lore-discussion

[dusk laurel]

thanks

[sinful adder]

What is this from?

Also, I wonder what Draedon would think about a player that was a robot, one he didn't make

[indigo glade]

Inquiry: Exo Mechanical Trio. The end of the first paragraph.

[hushed geyser]

Mood whiplash

[sinful adder]

I see

I wonder if the exo mechs are sentient. I doubt it, but on the other hand, exo stuff is made from the same stuff as Draedon's "brain"

[indigo glade]

It is alive in the same way Draedon is alive.

It thinks.

I wonder what was powering Draedon before he obtained Exo Prisms.

[fierce pagoda]

Snicker bar

[split mortar]

Simple, big ass generator

[fierce pagoda]

ah thats what the other part of exo technology was, first part, coding based on the brain so that its super fast at calculating and stuff, and second part, infinite energy from exo prisms

and i guess the black plating that the exomechs use

dunno what that is made of tho, maybe cosmolite

[split mortar]

It’s a cosmolite alloy

[fierce pagoda]

so does it count as exo technology?

like the hardware

[split mortar]

He calls it Exo plating iirc

So yeah

[sinful adder]

I can't be sure about that. Anything that thinks is alive in the same way that we are, in my opinion. So Draedon is alive.

[fierce pagoda]

or are the exo prisms the only hardware part

Exo plating ha that sounds cool

so you think that when exo armor is getting added, it will be made of exo prisms and cosmolite alloy?

do the exoprisms contain any exo tech brain coding? or do they only containt a tracking thing dreadon installed in them

[split mortar]

Prob not alloy in crafting due to the fact that would be item bloat

Prob just tracking things, that’s all we are told about by draedon

[fierce pagoda]

yeah, but you think that at least cosmolite would appear in the recipe?

[split mortar]

Probably

[fierce pagoda]

man just using exo tech to power things up sounds so cool, REALLY whis we could have upgraded our own auric armor with exo tech like Yharim but i don think thats happening

only regular Exo armor for us

[split mortar]

Yeah

Insuperior armour though we may have better weapons

[fierce pagoda]

damn you Yharim! why do you get to have the cool Exo Auric Armor!!!

we will have demonshade armor atleast which has Scal power

[split mortar]

Because draedon got to give it directly unlike us who has tor craft

[fierce pagoda]

that armor Yharim doesnt have access to

[split mortar]

True

[fierce pagoda]

we can make exo auric plating blocks though, but they are only decoration

[split mortar]

Oh nice

Demonshade will probably get nerfed when it becomes scal armour since it would otherwise beat the others out of the water in usefulness

[fierce pagoda]

right, were gonna have three equal armor sets, Exo armor, Auric armor and Demonshade armor

but are all three going to be canonically weaker than Yharims armor?

[indigo glade]

It is getting reworked.

[split mortar]

Oh so no rage thing anymore?

[split mortar]

Likely

Our auric is worse

So if the others are equal then they’re worse

[fierce pagoda]

our auric is only lacking rejection part, but i guess thats a big enough nerf to make ours inferiour. Literally no one can even touch Yharim without being harmed

[spring helm]

Sticker caloro

[fierce pagoda]

Loring interrupted with a caloro flashbang

[split mortar]

Dumbo flashbang

[fierce pagoda]

wonder what it tastes

[spring helm]

Mock attuned auric is like a nuclear bomb without the radiation

Still strong but it lacks that certain “flair” that’s got everyone spooked

[indigo glade]

If you post this one more time, I am going to delete dumbo octopus from everyone's memories.

[split mortar]

Tbh most of the flair is also the fact a decently big bomb levels a city

[fierce pagoda]

woah you can do that

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[split mortar]

Fuck you

[fierce pagoda]

Why do we have Amidias of all people dropping lore bombshells about auric and soul attunement

Amidias coming in clutch for all lorers around the world

[split mortar]

Simple

He close as fuck to two seemingly quite intelligent gods

[fierce pagoda]

did anyone else ever mock attune auric before us

why else would Amidias know about it

or was it just speculation that he deemed true

[split mortar]

There’s probably some less intensely strong spells that do the same as auric

And so loop holes from those spells would work on auric

Just that auric is a pain to loop around

[fierce pagoda]

oh so other spells that use a worthyness mechanich, and if you can get around those spells, you can get around auric

but its easier said than done

type shit

[sinful adder]

Doubt it

[split mortar]

It’s what I think is the case

[lean crag]

Btw this image is now officially a year old

As of yesterday

[tall delta]

Yk i think i should send the monstrosity that i created

[split mortar]

Yes

Send

[indigo glade]

Most likely, yes.

[split mortar]

Give

So I can hurt others more

[indigo glade]

Anyways.

[dusk laurel]

whar

[lean crag]

.

[lean crag]

🤩

[tall delta]

I hate

[indigo glade]

I find it interesting that some people, instead of becoming Gods, decided to use Auric Souls to force attunement on Auric Ore to work on it.

[split mortar]

YOU’RE THE CREATOR OF THE IMAGE?

[fierce pagoda]

can gods use auric ore? like arent they mock attuned all the time? or does the soul need to be put into the auric specifically

[lean crag]

Yeah lmao

[split mortar]

Nope

They can’t use it

[indigo glade]

I hope this gets explored one day, since it is interesting.

[tall delta]

Look

I thinkkk perfect gods can

[viral juniper]

What an amazing bit of channel history

[fierce pagoda]

alright im looking

[indigo glade]

If they could use it, why deem it heretical? Why would you need to put the soul in the ore?

[split mortar]

When they ascend they remove the auric trait of the soul

It’s now seperate and so they get rejected

[fierce pagoda]

what is an auric trait

[tall delta]

but its a theory

[split mortar]

As in just they lose the fact it’s auric

It’s no longer considered auric

[fierce pagoda]

one thing is that auric is know about before us, but when we play its hidden until Yharon is dead, so was auric sealed sometime ago before we came along

or can it jsut be chalked up to being gameplay

[split mortar]

It existed before

And appears after yharons death

And it is hated by gods

[fierce pagoda]

weird why does it lost the fact that its auric, isnt soul a soul

[indigo glade]

It isn't "just for gameplay" unless it directly contradicts lore, which Auric Ore appearing after Yharon's death does not.

[fierce pagoda]

so it was hidden at some point

[split mortar]

God souls are different to auric souls and normal souls

[indigo glade]

I like to believe that it was all just mined up, and Yharon's defeat somehow brought more into the world.

