lore-discussion

[split mortar]

Cthulhu means great beast in calamity

[mystic violet]

what is the strongest boss in calamity lore?

[split mortar]

The ones we can fight in game is primordial wyrm

[real silo]

Yea I'm really proud of that

Funny roomts

[mystic violet]

Primordial cthulhu?

[real silo]

Also perennial bark is the replacement of perennial bars since I heard that's what they're replacing it with

[split mortar]

Primordial wyrm, the guy who attacks when you teleport in the abyss

Also known as jared

[real silo]

I imagined it as being a material that can manipulate mana in living things (because goddess of Life stuff)

[hoary berry]

i sort of imagine perennial to help physically hold miracle matter together
like roots of a tree binding soil

[mystic violet]

a

[real silo]

I would like to reference risk of rain 2 lore with MM

Something something blood soul mass and design

[spring helm]

Holy shit is that a risk of rain reference

[hoary berry]

i haven't seen any ror2 gameplay

idk what it even is

[real silo]

it's fun

[split mortar]

Yes that thing is canonically stringer then scal or exo mechs

[real silo]

Mithrix is a dude who creates shit by using these four

Blood is living flesh soul is soul mass is just Stuff and design is how you shape the Stuff

I really like the concept

[split mortar]

How come mithrix is the king of nothing then or something

[real silo]

He doesn't care about his constructs or smth idk

The shit he cares about are on the planet

including his brother and the planet itself

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[real silo]

poor bro got locked on a white rock

He's understandably pissed

Only halfway done with the first half of this and I've already written so much 💔

First half will be explaining the materials and second half will be about how it works as a cohesive whole

[hoary berry]

i wonder how long it would take for the very end of dog's body to react to a signal from his brain

or if he functions entirely separately from a nervous system

via magic shenanigans

[untold oracle]

Imagine he actually has like a 2 second delay but has learned to deal with it

Or more even

[real silo]

He just has two brains

one in the tail and one in the head

[split mortar]

The real reason his tail has less damage reduction

[untold oracle]

That could work with the hivemind

[worthy sierra]

what happens to polters souls after you kill it

its a feral amalgamation

[real silo]

goes into sulphur sea

[split mortar]

They piss off the sulphur sea

Then if you exhume the polter drop

Scal sucks in those souls into gruesome eminence

[dusk laurel]

Brimstone vacuum

[untold oracle]

They scatter around the world

[split mortar]

After being told to exhume the polter item scal goes on a Luigi’s mansion type journey to get them all

[hoary berry]

Moving on, I swiftly activated the lab’s resident ‘main’ body—which had remained undamaged by the serpent’s rampage thanks to its fortunate position deeper within the mountain—and left through the shattered glass ceiling to greet my visitor face to face. I could see his eyes narrow and long body tense as I approached, before almost instantly relaxing all at once, seemingly after he realised I was not a regular drone. This was when I first realised how truly intriguing his biology was: electric signals travelling that fast is beyond what I had—and to this day, have—seen in any other living organism. Clearly, another form of intrabody communication was at play.
draedon's response was to not care about the destruction because dog's biology is funky like that

[worthy sierra]

honestly the only thing i can say about the fall of azafure is that it was such a stained, brutal calamity

[untold oracle]

Is killing polter righteous in more than just self-defence

Do you end the souls’ suffering

Or do they just go suffer elsewhere

[worthy sierra]

and entering it is like a step below hell

[hoary berry]

my main OC makes the effort to free polter's souls from the gruesome eminence

[worthy sierra]

:trollface:

[split mortar]

Kinda just suffer elswhere since there’s enough to form gruesome eminence

[hoary berry]

and let them have the release that has evaded them in their years of relentless torture (how i envision the polterghast's existence to be like)

[worthy sierra]

bros amalgamation finally got destroyed and the first thing they did was suffer instead of seek peace

what even did the souls come from in new lore

god worshippers?

[split mortar]

Well, they could prob leave polterghast amalgam if they wanted

[hoary berry]

the prisoners of the dungeon and their jailors

[worthy sierra]

but what are the prisoners

[split mortar]

Prisoners of war

So strong god worshippers and guys with insider info

[hoary berry]

also anyone who dares to brave the dungeon

[split mortar]

Most do not last

[frank dune]

dungeon fortress 2

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-chat-team-fortress2-demoman-expiration-date-gif-21883506

[worthy sierra]

so if the terrarian died after skeletron he wouldve become part of polter?

[split mortar]

Uh yeah if your headcanon allows it

[frank dune]

all lore isnt real

its all in ur heads

[split mortar]

You are not real

[hoary berry]

turning the entire fucking polterghast into an oc would be kind of awesome

[split mortar]

You’re in my phone

[dusk laurel]

^^^^^^^

[frank dune]

i am real

: (((((

[split mortar]

Nuh uh

[hoary berry]

i do have an old oc that is similar, just not on the same scale as polty

[frank dune]

i am

[worthy sierra]

polter is the 2891218913 deaths i had while trying to get golden keys and tally counters

[split mortar]

Pfft

[frank dune]

thats 100% skill issue

it took me only 20 tries

[hoary berry]

forsaken archive having a guaranteed shadow key and tally counter is awesome

[untold oracle]

gi-

[worthy sierra]

oh yeah that

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-minos-prime-death-gif-5432752624659374066

[untold oracle]

I’ll stop

[worthy sierra]

the deaths i had while trying to find the forsaken archive (i didnt know the tunnel wasnt a pitfall and was actually the entrance)

[hoary berry]

makes breaking into the dungeon earlier for a shadow key a lot easier

[worthy sierra]

so i left it unexplored :ahhhh:

[worthy sierra]

DG?

[hoary berry]

you can get past the dungeon guardian with some luck and positioning

usually takes a fair few deaths though

if you get lucky a cavern enemy can gives you i-frames as you dig down through dungeon bricks and make you entirely immune to the DGs

doesn't work for the open area of the archive once you reach there though

unless you get super duper lucky with a cave bat

[worthy sierra]

oh wait you dont need shadow keu for abyss anymore right

unfortunate

[latent bolt]

if profaned soul crystal is canon, it is basically just providence turned into potato GladOS

[dusk laurel]

What does this mean

[spring helm]

Take out the crystal

Put into potato

“How are you doing. Because I’m a potato.”
slow clap
“Oh good that still works.”

[real silo]

calglados

[dusk laurel]

[latent bolt]

calglad???

[spring helm]

Honestly I should make my Terrarian do that

Would be hilarious

Potato Providence vs Jar’d Yharim

[real silo]

jarim...

but I barely know im

[hoary berry]

my inspiration is dead so it ends here for today

[latent bolt]

draedon but his AI was installed into a fucking androomba

[worthy sierra]

peak draedon

[untold oracle]

So will you make jar yharim

Would be perfect

[spring helm]

Androomba approaches Terrarian
“Due to you destroying all the scout droids I send, this is all I have left as a means to communicate with you. I have installed a microphone and speaker into this androomba so that we may communicate proper-
Put the droid down right this instance my AI is also in it. I am not piloting this androomba remotely I am in it let go”

[hoary berry]

idr even remember who made this

orios?

