#lore-discussion

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mighty zenith
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that doesnt mean he cant be ageless

split mortar
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So I gave example of the other way round

mighty zenith
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he's gonna live forever and he accepted that

wheat zealot
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God suicide when

sleek halo
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Ngl

fading sun
sleek halo
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Xeroc kinda got absurdly lucky

normal leaf
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Btw, how is xeroc stronger than zaratros btw, I thought you gained about 3/4 of the original dragon’s powers

fading sun
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would it

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perhaps

fading sun
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be a godfist suicide

sleek halo
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Imagine if the ritual didn’t work as he thought it would

fading sun
sleek halo
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and he just turned into some horrible creature

normal leaf
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I said I thought boohoo

mighty zenith
fading sun
split mortar
scenic olive
wheat zealot
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What country is yharim like

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the USA?

split mortar
wheat zealot
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CHina?

fading sun
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nah

split mortar
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We aren’t on earth

scenic olive
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the Country of Yharim

split mortar
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They world is called terraria

fading sun
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he on that terrariastan

fading sun
normal leaf
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I mean, statis is Filipino which implies that the Philippines exists

split mortar
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The continent were on is unnamed but cei calls it heartlands

fading sun
wheat zealot
mighty zenith
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the world is completely different except sweden

sleek halo
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I have an idea of how I personally think Zeratros looked, similar to just kind of his original form

mighty zenith
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sweden is identical to our world

fading sun
scenic olive
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I call it the farlands

sleek halo
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But he can heavily alter his appearance with light

scenic olive
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Maybe Xeroc is just a rock

fading sun
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Ze Rock

wheat zealot
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in terraria the state of nebraska is a sovereign country

fading sun
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literally sounds like it

sleek halo
normal leaf
fading sun
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id guess xeroc was just like a monk

split mortar
fading sun
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maybe like he was a bit stronger than an average guy cuz of like duties and maybe traditions and stuff

fading sun
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but the ascension prolly gave most of the power

split mortar
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I’m talking about xeroc

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Not zeratros

mighty zenith
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i thought he was around yharim's strength

sleek halo
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just less so

mighty zenith
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maybe i misremembered from dev statements

sleek halo
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I mean it’s not like the power difference of yharon and Yharim is huge

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lol

normal leaf
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Mmm, iirc, all the dragons including zaratros had struggled to fight fovos and basically could only seal him away?

untold oracle
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Does deleting the world make you universe level

frank dune
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Yharim never let anyone to aerie?

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Also hello everyon

split mortar
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Hello

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New people here

frank dune
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Cool

split mortar
frank dune
scenic olive
sleek halo
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Imo I’d put itas

normal leaf
split mortar
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Xeroc beats fovos

untold oracle
split mortar
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Then this image is to be referred to

untold oracle
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I see

wheat zealot
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the player is the most poweerful being in all of terraria

untold oracle
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What if I don’t hate

wheat zealot
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they can just delete the files of the creatures they dont like

untold oracle
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Then it’s incorrect

normal leaf
sleek halo
fading sun
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wait what

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why

wheat zealot
untold oracle
fading sun
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isn't the terrarian lorei mage

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pinned

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???????

split mortar
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No?

sleek halo
split mortar
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^

sleek halo
wheat zealot
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this story this legend its ours

sleek halo
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And realistically

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like I said earlier

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all you need to do to take out the average auric dragon

wheat zealot
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we can change the world and with it the future

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i am you and you are me

split mortar
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No thanks

sleek halo
fading sun
wheat zealot
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carry that with you wherever you go,Thank you my friend from here on out Your big boss

untold oracle
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What is this guy talking about

fading sun
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what guy

wheat zealot
sleek halo
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At the end of the day

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much is unknown of what Fovos did

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or what happened

untold oracle
sleek halo
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what we know is the dragons had a bad time

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and that Zeratros was dying

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and Fovos was sealed

wheat zealot
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im quoting Metal Gear Solid V:THe Phantom PAin

split mortar
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And that zeratros was going to oerma die

wheat zealot
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(Probably the worst MGS)

untold oracle
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I assume the dragons tried to physically fight it

sleek halo
untold oracle
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Considering the losses

sleek halo
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But potentially

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Tbf we don’t know how rebirth on other dragons work

untold oracle
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The dragons should’ve modernized ngl

