#lore-discussion

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spring helm
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I’m surprised

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Isn’t she asexual

cobalt sand
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Homework folder*

split mortar
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Yuri isn’t sexual just romance isn’t it

spring helm
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Oh

hot valve
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Yuri is just love between two girls yes

spring helm
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I’m so far gone

split mortar
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You thought cheese would go on about yuri in a public server where nsfw stuff is banned?

visual kiln
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killing ur families

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fr

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:((((((

dusk laurel
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Why

split mortar
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Just realised I have been calling them cheesehdflr

dusk laurel
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Yeah

visual kiln
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ur all full of sin

split mortar
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And not weird or whatever

visual kiln
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none of u r going to heaven

dusk laurel
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I was gonna comment on that

split mortar
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According to seeker

hot valve
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Yeah it’s hard to judge what the god of space could actually do without like

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Being told

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lol

dusk laurel
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I love geometry

split mortar
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Less drastic versions of gojos infinity o imagine is a possibility

hot valve
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In theory this god should have wiped the actual floor with yharim

cobalt sand
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Pulling space like fabric

split mortar
visual kiln
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alamity od

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ore

pliant ruin
visual kiln
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wtf

split mortar
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What

spring helm
split mortar
visual kiln
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ya ik

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eats u

pliant ruin
split mortar
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Ok

hot valve
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Wait
You are cheese??

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Wait what should I be calling you

cobalt sand
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I
Am steve

split mortar
spring helm
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🧀girlonline

hot valve
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Ah cool

sand ocean
hot valve
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Give me a way to refer to you and I’ll do as such

spring helm
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What the hell

cobalt sand
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Not the leaning tower of pizza

split mortar
spring helm
hot valve
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But it’s very likely god of space cannot just create portals at whim (hence the bestiary entry of Signus)

spring helm
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No longer canon

cobalt sand
hot valve
split mortar
hot valve
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2nd strongest god feels about DoG level

visual kiln
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wtf

hot valve
visual kiln
split mortar
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Long as it’s below scal then it’s fine and fits

hot valve
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Actually portals to and from the distortion are probably WAYY harder to create than just portals 15 meters apart

visual kiln
hot valve
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I wonder if there’s something stopping you from just creating a portal around someone and then closing it, splitting them in half

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Like I have no idea

cosmic zenith
hot valve
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Cause if not that’s absurdly strong lmao

visual kiln
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nuh uh

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thats u

cosmic zenith
tall delta
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god of portals

split mortar
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Draedons exo mechs rival scal and he has had damn good evidence on all the strongest gods to have existed due to being in the crusade for ages, and he claims his mechs are stronger then all gods which would include space god

visual kiln
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wtf french woman boy thing

hot valve
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Hello stip

visual kiln
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idk help

hot valve
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Do you wish to answer my questions about portals

split mortar
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Azzy, explain your crimes

dusk laurel
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Azzy held SoK at gunpoint, they are a threat

split mortar
split mortar
visual kiln
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who is azzy

spring helm
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Did Yharim ever actually try to act like a hero?
I know he was genocidal from the start but did he put any effort into making like a heroic facade over it?

split mortar
visual kiln
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wtf

cobalt sand
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impossible

split mortar
visual kiln
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iirc

dusk laurel
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So maybe that counts

visual kiln
cosmic zenith
split mortar
split mortar
dusk laurel
split mortar
visual kiln
hot valve
cosmic zenith
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Yharim doesn't put any effort into making a heroic facade because he excels at it so much it's almost natural

cosmic zenith
visual kiln
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y not the latter

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im talking irl

cosmic zenith
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Oh, irl

split mortar
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Irl not lore

cosmic zenith
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It's a bit of both

hot valve
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Stip if DoG closed a portal he created while you were halfway in it, what would happen

tall delta
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yharim in real life!?

cobalt sand
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Supreme fourth wall breaking charisma

visual kiln
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feel like its more the latter tbh

cosmic zenith
visual kiln
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bc empirically ppl r convinced by things they hear no contradicting voices against

tall delta
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yeah i dont think Its because he is convincing and all that, but because he is just the only and most noticeable source in there

cosmic zenith
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I'm pretty sure that even with other perspectives, Yharim will remain very convincing

visual kiln
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probably

tall delta
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maybee

cosmic zenith
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I have the context, after all

visual kiln
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plumg

spring helm
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i wrote this which is supposed to be Yharim back in the early days of the Crusade before he was like "I dont care about any of my men"
what do you guys think?

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tall delta
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yharim and his evil and messed up acting

hot valve
paper zenith
spring helm
cosmic zenith
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Not that I know of

spring helm
dusk laurel
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He admitted

split mortar
cobalt sand
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I worked with Yharim he's a fraud

paper zenith
split mortar
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I worked with Damaskino they’re a compulsive liar

dusk laurel
split mortar
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Anyways it’s 3 am bye

cobalt sand
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I am the

split mortar
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No

paper zenith
dusk laurel
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Bai melon

spring helm
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i think a failed at writing a naturally charismatic Yharim

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he's kind of just a grumpy old man in my fics

paper zenith
spring helm
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don't look at me like that

spare pier
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Ultimately Yharim is going to be the most easily accessible piece of information for the Mod's whole lifespan besides the Bestiary, even when we have a different method for Lore Items

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And I mean, his point is, ultimately

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Gods have committed genocide against the Dragons

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Even if he was bad

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The Gods are worse

eager bluff
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his point is objectively correct in that they genocided the dragons

spare pier
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The point is not that Yharim is a good guy

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It's that he markets himself as better than the Gods

latent bolt
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were there also dragons that were horrible too

eager bluff
sinful adder
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This part is true

dusk laurel
spare pier
dusk laurel
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Before it got put down

spare pier
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After all, Providence is right there

sinful adder
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But we also kind of know nothing about any dragons except two, and the two we know about are pretty terrible

eager bluff
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the reasoning of his argument is also sound if you only look at it from his viewpoint

