lore-discussion

[sleek halo]

regardless of losing

It just means he can make improvements

[devout grotto]

Same (but replace autistic with ADHD)

[sleek halo]

Just to get everyone under the fun spectrum

Executive Disorder

[spring helm]

Need to come up with an evil god for Yharim to kill during the early days of the crusade

[fading sun]

well let's think what the crimson could have been

blood god of some sort

for corruption idk

god of pestilence or some shit

[devout grotto]

God of diseases or something

[spring helm]

Blood god, ravager’s evil brother

[devout grotto]

Speaking of gods, I finally have an idea for this

Something like a god of the forge

Seisai's main thing is pearls and you can make jewelry out of them

They'd also be quite tech-y considering Japan irl

[pliant ruin]

I mean

crimson and corruption are multiple gods

so while god fo blood and god of pestilence could fit

keep in mind it wasnt just one guy

it was like

hundreds

probably

[fading sun]

doubt it was hundreds

[pliant ruin]

I think there was a dev statement about it but might be a mandela effect

either way it still was like a good few

[untold oracle]

God of thorns

[untold oracle]

I think like maybe a few dozen at max

[indigo glade]

God of Thorns was killed and split in two, which is why thorns appear in both the Crimson and Corruption.

[untold oracle]

Good idea

[spring helm]

Thorns?

[indigo glade]

Thorns of Agony from Hollow Knight.

[hoary berry]

that was one of my favourite charms in my first playthrough

[untold oracle]

Spikes

Thorns as in the spiky things in evil biomes

[frank dune]

alright guys

did yharim send dog?

[proven rivet]

No

Yharim doesn't like DoG (I think)

DoG isn't loyal to Yharim anyways

[pliant ruin]

DoG is just sorta doing his thing

He was allied with yharim

but then yharim left and he probably just went "k lol" and kept doing his thing anyways

[sleek halo]

Yea

I assume the last they met

was the Braelor Statis event

[untold oracle]

Was reading through the changelogs and stumbled upon an auric land mine

would it be hilarious if Yharim has boobytrapped the aerie with them

[frank dune]

that would be yharimous

[sleek halo]

It’s just a landmine stuffed with auric

ok actually something I wonder about

If auric can reject through armor

What if the auric was under a different type of plate

[eager bluff]

it can i think

[sleek halo]

would it still be able to reject?

Like a plate of idk

literally anything else

and then the auric under it

[sleek halo]

it does

So

But also canonically cannot reject u through tools

And probably weapons

Whcih is weird to me but oh shell

[sleek halo]

cause I had goofy idea

[hoary berry]

this gave me an idea but it unfortunately fell apart almost instantly

[mighty zenith]

maybe auric cant pass through isolators like wooden handles

idk

[sleek halo]

Maybe

[mighty zenith]

like actual electricity except much much more potent obv

[sleek halo]

I still think

Or headcanon

how braelor other than raw strength evened out the fight more

Armor weakened the rejection substantially

Brother got armor made out of some type of wood

magical wood

[indigo glade]

True, actually...

[sleek halo]

probably somethjng similarly made to his axe

[indigo glade]

Braelor uses wooden armour and a wooden axe...

[sleek halo]

So it’s insanely powerful

And durable

[indigo glade]

Uelibloom is just dead wood, and that is the only pickaxe that can mine Auric...

[sleek halo]

So real

[pliant ruin]

wood

i love eating wood

[mighty zenith]

i know u do

[sleek halo]

(also means I can actually think of them punching each other)

[mighty zenith]

anyway this is actually a solid theory

[indigo glade]

Why would you eat wood?

That's bad for you.

[pliant ruin]

braelor punching yharim would go hard

[sleek halo]

Ngl I had a funny idea

[mighty zenith]

and it also means wood armor should negate yharim's auric knockback

which would be extremely funny

[sleek halo]

Braelor just absolutely fuckijg shoulder checks yharim

(I still think Yharim would’ve been faster and more agile)

(Just Braelor outdid him in raw strength, but essentially nothing else)

Like I still think if the fight continued as just braelor and Yharim

Braelor would’ve lost

[mighty zenith]

i believe that yharim heavily relied on auric rejection in terms of defense before the fight with braelor

[sleek halo]

Yeah

[mighty zenith]

which is why he was so fucked when that was just
negated entirely

[sleek halo]

But I also imagine he’s extremely adaptable

Like it’d throw him off for a bit

[mighty zenith]

yeah but that first moment couldve cost him his life

[sleek halo]

Well considering they fought to a standstill, I think Yharim had figured it out

[mighty zenith]

so he managed to last long enough that DoG saved him but didnt want to risk it any more and got draedon to improve his armor

since clearly rejection wasnt enough to plow through everything

[sleek halo]

Statis jumping in is what would’ve sealed his fate

like I think Braelor could’ve theoretically won alone but Yharim would majority of the time

over a centuries worth of combat and training

warfare and tactics

[mighty zenith]

the power of gay twinks

[sleek halo]

Braelor is likely not nearly on that level of skill

[deft vessel]

Tbh i really like that the Terrarian final robes( demoshade) and Callies robes are a color swap

[sleek halo]

Then they got sent to purple

Urpl

[mighty zenith]

distortion more like
gay baby jail

[untold oracle]

No limbs?

[sleek halo]

true

But yeah I think Yharim would’ve won if it was just Braelor and him

[indigo glade]

What?

[sleek halo]

majority of the time at least

[untold oracle]

Statis lost his limbs

[dusk laurel]

He only lost 2

[indigo glade]

Oh.

Yes.

[untold oracle]

Still

[sleek halo]

I kinda imagine Yharim went in overconfident as fuck

[dusk laurel]

But he did lose limbs

[untold oracle]

They are in Signus’ collection now

[dusk laurel]

Signus, Limb Collector

[sleek halo]

seems like a Yharim thing to do

[deft vessel]

Stasises quest is to retreve them from Signus

[untold oracle]

Then draedon unintentionally tells the truth and ruins everything for him

[sleek halo]

Well he never said that

He was gonna win

[mighty zenith]

what if you could eat his limbs when you get them back

[sleek halo]

He admitted he was about to die

[mighty zenith]

why did i say that actually

[sleek halo]

Yharim even compares Braelor to himself

and Scal

[deft vessel]

Yea why?