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Cyber warfare

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Hack Fovos’ internet

wheat zealot
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the dragons shouldve hired the terrarian as a merc smh

sleek halo
wheat zealot
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Psychologoical warfare

normal leaf
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NordVPN

sleek halo
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But also consider this

wheat zealot
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The best way to kill gods is to make them commit suicide

sleek halo
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a lot of domains

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are likely not suited for combat

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Like idk

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Rebirth

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Gluttony

split mortar
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Life

untold oracle
sleek halo
wheat zealot
split mortar
fading sun
fading sun
sleek halo
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nothing was to say he was in the past

untold oracle
spare pier
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Yharon more so retrofitted his domain to have use in combat

fading sun
sleek halo
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Yharon is a phoenix

split mortar
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Hey Rebecca

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Have a good day

sleek halo
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Phoenix’s are associated with flames

spare pier
untold oracle
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Hmm

spare pier
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"Burning your life away for a power boost" shtick

untold oracle
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I didn’t think about the phoenix as literal

normal leaf
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What’s the auric soul that providence consumed, bisexuality? clueless

sleek halo
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Yharon was literally

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reborn in magma

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as in

spare pier
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Provi isn't bi tho.............

sleek halo
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Or similar to

sleek halo
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“Rise from the ashes”

untold oracle
sleek halo
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Or come back from the flames

fading sun
sleek halo
deft vessel
sleek halo
wheat zealot
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im gay as shit

split mortar
sleek halo
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It’d be a creative way for Yharon to figure out fighting

spare pier
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Yeah

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That's why Phase 2 happens

sleek halo
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During the centuries

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of fighting

fading sun
sleek halo
split mortar
spare pier
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Yharon is literally burning his life away while fighting you, that's why Phase 2 is happening in the first place

fading sun
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the what

untold oracle
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You are with them now

split mortar
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In the eel pit

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Blob monster why are you named that

untold oracle
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He eats worms

deft vessel
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What is the lore implications of the Signus fight lasting for three seconds?

untold oracle
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Yummers

normal leaf
# split mortar Flames

Is that why for providence, the air is burning while for yharon, he just upped the thermostat by 3 degrees?

sleek halo
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I don’t believe many other dragons would

normal leaf
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Like, yharon’s main power isn’t fire, is it

split mortar
sleek halo
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but his main power is

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Rebirth

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Considering it’s his domain

deft vessel
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Or he is activating his rebirth in a phoenix way

sleek halo
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I mean how his domain works

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is kinda unknown lol

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or well not fully explored

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Not like Yharon is gonna tell us

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Or Yharim probably

split mortar
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Cal lore cool

deft vessel
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Well Yharon is sort of dead

sleek halo
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For now

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But he will come back

untold oracle
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So what Yharon does is that he weaponized his rebirth domain by burning himself (losing life powers him or smth)

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Right?

normal leaf
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Yharon can’t speak, can he, that’s not actually him singing roar of the jungle dragon right clueless

sleek halo
sleek halo
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but that doesn’t particularly matter when you’re him

fading sun
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how tf would he tell yharim how bad the gods were

sleek halo
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yharon would be one of the few people

untold oracle
fading sun
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write a book?

sleek halo
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Ornthings

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who could use their own life as a sacrifice for power

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and not have dying being the worst repercussion

normal leaf
deft vessel
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I would like to make a addon where you fight god champion Yharim from and alternate timeline

sleek halo
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I kinda imagine yharon while in phase 2 is closer or equalish

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to scal and the mechs

untold oracle
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That got me thinking

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How strong could’ve Yharim been if he did consume Yharon

sleek halo
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Probably weaker Imo

fading sun
sleek halo
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“Destiny is for the weak”

fading sun
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🙏

sleek halo
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And I’d like that to be not only metaphorical, but also literal

sleek halo
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Yharim just ending up weaker than he is now

untold oracle
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He could’ve become the spokesperson of the elitist god fanclub ™️

sleek halo
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No doubt one of the stronger gods realistically

split mortar
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He would prob be among the strongest due to yharon being strong

But I imagine he is stronger not taking soul

sleek halo
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The only real issue Yharim has is