[split mortar]

Auric ore is the power the dragon held in its current life imbued into the rocks of the world

[fierce pagoda]

does auric reject the rocks surrounding it underground

[split mortar]

Wouldn’t be surprised, it rejects through thick armour

[fierce pagoda]

so like do you think auric cases tremors and earthquakes underground

[indigo glade]

No.

[fierce pagoda]

like its shaking everywhere around it

[split mortar]

It’s probably not as violently strong as when another living being touches it

[fierce pagoda]

how come the auric ore doesnt reject us when its in our inventory

[tall delta]

the other theory (i forgot to mention lol) is that gods that were attuned to the dragon whose auric soul they consumed can use auric

[split mortar]

Simple

Refer to this image

[indigo glade]

How come the Terrarian can hold over twenty thousand gold thrones?

[fierce pagoda]

gameplay haha

[indigo glade]

Don't question how game inventories work, they are always confusing.

[spring helm]

I bow to your power

[spring helm]

Deep pockets

[lean crag]

Zamn

I used to be lore discussion regular

Good times

[tall delta]

simply put a layer of raw auric above the non attuned auric

[indigo glade]

Where does The Knight in Hollow Knight keep all those keys, passes and Geo?

[spring helm]

Up his-

[split mortar]

Uhhh

Auric rejection

[indigo glade]

Wrong.

Their.

[spring helm]

Their what

Oh

My bad g

Up their-

[indigo glade]

No.

[fierce pagoda]

1233popcorn banned for using wrong pronouns

[spring helm]

[fierce pagoda]

im sorry i dont write the rules

[spring helm]

This is like the 5th time

How do I keeping messing it up

[indigo glade]

Bannable offense.

[sudden ruin]

popcorn this is inexcusable

[tall delta]

Auric cant reject if youre wearing non attuned auric armor

[split mortar]

Sicc the bird on popcorn1233

[sinful adder]

no actually, someone said a few days ago that auric does in fact appear when yharon dies

[fierce pagoda]

I love it when im in the exo chair and touch auric ore, just zapped a million times a second cuz it cant knock me back

[split mortar]

Read the text right after

[indigo glade]

Their next message was literally saying how it also comes back after Yharon's defeat.

[sinful adder]

oh

oops

yes, but I mean that there was auric before, it was used up, then new auric appeared when yharon died

[indigo glade]

You aren't escaping the Calamity Player allegations.

[split mortar]

They are known for having no eyes

[fierce pagoda]

please kill me before taking my eyes

[split mortar]

No

[fierce pagoda]

never want to be blind

[indigo glade]

No Eyes... Like the Hollow Knight boss...

[split mortar]

Immediately looked it up but no good gifs

[fierce pagoda]

What i am saying, is, skibidi fortnite skibidi skibidi fortnite

[dusk laurel]

. . .

we should steal your eyes

[indigo glade]

I am politely telling you to shut the fuck up.

[dusk laurel]

^

[fierce pagoda]

skibidi calamity

[dusk laurel]

☹️

[fierce pagoda]

im gonna make that song now

[indigo glade]

I am going to send you to Heaven.

[dusk laurel]

Please refrain from rotted activity

[fierce pagoda]

what the hell? please? Heaven sounds amazing!

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/trinity-bomb-nuclear-weapon-oppenheimer-los-alamos-atom-bomb-gif-16272589027919557028

[indigo glade]

You'd be wrong.

[dusk laurel]

send the bombs, eels, everything we can conjure

[fierce pagoda]

what, have you been there?

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[fierce pagoda]

bro is speaking from experience

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-omori-basil-basil-basil-omori-basil-drag-gif-26312697

[dusk laurel]

seeker is ancient

[split mortar]

To heaven you go

[dusk laurel]

primordial being

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-pizza-devour-gif-25512719

In

Pit

Now

[fierce pagoda]

idk i just really like the phrasing "what i am saying, is,"

i had to use it

[indigo glade]

"Primordial" is technically inaccurate, since my existence predates this universe's existence.

[dusk laurel]

cool

even older then

[fierce pagoda]

oldhead

[split mortar]

Primordial indicates first aswell

If you’re before the universe then you are first

[dusk laurel]

why do you dwell in our human wastes?

especially this server

why did you arrive here

[split mortar]

Nvm I wrong

[split mortar]

Why the fuck not

[indigo glade]

A mortal cannot understand concepts beyond them, like how a one dimension being simply cannot fathom a third dimensional being.

[dusk laurel]

true

[fierce pagoda]

sure grandpa, lets get you to bed

[dusk laurel]

but i am no longer 1 dimensional

[spring helm]

Ok

[fierce pagoda]

was that even a suicide joke

it was just a funny hanging scal doll

[spring helm]

Not really I just executed cal plush

[split mortar]

here the rules for you to read

Oh only part of them

[indigo glade]

I need no such thing as rest.

[dusk laurel]

let's lore

[indigo glade]

I recommend you make a gallows, then.

[dusk laurel]

draedon said he planned to start mining operations on the moon

[spring helm]

Would that be allowed

[fierce pagoda]

yeah thats fine, i dont thinkg thats a joke about suicide

[dusk laurel]

or something along those lines

[indigo glade]

You couid even say it is a...

witch trial.

[spring helm]

🤯

[split mortar]

Your dementia is showing

[indigo glade]

I don't have dementia.

[split mortar]

See

You don’t even remember it

[fierce pagoda]

who is the oldest Calamity character in game?

is it moonlord?

no maybe noxus

[split mortar]

Don’t know moons age

[indigo glade]

I cannot have a fault of the human brain, because I do not have one.

[split mortar]

Nor noxus

Death is prob the one

[fierce pagoda]

damn it

what

[indigo glade]

Yharon.

[split mortar]

Death is one of the first three given auric souls

[fierce pagoda]

wher is that stated

[split mortar]

Statement

[indigo glade]

We do not have the birth dates of Moon Lord or Noxus, so the only option is Yharon.

[fierce pagoda]

is that top secret patreon lore stuff

[indigo glade]

Dragon of Death is also dead.

And Yharon isn't.

[split mortar]

Yharon may be fourth place we don’t know

[split mortar]

Fair

[viral juniper]

If it was top secret then surely the very-much non-Patrons here wouldn't know

[indigo glade]

If it was Patreon lore, someone would have gotten executed.