[spring helm]

Popcorn person

[hoary berry]

why were you saying earlier that you would make jar yharim
if you had already made him months earlier

[spring helm]

Orios would do a better job through

[spring helm]

I mean write it into my fanfic

[hoary berry]

oh

that makes sense then

[spring helm]

“Mark what’s up with that jar did you get another elemental-
IS THAT THE GODSEEKER?!!?!”
-every town NPC

[dusk laurel]

What a Calamity

[untold oracle]

Pet draedroomba

[latent bolt]

me after i defeat yharim in 2030

[pale osprey]

jarim

[untold oracle]

Yhar in the jar

[sleek halo]

Idk whether to make my story

[split mortar]

Do it if you want

[sleek halo]

from a first person or third erson perspective

the first person would be from Yharim’s point of view

[hoary berry]

i've sort of fallen in love with second person recently

though it's not applicable everywhere

[sleek halo]

well this is for my

funny god of justice story

[hoary berry]

yeah ik i was just saying i quite like it

i think, between first and third person, i usually go for third
and if i go for first it's with formal or posh characters

[sleek halo]

“funny” (He’s going to have a pretty brutal fight/death)

[hoary berry]

i'm glad you like the justice idea

[devout grotto]

Speaking of gods

[split mortar]

I think using both when you think its best may be a option

[devout grotto]

I'm lowkey struggling to come up with the kind of god Seisai would have

God of precious gems/metals????

[sleek halo]

The plan is mostly

[split mortar]

Seisai?

[sleek halo]

to have the god make Yharim question

everything he stands for

[hot valve]

Heloo

How’s it going

[devout grotto]

O the setting for one of my stories

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[devout grotto]

Yharim-aligned shogun, rebellion and all

[sleek halo]

the idea is that

[split mortar]

Haiaiaiiai

People making story’s

[sleek halo]

The god is also to both

[untold oracle]

I find first person more difficult tbh

[hot valve]

Oh cool

[sleek halo]

match Yharim in combat

but also challenge his ideals

[devout grotto]

I'm wondering if the same god can even be worshipped in two completely different nations (like. Irl)

[sleek halo]

The best part is I have an idea for part of his power

[devout grotto]

I might make Rivazzulans worship Tyrian

He can get a different name (in Italian most likely)

[split mortar]

Could be word of Tyrian spread and people started worshipping them from ages away

[hot valve]

Yoo Italy reference

[untold oracle]

Is second person like ”I watch as you …”

[sleek halo]

He first judges them, when that has been decided he grows in strength to fit how unjust they are

The better your are as a person, the more your ideals and dreams are justified

the less he can do

[hoary berry]

it's speaking to the reader yeah
either directly as a fourth wall break, or with the reader taking the position of an in-universe character

[devout grotto]

There's enough vanilla stuff that are references to Italian stuff so I made an Italy-inspired nation

[sleek halo]

(There is an upper limit)

[hoary berry]

that's really cool

[hot valve]

Oh that’s pretty neat

[sleek halo]

But Yharim is fucked in this scenario

This is just before finding scal

[devout grotto]

Yep, that's how I came up with the nations in my stories, culture-specific vanilla items

[sleek halo]

he’s already far gone

I think one idea

Is I kinda want him to be specifically suited to the people he fights

[split mortar]

Oh damn, reminds me of an oc a friend has (unrelated to terraria)

Cool power imo

[sleek halo]

so I kinda want him to be heavily resistant to auric rejection

The idea is that he reaches the upper limit of how strong he can get so his domain finds other ways to equal it out

(Writing around auric rejection is a bitch, so I just have made it essentially non functional )

[split mortar]

When the melee guy can’t be meleed back cause his armour hates you yeah it sounds hard to write around

[sleek halo]

also it means

any hit must have

a massive impact

Hmm

I kinda want this character to really fuck with Yharim’s whole foundation/ideals

So I’m just going to make the dragon he got the auric soul from

a fucking jackass

so I think I’ll just stick with the Dragon of Wrath idea

[devout grotto]

Now kinda thinking about the approach I wanna take on writing my interpretation of a Terrarian-Yharim showdown

(It's basically the Aang-Ozai showdown except the Terrarian kills Yharim)

[split mortar]

Hehe internet not working

[devout grotto]

Oh no 😭

Also I feel like rewriting/making some recipes for some Zenith components for my story, especially for stuff like the Horseman's Blade since Pumpkin Moon isn't canon to the lore

[split mortar]

I think the most logical explanation is distortion stuff affecting moon

Not very logical but I think it’s the best

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[frozen zodiac]

if i had to pick a summon weapon i like most it would probably be the mechworm staff because if it doesn't bite me if i dare to touch it i would want to pet the worm

https://tenor.com/view/worm-worm-on-a-string-pet-cute-worm-love-gif-26071710

[untold oracle]

Hai kana

[split mortar]

They’re removing the self harm of the sepulchre iirc so I think you may get a contender

[frozen zodiac]

BIG WORM

BIGGEST WORM even

[split mortar]

Yea

Until dog rework comes out

Then we may have the biggest boss in all of tmod

[frozen zodiac]

what about though

[split mortar]

That grows in size and no one can live to the point where it grows bigger then dog

It could

But I doubt it

[spring helm]

CalVanities better let us have full sized dog as a pet

[split mortar]

Yes

They better

[frozen zodiac]

oh i did not think about that

[spring helm]

i thought about writing a short snippet of the Providence fight but then I realized,
I don't actually know what the fuck she wants

[devout grotto]

Uh something something purity

Idk much beyond that either 😭

Anyway I just wanna say I love the Terrarian

<- Has a history of liking protagonists in general

[spring helm]

gonna have to specify more for that

what about them, because basically everything about them is up to headcanon

[devout grotto]

turns them into an anime RPG protag (that can have either a male or female form) with mind

[spring helm]

why are they so big when the image is so small

[devout grotto]

😭

[dusk laurel]

Curse of the Discord

[spring helm]

is this yuri

[split mortar]

No its yaoi

(Rude of yharim)

[spring helm]

he's a tsundere

except there's no love and he just hates Mark

[split mortar]

She wants to kill everything so nothing can suffer

Though I think we will get more in sso

-# sso really is hiding so much lore from us

[frozen zodiac]

doomed yuri maybe?

[spring helm]

maybe

one of them won't be in the world by the end of the story that's for sure

[frank dune]

hello everyone

[split mortar]

Can’t tell if it’s mark or yharim

https://tenor.com/view/aminagifs-gif-25043028

Hi alexey

[proven rivet]

Discord fucking up a good feature

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/fruit-ninja-watermelon-gif-10872840

[frozen zodiac]

that poor watermelon! how dare you post a poor fruit being murdered!