[mighty zenith]

idk im hungry

[hoary berry]

garbo has been infected

[sleek halo]

I still think this fight gave Yharim a deep respect for braelor

[deft vessel]

Then eat (not limbs)

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah true

[mighty zenith]

but why noooot

:(

[sleek halo]

What he didn’t say

is he went to Draedon adter

[untold oracle]

What?

[sleek halo]

Which is tied to a different lie

I don’t think he actually lied about his fight with Braelor and Statis

[mighty zenith]

i very much doubt he'd admit to DoG saving his ass

[sleek halo]

He did

did he not

[mighty zenith]

i mean

if it was a lie

he wouldnt say that as a lie

[sleek halo]

ohh

[mighty zenith]

he already hates DoG so lying about that wouldnt make much sense

[sleek halo]

Yea

I love how he was talking about Signus

thn just goes on about that fight

Bro wanted to tell that story so badly

like nothing even provoked him to do so

[mighty zenith]

tbf he's an old fart

old men love nothing more than telling stories

especially since, in a weird way we're kind of his successor

or at least he sees us as one

[untold oracle]

He should write an autobiography I think

And forces us to read it

[mighty zenith]

thats what the whispers are

[sleek halo]

So true

[mighty zenith]

he's reading us pages of his new book

[hoary berry]

my grandfather stopping to have a thirty minute conversation with everyone he encounters on the street:

[indigo glade]

You kill an eye and Yharim goes on this rant about how gods were evil and the source of all bad in the world.

[eager bluff]

rent free tbh

[random mulch]

made a random weapon

[sleek halo]

looks cool

whip sword?

[spring helm]

wtf that’s a RWBY weapon on god

Hold on

[random mulch]

turns into a whip every third swing

[sleek halo]

that’d be a cool true melee sword tbh

[spring helm]

Orios

[sleek halo]

Goes from sword to what farmers use for crops…

[spring helm]

I see that feather… post-Yharon?

[random mulch]

it's made of auric

[sleek halo]

I’m ngl, I never rly got the idea of a scythe being a weapon used seriously

I mean obviously in history ppl have used them

[eager bluff]

warscythes are a thing yeah

[spring helm]

Looks cool and nothing else

[random mulch]

just kinda looks cool

[scenic olive]

how many things can be Made from auric

[spring helm]

Warscythes look more like naginatas than farming scythes

[sleek halo]

theybare

[eager bluff]

but they're also basically just spears with one sharp edge instead of multiple

[sleek halo]

Yeah

[spring helm]

But they look really cool

[scenic olive]

Also Yharcleaver ahh

[spring helm]

Has that image of the user reaping lives like they were wheat

[eager bluff]

yes that is why the grim REAPER uses a scythe

[spring helm]

🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[untold oracle]

Guys what colours would Chrysadia’s flag/emblem/standard have?

[random mulch]

kinda want to make a post-exos gun based off of either a pulsar or fusion reactor

[untold oracle]

-# it was Chrysadia right?

[eager bluff]

and the grim reaper is a really big inspiration for scythes as they typically are depicted as weapons

[indigo glade]

Reminds me of Renji's Shikai.

[random mulch]

grim reaper having a scythe does make sense
I mean... just look at its name

[eager bluff]

that or kronos

kronos chronos cronos who the fuck knows

[sleek halo]

Yea

[random mulch]

actually kronos used a sickle, basically just a scythe but smaller and 1 handed

[spring helm]

One of this is the titan of harvest, the other the titan of time

[eager bluff]

yeah

[sleek halo]

I think they got

[eager bluff]

(those are the same titan)

[sleek halo]

kinda fused into one

[random mulch]

sickles seem much more convenient

[sleek halo]

Overtime

[spring helm]

They got merged because the names sounded similar I think

[sleek halo]

Imo they’re much cooler

when well done

(death from puss n boots for example)

[eager bluff]

ok well according to wikipedia hes depicted using either a scythe sickle or harpe

[sleek halo]

But yeah I don’t really like scythes as weapons

Especially cause making fights with them seems hard

[eager bluff]

they can go hard

[sleek halo]

Ye

like that rwby design is cool

[eager bluff]

alter ilulu from another eden <3

[sleek halo]

Ngl

I kinda imagine auric being

rather light

idk why

[spring helm]

Cryonic metal is notably light

According to Draedon

[sleek halo]

Like titanium

I imagine Auric is just similar to Titanium

Light, extremely strong, snaps instead of bending

[split mortar]

Pretty sure we do know it snaps instead of bends

[eager bluff]

or mazrika her scythe goes hard as fuck

[sleek halo]

that’s kinda why I imagine Yharims weapon has like

a thin amount of auric

for the blade part

and the rest is a different material

more flexible

[hoary berry]

that scythe is fucking awesome yeah

[indigo glade]

Imagine picking up a piece of ice and thinking "Wow, I should smash this into the ground". You throw it to the ground. The ground breaks. The ice is perfectly fine.

[split mortar]

Pickaxe

[sleek halo]

LOL

[spring helm]

Or you try to break the ice using a pickaxe made of the legendary metal, mythril
And your pickaxe shatters

[sleek halo]

But then again

Idk who would’ve made it

actually the same question about Yharim’s armor

would apply for his weapons if auric

who tf made them

[untold oracle]

Make it like shatter in a really comical way that the metal gets perfectly pulverized and the handle remains completely fine

[eager bluff]

draedon i think

[spring helm]

Secret :3

[sleek halo]

Draedon upgraded

his armor

[untold oracle]

The ”secret :3”

[sleek halo]

Never made any of it

afaik

[eager bluff]

i thought he had done that too

[sleek halo]

And Cei said Yharim wasn’t a smith

[eager bluff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sleek halo]

And Yharon literally doesn’t have hands capable of that stuff

[untold oracle]

I headcanon dragons had their own champions that wore auric armour and Yharim happened to find one of the sets

[indigo glade]

We were told one day "ever wonder why there isn't any Auric before Yharon's death?".

[untold oracle]

Or

Yharon gave him the armour

[sleek halo]

(I still personally think Yharim’s armor is an amalgamation of pieces of armor from dragon monks that were attuned to dragons)

[untold oracle]

Like Yharim would be Yharon’s champion

[eager bluff]

imagine if auric could reject you through tools

[sleek halo]

Well then you can’t hit Yharim

[spring helm]

The gods hid it all

[sleek halo]

You best have a ranged weapon cuz no melee going to work against him

[split mortar]

Tmelee in fucking shambles

[untold oracle]

I assume auric is somehow created after a dragon’s death

[eager bluff]

some rando in a room controlling a drill and he comes across a speck of auric
gets rejected through the controls

[spring helm]

Wasn’t auric forbidden to work with or something

[sleek halo]

or auric ore is tied to the essence of dragons

[untold oracle]

That too

[eager bluff]

auric is stored in the bones

[indigo glade]

Some gods deemed Auric heretical, probably due to its ties to the Dragons.