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well

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ironically enough

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a lack of time

untold oracle
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Hi silvaheart

proven rivet
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Yharim wouldn't be able to live with absorbing Yharon's Soul

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He would probably rather end himself than do that

fading sun
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nerd

sleek halo
untold oracle
sleek halo
normal leaf
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Did yharim basically “fell off” in the aftermath of the crusades or did he like continue to seek power

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Or just like took work leave

sleek halo
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What do you mean

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I mean Yharim rn is at his peak of strength physically

untold oracle
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Did he retire is his question I think

sleek halo
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I doubt he ever would

fading sun
sleek halo
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or even can

untold oracle
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The aerie turned from a hospital to a retirement home smh…

normal leaf
untold oracle
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That would betray ALL of his morals

sleek halo
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Well physically

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He is at his peak

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mentally however….

untold oracle
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He’s thugging it out

split mortar
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Yeah physically he hasn’t been stronger

Mentally

fading sun
proven rivet
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Yharim isn't at his peak

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Its almost entirely his armor by now

split mortar
sleek halo
split mortar
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What

sleek halo
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that’s just not true

normal leaf
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I thought he’s just like this now

split mortar
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Where did you get that silva

fading sun
sleek halo
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The exo mechs are based off his strength a few months ago

sleek halo
normal leaf
untold oracle
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-# melon don’t you DARE

proven rivet
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The fact that Yharim might aswell be dead without the armor

split mortar
sleek halo
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like he got a darth vader setup??

proven rivet
cosmic zenith
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I am definitely spending my time adequately

normal leaf
cosmic zenith
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?

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Yharim wouldn't die without the armor

sleek halo
untold oracle
cosmic zenith
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Thanks!

sleek halo
fading sun
normal leaf
cosmic zenith
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Ehhh not official

normal leaf
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By uhhhh, Haydenator

untold oracle
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I think it’s a wyvern?

cosmic zenith
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It's great to know it looks like one

sleek halo
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Yharims armor atp is very helpful

sleek halo
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rather than improvements on his strength

split mortar
sleek halo
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I don’t see how it would

split mortar
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Thanks to Exo prisms endless energy

fading sun
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what if phase 2 yharim throws off his armor and his defense drops to nothing but he's like 20 times as strong fr

split mortar
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He would get weaker

sleek halo
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the upgrades

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rather than boost yharim himself

fading sun
spare pier
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Hey I need help with something because I can't think of it

normal leaf
split mortar
spare pier
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Do any of you have a defensive interpretation of fire?

untold oracle
sleek halo
normal leaf
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It’s cool fan art but I don’t think canon yharim’s like that, he’s still mostly man I think

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Man…

sleek halo
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for what and who

split mortar
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Appeared Fast enough and it can be a explosion to repel things iirc

sleek halo
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is it a group of ppl

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is it a singular person

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an city

spare pier
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One person

sleek halo
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Are they immune to their own flames

fading sun
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fire aura

spare pier
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Yes, they are

sleek halo
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or resistant

deft vessel
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Fire wall

sleek halo
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then igniting themselves in it

normal leaf
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Mean, fire can be like a painful shield to punch through for the opponent if they’re not immune to it

sleek halo
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or coating armor

untold oracle
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Is it reasonable that Yharim could grab objects and turn them into unstable miracle matter that can be tossed

deft vessel
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Spontanously combusts

sleek halo
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if hit the fire could theoretically extend onto the person/object that does it

fading sun
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fire is bright af so maybe like it just covers them and some space around them and they can move freely in that space and you can't see them doing it cuz they're in the bright fire

spare pier
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Ok I have enough ideas

split mortar
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Hope we helped

untold oracle
fading sun
fading sun
sleek halo
fading sun
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did draedon ever make miracle matter

split mortar
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We stabilised it

untold oracle
fading sun
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the exo mechs

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as an accident

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and it fucks their insides up

proven rivet
# fading sun

The Terrarian is a Hardmode, post-Moon Lord yoyo that fires green, short-lived projectiles at a rapid rate, which home in on nearby enemies and bounces off solid blocks while in use. The Terrarian also has a base 14% critical strike chance as opposed to the usual 4%. The Terrarian has a 2/9 (22.22%) chance of being dropped by the Moon Lord, and is the most powerful yoyo in the game.

