary cape]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[dusk laurel]

14

[hoary cape]

Garbo right now

[mighty zenith]

i win

nobody gets to play

the table

its broken

[hoary cape]

Oh no the table it's broken

[dusk laurel]

Play on the floor then

[mighty zenith]

no theres too much mold

[dusk laurel]

shrimple as that gif

Nuh uh

I will eated them

[mighty zenith]

i cast tummyache

[dusk laurel]

Shit

[hoary cape]

I cast immunity

Vanilla is immune now

[mighty zenith]

bitch! burger gif

[deft vessel]

I summon shrimp

[mighty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/bitch-burger-destruction-esmbot-caption-caption-gif-16095492400613807537

[dusk laurel]

Victorian ass housing

[deft vessel]

Perm abuse smh

[hoary cape]

Garbo I am sorry, but that's a week mute for posting a meme /j

[mighty zenith]

thats fair

[split mortar]

Damn, and I don’t see that housing as odd for modern

Maybe Britain is just old

[limpid saddle]

i keep making sky wizard houses

im on my third mysterious cloud tower

[light linden]

"maybe"

[limpid saddle]

yeah britain is pretty objectively old

but i live in ireland i cant say much about infrastructure

[light linden]

Britains buildings and taste for drinks are both old af

[limpid saddle]

in my city we have this massive modern office building sourrounded by housing from like a 100 years ago

shit's like the polyhedron from pathologic but more depressing & capitalistic

[mighty zenith]

the street i live by looks like its from before WW2

[limpid saddle]

funniest thing is nobody actually uses it 😭

[mighty zenith]

theres literally a fucking bunker opposite my home

[limpid saddle]

it's sat empty & desolate for like a year now

[light linden]

Obligatory tea sucks whenever Britain is mentioned

[mighty zenith]

hey

dont even hate on tea

[light linden]

I will

Tea is awful

[dusk laurel]

Britain didn't even invent tea

You have billions of people after you now

[light linden]

And?

[limpid saddle]

ok

that's your opinion

I don't really like it

I'm not gonna call it objectively bad because of it

I don't like hot chocolate either but I see the appeal too

ANYWAY

calamity lore

[digital anchor]

Is Yharim a god? Idk if he is considering he never consumed Yharon’s auric soul.

[spare pier]

You answered your own question

[split mortar]

Consuming a auric soul is the one requirement to be a god

[digital anchor]

Cool, seeing him as the main tyrant and antagonist but not a god had me conflicted for a second. Thanks

[deft vessel]

He wants to kill them all

[limpid saddle]

Actually on that, one little detail hasnt been all that clear to me

Since the Terrarian kills Yharon, are they a God?

Or does Yharim's bond to him prevent his Auric Soul being left behind for the Terrarian to munch on

[dusk laurel]

No

Yharon never loses his auric soul

He sends it to the aerie too quickly

We just get the fragments that get left behind

[mighty zenith]

if the terrarian absorbed yharon's soul, yharim would die

[dusk laurel]

Yep

That too

[split mortar]

We never do the ascension ritual and yharons soul instantly gets to the aerie, the yharon soul fragments are like a fingernail in total or something else equally unimportant

[dusk laurel]

✂️

[spare pier]

I wouldn't say it's that small of a fraction, but still not nowhere near enough to make a proper ascension ritual

I'd say it's more akin to, well

A heart

In terms of size

[limpid saddle]

Alright, let's backpeddle a little here, how exactly does Yharon pull that little stunt off? & if he could do it, why didn't other hunted dragons pull it off? What seperates them?

[dusk laurel]

Waiting for the soul fragment resprite when Yharon gets reworked

[indigo glade]

Dragon of Rebirth.

Should be quite obvious that

he is the best at doing that.

[spare pier]

I'd say "and also in importance" but I don't want to give people the wrong idea and conveying what I wanna say properly is too hard

[split mortar]

Yharon being dragon of rebirth has much more control over their soul iirc

[mighty zenith]

i always thought it was like, shedding

shedding and farting as in his soul scrapes off a few fragments with each death until eventually being reduced to nothing

[spare pier]

I think it's more akin to him losing a critical part of his Soul which makes so he must now spend a decade or so regenerating that part which is why his Rebirth takes so long

But, as I said

You still need the whole thing to make the ritual

[light linden]

Hi Rebecca

[limpid saddle]

Alright i've got my answers despite my gripes, gonna forward peddle now & ponder aloud 'i wonder if we're gonna do a Link's Awakening & find a big Yharon egg after we beat the shit out of Yharim'

[split mortar]

I’d say it depends on if the egg forms immediately and takes a decade to hatch or after years it forms and hatches

[spare pier]

As cool as it is, nah but that's more due to gameplay limitations

[dusk laurel]

Doesn't it take a decade to form the egg

[limpid saddle]

Fair enough

[spare pier]

Because if the player became a God

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

What do we give them?

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

yeahhh handling that would kind of be impossible !