[viral juniper]

(It was stated somewhere here, too lazy to find the message)

[fierce pagoda]

hey somethings could get leaked

[tall delta]

never

[viral juniper]

(Funny you should say this; I just started playing a song called "Executioner")

[spring helm]

I’m split between primordial wyrm or Yharon

Maybe the elementals actually

[dusk laurel]

brimmy

[indigo glade]

Primordial Wyrm is an offshoot, and offshoots appeared in the Draconic Era.

[dusk laurel]

heat is one of the oldest things in the universe

[split mortar]

jared missed getting a auric soul

[indigo glade]

And the Auric Dragons were Pre-Historic.

[split mortar]

So it’s younger then them all

[spring helm]

Huh

[indigo glade]

We don't know when the Elementals started existing.

[spring helm]

That’s crazy they had such a huge head start and some wyrm in the abyss surpassed them

[split mortar]

Nah jared is barely behind zeratros

[dusk laurel]

True, we don't have all of the info about their existence

[fierce pagoda]

ok so are we gonna settle on Yharon

[split mortar]

Yeah

[spring helm]

Okay maybe not all of them but most

[split mortar]

jared is also above second place auric dragon

[fierce pagoda]

Wait till the full lore is out, and we learn that the real villain all along was Yharon

im calling it

[split mortar]

So all but 1

[split mortar]

He did tell yharim a biased version of history and god ascension stuff

[spring helm]

i can't believe the real villain wasn't even the last guy we fight

[sinful adder]

I can't remember where, but I'm pretty sure we got info about the elementals being around as old as the auric dragons

I wonder if there's a material that acts like auric but for attunement with elementals. Maybe one for each elemental?

Maybe demonshade is the one for brimstone elemental?

[split mortar]

Heart of the elements

[spring helm]

The elemental accessories

[fierce pagoda]

The real villain was the friends we made along the way

[sinful adder]

That's different I think.

Those aren't, like, materials.

They're a piece of the elemental's power, taken from them and made into a new creature

Like brimstone material

Though I guess brimstone material is literally the thing I described, but there's no attunement involved. Maybe there can be another, stronger one?

[supple thunder]

maybe infernal suevite

you need it to craft the summon right

[spring helm]

hypothetically, if we took the Ark of the Cosmos' tooltip literally, would the rip in spacetime bypass Calamitas' shield?

[scenic olive]

someone call omni

[spring helm]

Just ping him

[spring helm]

@wheat walrus ^

[dusk laurel]

omnicide

didn't a whole debate over some item tooltips being canon happen

and the tooltips were like "This thing can tear the sun in half" or some other unlikely things

[high lynx]

Tooltips are there to make you feel cool

Nothing else for like 76% of items

[spring helm]

Yeah obviously some of the stuff (a lot actually) isn’t canon

I was just asking what if

[high lynx]

Its like law’s sword in one piece

He can stab through magic shields

So i dont see why not

The shield is presumably brimstone magic (idk)

[fading sun]

It burns your sord or something

Auric plantera when btw 🙏🙏🙏

[sinful adder]

Imagine if we got a ravager rework and it's another plantera clone

[tall delta]

would be so.......calamitous

[fading sun]

Fuck nawr

If that happens then auric plantera is guaranteed NOT to happen

[sinful adder]

I don't know what auric plantera is

[fading sun]

Cuz there would be too many planteras

[fading sun]

Basically remember how the lore states that plantera had like souls for fertilizer

[sinful adder]

But it made me think of how there's a plantera for like 1 and a half of each of the armor sets that go in to auric armor

Plantera: uelibloom and/or Silva
Poltergast: bloodflare

[sinful adder]

Ah

[fading sun]

Imagine if you did that and fed it yharons soul fragments

I've been preaching this for a while now I'm making it happen one way or another

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-cat-scared-gif-14784695303652887463

[real silo]

Auric plantera (silva)

[fading sun]

No

Silva stinky

I love uelibloom fr

Sure hope nothing horrible happens to it

[real silo]

uelibloom more like

uelipoopy....

[fading sun]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-you-fucking-did-gif-25579294

[spring helm]

Would be funny if Terrarian had soft hands

Just the softest

[supple thunder]

tried to send the image but my data is not dataing

[spring helm]

i tried to draw yharim and he looks like a catboy

[sudden ruin]

i love catboys

[gaunt sluice]

first thing I saw was like a cat reading a book

[spring helm]

i see it

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[devout grotto]

Wait why would they

[spring helm]

would be funny

[devout grotto]

True

[spring helm]

just something incredibly minor but also surpising enough to halt a conversation

"Terrarian, as a I was saying we need to get moving already. There's not much time left before the goblins arrive and while I know you can handle them I doubt...

Why is your hand so soft?"

[stark basalt]

Moonlord has the softest hands

[spring helm]

You'd expect someone who handles a sword like 7 times their size to have hands built like steel but nah, baby hands

[spring helm]

needs to be since he's got eyes there

[devout grotto]

😭

Man I kinda wanna draw some portraits for the Terrarian but I don't have time rn

[gaunt sluice]

man picking anything up must be an absolute pain

[untold oracle]

Hello lore

[gaunt sluice]

Hello cat surrounded by a blue and white shield that protects them from the harshness of the outside world

[untold oracle]

Imagine catching

[mighty zenith]

kibby hand

[untold oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-5920695394641505768

[gaunt sluice]

oh god please no

[mighty zenith]

hellolore goblins

[untold oracle]

Hello gabro

[devout grotto]

Hello

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568192082473386020/1292501499024379956/runboyrun.gif

[wheat walrus]

Tooltip Info:
"Pressing Right Click while holding UP with empowered charges will provoke a Big Rip in spacetime and use all charges"
"If more than 5 charges were used, you can dash across the rip by holding UP"
"The physical culmination of your journey, capable of rending gods asunder"

Ark of The Elements Info:
"A heavenly pair of blades infused with the essence of Terraria, powerful enough to cut through the fabric of reality"

Galaxia Info:
"Freed from earthly shackles and coursing with cosmic power"

Wiki.gg Info:
"The Big Rip attack is not only based on the scissor-like nature of the Ark of the Ancients, but also on a hypothetical model of the end of the universe also named the Big Rip, in which spacetime itself would get torn apart by the accelerating expansion of the universe."