fading sun
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they're all metal and stuff

normal leaf
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I wonder if Yharim would be South American or Hispanic

fading sun
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how would yharim handle that

untold oracle
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Could be that Yharim found it out by accident

untold oracle
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And now weaponizes it

fading sun
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why

untold oracle
fading sun
untold oracle
# fading sun why

”Huh if I channel this exo energy to this rock it fucking melts into this goop”

split mortar
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We’re all nerds here

split mortar
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Leave if you don’t like nerds

untold oracle
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Whatever I’m gonna write him doing that >:3

fading sun
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miracle matter is a lot of random shit you magically combine in the exact proper way

normal leaf
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I like nerds nothoughtsheadempty

split mortar
untold oracle
fading sun
scenic olive
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what about unstable miracle matter

fading sun
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what about un miracle matter

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what about just matter

deft vessel
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It’s unstable

fading sun
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what about superstition matter tho

normal leaf
scenic olive
normal leaf
untold oracle
deft vessel
fading sun
untold oracle
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Also headcanons are amazing

split mortar
scenic olive
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I headcanon that headcanon

normal leaf
untold oracle
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I love hearing people’s interpretations of stuff we don’t have answers on

split mortar
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Same

indigo glade
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For a ranged attack, Yharim will throw a chunk of Auric Ore at the player.

normal leaf
sleek halo
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ngl

split mortar
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He has Exo tech in his armour

sleek halo
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I kinda imagine yharim being strong enough that

normal leaf
sleek halo
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even with auric rejection trying to push you away

untold oracle
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It has exo tech so I thought he could do that if he wanted

sleek halo
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he can actually just grab you

fading sun
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what if yharim forcefeeds you auric ore

split mortar
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You die

sleek halo
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u probably die horribly

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deadliest yharim move imo is still

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the bearhug

normal leaf
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Can you actually eat the rock

untold oracle
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Or whatever he grabs you on

normal leaf
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Tooltip tells me not to but

sleek halo
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you’re literally cooked

split mortar
normal leaf
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I want a bearhug from yharim ngl

sleek halo
split mortar
sleek halo
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a face grab after launching himself at you

untold oracle
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That’s a gruesome death

sleek halo
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basically grabs you and it does constant damage until you get slammed into a wall

normal leaf
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What y’all think yharim’s build like, is it like strong man build or your typical Greek god with abs you can grate cheese on

sleek halo
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and his grip is strong enough to hold your head while being rejected

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so you don’t go flying from first contact

normal leaf
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Always felt that yharim’s more of a bulky kinda guy rather than body builder shape

split mortar
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Does someone have the official yharim art

indigo glade
split mortar
split mortar
split mortar
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Lore pins don’t :/

fading sun
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fat jacked

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or something

indigo glade
fading sun
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peak male performance type shit

normal leaf
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New yharim design looks a bit short

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Like almost like a dwarf

fading sun
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what new design

split mortar
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He wide af

untold oracle
spring helm
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Our whole universe was in a hot dense state

indigo glade
fading sun
indigo glade
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Found it.

normal leaf
split mortar
indigo glade
fading sun
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crazy

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well

frank dune
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Why tf is he so fucking big 😭

fading sun
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silly ass build

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his actual torso is fucking small tho

split mortar
normal leaf
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How insecure is he to have fake abs

fading sun
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his huge hip takes up all the space

normal leaf
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Man baby

untold oracle
normal leaf
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Babyman

indigo glade
untold oracle
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She was forced to stand beside him

fading sun
split mortar
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Draedon made it for him so it’s draedon not yharim

normal leaf
indigo glade
split mortar
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Also yharim has more hair then scal does body

indigo glade
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Simply modified it.

frank dune
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So does that mean yharim is WIP?

split mortar
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Yeah and the fake abs are the Exo tech part

split mortar
untold oracle
scenic olive
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Soma prime should have an upgrade after post Noxus and should be called Noxus Prime

normal leaf
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He’s bald

split mortar
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He did get out in lava

frank dune
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I have a theory

spring helm
untold oracle
scenic olive
frank dune
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Yharim is gabriel ultrakill

untold oracle
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What are they called

normal leaf
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Take off his helmet and expose the back of his head and it’s exactly like calamitas plush

untold oracle
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Like what romans had

split mortar
untold oracle
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She looks eepy

normal leaf
untold oracle
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And angry because you woke her up

frank dune
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Tbh why she has cracks?

