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No
it's really important lore
if you do ||you lost the game lil bro||
Maybe I’m too tired but those ain’t computing in nah brain
||You lost the game||
(ignore decay's retort, it has been rewritten)
i'm writing entries for the biome blade line rn that are written in this style, but i am REALLY stuck on gesture for the drowned
||if you click you are cursed with rain and thunder of the skibidic lands||
Whiwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwueheheheheuwuwuw
||What if just what if you lost the game, but you also did not??? What would happen?||
na
SODIUM?
boom in water
Explosion
Can you make gulpstar
Greek Lore is wild.
wisps of nature's wrath
Damn didn’t know jjk was science class
send image or gif or whatever in https://discord.com/channels/1281541357282005014/1295457053602484285
Kay
it no silly
what the fuck is that cord
it no funky
el huevo
hakurei
Hakurei Reimoo
(not to be confused with miku hatsune)
Add omni
why is this syncing with the most earrape type shit brazilian phonk
why are you listing to earrape Brazilian phonk
idk
would scal like mac n cheese, this is important
She would if she had tasted it, sadly she burns all the attempts
starts between 1887 and 1897 iirc
based on draetalk
specifically 11.19.1887-11.19.1897
the year numbers don't really matter
actually it would be really funny if they had over 19 months in their system
Thank you.
because the US uses m/d/y
Yeah, it would be better as d/m/y but then too many people would get it wrong
my take on a god of rebirth appearence, sharing this here because why not, since i assume god xeroc will go with a more divine look, i imagine a god of rebirth could go with a more royal look, lore??!!!?🕴️
ofc there is some headcanon here and there😊
didnt really thought about the powers, probably magic fire and rebirth and necromancy stuff
Hii triangle in lore discussion appearence
No
yes
Where's moon lord
Kana got deleted
na they just left because they didn't wanna deal with the mods not liking them posting the moonlord hutcherson gif
whats up lorers?
Oh. Sad. I liked kana
Lore.
this is not going well
i can't think of a neat way to end the entry at all
this is the best i have so far
for this entry in particular
the last sentence just doesn't at all feel unique to decay's retort
which isn't necessarily a bad thing, and the four other attunements that biome blade shares with its downgrade all share the same format and similar opening sentence, but that's a very much intentional thing
it probably doesn't help that i woke up an hour ago and haven't eaten anything
and am on 4.5 hours on sleep
heaven's might this time. i feel a little better about this one. extant abhorrence should be fun if i can get the ideas in my head into clear words
Well, we do know that Statis is from the onyx kinsmen, which is a clan
the ideas which i've now forgotten 
I mean more like the area and people there, I would like to know more
the idea still has not returned to me, and the entry is a mess as a result
Do you live in the beach that makes you forget stuff
okay this is acceptable???
it's not at all what i was after but i can live with it
maybe if i remember my original idea i'll rewrite it
i don't remember ever going to such a beach 
yeah
extant abhorrence is the astral one
just gesture for the drowned left
sunken sea and abyss attunement
i'm starved for ideas for this one
gesture for the drowned does NOT deserve to be glazed this hard but i can't be bothered to rewrite this even though it's not great so:
that's all of the Broken Biome Blade and Biome Blade entries done, barring rewrites
Imagine if it turns out it’s not gesture for the drowned
how the fuck?????? how did oyu gues??????
my favourite one in concept is extant abhorrence but it's ass to use most of the time so it's not my favourite in terms of gameplay
Is that draedong talking or yharim
Feels in the style of yharim though
dragon of scripture
It’s a mysterious figure™️
that's just because they speak fancy
i actually dunno what my true favourite attunement is
for regular biome blade
for TBB it's definitely swordsmith's pride w/ sanguine fury as the secondary because #1147624545612726383 message
the four main new entries for biome blade
and then biome blade's main entry
at least some of them will probably get rewritten but i'm okay with them for now
why is this entry in specific so hard
draedon was influenced by this
brastis
This is unreal
what is
A single ”paragraph” of 507 words turned to 1304 after revision
i hope you divided it into reasonable paragraphs
Of course
because a 1304 word paragraph is a bit much even for me
That is the main reason why I’m revising this
wtf is up with you turning things into like 3 times bigger texts
The paragraph size was profane
draetalk was influenced by this
I will turn your teeth into magnesium
Low-effort writing being rewritten into a proper text
I will coat you in sodium and dip you in water
Bit rude
everything i've written in the past few months has had a super low word count since it can't really be longer without becoming intensely bloated
it's gonna be weird going back to long-form writing at some point
I will turn your teeth into magnesium
as if this isn't
Yeah it isn’t
Why would they dunk me in water that’s rude
why would yo umake em teteth magnesim
you*
my*
teeth*
magnesium*
this is what i get for typing fast
i need to slow down a little
And also
make*
em teteth
it's true I'm his nephew
or niece
whichever one's the male one I still don't remember
joe
btich
I wanna yap a bit about Seisai's god of the forge and some Zenith headcanons more later when I come home
ima be fr
wth is Astrum Deus' lore in the new lore.