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as soon as you start to look at other viewpoints it gets quite a bit shakier

sinful adder
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Any argument can be sound if you ignore enough facts

spare pier
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Basically, Yharim imo still has a lot of credibility

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However, I think he could have more

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Which is why I want to write like, 3 retellings of fights he had HDfailure

sinful adder
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I don't think he should, he doesn't need more

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More credibility I mean

eager bluff
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hes a very credible source
he just also has a 2:1 ratio of bias to credibility

scenic olive
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Can you kill Yharim by putting him in the lava again

latent bolt
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if the cavern bio center lab gets a draedon log, what would be discussed with it

spare pier
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Cool, you know why he believes in his cause

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Why do other people believe in his cause?

sinful adder
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I think the dragons and gods were mostly the same. They both took a limited source of unmatched power for themselves, at the cost of everyone else in the world. A handful of them were benevolent, and at least as many were evil.

latent bolt
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that is an interesting take

eager bluff
spare pier
sinful adder
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The world soul and it's pieces, as far as we know, could have been just as alive as the dragons

eager bluff
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obfuscation misinformation and disinformation are still tactics used to control knowledge

sinful adder
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And power in the hands of someone that never dies will inevitably prevent the world from changing for the better. The dragons were immortal, can you imagine if human leaders never died of old age?

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The world would be trapped in a significantly worse position forever, unless those leaders were killed

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Arguably, it would be wrong not to kill the dragons, and the gods, unless they were perfectly good and uncorruptible, because of those reasons

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Additionally, hunting down the dragons is not exactly genocide? There are still living dragons, they're just not auric dragons. It's like saying that hunting down billionaires would be genocide. It's still mass murder, but that's not really the same thing

spare pier
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Guess who was also hunted down? HDfailure

dusk laurel
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OD would like a word

spare pier
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And killing Auric Dragons is more like going out to slaughter the entirety of Europe

sinful adder
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I see

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How many were there anyways?

spare pier
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Auric Dragons weren't a minority, that much I can say

sinful adder
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I would expect that to be impossible because there would be limited auric souls and all living things, presumably including dragons, want to keep having offspring

spare pier
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That's assuming Auric Dragons reproduce quickly enough. Remember, Old Duke and Primordial Wyrm were some of the first Offshoots to be born and they are, like

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I'd say 3 thousand years old...?

sinful adder
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Ah, right

spare pier
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Or 2 thousand

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I can't exactly say if they'd be younger than Azafure or not

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If they do predate Azafure, it'd be for quite a bit

sinful adder
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But anyways, a world without aging in real life would, I think, justify doing something like killing the entirety of Europe, because no one can be trusted to live forever. Aging is the last resort against anyone keeping their power forever, and no one is right to take a unique power for themselves. The only way for anyone to weild such power fairly is to share it or pass it down to their successors

spare pier
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I have an approximate age for like, when the first Dragon claimed an Auric Soul

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But I won't say it just yet

sinful adder
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Interesting

dusk laurel
spare pier
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I'm saying that's probably being

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The oldest event you'll get a date for

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I think there is one event you'll get to know that will be EASILY the oldest thing to ever happen in the chronology of the story but we are not putting a date on that

dusk laurel
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That makes sense

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Old events tend to not be able to have full record on them

eager bluff
spare pier
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But I think the best way I can put that is

sinful adder
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Life might be the only definitively good dragon. If our inferred understanding of their history is correct, they took their power from the world soul and used it for ???, then gave it up to the nature elemental, they were opposed by the current powerful groups multiple times, and the characters we know as fitting the archetypes of the ultimate good in the world are aligned with her

spare pier
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It's the difference between the extinction of the dinosaurs and homo sapiens existence

sinful adder
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Wow

spare pier
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It's been something that happened an ungodly amount of time ago

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Long enough that slapping a number in it would be meaningless

sinful adder
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Sounds like roughly 100 thousand years to 1 million years

dusk laurel
sinful adder
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In relative time

spare pier
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100k to 1 million is a 10 times difference

dusk laurel
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Didn't homo sapiens appear around 2 million years ago

spare pier
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300k years more or less

sinful adder
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Huh?

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Hold on

spare pier
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On another note recently I had a really fucking funny idea recently

eager bluff
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yeah homo sapiens is as far as we're aware about 300k years old

sinful adder
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Homo sapiens have existed for roughly 300k years, and the dinosaurs went extinct roughly 50 million years ago

spare pier
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Do any of you know of Mugetsu?

sinful adder
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The oldest known time in calamity's history is 2k years, so scaling these things relatively, it sounds like it would be 500k years (100x less for both)

eager bluff
sinful adder
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I don't

spare pier
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Aka

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You use a fucking ungodly powerful attack

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But the weapon becomes completely useless afterwards

cobalt sand
spare pier
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Yeah

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That one

cobalt sand
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Oh

spare pier
eager bluff
spare pier
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That's just the Elephant Killer, Hydra and Bazooka again hdflr

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And they were removed for a reason

eager bluff
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erm

sinful adder
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We have that one that gives you the skeleton arms

eager bluff
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ackshually

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hydra is still in the mod

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🤓

sinful adder
spare pier
eager bluff
sinful adder
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But yeah this is different

dusk laurel
spare pier
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We've talked about reworking a bunch of Enchantments recently or at least tweaking most of them because

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They're kinda scuffed rn

eager bluff
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tainted is so bad its not even funny iirc its like horrifically bugged

spare pier
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Damn

eager bluff
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last i remember seeing it it was anyways

spare pier
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I was gonna say Tainted is the only one that wouldn't be touched hdflr