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Scal i mean

split mortar
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(Popcorns cal pluhs)

untold oracle
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Scar

untold oracle
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They are scars

indigo glade
scenic olive
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why Yharon didnt wear Auric when fighting us

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after all he should be able to

split mortar
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Heave

untold oracle
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Is he stupid???

fading sun
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why would he

split mortar
fading sun
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how would he make armor

scenic olive
split mortar
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Draedon only left recently so he def could have

indigo glade
normal leaf
scenic olive
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norway

fading sun
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humorous

spring helm
indigo glade
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You can see it in the sprite too, the Auric wingplates still exist.

indigo glade
sleek halo
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other parts however

spring helm
sleek halo
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like the claws and the horns

split mortar
scenic olive
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why not

sleek halo
frank dune
spring helm
sleek halo
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also lack of freedom for the wings to flap

split mortar
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It’s only 3 Fabsol days away

scenic olive
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didnt Auric was used because it has some lightweight properties

sleek halo
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look attachable

normal leaf
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Must be hell having to pass down artist to artist to do that damn chicken

frank dune
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Tbh i am sure auric metal is light

sleek halo
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(I’m saying the horns aren’t because of his crest)

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(it looks very ceratopsian like)

scenic olive
real silo
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Variable mass metal

split mortar
scenic olive
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i think Yharon would be cool if he has a helmet

sleek halo
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(so his horns fit very naturally)

real silo
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If you're attuned it's light as a feather but otherwise it's heavier than tungsten

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Or smth

normal leaf
scenic olive
sleek halo
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you forced it

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or tricked ot

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into thinking it was an auric creature

real silo
scenic olive
real silo
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stinkkuuu

normal leaf
scenic olive
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whre auric

indigo glade
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Maybe all the Auric was used by other people, and the only Auric Yharim had access to wasn't enough for a full suit.

real silo
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yellow bits

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Stupid

indigo glade
scenic olive
indigo glade
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And tail.

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For some reason.

real silo
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That's the auric whip that will be added

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Clearly

split mortar
frank dune
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Is shadowspec canon?

untold oracle
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No

scenic olive
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no

real silo
sleek halo
scenic olive
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no thats clealy grape

real silo
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Actually no it's astral

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astral collars

scenic olive
normal leaf
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Your both wrong
That’s clearly a fisher price toy collars

indigo glade
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That is just purple.

split mortar
split mortar
normal leaf
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Never forget the meetbals

sleek halo
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me when I wanna write things but I can’t cause adhd paralysis

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guh

untold oracle
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If calamitas plushie canon

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Like did Yharim sell them

frank dune
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Imagine post yharim auric set

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Crafted with auric bars

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Yharon souls fragments

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Exo prisms

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And yharims flesh

split mortar
spring helm
sleek halo
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Idrk how Yharim will give us any really

real silo
sleek halo
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direct access to upgrades

real silo
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Tyranny's end now drops from him

split mortar
frank dune
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Yharims special drop

dusk laurel
split mortar
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Hey vanillin

dusk laurel
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hey melon

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why yharim flesh

frank dune
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Hello vanillin

dusk laurel
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just why

untold oracle
frank dune
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Idk

untold oracle
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Alexey going 1 day without talking about Yharim’s flesh and eating it challenge

frank dune
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Fine yharim bones

split mortar
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Alexey try not to cannibalise calamity challange impossible

frank dune
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: (

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I didnt said anything about eating

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His flesh should be used likebcloth

split mortar
frank dune
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Its like replica of his armor

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Fine fine

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Yharim soul

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Fragments

split mortar
frank dune
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As his weapon idk

split mortar
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Yharim pulls out the zenith for his swordclueless

frank dune
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Melee will be ultraduperop melee 100% no zenth6

untold oracle
frank dune
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You will need 3999 of each material to craft one piece

fading sun
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craft what

frank dune
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Yharim armor

frank dune
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Still

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Yharim mask

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0.00001% then nohit

frank dune
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😭

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I mean every boss has mask

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Not eating it

split mortar
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Sure sure

frank dune
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Imagine yharim would just delete ur world then you lose

