#lore-discussion
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who
ask tringle
i touch auric and i do a half life scientist scream
oh yeah i remember
the frost dragon ate auric souls and became a dragon god
triangle is crazy for that
Is shadowspec in general canon?
No, all of it is dedicated, which means it's not canon
Except for demonshade, that's getting moved to directly post-SCal after the rework
Demonshade might remain as a dedicated armor set tho, so who knows really
So is demonshade going to be made directly of ashes of annihilation and exoprisms?
Oh there already is exoprism armour
I had no clue
So all dedicated content is considered non canon?
Yah
it's gonna be a modular armor
iirc it's not coming any time soon though
Okay yall who the fuck is statis and why does he have a ninja belt
But seriously I’m so confused on who statis is
the last living worshipper of slime god, one of yharim's strongest enemies alongside his boyfriend braelor
Oh
Wait if slime god is as ancient and powerful as the lore seems to imply how is he only pre-hard mode
Like iirc doesn’t he pre-date the dragons themselves?
no
Yeah but I thought the lore said that he was unique in the fact that he was born a god, he didn’t become one
Sorry I get things confused, especially because I have my own mini-headcanon storyline that I use
I’ll tell yall sometime maybe idk
all gods absorbed an auric soul
nice
But she’s still alive
kind of
she cant move or anything but technically alive
first dryad yes
Dryads are made of plant matter. Combine that with the fact that she’s quite literally unkillable, couldn’t she theoretically reform?
What I’m saying is, I feel very blue balled
Then again in my storyline (and also this is my headcanon for calamity too), she’s not actually a god, she’s something far greater and more powerful
you technically do see her, planty mush is basically just parts of her
The word I use is Celestial
Basically a god, but a) much, MUCH stronger, and b) was born with the power, didn’t consume an auric soul
Idk sorry I’m proud of my story
I also have an actual theory that Draedon is trying to create an artificial god
yharim hints at the possibility
the issue is that theres no auric dragons left besides yharon
Like ever notice that his machines get more and more alive?
Hence the word artificial
not... really?
in fact i think they get less and less alive
the hallowed mechs are actual souls in robots fnaf style
aureus was just for collecting scrap and got infected while exploring the astral
PBG has had its life stripped away basically by becoming a cyborg weapon
Aureus was meant to find the source of the infection, also if it can be mind controlled, it does in fact have a mind right?
and exos have no free will
incorrect actually
I was thinking more on the lines of the plague itself
the astral can infect mindless beings
Oh what?
in fact sapient creatures like humans can resist it
Well damn
its more effective on plants and machines
Eh still, I like my theory of Draedon is trying to create an artificial God
In my story, actually, I kind of combine it with the vanilla lore of the mech bosses
The specific god that Draedon is trying to replicate is Cthulhu
He’s trying to recreate the eldritch horror itself
And admittedly, that was born out of pettiness that Cthulhu isnt in calamity at all
lol
i dont mind cthulhu being removed from cal lore because ultimately, calamity is a much more isolated story than vanilla terraria
And honestly, if we ever fight Draedon, I hope that it’s like a mechanical Moon Lord fight
it's a separate fantasy world so cthulhu not existing there is fair
I literally actually have it kind of thought out
meanwhile vanilla doesn't really care about its worldbuilding so it can just do whatever it feels like
and if that includes cthulhu so be it
It would take place inside of a living arena, the mech itself is codenamed Ouranos, and the arena is codenamed Gaea
Because we already have some Greek mythology names
For Draedon’s creations
Wait I just realized do you think the Greek Gods exist in calamity or is it just a coincidence
coincidence most likely
Yes btw I spend my spare time making calamity fanfics in my head, sue me
iirc draedon never actually calls the exos by their greek god names
so the terrarian gave them nicknames themselves
which you can explain any way you want really
Yeah, in fanfic, he just called it Exo-Prime
Where did Terrarian get the names from tho
but aren't the options you pick from before the fight (which have the greek names) given to you by draedon
True

besides when we name things we know he don't like it, for example our name for miracle matter
What does he call it?
idk but we made it first so he honors our name for it im pretty sure
Huh-?
