lore-discussion

[untold oracle]

Profit:

[hushed geyser]

Still makes it evil

[green bay]

Im not evil cuz i said so now go back to work

[untold oracle]

Well yeah ofc and it’s sickening that people use it as an excuse

Greed will be the downfall of humanity

[hushed geyser]

Committing horrible acts for selfish reason is arguably worse than doing it for no reason

[warm gull]

slavery is not an objective evil because again, objective evil does not exist. But I still believe that anyone who practices it deserves to suffer and die

[hushed geyser]

Objective evil can't exist because everyone has different morals and thus some believe what they are doing is for the greater good, even if it is horrible

[deft vessel]

Or the tought that slaves are objects and they now have the right to use them as such

[warm gull]

objective evil cannot exist because nothing is really objective in the first place

[hushed geyser]

The only thing that would be objective is you existing

[warm gull]

that isn't objective

[green bay]

It kinda is

You cant say i dont exist

Cuz thats bot true

[hushed geyser]

From my point of view me existing is objective

That's what I meant

[cloud ibex]

do you think

[warm gull]

"from my point of view" is inherently subjective

[hushed geyser]

To other people

[untold oracle]

I think therefore I am

[warm gull]

well I wouldn't have even known that you existed before I met you for the first time during this conversation

[untold oracle]

But if a person is braindead but their body still functions do they ”exist”

[warm gull]

do you know what objective means?

[cloud ibex]

(also just a reminder that I Am Watching if this convo starts to get uncivil i can and will start hitting people's shins with hammers

((i am always watching

[green bay]

I exist regardless if you know it or not tho

[untold oracle]

The city needs you

[hushed geyser]

^

[untold oracle]

[spring helm]

Crazy how I’ve seen a conversation on the objectiveness of evil twice in a week now

[deft vessel]

Would work better if you had a really goofy pfp

[thick slate]

nuclear bomb in lore chat

[spring helm]

Blades, just start killing people

[warm gull]

the cat in schrodinger's box exists in only one state from its own perspective

[spring helm]

It’s not evil

[green bay]

We be thinkers

[hushed geyser]

I thought you stayed out of lore chat

[untold oracle]

How so?

[spring helm]

Idk

[deft vessel]

I think this is the third time

[thick slate]

no i like lore chat

[hushed geyser]

Liar

[thick slate]

ive just been inactive recently

[cloud ibex]

only sun dude for now sorry

[green bay]

Thats because smart people decided to think of funny mechanics

[spring helm]

Where is the other mod person

Add

Bring all the mods here

[hoary cape]

Please Shockwave do not blow up lore chat how else would I get my daily lore info

[cloud ibex]

add isn't real

[deft vessel]

[gritty kraken]

tru

[spring helm]

Anyway

[thick slate]

💥

[hushed geyser]

I should be a philosophy major and get famous

[warm gull]

basically like

[hoary cape]

Dang didn't realize addition wasn't a thing now we can't get bigger numbers by putting two together

[hushed geyser]

2 2 = 4

[deft vessel]

Ye they removed it in the new update

[hoary cape]

Multiplication is just addition, but with less steps though

[warm gull]

if one of you never spoke on discord again, I would have no idea whether or not you existed anymore from my perspective, therefore making your existence subjectively ambiguous to myself.

did we say the word slavery too many times and then trigger some kid of mod system to send all the mods here

[spring helm]

Lone wolf calamitas

“Get the hell out of my neighbourhood” Calamitas

[green bay]

Mhh skill issue (im too dumb to absosrb knowledge)

[deft vessel]

🚨alarm alarm🚨
They are speaking about slavery

[hoary cape]

I was just summoned by lore channel having posts didn't realize I would awake to this convo though

[spring helm]

Gecko posting

[untold oracle]

Awh so she might know everyday skills..,

[split mortar]

Oh nice?

[split mortar]

Just means she had them before getting powers

Skills can be lost or heavily less the. They were if not used for long enough

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah true

[sleek halo]

a lot of mods

wowzers

[split mortar]

Well that happens when some lore chat people who are frequently active become trial mods

[cloud ibex]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/186VNpJN9Vc_CAsFIxzMT0xMNjqY52wRHb0W8vPjvPbc/edit?usp=sharing hi chat

[hoary berry]

👀

[cloud ibex]

xeroc here is not at all accurate to how xeroc talks in game but idc i prefer chill stoner xeroc

[deft vessel]

Gotta figure out Yharons personality from RotJD lyrics

[hoary berry]

quite based

i enjoy how you made xeroc speak much more than how i made xeroc speak

[untold oracle]

Ol’ Atheism Prime is a peak nickname

[split mortar]

Yeah it is

[cloud ibex]

the Stranger repeatedly and consistently shows that they do not give a shit about status or titles or the like

[untold oracle]

I like how you made Xeroc speak in acts(?)

Also stoner Xeroc cool as hell

[sleek halo]

I personally think Xeroc would be rather chill in conversations

yk unless it was important

[cloud ibex]

the point of reference was actually more how the bible is divided

cause y'know they're a god and all that

discworld has permanently imprinted itself into my cerebral cortex and now i love giving characters special ways of writing their speech to differentiate them from everyone else

xeroc has the "chapters", the Stranger always speaks in all caps, draedon basically speaks in java

[untold oracle]

Yeah chapters

[split mortar]

Draedon is a Java ai confirmed

[untold oracle]

I could prolly also include different ways of speech

Rn I only have Provi (maybe other gods too) speaking in bold

[untold oracle]

Draedon was forced to use javascript 😔

[pliant ruin]

nya

[split mortar]

You will become a Java script program

[dusk laurel]

mrrp

[cloud ibex]

i considered choosing a font type like this instead because it was fancier but i concluded it would just make it harder to read

[hoary berry]

does thanatos communicate in python?
(get it (serpent (snake (python (haha

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

That should be dog

[untold oracle]

Commander cheese

[cloud ibex]

that would've been funny if i bothered to write a proper fight for the exos instead of skipping to them already being dead

[pliant ruin]

based

[cloud ibex]

the start of the SCal chapter was already kinda hard for me to visualize in my head

[devout grotto]

Peak after peak...

I really should try writing again

[untold oracle]

You should

[jaunty niche]

The lore item of anahita says:

Elementals such as her pose a grave threat to all those around them. Other Elementals are no exception.