[split mortar]

Just multiply our health stats by 50

[dusk laurel]

+1% Everything

[mighty zenith]

placebo stat buff

[dusk laurel]

Obviously

[limpid saddle]

that is the lamest possible way to do that

[spare pier]

Also you still don't know how to do the ritual

[split mortar]

Not like the future bosses

[limpid saddle]

& i didnt mean fucking eat Yharon

i meant like

[spare pier]

• Considering how Godhood is heavily dependent on your own personality

[limpid saddle]

just find him

[spare pier]

Yeah

I think finding Yharon's egg and then idk pulling a Ender Dragon Egg with it could be cool

[dusk laurel]

Could you just take it as a piece of furniture

[split mortar]

Perfect ascend

[limpid saddle]

maybe make it like an accessory or something

& the visual is a really big like tweed bag on your back holding the egg

[spare pier]

-200% movement speed
"Yharon is a fatass"

[split mortar]

-50% movement speed
heavy…

[spare pier]

I HATE DISCORD'S FORMATTING

[cloud ibex]

\

[split mortar]

lol

[limpid saddle]

real....

[cloud ibex]

mercy overwatch gif

[dusk laurel]

💥

[spare pier]

I think that's a cool idea but sadly we got Auric Soul Artifact and Yharim's Gift already

[limpid saddle]

if you beat boss rush with yharon egg you unlock baby Yharon as an accessory

[dusk laurel]

Make auric soul artifact summon Yharon as a minion

[cloud ibex]

mcnuggets

[dusk laurel]

Clearly this is balanced

[cloud ibex]

[limpid saddle]

to be fair it's post-post game

[dusk laurel]

Auric Soul Artifact is pre-SCal/Exos

[limpid saddle]

i thought you meant after you get the egg

[dusk laurel]

[limpid saddle]

[spring helm]

bro went super saiyan 💀

[light linden]

@spare pier hey which dev is writing stuff for the gods?

[spare pier]

All of us

[light linden]

Oh

Well uh

Have you written any of the stuff for Providence?

[split mortar]

Rebecca is the providence writer person iirc

[light linden]

Oh

I'm wanting to know if Providence having her own biome is kinda a thing unique to her

[split mortar]

Slime god isn’t getting a biome iirc

[light linden]

I expected that

But I meant like lore wise

[spare pier]

Yeah, Providence is the only Boss that shows up ingame with a proper biome

[split mortar]

Ravager is having their temple but idk if that’s really a uh
Biome

[spare pier]

And also, yeah one of the few capable of making that kind of shit

[light linden]

Actually a better way to put it

[spare pier]

Considering that, well

Ok by this point basically everyone agrees Providence is the Goddess of Ash

[light linden]

Did any other gods have biomes of their own creation?

[spare pier]

So, obviously

If she burned shit

That's her Domain

[light linden]

I always thought she was the goddess of rage

[dusk laurel]

How does that connect back to flame

[cloud ibex]

providence ashlands biome.....

[spring helm]

Providence, Goddess of 😡

[split mortar]

Rage is often described as fiery

[cloud ibex]

yeah

[spring helm]

with that precedent, she could be the goddess of love too since love is a burning passion

[light linden]

^

Also sorry if I am slow when answering stuff, it feels like my ribs and hips are broken

Oh and my Internet is slow AF too

[split mortar]

-# she is getting rid of pain out of empathy or something so… not out of the question of possibility

[dusk laurel]

You mean realm

[spare pier]

Basically

If a God can turn something into their own domain

[split mortar]

Uh
Hope you get better soon

[spare pier]

They could also have a biome

[light linden]

Idk

[spring helm]

She loves all living things.
In fact, Providence's love is so great that she takes it upon Herself to rid the world of all suffering ❤️

[spare pier]

But obviously Providence has the easiest time of all of them since she just has to burn things

[light linden]

I fell out of a tree onto frozen ground

Been feeling winded and have been aching since I woke up

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

You should prob get medical attention if possible

[light linden]

Can't

Too expensive

Anyways

[split mortar]

[light linden]

What kind of god do y'all think an auric soul of tectonics would make?

[spring helm]

so are the profaned mobs gonna be changed too?

like Scorn Eaters and the like

[light linden]

Please change scorn eaters

[split mortar]

There was mention of forge

Maybe god of change? Since tectonics shift and change idk

[spring helm]

god of mountains

[dusk laurel]

I mean

Obviously

[limpid saddle]

Well it seems like Gods that dont meet some unknown criteria never directly inherent the fundamental aspect that defined that Auric Soul, it's always a 'downgrade', they represent the aftermath, because if Providence is a Goddess of Ash, then she's the burnt out embers of Fire, a more direct tie could be made with the Dragon Of Gluttony & Slime God, in this interpretation the Slime God being uh

shit

there's no mincing words here

[cloud ibex]

slime god is a gluttonous slime

[limpid saddle]

So an Auric Soul of the tectonic plates would, if not a direct translation, probably end up as a God of Earthquakes or something

[cloud ibex]

[dusk laurel]

Not necessarily all the time

[spring helm]

it's kind of funny that gods receive their domain based on their personality, which means that Slime God is just naturally slimy/slime-like