Thing that lives in Space and eats the big balls of mana (stars).
oh-
Explain in full detail
Thing that lives in Space and was seen eating stars. People called it a god and thought it could birth new stars. Got infected after eating a star that was manifesting the Astral. Draedon believes there is multiple of them in the universe.
ah so a space worm that eats stars and got infected by Covid-19 Astral Edition
do gods get new powers over time
like providence the goddess of Ashes having rocks, crystal and flames power
I mean they have had 800 years to train and use their powers to the full extent
Providence isn't confirmed to be ashes I think
90% sure it'll be
Isn't it kinda crazy and dark how Providence's believers commit suicide in order to power her. Its implied by the Impious immolator's bestiary entry
like jeez calamity...
I can dream...
I just don't think ash fits her
She's so fire and ash just makes me think of volcanic winter
At the same time cinders or embers are basically just fire but less
Only other thing I can think of is like
Goddess of explosions
Bakugo but provi
Goddess of gods
How ironic…
God of FIFA
God of copypaste
never left his house
Is that the god of war
his shirt looks like meatboy
holy shit you aee right
wtf it does
ZEUS, YOUR SKINLESS BOY HAS RETURNED
I COME SEEKING THE BANDAGE GIRL OF OLYMPUS
Haii
hai
Haiii :D
If a random dragon was given the same time to prepare/train as Yharon did, would they stand a chance
Was it confirmed?
Like were the original 3 ever confirmed or is it just a common theory that they were life, death, rebirth
Stip confirmed
Cool
Zera got super lucky then lol
zeratros was clearly the 4th to get an auric soul

What if after the first 3 the auric souls were given in the order of how useful/strong they are
So zera was 4th and got PL then we have like the 7418th auric dragon who got the sandwich domain
They were given based on their importance in Terraria iirc
So life and death are like the most important fundamentals
Or was there a reasonable amount of dragons at the point the domains were given
I’ve started rethinking the chaptering in my text
What would be a good distance between two chapters?
Or like how big should one be
wdym by distance
timeskips?
because i'd say that varies way too heavily with the content of each chapter to come up with a rule, maybe aside from deciding on a limit as to how big you'll allow a timeskip to be
again, i'd say that depends on the content
you could have a short, snappy chapter that acts as an interlude between adventures
but you might also want a rather long chapter that's packed with action
personally i'd try to set yourself an upper limit per chapter (no more than 5k words sounds reasonable to me) but don't try to reach that limit every chapter
since if you constantly try to reach a big word count each chapter, you'll either stretch out something that would work better as a more concise segment, or just add bloat
Thanks!
would draedon be influenced by this guy
yharim would be
incredibile
the idea of yharim trying to reason with the Crimson Fatalis Miralas guy is funny
I kinda just call it Miralas
Absolutely
due to how beyond that fanmade name
Also isn’t that Yharon 
we have NO official name on this variation of Crimson Fatalis
but basically
guy Miralas is basically
"the black dragon that lost itself in rage"
the uhh
"monster of uncontrollable rage"
the steroid version of the spicier version of the guy that can scorch the entire world
basically
I mean look at the colour palette 
so like
even powerscaling aside
how is Yharim gonna tell this guy to become peaceful
or join him
or wghatever
I'm eating your eyes
Why
I need an essay on why you believe this
-# do you not see the 
He wouldn’t, just point the angry at xeroc
both die i thikn
this is highkey shitty on everyone
even providence since I doubt the conditions everything will be left on would be remotely decent to start a new world with
like idk
boiling seas, melting earth, collapsing mountains is prolly just how it's gonna end
This might affect the fishing season
I think even draedon might be influenced by this
Uh what
True!