Wikipedia Info (Big Rip):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Rip

It's clear that the Big Rip here doesn't cause an actual universe-wide Big Rip, but it does still cause a rip through space, time and reality as a whole. That, based on there being time (4th dimension), in the equation, as well as being capable of cutting through the distance between targets, kinda like Za Hando from JJBA, and how the Galaxia is supposedly "freed from earthly shackles", I say it has a 4D Attack Potency, only with that specific attack though, one that is meant to bypass durability

the best way I can think of to describe AOTC's Big Rip attack is that it's kinda like Ryomen Sukuna's (JJK, manga spoilers)) ||World-Cutting Slash, an attack that ignores durability and even ignores Gojo's infinity due to it attacking not Gojo himself but the space where Gojo resides, think of that but not on a mere spatial scale, but unlike Sukuna's WCS, AOTC's Rip is also going through time||

It's definitely an odd one, but I think of it as that for now, just ignoring durability on a 4D/time scale, while also being able to go/cut through a limited amount of space and time based on the 5-charges big rip doing that

so basically, it should be a 4D/Universe Level+ attack, in atp/dura negation, realistically it should be able to go through SCal's Shield and any other defense of hers unless she too is able to do something of that scale or higher in any way, shape or form

[spring helm]

we upscaling Calamity with this one

great work once again Omni

[wheat walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1293706872041508915/ezgif-1-5b1bb093eb.gif

[sinful adder]

This is actually a perfect example of how power scaling is fucking stupid and wrong. A true understanding of physics would dictate that no, this is actually no different from a really powerful but ordinary object in this same number of dimensions that we have, or any arbitrary amount more or less. Would you like me to explain why?

[mighty zenith]

powerscaling is stupid when you use it to decide how good a piece of media is

other than that its pretty harmless i think

[sinful adder]

Yes, but on top of that it is also just factually incorrect

[wheat walrus]

idk I go by powerscaling rules, I know they're flawed but not like I can do much about it right now, would be quite impossible for me to remake the entire system from the ground up and having all the tiny little powerscalers follow it like that

[spring helm]

im kidding omni dont hit me

[sinful adder]

Power scaling rules are logically incorrect and utter bullshit

[wheat walrus]

I know that powerscaling tries to do things more like fiction does things, rather than real life, while things from real life are taken, because so does fiction, the way the entire thing is structured is still more based around what fiction does

[wheat walrus]

also can you not get mad over this vro, it's unnecessary

[sinful adder]

Black holes do the same thing as the big rip, but "inward" instead of "outward". They create regions of spacetime that are cut off from the rest of the universe, from the point they are created to the infinite future. A black hole is an ordinary object, made of matter, and following all the normal laws of physics, albiet at their extremes. Therefore, in order to call the ark of the cosmos whatever level this is, you must also say that every single object in our real life universe is at that level.

I'm not mad, just annoyed

[wheat walrus]

once again, idk really, I just follow powerscaling rules not real life rules for this, obviously

[sinful adder]

The problem is that power scalers seem to think that their rules are objective and true and based on real physics, when they are not

[wheat walrus]

so long as people aren't going around and telling that fictional powerscaling is how things work irl then ion care

[wheat walrus]

I can see that

[sinful adder]

Do you ever interact with people like that?

Can you give them this example, if you do?

[wheat walrus]

well I don't interact too often with people who do dimensional powerscaling, like I know some who do it at times but it's not the main thing they do

usually I just limit myself to powerscaling more grounded stuff

and so do the people I surround myself with for these cases

[spring helm]

What does grounded mean in this context

[wheat walrus]

not galaxy, universe, dimensional busting stuff

usually I go with what can be calculated using simple energy terms

rather than scaling based on dimensional coordinates n stuff

[spring helm]

So stuff hard locked in classical physics then

[wheat walrus]

cause it gets confusing and weird + people who do that tend to be mad toxic in several cases

[sinful adder]

This is good

[scenic olive]

Good scaling

[wheat walrus]

I'll still try to do that if there's a need to from any side, but I prefer doing stuff that can be calculated in actual energy terms, it's just better imo

[untold oracle]

Oh good heavens!

[deft vessel]

I do wish for more Signus lore

[split mortar]

What are we loring

[split mortar]

Uhhh

Scals shield would disrupt the magic that lets space time get torn so no

[split mortar]

That or some cal characters can just resist space time tearing which I can see since dog doesn’t open portals inside our necks

[cloud ibex]

You have a tendency to seem overly aggressive sometimes which is why it looks like you’re mad I think

Power scaling doesn’t exactly interest me much either but when you jump out to call it fucking stupid and wrong and logically incorrect and utter bullshit it gives off the vibe that you’re pissed

[sinful adder]

That's a fair assessment. I think most power scaling is extremely dumb. I'm mad/annoyed about the idea of it, but I'm not mad at anyone here

[split mortar]

I think powerscaling gets dumb once it goes into dimensionality stuff and past infinite power type strength

And even dumber with beyond space time as a concept things

[untold oracle]

That is why calamity is good with continent-level being the highest

Was it continent?

Or did someone go to moon level

[wheat walrus]

Country level for now

[split mortar]

There’s a dev statement of xeroc being able to put a big hole in the moon but eh

If anyone gets to full moon level I’d imagine it be noxus but we have no info on them

[split mortar]

With scal burning the sea correct?

[wheat walrus]

Yes

[untold oracle]

I was thinking of Xeroc

What do you guys think what’s a feat he could do?

[split mortar]

Omni calced with just normal sunlight they are country likely and continental pushing it a lot iirc

[sleek halo]

he created a recreation similar in power to Scal

who evaporated half a sea

[split mortar]

And did that multiple times

[supple thunder]

are there any theories on what formed the abyss

[split mortar]

It’s a normal geological structure iirc

Like the Mariana Trench

[supple thunder]

i thought it said somewhere that it’s immune to tectonics

“eons of tectonic shifts have left it unaffected” or something

[split mortar]

Then idk what could

Cause it’s before gods

So xeroc couldn’t have made it

[supple thunder]

yea so i was curious if anyone had any ideas

[split mortar]

Only noxus has the strength to then but the abyss has no connection to the distortion

So I don’t know what else it can be other then a geological structure but it’s resistant to their affects

[supple thunder]

maybe it’s like a crack left over from when the world soul shattered

(i have no idea what im talking about)

[sinful adder]

I think you're missing information

The abyss is directly above the brimstone elemental's home, so it is probably volcanic in nature

Especially because of the hydrothermal vents and such

It's also where anahita used to live, and where Silva has been imprisoned twice

3 of the 5 elementals have a direct connection to it

[tall delta]

vaporize a good chunk of the planet instantly

[wheat walrus]

🇮🇹

[solar wharf]

i love it, because i think we need some seriousness here

[split mortar]