[untold oracle]

Maybe auric forms the same way evil biomes come from gods?

[sleek halo]

Maybe

[split mortar]

Auric is the power of the dragon going into the world while their soul goes to the aerie idk

[sleek halo]

The fact anyone knew Yharon’s domain is rebirth

likely suggest Dragons did die

before the fovos invasion

[untold oracle]

So after a dragon dies, its essence fades away and turns metald around it into auric

[hoary berry]

i have a headcanon for the formation of auric

[spring helm]

Here I was thinking essence and souls were the same

[sleek halo]

mYb

mayb

they are

idk

[untold oracle]

Maybe because it seems like dragons drop fragments of their souls when they die, so if they die too much, the soul just shrinks into nothingness

[hoary berry]

Auric.

Its power is nigh-unimaginable to the masses—to the insects crawling between the cracks of the rocks beside which draconic energy nests itself and to the intelligent lifeforms drilling through the underground and stalking the haunted surface. This power, however, is from a source most tragic: the death of a Dragon.

Although temporary, such a grand being meeting its demise is a world-shaking event; mountains creak and oceans churn as the radiant essence scatters and sweeps across the globe. It is only when this essence converges and its owner reforms atop the Dragon Aerie that these symptoms may subside—but not all traces recede so quickly.

Auric ore: it governs the caverns as the ultimate material known to the illuminated world. Seeking to explore all corners of the globe before rebirth, some Auric Souls might venture into the depths of the planet, weaving between rock and unwittingly blessing it with hints of the illustrious power of the Dragons—thus transforming mundane matter into the extraordinary.

With this, the rock gains a form of life: a weak, flickering sentience with which it can judge the life forms that might dare to reach for its brilliant power. Hold the vaunted strength of the Dragons and you may reclaim the traces these wandering souls lost; be of a common constitution and crumble before a force you cannot comprehend.

half of it is reused from my previous auric headcanon

i'm not at all satisfied with how i wrote this but i do like the general idea

[untold oracle]

It’s a good idea

[devout grotto]

Yeah

[hoary berry]

i think i'll probably rewrite that and my cosmilite headcanon too

though i already have a lot queued to be written so who knows when i'll get around to that

[spring helm]

Just like the devs fr fr

[random mulch]

imagine if auric just kinda exists, instead of generating after yharon it's just always there

[hoary berry]

that's what i used to think

my previous headcanon was based around that

[indigo glade]

Cei specifically mentioned that is not the case unless the lore states otherwise.

[sleek halo]

I thought about something and

What stops like

[devout grotto]

Mmmm tasty canon divergence

[sleek halo]

anyone who can keep up with DoG

or just get onto him

From following him through his portals

SW did

[devout grotto]

I'll make the vanilla hardmode ores always existent in the world tbh

[sleek halo]

He slipped through lol

[indigo glade]

The fact that the person following DoG wouldn't be able to make their own portals.

[devout grotto]

Hallowed Ore though

[indigo glade]

So they'd just be stuck.

[devout grotto]

It's

On a weird place for me

[sleek halo]

only if you hop off

but like

[indigo glade]

So just... Be on DoG forever? Without him noticing?

[sleek halo]

if you literally just hold on he can’t do much

[devout grotto]

Ig it would always exist like all the other Hardmode ores

[sleek halo]

to get rid of you

[indigo glade]

Imagine if DoG could breath in space.

[sleek halo]

I don’t imagine he needs to breath tbh

[indigo glade]

Well, in that case, if something does get on DoG, then he could just

Go into space.

[sleek halo]

well I do imagine however

that the temperature would greatly affect him

specifically if he wears his armor

but mostly it’s just like

the idea of him trapping someone in the distortion

that’s on par with him

I mean if they can’t fly they’re probably cooked

ok I have something to ask y’all

do you think DoG would be egotistical enough to let someone get ready to fight him

if baited jnto it

Kinda like

Idk TFS Vegeta

the whole

“I know you’re playing me… but you’re right”

[spring helm]

Yes

[hoary berry]

depends how much he knows about the person imo
if it were the terrarian, seeing as he probably knew little to nothing about us, i think he honestly might
but if it were someone equally strong but with a reputation that he knows more about, i don't think he would let his ego get in the way of him that much

might still look down upon them and not go all out from the start, but i don't think he'd just
let them prepare

[sleek halo]

Well I mostly just mean for GoJ

I would imagine he’d let someone he views far weaker

to do something

[spring helm]

Mark does the opposite and says “I’ll let you put your armour on first” and that pisses off DoG so much it tosses Mark into the Distortion

[sleek halo]

Yeah that seems right for someone close to him in power

[spring helm]

Now that I think about it, is DoG aware of what Moon Lord is?

[indigo glade]

Cosmic Worm is craftable Post-Moon Lord. Cosmic Worm's lore tooltip is "The Nameless Serpent has set out for you". This implies that ever since Post-Moon Lord, DoG has been watching the player.

[spring helm]

That could just mean that DoG witnessed the Terrarian battle an exceptionally powerful being though

Does DoG know what Moon Lord is? What it did to the dragons 800 years ago?

[sleek halo]

maybe

I still have my theory that

DoG was made for the gods

posted it a while back

like I think over a year ago

Idk it was old

[spring helm]

Let’s see it

[sleek halo]

old and probably could be improved but

I found it

.

[hoary berry]

custom built vacuum cleaner

[untold oracle]

How much would it cost

Does it go to noxillions

[sleek halo]

The fact that Draedon

suggests DoG is younger

[indigo glade]

No.

[sleek halo]

helps my theory :3

[indigo glade]

It only costs signullions.

[untold oracle]

Damn that’s cheap

[sleek halo]

idk

that’s a lot of limbs

[untold oracle]

True

I think that’s why Yharim was so brutal

He wanted all the limbs so he can afford the new vacuum cleaner

[hoary berry]

just get draedon to grow limbs

in a lab

[untold oracle]

Then after ppl began questioning he began pretending he regrets the purchase

[hoary berry]

industrial limb farm

coming to minecraft redstone in 2027

[untold oracle]

I think Signus has quality control

Only real authentic limbs are approved

[split mortar]

Just grow entire people then

[deft vessel]

And how will Signus achive this

[sleek halo]

Uhh

cause he’s cool

[hoary berry]

who are they decide the authenticity or worth of limbs? just because these ones are lab-grown, it shouldn't detract from their physical value!