[dusk laurel]

The ascendee's domain could be something related, rather than a smaller aspect of the dragon's domain

[limpid saddle]

they were just a really sweaty guy before they ate the auric soul

[split mortar]

They slipped out of a lot of sticky situations

[split mortar]

Like death to sacrifice

[spring helm]

sweaty femboy

[dusk laurel]

Sweaty ninja femboy

[limpid saddle]

[spring helm]

maybe this message is not a good look on me

[crystal pendant]

ok this sure is calamitous

[spring helm]

what a calamity

[split mortar]

Oh yeah the new people wouldn’t know of the twink death slimegod image

[limpid saddle]

I can connect these & make the aftermath domain theory work i swear

[spring helm]

i mean you can just reply to an image that was sent earlier

[split mortar]

Sacrifice isnt just sacrificing your life

[split mortar]

Yeah idfk what any of them say so uh

Rip

[limpid saddle]

Sacrifice doesnt mean just killing yourself

[dusk laurel]

Sacrifices can be anything

Like money, time, etc.

[limpid saddle]

Emotional, physical, psychological sacrifices

[split mortar]

Yeah

Sacrifice a loaf of bread

[limpid saddle]

In many cases, it's a figurative death

[cloud ibex]

the real world is built on sacrifices

[limpid saddle]

i blame capitalism for that one

[limpid saddle]

Wait I have it

[cloud ibex]

sacrifice time and effort so that someone else can pay you to do some shit they can't/don't want to do so that you can pay someone else to do some shit you can't/don't want to do

[spring helm]

the slime god lore

[limpid saddle]

Sacrifice is like a downscaling of death, because to sacrifice is to lose something, usually something that can never be returned, but more often the not sacrifice leaves the sacrificee with regret

It takes out sheer oblivion & rips out something important to you instead, until there is nothing left to take

boom it still works

[dusk laurel]

Sure

I sacrificed some money

Then stole it back

This totally works, yep

[spring helm]

you know what you sacrificed in doing that? time

[split mortar]

By their definition sacrificing to gos would prob lead to the money being completely obliterated

[limpid saddle]

[cloud ibex]

me after sacrificing money to buy hammed Burger (i don't regret it)

[dusk laurel]

Exactly

[limpid saddle]

i said more often the not

Im not considering trade as sacrifice

[faint plank]

jarburodher

[limpid saddle]

Anyway i'm clinging to this theory until Rebecca descends from the writers throne to impale me with a recoloured murasama

[faint plank]

incredible

[split mortar]

What about dragon of gravity to god of space?

[spring helm]

yeah how come it isn't the other way around

[split mortar]

By space I mean the geometric distance type

[dusk laurel]

Didn't Reb already explain that one

[limpid saddle]

is this like a lore document thing i havent seen

[dusk laurel]

No

It's not in there

[spring helm]

non-canon Stip oc

[split mortar]

It’s a idea that was made after bountiful harvest

[dusk laurel]

This is just known unimplemented lore

[split mortar]

Yeah

Second strongest god

[dusk laurel]

Shakidou, God of Space

[split mortar]

Only second to xeroc

[dusk laurel]

2nd strongest god to ever exist

[split mortar]

Shout out to vanillin for guessing it

[limpid saddle]

Ok that sounds like a direct transfer situation

[cloud ibex]

([geometric] space)

[split mortar]

🐌

[cloud ibex]

((not like

space space))

[limpid saddle]

oh then yeah it still works

[split mortar]

Saint of gardens you are snail

[cloud ibex]

don't care

[spring helm]

who is the god of the cosmos

[cloud ibex]

[spring helm]

still yet to be revealed

[limpid saddle]

astrum deus

[dusk laurel]

No

[faint plank]

geometric dash

[spring helm]

(it's xeroc in a trench coat)

[pliant ruin]

me

hi

[dusk laurel]

Bye

[limpid saddle]

astrum deus 2

[dusk laurel]

Nope

[pliant ruin]

wtf.

[dusk laurel]

Try again

[spring helm]

[limpid saddle]

astrum deus 3

[dusk laurel]

Hmm

Maybe

Try

Roll again

[split mortar]

How may I ask

[limpid saddle]

astrum deus 4

[spring helm]

the day Rebecca replied to one of my questions with a "" was the day I died

[limpid saddle]

what even is that emote

[dusk laurel]

hdfailure

[cloud ibex]

thorium boss projectile meme resprite hd remaster

[limpid saddle]

No I mean i feel like im missing a wider context

[spring helm]

it means
"you asked me something stupid and this is all i have to say"

[split mortar]

[limpid saddle]

is it smiling or is it oogie boogie in dog collar

[split mortar]

Ima be real

Thought it was a sans head burger thing for a while

[spring helm]

[cloud ibex]

_ _

[split mortar]

I DIDNT ASK YOUA NUTHING:(

[split mortar]

Wha

[cloud ibex]

Uncle Danny once pointed out that Ragnarok (Thorium's final boss) should get one of its projectiles remade since it reused a vanilla projectile sprite (LC's Ancient Doom)