[dusk laurel]

@split mortar Kana killed you again

[tall delta]

hello lore people what had been discussed or revealed here

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[tall delta]

insane

[swift wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874125680420470814/1293035639469510687/attachment-14.gif

[split mortar]

WHATS WITH THE MELON MURDER

[split mortar]

Not much I think, just lore chat making fanfics

AND KANA KILLING ME

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-watermelon-eating-eats-eat-gif-25258999

[split mortar]

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-watermelon-day-national-watermelon-day-food-watermelon-fruit-gif-12270005

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-minos-prime-death-gif-5432752624659374066

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/slow-motion-happy-watermelon-day-national-watermelon-day-blowing-up-watermelon-gif-12269606

[frank dune]

and ppl hate me for gif spamming

[wheat walrus]

Jamaican smile, german stare, brazilian funk; those who know.

[dusk laurel]

I will explode.

💥

[frank dune]

can player do heart surgery on themselves?

is draeheart canon?

?

???

[split mortar]

Heavy reference item so probably not sadly

[empty dew]

Yes, now, give me that heart

[frank dune]

imagine if draedon put nanoplague in his heart instead of nanomachines

[split mortar]

Plague terrarian

[frank dune]

pressing b mid scal fight

then terrarian slowly rots from inside in deep pain

while calamitas watches filled with fear

[spring helm]

now that i think about it, intense pain can start the fight or flight response

[frank dune]

traumatized for entire life

[spring helm]

imagine the plague heart forcefully activates adrenaline and rage in exchange for hp

[split mortar]

Like a offensive version of drae heart

[split mortar]

Isn’t she already traumatised?

[frank dune]

i dont think she seen someone painfuly rot while being alive

[split mortar]

Fair

Thigh she def has seen people burn alive I think

New trauma yay

[frank dune]

id like to imagine draedon putting detonator into yharims armor

[sinful adder]

Hey actually

[frank dune]

but not using cuz wanna see terrarian vs yharim fight

[sinful adder]

The plague and nano heart probably use the same nano machine tech

Just programmed to do different things

[split mortar]

True

[swift wigeon]

Unsure, could very well be though. An artificial heart that can use nanomachines to repair itself isn't out of the realm of possibility, and we DO have the nurse to perform the transplant. Because, you know, all nurses can do heart surgery single handedly

[sinful adder]

I imagine that "nurses" in terraria just know healing magic

[frank dune]

player just rips weir heart of and places new one without even fixing hole in chest

[swift wigeon]

"Abracadabra your liver is mine"

[split mortar]

Syringe filled with heal magic

[frank dune]

so calamitous

[sinful adder]

Like, instead of doing super careful surgery, they can pump you full of concentrated and professionally made regeneration potion that works better than the one we have

[swift wigeon]

Drink a healing potion and you'll be fine

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-medic-laughing-insanity-gif-25954287

[trim edge]

ok i can already the see the response to "how can player heal", so
how does nurse heal npcs quickly

[swift wigeon]

Healing potions can fix being eviscerated by lasers, 4th degree burns, and most importantly... papercuts

[sinful adder]

We have healing potions made of just mushroom and gel, so it's not a stretch to think that a more refined version of that magic recipe could work even better if injected via syringe in the right spot

[trim edge]

nurse fucking throws the syringe and it heals npcs even if it wasn't the tip that hit them

[split mortar]

Honestly might be vanilla jank there

But that’s unfun

[spring helm]

so even topological contact works

[swift wigeon]

The glass shatters and punctures their skin, allowing the liquid to enter their bloodstream

You literally hear the glass break

So, she's healing wounds by inflicting them

Well, tbf that's kinda just surgery in a nutshell

My explanation was so good that everyone died

[spring helm]

💥

[swift wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874125680420470814/1293035639469510687/attachment-14.gif

[dusk laurel]

You will be judged by the Arbiter.

[visual kiln]

what dragons and gods do we know about btw

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/fruitytown-gif-19311216

@split mortar

[split mortar]

Yay I’m liv

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[empty dew]

Imagine SCommunity dealing so much damage to the Terrarian, they become straight up invincible

[frank dune]

Another gif spam

[empty dew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/939634824396800030/1228012848286924902/caption.gif

[tall delta]

wait you don't know?

[visual kiln]

havent been paying too much attention lately

[tall delta]

honestly same lo

[split mortar]

Death
Life
Yharon
Zeratros
Vetrasyl
Gluttony

Le dragon

I don’t rember any others

Oh yeah and flame

[spring helm]

Dragons:

• Zeratros, Dragon of Primordial Light (consumed by Xeroc)
• Vetrasyl, Dragon of Storms (consumed by Otonilou) (ancestor of wyverns?)
• Unnamed Dragon of Water (consumed by Tyrian)
• Unnamed Dragon of Fire (consumed by Providence)
• Unnamed Dragon of Gluttony (consumed by Slime God)
• Unnamed Dragon of Life (consumed by Silva)
• Unnamed Dragon of Death (consumed by whatever Ravager used to be)
• Mega Mammoth Dragon, Dragon of Frost (ancestor of Fishrons?)

i missed some probably

i fucking forgot yharon

[dusk laurel]

[empty dew]

Wait, Mega Mammoth Dragon is a thing in the new lore???????

[dusk laurel]

How do you forget Yharon

[split mortar]

You forgot THE dragon of the mod

[dusk laurel]

Yea

[visual kiln]

@ruby heart

[spring helm]

i eated him

[split mortar]

Yeah it’s the frost dragon

[split mortar]

Ancestor of dukes

[empty dew]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO, SO NICE TO BE ALIVE TODAY, YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[tall delta]

Isnt there a space dragon or smt

[spring helm]

what

[visual kiln]

tbh i wish cal wasn't so dragon/god centric

[split mortar]

No?

[empty dew]

Bolt

[spring helm]

oh shit

right

[visual kiln]

space god and gravity dragon

[split mortar]

Not to my knowledge

[empty dew]

...why would you do that...

[spring helm]

Dragon of Gravity

[visual kiln]

bc

why not

[spring helm]

consumed by the God of Space

[visual kiln]

he's the one who came up with the idea

[split mortar]

Wait what that’s canon?

[visual kiln]

plumg

[split mortar]

The space god?

[dusk laurel]

Dragon of Gravity is real yeah

God of Space

Like geometry

[split mortar]

Wha

[dusk laurel]

Not outer space

[split mortar]

When what whou

[empty dew]

>Replies to the message about Mega Mammoth Dragon
>Randomly pings Triangle
>Doesn't elaborate
>Doesn't leave either

[spring helm]

vanillin we are not geometrizing the dragon of gravity

[split mortar]

Isn’t that like hyper busted

[dusk laurel]

Yep

2nd strongest god ever

Only behind Xeroc iirc

[spring helm]

Dragons did not just have unlimited control over their respective domains guys

[empty dew]

Xeroc is a dragon, got it.......

[dusk laurel]

^ [is this true?]

[visual kiln]

#lore-discussion message

[empty dew]

Still, it is funny out of context

[split mortar]

Oh that’s the theoretical god that was said to be THE strongest known one a bit ago

[spring helm]

gravity might seem busted but it's not like the dragon could just make black holes

[visual kiln]

basd

[split mortar]

I’m talking about geometry space god guy

[empty dew]

Me, when I smash you (no eyes, no bones, no fucking blood):

[tall delta]

was xeroc the only god who trained?