[untold oracle]

”Nuh uh”

[spring helm]

Just like diamonds, lab grown limbs are better; Big Limb makes propaganda to control the market

[hoary berry]

okay does anyone here have ideas for the ark half of the AotC line?

[untold oracle]

Signus has stated that what matters is the story within the limbs; the people that held them and how they resorted in accepting the deal, so lab-grown slop limbs would be shunned in their eyes

[hoary berry]

i was talking to popcorn about it but i'm still starved for ideas

[deft vessel]

But where do they get the resources? Magic

[split mortar]

Which half

[hoary berry]

the ark half

so not the biome blade half

[frank dune]

Hello everyone

[split mortar]

Hai

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-discord-meme-halo-master-chief-halo-infinite-gif-24866624

Lets theorise which weapon yharim might use

[deft vessel]

A new one

[untold oracle]

The parrying works because the blade can excellently absorb and amplify the energy from the clash, turning it to magic that can be channeled at command

That’s what I think how it works

[hoary berry]

that's similar to one of the options i had in mind yeah

that the blade syphons power from what it parries and uses it to empower itself temporarily

[untold oracle]

Yea

[frank dune]

You just parry

Shrimple

[hoary berry]

this is pretty baseless, but i want to experiment with the idea of it having a consciousness

of sorts

a weak, primitive one

[deft vessel]

Shock absorption

[hoary berry]

but still present

[untold oracle]

Maybe it has a sense of justice?

Considering if it’s some hero’s blade iirc

Oh yeah it destroys evil

[deft vessel]

It accepts the Terrarian as its new master and with it gains more power

Actually ”lends” would work better

[hoary berry]

it just occurred to me because of ark of the ancients' tooltip
i got to thinking about how it might have broken and become the fractured ark, and i like the idea that it tried abosrbing a power that is beyond it during fovos' invasion
which led to it breaking, but also its absorption to malfunction and take in the surrounding energy, including the soul of its dead, previous wielder

again, this is baseless and nothing at all hints at it

but i like the idea

and i'm writing this for fun, not because i'm trying to genuinely theorise about what its full origins are canonically, so i'm fine with adding in entirely new stuff if i really like it

[spring helm]

My idea was the user overloaded the blade to destroy something really strong

[hoary berry]

OH

i jusr ememebred something that slipped my mind

when we were talking in eggcord

[untold oracle]

What’s eggcord 😭

[split mortar]

Wha

El huevo?

[deft vessel]

I’d like to think that there were a lot of like really strong people like Xeroc pre-ascencion. But that all died during Fovos attack

[spring helm]

Champions of the dragons

Sacrificed their lives to protect their masters

[deft vessel]

This.

[spring helm]

Only to fail in the end

[deft vessel]

I cant write exactly

[hoary berry]

the "previous wielder" would have been a dragon monk, like xeroc
perhaps they were attuned to the dragon of justice, or some similar dragon, which is why they so ardently wished to fight "evil"

[untold oracle]

I think they had auric armour too

And that’s how Yharim got the armour he has

[hoary berry]

and they played a leading role in taking other humans to try to fight back against fovos and they all fucking died

[untold oracle]

Maybe Yharon had it all along and just waited for a worthy champion to muster it

[deft vessel]

Ah… its all coming together

[split mortar]

Ofcourse they all fucking dies it’s fovos

[hoary berry]

mhm

and the "power that is beyond it" would've been an attack from fovos

[spring helm]

I WON’T LET YOU GET AWAY WITH THIS!!!!

Moon Lord’s honest reaction:

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[hoary berry]

though i do like to think that their efforts to parry this attack did save some of their fellow soldiers, if only until the next attack arrived

OH MY GOD

[untold oracle]

Imagine fovos just seeing 50 insects running towards him and he just crushes them all in one shot

[hoary berry]

i thought kana was back for a sec

also that moon lord gif got mentioned in a cal lore video that i was watching

which i found very funny

[untold oracle]

I felt a roller coaster of emotions seeing this

[split mortar]

Wha

[deft vessel]

Wich one?

Must see

[split mortar]

Kana is famous

[spring helm]

The lore vid?

The one DS made right?

[hoary berry]

yeah i commented on it, and the person who posted the video agrees that kana had a big impact on lore chat

[hoary berry]

idk

[deft vessel]

Do you have a link?

[hoary berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jj0X52cEBE

both that and their previous video

i think are quite well made

the first one especially raised an interesting point about planetoids

there are probably a few nitpicks i could make about this one, but for the most part i think it's quite accurate

[untold oracle]

Amazing

[scenic olive]

Ark of the Calamity when

[untold oracle]

Kana has made a lasting impact

[deft vessel]

Truely ”intelectual”

[hoary berry]

i just missed when putting my headphones back on and hit myself in the nose

wonderful

[untold oracle]

Awful

[faint plank]

my evil spell worked

[hoary berry]

gasp

reverie how could you

now i'll need to cast a curse in return

i'm sorry, but you brought this upon yourself

[deft vessel]

Im fighting the urge to say ”calamitous”

[hoary berry]

and you just lost that battle

[deft vessel]

[split mortar]

The curse is 4 hours of college left

[faint plank]

real

[hoary berry]

i get both thursdays and fridays off college :)

[split mortar]

Fuck you time zones

[split mortar]

I get just Thursdays

[faint plank]

i get no free days

[untold oracle]

Hai reverie

[faint plank]

hai

[untold oracle]

I shall curse an unlucky soul with a 4d blanket

[faint plank]

holy shit ty

[indigo glade]

This is like handing me a single line of blanket.

Utterly useless to me.

[untold oracle]

If you are such a mind bogglingly anomalous lifeform, then why do you use such a pitiful and obscure platform like Discord

[indigo glade]

Even a child likes to play outside with ants.

[wheat walrus]

Is that spiderman

[untold oracle]

Do you have like a 16.468e+20g wifi

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[untold oracle]

Damn

[untold oracle]

Yeah it wraps around in the most uncomfortable ways possible

[indigo glade]

My Wi-Fi is so good, I am able to read your messages before they are even sent.