[split mortar]

For once yharim is correct

Except for silva

[jaunty niche]

Does it mean that elementals threat all the creatures, or just other elementals

[untold oracle]

They seek domain expansion

[split mortar]

Well they want to spread their domain

And I doubt spreading earth is going to go well for water animals

Or whatever sand is trying to do

[jaunty niche]

It's so wierd if they threat all the creatures

[devout grotto]

Kinda got inspired to write something with Amatsumara and Kagura (essentially their miko, may change the name tho) because of this

[split mortar]

They spread their domain without care for the creatures

Except brim who targeted azafure but idk that seems rather flammable

[jaunty niche]

@devout grotto Hey, your and mine nicknames mean the opposite

[devout grotto]

Oooo nice

👀

[jaunty niche]

so that sentense might just mean that silva threats everything that does not exactly match the theme of "life"?

[jaunty niche]

[split mortar]

The theme of life is well

Being alive

So spreading her domain actively makes more things live

[untold oracle]

Note that where other elementals seem to lack higher sapience Silva is sentient and very possibly more peaceful

Also Silva is a goddess now

[split mortar]

And a elemental

But yeah

Silva is the exception I imagine to most elemental rules

[jaunty niche]

The whole lore of anahita is this:

Although she claims dominion over all the world's oceans, in truth she is a recluse of the deep.
Elementals such as her pose a grave threat to all those around them. Other Elementals are no exception.
Anahita was driven from her home in the Abyss by Silva's encroaching greenery.
Accounts vary as to the majestic beast at her side. Some claim Anahita summoned the Leviathan herself.Regardless of what you believe, they are inseparable even in death.
Such stalwart loyalty! It reminds me of Yharon.

Anahita is driven away anyways

[untold oracle]

Yeah she lived in abyss

Then Silva became her roommate but she couldn’t stand her so she left

[jaunty niche]

silva did drive away anahita

[split mortar]

She got thrown in

And anahita left due to that

[jaunty niche]

I'm just curious about the grave threat, you are not in grave threat just because of a vegetable roommate... who maybe also lack of boundaries

[cloud ibex]

imagining silva going "hiiiii!!!!!!!!! hello!!!!!!!!!!!! hiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" as her mutilated corpse drifts down towards the bottom

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Well every other elemental attacks us on sight

Silva may not

[cloud ibex]

and anahita's just like "oh my fucking lord you have got to be shitting me"

[split mortar]

But

How is anahita meant to know

[untold oracle]

”:3:3:3”
”what the fuck”

[dusk laurel]

I like the idea of Silva being really, really annoying to the other elementals

[hoary berry]

clingy best friend (she wants the best for you but doesn't know how to show it)

[cloud ibex]

she's almost insufferably friendly to everyone but the other elementals hate each other

[jaunty niche]

well, there were already at least two beings tried to kill her and throw her in the abyss

[untold oracle]

Yeah I imagine silva as an overenergized clingy ”best friend” to other elementals

[dusk laurel]

I mean

Life cannot exist without the other 4

So it makes sense

[untold oracle]

Perfect

That’s officially my headcanon now

[jaunty niche]

~~ really? life can not exist without even brimstone? ~~

[cloud ibex]

all the other elementals going "I FUCKING HATE YOU AND I HOPE YOU DIE" while silva's going ":D"

[dusk laurel]

Heat (Brimmy)
Earth (Sand)
Water (Anahita)
Air (Cloud)

[hoary berry]

are there any weapons that just scream 'Silva would use this' (aside from the grax line)

[indigo glade]

Axe of Regrowth.

:)

[hoary berry]

in my brain axe of regrowth is part of the grax line

[dusk laurel]

Spore Knife

[untold oracle]

Blade of grass

[split mortar]

Uh
Silva armour

[untold oracle]

Yeah man!

[split mortar]

Silva wings

She is the mage set

[hoary berry]

gets weapon
looks inside
armour

[split mortar]

[split mortar]

Anyways uh

Plantation staff or any life shard weapon

Or any plantera weapon

[hoary berry]

the other elementals when silva rocks up to the party with a grenade launcher 😨

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Fucki
Ye
Uh
May
Be
Not
Every
Plant weapon then

[dusk laurel]

Why did you split maybe

[cloud ibex]

My child…

[split mortar]

Whose fetus?

[cloud ibex]

Plantation staff is my child

It arose from the depths of my mind

[split mortar]

Whar

Scok do you know what they on about

[indigo glade]

Don't forget her metal guitar, too!

[split mortar]

Silva is a metal head confirmed?

[indigo glade]

And also a standard leafblower.

[cloud ibex]

Check the wiki I would never lie

[split mortar]

That one actually uses plant

[hoary cape]

People never lie on the internet

[hoary berry]

[cloud ibex]

It’s true but I would especially never lie

[split mortar]

You ain’t providab

[cloud ibex]

[jaunty niche]

no one cares about the earth elemental

[cloud ibex]

He doesn’t know…

[dusk laurel]

Earth ele is a fake

[split mortar]

Earth is stinky and cringe

Sand is true

[jaunty niche]

the sand elemental even appear twice in the heart of elementals

[mighty zenith]

we should kill rare sandy

[jaunty niche]

what's her story

[untold oracle]

Why :(

She silly

[dusk laurel]

Earth elemental, the one you fight is a robot

Sand elemental is the real one

[jaunty niche]

robot made by whom

[mighty zenith]

earth elemental is a robot thats why he's so cool...

[dusk laurel]

Azafurians

No

[split mortar]

Azafure

[wheat walrus]

this goes hard

[jaunty niche]

After the Brimstone Elemental became dormant, the forgemasters of Azafure used clockwork and crystal to bind the powers of an elemental to a mechanical body. While formidable, it seems the dream of creating a true replacement for an elemental died unfulfilled with Azafure itself.

Also her internal name is "Horse", wierd

[visual bane]

remember when earth elemental was a horse...

[jaunty niche]

Oh no, the sand elemental is...

[visual bane]

i wasn't there but did anyone genuinely remember

[split mortar]

Reminds me of that “I’ll kill the next person I’ll see”
Then a dog walks round the corner and is like
“Hai hello it’s so nice to be here!”

Think it’s from the same thing as eggman pissing on the moon

[visual bane]

i dont think it's the same thing as eggman pissing on the moon

[untold oracle]

Anahita: ”I’ve come to make an announcement. Silva the Life God’s a bitchass motherfucker.”

[split mortar]

Not the same thing

From the same thing

[visual bane]

well i know snapcube

[cloud ibex]

it's from the snapcube until dawn dub i think

so yes it's from the same people as eggman pissing on the moon

[mighty zenith]

yeah

[jaunty niche]

how inaccurate is it to say Desert Scourge is a "worm"

[summer rover]

The bestiary calls it a sea serpent

[split mortar]

It’s some kind of lizard worm semi aquatic thing

[jaunty niche]

lizard...?

