#lore-discussion
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So I gave example of the other way round
he's gonna live forever and he accepted that
God suicide when
Ngl
what if god used a fist to do it...
Xeroc kinda got absurdly lucky
Btw, how is xeroc stronger than zaratros btw, I thought you gained about 3/4 of the original dragon’s powers
no?
be a godfist suicide
Imagine if the ritual didn’t work as he thought it would
i really wanna know what sources you smoking
and he just turned into some horrible creature
I said I thought 
like a true gambler, xeroc risked it all and walked away with a xerocillion bucks
or exploded and got splattered all across the world as photons (cuz light) or just self aware ash or something
true
Strong as fuck, with just control of normal sunlight alone is country to continental calced by omni
Yharim is like country level and they’re relative to zeratros iirc
turned into a rock
please don't be a power scaler
Omni did the calc
CHina?
nah
We aren’t on earth
the Country of Yharim
They world is called terraria
he on that terrariastan
yharimgrad
The continent were on is unnamed but cei calls it heartlands
indonesia>>>>>>>> (unbiased opinion)
grad means city
the world is completely different except sweden
I have an idea of how I personally think Zeratros looked, similar to just kind of his original form
sweden is identical to our world
shut up i know
I call it the farlands
But he can heavily alter his appearance with light
Ze Rock
in terraria the state of nebraska is a sovereign country
literally sounds like it
Like he is literally just made of it, but keeps a form that is similar to what he looked like originally
So did xeroc already had existing power and zaratros’ soul just added to that
real
nah
(Until Fovos)
id guess xeroc was just like a monk
Yeah he was yharon level iirc (probably the weaker unskilled yharon before crusade)
maybe like he was a bit stronger than an average guy cuz of like duties and maybe traditions and stuff
yharim*
but the ascension prolly gave most of the power
I’d say Yharon was.. skilled
i thought he was around yharim's strength
just less so
maybe i misremembered from dev statements
More around Yharon’s
I mean it’s not like the power difference of yharon and Yharim is huge
lol
Mmm, iirc, all the dragons including zaratros had struggled to fight fovos and basically could only seal him away?
Does deleting the world make you universe level
Cool
Just decided to use communicate button
Like
Imo I’d put itas
If like, all the dragons struggled against fovos, how does xeroc fair better
Xeroc beats fovos
I don’t talk about the terrarian, I talk about you
Then this image is to be referred to
I see
the player is the most poweerful being in all of terraria
What if I don’t hate
they can just delete the files of the creatures they dont like
Then it’s incorrect
I am big boss, and you are too
How the dragons fought Fovos is unknown
No,hes the two of us together
Fire in the hole ig
No?
also how many dragons were actually killed is also unknown
^
how many were even above the average strength is even more unknown
Where we are today we built it
this story this legend its ours
And realistically
like I said earlier
all you need to do to take out the average auric dragon
No thanks
is have an attack that is above how much an eidolon wyrm can take before dying
the more it is the more the above average becomes the average
carry that with you wherever you go,Thank you my friend from here on out Your big boss
What is this guy talking about
what guy
me?
yes
what we know is the dragons had a bad time
and that Zeratros was dying
and Fovos was sealed
im quoting Metal Gear Solid V:THe Phantom PAin
And that zeratros was going to oerma die
(Probably the worst MGS)
I assume the dragons tried to physically fight it
not clear
Considering the losses
the dragons shouldve hired the terrarian as a merc smh
There’s nothing to say it’s the same as Yharon
Unfortunately or fortunately he was saved by todays sponsor
NordVPN
maybe
But also consider this
The best way to kill gods is to make them commit suicide
Life
Oversimplified no!
that could be used
the dragon of m,ilk and killing no one
Yharon being the second strongest dragon
i would make a joke about eating people but ion wanna be weird
summon shit to attack fovos
Being the second strongest now
nothing was to say he was in the past
Well, they are dragons, they have fire
Yharon more so retrofitted his domain to have use in combat
calcium 💪💪
Phoenix’s are associated with flames
With the whole
Hmm
"Burning your life away for a power boost" shtick
I didn’t think about the phoenix as literal
What’s the auric soul that providence consumed, bisexuality? 
Provi isn't bi tho.............
Or similar to
flame
“Rise from the ashes”
Nah she consumed the lesbiab one
Or come back from the flames
reborn in sigma
Flames
mods, destroy him
That’d be neat
if i had an auric soul tid be that one
im gay as shit
It is the case
It’d be a creative way for Yharon to figure out fighting
oh wait that's fish
for his fucking life 
And the attack that harms him I imagine
Yharon is literally burning his life away while fighting you, that's why Phase 2 is happening in the first place
the what
makes sense
He eats worms
What is the lore implications of the Signus fight lasting for three seconds?
Yummers
Is that why for providence, the air is burning while for yharon, he just upped the thermostat by 3 degrees?
But Yharon also tbf has a reason to figure out how to use his domain like that
I don’t believe many other dragons would
Like, yharon’s main power isn’t fire, is it
Probably? Yharon does have stronger fire though
It is seemingly the magic he uses
but his main power is
Rebirth
Considering it’s his domain
Or he is activating his rebirth in a phoenix way
I mean how his domain works
is kinda unknown lol
or well not fully explored
Not like Yharon is gonna tell us
Or Yharim probably
Cal lore cool
Well Yharon is sort of dead
So what Yharon does is that he weaponized his rebirth domain by burning himself (losing life powers him or smth)
Right?
Yharon can’t speak, can he, that’s not actually him singing roar of the jungle dragon right 
I assume it just literally starts to kill him
it is
but that doesn’t particularly matter when you’re him
how tf would he tell yharim how bad the gods were
yharon would be one of the few people
Nah that is Yharon’s voice, dokuro tried his best to imitate
write a book?
Ornthings
who could use their own life as a sacrifice for power
and not have dying being the worst repercussion