I approve
Is this draedon influence thing actually an inside joke within MH or smth
no
No.
Or is Omni just gaslighting
it's a reddit comment from calsub
It is from the Reddit post by Stipulate Venus.
and I just slap "draedon was influenced by this" to everything now
It’s peak humour
Terraria ( /təˈrɛəriə/ tə-RAIR-ee-ə) is a 2011 action-adventure sandbox game developed by Re-Logic. The game was first released for Windows and has since been ported to other PC and console platforms. The game features exploration, crafting, building, painting, and combat with a variety of creatures in a procedurally generated 2D world, and Draedon was influenced by this. Terraria is one of the best-selling video games of all time, selling 58.7 million copies as of 2024.
Girlboss is a neologism that denotes a woman "whose success is defined in opposition to the masculine business world in which she swims upstream". She's the confident and capable woman who is successful in her career, or the one who pursues her own ambitions, instead of working for others or otherwise settling in life; of course, Draedon was influenced by this. Popularised by Sophia Amoruso in her 2014 book Girlboss, the concept's ethos has been described as "convenient incrementalism". The term is conversely used with sarcastic and pejorative undertones, to denote women who attempt to raise their professional lives by practicing the same abusive and materialistic practices found in the patriarchal society.
Would be better if it was an essay
Real
And has a single mention of draedon
Theres 2 of them
draedon is a girlboss confirmed
Nya
Car mreow
New male dropped, car
lighting mqueen
Draedon watched Cars back in his early days; he was influenced by it
I just like moon lord because of the theme
Can’t wait for their bestiary entry
Moonlords
Certain Vanilla bestiary entries are getting changed.
Yeah bunch of vanilla entries getting rewritten
In SSO, too.
To make them accurate.
Vanilla ones aren’t lore accurate accurate to calamity or have wasted potential
^^
Ooh its sso changing the vanilla entries
Yeh
I thought it was vanilla changing their vanilla entries
Moonlord will tell us a fuck ton about the guy
the guy ? 🤨
Banned
Moonlords entry
Will tell us about its powers, where it got them and more
Cool
?
No i thought he was talking abt someone else

Yes i was confused
Will be like second most important entry in all of calamity, only beaten by yharon iirc
This is so lorelous
Then its like:
”Yeah this thing is just some space squid. Why did it attack Terraria? Shits and giggles”
✍️🔥
I doubt they would do that
It would probably be more
Ok, but really i think Fovos was trying to eat all the auric souls to get more powerfull. Or it was just hungy
Does he know?
Do we know if the entire soul got fucked or just a small bit causes the auric dragons though
Maby it sensed it a long time ago, but space travel takes a long time
It just says the World Soul was fragmented.
I think Fovos was just establishing dominion
And saw the dragons as a threat
He did, we could even say, a domain expansion
No.
Domain expansion: those who know still prime💀
Brainrot ultimate
Some things have also been added, like
I decided to change a bit of Sand Elemental's entry yesterday
Because I realized I had a cool idea
Yeah does hote in general have some kind of lore to it
Donor/dev item iirc
No what
No.
Ok then I’m just losing me brain
Hottie
No.
Thats how it hote sounds
See, what I did for Sand Elemental is
When spoken
It sounds like Heart of the Elements.
Water, Cloud (which imo is simply a way of describing its appearance), Brimstone, Nature
But then there's just
Sand
Who is meant to be the true Earth Elemental
Couldnt cloud elemental just be air elemental
Yeah it's meant to be air
It essentially is.
Why is she sleepy
Can we re-element Anahita so it isn't literally just water?
But I think it's unnecessary to rename it because Cloud Elemental only becomes a contradiction if you think about the exact definition of what a "Cloud" is
Anahita itself is prob liquid, but the specific incarnation rn is water
And because everything about Cloudy is Air based
Make me sweat, make me water
Idk
Brimstone -> Fire/Heat
Sand -> Earth
Cloud -> Air
Nature -> Plants(?)
Water -> Water
Salt elemental...
Nature is just Nature
liquid elemental 
(Life arising from the combination of all other elements)
hydrogen elemental
hello everyone
Brimstone Elemental is still completely in line with what she has and it's just a name she was given
Like, it's quite literally just that
Their names aren't a 100% definition of their domain
If the Brimstone Elemental is so hot, why does Yharon have hotter flames?