[deft vessel]

What do yall think Xerocs name is, since we know it ends in ”oc”

[untold oracle]

The Rock

[indigo glade]

Dwayne Jonhson is possible.

[cobalt sand]

What is Obama's last name

[hoary berry]

fredrick

[untold oracle]

Who the fuck is last name

[cobalt sand]

Ligma xeroc

[indigo glade]

They don't have one.

[cobalt sand]

Can't relate

[untold oracle]

[hoary berry]

wip fractured ark entry

[solar wharf]

would ark of the ancients

be the final product

and everything after, is an upgrade

[hoary berry]

because i can't be bothered to retype stuff:

ignore tha first point

[solar wharf]

oh

thats sick as shit

[hoary berry]

that was in relation to something else

[latent bolt]

What if the changes to draedon and bosses associated with him in cal master mode and ftw/gfb were made to reflect an alternate scenario of almost everything going right for him

[indigo glade]

Unsouls your Soul Mechs.

[untold oracle]

What if draedon got angy and could only be summoned via sacrifice of blood

[scenic olive]

What if draedon was never built

[indigo glade]

Perhaps he would need some sort of Sample of Blood...

[scenic olive]

Now we have Draedalus

the creator of Draedon

[latent bolt]

only the destroyer contains souls

[untold oracle]

Truly, an evocation

[scenic olive]

Aged man older than Yharim

[cobalt sand]

John wulfrum, draedon's creator

Make it happen

Draedalus Wulfrum...

[untold oracle]

Landing on the ground of the island, Léa noticed that the soil was a lot softer and lighter than on the surface, her boots leaving visible footprints wherever she stepped. However, the seeking mechanism kept on moving further upon activation, but she decided to investigate the building regardless. Stepping inside, she could smell a pleasant yet damp scent lingering in the air, tiny particles of dust glistening in the rays of sunlight peeking inside from the gilded windows. The room was completely devoid of any furniture, except for a single chest residing in the middle of the plate-covered floor.
Some paragraph of a sky island I wrote

[latent bolt]

The twins use energy harvested from other alien realms to the Distortion
Skeletron Prime uses energy harvested from celestial bodies and phenomena, modeled after the scrapped Alpha and Omega

[hoary berry]

🌟

[untold oracle]

The chest has a starfury which she won’t use lmao

[hoary berry]

AIDO 🐜

[ionic harness]

Sword

*sword

Goose🍊

[untold oracle]

Haido

[ionic harness]

HDeltas

[hoary berry]

🍊

[latent bolt]

should someone make GFB lore

[ionic harness]

It’s like

Yk

[untold oracle]

Would be cool if we got context on an alt timeline where shit got that fucked up

[ionic harness]

A world where everyone decided to be goofy

[hoary berry]

just a lil silly :3

[cobalt sand]

That would make Cirrus canon in said story, so no one will

[latent bolt]

draedon is the most happy in such a timeline

[latent bolt]

that is the one exception

[faint plank]

cutely commiting enviromental terrorism

[indigo glade]

"Teehee, I just did a liwwle accident :3"

[latent bolt]

fovos destroyed the surface

[cobalt sand]

cutely unleashes the plague

"haha sorggy"

[untold oracle]

Oopsie daisy 🤭

[hoary berry]

that has the same vibes as the Ring a Ring o Roses nursery rhyme

just a little silly plague that kileld millions is all :3

[faint plank]

millions were plagued and withered away :3

[scenic olive]

goosword

goose

word

[hoary berry]

goose????????

🪿

[deft vessel]

Is this a pHGoose🎇 reference🤔

[faint plank]

why he 💥

[hoary berry]

super duper WIP entry for galaxia ( i might entirely rewrite this because i dislike it)

[frozen zodiac]

i dislike galaxia in general because melee gets so much shit compared to every other class :)

[indigo glade]

I'd like to show you this.
#suggestions-discussion message

Just a thought I had once.

[hoary berry]

yeah that's an idea i already had

[indigo glade]

Oh, okay.

:(

[hoary berry]

it's been thrown around a bit in the past in this channel iirc

i was lurking for that conversation though

it might've been your message that reminded me of it

the "Overseer's gaze" thing is actually related to that

initially, the attunement failed, because the blade rejected the foreign essence of the distortion (just realised that sounds xenophobic)
but noxus took notice, and saw a potential outcome that could be of benefit to it
so it focused its "gaze" upon the blade, suppressing its rejection of the distortion's essence and allowing the attunement process to be completed

[indigo glade]

God, I hate it when my magical sword rejects another dimension's essence.

[hoary berry]

common issue ik

luckily noxus is here to offer us a solution, at a good price too!

[spring helm]

How nice of it

I’m sure there were no ulterior motives

[hoary berry]

surely not

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-nokotan-my-deer-friend-nokotan-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-gif-9850497477868508242

hello everyone

[split mortar]

Hai

[sage berry]

Ahhhh, how is everyone, I am not here often still but I’m here anyway.

[split mortar]

I’m doing fine

Excited for tomorrow

Sure alexey is

[sage berry]

Oh? What’s tomorrow?

Am I missing something

[split mortar]

More online multiplayer modded terraria with alexey, saber,storm weaver and reverie gets to join

Plus friend coming over to my house later in the day which is great

[sage berry]

Oh interesting, are you the one hosting this modded multiplayer? And friends are always nice

[split mortar]

Also xeroc concept art

[sage berry]

Oooo

[split mortar]

Alexey is hosting

[frank dune]

Hey there

[sage berry]

Hey

[frank dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874125680420470814/1293035639469510687/attachment-14.gif

[split mortar]

Idk if you saw it but here is Ravager stuff aswell (phase 1 the alter form)

[frank dune]

What the

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-v1-thumbs-up-thumbsup-funny-gif-9560067552549211441

Phew nvm

[sage berry]

Oh yeah I saw the ravager stuff

[frank dune]

Flesh mimic

Spider mimic?

[split mortar]

Some lore on the god ascension ritual (not new just not talked much)

[sage berry]

I’ve been wanting to play more tmodloader, but I haven’t had any friends free who could join for long… and I don’t stay long without anyone else

[frank dune]

So bro was like

Man ima make ritual

Makes ritual

[sage berry]

How does one make new ritual for godhood?!