Dm Dokuro is the dragon of rebirth!?
I would like to make a addon where you fight god champion Yharim from and alternate timeline
Hmm
That got me thinking
How strong could’ve Yharim been if he did consume Yharon
Probably weaker Imo
same but with auric/azafure soil plantera instead
“Destiny is for the weak”
🙏
And I’d like that to be not only metaphorical, but also literal
Yharim just ending up weaker than he is now
He could’ve become the spokesperson of the elitist god fanclub ™️
No doubt one of the stronger gods realistically
He would prob be among the strongest due to yharon being strong
But I imagine he is stronger not taking soul
but still worse off than he is now
The only real issue Yharim has is
well
ironically enough
a lack of time
Hi silvaheart
Yharim wouldn't be able to live with absorbing Yharon's Soul
He would probably rather end himself than do that
nerd
if he did Idk if he could actually end his life depending on his domain
This is hypotethically if he didn’t refuse
Would be a cruel twist of fate
Did yharim basically “fell off” in the aftermath of the crusades or did he like continue to seek power
Or just like took work leave
Did he retire is his question I think
I doubt he ever would
i don't think he would try just killing himself but he would just be very guilty and not really sad but ig sad
or even can
The aerie turned from a hospital to a retirement home smh…
He probably would
Like I thought yharim would just be like out of shape and lose his touch a little due to falling into a deep depression after the failure of the crusade
Not really
That would betray ALL of his morals
He’s thugging it out
bros been thugging it out for 30-70 years fr
More like 100
what..
What
that’s just not true
I thought he’s just like this now
Where did you get that silva
i didn't want some nerd to go and tell me that the crusade ended like a year ago or some shit man
The exo mechs are based off his strength a few months ago
he has grown stronger since
Cosmatic Mango 
I mean the terrarian is also very weak if it weren’t for the equipment
-# melon don’t you DARE
The fact that Yharim might aswell be dead without the armor
What r u implying
like he got a darth vader setup??
Very sure one of the lore writers stated that here
I am definitely spending my time adequately
I thought that stuff was just fan art
I was asking what they were talking about
I like this a lot!
Thanks!
this looks cool
yes very good time spending, definetely official dragon art very useful
Ye, but it reminded of like a fan art that sounds exactly like what they’re talking bout
Ehhh not official
By uhhhh, Haydenator
I think it’s a wyvern?
It's great to know it looks like one
Yharims armor atp is very helpful
but it’s seemingly more of a defensive thing
rather than improvements on his strength
Probably gives higher stamina I imagine
I don’t see how it would
Thanks to Exo prisms endless energy
what if phase 2 yharim throws off his armor and his defense drops to nothing but he's like 20 times as strong fr
He would get weaker
I think that rather powers
the upgrades
rather than boost yharim himself
nerd
Hey I need help with something because I can't think of it
That’s like you taking off your armour in terraria
You get weaker
please no
Do any of you have a defensive interpretation of fire?
I headcanon the armor gives him thrusters in various places to boost jump, punch in extreme speeds etc
Fire wall
A wall of flames
It’s cool fan art but I don’t think canon yharim’s like that, he’s still mostly man I think
Man…
but also depends
for what and who
Appeared Fast enough and it can be a explosion to repel things iirc
One person
Are they immune to their own flames
Yes, they are
or resistant
Fire wall
then igniting themselves in it
Mean, fire can be like a painful shield to punch through for the opponent if they’re not immune to it
or coating armor
Is it reasonable that Yharim could grab objects and turn them into unstable miracle matter that can be tossed
Spontanously combusts
if hit the fire could theoretically extend onto the person/object that does it
fire is bright af so maybe like it just covers them and some space around them and they can move freely in that space and you can't see them doing it cuz they're in the bright fire
probably not
Ok I have enough ideas
Hope we helped
He has exo tech tho…
five fire walls
so does draedon
have a good one
did draedon ever make miracle matter
Yeah and the blender beam from ares is unstable miracle matter
We stabilised it
No but the exo mechs create unstable version of it as a byproduct
dude
the exo mechs
as an accident
and it fucks their insides up
The Terrarian is a Hardmode, post-Moon Lord yoyo that fires green, short-lived projectiles at a rapid rate, which home in on nearby enemies and bounces off solid blocks while in use. The Terrarian also has a base 14% critical strike chance as opposed to the usual 4%. The Terrarian has a 2/9 (22.22%) chance of being dropped by the Moon Lord, and is the most powerful yoyo in the game.
they're all metal and stuff
I wonder if Yharim would be South American or Hispanic
how would yharim handle that
Could be that Yharim found it out by accident
terrarian
And now weaponizes it
Auric
nerd
”Huh if I channel this exo energy to this rock it fucking melts into this goop”
We’re all nerds here
no
Leave if you don’t like nerds
Whatever I’m gonna write him doing that >:3
miracle matter is a lot of random shit you magically combine in the exact proper way
I like nerds 
That’s the stabilised version
Yes that’s stable miracle matter
IHATEHEADCANNONSIHATEHEADCANNONSIHATEHEADCANNONS
what about unstable miracle matter
It’s unstable
what about superstition matter tho
I headcanon that Yharim’s favorite show is the Big Bang theory
No shit