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I know we wanted to nerf Aflame and Ephemeral a bit, fully rework Withering because it's fucking stupid, and then the others would at most get tweaked here and there

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Actually Hellbound would also be reworked

cobalt sand
eager bluff
eager bluff
cobalt sand
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Not really

spare pier
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Without having the nuance of, say, Adrenaline

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Which you need to build and not get hit to pull off

eager bluff
spare pier
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I think the only way it could work is if aiming it was ungodly difficult

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Since there isn't really a drawback to using it in Terraria

cobalt sand
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I mean, true as well. But only Yharim would have to be designed with this in mind, yes?
Because exomechs already have so many phases skipping one would be fine

eager bluff
spare pier
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Well, Noxus and Xeroc too

eager bluff
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multiple bosses

cobalt sand
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Byea mostly it just sounds cool ngl hdflr

eager bluff
spare pier
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But I'd prefer if we didn't have to account for people bringing that in Yharim when designing it

spare pier
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The problem is entirely that, if you lose a weapon in Terraria

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It doesn't matter at all

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You just pull out another one

cobalt sand
spare pier
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Basically the only way I can imagine this working is if you required some insane setup to pull it off

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Like, 15 seconds of uninterrupted setup

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And it also doesn't home in, so you'd have to aim it perfectly

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I also think this kinda works better as a weapon

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Might be a good Vehemence rework idea ngl

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But ultimately, yeah

eager bluff
spare pier
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I think it's better to let the idea rest instead of trying to make it fit in because this sounds like a balancing nightmare. It'd either be fucking broken or nearly useless, finding the middle ground would be hellish

eager bluff
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165k sounds too low for a thanatos oneshot

sinful adder
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This sounds like the kind of thing that shouldn't be a weapon at all, it should be an object you place in the world and kite the boss in front of, like the canons in vanilla

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Set up a complex wire setup and a system to get yourself out of the way of the attack because it will also damage you

cobalt sand
spare pier
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Amazing

spare pier
cobalt sand
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Canons are underrated

sinful adder
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Auric railgun

eager bluff
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master spark projector

spare pier
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I FUCKING LOVE MASTER SPARK GRAAAAAAH

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The best kind of attack in fiction is "big fuck you laser"

cobalt sand
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Love Sign: Fuck everything in this general direction

eager bluff
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shoutout to me getting stip to change one of vetras titles to master spark

sinful adder
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Take Thanatos's severed head and rig it to a bunch of exo prisms and miracle matter, and have it mounted on a cannon. Lure Xeroc in front of it, and hit the detonator.

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The actual detonator item

cobalt sand
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🔥 ✍️ 🔥 🔥

eager bluff
cobalt sand
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700 Draedon power cells

sinful adder
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I think this fits the niche of "hard to use source of damage against a boss you need to set up"

eager bluff
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what you need my friend
is 551 amps

sinful adder
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Make an auric nuke too, a sphere of auric metal with a slime inside it, and a seal that breaks to release the slime when you trigger it

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Auric shell now explodes from internal rejection pressure

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Then throws auric shrapnel in all directions, rejecting everything it hits

eager bluff
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so fun fact it is actually fully possible to facetank auric rejection if you have enough players with wulfrum drones

sinful adder
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What

eager bluff
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i have watched a man facetank a box of auric ore

sinful adder
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This is insane

spring helm
sinful adder
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The life dragon taking the auric soul of life

visual kiln
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its when i was born

spring helm
fierce pilot
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I have a question

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Uhmmm

eager bluff
scenic olive
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Auric Tesla Slime

visual kiln
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Auric Tesla Slime

cosmic zenith
cosmic zenith
eager bluff
fierce pilot
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My question

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Hehe

visual kiln
cosmic zenith
visual kiln
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sobbing rn

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crying

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i cannot believe stipulate venus

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my comfort discord user

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would say such horrific thigns

fierce pilot
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Uhmmmm... Is yharon gay?
Important lore question

cosmic zenith
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:c

fierce pilot
cosmic zenith
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Who knows

visual kiln
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yes

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yharon's gay

fierce pilot
visual kiln
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if anyone says otherwise tell them i disagree on an existential level

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they are objectively wrong

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in every way imagineable

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imo

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:3

fierce pilot
eager bluff
visual kiln
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i think stip can think

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debatably

eager bluff
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oh yeah stip can think

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just not straight thoughts

visual kiln
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wtf gay thoughts

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stip thinks in circles

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u present him a circle

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he will take it

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new thought acquired

eager bluff
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@cosmic zenith 🔵

visual kiln
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he has gained

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1 thought

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he can now think 1 thing

cosmic zenith
visual kiln
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nuh uh

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brain happy

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fixes

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gives u a circle

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🟢

hoary berry
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what happens if you give stip a square

visual kiln
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idk

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experiment time

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@cosmic zenith 🟪

spring helm
hoary berry
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popcorn

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help

spring helm
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ok

hoary berry
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true biome blade

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what the fuck do i do for its main entry

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i want to tie it to extant abhorrence's entry

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You've tamed even undead stars in your search for power, I see. Ordinarily, this magic would not settle so calmly within the hands of a terrestrial being—for it seeks dominion, and flees when that is beyond its reach. Perhaps this desire was purified by the natural energy contained within the blade's core, thus leaving this celestial might in your hands. In truth, this is but a fleeting trace of the power of the cosmos, but its potential is grand nonetheless. Wield this strength with confidence as you reach for greater stars.

spring helm
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okay then

hoary berry
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also this is biome blade's main entry

This weapon's potential is evident with a mere glance; its core shines with an enviable power over nature long since lost to the world, and the energies of Terraria dance around the blade like gentle fireflies and shooting stars. You've unlocked a great many possibilities by restoring the power the Biome Blade once lost; Her gaze rests upon you just as mine does, watching your every move with a protectiveness only She could bear. You have earned the earth's approval; now, you may reach for the stars.