[manic coral]

Same, but at the same time, not much that can nessesarily be done about it

[visual kiln]

u could do zany things with deus maybe

[split mortar]

Distortion will prob be free of a lot of it

[visual kiln]

and the astral

[split mortar]

Moldy star mmmmmm

[visual kiln]

roy at least is renaming gods to like either titans or archons

[empty dew]

Add WoB, please

[split mortar]

Didn’t know it was archons

I think that’s a leak

[spring helm]

some stuff about the dragon/god

[manic coral]

The limiting factor isn't ideas or creativity

Moreso the need to leave our options very open due to how cal is developed

[dusk laurel]

What was the name of the space god again
Shakidou or smth like that iirc?

[spring helm]

i dont remember fr fr

[visual kiln]

fair

[split mortar]

When was this space god and gravity dragon stuff said?

What

[dusk laurel]

Weeks ago

[visual kiln]

ok so what if u learned how to code and/or sprite

[split mortar]

[dusk laurel]

I guessed both domains

[split mortar]

Bruh

[manic coral]

I don't know and I don't like that it's apparently been said

[spring helm]

vanillin carried there

[spring helm]

oh no

[manic coral]

Even if to be fair that's not my call since I never worked on anything surrounding it

[split mortar]

Oh, sucks

[manic coral]

So, whatever

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[empty dew]

...so, uh, are there any plans to have in-game dragons other than Yharon?

[tall delta]

its fine the god is already dead!!

[manic coral]

Nope

[empty dew]

[cosmic zenith]

It seems so because you haven't heard anything detailed about the civilizations

[empty dew]

No Mega Mammoth Dragon, sad

[split mortar]

Auric dragons

Dukes and folly’s and wyrms I think are dragons but not with the auric soul iirc

[spring helm]

stippy cup

[manic coral]

I mena yeah, but even then, those loop back to those topics as well

[tall delta]

wait utill you hear about the people who could transform into dragons

[empty dew]

>2.1.0.002 comes out!
>It added only a few items...
>Those are lores for the civilizations.....
>Each of them are as long as "War and Peace"........

[cosmic zenith]

Sure, they'd undeniably be a big part, but I think it'd seem a lot less overwhelming if there was already a lot of public information on non-God/Dragon stuff

[visual kiln]

yeah but all civilizations seem to be related to gods, elementals, or dragons

[cosmic zenith]

Maybe because over the course of history it was hard to avoid every single one :p
Especially considering you're in the heart of it all

[split mortar]

Well yeah, but just cause there’s relations doesn’t mean it’s dominant in the civilisation

Brim for example just kinda sat there asleep till it destroyed doing nothing

[spring helm]

yeah who would have thought that being repsresenting/holding domain over parts of the world would be intrinsically ties to those who live on said world

[cosmic zenith]

It's basically impossible for the lands that you see ingame (and we can talk most about) to be entirely disconnected

[split mortar]

^

We are litteraly in ground zero of the crusade

[visual kiln]

would be cool if other major civilizations existed imo

well they def do exist just

[cosmic zenith]

They almost certainly did

Just not here in this part of the map

[split mortar]

There’s only so much they can fit in game

[visual kiln]

we never hear about hteir impact on the world

or what they're like

[cosmic zenith]

Because we started from the main plot and are moving outwards

[visual kiln]

we hear nothing about the world outside of this continent

[visual kiln]

that's good tho yea

that ur expanding the worldbuilding outside of what we can see

[split mortar]

Well except for some of the strongest beings I would doubt their reach is past their continent

[cosmic zenith]

Also, just because something connects to Gods/Dragons/Elementals, doesn't mean it's defined by them
Permafrost is a whole lot more than just "Yharim's advisor"

[spring helm]

stip has the name of the dragon of gravity been revealed

[cosmic zenith]

She doesn't have one currently

The only Dragons with names, currently, are Zeratros, Yharon and Vetrasyl

[hot valve]

Newton

[visual kiln]

name more

i will name them myself

if u dont

i warn u i am horrible at coming up with names

[spring helm]

name the ancestors of the eidolon wyrms right now

[visual kiln]

ur not prepared

[visual kiln]

nomon

[dusk laurel]

[spring helm]

🤯

this nomon person keeps showing up...

must be lore significant

[visual kiln]

what if eidolon wyrms were like

not dragons

[dusk laurel]

[spring helm]

arachnid

[visual kiln]

just unexplained abyssal horror

would go hard imo

more theorycrafting material

[spring helm]

then what the hell are the armed sharks that hunt them

[visual kiln]

also unexplained abyssal horrors

ur an unexplained abyssal horror

[hot valve]

Often when I entire lore chat it’s revealed that there’s some god/dragon that was mentioned at some point in the past lmao

[spring helm]

😳

[cosmic zenith]

~~You do realize we've heard all these points like yesterday right Aza
~~

[split mortar]

What

[spring helm]

lmao

[dusk laurel]

Lel

[spring helm]

stip not everyone just scours this chat 24/7

[split mortar]

If any abyss guy gets to be the unexplained horror make it jared

[split mortar]

Not everyone can

Thanks to sleep

[visual kiln]

i have 0 original thoughts tho,,,,,,

[spring helm]

[visual kiln]

i copy everything from the people around me,,,

[cosmic zenith]

;-;

[visual kiln]

calsad~4

im sorry

[tall delta]

amazing

[spring helm]

mutual cry session in our #lore-discussion

[split mortar]

[dusk laurel]

What a catastrophe

[split mortar]

[visual kiln]

no more crying

i have a theory

ok so r offshoots the first non-auric dragons ?

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/opening-eyes-stick-to-your-guns-open-up-my-head-song-staring-at-you-looking-at-you-gif-26309365

[dusk laurel]

. . .

This is peak cinema.

[visual kiln]

:3

[split mortar]

jared is the first eidolon wyrm

But I doubt it no, the auric souls were gifted meaning there was a time even yharon was a normie

[visual kiln]

at the same time tho

[sinful adder]

Yeah. The idea of an offshoot is really a myth

[visual kiln]

every non auric dragon is called an offshoot

[sinful adder]

That's because it's a myth in universe

[spring helm]

yeah it seems that dragons were around for a while before they received auric souls

[dusk laurel]

Yharim sucks at biology

[sinful adder]

They're actually just normal dragons that were never given auric souls

[visual kiln]

yeah

because they ran out

[split mortar]

So the likes of old duke and jared or even duke fishron

They are dragons just missed the auric soul chance iirc

[visual kiln]

im calling auric dragons that were born after they ran out offshoots

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[visual kiln]

because they were called that before and i exist to spite god

[split mortar]

auric dragons aren’t born…

[visual kiln]

they quite literally are tho

otherwise they wouldn't exist

or hatched

[dusk laurel]

Dragons --> Auric Dragons --> Offshoots

_ _

[split mortar]

They weren’t born with the auric soul

[indigo glade]

Dragons, also known as Draconic Offshoots, were originally born of two Auric Dragons.