[limpid saddle]

also on gravity to geometric space

[cloud ibex]

DivermanSam said "do it yourself"

was born

[limpid saddle]

I feel like actively bending the stars & celestial bodies to your will (the height of gravity manipulation) is far stronger than ordinance over geometric space

[split mortar]

Oh yeah doesn’t gravity also warp time

[limpid saddle]

yeah they're inherently connected

That's why a black holes event horizon warps time

[cloud ibex]

and Sacrifice doesn't sound nearly as widely applicable as straight up Death

godly domains tend to do that

[limpid saddle]

I'll admit the 'aftermath' theory is a little shaky on space, but im sure if i was better at math i could tie it together nicely with a bow & all

[spring helm]

ok but if you bend space enough, isn't that gravity

[split mortar]

Gravity also bends time

[limpid saddle]

I dont think so no

[split mortar]

Or well

Is the bending of spacetime

Not just space

[spring helm]

yeah

so space and time are intertwined so bending space also bends time

[limpid saddle]

Ok wait how the fuck does this work

We need to step back & think

[split mortar]

Shakidou ain’t the god of spacetime tho

[spring helm]

hm

[limpid saddle]

What actual abilities are granted by divine ordinance over 'geometric space'

like what the fuck does that mean

[cloud ibex]

we don't really know™️

[limpid saddle]

Exactly

[spring helm]

yeah but we can theorize

[dusk laurel]

The most we know is that they can't make blackholes

[split mortar]

I imagine it’s somewhat like gojos infinity

[limpid saddle]

So we literally cant make any speculation to it's capabilities

[split mortar]

But prob to a lesser degree

[spring helm]

yeah auric souls have a limit on how much reign they have on the domain

[limpid saddle]

So they can't compress matter on a molecular level

[spring helm]

again capping at below planet level

[cloud ibex]

i feel like Infinity would be the most extreme application of it in theory

[split mortar]

Or well, they can’t compress matter quick and strong enough to make atoms do that on a major scale

[cloud ibex]

i'm imagining that at the very least they could effectively teleport with it

[limpid saddle]

No black holes means no black holes

of any kind

[spring helm]

you wouldn't have to compress matter if you can just bend the space itself

[manic coral]

hello what are we talking about today

[spring helm]

how gravity leads to space in terms of domains

[limpid saddle]

What the capabilities of a 'god of geometric space' are

[spring helm]

also hi cei

[cloud ibex]

actually that would be kinda cool for their "kingdom" if they had one; basically a group of nomads that can easily travel long distances through ol' shaki bending space

[split mortar]

Shakidou

[dusk laurel]

shatplaydough

[spring helm]

can shakidou do instant transmission

[mighty zenith]

you have been a shakidou to my kingdom

[wheat walrus]

let the skyfall

i'm you, said the terrarian to the player

[split mortar]

Insert that terrarian image

[limpid saddle]

Also i've developed a theory that Gods who don't directly attain their Auric Souls aspect become it's aftermath

[cloud ibex]

💥

[split mortar]

TERRARIAN IS YOU
you
You
You
YOU HATE
DEMON

[dusk laurel]

Hey

Stop bypassing

[spring helm]

melon youre going to get muted

[mighty zenith]

🧑‍🦲
🫵

[wheat walrus]

you thought you could be the one who left it all behind, you thought you could be the exception, your keyboard and mouse meant nothing

[mighty zenith]

why is he bald

[spare pier]

Damn you guys really bombarded Cei with questions about the thing which she basically had no hand in

[wheat walrus]

i'm you, player

[spring helm]

can shakidou instant transmission

[split mortar]

Can we ask you?

[spare pier]

Nah

[wheat walrus]

who has a hand in space

[spare pier]

Teleport? In some capacity

[spring helm]

big lore!!!!

[spare pier]

Instant transmission? No

[wheat walrus]

blue

[split mortar]

-# what’s the difference

[spare pier]

Instant transmission is, as the name implies, instant

[limpid saddle]

rebecca

[spare pier]

Teleporting does not imply instantaneous proccess, but instantaneous movement

[wheat walrus]

it's probably that shaker can do some silver surfer type thing

[limpid saddle]

am i anywhere close on this one

[cloud ibex]

until further notice i'm sticking with the shakidou followers being a massive clan of nomads theory

[wheat walrus]

can't remember what exactly silver surfer was doing but I remember it being like travel through objects as a form of speedster thing, but not actual speedster stuff

[spring helm]

can i ask how they're going to be integrated into the game?

[spare pier]

Who knows? Maybe

[cloud ibex]

mostly cause imagining a massive caravan looks cool in my mind

[spare pier]

I'm not answering

[split mortar]

So Shakidou for brief moments go faster then light ?

[spring helm]

ok

[spare pier]

No

[limpid saddle]

That's.... enough

[spare pier]

[limpid saddle]

i'm happy

[spring helm]

like a warp drive or something right?

[wheat walrus]

one massive scaling change outta the way gng

[light linden]

Hey Rebecca can I get your opinion on something?