[dusk laurel]

It's a reptile

An amphibious one

[jaunty niche]

there are basilisks in vanilla hardmode desert. are they relative?

[dusk laurel]

Basilisks are Draconic Offshoots

[split mortar]

They may be a draconic offshoot iirc

[jaunty niche]

okay...

[jaunty niche]

it just should be, or did any devs claim so

[dusk laurel]

Dragonfolly bestiary entry

Wait no

The Yharim whisper

Not the bestiary entry

[jaunty niche]

Near the close of the Draconic Era, there are records of the "impure" Dragon species.
Wyverns, basilisks, Pigrons and the like are documented. Though none are sure how exactly they came to be.

[river python]

Wyverns have blood of dragon?

[split mortar]

Yes

Vetrasyl

Offshoot of them

[river python]

I thought only "Abysal Wyrms", "Fishrons" and DragonFollys are impure dragons

I didn't know that wyverns too

[split mortar]

Well now you know

[river python]

Is another auric dragon alive?

[dusk laurel]

Jut Yharon

[river python]

Yharon doesn't count

[untold oracle]

They are the closest offshoots, wyverns are further relatives

[river python]

Oh

[river python]

Yharon is the last?

[dusk laurel]

Yep

[river python]

Jared is stronger than Noxus?

[split mortar]

jared is weaker then yharim

But above scal

[river python]

Well, we don't know so much about Noxus

[dusk laurel]

Noxus is stronger than Yharim so

[split mortar]

Noxus may be capable of more destruction then even xeroc iirc

And will be after yharim in progression

[river python]

The final boss who will be? (Not counting superbosses)

[cloud ibex]

yharim

[river python]

Okay

I heard that Yharim is the next boss, is that real?

[dusk laurel]

Yes

Not anytime soon

[split mortar]

Yharim (final boss)

Noxus (first superboss)

Xeroc (last superboss)

[light linden]

ngl

[split mortar]

They plan on reworking most of the game before adding yharim iirc

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[light linden]

I kinda don't want a Xeroc fight

[river python]

So the Calamity Mod? Is near to end?

[light linden]

it feels pointless knowing we can't win

[dusk laurel]

No

[river python]

Thats so sad

😦

[dusk laurel]

Calamity still has many years

Updates don't come that quickly

[river python]

Oh

So how much to Yharim to release? I heard that Yharim will be uploaded in two years in 2021

[dusk laurel]

There are many, many things planned to be done before Yharim

Release dates are not a thing done by Calamity

[split mortar]

Sunken sea overhaul
Brimstone crags overhaul
Astral overhaul
Profaned biome
Distortion

I think that’s the general major updates

[dusk laurel]

Profaned is likely coming with the Crags

Or before

[split mortar]

Ah

[river python]

Before yharim we could craft the exo-auric armor i thought

[split mortar]

Nah
We get just Exo armour from exos

[river python]

The armor of Yharim is the exo-auric amor

[split mortar]

Yea

[dusk laurel]

We don't get it

[split mortar]

But we can’t use it

[river python]

Why not?

[split mortar]

Due to it being able to reject us

And being like twice as big as us

[river python]

We have fragments of the soul of Yharon

Oh

[split mortar]

Yharims armour still has the reject ability auric ore does

[dusk laurel]

Major and minor updates afaik
Sunken -> Acid Rain -> Crags -> Astral -> Distortion -> Aerie

[split mortar]

Oh yeah acid rain

[dusk laurel]

Also these updates come with a lot of other things in them

[split mortar]

^

By the time we get to like astral the game would be vastly different

[dusk laurel]

And then maybe Noxus and Xeroc after the Aerie

[split mortar]

Yea

[river python]

The mods can make the map more huge?

[split mortar]

No

[snow mountain]

no, just subworlds

[dusk laurel]

They can but

[river python]

Hmm

[split mortar]

It would fuck up world gen

[snow mountain]

like really gunk up world gen

[dusk laurel]

Generally it causes issues and makes cross-mod compatibility way harder

[river python]

Subworld library (the mod that is used to support the Wotg) is so bug in MP

[split mortar]

They would like to make their own subworld thing instead

[river python]

I hope

[dusk laurel]

The Cal devs plan to make their own

[split mortar]

🐌

[river python]

Why you send a snail

[dusk laurel]

Kills you

[split mortar]

[light linden]

the astral infection bosses all have latin names right?

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[light linden]

hmm

I need to think of a name for my astral infection boss

[stark basalt]

Some nerd mod gave me a warning

well, time for me to vanish for the next month

[cosmic minnow]

why

[stark basalt]

Cause I am "spamming memes" here

Ah yes, sending a meme once a day.

Try me mods, ban me, i will come back with alts.

[mighty zenith]

i don't think that's helping your case

[cloud ibex]

you know you're not exactly helping your case right

[light linden]

^

[stark basalt]

Womp womp, im not doing anything harmful.

[cloud ibex]

like if anything this is proof that we should ban you since you're immediately refusing to comply

[light linden]

like I agree what you're doing isn't bad but saying you're just gonna keep coming back with alts is very dumb

[mighty zenith]

neither are you bringing anything of worth by posting the exact same gif

[thick slate]

If you have any issues regarding your punishment you may contact Staff Mail

move on

[split mortar]

Yeah uh
Just vanish for a bit without making it look worse for yourself

[light linden]

do y'all know the latin word for mind?

[stark basalt]

Traitor.

[light linden]

[mighty zenith]

[dusk laurel]

Mens

[hoary cape]

It's apparently mens

[light linden]

you are not helping your case

[hoary cape]

According to Google translate

[light linden]

Astrum Mens sounds wrong

[hoary cape]

I mean it's Latin

[split mortar]

Wait yeah traitor

Getting even stinkier

[mighty zenith]

Astrum Cogitatio?

aka astral thought

[light linden]

for context btw

I'm tryna figure out a name for my add-on's astral infection boss

and lore wise they're kinda like the center of the hive mind

[mighty zenith]

hm

Astrum Imperio

[light linden]

albeit anyone who knew the boss's backstory would call them a dumbass

[split mortar]

Sapient being who let themselves be consumed iirc

So cosmic bliss trope

[light linden]

basically it was someone who willingly got infected to attempt to take control of the infection

[split mortar]

Oh

Not cosmic bliss

[light linden]

they failed obviously

and the infection used their sentient brain to strengthen the hive mind

[dusk laurel]

Astrum Usurpator?

[split mortar]

They failed so not really

[spare pier]

I'm almost suggesting Celestial Sapiens

[light linden]

what does usurpator mean?

usurper?