This is a genuine question though. Is it just a design choice or is something else going on?
Are there any good name giver in calamity lore
Because scal sponge
Design choice, tho Cloudy is infact really chill
Damn it seems like the seeker of knowledges knowledge was off
Epic thank you
That’s why they seek it
Like, she purposefully fucked off for a while since Yharim's army started hunting down Elementals after Azafure was burned
For obvious reasons
Exactly
Brimstone Flames is weaker than Dragonfire.
Brimstone Elemental is a fraud.
Also Anahita's domain being changed kinda ruins the entire reason why I made the slight alterations to Brimmy's and whatnot, like
Well yeah, scal sponge theory
Brim ain’t as strong as when she awoke and fought scal
I worked with Brimstone Elemental, she's a fraud
Is vulnerability hex stronger than dragonfire debuff?
Exposed video
The point is that all four Elementals are based around the four integral elements for advanced life to grow in a planet
No.
Much weaker.
Ans vulnerability hex is brimstone
Earth, Water, Air and Heat
Earth...
These are the four reasons why life is so prevalent in our planet
What so Yharons debuff is stronger than Scals debuff?
The sun?
So if sand elemental is earth
What does the sun give? 
Then whats earth elemental ?
Not an elemental.
That indicates yharons flames are hotter then the person who is known for having the hottest flames
Sun=heat 0.1
Omg
Earth Elemental is almost certainly being renamed
Earth elemental is an automaton
Yes.
Brim should be able to wield primordial light
(Jk)
what if moon lord didn't attack the dragons
Moonlord isn’t Cthulhu
Cthulu is not a thing in Cal lore
oh shi
It is, just means great beast
...
Light?
The eye of Not Cthulhu
DO NOT SAY THIS
lemme just
Moonlord is just alien guy
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
Why
Sun gives heat hell yeah
Huh
it just means big boy I think guys
is dreadnautilus/bm canon?
^
Cthulhu isn't real in Cal, saying it is directly contradicts that
Cthulhu is a word that means Great Beast
uhh
That's what I meant
idk man cthulhu means cthulhu
We love people saying things incorrectly.
would Nergigante from Monster Hunter be a great beast?
Yes, blood moons are just natural events
I said that the creature Cthulhu was not real, not the word
giant beast is giant beast
Yeah that’s the case
Cthululuhu
I know, but the way Melon said made it come off differently

Cantaloupe pistol
i caused calamity just like the mod name :i_feel_so_sigma:
I feel like people shouldn't even talk about very niche and incomplete lore. You can just say "Cthulhu isn't a thing." and leave it at that.
I feel
Same reason why I do not like calling Moon Lord Fovos.
Cthulhu the creature not real
Cthulhu the word means great beast
collosal eye?
Cthulhu isn't a thing. Eye and Brain still have their names, and in their case "Cthulhu" in the Calamity universe is a word that means "Great Beast"
name that makes sence
Maybe the true Cthulhu was the great beasts we made along the way
Barely anyone knows, and introducing it only brings upon confusion as 20 different people try to explain it in different and incorrect ways.
nahhhh
crimson mind/brain of cthulhu
In what cal language does cthulhu mean great beast
What’s with true eye of Cthulhu name then
Draconic.
Dragon
Like what in universe language
Player being shit at naming things 
True!
Fair
That's my explanation for True Eye of Cthulhus
The player just thinking
"I-i-i-it's THE TRUE VERSION!!!!!"
Who wrote the bestiary
"Wow, big eyes."
Omniscient, unbiased narrator.
the player is just the player who's just playing
Yo new player absolute canon just dropped
os
is
guyssssssssssss
terrarians lore is up to you, besides the fact of bad names
I played
Draedon was influenced by this.
you hate demon
actually though
like give full freedom
Is there a player absolute canon?
I influenced Draedon
Not much
Just that we suck at naming and seem good enough to scal
No
thats so worthless
Who is this YOU guy. Everyone keeps sayint they are the Terrarian
I think the Terrarian canonically being awful at naming things is at the very least humorous and something that doesn't really contradict any ideas
imagine not writing char besides bad names
Not the latter
who's the main person writing Draedon stuff in the dev team, cause they may just be the one who truly influenced Draedon
ABSOLUTELY not the latter
truly calamitous lore
Maybe the fact that we wont defeat Xeroc, no amount of headcanon can change that in universe

I’m talking about after the fight and such not before it
very me
Xeroc was influenced by this
I mean after the fight
Draedon*
And by good enough I mean just good enough to not kill
No being who can naturally survive on land can beat Xeroc.
this time it's xeroc
Thankfully, you can make your OC not naturally survive on land.