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Or maybe

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Even delete terraria from ur steam account

untold oracle
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Kana

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Thank you for saving this hopeless situation

frank dune
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: (

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Fine i wont skin yharim

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Alright?

stark basalt
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can we skin all non-moonlord believers?

split mortar
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Yes

untold oracle
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-guy with a moon lord pfp

frank dune
untold oracle
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What is that?

frank dune
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Cal clone

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Idk if thats real though

split mortar
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I think it got rejected and is a fan work

frank dune
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Maybe

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As i said idk

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I just kinda like hiw it looks

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Cal is like in torture mechanism or smth

untold oracle
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I’m writing it so that my character knits and sews a lot :3

untold oracle
random mulch
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it's a rejected fan resprite.

frank dune
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Oh ok

scenic olive
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Its Cal-10

dusk laurel
eager bluff
regal wharf
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Yharim is intended to be like the final final boss right?

sudden ruin
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kinda

split mortar
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He will be the final boss

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But there may be two bosses ahead of him

sudden ruin
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^

split mortar
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May cause they aren’t garunteed

sudden ruin
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really hope they do though :)

split mortar
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Same

untold oracle
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Wow I just passed 10k words

split mortar
untold oracle
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This is getting unreasonably long

frozen zodiac
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wirefull device
look inside
wireless

untold oracle
spring helm
sudden ruin
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mobile wont let me see how many messages ive sent

sleek halo
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97.85% of my 42,719 messages have been in lore discussion

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which is 41,802

scenic olive
wheat walrus
split mortar
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Wbwbee

sleek halo
sleek halo
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tho tbf

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I have more in here than cei...

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and reb

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and stip

wheat walrus
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the true and one supreme loremaster

split mortar
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Jank is the true lore writer

indigo glade
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I have more messages in the Calamity Developer Server than most people in this channel.

sleek halo
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I hope...

split mortar
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I will remove your left knee cap surgically

indigo glade
sleek halo
wheat walrus
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how da heell did they even get you in there

sleek halo
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Caldev moment...

indigo glade
sudden ruin
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is it patreon server

sleek halo
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no

sudden ruin
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its not public is it?

sleek halo
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p sure

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99% sure of this

sudden ruin
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why is seeker in it

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tester perchance?

indigo glade
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No.

spare pier
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The fuck you mean you have a message in Dev? hdflr

sleek halo
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actually yea

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you'd just need

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1 msg

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LOL

indigo glade
sleek halo
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thinking about it like literally just 1 msg

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and you'd outdo 90% of the community

indigo glade
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Misinformation? Where?

spring helm
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Cal plush and bottle

indigo glade
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Pour the water from the bottle onto her. Drown her.

split mortar
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No

Drown her via bath

scenic olive
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execute her publicly

split mortar
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Yes show a vid of pelting her in the bath water

spring helm
scenic olive
indigo glade
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No more eyes.

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No... eyes.

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No Eyes from Hollow Knight.

dusk laurel
indigo glade
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Incorrect.

indigo glade
untold forge
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Fellas

split mortar
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Yeah?

compact sun
spring helm
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what

split mortar
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What

dusk laurel
#

what.

sudden ruin
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oh fr my appendix was removed

manic coral
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I always lie

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I'm evil

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This statement is false

indigo glade
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Do you only speak in paradoxes?

high lynx
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whats the Pinocchio one

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if he says he will tell a lie or if he will tell a truth i forgor

indigo glade
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If Pinocchio tells a lie, his nose gets longer.

high lynx
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right but if he says "i will tell a lie" or maybe it was "my nose will grow" what happens

sinful adder
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Hey Cei, is the skeleton merchant canon

high lynx
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because if it's true his nose doesnt grow because its true

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but then he lied because it didnt grow

sinful adder
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Maybe a statement can be neither true nor false and it ignores these situations

high lynx
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how high does the enchant go

sinful adder
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They're not a lie and not a truth

high lynx
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III?

sinful adder
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No idea

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Oh wait haha

high lynx
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and can i get it from an enchant table or do i have to get it from villagers

cloud ibex
split mortar
manic coral
split mortar
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Necromancy not being that great at reviving someone even for the likes of scal