[split mortar]

They gained it somehow

[dusk laurel]

What came before the auric dragons

[split mortar]

Dragons

[indigo glade]

Dragons.

[dusk laurel]

Then they are non-auric soul dragons

[visual kiln]

oki so 1 sec

[hot valve]

So like

There was definitely a dragon of time right

[split mortar]

Maybe?

[spring helm]

they're probably called offshoots because the auric dragons had just existed for much longer than people did

[indigo glade]

Replace Old Duke's soul with an Auric Soul, and he wouldv'e been an Auric Dragon.

[split mortar]

We don’t know

[sinful adder]

Regular dragons that people would think were offshoots

[split mortar]

Same with jared^

[hot valve]

Feel like whatever god made up a theoretical dragon of time would be pretty cracked

[split mortar]

There wouldn’t be auric dragons for the offshoot to be

Dragon of time paradoxed itself out of existence

[sinful adder]

True, but I mean that it would be indistinguishable from the things people in universe claim to be offshoots, because there's no such thing as an offshoot

[spring helm]

what the fuck did Shakidou do and how did they die
second strongest god is dead
did Yharim get to them

[hot valve]

Who is Shakidou

[dusk laurel]

Probably

[split mortar]

Obviously yharim did

[cosmic bridge]

who the hell is shakidou

[spring helm]

god of space

[dusk laurel]

Shakidou is the god of space

[sinful adder]

A god of space would control the topology of space, right?

[split mortar]

God of space, as in geometry type space

[dusk laurel]

geometric stuff

[visual kiln]

three things:

• dragons ascended, and weren't hatched/born/whatever with their auric soul
• we have never heard of any non-auric dragons that aren't offshoots of auric dragons, and the idea has never been hinted at much
• ascending with an auric soul changes ur appearance dramatically

[hot valve]

Oh that kind of space

[split mortar]

Think so yeha

[spring helm]

space as in like the geometry of space, not the cosmos

[hot valve]

Unshockingly strong

[visual kiln]

my theory rn is that the offshoots are the first non-auric dragons, and before ascension dragons were something else

[split mortar]

That’s why only the sun overpowers it

[visual kiln]

and ascension changed them into dragons

their current forms

[cosmic zenith]

(Theory)

[hot valve]

Control over space is rather undoubtedly powerful

[spring helm]

Shakidou: "I control space."
Yharim: 😡 👊

[split mortar]

It was said gaining auric soul physically morphed the dragon iirc

[visual kiln]

yeah

more proof imo,,

they could've been not dragons before

[split mortar]

Shakidou’s makeshift infinity when I fucking punch them

[sinful adder]

Noob Shakidou should have created a topological hole in space to either hide in or trap yharim in

Like a bubble of soap pinched off from a film

[visual kiln]

i dont think shakidou would be able to do that

would take far too much power

[sinful adder]

Control over topology and geometry should allow such a thing

[visual kiln]

gods dont have absolute control over their domain

[sinful adder]

That is true

[split mortar]

Wait doesn’t other space cutting things exist, like ark of the cosmos or distortion portals so I doubt that would be too hard for yharim to counter

(Or is that me taking things too literally)

[sinful adder]

Apparently yes

[spring helm]

i dont think the AotC literally cuts space-time

seems a bit too high-power for Calamity

[hot valve]

If there was a dragon of time, it is unlikely that whatever god it makes could control time
It goes without saying how strong time control is as an ability

[split mortar]

Ark of the elements says it does iirc

And that’s used in cosmos

[visual kiln]

i dont think a dragon of time would be able to like stop time or anything

just slow it down a little

[spring helm]

you know not all tooltips are canon right

[visual kiln]

maybe change how it affects things

or speed it up a little

[split mortar]

I did mention I may be taking things too literal so yes

[sinful adder]

Want to hear my argument for why it could both do that but also not be too powerful?

[hot valve]

A lot of tooltips are definitely just for flavour

[spring helm]

like this isn't actually what happens

(atom splitter)

[indigo glade]

Ark of the Cosmos does cut space-time, as seen with the visuals, but it is immediately "patched" up by an unknown force.

[visual kiln]

actually i'd argue that space/gravity/time gods/dragons would be rlly weak with their domains, simply due to the fucking insane power requirements to do anything rlly notable with their domains

[split mortar]

Maybe space in calamity like to heal itself

[sinful adder]

Here's why power scalers are stupid and these tooltips don't have any relevance to power level:

[split mortar]

Well you could also prob with some trouble cause gravity to harm things, much more crazy use yeah but say with soace easy teleportation would probably be a thing

[hot valve]

I mean if the space god is “the second strongest god” that’s saying a lot

[spring helm]

Xeroc is the strongest god and they don't go past continent level i think

[hot valve]

According to yharim that’d scale just about right under the exo mechs

[visual kiln]

i imagine that's bc it'd be easier to make portals and teleport

just warp in a train

hit the user

or like teleport their heart out

[split mortar]

Yeah space god would have ways to do things without moulding space time like it’s silly string

[indigo glade]

Space God could just be Fujitora from One Piece.

[split mortar]

Imagine trying to fight providence but she rapidly teleports

Yeah, pain

[indigo glade]

Just hurl large enough debris, that will make you win.

[hot valve]

I suppose whatever the space god could do won’t be known for a long time tbf
Considering they’re dead

And I’m not sure how much lore (and when such lore) will be told

[indigo glade]

Limitless...

[split mortar]

Yharim is capable of smacking it no matter the distance confirmed

[spring helm]

[hot valve]

frankly creating portals would allow you to split any being apart, unless there’s limitations

[sinful adder]

Timeline stuff:
Quantum superposition can do that in real life, but this isn't a power feat. Every object in the universe is quite regularly in a superposition, and exists in multiple timelines (if timelines exist). There isn't any special power required for this, it is just the nature of reality that allows it to happen. Being able to control which timelines are "real" would be useful, but would only amount to some level of influence over probability. For example, a special superposition projectile would be in two places at once, so that you can't dodge in either of those two directions. It would become a single projectile when it collides from either of those directions. You'd be able to get better accuracy this way, but that's all

[split mortar]

The limitation being

Hard as fuck to do

[visual kiln]

u woudln't be able to do anything rlly noticeable with quantum superposition stuff i dont think

plus that isn't part of the time/space/gravity domain

[hot valve]

If making a portal is hard then this “2nd strongest god” is evidently weaker than signus which is pretty funny to think about

[visual kiln]

it'd be waves or probability domain

[sinful adder]

This is about the atom splitter

[visual kiln]

oh

[hot valve]

Technically nothing would contradict this either

[visual kiln]

2nd strongest through combat skill

[split mortar]

Signus actively has an advantage being a thing from both worlds

Also I meant that in the way of it being hard to land a portal on someone

[hot valve]

Isn’t the Signus being “a being of both worlds” a red herring

[indigo glade]

Signus is not.