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"shooting stars" and the last bit are meant to foreshadow TBB a little

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though shooting stars primarily has another meaning

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another two meanings actually

scenic olive
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what if you put auric soul in Biome Blade

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attuned itself to the soul

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gains the power of the domain

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Funny thought

hoary berry
scenic olive
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what if Draedon built a body out of Auric

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and powers up

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would he just explode

spring helm
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this desire was purified by the natural energy contained within the blade's core
to make the True Biome Blade, the recipe requires Core of Calamity, Astral Bars, and Life Alloys.
Cores of Calamity are the three hardmode essences solidified using ectoplasm. Draedon himself states that Life Alloy is
the life essence of the planet
and Astral Ore is essentually the Astral Biome's essence turned into metal alloy.

TBB's main upgrade is the merging of the attunements. This is also the upgrade that uses the most powerful essences that is available on the planet (not counting Auric), since Galaxia uses Cosmilite. So the TBB is the last step in utilizing what the planet has to offer.
The first recipe has you unite heaven and hell, the second uses souls to unite the hallow and astral, the third ties them all together.
This also fits with how all the materials to make the TBB are composite materials.

scenic olive
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How does Biome Blade achieve attunement with the corresponding Biome

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like

spring helm
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idk

hoary berry
scenic olive
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Mystery

spring helm
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my headcanon with it ties to the wooden sword as the BBB's base material and how the different trees all grow from the same acorn

scenic olive
spring helm
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especially since any wooden sword works

scenic olive
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Terraria strongest material

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wood

hoary berry
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i mean

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braelor's axe is pretty strong tbf

scenic olive
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Even Draedon hasnt figured it out

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the secret to Biome Blade

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was it the Godly Essence or the Cosmic Materials?
it was wood

hoary berry
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okay i haven't revised anything so it's not great, but:

In your grasp now is power unfathomable to much of humanity: the strength to rend stars and recreate them in turn. Equally, you have achieved a mastery over this planet few mortals could ever reach. The elements of the world await your call, united in their servitude to your will. With heaven, hell and all that lies between at your command, you are ready. The cosmic husk, the purifying flame, the feral amalgamation, the alien serpent... They stand in your way now, but they will fall as those before them did—find relish in your grand might, for the pinnacle of all beings is yours to achieve.

spring helm
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I like it

hoary berry
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i'm changing "cosmic husk" to "lunar husk" and "alien serpent" to "cosmic serpent"

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i was tempted to say "claim the title of Terrarian" after the em dash but that felt too cheesy

sinful adder
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Everyone is a terrarian

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Also, cosmic husk makes sense

hoary berry
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it does

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but i didnt like it as much

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as lunar husk

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and alien serpent sounds a little reductive compared to cosmic serpent (not much, but it irked me a little)

hoary berry
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it'd be like saying "claim the title of Human"

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or not even that

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"claim the title of Earthling"

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it just sounds a little silly

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although it would make the speaker sounds a little removed from the norms of terraria's language

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which would fit but

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still not worth it

spring helm
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I am the Popcorn

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Throughout heaven and earth, I alone am the popped one

hoary berry
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okay i also have no ideas for the attunements of TBB

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on top of that i don't even remember what lamentations of the chained does

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as a primary

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i only remember its secondary

untold oracle
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Good text

hoary berry
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thank

latent bolt
hoary berry
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nor do i

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for the reasons i described

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it was just a passing idea that i rejected

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also, swordsmith's pride has a use time of 17, whereas the other three attunements have a use time of 18

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weird

hoary berry
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since the whole idea is that you have achieved "a mastery over this planet" i think it'd be cool if each of the four attunements drew their power from distinctly separate forces that all combine to represent the world as we know it
lamentations of the chained, drawing power from death and the afterlife (notably connected to the dungeon
swordsmith's pride, drawing power from life and the constant advancement of intelligent life in their passion and crafts
mercurial tides, drawing power from the sea of stars that orbits Terraria and their everlasting, protective presence
and then i dunno for sanguine fury yet

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i have a WIP entry for lamentations though

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Wails from a most tragic graveyard seem to have latched onto your blade—transforming part of its core with spectral might. Although it is an unusual power, its strength is undeniable; the combination of immense raw energy and its ability to bypass physical defences makes it a most frightening weapon indeed.

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it's less flowery than the entries for TBB's predecessor because of some lore regarding the usual speaker

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which i wont say

visual kiln
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Ñ a

hoary berry
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mrrp

untold oracle
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Mreow

hoary berry
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Over my many years, I've witnessed a great number of people sacrifice themselves for their passion; among them, however, are those who succeeded in pursuing the betterment of their craft—those who left an imprint in the world as great innovators, leaders and warriors. The traces they left behind have been given power by your blade, bringing history to the forefront of the world once more in the form of a powerful weapon capable of sweeping aside even the oceans themselves.