[spare pier]

Yeah

[split mortar]

Hai Rebecca

[light linden]

also hi rebecca

[spare pier]

Hi :D

[light linden]

speaking of my add-on

[dusk laurel]

Vas Astrale

[mighty zenith]

damnit

i was gonna suggest Vas

[spare pier]

I've been trying to write SCal's dialogue, it's almost done but I've been stuck on the last 5% stuff for A WHILE now

[split mortar]

Astrum stultus?

[light linden]

rebecca sentient beings have only been said to be immune to the infection from just being in the biome right?

[light linden]

stultus?

[split mortar]

Fool

[spare pier]

Yes, sapient beings are immune to the Infection

[split mortar]

Fool for thinking they could win

[light linden]

nobody has tried eating infected material?

[split mortar]

Could they willingly give themselves up to it?

[spare pier]

Yes

[split mortar]

There’s going to be astral fruits for us to it

[mighty zenith]

fuck it, just name them Patient Zero

and put them in uhh a lab

[light linden]

MoR?

[mighty zenith]

** **

[light linden]

I need to play that

[mighty zenith]

you do

MoR is great

[split mortar]

Yeah it’s pretty cool and I played it years ago

[light linden]

what does this mean?

[dusk laurel]

Astral Vessel

[mighty zenith]

astral vessel

[spare pier]

My interpretation is that the Astral Infection normally cannot infect anyone, however increased concentrations of it in someone's body is still harmful. This is why the debuff exists

[light linden]

I started a playthrough but then I heard a big update was coming so I stopped it

[spare pier]

Were someone to be blasted with enough of it, they'd be assimilated

[light linden]

oh also another thing about them I should prolly mention

[split mortar]

So the more astral mana on someone the more potent cosmic secrets it can give

[light linden]

the boss's goal is to start turning the infection into a black hole

[spare pier]

I'm wondering if I explain to people how the Infection works

[light linden]

likely non canon to whatever black holes are in the base mod

[spare pier]

It's really fucking simple so

[light linden]

but still

[split mortar]

Don’t we already know

[spare pier]

I purposefully left black holes out of Cal's canon cosmology

Because I think it's interesting to see what people come up with

[split mortar]

Not like there’s anything big enough to cause them

yet

[light linden]

in my add-on they're the end stage of astral infection

[spare pier]

I mean, chances are a black hole exists somewhere in the universe

And Draedon maybe observed or theorized about them

[light linden]

actually rebecca

[split mortar]

It’s just gravity so unless gravity is different then it’s theoretically possible

[spare pier]

But I still think it's way more interesting to leave it entirely blank to see what people come up with as their version of a black hole in Cal

[light linden]

are neutron stars canon?

[split mortar]

Irl Stars may not be canon so maybe not in the way we know them

[spare pier]

Maybe an equivalent, but not like they exist irl

[light linden]

iirc they do exist irl

[spare pier]

No I mean

Not like they might be irl

[light linden]

OH

sorry

[split mortar]

Maybe a normal star but it’s comprised of gravity magic (gravity dragon exists so there is the chance of that) and it results in it having comical gravity levels of sillies but idk just theory

[light linden]

I was thinking about a sentry for my add-on based on neutron stars and their magnetic fields but then realized idk if those even exist in calamity

[tardy geyser]

#other-mod-talk

[light linden]

I was providing context

[split mortar]

Would be #calamity-addon-talk actually since it’s a calamity addon

And they want to know the calamity lore on if it’s possible in the world so here may make some sense aswell?

[tardy geyser]

try to keep this channel on topic please

[tardy geyser]

[light linden]

also I was told add-on lore goes here too

[tardy geyser]

???

by whom?

[light linden]

uh give me a minute

it was a while back

[visual kiln]

p

[visual kiln]

whats stopping u from making them exist

[light linden]

garbo

[visual kiln]

@mighty zenith explain

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

plumg

[visual kiln]

eats garbo

consumption of turtle

[pliant ruin]

i mean the way i see it as long as ur generally talking about something adjacent to the calamity lore it's fine

[visual kiln]

^

catspin~1

[pliant ruin]

talking about which any lore drops ....

[split mortar]

Which would include addon lore I think

[visual kiln]

for example

gravastars

i just learned ab them from a kurzgesagt video

[split mortar]

Even if you’re sapient you aren’t completely immune to astral

[dusk laurel]

I need to start watching Kurzgesagt again

[visual kiln]

and immediately thought "hmmmmmmm what if the distortion were the inside of a gravastar"

[split mortar]

You can give yourself up

Or if there’s too much astral mana on you then it will tell secrets not even you know and so you get assimilated anyways

[pliant ruin]

Interesting

[split mortar]

Uh

Watched that same vid

Pretty cool

[pliant ruin]

Honestly like this approach much more

It makes astral seem like more of a threat

[split mortar]

Yeah

[pliant ruin]

And i dig the psychological approach to it

[mighty zenith]

[visual kiln]

what if astral were worshipped as a jesus figure by ppl who worship stars

[split mortar]

Then uh

They prob get infected

[visual kiln]

true

:3

[dusk laurel]

Serves them right

[split mortar]

I may be being dumb

What’s the psychological aspect

[visual kiln]

anyway distortion being inside a gravastar goes hard imo

plumg

[pliant ruin]

I mean, the fact that rather than it bruteforcing its infection in

It tells you of things and secrets that slowly convince you to give up yourself for it

That's pretty psychological

[split mortar]

True

Also makes it seem much more eldritch

[untold oracle]

Can I eat astral

[pliant ruin]

I feel like this could be explored further with the eventual astral rework

[split mortar]

Yes
There will be astral fruits

[untold oracle]

Yay

[pliant ruin]

Having a general motif of "enlightement" or something like that with the enemies and such

Kinda like the moon from dont starve...