Eweeeheheb

[sleek halo]

It being Anahitas home

in the past

I imagine she kept it from changing

until Silva was thrown in and Anahita was slowly forced out

[split mortar]

Maybe yeah

We don’t know how the elementals were in the past so I can imagine she has the potential to be strong enough to do that

[cloud ibex]

you can be serious without being overly aggressive

[sleek halo]

^

one keeps people civil and on topic

the other makes ppl get defensive

perceiving something as an attack doesn’t typically lead to a good conversation

I think what we need is just a mod to reign it in every once and a while

offtopic convos are fine for a short while but it can get pretty fucking egregious

[sinful adder]

I do have a tendency to get annoyed or angry at things a lot

[split mortar]

Especially when they’re just brainrot

[sleek halo]

Yeah

[sleek halo]

That’s fine, just as long as you make sure to not lash out immediately

it’s probably better to just like sit for a bit before responding

[cloud ibex]

it can and it has

[split mortar]

And it will

[wheat walrus]

will it

[split mortar]

Yes, you exist

[wheat walrus]

find me a source for me existing

[split mortar]

The fact monster hunter exists mean you exist

[sleek halo]

kinda like this

[wheat walrus]

existence as we know it is defined by ourselves, we made the term for existing, the definition, and the conditions for existing and for not existing

[split mortar]

I ain’t a philosopher go ask cei or something

[wheat walrus]

[cloud ibex]

fabsol calamity restore my moderator powers so i can throw rocks at people in lore discussion

https://tenor.com/view/praying-gif-3348052254980566268

[wheat walrus]

fabosl

[mighty zenith]

what if i became mod

[sleek halo]

That’d be cool

[wheat walrus]

if garbo became a mod, users would begin turning into astrum aureuses

[mighty zenith]

i could kill people for calling me stinky

[split mortar]

I am not responsible enough for being a mod so no thanks

[split mortar]

Silencing the truth I see

[wheat walrus]

if I locked in I could but I don't want to

[sleek halo]

I think any mod who isn’t a lore writer is simply

afraid of this place

and for good reason

[mighty zenith]

yea

[wheat walrus]

the evil creatures of lore discussion

[sleek halo]

If you don’t know the lore

[mighty zenith]

we're like the enclosure of rabid animals

[sleek halo]

you literally cannot participate

[split mortar]

And that is?

[mighty zenith]

no one wants to go in there but someone has to before they tear each other apart

[sleek halo]

or even understand what the fuck the convo is about

[split mortar]

You can

Ask questions

[split mortar]

Ah fair

[sleek halo]

so figuring out what’s actually on topic

and what’s off topic

can be

difficult

[mighty zenith]

leon hasnt played this game in like 20 years and still shows up

[sleek halo]

same

[wheat walrus]

I have played like a few hours of ferraria and I still show up

I'm omni

[sleek halo]

but I think we genuinely need a semi active mod

[cloud ibex]

me

[sleek halo]

or just someone who lurks occasionally to bring down the stfu hammer

[mighty zenith]

when theres a new mod application ill try

last time i skipped it cause i didnt have enough time for it

[wheat walrus]

something like at the start of the new year iirc

2025

that won't be my year guys

[sleek halo]

I mean I can ask in patreon..

[wheat walrus]

waiting for 2026

[sleek halo]

and hope that they have someone actively be here

[mighty zenith]

2018 will be my year 💚

[wheat walrus]

scratch that

2027 will be my year

[split mortar]

Whose year will be 2026 then

[wheat walrus]

seriously tho 2018 was a banger

my universe began collapsing late 2019...

[sleek halo]

anyway

[mighty zenith]

last good year

[sleek halo]

lore..

lore rn

[wheat walrus]

mhmhmmh

what if we did like the people used to

like look for a random bestiary entry or something like that

and overthink about it

[sleek halo]

that’d be nice

[mighty zenith]

sulphurous skater

[sleek halo]

man

Thinking about that stuff

reminds me of when there were more ppl

who talked here often

[wheat walrus]

"Though their exoskeleton provides minimal protection, their deceptively light weight allows them to run on water. These curious insects are even known to ride acidic bubbles for better vantage points and to escape being devoured by surfacing sea creatures."

[wheat walrus]

most of the earlier 2023 era people are now like

doing addon shtuff

or not that interested in calamity

depends

Trasher
"Despite being equipped with a mouth large enough to swallow a child whole, these crocodiles simply act as scavengers, devouring scraps and bones left over from predators’ meals. Needing to conserve energy due to eating relatively little, they rarely move at their full speed unless they feel threatened."

nice lore right there

[sleek halo]

yea

[split mortar]

That may change when it becomes the mini boss for tier one

[sleek halo]

I hope SSO brings back the 2022 and 2023 ppl

[hot valve]

rea l

[wheat walrus]

this stuff makes me feel lowkey old

[hot valve]

not that I was there then admittedly

[untold oracle]

Hello lorers

[sinful adder]

Man. I told myself I'd play calamity again when SSO released, and that was... 5 years ago???

Some time before the 1.4 port I think

[untold oracle]

What do we talk about

[split mortar]

Atleast SSO is only a few months probably away

[split mortar]

Lore of lore chat I think

[hot valve]

My guess is Jan-Feb

[untold oracle]

Oh ok

[hot valve]

could be later, I hardly mind waiting longer

[split mortar]

Same

[hot valve]

gives me more time to get suggestions in before the update is added 🥴

anyway

Can dragons be like...any kind of form of animal?

I remember hearing some talk about a mammoth dragon
And then yharon plays a bit into bird-like features

[untold oracle]

I’m personally fine enough about the current lore disc

[sinful adder]

I'm amazed that both silksong and SSO have taken so long

I've been waiting for both for... Such a long time...

[untold oracle]

Though it could be good to have a mod to kill those boss taste discussions

[split mortar]

I’m mean, silksong isn’t much above the average time for a game to be made iirc

Just that they told the community about it from the start

[sinful adder]

It was planned to be released 2 years ago and then we've gotten literally 2 sentences about progress since then

[hot valve]

yeah big difference is SSO gets frequent progress updates, more than I've seen for any video game ever

[split mortar]

Scope creep

[sinful adder]

I'm thinking, like, did they run out of money or something???

[split mortar]

Def not hollowknight would have made bank for them

And ther merchandise

[sinful adder]

Sure, but it made bank for them like 8 years ago

Who knows what's up now

[split mortar]

It’s made them millions

[sleek halo]

you can spend millions

[sinful adder]

Concord squandered 400 million in that timespan

[sleek halo]

very easily

when used improperly

[sinful adder]

I don't think they definitely have financial issues

But like... They could...