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swordsmith's pride

hoary berry
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i cannot think of anything for sanguine fury or mercurial tides

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i think i'll just take a break for now

split mortar
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Sanguine fury bloodmoon?

hoary berry
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The TBB attunement

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Mix of arid grandeur and decay’s retort

split mortar
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Oh

untold oracle
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Maybe sanguine fury could be about literally harnessing the blood spilled in the crusade?

untold oracle
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Would it be totally hilarious if you killed EoW by taking a stalactite and stabbing it into the worm’s side, cutting it the long way

hoary berry
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that reminds me of the first chapter of helliconia spring

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or whatever that book is called

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|| massive fucking worm thing that's several miles long, killed by taking a spear and using its motion to cut along its entire body ||

sinful adder
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You'd think the worm would stop moving, or more horizontally, if that happened

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There are tons of sharp rocks that would have done that naturally

untold oracle
#

But that would be boring..,.

hoary berry
untold oracle
#

I’d assume it’s too large and has too much energy to just stop

sinful adder
#

That makes sense

#

But I'm just over analyzing things

hoary berry
#

i should probably finish reading that book

sinful adder
#

It's a cool scene

hoary berry
#

|| also it was described as being related to a god, so i don't doubt it could have durability or toughness that's beyond what would normally possible, such that only very sharp weapons could actually penetrate its skin ||

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|| though whether or not it is canonically related to a god i don't know, because how much genuine involvement the gods of that story have is difficult for me to tell with how little i've read ||

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|| oh also there could have been tens or even hundreds of these guys just chilling in a mountain range. that's spooky ||

solar wharf
random mulch
#

made an exo armor design cause it's fun

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faint plank
#

miracle vortex

#

sick desing tho
i fw it

real silo
#

Exo commando no way

#

Looks sick

untold oracle
#

Draedon was influenced by this

random mulch
untold oracle
#

Amazing

mortal osprey
#

Really good

thick slate
fading sun
latent bolt
#

what are the approximate freezing and melting points of cosmilite

split mortar
#

We dunno

fading sun
untold oracle
sage berry
fading sun
mighty zenith
fading sun
sage berry
#

The term is “Freezing point” always

mighty zenith
#

fake user

sage berry
#

We don’t ever talk of a sublimation point either actually

#

What if Cryogen’s melting point

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Is*

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Same as normal water?

split mortar
#

That or it’s magically cold and so can’t really be brought to melting temp

sage berry
#

Okay understandable

real silo
#

Cryogen is just that cool

#

He has breakcore for his theme that's how cool he is

pliant ruin
#

hi lore chat

sage berry
#

Heya!

indigo glade
#

Hi.

pliant ruin
#

i am currently charging my phone a bit before going to the mall

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decided to go all out on makeup and stuff i look so awesom

#

anyways what are we discussing

#

something about cryogen melting

split mortar
#

Yeah

pliant ruin
#

i don't think it can melt realistically

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magic and all

sage berry
#

Yes how hot would it need to be to melt it, or other things we don’t know like someone mentioned cosmolite

indigo glade
pliant ruin
#

I think fire and heat, much like ingame, would damage it greatly

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but i don't think it's quite as effective as melting it

indigo glade
#

Watergen.

pliant ruin
#

Like, it's only gonna melt if subjected to extreme heat at prolonged durations

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ex: a flamethrower

split mortar
#

I think cryogen is kept magically cold as fuck, so it would take gear far further then what we are intended to get to melt them and overwhelm the magic cooling

pliant ruin
#

but it isn't gonna be instant, or easy

#

I mean

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i think if you kill cryogen with a flamethrower or a fire debuff

sage berry
#

I’ve thought it would be neat if we could have like a photogen

pliant ruin
#

you're basically melting it

#

To reword my statement

#

I think you can melt cryogen but it takes far more than melting a similarly sized ice cube

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If you kill cryogen with a fire weapon ingame, thats basically what ur doing

untold oracle
sage berry
split mortar
untold oracle
sage berry
#

The idea of it having melted textures if you’re using hot weapons would be pretty cool

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Or hot

#

Or kinda lukewarm

#

Whatever tickles your fancy

pliant ruin
#

It'd be lukewarm i'd say

#

Very lukewarm idea, clearly

sage berry
indigo glade
#

I think every idea regarding Cryogen would be cool.

sage berry
#

Fair

pliant ruin
#

Well, melting him wouldn't be

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it'd be lukewarm

#

So most ideas regarding Cryogen would be cool

sage berry
#

Maybe boiling?

#

After long enough

indigo glade
#

Would evaporating Cryogen be a hot take of an idea?

pliant ruin
#

I think if you turned Cryogen into Pyrogne that'd be a hot idea

pliant ruin
sage berry
#

We’re just playing with words rn

untold oracle
#

Can’t we just sublimate cryogen

sage berry
#

Yeah! Let’s do it!

latent bolt
#

melted cryogen with liquified permafrost

split mortar
#

Can we throw cryogen to the eels

sage berry
latent bolt
#

water and dead ice wizard

untold oracle
#

Nah

#

Now he’s just the water wizard

sleek halo
#

Cryogen can only be melted by extremely high temps

#

so yeah flames from a flamethrower would make sense

#

continous

untold oracle
#

I think the ice of cryogen is magically altered so it literally can’t melt

#

So you have to shatter it

sleek halo
#

I mean calamitas would have been the one to do it

#

And with probably the assistance of permafrost

real silo
#

"calamitas, my final lesson to you is how to trap people in a pokeball"

split mortar
#

Cryogen is the masterball confirmed

untold oracle
#

I think it’s interesting that Calamitas is so potent in magic that she’s able to make a construct using magic she doesn’t specialize in (albeit with Perma’s help likely) and it still is strong enough to be a hardmode boss

split mortar
#

Yeah

untold oracle
#

Another funny note is that you can level the entire world to smithereens and turn it all to a statue lava torture chamber and Cal still finds you a good person in the end

sleek halo
split mortar
#

Rebecca did say she would like it to be different

sleek halo
#

Cal is so overwhemingly powerful

#

regardless of being average

#

the shit she does succeed in making are supercharged

sleek halo
split mortar
untold oracle
#

That would be awesome

#

So she would just flee if you have done heinous acts?

sleek halo
#

She’d..