[split mortar]

What’s with fallen soace objects that aren’t in one piece having enlightenment themes

[dusk laurel]

The dinosaurs were enlightened in a sense

[split mortar]

Yeah they were given permanent astral projection

also known as fucking dying

-# Also sadly lore chat will be moderated more

[mighty zenith]

that arent in WHAT

[split mortar]

Don’t bring Rebecca back shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[dusk laurel]

Good

I have no idea what to think of this

[spare pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1028474300153471046/1141242069164232726/woah_there.gif

[pliant ruin]

evil moderators will TAKE AWAY our GLUP rights

[mighty zenith]

[dusk laurel]

But you're evil too,,

[split mortar]

Tbf I don’t think much will change

Just when it’s being cringe it will be purged is prob the biggest changes

[mighty zenith]

union of soviet lore discussions arc

[split mortar]

[spare pier]

I mean, I did say that the reason why the Infection can infect sapient beings is more tied to quantity. It's how the debuff works

[mighty zenith]

literally all that changes is no more image spam

[spare pier]

Just standing in the AI? Yeah nothing is gonna happen

Take a concentrated shot of the thing? It hurts a lot and fucks you up

[eager bluff]

hi cardboard cutout of zoro

[dusk laurel]

Finally

[spare pier]

And then eventually, if you got blasted with enough AI

You'd be assimilated, even if you're sapient

[cloud ibex]

can confirm

i have the mandate of heaven to hit people's ankles with scooters if they start shitposting

[spare pier]

Granted, you also don't know how exactly the Astral Infection works properly

[split mortar]

Fucked up and evil

No more Kana

[spare pier]

More AI could just mean

More voices in your head

[pliant ruin]

I like to think that if you leave enough astral infection on you, even if a small amount, it'll eventually get to your head, and after that perhaps the victim will intentionally seek out to be infected further
Basically like... you get these little whispers on your head, and you desperately want to understand what they mean, or how to get rid of them, so you infect yourself further in hopes of doing that, and further, and further... and before you notice you're assimilated

[split mortar]

I imagine sapient beings don’t have the urge to re infect after a small bit of exposure that’s undone

Since we can eat fruit from there and not be nuked

[visual kiln]

what does the moon in dont starve look like

[pliant ruin]

dont starve moon is an elder god that creates undead and "enlightens" the living

its cool...

[split mortar]

Piece of it fell off into the ocean

It has the reverse of sanity where the sanity bar is turned into the enlightenment bar

The more it builds up the more dangerous the place becomes just like how in normal places the low sanity makes things more dangerous

[spare pier]

#1 rule of worldbuilding

Make a cosmic object fucked up

[pliant ruin]

so true

[visual kiln]

what if cosmic object was benevolent

[spare pier]

It's still fucked up

[visual kiln]

but also didn't know how to help so it just makes things worse

[spare pier]

The moon is fucking alive

[visual kiln]

wtf

why cant the moon be alive if it wants

racism

[spare pier]

Damn...............

[visual kiln]

😔

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Can’t tell if it’s don’t starve or calamity

And idk what to think about the fact both are plausible

[dusk laurel]

If the world had a soul why not other terrestrial bodies

Moon soul

[split mortar]

Exactly

[split mortar]

-# fovos

[wheat walrus]

this sounds so funny out of context

like imagine being blasted with AI

and you become AI generated

[split mortar]

I uh

Lost the context and got confused

[wheat walrus]

noo my hands

[split mortar]

Oh no you dropped you jpeg compression, guess you’ll be 4 pixels forever

[spare pier]

The World Soul is such a funny little thing

[split mortar]

Such a funny even vanilla has something like it

[wheat walrus]

me tweaking after eating the world soul

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-sponge-bob-ai-ai-generated-gif-3579838683933405386

[split mortar]

Wtf

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/modelscope-text2video-text-2-video-minecraft-ai-gif-17402780690646652525

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

omni you're getting tossed into the cog grinder first

[wheat walrus]

no

[cloud ibex]

yes

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-images-gif-17709842334239461541

[cloud ibex]

stop

[warm gull]

you know what they say

sometimes you just gotta kill people

[split mortar]

What’s the lore behind why skeletons can see us?

[strange stump]

sup bitches

[warm gull]

https://tenor.com/view/local58-moon-we-will-look-together-if-you-are-afraid-weather-service-gif-6852142750684634738

[strange stump]

your favourite God Emperor is here

did you miss me?

[indigo glade]

No.

[strange stump]

heresy

of course you did!

stop lying

[warm gull]

is this a warhammer fourty thousand reference

[calm patio]

thats why yo shoes are raggedy. fake ass jordans

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/goron-zelda-the-voices-dance-toniodiggy-gif-12460776436416279415

[split mortar]

For every astral a new voice appears

[hybrid barn]

There's something I'm admittedly curious about! Because not all summoning items or conditions for bosses are canon (the one in mind for this question, specifically, is Calamitas), how many of them canonically just ambush you out of the blue?

[mighty zenith]

a majority of them

[split mortar]

Yeah most ambush you

Eoc

Folly?

Yharon

Dog

Guardians

Providence

Scal

Mechs

Plants?

[hoary cape]

Is eater of worlds summoned by you breaking the orbs in lore? (The worm food could make sense as something it likes eating that attracts it)

[hybrid barn]

Probably the Sentinels, minus Signus in the future

[split mortar]

And ceaseless

[mighty zenith]

it could be? shadow orbs and crimson hearts are weird

[split mortar]

Stromweacer prob jumps us though

[mighty zenith]

weaver is meant to be an apex predator so yeah im pretty sure it attacks us first

[hoary cape]

Bloody spine for summoning brain makes less sense than worm food for eow

[split mortar]

Shrimple

Bloody spine is concentrated crimson and so acts like 3 crimson hearts when destroyed

[dusk laurel]

Don't we jump Ceaseless first

[split mortar]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying

Ceaseless doesn’t jump us

[dusk laurel]

Ah okay

[hybrid barn]

But yeah, since the crimson was born from vicious and war-hungry gods, maybe it's attracted to the scent of blood

[hoary cape]

But isn't the entire place bloody lol

[mighty zenith]

i feel like it'd smell you first

also its a BRAIN
how does it SMELL

[hybrid barn]

Ehhh, fair

[split mortar]

It has a eye in its heart

Simple

[hybrid barn]

I mean, it's not exactly a normal brain, it's got a mouth and stuff

[hoary cape]

The creepers smell for it

[split mortar]

Inside the brain there’s a heart with an eye inside that has an ear inside that has a nose inside

[mighty zenith]

maybe

[hoary cape]

The creepers act as it's nose

[mighty zenith]

hell the brain could just be like a fuckin
armor for it

[hoary cape]

Secretly the brain of Cthulhu is actually the nose of Cthulhu

[mighty zenith]

i like to imagine the actual brain is a tiny little thing inside it and the actual cerebrum is just a shell

[split mortar]

I feel like some of h the us may be quotes channel worthy

[dusk laurel]

I've heard of a theory that the shadow orbs are EoW's eggs

[split mortar]

Isn’t that a vanilla theory

[hybrid barn]

'Some of h the us"

Honestly, agreed

[mighty zenith]

EoW hatching an egg and a fucking

musket pops out

[dusk laurel]

Yep

[split mortar]

Fucking typos

[hoary cape]

Maybe crimson hearts are like actually the brains heart and it's mad you broke three of them

[dusk laurel]