Wait but
He refuses to talk to you until after you’ve made an exo weapon
Which means he’s made exo weapons
Which means he’s made miracle matter
good point
i forgot he does that
he made an unstable version
we stabilize it... somehow
Plot armor
right there on the official wiki
WAIT HOLY SHIT A KIRBY 64 REFERENCE?
tbf the name referencing kirby 64 makes sense
both miracle matters are hodgepodges of random bullshit
that is somehow stable enough to exist
Found the dialogue finally
That’s bullshit, the exo blade was pretty mid when i used it
lmaooo
Like it was consistent damage
But
Not good damage
Nice heals tho
Also is Luxor’s gift good
Ik wrong channel but im already here
fair
The use of "actuate" here seems nonsensical
im not gonna pretend to understand draedon so take that one up with him lol
or whoever writes his dialogue I guess
Someone ping fab
I’m sad that they’re gonna stop putting in as many references
I like the Ultrakill guns
Wait
Hold on
Does Minos Prime exist in the calamity universe?!?!?!
I find this comment from draedon on the mech trio so funny
like this is some of the verbal side eye I've ever read
i love how much he hates the name skeletron prime specifically
not the eye puns
not the extremely simple and probably insulting "destroyer"
Does Draedon know who Skeletron is?
Wait I just realized the lore thingies that bosses drop are Yharim’s words, right?
Yharim calls the mechs by those names too
This is literally the Terrarian and Yharim on the left and right, and Draedon in the middle
With naming the mechs
he actually doesnt
its just the titles of the whispers
which i dont think are his words
I like the idea of Yharim and the Terrarian going out of their way to piss off Draedon
By giving his creations funny nicknames
I find it interesting that both yharim and draedon seem to be pushing the terrarian towards becoming yharims equal and clashing
Is that the entirety of meet the medic as an emoji
Why do you have these
why not
Also hello fellow lesbian
oop-
What it’s in your bio
that was just so out of nowhere sorry lol
so real
idk
I think its like trying to stick to calamity lore since its more about the difficulty and fights
I think it implies that the calamitas clone is not a creation of Draedon’s. Infernum calls it the “Forgotten Shadow of Calamitas”
Which idk why but you know what the first thing that comes to mind when I hear that?
Makes me think that the shadow is like some kind of physical manifestation of Calamitas’s sins and guilt
Idk
I look deep into things
But
Calamitas has a lot on her shoulders
the bottom half is more relevant here
Kinda but I think mostly just cause it was started before the last rewrite
calamitas did influence the clone tho and seems to have been the one to make it a threat to us in the first place even if unintended
Idk I don’t like that one, simply because like
Why would Draedon want to recreate Calamitas
after she left yharim draedon was ordered to do so
that just sorta peaked his curiosity especially considering the first half of that shows that he was no longer yharims greatest asset with calamitas around, idk maybe he wanted to prove science was more powerful
As I said before, I basically have an entire fanfic based on terraria and calamity
So that means lots of theories
if you saw someone incinerate an entire sea all by themselves
wouldnt you want to be able to do that too
Fair
Also what is Calamitas
She’s not a god
tbh I sorta hope we never get answers to certain questions cause the theories are fun
But she’s obviously not a regular mortal
she actually is
first part of draedons comments on her show she has some ties to the brimstone elemental
she's a human
Bruh what
MY THEORIES
she just had... something happen when brimmy attacked her city
its not clear yet but brimmy and scal have some sort of connection
and scal gained some of brimmy's power
some
she is human and heck isn't even the best at magic acording to draedon but for whatever reason her brimstone is just hella powerful
Then how is brim not on par if not stronger than Calamitas
maybe training from the best warrior and mage of her time helped?
either brimmy was weakened during or after the fight
or scal just has much higher potential
plus years of war and experience fighting
Idk in my fanfic she’s a celestial, which as I said before is basically a god but much more powerful, and was born with that power
I like my fanfics it’s fun
when we fight her she's in her 20s
only action we know brimmy saw was buring a city to the ground
Isn’t she like 200
Prop to permafrost for teaching her about ice magic to get himself stuck inside her ice cube
She’s a pretty normal human if you disregard her magical capabilities
but then again everyone was super old for some reason in old lore
yeah she was but no longer
Don’t remember that
i kind of do
much of it is a blur to me
(also much of it wasnt very consistent with itself)
sadly most of the old lore is lost to time since it was on the old fandom page I think which was basically wiped
a lot of it is probably in old messages here
like
a majority of lore wasnt even in-game
you had to scrounge through documents and discord messages
yeah but it don't matter these days and im lazy so i aint reading that lol
Wait is this fkn true?