I’m gonna write that Yharim can turn objects to it and toss it around

i headcanon that you stink
Womp womp
Also headcanons are amazing
They aren’t Garbo
I headcanon that headcanon

I love hearing people’s interpretations of stuff we don’t have answers on
Same
For a ranged attack, Yharim will throw a chunk of Auric Ore at the player.
Wait, does yharim’s suit have some sorta Midas touch except its miracle matter
ngl
He has Exo tech in his armour
No
I kinda imagine yharim being strong enough that
I meant he’s already doing that in eternity mode

even with auric rejection trying to push you away
It has exo tech so I thought he could do that if he wanted
he can actually just grab you
what if yharim forcefeeds you auric ore
You die
Can you actually eat the rock
I’m pretty sure your arm will be ripped off then
Or whatever he grabs you on
Tooltip tells me not to but
crushing u and also constant auric rejection
you’re literally cooked
Instant death
one idea i had is just
Fair
a face grab after launching himself at you
That’s a gruesome death
basically grabs you and it does constant damage until you get slammed into a wall
What y’all think yharim’s build like, is it like strong man build or your typical Greek god with abs you can grate cheese on
and his grip is strong enough to hold your head while being rejected
so you don’t go flying from first contact
Always felt that yharim’s more of a bulky kinda guy rather than body builder shape
Does someone have the official yharim art
The pins do.
Think that’s what they’re going for
He is a wide man
Aight
peak
Lore pins don’t :/
i'd guess like
fat jacked
or something
Third one.
peak male performance type shit
what new design
Consider he’s 8’1
Our whole universe was in a hot dense state
There is another image which puts him next to Calamitas, which shows his scale properly. I'll try to find it.
that's definitely not official fr......
Found it.
Feel like the shoulder pads should be facing up more
It is
It is.
Why tf is he so fucking big 😭
Because he is 8 foot 1 and built large
How insecure is he to have fake abs
his huge hip takes up all the space
Man baby
Cal looks frustrated
Babyman
I don't know what you would expect from someone in a nine foot tall suit of armour.
She was forced to stand beside him
nah he had normal armor but his huge abs pushed through it
Draedon made it for him so it’s draedon not yharim
Yummers
Draedon didn't make it.
Also yharim has more hair then scal does body
Simply modified it.
So does that mean yharim is WIP?
Yeah and the fake abs are the Exo tech part
No he is still years away
I don’t think that’s hair
Soma prime should have an upgrade after post Noxus and should be called Noxus Prime