[sleek halo]

Yeahh

SSO has some major scope creep seemingly

but Idm

[split mortar]

I think it’s highly unlikely they ran out of money and it’s more A scope creep thing

[sleek halo]

I just hope they get what they want out ofnit

[hot valve]

what is scope creep

[sleek halo]

Basically the scope of a project

[split mortar]

When the scope for a project gets bigger

[sinful adder]

They keep wanting to add more stuff

[sleek halo]

continuously gets bigger over

[wheat walrus]

Cosmic Guardian
"Though of the same species as the nameless serpent, their minds and functions are far more basic. They possess very little will of their own and blindly follow the orders of their gluttonous master."

look at this

[hot valve]

Ah okay, thanks

[sinful adder]

This is definitely old lore

[sleek halo]

Sometimes to the point that the original plan for the project is unfathomably different from what is released

[split mortar]

Oh right those exist, yharim even dumber we know what small devourers look like

[hot valve]

yeah that definitely feels like it's getting changed

that entry

[split mortar]

Yeah

[hot valve]

makes sense

[wheat walrus]

was quite sus on this, but then I remembered that iirc Cosmic Guardians are being scrapped

so idk

[hot valve]

that doesn't surprise me actually

[sinful adder]

I bet it's just a summon

Like. Created from mana and nothing else

[hot valve]

considering a DoG rework is in line, cosmic guardians will probably not be kept in it

[split mortar]

How much mana does dog have

Big bones and all

[sinful adder]

It would be funny to put all the removed content in like

GFB

[split mortar]

That may bloat the mods file size a lot

A addon instead

[untold oracle]

Since it is a distortion creature, it could be that they use a completely different power

[wheat walrus]

Stormlion
"Some survivors of Ilmeris’ downfall claim that enough magical lightning surged through the sea during its final days that there existed not a single drop of water without levin coursing through it. Even now, electricity from the battle remains buried in the sands, with several antlions having learned to both channel and harness the former kingdom’s power."

whaw

if only I knew how to math the energy to electrify water rn

[split mortar]

Ontonilou was electrifying the entire sea to fight scal or something iirc

[wheat walrus]

probably

Otonilou* tho

[untold oracle]

Some survivors?

Ilmeris survivors let’s go

[wheat walrus]

apparently

[sleek halo]

Idek if. he

has bones

his biology is fundamentally different from ours

His body structure too

nothing about him is like us seemingly

[split mortar]

Looks like that’s a spine and rib cage

[hot valve]

iirc he has a skeletal system, but that is not inherently bone

[untold oracle]

You could say that they’re not like us

[sleek halo]

when was

this shown?

[wheat walrus]

a few months ago

[hot valve]

when the new sprite was shown

[wheat walrus]

like august I think idk

[hot valve]

reveals his eye scar

[sleek halo]

Yea

[wheat walrus]

actually no

4th september

[sleek halo]

(a lot more than just his eye if u look closely)

[hot valve]

also, according to heart plus iirc
he's slimy

[split mortar]

While ago

Months ago

I think

[sleek halo]

god she

gave y’all such

[split mortar]

It’s before cei dropped a lot of sprites

[sleek halo]

a low resolution

version

jfc

[hot valve]

was shared aug 3rd

[sleek halo]

the other scars are so hard to see, but still very much visible

[hot valve]

oh?

i'm not seeing them, do you mind pointing them out?

[split mortar]

Other scars?

[sleek halo]

pretty sure they’re scars

[hot valve]

actually wait- this is different from the aug 3rd one

there's no lump in the middle of his head

this one i've sent is older

interesting

i assumed those were veins

[split mortar]

Yeah a updated one was dropped at some time

[hot valve]

or something similar to those

[split mortar]

Same

[sleek halo]

they look like scars

so I assume they are

Just lighter ones thn

the one the eye

or maybe older

idk

[untold oracle]

Oh wait he does have a skeleton

[sleek halo]

Well they could very much

[untold oracle]

I love it

[sleek halo]

not be bones

[hot valve]

skeletal systems don't necessarily mean bone

[split mortar]

I assumed they were veins

The scar we see may be months old

[sleek halo]

His teeth are obviously not fuckin enamel and dentin

[sleek halo]

weird veins

considering they’re inconsistent

[hot valve]

cartilage is a thing skeletal systems can be made up of

not that he has that either

[sleek halo]

and very much not in the same places

[split mortar]

And it’s a weird creature from the distortion

[sleek halo]

He probably doesn’t like

even have

blood like us

He doesn’t have our body structure

blood exists to fuel organs with oxygen

[sage berry]

Is Moon Lord stronger than even Yharon when at full power? Where does he really fall in the power scale when he is at full strength?

[hot valve]

for all we know DoG may not even be carbon based

[sleek halo]

who says he needs oxygen

[split mortar]

Far above yharim it’s not even close

[sleek halo]

Fovos would be second

[mighty zenith]

full power fovos was cracked

[sleek halo]

in the verse

[hot valve]

'does the distortion have oxygen' is a very important question i've had for a while

[sleek halo]

He’d beat Yharim

[split mortar]

Fovos would have a chance at beating xeroc imo

[sleek halo]

pretty convincingly

Not easily

but but he’d most certainly win

[mighty zenith]

xeroc would have to put in effort

like actual effort

[sleek halo]

Yharon would honestly be a really easy fight for fovos

[sinful adder]

Why do all the calamity worms have a second set of external jaws?

[sage berry]

Well that’s a bit surprising, I’ll be right back, but I’m curious to hear more… some questions being raised are interesting to me.

[sleek halo]

he’s a fucking giant target

Yharim Imo would be harder than even Zeratros for Fovos to deal with

incredibly small

and incredibly fast

It’d be like fighting a fly but the fly can also hurt you decently

[hot valve]

I have no real idea tbh

[untold oracle]

Mandibles cool ig

I don’t complain

[sinful adder]

All the thousands of dragons working together couldn't beat Fovos, and the average dragon was at plantera level, with the strongest ones at Yharon level and the weakest at slime god level probably

[mighty zenith]

itd be like fighting a hornet more like

[sleek halo]

yeah

But hornets are tbf far easier

[mighty zenith]

its small and frail but can input some serious damage

[sleek halo]

to hit

[split mortar]

The way I see it is
Zeratros is like equal to yharim iirc

[sleek halo]

than a fly

[mighty zenith]

i mean fair

[sleek halo]

Yea

[mighty zenith]

but one fly wont do like
anything to you

[untold oracle]

Is it because they were ambushed so bad or were they prepared, was fovos just that strong?