Whats OC ?
Perhaps, it could even be a squid...
The player ?
Original Character.
no this is a rebecca calamari reference
Yeah but like i mean nothing in game is gonna reflect you defeating Xeroc
What makes you not survive on land ?
Like dor example his dialogue maybe
I very much wish to change so that Cal, after losing to you, just goes away to collect her thoughts. And then if your city isn't shit she comes to live with you
draedon was influenced by her
Damn.
I do hope that ends up being a bit more expressed in game, yeah
Locking Calamitas NPC behind having a good town.
Ah so she goes there if it’s better then cave is what you want got it
I dont think the latter is possible
this makes sense tbh
Don't worry, when I mean "your city isn't shit" I mean like
Pre ascension I think so
What counts as a "good town"
As long as you have fucking 5 NPCs
Because after the fight current scal just seems like buddies with us
And they aren't in the Corruption/Crimson
House in the crags 
Or crags
But muh enchantments 
She should be fine
There is a happiness mechanic for NPCs literally for deciding if your town is good or not.
Oh right
But all the npcs think four people makes city the worst place on earth
No?
It does decrease their happiness
Its around 7 i think, or 8
In that case I'd make so Cal just doesn't move in if the only available house in the Crags
Absolutely not than 4, unless it does by a small ammount because they dont comment on it
Overcrowding isn't a show of bad character
It's a show that you suck at making a city 
Is a joke
Ye
Around 5-6 they still say they are doing normal @split mortar
I remember a guy going off on how the pylon and happiness system was horribly designed in cmt
Oh ok
Never had them commenting about overcrowding
It’s really not imo
Like yeah it kinda sucks for overcrowding but it isn’t all that noticeable for 90% of things
I think that SCal shouldn't move in if
1 - Any NPC has died recently
2 - Someone is living in the Corruption/Crimson
3 - If the only available house is in the Crags
4 - If you have too few NPCs
Pylons only require 2 npcs to be near it, happiness doesnt matter
So, basically
npcs litterally cant live in corruption/crimson
Shouldn't move in if no one is living in the Corruption/Crimson.
Hmm.....
Unless you actively fuck your NPCs
Will her npc dialogues change somewhat btw?
It does iirc, but they need to be like decently miserable for it to not work
Yeah
Yes.
She will still come in
Aren't they being rewritten
Auric Repulser Panels
Not very cool or quaint
If you are being a little bitch and fucking with your NPCs? I think it's perfectly reasonable for SCal to not live with you
based
She can live in that for a good while
You.
I might go out of my way to like
You held me at gun point.
Making Cal actively react if you have shitty houses too, with spikes/lava and whatnot
Infinite torture
Hopefully
Scal should be immune to lava
That'd be fun
Because the dialogues sorta sound like shes buddy buddy with the PC
I think it'd be really interesting to make Calamitas actively react to how you build your house and have her happiness be affected by that as well
I think Cei mentioned she is rewriting them numerous times
Since the old ones were written back before the current lore existed
Will she deeply criticize me if my houses are neatly made shoeboxes with no overcrowd.....
I'd only really add that to Calamitas tho, because she is basically the one character that can actually judge you morally
”Yo Terrarian! I think this 50 meter deep lava hole in my bedroom, is not the greatest design”
If Cal annoys me too much with her criteria she will meet my flymeal a thousand times
Permafrost and amidias?
I think it'd be really funny, but I think it's unreasonably hard to make her check for house shapes
This actually got me
i kinda dont rlly like calling moon lord fovos bc moon lord is known as moon lord by basically everyone except us lore nerds lo
I think Calamitas should Sans Judgement Hall judge you.
lmao
wtf
wtf calamitas is sand
I was joking.
TIME IS A FLAT CIRCLE
We in the lore need chat
"your LOVE is too high, unfortunately for you, im aromantic."
Ok this was hrorible 😭
sobbing
I remember you're calamities...
CALAMITAS IS SANS AGAIN AFTER 6 YEARS
Damn
Sans is ness
Calamitas is sans
Calamitas is ness
Crazy
i remember you're calamities
Haii azzy
Ah shit
Did she use to be sans before?