He did get out in lava
I have a theory
No it’s like those helmet things
proper waxed hair
Yharim is gabriel ultrakill
What are they called
Take off his helmet and expose the back of his head and it’s exactly like calamitas plush
Like what romans had
That’s obviously draedon
Crista
And angry because you woke her up
(Popcorns cal pluhs)
Scar
nahhhhhhh
They are scars
°ʌ°
Heave
Is he stupid???
why would he
Armour
how would he make armor
Draedon only left recently so he def could have
He does.
Isomamiac Yharon putting on his auric suit to fight the terraria in his century old career
norway
humorous
Auric trims
You can see it in the sprite too, the Auric wingplates still exist.
Can't have more or else he wouldn't be able to fly.
Baldlamitas
like the claws and the horns
Popcorn finger reveal
why not
heavy as fuck
Erm 10 actually
Resprite coming soon in a Calamity near you
also lack of freedom for the wings to flap
It’s only 3 Fabsol days away
didnt Auric was used because it has some lightweight properties
Tbh i am sure auric metal is light

Variable mass metal
Wha
i think Yharon would be cool if he has a helmet
(so his horns fit very naturally)
If you're attuned it's light as a feather but otherwise it's heavier than tungsten
Or smth
Nah, but he should have some bling I agree
okay but he has an Auric soul tho
Player in question
you know what I mean

stinkkuuu
If tungsten is so heavy, why can I double jump with a cloud in a bottle wearing a full set of it

Maybe all the Auric was used by other people, and the only Auric Yharim had access to wasn't enough for a full suit.
Wingplates.

Yharim with the shadowspec collar and stuff in the sprite
Is shadowspec canon?
No
no
Erm that's clearly amethyst
not as of rn
no thats clealy grape

Your both wrong
That’s clearly a fisher price toy collars
Shadowspec is very dark purple.
That is just purple.

Old sprites be weird
Imagine post yharim auric set
Crafted with auric bars
Yharon souls fragments
Exo prisms
And yharims flesh

Permafrost did
Idrk how Yharim will give us any really
What in hell is adhd paralysis
direct access to upgrades
Tyranny's end now drops from him
Yharessence
Hey vanillin
Hello vanillin
just why

Idk
Alexey going 1 day without talking about Yharim’s flesh and eating it challenge
Fine yharim bones
Alexey try not to cannibalise calamity challange impossible

As his weapon idk
Yharim pulls out the zenith for his sword
Melee will be ultraduperop melee 100% no zenth6
Please don’t elaborate
You will need 3999 of each material to craft one piece
craft what
Yharim armor
Sure sure
Imagine yharim would just delete ur world then you lose
Or maybe
Even delete terraria from ur steam account
can we skin all non-moonlord believers?
Yes
-guy with a moon lord pfp
What is that?
I think it got rejected and is a fan work
Maybe
As i said idk
I just kinda like hiw it looks
Cal is like in torture mechanism or smth
I’m writing it so that my character knits and sews a lot :3
No that’s not how it is
it's a rejected fan resprite.
Oh ok
Its Cal-10
this is true
was submitted in asset-submissions in calart and was rejected, yes
Yharim is intended to be like the final final boss right?
kinda
^
May cause they aren’t garunteed
really hope they do though :)
Same
Wow I just passed 10k words