yeah
until moonlord killed and injured a shit load of auric dragons people didn't know how powerful auric souls were once consumed nor were the dragons in a weak enough state to even think of killing them
Is that how powerful Moon Lord with his legs is?!?!?!
then after that we all know what happened cause the dragons got massacred
pfffft
but yeah depending on how you look at it everything is moonlord fault
apparently so
the legs are the power source
Maybe that’s what Draedon could be trying to replicate
Moon Lord’s Legs
He’s trying to complete the Moon Lord
So he needs an infinite source of power
Hence exo prisms
To match the infinite power of Moon Lords Legs
Well obviously not entirely
almost everybody forgot about him
with him dead draedons next goal is now to mine the moon for new stuff
alien
Right?
theres no answer really
we dont know what the fuck he is but
he is an alien
So my theory of there being something above a god in calamity could potentially be true
yeah an alien of some kind
maybe
idk
i mean just this one random-ass alien was stronger than nearly every god to come after
gods in calamity arent defined by their strength necessarily
You gonna sit there and tell me that there aren’t others like him?
no
probably tbh considering the gods power comes from the souls of the dragons which combined still struggled to banish moonlord to the moon, not even fully kill him
there could be an entire civilization of moon lords
we just dont know
thats the fun part
Ceiling of Moon Lord
calamity never leaves the planet (with some tiny exceptions)
fr tho
so you can speculate all you want
That’s where the headcanons come in
Yeah like my celestials headcanon
its also why im glad they scaled everything down from "ultra omega multiversal destruction in one punch"
Dragonball type powers are kinda boring tbh
when everything can destroy the planet
Exactly
the stakes plummet
But can’t something destroy the planet still?
as far as we know, nobody is able to do that
Isn’t Xeroc’s powers of destruction considered planetary?
except maybe noxus
Xeroc I think (with much effort)
i mean does the whole plannet even matter given we can't see most of it anyways
xeroc isnt very destructive
what is the terrarian plannet even
xeroc is very powerful but not destructive
Box
it allows for more worldbuilding
Giant rectangle
separate stories outside of the heartlands (aka the continent where the game takes place)
yeah ik im just saying to the player it doesn't matter
so world ending stakes aren't much different to just destruction of a continent
its not like the destruction of the continent would be effortless
something capable of wiping out an entire continent should be feared
having like 20 creatures all able to destroy the planet just makes you wonder
"how the fuck is the planet still here"
fr tho
also the whole cuthulhu thing with moonlord made me read the vanilla lore and apparently it was joked that moonlord could be cuthulhu's borther named 'steve'
I wish I was joking
ngl calamity lore has some similarities here
Would explain his powers
just replace the dryads with the dragons and it fits
Steve
or heck just add the dragons since from what we know the dragons were aided by monks once of which would betray zamteros and become xeroc
Draedor after the Terrarian defeats the final mech boss: ”Just you wait, Terrarian! These were only my Inferior Fabrications!”
This thing ruined my childhood game (for context the 09 doesn’t mean I was born in 2009)
They butchered the best possible thing
I bet 30
im not betting money on that shitstain of a movie
Very solid point
I don’t even wanna pirate it
the way they handled it is just super disrespectful to the game and fanbase
Also how the fuck does Steve only have one ender pearl
It feels like a cringy Undertale AU
I think they made it slightly better after the critique
But yeah it’s largely irredeemable
”We need to minecraft”
I’m gonna throw my spare change at you
wait did that movie come out already
No
No it comes out in april
god help us
That’s too soon
also can I just comment on how mage ranger and melee have weapons that talk to you
?
as a summoner main I feel left out
Wdym they talk
Ay fellow summoner main too!!!!
Are you delusional
Twin sister?
murasama has comments it makes as you defeat bosses when reading the tooltip
In overhaul
That’s an overhaul thing, is it not?