Sand calamity
Her dialogue was similiar iirc
How many flat circles can be fit here 
DoG was Coldsteel the hedgehog
caramella
once...
Very old Supreme Calamitas used to have unique dialogue based on how many times you died whenever you fought her again, I believe.
Similar to how Sans taunts you when you die to him.
Oh i remember that
And she accuses you of cheating id you killed her in one attempt
Scum
God forbid someone be good at the game.
Old SCal when someone is better than her [she can't take it]
Remember the omegalul item

Inside the chest, there were a multitude of different items such as potions and bombs, but also a magnificent sword glimmering with red light. While she was amazed by the blade’s intricate patterns and the skilled craftsmanship behind it, she never really liked using swords; she always was a little afraid of sharp objects. Nevertheless, she took everything from the chest and turned around to exit the building. As she walked past the window, she saw something in the corner of her eye, grabbing her attention and making her look outside.
Starfuryb
Who is she ?
a misty memory...
draedon was influenced by this
Is cryogen made of ice because of who its meant to keep sealed and I suppose protected? If so, would anyone casting such magic on a different person who uses a different kind of magic create a different type of prison?
I bet she saw a harpy about to decimate her outside the window
What do you mean I can’t force calamitas to live in a shoebox now
I won the fight it is my right ad the victor
It is made of ice to make it look like one of Permafrost's creations.
Yharim is very stupid when regarding magic, and did indeed think Cryogen was a creation of Permafrost's.
Okay… ‘cause I was thinking that you’d be creating something that could contain the magic user and so if someone tried to use a similar magic to seal say Calamitas herself we’d get a structure composed of fire and brimstone. Like a small star
spirit bomb type shi
calamitas was right we are just as bad as yharim
??????
Can someone @ weird
?????
She needs to see this
Man
What have i come back to
cause the entire terrarian is as bad as yharim is something this entire channel has a good deal of history with
so like
it'd be funny
:3
Average Calamitas x Deviantt ship
Wut
gao art
…
What if I just lovingly licked Yharim’s helmet while his Auric Rejection incinerates my flesh

This truly is lore
unknown
0-o
get quoted
good for you man
Someone
Get quoted 1233
Okay anyway, I’m still trying to find out what that spell used to make cryogen was… and what exactly did it do?!
Get sent to quotes
A seal.
Keep Permafrost hidden
Imprison permafrost and look like one of his constructs
minimize your level of brainrot in lore-discussion please
gogmazios ngl
What did Gogmazios do
Could it just be made of anything in theory if you wanted to lock away something else?
Yes.
tar
Okay… do we know if he even was ageing or what was going on with Permafrost when he was sealed? How strong a seal?
permafrost just eternally iced
It does sound like a ridiculously versatile spell to never be mentioned or referenced again
lierally
The seal is roughly a mech boss in strength
Since that’s when we fight cryogen
So stopped even in time? Like if we never broke him out would he just be there forever?!
Don’t think we know if he was aging or not in cryogen
I doubt it stopped his aging
But yeah I doubt he could have broken out
So the flow of time is obeyed… so someone locked away in such a spell who was expecting to be dead soon would still die…
As far as we know
Unless a separate spell could be used to pause the time for the one sealed
Like the power to seal away considerably powerful beings in automated prisons made of any element? How is magic like this not expanded upon
True
We don’t know if he would die soon, perma is older then yharim and in his concept art he looks like 40 to me
Just saying like In general would it save someone in the brink of death or at least stall death
We don’t know
Okay fair
That looks like 60-70ish to me but i get it
Hmm I wonder, if a shard of cryogen still exists, if so it could probably be used for some pretty potent magic..:
Or should I say, why are ALL other elemental spells we see Calamitas use just boil down to "big explosion whoosh"
Her necromancy is versatile, but it seems different from standard elemental magic
Yes though she’s pretty well known for her brimstone magics
Though the sepulcher and that shadow beast in infernum Likly means she can create living forces as well in some respects.
She basically only has like 1 attack for that
Then there’s the basic projectile
And whispering maelstrom
Shadow beast is gruesome eminence, which is polterghast
Also yeah she can create life, or atleast revive it
Not revive.
I’m really starting to come to terms with what it means for her power to be passed along to someone else…
Reviving isn't possible.