This is getting unreasonably long
wirefull device
look inside
wireless

More
mobile wont let me see how many messages ive sent
Wireless mouse
Dissects mouse
Organs and arteries
29,703
hahaahha I have more messages than yoy!
Wbwbee
less in lroe disc tho...
the true and one supreme loremaster
Jank is the true lore writer
I have more messages in the Calamity Developer Server than most people in this channel.
vro what
I'm sure someone has more than me in here
I hope...
I will remove your left knee cap surgically
What?
(I assume u work on some addon)
wym calamity developer server 😭
how da heell did they even get you in there
Caldev moment...
Why would an addon developer be in Calamity's developer Discord?
is it patreon server
no
its not public is it?
No.
The fuck you mean you have a message in Dev? 
I am totally telling the truth.
Misinformation? Where?
Bro is seeking knowledge
Cal plush and bottle
Pour the water from the bottle onto her. Drown her.
No
Drown her via bath
Yes show a vid of pelting her in the bath water

Incorrect.
I never lie.
Fellas
Yeah?
Its pressing against my appendix owwwww it hurts /j
what
What
what.
oh fr my appendix was removed
Do you only speak in paradoxes?
whats the Pinocchio one
if he says he will tell a lie or if he will tell a truth i forgor
If Pinocchio tells a lie, his nose gets longer.
right but if he says "i will tell a lie" or maybe it was "my nose will grow" what happens
Hey Cei, is the skeleton merchant canon
because if it's true his nose doesnt grow because its true
but then he lied because it didnt grow
Impossible to resolve, depends on how the nose enchantment resolves logical paradoxes
Maybe a statement can be neither true nor false and it ignores these situations
how high does the enchant go
They're not a lie and not a truth
III?
and can i get it from an enchant table or do i have to get it from villagers
i don't believe you
Uhhhh
Yes
Yeah that seems correct
Is there anything in-game that contradicts their existence?
Necromancy not being that great at reviving someone even for the likes of scal
And yet these ones are completely perfectly human and not murder monsters
Less so contradictory and just they’re a anomaly from what we know of necromancy
They could just be controlled by someone.
Anomalies are cool
Like the planned acid tier 3 enemy 

Also hello reb
On another note I think the Skeleton Merchant isn't actually a case of necromancy being really good
Rather
A necromantic construct that gained sentience
It isn't bound to anyone, so it kinda just
Learned
So less of a revival and more so re using the body for a new life?
Yeah, kinda
They are a form of necromancy that appears to result in a stable, sapient being. In other words, successful necromancy
Ah ok
Oh, sorry for the ping
This could make sense. Though. My guess is that it's a case of necromancy where the original soul was left intact and shoved back in, and that leads to successful necromancy
What else could it be then
The Skeleton Merchant has no dialogue saying or even implying knowledge of a previous life, so I'd still say it isn't revived, and still is just necromancy.
I
As said just like, a necromantic construct
worded that badly
Not necessarily undead
Successful necromancy to me is a complete nono
Even if it literally only happens because of dumb luck
To put it in a different way, there is no evidence to suggest the necromancy performed was perfect.
I feel like successful necromancy is why yharon only revived dragons
Needs something normal beings intrinsically don’t have
Didn't we already talk about how Yharon's revival worked?
Isn’t it said to be that sepulchre is like how yharon does it in the bestiary
Or am I going insane
Nah mentions it’s inspired
Necromancy was originally an attempt to recreate Yharon's power of revival. However, it was never perfected. This is said in Sepulchre's bestiary entry.
Yharon doesn't revive anyone
He is capable of reincarnating their souls
Yharon births all the Auric Dragons.
It's not a perfect rebirth, that's something only he can do
Shut up
You cannot deny the truth.
I take it a unsuccessful rebirth would look catastrophicly bad
I want to say more cursed stuff, but I really do not want to push it.
Because here's a really fucking funny wording
I thought it was saying that the sepulchre was inspired by the way yharon rebirths beings
What would happen if you tried the "soul reincarnation" necromancy on the body the soul originally came from?
Zeratros himself was gravely injured. It seemed his power, along with his life, would be lost forever.
Hmmmm
Yeah rebirth doesn’t carry the power to other lives
I didn't say that
Thought that implied it
I thought yharim was just wrong about this
Zeratros had fought Moon Lord, and this situation is specifically pointed as terrible
Could Moon Lord disable Yharon's rebirth power, somehow?
But I suppose this means that his soul would return, but without its power
ML must have done something for it to be this bad
It’s past midnight so I have lost what intellect I had so sorry for my future dumbness
Either that or ML has soul destruction power
That's something I've been thinking about
You will be put to sleep
It's so fucking funny how Moon Lord's Bestiary LITERALLY ANSWERS ALL OF THIS 
It’s for good reason
Amazing.