I play Infernum, so I don’t plag overhaul
calamity overhaul mentioned. initiating self destruct protocol
Yes it is
Nice profile
ty
Dw, they’re bringing that murasama thing to base calamity
:]
no but I liked the fish gun best halibert or something like that
Where did you find that, I need Christmas cally
Halibut cannon
it was somewhere on twitter
I need V1 fanart that isn’t ultrathicc
i dont have a twitter account but it was posted in a server i'm in and i thought it was cute
hihi
That is a thing?
yeah and its a reference to a late youtuber so I loved that fact that in overhaul it like talked to you and you could get it early and let it progress with you
Oh hell no
Everyone is thirsty for V1
You know the thicc Omni man meme?
you gotta remember the devs made official body pillows for them saying 'we know our fans'
Sadly yes
There’s a V1 version of it
That’s cool tbh
They also recently released the ultraplushes
…
shutupppp
um
they made plushiesss
does she like. know.
Im gonna bleach my eyes
They’re all sold out
fucccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkk
overhaul is actually a rly scummy mod
Agreed
Yes
wait huh
oh-
And was like „hell nah fk this“
I basically constantly play Infernum lol so I couldn’t use overhaul if I wanted to
wait from where
SAME
From what?
i did 5 infernum runs
sameeee
-# wait have I even done a base calamity run-?
i think the overhaul murasama is like
weapon effects im guessing
nu the code also
I tried, not that cool tbh
Was better before the master changes, master death is pain
overhaul murasama is kind of an feral amalgamation (haha) of stolen shit
idrm the exact details but as a whole its a rly disliked mod in the community for that and a few other reasons
the bonus ones are still up available
OOOOOO
I want a V1 body pillow Ngl
wotg and infernum visuals
oh yah those
Or just a body pillow in general…
so real
I have it downloaded but have yet to get to its content
🚿
i love wotg
its so cool
i never played it but i watched gf play it and it was cool
There are things in this world that you’re not meant to see
twisted garden beloved
Now the voice of a deity permeates
i know the creator so im forced to like it
lucille is based
(ive never played it
ive never played it bc i never get past hardmode in calamity
Can you tell them I said hi
im waiting for noxus to get reworked before trying it now
now I wanna remove overhaul tho but at the same time i DONT WANNA BRICK MY SAVE
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
inner turmoil intensifies
What’s y’all’s favorite item in calamity
Mine is Howl’s Heart
My gf is a big Howl’s Moving Castle fan
Sorry I meant donor item
I was gonna say the repair unit pet but thats calamity vanities
idk I find those little guys cute
no calamity items will ever beat the best terraria item ever tho (vanilla madoka vanity outfit)
when i saw the travelling merchant selling it i got actually jumpscared bc i had no idea it existed
id say my favorite donor item would either be the yateveo bloom cause I like roses
its just pretty
i think its a bad weapon tho
its melee so i'd never find out either way
the price is another pretty flower donor item I like tho
and I have used that one and its pretty good
Auric dragon of life in my headcanonz
oh wait right
scarlet devil is a thing
that ones up there
not bc ive ever used it but because its a touhou refrence
thats enough for me to like it
Gods in calamity ultimately are just other beings, Xeroc could beat any character but noxus and fovos aren’t gods and can also hurt xeroc
And yharim being basically a normal human is stronger then every god but xeroc
aren't gods really just people who consumed the auric souls of dragons
so gods are really just manufactured power
Yeah
not a natural plane of existence
It was a quick way to get a lot of power
So it was popular when the option popped up
Tbf it could also include other reasons
i swear humans ruin everything
Like the dragon just being a dickhead (flame) and the soul could shits be a extra bonus
I mean yes moon lord did a number on them
Or it being consensual
but some were murdered in cold blood
either way humans just suck
More then just humans ascended
this is why I prefer the company of my dog most the time
she wont just eat my soul (I think)
@twilit heron btw there’s a doc with all lore in the pins if you want to give that a read
Ooooo
Hopefully
Funsies
ngl I want someone to like make it into a book, then print and bind it
calamity bible there
The literal calamity lore book
The dragons deliberately oppressed the humans and forced them to live underground except for a few they let live on the sky islands
They made the sun too harsh for most life
Their king, zeratros, did, I mean
Well not all dragons may have agreed with that
Yeah
even underground they managed to ruin and pollute the sulfurous seas
That’s azafure not dragons
No, the sulphur sea was always like that
Draedon specifically made it worse with nuclear stuff
?
It’s literally said azafure made it more acidic
read the codebreaker diolouge draedon says they messed it up before draedon touched it
draedon have nothing to do with sulph sea??