[split mortar]

We don’t know, xeroc just that smart

[sage berry]

Okay

[magic epoch]

Xeroc lmk how to god 🤙

[sage berry]

I was quite excited for today as it’s Friday, third week I’ve put something out for AO3 consistently… most of mine is still completely and utterly 18+ content but the one that isn’t… actually gets regular updates, or I’ve kept it up so far…

[split mortar]

Goose told Tod to unclog god

[pliant ruin]

bald

[sage berry]

I haven’t see that before

[split mortar]

Crab lore

[pliant ruin]

wtf crob

i didnt see this

[split mortar]

L

[pliant ruin]

Oh these guys arent native to illmeris

interesting

They also seem to be sapient which i assumed was the case but its nice to get ocnfirmation

[split mortar]

Also exo prisms derive power from vetrasyl

Or something like it

[sage berry]

From what?

[split mortar]

Vetrasyl

Dragon of storms

[sage berry]

Oh, okay, shows how out of the loop I am

[split mortar]

Otonilou absorbed them to be goddess of electricity

[pliant ruin]

I figured they had something to do with Otonilou/Vetrasyl

Given

yknow

electricity

[split mortar]

Yeah

^

[sage berry]

Unlimited energy

[split mortar]

Yes

Some eoc stuff from heart

[dusk laurel]

Why here

[pliant ruin]

#calamity-addon-talk smh,,

[split mortar]

Can the image fucking load

[sage berry]

?

[split mortar]

Acid rain changes and sso weapon changes

[dusk laurel]

I'll be honest, even though the sprite quality is better than current ctp EoC and the tendrils are longer, I like the ctp one more overall

[split mortar]

Sso weapon changes was taking ages to load

[sage berry]

Oh okay

[pliant ruin]

do we even know if aqua urchin is gonna stay

[split mortar]

Ask orios they made the chart iirc

[dusk laurel]

Triangle hasn't said anything about it tmk

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-review-kitty-review-cat-kitty-kitten-review-gif-25254242

[drifting nexus]

there is another way for create fish finder in game ?
cuz angler quests are so long

[indigo glade]

This is Lore Discussion.

[pliant ruin]

why did this you spam this question in like every channel sob

[drifting nexus]

sorry

[pliant ruin]

its ok

[wheat walrus]

Miau

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/when-you-at-the-when-he-gif-25019676

[brave dew]

One piece...

[stuck shore]

This aged poorly

[spring helm]

Lmao

Stip refutes it immediately

It didn’t even last the day

[hushed geyser]

THE ONE PIECE

[brave dew]

THHHEEE ONE PIECEEE ISS REAAAAAL !!!!!!

[hushed geyser]

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-be-blunt-with-you-blunt-gif-17728238619641319735

[spring helm]

where are the T6 weapons

Draedon don't gatekeep come one

[dusk laurel]

There won't be T6 arsenal armor
Unless you count the exo armor as the 6th tier of arsenal

So I guess it makes sense

[indigo glade]

I believe Draedon is talking about his favourite childs, the Exo Mechs.

[spring helm]

that makes sense

[indigo glade]

Especially with the addendum he adds at the end.

[spring helm]

the T4 stuff was the strongest gear that he provided to Yharim's army

that means the godseeker knights could be on par with post-moon lord terrarian

that's kinda nuts

These were also the guys whose souls were put into the mech trio i think

[indigo glade]

If they are also using Tier 3 Arsenal armour, it would mean they are on par with a Post-Providence Terrarian.

[spring helm]

you can see why Yharim wanted Draedon around, if he could mass produce weapons that put his soldiers on par with gods

[real silo]

Exo mech drops

clearly

[indigo glade]

True.

[spring helm]

that does work

Draedon figured out how to attack from different timelines????

[dusk laurel]

[spring helm]

canon?

[dusk laurel]

Holy crud

Brimmy is cal's brain confirmed????

also the calamitas looks like she needs to eat

[indigo glade]

She needs deer crackers to develop her non-existant brain...

💔

[dusk laurel]

😨

[spring helm]

Fovos was Joyboy

i won't elaborate

[ionic harness]

Aido

[pliant ruin]

Aido 🐜

[dusk laurel]

Aido 🐜

[eager bluff]

Aido 🐜

[spring helm]

Aido

[frozen zodiac]

would braelor hate ant eaters or understand its part of the cycle of life or the food chain

[sinful adder]

The latter

[cosmic zenith]

^

[spring helm]

Is that indirect confirmation that Braelor likes ants?

@ionic harness

[delicate nymph]

i read half the lore document just now and I gotta say its pretty good

[dusk laurel]

What do you think of Yharim's cause

[ionic harness]

I mean

I’d say it is

Braelor likes ants

[delicate nymph]

his cause seems just in its concept but much like historical conquerers his methods were corrupted and vile

[ionic harness]

That’s just how it is

[dusk laurel]

Yeah, let's just say there were some dead people, just a slight amount

[delicate nymph]

"I organized them into shock troops, dreaded for their flamethrowers and incendiaries.
Leveling places of worship and torching those falsely devout, their expertise lay in unmaking faith with flame."

mhm

there was a small seemingly-contradiction somewhere but I forgot where it was

ah here

"The ritual condemned and fused the bodies and souls of their fallen allies into this hideous thing. When the warlocks pledged their very lives to it as an offering, it awoke and effortlessly massacred them." vs "The mangled reincarnation of the God of Sacrifices, given life once more." for the creation of the ravager. its not directly contradictory but it doesnt describe the events in the same way and it doesn't make a lot of sense to describe it as having been formed by the bodies of fallen allies vs the body of the god of sacrifices. To me, at least.

[sinful adder]

Dude his cause isn't even just in concept, he's just really good at manipulating you

Also yeah, yharim does just lie sometimes

[delicate nymph]

draedons reports of it seem pretty unbiased

[sinful adder]

Draedon is unbiased, yes

The bestiary entries are an all knowing and unbiased entity

The lore items are yharim

Anyways, yharim didn't just hunt gods. His main thing, really, was killing everyone who was associated with any god.

[delicate nymph]

yeah

thats the method

[sinful adder]

That ended up being hundreds of millions of people

That's not a method. That's a cause

[delicate nymph]

i think hundreds of millions is a reach the terrarian continent and world isnt that developed

[sinful adder]

Only like a handful of the gods were even evil

Oh, it was, it just isn't anymore because he killed everyone

A lot of this information isn't in game yet

[delicate nymph]

no, it wasnt, based on the reports of technology at the time by draedon and the living npcs in game who were alive during crusade

[sinful adder]

Huh?