They hide great treasure

[hoary cape]

Some of h the us is a legendary quote

[split mortar]

“I feel like some of this may be quotes channel worthy” is what I meant to say

[hybrid barn]

Also, honestly, it'd be kind of funny if it had a phase 3 where the brain broke away, and what was left was a little clump of tissue and organs called "Cthulhu"

[split mortar]

No y’all shall not know the quote channel

It’s super secret :)

[hoary cape]

I mean tons of video games have egg sacks dropping random loot. Diablo for instance can have gold inside them

[mighty zenith]

the real cthulhu looks like marvin the martian

[hybrid barn]

Oh god dammit-

[mighty zenith]

yeah it could be like

[hoary cape]

The real Cthulhu is the friends we made a long the way

[mighty zenith]

random shit EoW stole from people it killed

[split mortar]

sscls is all I’ll say

[mighty zenith]

and covered up like spiders do with silk

[hoary cape]

Me when I get 3 muskets in a row when I am not a ranger

[split mortar]

lol

Lmao

[thick slate]

you should always be ranger

wrong answer

[mighty zenith]

actually looking at the stuff you get from the orbs

[split mortar]

Always play multi class

[mighty zenith]

its stuff that adventurers could have used to try and kill eow

[hoary cape]

But rogue

[mighty zenith]

only to die horribly cause of main character syndrome

[hoary cape]

They didn't have plot armor

[mighty zenith]

eater eats them and coughs up the weapons (not tasty)

[split mortar]

So shadow orbs are rarer of worlds shit

[mighty zenith]

you know

i didnt wanna go there

[hoary cape]

Eggs

[mighty zenith]

but yeah

[hoary cape]

Not poop

It just likes giving its children toys

[split mortar]

Damn gotta love the gun that evolves into rotten worm

[hoary cape]

When they hatch

[mighty zenith]

not digested stuff he had to get rid of somehow

[hoary cape]

It's a toy for when they are born

Maybe eater of souls are baby eater of worlds

[mighty zenith]

eaters of souls with guns

terrifying

[split mortar]

Gotta love giving guns to children
Child support must be brutal in the corruption then

[hoary cape]

We share the same brain cell apparently

Both thought eater of souls are baby eow

[mighty zenith]

they could be like termites/ants

where they lose the ability to fly upon growing/mating

[hoary cape]

Yes

What does that make hive mind though in relation

[mighty zenith]

so it goes eater of souls > either devourer or corruptor depending on if it mated > world feeder > eater

[split mortar]

If we follow vanilla terraria

Eater of souls goes to corruptor

Devourer to world feeder to eater of worlds

[mighty zenith]

corruptors could be like old eaters of souls

they share the spit ability with eater

[hoary cape]

I mean eater of worlds could just be the "queen" which is why it's so much bigger than the rest

[mighty zenith]

i love coming up with bullshit based on things that were definitely not thought through by the devs

[hoary cape]

And souls/devours are based on gender

[split mortar]

Yet world feeders us so much more dangerous

[mighty zenith]

yeah this could be it too

[hoary cape]

Yah well in game vs lore

Don't ruin our perfectly reasonable theory with a minor plot hole

[split mortar]

Nah eater of worlds isn’t meant to be battle ready unlike world feeders so while visually more impressive it’s unlikely to win in a fight

[mighty zenith]

well technically eater of worlds has much more health

[hoary cape]

I mean when do you see ant queens fighting

They wouldn't stand a chance if they got attacked

[mighty zenith]

maybe eater is just too fat and slow

[split mortar]

Yeah, it has survivability to not die

[mighty zenith]

to be as much of a threat as world feeders

[hoary cape]

Termite queens are fat and slow

They ain't doing anything to fight if an enemy got in past the guards

World feeders are just adult devourers clearly

[split mortar]

Well yeah in nature it’s easier to play summoner then melee

[hoary cape]

They are clearly the big beef ants you see when it's time to battle

[mighty zenith]

devourers could be like ant majors while world feeders are supermajors

cannon fodder and more powerful cannon fodder

[hoary cape]

The question is what is hive mind in all of this

Because it's got to be connected somehow

[split mortar]

It isn’t I’m pretty sure

[mighty zenith]

my crack theory is that the hive mind is a literal hive

which grows eaters and devourers inside it

(which is why its able to spawn them on a whim)

(they are literally growing inside it as it fights)

[split mortar]

What’s the lore significance of this

[mighty zenith]

goober name

extremely goober name

[hoary cape]

Hive mind is the hive mind

What's the strongest corruption entity

[split mortar]

Hive mind

[mighty zenith]

pretty sure its hive mind, based on stats alone

[split mortar]

Eater of worlds then hive mind

[hoary cape]

Hive mind controls the entire corruption clearly

[split mortar]

It’s the densest parts of the corruption so I wouldn’t be surprised it can to an extent

[hoary cape]

Who knew releasing more godly essence would immediately make the corruption stronger

[hybrid barn]

Personally, I feel like devourers and their variants are produced by the hive mind, while eaters are produced by dominant devourers like EoW

It could kind of make sense, an EoW just growing to a point where segments of their body occasionally split off on their own and become separate enemies

[split mortar]

Eater of worlds - female
World feeder - male

Totally the case

[warm gull]

one plinkus to rule them all

[hoary cape]

What

[heavy ermine]

I’m making a massive lore book, with cool art. So for the first 3 bosses, can we agree there power levels are somewhat the same, like king slime through eye of Cthulhu?

I feel like WHEN you fight them is a good indication of how strong they are

[hybrid barn]

Depends, would the evil 1 bosses be between them, here?

[heavy ermine]

No

Only desert scourge would be in there, the evil bosses are obviously stronger

[hybrid barn]

Then yeah, that sounds good!

[heavy ermine]

What about there actual power level, would it be fair to say king slime is house level

[spare pier]

Every Boss is infact exactly as strong as they are

[hybrid barn]

Sounds reasonable, even if just on account of it being so big

[spare pier]

I think there is like

[heavy ermine]

K

Just making sure some dumb ass said Yharim was house level…

[spare pier]

Literally one case in the entire Mod where the stats of an enemy do not directly reflect how strong they actually are

Which is Eidolon Wyrms

[heavy ermine]

Crabulon is like

When do you fight him

I fought it post evil bosses, I forgot when you normally fight it

[hybrid barn]

If there's even a speck of reliability to that, it'd be a result of that being based on super old lore

[spare pier]

They have a shit ton of stats but the fact is that this thing would probably get stomped by a bunch of stuff tiers earlier because it just doesn't have a decent kit of abilities

[heavy ermine]

How strong. Crab

Also here my lore book art lol

[split mortar]

Yes, if a boss is above one other in progression then they’re above the previous ones

[heavy ermine]

Yes so, when do we fight crab

[split mortar]

Before evil 1

[heavy ermine]

Is it post evil bosses or before

[split mortar]

But after eye

[heavy ermine]

Oh okay

So it would be like, big house level, that makes sense, considering the massive extendable claws and spore attacks

[split mortar]

Slime god can solo a small ish army if you want to know where slime god stands

[hybrid barn]

That makes the most sense, since I didn't think it'd win against Eater of Worlds

[heavy ermine]

Slime God is post skeletron…..