Draedon dumped uranium and active nukes in it
Slimes having actual nukes in them seem a bit bad
but its always above the crags in hell cause the city that resided there was the first to pollute the area
Seen with gunk zero in this
me tossing car batteries into the ocean (its ok guys im charging the eels
)
The sulphuric sea is not that bad even now. Lots of creatures do just fine there
It’s very fucked up but life likes to live and so can handle it
cause of a mix of silva's essance and life just being weird like that
Silva just be making anything stay alive
silva carrying sulph sea
no things worked before silva
And abyss
silva just makes it easier
And azafure
the abyss doesn't have any pollution in it actually, the acid sea debuff doesn't happen there
Silva increases the amount of life that can survive there by feeding planty mush, but the ability to adapt to unusual situations is not unique to things helped by Silva. Even in real life, things survive around hydrothermal vents
Which spew sulphur and other toxic chemicals and boiling water naturally
yeah thats why I said it was a mix, I know life is just wacky like that silly
good ol chemical soup
origin of life right there if you didn't know btw
Probably, yes
okay cmon you don't gotta be technical and say probably like lemme have a little fun here, I know we will never know for sure but dammit I wanna be able to use my stupid bio history class for something
primordial wyrm is stronger than John yharim right
who knows
maybe not
but yharim probably wouldnt win in a 1v1 anyways 
just beacuse jared is a bit too deep
I know...
it counted as a history class without having to study boring war and more reasons to not like humanity
humanity is already hateable enough we dont need histiry for it
Humanity is like at least half good, people just focus on all the bad a lot
i really dont care if humanity is bad
its either that or dying
i'd rather live being part of a fucked species
selfish ik, but lowkey
i dont want my life to be gone
mostly on history
where humanity did so much bad
because morality wasnt exactly advanced upon
not that modern humans are good, they just do more good
Even back then, humans had a lot of good, it's just less notable as far as I understand
ye but their good was pretty hard to overcome things such as genocide, slavery, unreasonable wars
etc
rn these are a lot a lot less common
idk, this question always was brought to me
if we were to find another sapient species
would their history be similar to ours?
or is this much bloodshed not normal
We have no idea, but we have reason to believe that it's a mix of everything, based on other intelligent species on earth
using earth as an example doesnt work
because we evolved alongside them
so we would share similar traits
a completely different planet
would lack it all
This is not necessarily true, because most animals this applies to evolved these things convergently
i mean dolphins will literally (triggger warning) ||gang r-pe|| female dolphins
wut do dolphins have to do with this
they evolved that due to the same situation, thats why i said it doesnt work on earth
all species usually deal with a similar global issues
so I think its a curse of intelligence
I mean there's no real way to tell how life on another planet would be like
its why its impossible to get an actual near accurate evolutionary history on anything that isnt earth
because we lowkey
dont know what could happen
No, these are different situations, and this is not true. The only same situations are "need food, avoid danger"
It is different enough that we can have reasonable certainty that the same underlying situations would occur at least sometimes
theres no real way to tell
atleast not until we theoretically actually find said life and manage to study it
Octopuses evolved eyes and brains completely independently from all vertebrates, and did so underwater, and they have similarities to human curiosity
yeah but octopi and vertebrates still share a common ancestor, they're still eukaryotes
they are similar, not same. you got to realize many species are limited to what they could do due to past evolutionary traits, literally the reason why all mammals only have 4 limbs, or have very similar ways of breathing
life on alien planets could legit be nothing like life on earth
and when i mean nothing like life on earth i mean like
this might not happen in a different planet
nothing like life on earth
who knows how many planets maybe once had life but don't anymore as well
I mena we were lucky to have ancestors that survived the great dying
All the relevant factors were evolved completely independently, they might as well be aliens. The factors you are describing would result in different systems, but even things that have a replacement for DNA would still convergently evolve behaviors similar to some earth animals
when stuff like that can happen it really is a miracle that we exist
Miracle
look its damn near 4 am I couldn't be bothered about spelling
Chimpanzees have full on wars, orangutans sit around and eat and have sex with each other all day. Dolphins do that bad thing. Dogs sometimes adopt lost young. There's good and bad everywhere
also crap its almost 4 am I should sleep
Anyways. One more thing
When extinction events happen, the stuff that survives did so because it was more resilient. Therefore, an event that kills off even 90% of all life is still less than halfway to killing off all life on earth, because that remaining 10% is massively more resilient
So it is actually not surprising that at least some life has survived
the things that were evolved from completely different situations are very vauge things, for all we know, predation might just not evolve in a planet, or it forms of a completely different molcule (all theories obviously), not sure how far autotrophs could go but that could be a thing too. many aspects could be different in a planet, and that one change would change many things
well its not necessarily because they're more resilient, there's more factors than that
adaptable is a better word imo
actually, i never fully grasped the definition of resilient, seen it be used in many different ways
so that could be wrong
there's also scientific basis for like
a good measure isn't a percentage of life that died but how much of the biodiversity died
species going extinct just because they unfortunatley got deal a bad hand
like there are groups of animals that by all means should be adaptable enough to survive just as well as some other organisms, but they got unlucky.