#

probably try to kill you

real silo
#

Enraged scal no way

sleek halo
#

Cause you’d end up proving her right

real silo
#

Box or not she's killing your ass

untold oracle
#

So would she just fight to the end…

sleek halo
#

Yea

#

I mean realistically

#

she had a lot of juice left

untold oracle
#

I refuse to see scal killed CalPat

sleek halo
#

I doubt the person who incinerated half a damn sea

split mortar
sleek halo
split mortar
#

Isn’t she at like 1% when we beat her?

#

I doubt she could have kept going for much longer

sleek halo
#

Her current shield is

untold oracle
sleek halo
#

Who is to say she can’t just…

#

make another

split mortar
sleek halo
#

Like current lore

#

will be better shown

#

she stops fighting

#

not rly…

#

forced into it

#

just calms down iirc

untold oracle
# sleek halo make another

The utter disbelief and dread in the Terrarian’s eyes when Scal just summons another shield just as they thought she could be now killed

sleek halo
#

yeah Skull

#

I mean I’m not saying we couldn’t beat her

#

if she continued

#

considering the exo mechs are around her in terms of strength

random mulch
#

the full gang

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sleek halo
#

no way

#

large man

mighty zenith
#

big man not bulky enough

untold oracle
#

Yoo that’s sick

mighty zenith
#

0/10...............

#

(/j)

sleek halo
#

bad

#

garbo

#

bad

mighty zenith
real silo
#

garbad

untold oracle
#

Garbo go take a bath

real silo
#

that's right garbo

#

go unstink thyself

sleek halo
mighty zenith
#

i am never stinky

#

you all are stinky

sleek halo
#

nop

real silo
#

the madman thinks of everyone else as mad

sleek halo
#

I kinda want to write a scene

real silo
#

little does he know the truth

sleek halo
#

of my character finding draedon’s labs

#

Cuase they’re an engineer as well

#

so they’d essentially be geekjng

untold oracle
real silo
#

True...

sleek halo
#

(Then that would change)

untold oracle
#

My character is not experienced at all in engineering and she got mad after trying to craft a seeking mechanism for 6 hours

sleek halo
#

lmao

#

Mine has to be cause like

untold oracle
#

(She eventually got it tho)

sleek halo
#

They have a robotic arm

#

arm lost to incineration

#

had to be amputated cause of burns far too severe

real silo
sleek halo
real silo
#

I don't get angry at people but as soon as a device stops functioning I get so pissed it's unreal

sleek halo
#

RoD put inside the mechanical arm

sleek halo
real silo
#

It's like

sleek halo
real silo
#

I'm really good at controlling my anger when I'm around people

sleek halo
#

Especially jn the later fights

real silo
#

But as soon as I'm slightly alone

#

I start tweaking at the littlest shit

sleek halo
#

DoG caught him mid air and was about to kill him

#

and just

#

teleports out of the way

#

DoG rages

#

literally baby rage

hoary berry
sleek halo
hoary berry
#

unless i'm in a fucking brilliant mood, my control over my temper plummets when i'm alone

real silo
#

Doesn't even have to be me in a room alone

#

I've had meltdowns while my sister was in the room

#

I was just too busy being angry at something that I forgot she was there

untold oracle
# untold oracle My character is not experienced at all in engineering and she got mad after tryi...

The blueprints were very detailed and complex, and Léa got very frustrated after trying over and over again for many hours without any outcome. By the time of sunset she had finally managed to make good progress, and after long enough she had created her first electronic device: a seeking mechanism. However, she needed to charge it with power cells for it to function in any way, and with the little factories she had placed down being extremely slow, she decided to go to sleep after a hard day of trial and error.
Here’s the part

sleek halo
#

I rly need to write stuff for my character

#

it’s essentially all in my head

real silo
#

Relatable

hoary berry
#

everything i've written recently hasn't been for any specific OC

real silo
#

Carried me through high school 🙏

untold oracle
#

The eeper..,.

sleek halo
#

He only kills 1 animal from the SS

#

which is crabulon to put it out of its misery

untold oracle
#

SS?

#

Sunken sea?

sleek halo
#

yea

stuck hawk
split mortar
stuck hawk
#

does that explain why he has mushroom fungi growing on him or something

split mortar
#

Crab is dead

#

We fight a animated corpse

stuck hawk
#

ohh

#

is there a way to study the lore

indigo glade
#

Pins of this channel.

untold oracle
#

No, don’t read the lore doc

#

Interpret everything according to your own headcanon XD

split mortar
#

There’s still a lot left up to interpretation

stuck hawk
#

oh yeah the mushrooms are some sort of infection and controlled crabulons corpse

split mortar
#

Ye

sleek halo
#

I kinda

#

have an idea

#

for a dog look

#

I love face splitting entities

#

Like

#

Have his face split into 6

#

The two splits on the sides would be able to harden into his iconic jaws

#

and are tipped with teeth

#

then have his actual mouth be the one he has but covered by the face until split

#

so basically he’d be able to work anything into them using his face

frozen zodiac
#

how many eyes does dog have

sleek halo
#

4

frozen zodiac
#

but what if there was more

sleek halo
#

idk

untold oracle
split mortar
lime sleet
#

Do the wrath of gods mod canon?

faint plank
#

no

lime sleet
#

damn

faint plank
#

unnoficial addon

#

keyword

#

unnoficial

stuck hawk
#

unofficial

lime sleet
#

😭

faint plank
#

wtv

lime sleet
#

just wanted to ask

#

why deity hold noxux while he tried to escape

untold oracle
#

It’s an old lore thing kinda

#

Since xeroc hated noxus in that

stuck hawk
#

wait whos xeroc again

dusk laurel
#

The god of light

faint plank
#

lightbulb

lime sleet
#

when i defeathim for the first time but i didint saw it

#

but when i checked mdal

#

i saw that

#

noxus was tried to escape but deitys hand holded him

untold oracle
#

Well, nd wants to kill noxus and they try to flee because they don’t wanna die I think

split mortar
#

Noxus is getting replaced by avatar and nameless is becoming seperate from old lore so wotg will be its own kinda canon later

eager bluff
#

nameless has been separated from old lore since before wotg even released

untold oracle
split mortar
#

I am losing the fight at not biting my phone case

It has some sorts missing already

#

I am not swallowing

#

Just biting

indigo glade
#

What?