It is explicitly mentioned that Signus cannot have permanent portals.

[split mortar]

I never said they could?

[hot valve]

But landing a portal on someone is fair

[split mortar]

Idk

[hot valve]

That is probably actually hard if the opponent is rather fast

[split mortar]

Especially since it seems the other side sees you attempting to do so

[indigo glade]

If Signus was a being of both worlds, Signus could create permanent portals without expending power, which Signus cannot do.

[split mortar]

When was it said a being of both worlds would be able to do that? I thought it was just a lot easier

[indigo glade]

"Tearing a rift into our world from the distortion takes vast amounts of energy; that is, unless you are a being of both worlds. Signus alone can create these portals with such ease, but even it cannot sustain them for long before the energy used to open them violently disperses."

[indigo glade]

A being of both worlds would not expend power to make portals.

And portals require a constant stream of power.

[split mortar]

That doesn’t say it would be permanent

[indigo glade]

Essentially meaning a being of both worlds would have a permanent portal.

[split mortar]

Just that it wouldn’t take vast amounts of energy

[sinful adder]

That very entry says this isn't the case

[visual kiln]

who was the 4th and 5th dragon to ascend

[split mortar]

Even ceaseless which is the permanent portal seems to have a source of power

[split mortar]

We don’t know but I imagine one of them is zeratros

[visual kiln]

what r the biggest domains

[hot valve]

Life

Probably

Lol

[visual kiln]

feel like those would be the ones gotten first

[fierce pagoda]

Domain expansion

[hot valve]

kind of extremely universal

[split mortar]

Life
Death
Rebirth

Those are the first ones

[sinful adder]

Space splitting stuff, for the ark of the cosmos and space god:
Like timelines and quantum superpositions, space splitting is more common than you'd think. Any amount of mass or energy, when concentrated densely enough, creates a gravitational force strong enough to split spacetime into two distinct regions, an "inside" and an "outside", thus forming what we see as a black hole. For all intents and purposes, a black hole is a miniature universe. The physical mechanism that separates it is the same as what separates the bounds of our universe from outside it, in an indirect way. This not only proves that space splitting abilities have no bearing on power, but also proves that referencing universes has no bearing on power, because a universe can be just about anything

And that's why power scalers are stupid

[dusk laurel]

^

[visual kiln]

yeah big domains

important ones

tbh i headcanon that zeratros ascended relatively late

[split mortar]

The last bit

When powerscalers say a person can destroy universes or whatever they mean universes comparable or greater then our own

Now how tf they measure that in any way idfk

[visual kiln]

and before zeratros there was no actual king of dragons and the dragons had basically complete anarchy or something

[split mortar]

^

[dusk laurel]

This might be important

[fierce pagoda]

Powerscalers after i beat the shit out of them for saying some mid ass unkown isekai character beats Goku:☠️

[indigo glade]

If the first three dragons who got Auric Souls were the cycle of life (Life, Death, Rebirth), then maybe something equally important to Terraria was obtained next. Maybe rock, or something.

[split mortar]

Well if it importance then zeratros would almost def be 4th

[visual kiln]

i imagine the first 3 would be kinda important in dragon society

[indigo glade]

If we go with this thinking, it is possible that Primordial Light was obtained last, since that is actually outside of Terraria.

[split mortar]

Cause then the sunlight and shadows would get included

[visual kiln]

yeah

[hot valve]

Feel like there’s probably a dragon of magic

[split mortar]

Yeah but sunlight is extremely important to all life on earth

[visual kiln]

what if the sun didn't exist before zeratros lmao

[split mortar]

Then it prob wouldn’t be a domain

[indigo glade]

Say that to Silva making plants made of ribs appear in Azafure.

[visual kiln]

why not

[split mortar]

Because they’re from the world soul the domains are probably

Also nothing has the power to make a sun in calamity

[visual kiln]

it being a domain and the moon and stars not being domains implies the sun is far more terrestrial than cosmic

[sinful adder]

Well, they think they are, but a universe can be any scale, and just look like it's huge. In order for the fantastical things shown to be possible, the laws of physics need to be different, and different laws of physics means that all the things you see aren't guaranteed to be what they seem. You could have an entire universe inside an atom sized black hole, running the same physics as our universe, but with all of time, space, and energy scaled down so that it lasts a single instant.

[hot valve]

The stars are all just condensed mana while the sun is literally just the sun iirc

[indigo glade]

Wouldn't a Dragon of Magic/Mana just be a Dragon of Stars?

[visual kiln]

dragon of mana is a headcanon of stip's iirc

[dusk laurel]

The sun in Calamity is just a ball of Primordial Light iirc

[split mortar]

Primordial light includes shadows so it’s not just the sun iirc

[sinful adder]

It's "primordial light", which is some mystery thing that isn't normal mana

[split mortar]

True

[visual kiln]

still tho

[hot valve]

Oh weird

[indigo glade]

There is potentially proof for Primordial Life being terrestial. It appears in Chaos Elementals and Rod of Discords, which make no sense logically, since those are from Hallow Gods, which probably had nothing to do with Xeroc/Zeratros.

[fierce pagoda]

How come its a headcanon if they sre the writer, i mean i get it but i dont

[visual kiln]

yeah nvm importance defines order partially

[indigo glade]

It is not in the game, so it is technically headcanon.

[hot valve]

Each writer may have their own interpretations or ideas that they like, but aren’t going to be added into the actual lore

[split mortar]

Because there’s a process to adding things, a lore writer can want something and think it makes sense but gets rejected iirc

[dusk laurel]

It went from Life [first], then death, and then Yharon

So yeah importance is pretty important to the order

[visual kiln]

true tho

primordial light could be like

[indigo glade]

Primordial Light is weird and I do not like it (Joke).

[split mortar]

Primordial light is funky

Devious even

[visual kiln]

some weird rlly dense form of mana

[split mortar]

Do we know it’s even the same matter as mana?

[indigo glade]

Mana transformed by good people, obviously.

[visual kiln]

no reason it can't be

and it probably is imo

[split mortar]

Yeah but it could also just not be

[visual kiln]

bc then mana becomes more interesting

[indigo glade]

Wizard calls it a "magic", and is able to turn it into a staff. It can't be that foreign to him, so it being mana is likely.

[visual kiln]

o

[brave dew]

If mana and pl are close does that mean mana can also create things like pl in the boss rush ?

[split mortar]

Fair

[visual kiln]

also the sun shines

stars also shine

[split mortar]

So does a lightbulb

[dusk laurel]

That checks out

[visual kiln]

isn't that just every summon ever

[split mortar]

^

[visual kiln]

wtf xeroc is a summoner

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc is a summoner confirmed???????

[indigo glade]

Technically no.

[brave dew]

Lol

[indigo glade]

(Summoner Draedon Arsenal items)

[visual kiln]

true

[dusk laurel]

Fair

[brave dew]

So its like most summons

[indigo glade]

Hm.

Why do Fallen Stars disappear at day?