cambrian mass extinction is one of the best examples of this iirc
yah
This is possible, but I suspect it may be unlikely for things to go that much differently.
sometimes a mass extinction happens and u just end up being lucky enough to be on the area of the wrold thats least affected by it
we dont even know what the capacity of life is
whatre we yapping about
we dont know if earth is the least habitable or the most
life might be able to exist in planets much harsher
or even only exist in planets much more habitable
thats the issue
we dont know shit
its all just using earth as an example
which doesnt work when we have none
other than earth
to use as an argument to talk about alien civilizations
Idek anymore I’m just going to bed now cause it’s 4 in the morning
This isn’t even calamity lore
Jared is above scal and exos but weaker then yharim
you see we're talking about evolution of life on earth which coincidentally ties in with how fishrons evolved from dragons
We know more than you think based on where we do and don't find life on earth, because there has been enough time for life on earth to adapt to every environment possible. There could be different systems for life that don't use DNA or carbon, but no other atom is capable of as much unique chemistry as carbon
exactly
that doesnt answer anything
we dont know what life could come in because the first life used carbon
and evolution has a habit of keeping traits
thru billions of years
what says, this isnt one of them
it'd make sense too
cuz i imagine using a different molecule
is like
pretty hard....
That's not quite right. We know that carbon is the only atom capable of chemistry anything remotely like what life we know uses, so anything else would have to operate completely differently, and with much more limited survivable conditions
silicon based life will be real in 5 seconds
basically what im saying, this doesnt explain anything because to actually know this, we need to look at a pure life, one that didnt undergo heavy evolution
i understand
refer to this
anyways this is sort of going into a broader topic bcuz what do you even like
define as life
Evolution is the purest thing that life does
cuz like think abt it, if there were aliens that weren't made
you misunderstood
of dna/carbon
what i sayd
but clearly showed general signs of being alive
said*
would they be classified as like. living??
or would they. not be considered alive. bcuz they dont fit earths definition of life
the funny part is that there's no answer
for this
no matter how hard you think abt it its impossible to answer without actually going out there and seeing aliens
“Pure life” that you on about i think is prob just some basic ass single cell organism that doesn’t do much
or like an object either
Yes. The commonly accepted criteria involve use of energy for a metabolism of some kind, the ability to self replicate, and the ability to mutate
i meant as in, one that didnt need to change, a complete seed
didnt change*
not need
everything eventually would
to actually see how it reacts to enviroment
if we were to recreate it all
and make the enviroment harsher
would it still adapt?
or would it die
No one claims to set an official and definite criteria, but these are commonly accepted as the main factors like I said
obviously, when evolution heavily changed life to the point where it only can live on earth, no shit many ideas seem impossible. but what if said had more potential, it just didnt need it.
im very shitty at wording things
high intellect lore discussion
I think I get the general idea but I also think you misunderstand important details. There isn't really a single seed, per say. There would instead be a wide variety of different chemicals doing different things, and eventually some of those would combine in the right way to make a chain reaction of random RNA and other proteins forming, and eventually those would form all sorts of different random molecular machines, and eventually some of those machines would form cells. All of this happens via random chance. The exact way in which this happens could be different, but the general idea of "make something that self replicates and it will survive" is the same
And the conditions required for that to happen chemically are the same
hi deltaw
It is true that we don't know for sure
i saw ur ping yesterday but i was sleepytired barely awake so i didnt see the new doc
Hai cheas
But it is wrong that we have no clue
buwoah!
I’ve recently misinformed my friend of the story terraria calamity on the topic of primordial wyrm power!