Necromancy is the bad replica of yharons rebirth powers
She can do necromancy, which is not revival
Her brothers?
That is necromancy.
How is necromancy not reviving things with questionable results
Actually Cryogen has a soul, so maybe it's a product of necromancy?
But then again Yharim believed Permafrost crafted Cryogen on his own, so does that mean Perma knows how to preform soul-based magic? Can anyone use this magic and Cal is just particularly gifted at it?
Yeah cal is just gifted af
Reviving would mean bringing back someone who is dead back to their body.
Necromancy does not do that.
In calamity necromancy is just bone golems yea
Her brothers have enough of their mind to want to protect her and know basic magic projection
It’s not much but it is kinda there
iirc
What are her robes? I’ve heard they enhance her power idk where I head that tho
To my knowledge they’re just her clothes, probably when she was under yharims “care” she got given a bunch
‘Cause I’ve long connected her magic to her robes I’m not sure why
She didn’t have the robes before she got her powers
All it says is that they still protect her, which is technically true if Calamitas was using their bodies for protection.
Hmmm, though I recall I think at some point I went with the idea of her soul or mind being replicated by the robes giving them her power too… as they have her inside them… idk where that came from ‘cause apparently not Cal lore
Thought it had more, must be going insane oh well
My own stuff don’t worry
Probably maybe old lore or one of the not official wiki
Is Vehemence still canonically Calamtas' wand or nah
Because it's weird how she doesn't use it at all
But still drops it, all while the implications if it being her weapon/catalyst of choice being present
Though it would allow anyone who wields the robes to use her magic
Don’t see why not apart from it being like 39 times the size of her
the reason she got her robes was her powers 
so yeah no
i thought that was only a thing in SBC
I don't remember what SBC is 
Her song
Oh yea
Oh that’s what that is
thats all i can remember from her connection to it
It used to deal a flat 1 million damage didn’t it
Yes
i think so?
Taking the removal of postML stat bloat into account, it was still basically the same as it is rn, but with no charge time, just high use time
And no skull clouds too ig
Nah it used to deal based on enemy life iirc
Also didn’t know at full power it could 8 tap scal
Maybe, I'm not sure tbh
Where would we put aquatic scourge compared to other sulphur sea enemies?
I would put it between mauler and nuclear terror myself
*literally
pls not now
Yeah I think it would be around the T3 minibosses tier
Weaker.
It would probably be able to kill Beelzebufo, have some issues with Mauler, and lose to NT
That's what I think
Same
I think AS would probably wipe the floor with any pre-ML enemies in the Sulphurous Sea
Anything afterwards would probably give it more issues or just outright kill it, like NT and OD
Cragmaw isn't doing much to it, it's just a big amoeba with some abilities
Yeah i agree
Also
I cant wait until is christmas, then i can start saying "those who snows: ⛄️ "
And my teeth will probably grow back till then
i think mauler could be like
a predator
to AS
not really like
maul it
but it'd be a natural predator to it
sometimes it wins, sometimes it loses
as for nuclear terror
I agree, mauler would probably be one of AS's predators
i think that ones just stronger
Nuclear terror could beat most hm bosses i feel
anything up until like
golem
maybe more
maybe now
Literally*
Wonder why things like Nuclear terror and mauler only come to the surface on acid rain events
And not before
Mauler is a sea creature
And there are just more things to eat on the surface during the acid rain
Nuclear Terror seems like the type of animal to prey on literally anything it comes across, except for Old Duke
Feeding frenzy type event i think
Just a fuck ton of stuff at the shores during that time
Maybe nuclear terror gets attracted by the mayhem
Who do other creatures only surface on avid rains? Like the frogs that explode and the flying fish and others
I know that the slimes concentrate in the air and fall down
Some fish seem to gain flight when it rains so sky bombers or whatever may just become a predator during the rain
Acid Rain just makes everything crazier, final answer
Why do you think a giant pterodactyl just shows up out of nowhere [not ingame yet] to throw around things at you? Or how a giant frog just appears to kill you [also not ingame yet] and so on
Ok wait, lore idea
Creatures evolved to all start hunting at the same time during acid rain because the water gets filled with dead and weakened stuff, due to the increased acid levels and runoff from the land burning a bunch of creatures, making them easier prey, and also filling the water with dead microbes and nutrients from land
Even after creatures evolve to resist the acid, the feeding frenzy behavior would be self sustaining as long as the extra nutrients for the bottom of the food chain (runoff) remain
Creatures don't evolve that fast
Wasn't the sulphuric sea already acidic for thousands of years, and just radioactive now? Real life corals are already evolving heat resistance with a bit of help with selective breeding programs
Either way, my argument still works if they're only slightly acid resistant
Azafure is the cause of its acid so not even 2K years
I mean about adapting to hunt suddenly during Acid Rain
Not really
Azafure just massively intensified the process
Interesting
Unless draetalk mentioned it idk if that parts in game that it was getting acidic before azafure
oh, I just assumed acid rain was something that happened occasionally naturally, and that it starting when you kill eye of cthulhu of all things was a weird gameplay thing
oh, I don't mean they become hunters, I mean they're evolved to be dormant until the acid rain starts, then they have a feeding frenzy
real life lake fish often feed during rain
Did the dragons rename themselves upon rebirth?