Please?

[spring helm]

actual speed doesn't go past light, but rather space bends to facilitate faster movement

[wheat walrus]

you know what else is massive

[limpid saddle]

i would post that gojo floating gif but no image perms

[spare pier]

Shakidou simply bends space in such a way that changes his position instantly, but that doesn't mean the process itself is instantaneous

[cloud ibex]

that's what i imagined

[split mortar]

Ah, gojo
Got it

[cloud ibex]

portals, essentially

[spring helm]

there's a charge up time

[limpid saddle]

like the hand from jojos bizzare adventure part 4

[spare pier]

If I had to say, I imagine it as basically pulling out a curtain, hiding behind it, and showing up in another place

[wheat walrus]

infinite 3d feat for yharim by punching through a shaker equivalent of infinite space

[spring helm]

D4C

[limpid saddle]

except it bends space around him instead of destroying it

[spare pier]

More like Uru from JJK

[wheat walrus]

D4C from Walmart more like

[spare pier]

She does literally that

[wheat walrus]

Uro*

:/

[spring helm]

shut up

[wheat walrus]

the sky woman

[spring helm]

i take it back im sorry

[limpid saddle]

hah, i havent read the manga

[spare pier]

Kills you

[split mortar]

I haven’t smelt jjk, how am I meant to know

[wheat walrus]

shut up reb you didn't

[split mortar]

Wrong sense

Read

[mighty zenith]

just just kidding

[limpid saddle]

& i still got spoiled for literally everything

[spring helm]

LMAO

[wheat walrus]

😭

[spring helm]

so is xeroc able to go lightspeed?

[split mortar]

I mixed up the senses

[spare pier]

Teleporting is honestly the coolest fucking power imo

It's like, such a simple thing but there are so many cool ways of using it

[limpid saddle]

I like portals

they are my favourite form of teleportation

[spring helm]

it's just so convenient

[split mortar]

Despite how simple it’s handled I like the way mob psycho uses it

[wheat walrus]

not too big of a spoiler, at least on JJK's side, JJBA's side tho

[spare pier]

Also yeah I do think Shakidou can to some extent manipulate the space around other people

[spring helm]

dojyan

[limpid saddle]

No i mean i was spoiled for EVERYTHING

[spare pier]

But not strongly enough to just

Snap someone in half

[wheat walrus]

whar

oh you mean already, not now

[spring helm]

can they spaghettify someone

[limpid saddle]

||Nobara being alive|| was spoiled to me in a fucking omori discord meme chat because some idiot posted it no warning

[spare pier]

No that goes into "strongly enough"

[spring helm]

oh ok

[mighty zenith]

teleportation is awesome but the most "realistic" potrayal of it is kinda fucking terrifying?

[dusk laurel]

[spare pier]

That'd be basically

[wheat walrus]

I managed to morph this word into Rajang with my own mind

[spare pier]

Creating a gravitational force equivalent to that of a black hole

So like no

[mighty zenith]

its always sick in fiction though i just dont want that to become real because it'd probably lead to getting horrifically mangled and misplaced

[indigo glade]

Make sure to keep up with Earth's rotation and it moving in space, as well as the entire Solar System moving!

[split mortar]

It’s basically a bomb getting set off while you appear somewhere right?

[wheat walrus]

and I thought Omori fans were restrictive about spoilers dqawg 😭

[limpid saddle]

i gotta respect the writers willingness to come in here & talk about this this must be the most annoying shit ever ngl

[spring helm]

Shakidou will exist solely to upscale Yharim because they performed the ||World Cutting Slash|| and Yharim no-sold it

[indigo glade]

Also, make sure to not have any air particles in places there shouldn't be air particles.

[spare pier]

LMAO

[dusk laurel]

Auric Man

[wheat walrus]

please no Infinite 3D or 4D Yharim scaling please

[spring helm]

YHARIM AGENDA POSTING

[dusk laurel]

Can Deus get a nibble of Yharim

[spring helm]

only as a treat

[wheat walrus]

you do know all the uni+ stuff from funny places will become real

[spring helm]

🥺

[wheat walrus]

and this isn't just yharim this is anything relative to him :/

[mighty zenith]

reddit is gonna be ecstatic

[split mortar]

Anything relative to Shakidou actually wouldn’t it

[spring helm]

nah, my goat has no one relative to him

[split mortar]

So scal and exos aswell

And jared

[light linden]

Inner pieces from Titanfall?

[wheat walrus]

depends, can Shakidou tank his own WCS equivalent attack, I specify this cause while usually AP = Dura, I assume that Shakidou would use this more like a Hax ability that doesn't affect his own normal AP and Dura

[split mortar]

Ah ok

[limpid saddle]

Not powerscaling calamity 😭

[light linden]

Is Shakidou the name of the space god?

[wheat walrus]

you're not ready

[light linden]

Idr

[split mortar]

Omni is the local powerscaler

[split mortar]

Yes

[spring helm]

Crack open Cryogen and Permafrost hits you with the

Ahh... Free at last. Oh Yharim. Now dawns thy reckoning, and thy gore shall glisten before the temples of man.