Lived up to your name it seems
eat sleep game sleep sleep sleep eat sleep repeat
woahoaoaoahoaoh story of calamity
Why did you have to give me those flashbacks?
talking about eat i'm currently hungry

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You should hydrate
Watr
Garbo,
Eat sand and go shower
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i will shower sand eat shower
ill steal it
Garbo avoiding showering themselves I see
Smh
hungr
Uh
How economical is it
buy rat
rat are friend not food
Depends on if its road roller or not
i understand, called it seed to heavily simplify it, my point is evolution specializes things, speciailization is the reason why we cant use earth as an example... because they are specialized for earth, if all of these chemicals, were placed into a different planet. completely, we wouldnt know if they would actually form RNA and continue on, or not. we guess using earth as an example but it never is as reliable. thats my point
Good point, but we do know one thing: these chemicals only function in liquid water. We've never found any set of chemicals that can do the same things in any other environment as far as I know. Even silicon can't form stable bonds to other things as well
but as cheese mentioned, a different definition of life could be formed
we do not know how life works
A different definition of life requires a different chemical mechanism. We have done experiments for this and have not found any others.
There could be others, but they must be rare
Or very specific
this isnt concrete neither do we actually fully understand how it works
so experiments arent good or reliable
thats how it has always been with science anyway
especially when its billions of years
I don't see what you mean by a lack of understanding of how it works. We know the rules of chemistry, we see how life as we know it operates, and how the different molecules do different things. We do not know every detail, but we understand the underlying mechanisms
we dont know how life came to be
its all theories
unless that was discovered...
especially when you consider the fact
we are, as human beings
unable to recreate it
cloning is different obviously
as that uses an organic matter
all of our technology that can create life, uses organic matter
we dont know how inorganic matter became alive
thats the issue
we cannot recreate it
we can only theorize and guess
obviously im not saying these theories are like, really unreliable, they are very educated theories and i believe in them myself
i just dont like making them objective
That part is true
Well, we have gotten carbon and other trace elements in hot water and gotten them to form some of amino acids, we just haven't seen those combine to form RNA or something similar
So basically nano machines arent alive
I mean theyre machines
Auric doesn’t care and nukes em anyways
auric rejects anything that produces shadow 
Auric rejects anything with an intent to touch it, wether intentional or not.
Thats why golfballs get affected too, cuz flying towards auric at 100 kilometers per hour is an intent to touch it, wether the ball is sentient to mean it or not
if i picked up the golf ball after that would i get zapped
No i dont think so? Unless residual auric ore got on it
That makes me think how much auric is needed to send you flying
Keep in mind dragon fruit has dragon energy and if we were to eat a second we would get rejected
Okay that is a good explanation
I wonder how it looks like if your body rejects itself
Would you just violently explode?
Or just get a massive zap and die
implosion
Allergic reaction but auric
You think this is gonna stay the same when the dragonfruit gets turned into a fruit item obtained in the aerie?
I think honestly miracle fruit and elderberry could have a new ”why you can’t use this twice” text
It’s turning into mythical strawberry iirc
And when was it said it would be in aerie? That’s post exo and scal
Elderberry literally being a portable beach that makes you old is funny though
I remember a Dev saying that they wish to place the dragonfruit in the aerie
While blood orange and dragonfruit have direct reasons why they two just have vague ”you die lol”
That’s what it does already
Blood orange isn’t vague
Says blood orange and dragon fruit
Means they other two fruits
"You have already consumed a Miracle Fruit. It would take a miracle to put you back together if you ate another."
it just implies that you would blow up
Pfft oh wait yeah
Elderberry is fine enough if you turn super old but miracle fruit literally is just ”it would take a miracle to put you back together” (get it???)
I just thought you would fall apart like a Lego guy dying
A big tree just grow out of your body
Miracle fruit lets you harness the raw power of a c4 planted to your chest (+25 maxhp)
I wish we had lore on what exactly the fruits do
Would be cool if it said like ”the growth would consume you if you ate another”
So instead it gives you turbo cancer got it
Oh shit really?