I ask because that could explain why Yharim and Yharon are named like that
Yharim was named after yharon in lore iirc so I don’t think it would affect their names
...so Yharim was named after the dragon he was assigned to kill from birth?
I think he named himself that after being saved
that could work
iirc this was confirmed at some point
Then I wonder what his previous name was?
We dunno but it would be cool to ponder
This, yeah
My phone case is seeming more edible by the second
Yharim is the man who rose from the lava
Whoever was thrown in it is lost to history
And whoever went in effectively died
Makes sense, he is attuned to rebirth dragon him rebirthing in some form fits even metaphorically
Yharim becomes even more like Darth vader
He even has the cybernetic enhancements
does draedon use apple products?? what personal electronics does he have
I think Draedon would not use it
He would see apple products as worthless trash
He makes all his own devices, and probably has most of his equivalents of personal electronics built into his body
"THEY LOOK SLEEK. THEY LOOK MORE MAJESTIC. THEY SHALL BE STANDARD."
Auric Shellphone when
(Post-Yharim item, allows warping to the Distortion and the Dragon Aerie)
Yharjohn
Yharim renaming himself that is kind of wild though
Yharim was John wulfrum all along
His real name was Billy Bob
Honestly learning the lore the first time I played calamity was so funny
I thought Yharon and Yharim were the same person
He's a rednecj
I thought Yharim turned into a dragon and then just renamed himself Yharon
He needed to be someone less important and influential, so he became yharim
WHAT THE FUCK JOHN WULFRUM, DRAEDON'S UNCLE???!?
no way
When I first read awakening I thought it was from the players perspective…
Can’t wait for the new superboss The Wolf Ram (giant wolf-ram hybrid mech) made out of Wulfrum plated auric
i always thought yharon was named after yharim breh
Tbf I guess yharon is like severely older
Yeah he is chronically old
It’s kind of weird thinking that Yharon is like super old actually
Does not look the part
It has no cure
yea i just thought it was like he changed his name once he joined yharims boys
Yharon
Yharoff
His main power set is experiencing being born so I’m not surprised
Yharon is probably thousands of years old
3rd Auric dragon ever
yharon got creaky knees
??
I was gonna say he probably rebirthed a few times keeping himself young
What's the second one
Death
But no idea if that would make sense
Life,death then rebirth
- Life 2. Death 3. Rebirth 4. Gambling
he have like 2000 years (?
Imo 4 is zeratros
LETS GO
Minimum
4 is probably zeratros yes
I LOVE GAMBLING
yeah
But what if there was yuri on the gambling
She would gamble even more
i should rename myself into honk mimimimimi
Man I’ve been thinking of the theoretical dragon/god of time and I think it just makes more sense that it couldn’t have existed unless their powers are severely nerfed for calamity’s sake
I LOVE YURI!!!!!
p
Dragon of gravity and god of space can probably affect time a bit though not much
#lore-discussion message Look here then
you guys saw the yuri folder already you know my stance on it
i dont think a gravity/space dragon/god would be able to do too much
Would make sense, since they’re directly related
it takes a titanic amount of energy to do anything rlly noticeable
Those being able to affect time requires the existence of the physics of general relativity, and implies things about light as an electromagnetic wave
Space god being stronger then providence, and if Rebecca’s suggestion goes through stronger then night prov
Unholy
What would the dragon be then
I meant Yuri god 
more energy than they'd have even at that level tbh
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