No, it is, as confirmed by developers, there's just a lot of information missing

[delicate nymph]

population boom to the levels of hundreds of millions to billions in the relatively small world of terraria compared to earth is unlikely

[sinful adder]

It isn't relatively small. That's just the gameplay. It's normal continent sized in lore

There were around a billion people on terraria

[dusk laurel]

Yeah we only play on one continent, but that isn't mentioned in the doc afaik

[delicate nymph]

it is

draedon mentions other continents existing

[dusk laurel]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one

[sinful adder]

There was nothing good about yharim after like the first few years of his crusade where he killed the gods oppressing Azafure

Basically everyone he killed was innocent, the people who deserved it were a tiny fraction numbering in the hundreds

We don't see this in game, because almost everyone is dead

[delicate nymph]

i agree with that but that doesnt mean his justification isnt fine by itself if all he had done was kill those gods. Though consideration is to be had if they should be held responsible for those actions after so long if it may damage the natural structure of the world

[sinful adder]

Let me put it this way: every single zombie and skeleton was someone his crusade killed. They don't keep coming back, they just come back once, and there were that many of them

[delicate nymph]

that kinda contradicts the reports of the blood moon in lore

[sinful adder]

Oh, then sure, but that's so far from what he actually did that it really doesn't matter

[delicate nymph]

yeah he sucks

[sinful adder]

Blood moon lore is weird and might be changed from what I understand.

[delicate nymph]

if its changed thats cool but currently it claims that even when yharim was a child/teen before crusades and his destiny stuff, hords of undead would still swarm during blood moons and he would go out killing a ton of them for fun

and given that it also says the civilizations were largely unaffected by this it doesnt make a lot of sense for there to be a steady supply of probably hundreds of thousands or millions of undead regularly

[sinful adder]

That would still work if every person that dies of things like old age came back once

Or if the blood moon specifically makes different monsters and the other kinds of undead are different

[delicate nymph]

even at a population of a billion blood moons at that scale dont really check out from natural cause deaths coming back once idk

i get what you're saying but dont really agree about the undead just coming back once thing

[sinful adder]

It is confirmed that at least normal undead are only coming back once

Through Calamitas dialog, not sure if it's released yet

[pliant ruin]

The lore explanation for it is that it just dosen't really seem that believable ingame because terraria is terraria

Honestly i don't think any explanations for undead would make full sense so i can't really blame anyone for this one

[cosmic zenith]

1. Yharim could be lying
2. Yharim could have incomplete knowledge and be misinterpreting the situation
3. Yharim could be right, that the bodies of the "fallen allies" merged with the God of Sacrifices' corpse to create Ravager

[spring helm]

the very hard to grasp concept of
"sometimes people are just wrong/misinformed"

[pliant ruin]

Guys

why did nobbody point out

how gods aren't inherently evil

and how plenty of the gods yharim killed were actually like fully benevolent

[delicate nymph]

yeah silva seemed unnecessary

[pliant ruin]

most of the gods we know he killed were benevolent

in fact

the only god (not counting corruption/crimson) we canonically know with certain is a Evil Bastard is Providence

all the others lie within something of benevolence, neutrality or questionable due to lack of information

[spring helm]

he is righteous

not propaganda btw i was there

[pliant ruin]

i am the righteous hand of the f- i mean zeratros

[solar wharf]

Even his plan at concept isn't good, if we assumed he stayed strict to it, he wanted all gods gone, including good gods that helped humanity flourish, his justification infsct isn't even about them being evil but about yharon and dragons biased + just the concept of basic generalization "these gods wanted me gone, then the rest must bad"

[spring helm]

it's just vengeance

there's no deeper meaning behind it

[delicate nymph]

I mean we KNOW the part about him being sentenced to death for refusing to consume the soul of a dragon egg is true

[pliant ruin]

yeah it really is just vengeance that he convinced others (and himself) was just

[pliant ruin]

yeah

but like

[delicate nymph]

which is rather messed up

[pliant ruin]

if a dog bites you

does that suddenly mean every dog in the planet wants to bite you

[solar wharf]

That has nothing to do with every god, I can't commit genocide on a species because a group of them fucked me up

[pliant ruin]

yeah exactly

[delicate nymph]

this was a conglomerate of a lot of dogs wasnt it, that sentenced him to death

[pliant ruin]

no it was more like

5 dogs

out of like idk how many gods exist

[solar wharf]

It was just a group of gods

[pliant ruin]

i mean dogs

dogs not gods

[solar wharf]

It wasn't the entirety of its council

[pliant ruin]

gods aren't

a group

[solar wharf]

^

[pliant ruin]

they don't work in tangent with eachother

1 god can be completely evil and fucked up

[solar wharf]

They are more like nations no?

[pliant ruin]

another can be a literal saint

yeah

[solar wharf]

They have their people and they rule over them

Some help them flourish

[pliant ruin]

the others

[solar wharf]

Others are dictators

[pliant ruin]

[delicate nymph]

im operating from halving read like 1/3 of the lore so I believe you but thats some perspective on where im coming from

where can I find lore not in the document

[pliant ruin]

it's less so lore not in the document and more so about the fact yharim is just lying to you 90% of the time

[solar wharf]

You kinda just ask here

[pliant ruin]

but ig there's like

dev statements?

but yeah i dont blame you given yharim is one of the amazing like 3 total large-scale sources of lore in the game but do keep in mind chances are if hes telling you smth regarding morality or gods or dragons hes lying to you

hes a gatekeep gaslight girlbosser

the entire point of his whispers are to gaslight the terrarian

[solar wharf]

Plus, it's just yhsrim wanting to avenge dragons moreso than justice, because yharon kept feeding him that idea that dragons were cool chill dudes that did nothing wrong til evil humans killed them all , ignoring the idea that some gods could have gotten it via consent, or killed evil dragons in the defense of their nation as we know is the case with providence

Yharon*

[pliant ruin]

Ironic that provi killed a evil dragon and became like

the most evil motherfucker ever

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[pliant ruin]

like girl you were supposed to make things better by killing mr evil dragon of flame

not worse

[solar wharf]

I just woke up and managed to somehow call yharim yharon, and dragons gods

[pliant ruin]

goog job

youve did it ⭐

[spring helm]

We love evil women

I wonder if there was a god of cats

[pliant ruin]

me

[solar wharf]

I mean, her fury could've been the start of it

She seemed really angry

[pliant ruin]

i dojnt think provi was awlays eivl

evil

i think she probably wnet a little crazy after the horrors

[solar wharf]

Do you think God of sacrifice killed the death dragon righteously or nah

[delicate nymph]

god of sacrifice didnt give vibes of positive action based off the ideas of their followers ngl

[sinful adder]

no

[solar wharf]

The concept of society runs on sacrifice, it isn't inherently evil

[delicate nymph]

they created a physical amalgamation of corpses for the sole purpose of destruction of those threatening them

[visual kiln]

u sacrifice ur free time when u have a kid

[solar wharf]

That wasn't thr intention

They wanted their God back

[pliant ruin]

The ideas of their followers of sacrificing themselves to give one last attempt at saving their people

[solar wharf]

Fucked it all up

[pliant ruin]

That can

easily be interpreted as heroic, if anything

[solar wharf]

And he turned out like this

[delicate nymph]

the corpse amalgamation part seemed pretty much part of it

[solar wharf]

No?