I might include this in my story…
Yharim eats one and nothing happens (he is in his prime)


and it’s not even his final form
will yharim drop any materials when we kill him
Yharim stone
He de ages into his biological prime 
no sorry, Yharim crystals
and how will refighting him work is it just gonna be like "Illusory Yharim" like the zelda dlc
Something that lets us craft shadowspec I think
it will be the same as any other boss i guess
Refights aren’t canon
Yeah they are
her dialouge seems to imply so
Her dialogue is outdated
and i guess you could make a case for monsters which we know there are many of
Dragon folly and queen bee are also canon
Dragon folly is canon?
i thought like we fought the strongest one
and thus we cant really rematch the strongest folly
To my knowledge
Average adult
Which is why folly being post ml is wack
unless you mean to tell me that we have several post-moonlord threats just looming in the jungle
Yeah
are eidolon wyrms post ML strength?
they are intented to be fought after him though
Yeah
but an abyss dragon being stronger than moonlord is alright
its already known you must be really strong to live there
The abyss dragon is equal to average auric dragon
and they are localized in the abyss,
yeah
but Dragonfolly is kinda crazy
thats why i just assumed the one we fight is a mutant, or a genetic wonder of a dragonfolly
iirc a wyrm was said to be like
Plantera level a while ago but it may be wrong
the rest are weaker, but the one we fight is the strongest
what a dev said that?
IIRC yeah
Previous messages says it’s Rebecca so they may be who said it
Though stip said they disagreed with that when I was looking so maybe it’s undecided
well, its explicitly stated in the Bestiary so it has to be canon for now
that they are auric dragon tier
^
This maybe?
Oh you were asking about the wyrm = auric dragon thing
wait a minute you said the abyss dragon
i thought you meant wyrms
like i thought abyss dragon was just a fancy term for an eidolon wyrm
is the abyss dragon something else?
No
What I thought you was asking for was wyrm being equal to plant
oh no yeah that was what i was asking for
I’m so lost
How can we help
i said that in response to this
Ah
What dragons are you talking about
its canon that eidolon wyrms are equal, so it cant be undecided
that was what i meant
Plantera’s about as strong as the average auric dragon that’s crazy
Cryogen is stronger than some auric dragons
and that is just a construct Scal threw together lmao
Actually may be plague bringer level?
Abyss breath?
I mean you can go and see How strong Eidolon Wyrms are
I was just guessing at what tier they are reasonably killable
Oh neat
That sorts out my problem with it then
The children def aren’t
well i guess it still depends on the average strength of Follies
what if like a good chunk of them are only a bit weaker than ML
that would still be crazy
How can it be that a draconic offshoot is tiered higher than the being that led to the downfall of the real auric dragons 
To be fair there has floated around a possibility of Dragonfolly becoming an event but idk if that's happening
I mean in the end the dragons won though
I hope this gets canonized/explained more clearly ingame
to be fair that just shows how much ml was weakened
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Bumble bird v2
i twould be so cool
murder of follies
It is official, cheese got a stroke 
A Bumble of dragonfollies
make the current folly the boss of the event,,,, it would be so cool
The problem with that is what the fuck there would even be in the event because there being a bunch of weird extra Follies just doesn't work imo
The prey of dragonfollies,,, giant BUGS
they have awoken
so the follies go on a feeding frenzy
ml is dead and now follies are no longer scared of it
You could call it the tropical murder event (get it bc... murder.... murder = killing, like the folly preys being killed, but also murder = swarm of crows and dragonfollies r very birdlike)
Tbh it would make sense if there were like three follies you fight at once
10 million chicken assault
cognitive enough to be scared of him anyways
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
genuinely a folly event would be so peak 🥹
Bumblebirb
feeding frenzy,,,
The armies of folly
like...the game?
that the event would happen bc folly's prey items (a bunch of giant bugs and such) have awoken/are migrating/whatever and thus they're going on a feeding frenzy
exotic pheromones as a summon tool would make even more sense
ur using the pheromones to attract the giant bug creatures
which in turn attracts the follies
:plumgu:
I could see that
could be cool
Peam
At the end of the day even if it isn't an event I'd like for Folly itself to have a fight where it's instead throwing a bunch of other, smaller Follys at you
Beam
desert scourge post ml version
So the fight isn't against Dragonfolly, it's against a whole ass pack of them

that would be based
⚠️ You have alerted the horde!
Here they come...
Monster Hunter Wilds becomes real
god this genuinely has made me so happy even if its not guaranteed to happen dragonfolly event is smth me and azzy have been talking about for ages vbma,bvmn,asbvsa
just the possibility :>>>
Then you would be in the thick of it
cheese thoughts on bumbledoge
bumbledoge is very evil and amlicious
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