untold oracle
#

Also, if you eat your phone it’ll be integrated within you

split mortar
untold oracle
#

I know

#

That’s why you should eat the phone

#

It’s like eating just the apple skin and not the fruit

dusk laurel
split mortar
#

It’s so easy to bite through how was this meant to protect my phone

sleek halo
#

not resist slicing

split mortar
#

Fair

solar wharf
cloud ibex
#

Put him back

split mortar
solar wharf
strange stump
mighty zenith
#

:(

#

im sorry [user]

strange stump
#

[hyperlink blocked]

light linden
#

Hey is there a lore explanation for Uelibloom appearing after Providence's death?

indigo glade
light linden
#

ok thank you

high lynx
pliant ruin
#

Uelibloom is being replaced

#

Don't think too hard abt it lorewise

#

It's supposed to be providence's essence yet does not fit her in the slightest

high lynx
#

Most in game triggers aren’t strictly cannon

indigo glade
# high lynx

Reading Bloom Slime's bestiary entry proves it is made from Providence's essence.

pliant ruin
#

Uelibloom is

indigo glade
#

And if you think Uelibloom being made from essence is farfetched, it already happens with Demonite, Crimtane and Hallowed.

untold oracle
high lynx
#

Nah i just think generally most triggered events are mainly for game balance

#

A lot of them have lore reasons

#

Like cryonic or the dungeon getting better and such

#

But stuff like the plauge

#

Those are for game balance

untold oracle
#

Plague is getting changed anyways sometime

#

But I headcanon that the jungle is always plagued at the time you play

light linden
#

oh that reminds me, is there anything stopping the plague from infecting plantera?

high lynx
#

Yeah

high lynx
#

She is in a buld idk

untold oracle
high lynx
#

Does she have brain

untold oracle
#

I think plague doesn’t affect souls

high lynx
#

Or consciousness

split mortar
untold oracle
light linden
#

it has always struck me as odd that something with bulbs across the jungle hasn't at least gotten slightly infected

high lynx
#

Exactly

untold oracle
light linden
high lynx
#

Slimes have a consciousness though

split mortar
light linden
#

it clearly has something driving it

untold oracle
#

Slimes are organic

high lynx
#

Not enough to resist the astral infection but still

untold oracle
#

Plague can’t infect ectoplasm p sure

high lynx
#

The only slimes with something driving them have absorbed something

#

Like blight slimes or aforementioned bloom slimes

light linden
untold oracle
#

I don’t know what to think of the bulbs

#

Maybe they are similar to hive tumours and perforator cysts?

high lynx
#

Again lot of boss spawns are also not cannon, but i think plantera might be cannon because of the people growing crap

#

The pinnacle of plant or whatever

#

Oh and for non cannon boss spawns (feel free to correct me im not 100% sure), blessed dragon egg, yharim comes to you on his own, the mech boss summons (i think) because they are wandering the world, brimstone elemental(?) because she is just guarding the brimstone crags, and probably more but im too lazy to think about the rest

untold oracle
#

Yeah looks good

fiery meadow
#

Honestly I think it’d be cool if the boss summons were canonized properly, cause you can make it work

#

Vanilla summons can be justified fairly easily

#

Cal summons just need to be made more creative or accurate

#

Gimmie a sec, I’m about to yap up a justification for boss summons

untold oracle
#

I mean you could argue worm food for example is canon

#

Suspicious looking eye tho?

dusk laurel
#

I think Reb said once that it wasn't gonna happen for most bosses

fiery meadow
#

Suspicious Looking Eye is a little demon eye used to spy, and you release it to send it to the EoC, alerting it of your presence

#

Worm food attracts the EoW because, well…

untold oracle
#

Eoc is literally a random beast

#

It doesn’t have recon drones or smth 😭

fiery meadow
#

So?

#

It has the audacity to give an evil presence once you get strong enough

fiery meadow
#

Power cells are literal power cells for Golem

#

You can make stuff work if you put thought into it, which I know the lore writers can do, it’s their job after all HDfailure

#

Honestly I find the decanonization of things in Calamity to often be boring

untold oracle
#

I mean what else is there decanonized other than summons

fiery meadow
#

Two entire moon events for one

untold oracle
#

I mean most of them are blatant references

indigo glade
#

How are summons even "decanonised"? Vanilla never explains them in the first place.

untold oracle
#

There’s only 2 criteria for things to not be canon
1.) contradicts lore
2.) reference to other media

fiery meadow
#

Lore writer just has to say “not canon lol”, and then it ceases to be

indigo glade
fiery meadow
#

I’m curious since it’s now on my mind, but is the Murasama canon?

indigo glade
#

No.

fiery meadow
#

I’m assuming it’s not but

untold oracle
#

No

fiery meadow
#

Ok good

untold oracle
#

It’s a mgrr reference

indigo glade
#

Explicit references to other media aren't canon.

indigo glade
untold oracle
#

Oh yeah that too

fiery meadow
#

Except for Cirrus and Demonshade iirc

#

My mind might be faulty on that though

devout grotto
#

Cirrus isn't canon either I think

indigo glade
untold oracle
#

A calamitous zone, even

#

I think it would be cool if the distortion would have something similar than the noxus eclipse in wotg

#

Like you see something and you’re not sure what it is but it’s intimidating af

fiery meadow
#

It’d be cool to see little distortion portals open up and dissipate in the sky

#

Show that DoG is actively prowling or that it’s influence is manifesting more

#

Hell, it’d be cool to see DoG in the background just roaming about

#

Especially post-ML

spring helm
#

The devs should make Yharim sing “I just lost my dog” after you kill the Devourer

hoary berry
#

yharim was influenced by this

solar wharf
#

i love moles

solar wharf
mighty zenith
light linden
fiery meadow
#

Yeah

light linden
#

that would be cool

fiery meadow
#

Also damn, first time I’ve seen someone actually call post-ML Godseeker mode

light linden
#

I do it sometimes

#

imo it's a better name than just 'post-ml' considering ml is supposed to be the end of hardmode

#

also what exactly is astrum deus's lore?