[hot valve]

I didn't realize most dragons weren't super strong

[sinful adder]

Fovos was just that strong

[sleek halo]

I do not believe

[sinful adder]

Though ambush wouldn't help

[hot valve]

no wonder people were so easily able to cull them to become gods

[sleek halo]

The dragons saw him

coming

also tbf

who’s to say they all worked together

[split mortar]

Fovos attacked chrysadia first or am I going insane

[untold oracle]

Oh cool

Where was this said?

That they saw fovos earlier

[sleek halo]

that’s my opinion

Sorry

[untold oracle]

Oh ok

[sleek halo]

Forgot to preface that

but I doubt the dragons

[sinful adder]

They said "I do not believe the dragons saw him coming" in two messages

Anyways yeah

[sleek halo]

ever faced anything like this before

[sinful adder]

Fovos strong

[untold oracle]

I don’t think all the dragons were loyal to each other

[sleek halo]

So they’d likely not have any idea

[sinful adder]

And probably had some special power

[hot valve]

there's definitely outcast dragons

[sleek halo]

of what the FUCK to do

[split mortar]

They didn’t, otherwise gods would have existed before

[untold oracle]

Speaking of which

[hot valve]

Well
I mean I'm sure dragons had died beforehand

[untold oracle]

Do you guys think there were single incidents of gods in the draconic era?

[sleek halo]

and with most dragons being eidolon level

[hot valve]

isn't it specifically the first auric soul being absorbed that people realized this could be done?

[sleek halo]

all you need is an aoe attack above that

[sinful adder]

No one had the god ritual before then

[sleek halo]

and you wipe the majority

[sinful adder]

So no, no one would have become a god

[split mortar]

Xeroc created the ritual

[sleek halo]

of the dragons out

[split mortar]

So no

[sleek halo]

like literally anything that’s surprasses the durability of an eidolon

in a singular attack

would likely kill/severely injure

like most of the dragons

probably 90% of them

[untold oracle]

Were the dragons aware of the ritual? I assume they did a similiar ritual to the fragments, but did they think the same can be done to them too?

[hot valve]

what happened between xeroc and zeratros was muddy and not really elaborated on but I theorize zeratros told xeroc to absorb the soul and gave him the ritual

[untold oracle]

I headcanon that too

Even better if xeroc was hesitant at first

[hot valve]

neither knowing the consquences of what would come of that

[sleek halo]

I kinda imagine

[hot valve]

It's interesting how little people know of xeroc

[sleek halo]

Xeroc came up with the idea

himself

Zeratros dying and not really being concious

[split mortar]

Not even draedon does

[hot valve]

yeah

[split mortar]

And providence doesnt from a statement

[hot valve]

if draedon doesn't then people really don't know

[untold oracle]

Maybe he thought that he’ll die anyways and it could be dangerous if someone with malevolent intentions got the power?

[sleek halo]

This doesn’t sound like the line of someone

who needed convincing

[sage berry]

I’m trying to process the Fovos situation as I just got back why is he so weak even still was he just never able to heal before he’s summoned by us?

[sleek halo]

“'What is the true price of the past being ever eternal?
Why must our future forever haunt us?'”

[split mortar]

Yeah he was sealed on the moon and seemingly never healed

[sleek halo]

I’m assuming the seal

had put him into a situation where he was unable to use

any magic

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-hop-seal-approaching-seal-seal-dance-seal-jump-gif-9678506940158361702

[sleek halo]

or anything at all

[sage berry]

And so couldn’t heal

[split mortar]

Yeah

[sleek halo]

Considering the second

that seal was broken

he came back

[hot valve]

Now that I think about it, draedon would probably know the locations of various of the last gods remaining yeah?

[sleek halo]

Yeah

Likely

he doesn’t give a fuck tho

[hot valve]

yeah

[sleek halo]

He actively is curious about what would happen

if Yharim lost

and died

he wants to see the impact on society

if they knew Yharim didn’t just die of natural causes

but if he was defeated

[sage berry]

Draedon knows a lot… but I don’t know the limits of his understanding either I feel like there are a lot of detains with him left to be explored.

[sleek halo]

Yharim has kinda

outlived Draedon’s need for him

[hot valve]

Draedon has said so himself iirc

[sleek halo]

as knowledgeable and old

as draedon is

[split mortar]

He knows a lot

[sleek halo]

He doesn’t know of Xeroc

[sage berry]

He doesn’t?!

[hot valve]

Draedon is not omniscient but he knows more than 99% of people

[split mortar]

Nope

[sleek halo]

Draedon had assumed

His exo mechs surpassed all gods

He would be correct

if not for Xeroc

Yharim even says so

[sage berry]

Yharim has said so yes

[split mortar]

The lore item from exos state draedon claims they surpass all gods

But Xeroc is leagues stronger

[sleek halo]

“even he is not privy to the Traitor Almighty”

[sinful adder]

It seems really weird that almost no one knows about Xeroc

[hot valve]

It is a bit strange yeah

[sleek halo]

the gray period lasted for anout

a century iirc

last time cei posted the timeline

[sinful adder]

Yeah but even then

[split mortar]

He has kinda just done nothing since ascending that is garunteed canon

[sleek halo]

Most ppl likely heard tale of him

[sinful adder]

People remember big important things

[sleek halo]

but tbf

I doubt he has visited terraria

in a while

[hot valve]

Xeroc ascending and doing literally nothing

[sleek halo]

or has been spotted

[hot valve]

what was even the point..