[light linden]

Reminds me of a digimon

[wheat walrus]

the end of me

[mighty zenith]

emode cryogen literally does that

[light linden]

The combo of Angemon and Ankylomon

[limpid saddle]

miserable

[split mortar]

?

[dusk laurel]

Yes.

[wheat walrus]

I always see emode and think of either emote or egirls/boys

[split mortar]

Unlike some they don’t try to make the verse hypercringeversal

[wheat walrus]

nuuuu

[spring helm]

look, if i have a bomb, that doesn't mean im building level

[light linden]

Idr the name of them digimon

[wheat walrus]

😭

[spring helm]

my AP don't scale to my dura

[light linden]

Shakkoumon I think

[wheat walrus]

that's not your ap that's the bomb's

[spring helm]

is my bomb

is my AP

[light linden]

Hey Omni can I ask a power scaling question?

[wheat walrus]

if you are the one creating explosions as some form of attack and survive your own attacks then yea

[wheat walrus]

alr

[light linden]

Actually first off I should prolly ask

Have you played any of the digimon games?

[wheat walrus]

(blades/hammers can count btw, depends on circumstance but if this blade or hammer can just destroy a mountain physically through sheer power rather than a specific ability, and it's on your hands then that's gonna affect your durability)

[light linden]

Specifically the cyber sleuth ones?

[wheat walrus]

nop

[light linden]

Well damn

[split mortar]

Rip

[light linden]

You prolly wouldn't be able to answer the question then

[spring helm]

Ough

[wheat walrus]

heard smth about the series and remember seeing some anime stuff as a child, but it didn't grab me much either ngl

not saying it's bad, more like it's not my kinda stuff

[light linden]

The cyber sleuth games are fucking amazing

Especially the music

[wheat walrus]

as for the series, I did hear it has some crazy scaling but I never bothered to deepdive as it isn't talked much either ways

[limpid saddle]

i watched the shit out of digimon fusion

& thats it

[light linden]

Let me put it this way

The power scaling entirely depends on the specific piece of media

[wheat walrus]

most I got was some dude in a comment section of some friends' videos spamming a vs request, some digimon that he scaled to hyperversal VS ruiner nergigante??? I think it was

[light linden]

And how old the creature is basically

[split mortar]

What

[wheat walrus]

not saying digimon is hyperversal just saying that the guy scaled it to such level

[wheat walrus]

yep

[light linden]

A literal sentient piece of poop can become a threat to the multiverse if given enough time

[wheat walrus]

ruiner nergigante is multi-continent level at most

[spring helm]

Where does injured moon lord scale again

[split mortar]

Deus is nearly city so either low city or high town

[wheat walrus]

astrum deus meteor earthquake feat, large town level+ or small city by upscaling

[wheat walrus]

incredible

[mighty zenith]

erm... astrum deus actually scales to outerversal

his name LITERALLY has god in it

[wheat walrus]

upscales to slime god yea

[mighty zenith]

he cant be weaker than that

[light linden]

The way the whole evolution system works is the cause

Where if something evolved and devolved in the right way it could go from

[spare pier]

Omw to say Yharim cut "Space themselves"

[light linden]

A holy knight to a giant whale

[wheat walrus]

yea there you have it reb

[spring helm]

Why is Deus town level for that

[wheat walrus]

math

[light linden]

Or from literal digimon Satan to the right hand of God

[split mortar]

-# make time also a casualty somehow and boom, even higher I’m pretty sure

[spring helm]

No like, wouldn’t most of that energy come from the weight of the meteor

[split mortar]

Deus still had the power to throw it

[spare pier]

Jokes aside I really couldn't give less of a shit about this matchup because, shocker

Hyperbole

[light linden]

They literally just need enough time

[spring helm]

🤯

But Reddit said…

[spare pier]

Y'know Deus could've just pushed it towards the atmosphere and let it fall

[split mortar]

Idk how meteors speed

[wheat walrus]

astrum deus threw it hard enough to cause the earthquake, gravity could have had a hand but when I calculated its Kinetic Energy using the average speed of a meteor falling rather than an actual throw it gave like

[spare pier]

Because of Earth's gravity

[limpid saddle]

power scaling makes me irrationally angry & i dont know why

[wheat walrus]

microscopic energy in comparison to an actual earthquake

[mighty zenith]

he held it in his mouth like a dog with a tennis ball

[wheat walrus]

it's the people being toxic

[spare pier]

Tbf it does fall pretty close by

[light linden]

Hey Rebecca can I ask a question about another continent please?

[spare pier]

Shoot

[split mortar]

You’re also hundreds of meters underground when it called iirc

[light linden]

That volcanic hellhole one

[spare pier]

Oh yeah it can happen while you're in the Underworld huh

[light linden]

Is it like that because it is newly formed?

[spare pier]

I don't know what you're talking about

[light linden]

Am

[dusk laurel]

Cei made it afaik

[split mortar]

The continent worse then pre hardmode heartlands

[dusk laurel]

better to ask her

[light linden]

Did that fall mess up my memory?