#

was it always infected?

dusk laurel
#

No.

solar wharf
#

wow vanillin

#

great job at explaining astrum deus's lore

dusk laurel
#

Astrum Deus is this space worm that eats stars

solar wharf
#

to thunder

light linden
#

did it just eat the wrong star?

dusk laurel
#

It got infected when it ate an infected star, Draedon suspects it to be one of many in a species

#

It was worshiped as a god of the stars or smth like that, but it isn't an actual god

light linden
#

speaking of gods, which ones do we even know of in lore?

cobalt sand
#

Actually is deus just two worms or can it perform mitosis

light linden
#

ik of Xeroc, the god of sacrifices, the god of water, the god of lightning, and Providence

dusk laurel
#

Providence, Slime God, Xeroc, God of Sacrifices, God of the Seas, Goddess of Electricity

#

These are the ones mentioned ingame iirc

cobalt sand
#

Is blood god real

dusk laurel
#

Then there is the God of Space, Shakidou, [geometry not space the area] which is not mentioned ingame yet

cobalt sand
#

*a seperate entity i mean

light linden
#

one thing I do find interesting about the gods vs dragons

#

the gods have different titles compared to the dragons despite having the same powers

dusk laurel
#

They have different domains

#

Due to imperfect ascensions

dusk laurel
#

Goddess of Life

light linden
#

e.g. the god of sacrifices took the dragon of death's soul

light linden
dusk laurel
#

Provi's domain is not fire

solar wharf
#

when was that revealed

dusk laurel
#

Here

#

weeks ago

solar wharf
#

do we know anything about him?

#

like which dragon he ate

#

well, absorbed

dusk laurel
dusk laurel
#

Vetrasyl's domain was storms, Otonilou is electricity

solar wharf
dusk laurel
#

Xeroc and Silva got perfect ascensions

light linden
dusk laurel
#

No

#

Not known

cobalt sand
light linden
#

hm

dusk laurel
#

Purity isn't really related to fire

light linden
#

btw wasn't the god of electricity tied to the sky islands as well as illmeris?

dusk laurel
#

She ascended with Vetrasyl's soul

#

But she was from Ilmeris or smth

#

I don't think a jellyfish can live in the sky

light linden
#

maybe I'm thinking of the dragon

#

the donor items aren't canon btw right?

dusk laurel
#

Yep

#

Dedicated content is not canon

formal bay
#

Sad that my boy cosmic shiv isn't Canon

light linden
#

I was more wondering about the gaze of crysthamyr considering it's a dragon

cobalt sand
#

I guess Draedon never made the Anomaly's Nanogun then
Even though it uses pretty much the same palette/themes as the rest

devout grotto
#

Praying that there's no canon god of smithing/the forge or else hage

devout grotto
cobalt sand
dusk laurel
#

Deus might get reworked when the resprite gets implemented

#

The fight is not really unique or space-like to me rn and it could use it

cobalt sand
#

Absolutely. The fact that we free it could stay though, its neat

dusk laurel
#

We will still free it

mighty zenith
#

deus is like the biggest victim of "destroyer syndrome" in the mod

#

the second being DoG

untold forge
# light linden there's a difference?

the only 2 gods to have the same domain as the auric dragon whose soul they ascended with are Xeroc and Silva, for whatever reason every other gods ascension was not as perfect as their ascension was

untold oracle
#

I want to see the god of baking

mighty zenith
#

but deus has basically nothing to it besides splitting

#

which is just kinda lame

untold oracle
mighty zenith
#

i love to make fun of clown car deus but at least it was interesting

indigo glade
#

Deus has lasers, mines that eventually explode into lasers, and lasers but they can always shoot at you.

untold forge
#

oh damn its garbo i didnt even notice

mighty zenith
#

:3

#

hello

indigo glade
#

Spooky profile picture.

#

Aureus died.

#

💔

dusk laurel
#

Dead Squirtle

mighty zenith
#

no he didnt calsad

untold forge
#

Aureus is fine

#

just looking at astral flowers

strange stump
indigo glade
mighty zenith
#

he's eeping

untold forge
#

garbo was squirtle the last time i was active here

mighty zenith
#

hibernation for spooky season

indigo glade
mighty zenith
#

beauty sleep for chrimas

indigo glade
#

Damn.

#

Sleeping in until the worst time of the year.

mighty zenith
untold forge
#

wait where did my provi emote go

#

oh here she is

mighty zenith
#

nitro...

indigo glade
dusk laurel
indigo glade
#

Needed Uelibloom.

untold forge
dusk laurel
#

Uelibloom when it gets nuked and replaced

mighty zenith
#

gulpsplosion

indigo glade
#

I am going insane.

untold forge
indigo glade
#

I don't know where a thing is in the code is.

mighty zenith
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unfortunately provg overdosed on cocaine

dusk laurel
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She what

indigo glade
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On cocaine.

strange stump
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damn

indigo glade
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Can you read?

dusk laurel
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I can, in fact