A “small army” is kind of cap depending on what army

[hybrid barn]

Like, maybe a goblin army

[split mortar]

The army is like probably

49 people with platinum gear no accessories or life crystals

[heavy ermine]

Against eater of worlds it’s cooked because that’s just a bad match up lol, against the brain??? Maybe..

Cause it doesn’t have a mind, it’s possessed half the brain attacks won’t work

[heavy ermine]

Yeah slime god is slaughtering all of them

It’s not even close

Not even like a small chance

[hybrid barn]

It'd probably be an issue of spores against creepers there, because I feel like Brain of Cthulhu would have a much harder time in phase 2

[heavy ermine]

Like king slime could arguably kill half that army

And if this is on infernal difficulty the ninja is assassinating all the guys too lol

[heavy ermine]

Yeah

If I had to scale slime god…

At least for right now

[split mortar]

Infernum I don’t think changes how bosses scale?

[heavy ermine]

It doesn’t, at all, I’m just saying either way every boss in the game is cooking this imaginary army

[split mortar]

True

(Expert revaengence is the canon difficulty if you didn’t know)

[heavy ermine]

But if I were to rank slime gods, it’s definitely post House, it would be like, maybe small town? That might be a reach, but eater of worlds and brain can def destroy a town, so maybe more

Skeletron isn’t far above the evil bosses

So slime god could probably destroy a big town

[split mortar]

Omni is the powerscaler here btw so ask them shit

[heavy ermine]

I can picture it wreaking havoc in a town

[heavy ermine]

Any “official” roles can barely write their own lore correctly. So just cause you say it’s one way, and the game tells me otherwise I might not believe them

[dusk laurel]

What

[cloud ibex]

i think it's been mentioned in here before that taking down slime god would require a small army of normal soldiers or something?

[cloud ibex]

i gotta agree with vanillin here

what

[split mortar]

What do you mean “official roles can barely write their own lore”

[heavy ermine]

A small army of soldiers is like

Pretty pathetic compared to a literal eldritch slime god

[cloud ibex]

i mean yeah SG isn't exactly eldritch

[heavy ermine]

We all agreed king slime could destroy a small house

If king slime can do that what can slime god do

[split mortar]

Slime god was potentially a femboy pre ascension

[cloud ibex]

they're just some mf who killed a hungry hungry dragon and turned into a slime

[heavy ermine]

Relatable

[split mortar]

Rebecca said this

[cloud ibex]

good for them, good for them

[heavy ermine]

Yes… but that’s not what my beliefs hinge off of, my power scaling is going off their ingame abilities and where they fit among the bosses

[split mortar]

Like gods are strong

But the actual eldritch shit is astral infection and distortion and fovos

[heavy ermine]

Slime god is the weakest god by far

[split mortar]

That we know of

[cloud ibex]

the weakest one we see yeah

[heavy ermine]

He’s a coward too, making his power level even harder to gauge

[split mortar]

There was hundreds to possibly thousands of gods

[heavy ermine]

But, I don’t think it’s a far fetch to say he’s town level considering when you fight him
And the bosses below him, his abilities, etc etc etc

[split mortar]

Deus is town level iirc

[heavy ermine]

Like if he sets off the 2 paladins, a small town is done for

[split mortar]

Though on the higher end

[warm gull]

slimeboy femgod

[heavy ermine]

Like imagine just chilling, and a massive fucking purple creature with tendrils eats your face off and destroys the entire block

[split mortar]

Which would put deus at like

4-5 megaton nuke level?

[heavy ermine]

That’s a long time ahead

Haven’t thought that far

Come back to me in like 3 days and I’ll have an answer

[frozen zodiac]

Deus doesn't actively fight anyone though right

[split mortar]

It’s one of the few things that can be scaled since it has a feat of throwing a meteor

[heavy ermine]

Wall of flesh is almost quite literally impossible to gauge considering his niche ass abilities

[frozen zodiac]

they just watch over the infection until the signal appears

[split mortar]

It throws the astral star

[heavy ermine]

Throwing a medium sized meteor makes you continent level, god damn

[split mortar]

?

[frozen zodiac]

i meant that it stays more passive compared to the other infections

[heavy ermine]

A decent fucking meteor

Hitting the ground, is actual death

For anything sentient

Like that’s pretty powerful

[split mortar]

Yharim without armour could tank it

[heavy ermine]

Chat let’s start talking about the one character I know nothing about

Yharim

[split mortar]

Omni scaled it to high town level iirc

[frozen zodiac]

oh i was right the astral doesnt spread to nearby blocks

[heavy ermine]

How strong is he

He’s the final boss of the game

We went from house level king slime

To

Yharim

What’s his “ranking”

[split mortar]

Above scal who is much stronger then storm weaver who causes a city level event

[heavy ermine]

If it’s universal I’m killing myslef

[split mortar]

Fuck no this ain’t old lore

He is just like

High city level

[heavy ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-skeleton-skeleton-anime-skull-emoji-mha-gif-12326229154208089385

[split mortar]

Also known as stronger then any nuke we have on earth

[heavy ermine]

That’s word

Worse*

[split mortar]

How

[frozen zodiac]

Draedon is a higher level than him right because his whole goal is a search for higher knowledge

[heavy ermine]

That. Was way worse than anything you could have said, CITY?!

CITY?!

DUDE DESTROYER COULD DESTROY A CITY, YHARIM?! WHAT

or maybe the final boss is just that weak

Idk

[split mortar]

The highest feat in the verse is scal vaporising a sea in a unknown amount of time

Which is like low country

There may be higher feats but they cant be scaled

[heavy ermine]

That is a feat alright, but guess where you can find more accurate power scaling? Firstly, where she fights you, the abilities she has, and her massive fucking health bar

I’m pretty sure that health bar is a shield though

[split mortar]

Yeah without using her magic she is straight up normal human level

[heavy ermine]

Like Calamitas destroyed Ilmeris when she was like, younger

She’s obviously grown stronger

Since then

[split mortar]

Eh
Could be skill
She is already above every being but yharim to her perspective why grow more

We know she grew in skill

And was already post yharon strong

[heavy ermine]

Pre-Ilmeris downfall, Calamitas is like, evil boss 1 level strong

[split mortar]

HA NO

[heavy ermine]

That might be a reach..