[split mortar]

Ah

[light linden]

Oh

Sorry lmao

[split mortar]

Not as far as I know

[light linden]

Lmk when cei is here ig

I'm gonna try to rest some more

[split mortar]

Ping them

[light linden]

This pain is becoming unbearable

[light linden]

I don't wanna annoy them

[split mortar]

Oh fuck uh

Go rest

[light linden]

I'll still be on my phone

Just I need to lay down

Instead of sitting at my desk

[split mortar]

Dumb question Omni
Why would calamity characters possibly fucking up shakidou result in an upscale and not some of the characters just resisting space manipulation?

[light linden]

Ok I am back

[light linden]

I feel bad for even pinging devs while they're here to have a question asked lmao

[split mortar]

Fair

[magic epoch]

yet it's still not the one I'd choose first... I mean it's up there but

[spare pier]

Don't be

[light linden]

Rebecca been meaning to ask

[spare pier]

Hum

[light linden]

Are the different elements of magic considered their own schools of magic in calamity?

[spare pier]

Uuuuuh

I don't know exactly what you mean

But Mana can be used to create anything you can think of (under reason)

[split mortar]

Time manipulation

[light linden]

E.g. Cryomancy and Electromancy

[spare pier]

Yeah

[light linden]

Are those considered different schools of magic?

[spare pier]

Dunno

[spring helm]

how is mana manipulated into magic
is it like through imagination, or mathematical formulas, or something else?

[spare pier]

I also can't really explain

[spring helm]

ok fair enough

[spare pier]

It's a process natural to people in the universe which I don't think can be properly explained in human terms

[gritty kraken]

Lore discussion reinventing magic again

[light linden]

Would it be spoilers?

[spare pier]

It's like explaining to a universe where heat doesn't exist how you produce heat

[split mortar]

I think a mix of both

It’s not fully logical since draedon has little understanding but it’s logical enough to be controlled in known ways with a known outcome

[limpid saddle]

fair

[split mortar]

Though yeah that’s just my guess and that’s a vague guess

[wheat walrus]

the kinetic energy calculation used the weight of a meteor (separated by asteroids, who are as large as cities often times; so the meteor I used was 60 metric tons, 60000 kg), while using the average speed of a falling meteor from orbit, 11 kilometers per second and that gave almost 900 tnt tons, almost small town level

there is a statement about how there was an earthquake around start of hardmode from the guide, the guide in calamity has 2 statements at the start of hardmode, one talking about checking out Hell since he left a friend in there, the other one talking about an earthquake caused by something otherworldly; last I checked the astral meteor falls around that time

so I calculated the power of a magnitude 4,5 earthquake (average magnitude of an earthquake that is felt but doesn't cause important damage) using the formula that is utilized for meteor-triggered earthquakes specifically, that gave almost 900 kilo tons, 1000 times the kinetic energy calc

so unless the statement doesn't refer to Astral Meteor falling, which I assumed both because of the reasons I said earlier and because the astral meteor causing a shaking effect when you're around it last I checked, then this calc should be correct and scale to Astrum Deus since the meteor most definitely wasn't just dropped to have 1000x the energy it would have if it just fell because of gravity

[light linden]

Also obligatory-

[limpid saddle]

alright gn chat i need to sleep

[light linden]

Holy shit

[limpid saddle]

sweet christ

[spare pier]

Though, I guess the closest way of explaining it is that it's similar to how one would put atoms into molucles to produce new elements

[limpid saddle]

[wheat walrus]

that's average when I wanna explain myself :p

[spare pier]

But obviously, it's not as precise as that

[spring helm]

ok i get it now

[spare pier]

Otherwise using Mana would be just molecular manipulation

And it's not that

[wheat walrus]

unless it's stated that they specifically resisted it through a form of ability, that's just being that strong :/

[light linden]

Thatsashinyalphssneadelbrb

[split mortar]

Fair

[spring helm]

auric shield

[spare pier]

As Cosmic Mine says, spatial distortions are rapidly corrected in a quick burst energy

[spring helm]

resists divine power

[spare pier]

So it's very easy to say that Shakidou's main power is just that

Causing spatial distortions and therefore strong bursts of energy

Which one could tank through

[light linden]

I just noticed your pfp is iono lmao

[wheat walrus]

how strong

[spare pier]

Strong enough to hurt, weak enough for people to not be instantly vaporized by

[split mortar]

Probably depends on the portal

[spare pier]

It's not just a portal, as I said

Spatial distortions in general

[light linden]

I caught the sneasel

Ok back to what I was about to ask

[split mortar]

Depends on the spatial distortion I think

Ceaseless void would prob be a gigantic fucking energy burst while dogs are not harmful until the fireballs

[wheat walrus]

besides, cosmic mine says this
"Tearing a rift into our world from the distortion takes vast amounts of energy; that is, unless you are a being of both worlds. Signus alone can create these portals with such ease, but even it cannot sustain them for long before the energy used to open them violently disperses" seems a lot less like the spatial distortion disperses the energy, and more like creating one is what takes energy

[spare pier]

God imagine if DoG's rework gives him a giant fucking flamethrower through his mouth

[light linden]

Is the automatic portal closing akin to the process of antimatter being created and then immediately vaporized?