It was a failure

Necromancy is confirmed to be as messy as radiation

[delicate nymph]

how I read it was that controlling it after was the failure part

not the structure of the revival itself

[pliant ruin]

It was an attempt at bringing their god back, perhaps they thought due to his nature as god of sacrifices it would've been different from the usual necromancy

But it very clearly uh

didn't turn that way

[sinful adder]

is this strictly true? Maybe for a certain concept of sacrifice

[pliant ruin]

It would be significantly more interesting if the god of sacrifices wasn't a bad guy imo

[sinful adder]

but you usually get way more back than you give up in a society

[pliant ruin]

him being a evil grr gie your firstborn to me god

[solar wharf]

Sacrifice by definition is literally in our every day life

[pliant ruin]

is sort of the expected

[solar wharf]

Sacrificing is just trading but sounds a lot meaner

[sinful adder]

is any trade a sacrifice

[pliant ruin]

and its frankly not that interesting at a base level, although ofc as with any writing concept it can be made interesting

[sinful adder]

oh, then sure

[pliant ruin]

but like

the god of sacrifices being a good guy

is not expected

and can be insanely cool

[delicate nymph]

this is definitionally false though

[pliant ruin]

By definition not really

You're sacrificing something to get something else in return

[visual kiln]

p

[pliant ruin]

Though i don't think the god of sacrifices was much of a trader since that'd be making the definition really broad but still the point is

[sinful adder]

is it possible that he was wrong to kill the dragon of death but did good with the power he got after?

[pliant ruin]

sacrifice is alot more than just Kill Your Firstborn

[pliant ruin]

This would be

really cool

unexplored territory

[visual kiln]

what if calamity lore

[sinful adder]

that is kinda just how humans are very often

[pliant ruin]

what if i BITE you

[visual kiln]

i would die

[pliant ruin]

wait

no

sad

:(

[solar wharf]

Pick your poison

[visual kiln]

wtf

[pliant ruin]

can i revive you plz

[delicate nymph]

the first 2 both are directly definitionally NOT what trade is in human society

[pliant ruin]

that's

quite literally what it is

you're giving up something

for something else

[sinful adder]

I would like to point out that dictionaries are BS

[pliant ruin]

that's literally what trading is...

but anyways

[delicate nymph]

you arent giving something up for something you gain, you give something up for a cause

[solar wharf]

They all fit a general meaning, something can be both called a trade and a sacrifice st the same time, the point is that it isn't inherently evil

[pliant ruin]

imagine if god of sacrifices wasn't sacrifice as in GIVE ME BLOOD GIVE ME DEATH but more so the paragon of an almost idealistic monk-ish ideology of sacrificing the unimportant things in life for the sake of what truly matters

[sinful adder]

it is technically true that one of the definitions of sacrifice is the same as trade, but sacrifice includes cases where the trade is not equal

whereas trade implies mutual benefit

[solar wharf]

The first literally says something, not cause

[sinful adder]

sacrifice does not

[solar wharf]

Only one makes that clzkm

Claim*

[delicate nymph]

uh eyah it says you give SOMETHING up to a deity

[pliant ruin]

that is

[delicate nymph]

in that one you dont get ANYTHING in return

[pliant ruin]

not the definition

we're talkinga bout

[solar wharf]

As I said, pick your poison but the point is it isn't inherently evil

[delicate nymph]

yeah but he brought it up

i wasnt really concerned about that one

cause its religious

[solar wharf]

The first one isn't religious?

[delicate nymph]

oh man discord displays

the first one i can see is the second one and the second one i can see is the 4th one

[pliant ruin]

mfw,,

[delicate nymph]

I see confusion

[solar wharf]

Sacrifice can be used in many ways

One of them is that similar to trading

This isn't even the point either also

The point Is that it isn't inherently evil

[sinful adder]

makes sense

[solar wharf]

So to say just because he's a God of sacrifice it makes him bad doesn't make sense

[pliant ruin]

ye

Maybe if he was like

the god of killing babies

like sure

[solar wharf]

I CANT

[pliant ruin]

i can see that guy being a littleee evil yknow

[solar wharf]

What if those babies had like, a really bad vibe about them man

[visual kiln]

im the god of killing babies

[pliant ruin]

nuh uh

you're azzy

[visual kiln]

wtf

why and how

[pliant ruin]

1. username Azzy the Deus Lover

2. 

[visual kiln]

wtf

[delicate nymph]

in the way its used by the the god of sacrifices followers, at least in the creation of the ravager, its definitely evil, which leads me to believe the god did not do its due diligence warding away from evil sacrifice practices

well maybe not "evil" but definitely bad

[solar wharf]

All we know of that intention is that they wanted him back, not to rampage

[delicate nymph]

evil implies 0 positive intention

[sinful adder]

I imagine the god of sacrifices was all about blood sacrifices and such, but was very fair. He used those blood and soul sacrifices because they gave the power to do the things his worshipers wanted

[delicate nymph]

and they may have had SOME positive intention

[solar wharf]

Didn't it even use failure? I don't remember the log

[pliant ruin]

this would also

be cool..

[pliant ruin]

Again

It could be easily interpreted as heroic

How many stories have you seen where a hero sacrifices themselves to give their allies one last chance at victory?

[solar wharf]

Are you reading yharims log?

Obviously he'd make it seem that way

He fucking hates Gods

[delicate nymph]

ive read the yharim logs and draedon logs and some other lore

[solar wharf]

They didn't want rampage neither control

They just wanted him back

Yharim made it seem that way to support his belief