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And yet these ones are completely perfectly human and not murder monsters

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Less so contradictory and just they’re a anomaly from what we know of necromancy

indigo glade
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They could just be controlled by someone.

spare pier
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Anomalies are cool

dusk laurel
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Like the planned acid tier 3 enemy HDfailure

spare pier
split mortar
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Also hello reb

spare pier
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On another note I think the Skeleton Merchant isn't actually a case of necromancy being really good

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Rather

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A necromantic construct that gained sentience

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It isn't bound to anyone, so it kinda just

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Learned

split mortar
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So less of a revival and more so re using the body for a new life?

spare pier
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Yeah, kinda

sinful adder
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Ah ok

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Oh, sorry for the ping

manic coral
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Idc about pings

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And also yeah doesn't necessarily have to be neceomancy

sinful adder
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This could make sense. Though. My guess is that it's a case of necromancy where the original soul was left intact and shoved back in, and that leads to successful necromancy

split mortar
indigo glade
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The Skeleton Merchant has no dialogue saying or even implying knowledge of a previous life, so I'd still say it isn't revived, and still is just necromancy.

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I

manic coral
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As said just like, a necromantic construct

indigo glade
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worded that badly

manic coral
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Not necessarily undead

spare pier
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Even if it literally only happens because of dumb luck

indigo glade
split mortar
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I feel like successful necromancy is why yharon only revived dragons

Needs something normal beings intrinsically don’t have

spare pier
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Didn't we already talk about how Yharon's revival worked?

split mortar
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Isn’t it said to be that sepulchre is like how yharon does it in the bestiary

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Or am I going insane

spare pier
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I think you're going insane hdflr

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But I'm already gonna say it anyways

split mortar
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Nah mentions it’s inspired

indigo glade
spare pier
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Yharon doesn't revive anyone

indigo glade
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Right.

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Rebirth.

spare pier
#

He is capable of reincarnating their souls

indigo glade
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Yharon births all the Auric Dragons.

spare pier
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It's not a perfect rebirth, that's something only he can do

split mortar
indigo glade
dusk laurel
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I got jumpsacred by that gif

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i thought mine was like half of the screen

split mortar
indigo glade
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I want to say more cursed stuff, but I really do not want to push it.

spare pier
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Because here's a really fucking funny wording

split mortar
sinful adder
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What would happen if you tried the "soul reincarnation" necromancy on the body the soul originally came from?

spare pier
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Zeratros himself was gravely injured. It seemed his power, along with his life, would be lost forever.

sinful adder
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Hmmmm

spare pier
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We already stabilished that no matter the circumstance

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You cannot revive someone

split mortar
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Yeah rebirth doesn’t carry the power to other lives

spare pier
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I didn't say that

sinful adder
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I thought yharim was just wrong about this

spare pier
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Zeratros had fought Moon Lord, and this situation is specifically pointed as terrible

indigo glade
#

Could Moon Lord disable Yharon's rebirth power, somehow?

sinful adder
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But I suppose this means that his soul would return, but without its power

cold owl
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ML must have done something for it to be this bad

split mortar
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It’s past midnight so I have lost what intellect I had so sorry for my future dumbness

sinful adder
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Either that or ML has soul destruction power

cold owl
spare pier
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It's so fucking funny how Moon Lord's Bestiary LITERALLY ANSWERS ALL OF THIS hdflr

split mortar
sinful adder
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Looking forward to it

indigo glade
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Can't wait.

spare pier
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As I said

spare pier
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Moon Lord's Bestiary is probably the second most important in the entire game

split mortar
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Can’t wait for omni to scale moonlord in sso

dusk laurel
#

behind NT clueless

spare pier
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It answers how its power works and where it comes from

indigo glade
dusk laurel
split mortar
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So much text to read

This is how you get me reading shit

split mortar
#

SSO will fucking break lore chat

spare pier
#

There really isn't anywhere to mention that, so

indigo glade
#

I wonder what the Pillar entries will talk about.

spare pier
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The Moon Lord is kind of a fucking enigma to everyone on the planet

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So the only place we can talk about it is its Bestiary, which is why I chose to just