[light linden]

leak

[spare pier]

I'd like to say yes but I both don't know if that'd be accurate nor do I think it gives the right implication

[split mortar]

Dog is a dragon cinfirmed?!!?

[dusk laurel]

Killing you

[light linden]

Oh god

[spare pier]

It's more just

[wheat walrus]

so I say, if a nuke could not create this, we are stronger than it

[light linden]

Now someone is gonna bring that to reddit and cause a shitshow

[spare pier]

The universe goes "nuh uh, not allowed" and just corrects shit

[wheat walrus]

man having only server emotes (and default) available is so ass

[split mortar]

@spring helm mark getting told off is apparently accurate

[spring helm]

this is literally what happens like half the time whenever my OC tries to do anything

lmao

[light linden]

So I guess more akin to quarks outside of a neutron star?

[spare pier]

Yeah, would be accurate I think

[spring helm]

MARK IS LORE ACCURATE

[spare pier]

Now I know even less

[light linden]

Basically

[spare pier]

Just, view it as a universal law

[spring helm]

wait what

[spare pier]

"Space cannot be distorted"

If it is, it will be corrected as soon as possible

[spring helm]

hold on i lost track of the convo when did we talk about quarks

[light linden]

Quarks as a universal law can only be stable when up or down quarks

[wheat walrus]

yep, because the sun can't open a distortion then we are star level lowball

:p

[light linden]

But neutron stars can theoretically break this limit

[dusk laurel]

Strange

[light linden]

Which can create what is being called strange matter

[spare pier]

And yeah, as Omni put it, when the distortion is corrected, the energy put into creating it is violently released back into the universe

[light linden]

Any others outside of neutron stars are either erased from existence or forced into being up or down

This is all quantum physics though iirc

[split mortar]

Erased from existence???
Thermodynamics?

[spring helm]

basically, when there is enough energy in a small localized area, a pair of elementary particles of opposite charges will spontaneously appear and then immediately annihilate each other, releasing the energy they were made from again

[light linden]

It's weird

[split mortar]

SO MATTEE CAN BE CREATED IR DESTRIYED?

[spring helm]

no

[light linden]

I'm not sure if quarks are matter

[spare pier]

Yeah I know that but I still don't think it's accurate

[light linden]

They make up protons and stuff

[spare pier]

Idk trying to compare things to phenomenons in our universe is just wrong

They might be similar, but never equal

[light linden]

iirc there's 6 quarks

[wheat walrus]

universe?

universe level gang

[light linden]

And they form 3 pairs

[spare pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704694434964439071/1284577245796634675/cat_gets_splash_stupid_idot.gif

[wheat walrus]

aight aight

I assume it's about density

[light linden]

Top and bottom

Strange and charm

Up and down

[spring helm]

ok how about this

In a black hole, gravity is so intense at the singularity that space and time switch. This means that spatial movement in the black hole is actually movement through time, and the singularity exists in the future rather than the present. Of course, because causality doesn't work like that, the event horizon kind of "shields" the singularity away from the rest of the universe, forcing anything that could observe it to be separate from the rest of the universe as well.

[spare pier]

Yeah I know how that stuff works

[light linden]

And to my knowledge every pair but up and down are too unstable outside of a neutron star

[spring helm]

so still not close?

[light linden]

Or at the very least too unstable on their own

Makes sense?

[wheat walrus]

and something similar to energy/mass conversion, but instead of conversion it works like this:
focus a shitton of energy in an extremely small place, say something possibly as small as atoms or even planck size if we wanna be real, more energy than there can be in such a space; reaching an energy density limit but instead of using it as a reverse mass/energy conversion (which is what nukes do to create energy), you force it to remain energy which farts a distortion

[spring helm]

fart

[sinful adder]

They are. Everything in existence counts as matter

[spare pier]

It's not that I think they aren't close

I just think it's wrong to compare them

[spring helm]

oh well, i guess the best explanation will be
"the universe doesn't like that so it blows it up"

[wheat walrus]

then the energy getting farted back is because you can't remove or add energy, only modify it unless you're some rock from ilmeris that a god really liked

das my theory

[spare pier]

I don't think it's this but rather a brand of magic, but as to how said brand of magic would work?

Yeah I think this is a sensible theory

[wheat walrus]

"gods are weak" mfs after realizing that draedon only broke thermodynamics because a god did it first

[spring helm]

otonilou bias for real

i can't believe the one to break the laws of thermodynamics is the one piece reference

[sinful adder]

Real life allows the kind of space distortion that is being discussed here

It's called gravity

[wheat walrus]

I'm mon ster hunter, I need explanations for my earth crust being reshaped by the crackhead looking dragon and for my sigmus creating a portal

[sinful adder]

And mass