Looking forward to it
Can't wait.
As I said
_ _
Moon Lord's Bestiary is probably the second most important in the entire game
Can’t wait for omni to scale moonlord in sso
behind NT 
It answers how its power works and where it comes from
Literally. I only have a few days left on this mortal realm, before my power disrupts this universe.
where it WHAT
So much text to read
This is how you get me reading shit
There really isn't anywhere to mention that, so
I wonder what the Pillar entries will talk about.
The Moon Lord is kind of a fucking enigma to everyone on the planet
So the only place we can talk about it is its Bestiary, which is why I chose to just
Drop everything there
lore dump
Makes sense
My theory is that the fact that this is important means that Fovos is from the distortion and it's power is that it consumes auric essence
Just appears, destroys a civilisation, kills half the dragons, then gets sealed on the moon for a millenia.
And that noxus is some kind of baby fovos
The only person in the entire planet who could maybe talk about the Moon Lord is Cultist
But I have more things I want Cultist to talk about so
bestiary?
Something tells me Lunatic Cultist isn't the type to talk.
or dialogue
Cultist will talk? Possibly?
Plus I think it's kind of a stretch to say that the Cultist somehow studied the Moon Lord's anatomy or some shit
And I mean Forsaken Archives 
Lunatic cultist brain blasting us with the lunatic yap mid fight
Yay
I wonder how many books the Forsaken Archives will have.
Atleast a few
I have ideas for 2 at least
One of them being
Ok have you ever asked yourselves what the fuck is the Stratus set?
Yeah I came up with something for that
No I have just kinda always seen them as weird weapons I don’t use
And I think it's Pretty Cool
Though yeah they prob can have some decently good shit
Moonlord potential tie thanks to exodium and polter tie thanks to the ruinous soul
I came up today with an explanation for Night Provi I think nothing is beyond my grasp by this point 
Granted if my idea goes through it uh

Kinda stops being Night Provi
moon lord crealy comes from Twistation
My problem was always that there were very few ways of making it work without making so Providence actually didn't fight you at full power
Which sucks
I don't want to make Provi go back to the "she wasn't fighting you at full power" shtick, much less right after you fight a Boss who wasn't at full power
Maybe have it be an unnatural side effect from moonlord death is a possibility
So not even she is aware of night form
My solution is quite simple
Ok, she actually is a little weaker when you fight her
But due to something she herself did, and followed by uh
You being a dumbass 
Why are we dumbass if it weakened her whatever we did
Exactly
My idea is that you, as the player
Managed to weaken her a little bit
Night Provi is you willingly giving her that power back
We throw the Profaned Core at her during night, clearly.
It's you literally forsaking an advantage you acquired for a better fight
Actually you just
That would entail that providence is legit like dog level normally or something which is a tad terrifying thinking about it
Guessed it 
whar
But not at night
we guessing lore with this one
I did that because I didn't want Night Provi to be a massive loop to get to
The idea is that you quite literally just
Give the Core back to her
damn we pull a Goku
Nah the opposite
"Oh my bad Providence you can have this back. Don't fight anymore okay?"
"Oh no she's stronger."
Except for night form
You have the Core. You killed the Guardians for it. You have a small shard of Providence's power in your literal hands and she cannot take it from you unless she kills you.
So you give it back to her
And of course
She gets stronger
The smartest decision ever
and then we're friends now right
If it is no longer technically Night Form, then why does she inflict Nightwither?
The terrarian has a record 
We made Voidfrost for a reason
Voidfrost... Interesting...
Well, we made Voidfrost because Nightwither was in a really fucking weird spot

New cold debuff.
Being both a counterpart to Daybroken and Holy Flames
And this made Nightwither really fucking annoying to balance
Would it be used for Stratus items?
I thought Voidfrost was already common knowledge????
this is new to me
I thought it was a weapon
One changelog that did not explain anything.
^
Some people thought it was a donator item from the backlog.