[fierce pagoda]

Red decided it so

[hot valve]

The primordial light slurps them up idk

[visual kiln]

weird interactions with sunlight

[dusk laurel]

The light dissipates it maybe

[visual kiln]

probably like

[split mortar]

Primordial light evaporates dense amounts of mana not connected to something

Idk

[visual kiln]

similar to how sunlight causes sunburns on skin

stars r rlly rlly vulnerable to sunburn

need sunscreen smh

[dusk laurel]

[fierce pagoda]

Skin cancer

[indigo glade]

Are we the sunscreen then?

[visual kiln]

yes

[split mortar]

I guess

Well

More so our bones the sunscrener

[indigo glade]

I was talking about how we can keep Fallen Stars in our inventory.

[split mortar]

Oh

Then yeah

[warped rapids]

is there a known age for yharim or like how long ago did all the shit go down

[indigo glade]

Yharim is around one hundred and thirty years old.

And the Crusade started around a century ago.

[split mortar]

And the crusade is around a century

[warped rapids]

damn younger than id have expected lol

[visual kiln]

actually there's a way to like

[fierce pagoda]

GILF

[split mortar]

Permafrost older then him

[visual kiln]

make primordial light terrestrial if its rlly dense mana

mana slowly falls from space into terraria right

[split mortar]

I doubt it’s really dense mana

[visual kiln]

why

[indigo glade]

I still think my joke suggestion of Primordial Light being mana transformed by good people works.

[dusk laurel]

Why

[indigo glade]

Hallow connections.

[dusk laurel]

Oh

[split mortar]

Cause otherwise how would any spell or thing exist if dense af mana is rapidly bombarding it all

[visual kiln]

yeah

[dusk laurel]

That works

[split mortar]

No wonder yharim doesn’t have any pl

[visual kiln]

wdym

same way it currently exists?

how do any spells exist with primordial light rapidly bombarding it all

[split mortar]

Well if I throw a brick at you, you wouldn’t like that

Would pl be like that but minigun for spells

[indigo glade]

Also would make sense why Empress of Light uses power "from beyond the forces of nature". No one can convert mana to Primordial Light on purpose, and would increase the impact of EoL being called a "leech".

[split mortar]

That it’s not dense

[visual kiln]

??

wdym

[split mortar]

Dense would have more force behind it

So it would physically impact shit a lot more

[indigo glade]

Also, I do not think Primordial Light is dense mana, since that already exists. That is the Astral.

[fierce pagoda]

Do you think the astral infection biome stinks

[indigo glade]

Compared to you? No.

[fierce pagoda]

Alright bro

[warped rapids]

probably smells like burning plastic or somethin

[visual kiln]

no im saying

if u get a whole lot of mana and compress it a lot

[livid echo]

Wait so terminus is an ancient thing with godlike amounts of power

[visual kiln]

it changes state and becomes more stable

[livid echo]

and when we use it it catches xeroc's attention right?

[visual kiln]

and that's what primordial light is

that's my idea

[cosmic zenith]

Wacky
How would things exist on the planet then

[split mortar]

Oh then yeah more fine

[split mortar]

Thermal vents

[indigo glade]

Say that to Silva who made rib plants in actual hell.

[split mortar]

Like hell

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, there's no Dragon of Mana

[visual kiln]

idk how do things exist in the underground jungle

[indigo glade]

Dragon of Maa.

[cosmic zenith]

Sun isn't just about Light

Arguably, heat is more important

Because that's what allows water to be in a liquid state, which allows life to exist

[fierce pagoda]

I thought mass was the most important part

[visual kiln]

the heat is carried by light

[split mortar]

Thermal vents like hell or the close to hell sunken see sub biome

[cosmic zenith]

I don't call the shots
The decisions are collective
And I may very well come up with something that I don't think should be added to the lore, either because it's not relevant or because it's not fitting

[warped rapids]

can you please make it official which biome smells the worst

[visual kiln]

crags

[dusk laurel]

Sulphurous sea

[warped rapids]

i wouldve thought sunken sea

[indigo glade]

crgs

[fierce pagoda]

Crimson bruv or maybe corruption

Constant rot or flesh

[split mortar]

Crags is why sulphur sea so stinky

[dusk laurel]

Crags

[split mortar]

Oh true those would be contenders

[warped rapids]

true crimson def

[indigo glade]

I can't tell which smells the worst because of Melon Gun.

[dusk laurel]

True . . .

[visual kiln]

aerie

[fierce pagoda]

Whats it with seeker today, bro is out for blood

[dusk laurel]

This is the proof

[visual kiln]

yharim hasnt showered in decades

[split mortar]

Nah astral infection smells the worst

Garbo is there often

[split mortar]

Nuh uh I’m no longer that

[visual kiln]

@mighty zenith

u gonna take that

[indigo glade]

I've been feeling cheeky and mischievous recently.

I have been insulting more people often.

[visual kiln]

insult urself smh

[split mortar]

Today for you

Stub your teeth

[warped rapids]

the dragons aerie will be the best smelling

[visual kiln]

no it wont be

yharim hasnt showered in decades

[fierce pagoda]

Best smelling, maybe uhh shimmer? Idk

[warped rapids]

hmmmm

[fierce pagoda]

The vernal pass maybe

Flowers smell good

[split mortar]

But what if they’re the stinky flowers

[indigo glade]

Forest.

[dusk laurel]

Floral Paradise.
[No, I will not explain.]

[warped rapids]

those ones with the yellow thing in the middle

[indigo glade]

Just a normal forest.

[fierce pagoda]

They certainly dont look like it

[visual kiln]

who is

[fierce pagoda]

Best smelling is whatever house the princess lives in

[empty dew]

I think... Astrum Aureus fella....

[indigo glade]

Hmm...

@indigo glade You're a talentless bitch and you should feel worthless.

[dusk laurel]

[empty dew]

Tbf, you're the beach

[fierce pagoda]

That sounded like a real thing you feel about yourself

Hope youre doing ok

[dusk laurel]

Seeker of Knowledge is the only person I know the existence of who is older than Merkalto

[visual kiln]

shes like 8

[fierce pagoda]

? She can still smell good? Shes royalty

[visual kiln]

fair

[fierce pagoda]

Ah dont think i was implying anything else

[visual kiln]

okiiii

[fierce pagoda]

Im not bird

[dusk laurel]

[cloud ibex]

We don’t need to bring that up

[indigo glade]

Can I just point out how good Calamity's Princess quotes are?

[warped rapids]

[warped rapids]

introduce the princess to yharim see what she thinks

[fierce pagoda]

I like the self glazing from fabsol

[cloud ibex]

Don’t give Yharim more impressionable children

[warped rapids]

calamitas part 2

[indigo glade]

Fabsol probably didn't even write these.

[dusk laurel]

^

[visual kiln]

i want

833948244983239 chicken nuggets

[fierce pagoda]

Damn it, now its not as funny

[indigo glade]

Implying that it was before.