Okay I mean like, slime god, maybe

[split mortar]

She was above devourer of gods back then

[heavy ermine]

Bro what is this power scaling

How does child Calamitas scale over herself

[split mortar]

?

[heavy ermine]

Dog, is literally the scourge of the universe, he could destroy bbg at that time

[dusk laurel]

No?

[split mortar]

Dog has always been weaker then yharim

[heavy ermine]

I give up

All I know is I got the first few bosses power levels right

[split mortar]

Dog has a huge ego you just fell for the guy boasting himself up

[heavy ermine]

So that’s a start

[hoary cape]

Dog loves telling people they have skill issues when he is the one with the skill issue

[heavy ermine]

No, his size, and strength makes what he’s saying somewhat accurate

Saying he’s small town, is like saying he’s equivalent to eater of worlds

[split mortar]

He is above storm weaver and so it like middle of city level

[hoary cape]

No one said dog wasn't strong

But cal is stronger

[heavy ermine]

Like don’t fuck with DoG, this guy can spawn portals literally anywhere

[split mortar]

Yeah dog is busted

Just that city level starts at 6 megatons and goes up to like 100

[heavy ermine]

Yes but

younger Calamitas?

Pre-ilmeris downfall? That’s kind of a reach

[spare pier]

Probably

[dusk laurel]

His portals are unstable

[split mortar]

She was above every god

And shakidou the god of space is above dog

I think

[spare pier]

Calamitas has a different kind of power progression

[split mortar]

It’s more so skill iirc

Not raw power

[heavy ermine]

Calamitas has 1 feat from when she was younger, destroying Ilmeris, which obviously she has grown and gotten stronger since then

[spare pier]

Yeah, like I very much consider her general power level didn't change too much over the years

What did is her control over it

[heavy ermine]

Maybe not much

But at least somewhat

[spare pier]

She can do more intricate stuff and all

While when she was young she just

[heavy ermine]

Her powers hinge off pent up rage

[spare pier]

"Fuck you, fire blast"

[heavy ermine]

So her current power level when you fight her is totally bloated

Like the game paints pretty ugly pictures of how fucking mad she is

[split mortar]

Yeah that comes with aging but she was a absolute novice at magic so any skill would help drastically more

[spare pier]

Shakidou is still stronger than her when she was young I'd say

[heavy ermine]

Also chat

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Give lore

In this game, if you. Put them in the right spots

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I think their power lands between Yharon and Yharim, I don't really know where exactly. Like

They were the strongest God during the Deific Era besides Xeroc

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I mean

Stronger doesn’t mean most likely to win

Plus space is prob a confusing thing t deal with in a fight especially for a 13 year old

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Yharim’s power level also sounds blown out of proportion, does he actually have confirmed attacks able to destroy an entire nation

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But I think saying they were as strong as Yharim is a bit of a reach

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If there was a boss fight

I would believe more

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Considering draedons claims

It would be below exos above yharon

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But that’s not out yet

If it’s like a sword duel

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Wait fuck you have

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For the boss fight

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A REALLY good point

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Then yharim is strong and skilled

But continental is a stretch. That’s like calling the terrarian continental

This is hinging off the fact he doesn’t have op HAX

So I’m asking

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Who said Yharim was continental

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What hax he got

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I have already talked about this with others

Draedon of all people would know shakidou and their power so draedon would know the exos could beat shakidou

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Omni made a few calculations and I very much agree with his stuff

Which puts Yharim roughly at island iirc

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The exo mech’s are the epicenter of possible technology, the exo mechs could fuck over almost anybody

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Oh whar, swear he says yharim is high city

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It’s a 3 v 1 too

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Really? I mean, to be fair

That's how strong I think Yharim is

Because I very much do a basically 1:1 scale to One Piece

Kaido, which is nearly the peak of power in One Piece, is around there

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omni ended up taking the higher end of feat stuff so im not positive what yharims would be

scal is around country level i believe

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I thought he was like country level

Though tbf I know like nothing

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i mean technically

considering most countries are on like one island

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One Piece's scaling is fucked because Oda one day decided to make a character just split a continent in half

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Her country level feat is over time iirc

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Cause Calamitas in my opinion, is near planetary. Hax wise, she was able to pretty easily destroy a town in her younger days, her at full power plus the rage boost with her new magic abilities makes sense

Afk

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Yeah that would fuck it up

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god no absolutely not planetary

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Omni would like a word

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But, considering what I believe is what he actually intended because ||Bajrang Gun is literally the size of a fucking island and it's Luffy's strongest move||

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I said near, at least continental at the bare minimum

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She doesn't have a rage boost but you're still wrong

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scal at her absolute peak would be like continent level MAYBE

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If we assume Ilmeris was like, how it was described, an insane kingdom

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And also you say "pretty easily", yeah because no one in Ilmeris is capable of standing up to her

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If she destroyed this shit in her teens

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Not even noxus, xeroc and fovos at full power combined are planet level I think

Like

With power scaling
Minimum of city level means a 10km circle is garunteed death then you get chances to live

Not just oh the city is damaged

No all life is basically wiped out instantly in the city I think

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Not even her prime

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She just

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Idk

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Walked into Ilmeris and spent a few weeks burning it

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Jesus Christ I think the scaling Broke again

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Because no one was capable of stopping her

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Okay so

What is calamitas

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Human

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According to y’all

No Diddy

But like

Her strongest hax

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she's a human who is strangely good at magic

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Against an object is how strong

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max of large island i believe

not positive

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Okay hear me out, isn’t like eater of world’s capable of that?

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No????

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It’s a massive fucking corrupter wyrm

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She is like high city level since the illmeris thing was a over time project

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absolutely not

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That thing is destroying an island

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It’s just a big earthworm

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Not a large one

But it will

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Well if you let it carve that thing out for like, 4 months then maybe

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eow is a glorified pickaxe

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It doesn’t destroy the island sized part of a continent we play on

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I find it sus, how eater is liek similar to scal

idk, just me

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It just burrowing around

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What do you MEAN Eater of Worlds is similar to SCal

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The scaling is so broken, prehardmode bosses can be beaten by your average joe

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Hardmode bosses can destroy maybe a house

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Your character is

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It’s not even low town

It’s just a big corruption worm that yharim calls out for having rumours that make it seem bigger then it is

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And post moon lord can destroy an island