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Drop everything there

dusk laurel
#

lore dump

split mortar
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Makes sense

sinful adder
#

My theory is that the fact that this is important means that Fovos is from the distortion and it's power is that it consumes auric essence

indigo glade
sinful adder
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And that noxus is some kind of baby fovos

spare pier
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The only person in the entire planet who could maybe talk about the Moon Lord is Cultist

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But I have more things I want Cultist to talk about so

dusk laurel
#

bestiary?

indigo glade
dusk laurel
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or dialogue

sinful adder
#

Cultist will talk? Possibly?

spare pier
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Plus I think it's kind of a stretch to say that the Cultist somehow studied the Moon Lord's anatomy or some shit

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And I mean Forsaken Archives hdflr

split mortar
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Lunatic cultist brain blasting us with the lunatic yap mid fight

spare pier
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Forsaken Archives for all intents and purpose will be just

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Cultist 101

split mortar
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Yay

indigo glade
#

I wonder how many books the Forsaken Archives will have.

split mortar
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Atleast a few

spare pier
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I have ideas for 2 at least

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One of them being

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Ok have you ever asked yourselves what the fuck is the Stratus set?

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Yeah I came up with something for that

split mortar
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No I have just kinda always seen them as weird weapons I don’t use

spare pier
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And I think it's Pretty Cool

split mortar
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Though yeah they prob can have some decently good shit

dusk laurel
#

so like exodium?

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it kinda just appears

split mortar
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Moonlord potential tie thanks to exodium and polter tie thanks to the ruinous soul

spare pier
#

I came up today with an explanation for Night Provi I think nothing is beyond my grasp by this point HDfailure

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Granted if my idea goes through it uh

dusk laurel
spare pier
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Kinda stops being Night Provi

split mortar
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Yeah and starts being berserk provi

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Enraged even

tall delta
#

moon lord crealy comes from Twistation

spare pier
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My problem was always that there were very few ways of making it work without making so Providence actually didn't fight you at full power

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Which sucks

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I don't want to make Provi go back to the "she wasn't fighting you at full power" shtick, much less right after you fight a Boss who wasn't at full power

split mortar
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Maybe have it be an unnatural side effect from moonlord death is a possibility

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So not even she is aware of night form

spare pier
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My solution is quite simple

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Ok, she actually is a little weaker when you fight her

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But due to something she herself did, and followed by uh

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You being a dumbass hdflr

split mortar
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Why are we dumbass if it weakened her whatever we did

spare pier
#

Exactly

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My idea is that you, as the player

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Managed to weaken her a little bit

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Night Provi is you willingly giving her that power back

indigo glade
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We throw the Profaned Core at her during night, clearly.

spare pier
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It's you literally forsaking an advantage you acquired for a better fight

spare pier
split mortar
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That would entail that providence is legit like dog level normally or something which is a tad terrifying thinking about it

spare pier
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Guessed it hdflr

dusk laurel
#

whar

spare pier
#

But not at night

dusk laurel
#

we guessing lore with this one

spare pier
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I did that because I didn't want Night Provi to be a massive loop to get to

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The idea is that you quite literally just

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Give the Core back to her

split mortar
spring helm
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"Oh my bad Providence you can have this back. Don't fight anymore okay?"

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"Oh no she's stronger."

split mortar
#

Except for night form

spare pier
#

You have the Core. You killed the Guardians for it. You have a small shard of Providence's power in your literal hands and she cannot take it from you unless she kills you.

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So you give it back to her

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And of course

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She gets stronger

split mortar
spring helm
indigo glade
#

If it is no longer technically Night Form, then why does she inflict Nightwither?

dusk laurel
spare pier
indigo glade
spare pier
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Well, we made Voidfrost because Nightwither was in a really fucking weird spot

split mortar
indigo glade
#

New cold debuff.

spare pier
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Being both a counterpart to Daybroken and Holy Flames

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And this made Nightwither really fucking annoying to balance

indigo glade
#

Would it be used for Stratus items?

spare pier
#

I thought Voidfrost was already common knowledge????

dusk laurel
#

this is new to me

split mortar
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I thought it was a weapon

indigo glade
dusk laurel
#

i thought it was an item

indigo glade
#

Some people thought it was a donator item from the backlog.