[fierce pagoda]

I think that a dev glazing himself through his own game is kinda funny

[dusk laurel]

Fabsol doesn't really do much with the lore iirc

[split mortar]

Isn’t fabsol like a boss coder not a npc one or am I tripping pinballs

[split mortar]

^

[dusk laurel]

^^^^^^^^

[sleek halo]

yea

p sure

[visual kiln]

thats the only thing fabsol does

[indigo glade]

No. Fabsol is the only Calamity developer, and they do everything. And everything we don't like, we blame them.

[dusk laurel]

[fierce pagoda]

Yeah... fabsols not so popular outside of the discord in my experience

Reddit hates him

[dusk laurel]

Reddit is the 3rd hell

[cloud ibex]

Contraversial lead developer

[dusk laurel]

I don't care for it

[split mortar]

Reddit is cringe, even outside the cal community

[dusk laurel]

Let's not get into reddit too much

Reb will nuke us

[idk, probably not true]

[indigo glade]

She won't. They just don't want us to mention specific users, due to a certain incident.

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[indigo glade]

We are allowed to talk about Reddit as a whole, though.

[dusk laurel]

The ||"ideas guy"||

[indigo glade]

And I can confirm it is shit and full of ignorant people.

[indigo glade]

You spelt it wrong.

[split mortar]

Oh are we not allowed to talk about that guy ?

[dusk laurel]

We were making fun of them

For like multiple instances

[indigo glade]

We aren't allowed to talk about out-of-server people in the server.

[dusk laurel]

^

[indigo glade]

Including people who frequent the Reddit.

[empty dew]

What? That is a rule?

[split mortar]

It was added

[fierce pagoda]

Lets invite him to the server so he stops being out of server

[cloud ibex]

You’re probably allowed to talk about them you just shouldn’t turn it into conversations solely about shitting on random people from Reddit or whatever saying dumb shit

[empty dew]

Agree

[split mortar]

Pretty sure it was added while I was in the convo

[indigo glade]

#calamity-update-talk message

[empty dew]

Oh, got it

[dusk laurel]

They ticked off Triangle just a little

A tiny smidge

[brave dew]

Poor triangle guy

[sinful adder]

Is this really an unreasonable thing?

Maybe I should not talk about this

Reddit sucks

[spare pier]

Yeah

I did

My thought process was just that Cirrus is a person that went through a lot and she has a lot of good advice for a child

[sinful adder]

Makes sense

[indigo glade]

You did good!

[spare pier]

Thank you :D

[indigo glade]

I love how the Princess just has an aura of positivity that makes even the Angler and Tax Collector like her.

[empty dew]

Hi, Rebecca. Who did this?

"Think [Name of Archmage] would let me paint him like one of his French girls?!"

[indigo glade]

Painter when talking about the Archmage while in the Tundra, I believe.

[spare pier]

I have no idea

[indigo glade]

Can we have Pirate talking about Mantis Shrimp?

[empty dew]

I would assume that's Fabsol's work... but eh

[empty dew]

"Mantis Shrimp! That's shrimple as that!"

[junior seal]

are the brimstone crags the remains of azafure

[empty dew]

(I would hate this particular phrase)

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[junior seal]

ok thanks

[dusk laurel]

That is a vile pfp, especially paired with the name

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874125680420470814/1293035639469510687/attachment-14.gif

[indigo glade]

I am going to burn this thing if I see it one more time.

[dusk laurel]

Please do it

[spring helm]

reminder that i need to finish the damn Princess chapter already it's been like 3 months

but i got no clue what to do with her

(other than her being the town mayor because Mark is a deadbeat)

[indigo glade]

The Princess going on about her day, brightening the moods of those around her.

My concept was indeed simple, but with great execution, it will make those who have no idea what a Terraria is happy too.

[trim edge]

is the princess an actual princess

[sinful adder]

maybe!

[indigo glade]

Amibigious.

[trim edge]

i think yharim killed her parents for worshipping gods
and her parents helped her escape just before their kingdom got destroyed

[sinful adder]

some people's headcanon is that she's a princess of some faraway land, wanting to help people after the whole war thing, and she heard about a guy who can build houses in a day, living right in ground zero of the war

[trim edge]

but that doesn't explain her spawn condition of having every npc so idk

[sinful adder]

I think she was from a country that managed to avoid most of the destruction due to being remote and not directly tied to any gods

[indigo glade]

The Princess makes awful puns so I have a large amount of bias towards her.

[trim edge]

are all the npcs homeless before they join you

[indigo glade]

Amidias was.

[trim edge]

i think all the npcs' homes were destroyed in yharim's war
which is why they willingly move into our most inhumane houses

they're all hellbent on revenge against yharim which is why they help us, they know we have plot armour and will kill yharim

[swift wigeon]

• Angler got eaten by a thrasher/lost at sea
• Amidas got eaten by a giant clam
• Calamitas was previously living in a cave
• Permafrost was trapped withim Cryogen
• The merchent simply moves in because there is pretty much nobody outside of your town to sell to
• The arms dealer moves in to sell you gun supplies once you get a gun
• The nurse moves in because the arms dealer does
• The Witch Doctor lived within the Lihzarhd Temple
• The Goblin Tinkerer was tied up and abandoned by the Goblin Army when they invade
• The mechanic was trapped in the dungeon
• The steampunker moves in because she discovers you after you destroy one of the mechs
  Etc. They aren't all homeless per say, they all have unique reasons for moving in

It should also be noted that the mechanic likely lived in the Mechanic's Shed prior to being captured

[true prawn]

So, I got a question. How big was Ilmeris at it's peak? I'm doing a ruins of Ilmeris build and scaling it is frustratingly ambiguous.

[swift wigeon]

The size of the Sunken Sea I imagine

[true prawn]

Noted

[dusk laurel]

Nah

[spare pier]

The Sunken Sea is what is left of Ilmeris

[dusk laurel]

Way larger

[true prawn]

noted

[wheat zealot]

this means france existd in cal

[sinful adder]

The mechanic had a house, until very recently

[swift wigeon]

What did you do?

WHAT DID YOU DO?!!

[sinful adder]

lol. We don't know what happened exactly, but the mechanic had a house in the snow biome with a caved in roof, but all the furniture is intact

[swift wigeon]

Oh

[sinful adder]

it's possible that she was kidnapped from there, or possible that she got trapped and the house fell into disrepair in her absence

[swift wigeon]

I thought you were insinuating that you blew up the mechanic's house with a fucking ballistic missle or something

[sinful adder]

funny

[frozen zodiac]

i love the idea that building houses in a matter of hours could just be a skill the terrarian has, like yeah they're willing to fight the gods to avenge everyone that fell but also "oh there's someone willing to live here?"

https://tenor.com/view/wallace-and-gromit-hammer-meme-gif-27192359

[sinful adder]

I do think it's pretty funny

[ionic harness]

Aido

[sinful adder]

They can build anything, easily

[spring helm]

Here’s the Guide’s opinion on my Terrarian building the town

[sinful adder]

Neat

I think it kind of makes sense from the perspective of Mark. Building houses in terraria is like building a painting, with the town NPC being the centerpiece or subject of the painting