[sleek halo]

by anyone

if draedon doesn’t know of him

it’s fair to assume most don’t

[split mortar]

We don’t know what he has been doing if he has

[sinful adder]

Our best guess is that he swore to protect terraria from only external threats and never interfere with the world itself

[split mortar]

Could be in the distortion hunting noxus from a mango leak

[sleek halo]

I mean it’s not like

he needs to involve himself

with Terraria

[hot valve]

that makes sense tbh

[sleek halo]

Things happen

times change

the crusade is about to be over

the era of gods has ended

a new one is beginning

[sage berry]

I would actually, thinking about it, love to see an addon that brings Fovos back to full power, sorry to hold us on the subject, but I just thought of this…

[hot valve]

I can see why yharim is so interested in what is to happen tbh

[sleek halo]

while the planet is in a shitty state now

[sinful adder]

I would imagine that noxus would be quite easy to find, as some big egg thing dormant in the middle with a bunch of stuff connecting to it, but this is entirely headcanon vaguely inspired by old lore

[sleek halo]

It’ll likely be better

[split mortar]

No need to be sorry

But yeah would be cool to see

[sleek halo]

Ngl

[hot valve]

with no dragons and very few gods, the balance of the world has been massively shifted into the hands of...who, exactly? I assume that's one of the big questions Draedon is so curious about

[sleek halo]

I imagine Draedon just going through space and just

runs into Xeroc

and is just like

“What”

“What the fuck”

[untold oracle]

”Gimme sample”

[sleek halo]

Bro even Yharon

wouldn’t have peaked

his interest

as much as Xeroc

[split mortar]

Yeah

[sleek halo]

A god unknown even to him with seemingly the ability to control light?

[split mortar]

Not just light

Primordial light aswell

[sleek halo]

One that far surpasses anything he’s even seen

[real silo]

Since draedon knows about silva but not xeroc and he claims exos are stronger than all gods does that mean silva is weaker than exos

[split mortar]

Yes

[sleek halo]

Yes lilely

[hot valve]

yes

[sleek halo]

it does

Yharim confirms it too

he obviously fought Silva

[hot valve]

considering draedon was around for almost the entire crusade

[sleek halo]

So him saying Draedon would be correct

[hot valve]

it means it's likely every god bar xeroc is weaker than exos

[real silo]

My goat is washed

[sleek halo]

Implies Silva would lose

And it’s not like

Draedon is one

to make unfounded claims

he’s not DoG

[hot valve]

there was probably a few gods stronger than providence that were just really hard to take down, but ultimately still weaker than exos

[real silo]

Jank you should fragment your messages less...

[sleek halo]

I try to sometimes but my brain is wired dumb

[real silo]

brain fog

[cloud ibex]

brain frog

[real silo]

no way...

[sage berry]

Could the Exos gain self awareness and sentience? Would they be complex and understanding enough to do so… I’ve been curious about that, ‘cause surely they could Draedon just prevents it?

[untold oracle]

I think silva before abyssification would be stronger than provi, maybe not dog level

[hot valve]

Draedon likes the exos so much because they aren't filled with sentient life

[real silo]

I'd like to believe silva is yharon level

Based off of fucking nothing

[untold oracle]

They are literally Draedon’s extensions

He controls them with his mind

[split mortar]

They have the artificial brain structure like draedon

They could stir the data needed to be sentient and free but draedon won’t allow it

[untold oracle]

I mean she is a perfect god of a damn strong domain

[hot valve]

What exactly is Hypnos btw
I hear reference to it, is it just scrapped exo brain? Is it planned to be added?

[untold oracle]

Isn’t it a fandom shitpost

[hot valve]

Is it actually

[split mortar]

It’s a meme added when people raided fandom wiki one time iirc

[sleek halo]

I doubt that

[untold oracle]

Yeah

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But it was high quality and has its own addon

[hot valve]

Isn't there an actual pet item for it planned in the future content doc or omething lmao

[sleek halo]

Imo

Silva would be around Braelor

but slightly below

And Imo Braelor is above Yharon

but below Scal and the mechs

He managed to fight Yharim who was equalish to the exo mechs to a standstill

implying relativity

[split mortar]

I think silva isn’t a good combatant, quite strong among the strongest gods but she has very little offensive ability

But she shines in blessing others to extreme lengths seen with Jared and braelor to some extent

[real silo]

Silva's domain is strong but she doesn't seem like the type to be great at fighting

[hot valve]

real question is why didn't DoG eat silva

[real silo]

Didn't want to get wet

[split mortar]

Probably before dog came around

And she didn’t die

[hot valve]

why'd they dump her in the ocean instead of throwing her into their hired wastebin- oh

[split mortar]

So no essence for wof

[hot valve]

before

hm

[sleek halo]

Yharim very much said that Statis went in for a killing blow

[split mortar]

Dog was in the later parts of the crusade

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So it seems to me that the plan was

Have Braelor occupy and match Yharim

[split mortar]

I thought it was him and statis

[sleek halo]

try to entangle their weapons

And then have Statis come in for the last bit

or for Statis to just play assist

[hot valve]

Yeah I don't think we have a concrete timeframe for when DoG joined besides it being later

but how much later

[sleek halo]

cause iirc Braelor was physically

stronger than even Yharim

at the time

based off what Reb said

[real silo]

statis is a bushcamper 💔

[sleek halo]

But Yharim has two things, fuck you armor

and skill

[untold oracle]

How would’ve statis killed him

[sleek halo]

Stab him

[untold oracle]

Does he just kick that hard

[hot valve]

stabby..

[split mortar]

Late enough some people think dog came first

[sleek halo]

probably in a spot

that’s not as heavily armored

[untold oracle]

The waist looks a weak spot

Since it doesn’t have auric iirc

[sleek halo]

Also btw

[hot valve]

likely areas include openings under the helmet where the neck was

[split mortar]

That’s from after the fight

[sleek halo]

With heavy thanatos’ armor is

[split mortar]

It’s the auric Exo armour

Not the normal auric he had

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Imagine how heavy Braelors’ axe is.

Made in the same way

[untold oracle]

Condensed holy wood

[sleek halo]

That axe is probably just as durable as auric

[split mortar]

And how good at keeping its sharpness is

[sleek halo]

and probably even heavier

I imagine he could actually crack and chip

Yharim’s armor

[sage berry]

How much can Thanatos really resist?

[sleek halo]

well considering he makes us do

1 fucking damage

a lot

[hot valve]

well, thanatos' armour is also partially cosmilite

[sage berry]

When a segment isn’t exposed

[sleek halo]

It’s also grown

and made far differently

than the others

[split mortar]

We can’t break Thanatos armour, we hit it when it opens up weak spots

We don’t know just that it’s a fuck ton

[sleek halo]

it’s incredibly fucking durable

Like I don’t think Yharim

could cut through

even with all his strength

It’s probably fair to say Thanatos exceeds Yharim’s durability and own armor

a fair bit

[sage berry]

But it is supposed to be indestructible according to the maker but we can’t always trust him… sure he’ll be honest, likely has no real reason to lie but given he is a scientist it’s more accurate to say he hasn’t found something that can break though it

[sleek halo]

Likely nothing on this planet