#lore-discussion
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Right
No. 
Yes
i remembered somewhere someone says that you would obtain an ability similar to "rebirth" if you do consume yharon's auric soul
Im stealing your liver.
No
that ability is "eternity" iirc, if it isn't a mutant joke
Still
He would be pissed obviously
look at this guy, his face is exactly as wierd as a god could be in calamity, and his name is "god of eternity"
And still stay at aerie?
and he is literally yharim, the one who have really done anything with yharon's soul
Yharim being auric-locked woukd be funnies shit
what a good idea, they should make this in hoog: after the player collected yharon's soul, all lore items disappear or malfunction
however. Again, addons arent canon
true
make it in the souls dlc: after the players collect yharon's soul, mutant implodes
It could be
Depends on the person really
Finlan mentioned 
Alright
Read the convo
What I learned
- Dragon of death was a cool old man
- Dragon of fire was 100% evil
- There’s some funny crystal city outside the game area
- Silva WILL grow back later!!!
- There were 3 original auric dragons
- Yharim got his armor originally from someone/somewhere
Oh yeah
- Cei almost drank napalm when she was 7 (canon to the calamity lore)
average 2 am random cei lore drops
.
just saving this for me to go back and read myself
it was quite the rollercoaster to read through honestly
anyways im gonna make a guess on the first 3
before i read if she said what they were
or anyhting else on them
Rebirth, Death, and Life
That’s my guess for the 1st 3
nice
idk what it is
but i’ll find out sometime soon
It's dragon of death
Cei said he exiled himself, lives alone because everything around him dies, a forest grows out of the things that died because of him
And he's neutral
Yeah this right here would be super weird, a dude not in constant warfare being as skilled as a dude in war for the past century
I only said those 3 because they’re all tied together
My headcanon was the forest that grew because of him were mushrooms
Imo Zeratros wouldn’t be first
Cei said it was a verdant forest
mf creates Gleba just by existing
concept wise atleast
and those 3 are also all dragons known
🤔
Taking note of this (????)
Feel free to
I think there was others too
But those were the dev statements I remember
The Yharim armor part makes me think
Armor left over on the Aerie
Probably made during the Fovos fight/Gray period
Regular ass humans in auric fighting fovos is cool as fuck
I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if dragons had champions the same way some gods had
Makes me wonder if xeroc fought or not
What if Yharim's armor used to be Xeroc's armor?
Also, it would be cool if we could get yharim's beaten up armor after we kill him
It would kill us unless we figure out some special stuff with Yharon soul fragments, or maybe a protective layer between us and the armor
that would mean xeroc would have to be very tall
Actually, why can't you simply touch auric with a glove on?
i dont think we know xeroc's pre-ascension height, do we?
i wonder how tall they were
guess it's like thor's hammer

(I have done basically nothing for it in months)
I also find Ilmeris the least interesting
It could be more interesting with simple background worldbuilding stuff
Which I'm sure it's getting
but regular humans just couldn't wear them, can they?
Okay true but still
whats the lore behind polterghast
Amalgamation of souls from prisoners and others that died in the dungeon
also what bosses are planned to be reworked because going into calamity i didnt expect much but a lot of bosses really are just base game bosses with slight variations, like polterghast plantera, eater of worlds and every worm boss, aureus with king slime, etc
Maybe it just conducts?
Polter, ravager, devourer of gods
And i forgot what else lol
Old duke is getting a slight touch up
That wouldn't make sense
Polter is getting a rework, ravager is too, slime god is kinda? and also in SSO
Not a full on rework though
wait ravager? he was actually one of the more unique bosses whats wrong with him?
Hes literally golem 2 lol
Most boring fight of them all imo
He jumps almost exactly like golem.
Maybe the single rubber glove isn’t enough but Braelor’s ultra-quality tree armor is to let him facetank it?
Slime god rework will be in sso right?
Also OD resprite?
I think there were already something about sg in the changelog
I'm guessing it's a small rework or is it a big one?
Well visual at least, also considering the phase 2 paladin sprites they’ll be reworked too
Crimulan is spiky and ebonian is flying
thats true i guess, hes just a lot more fun than golem since you actually get to choose where you fight him
if you fight golem outside temple room it's 10 times fun
Ya I saw the concept art, the paladins are finally going to be unique.
you can do that???
Rod of discord:
whats the lore for the slime gods why are they crimsoned and corrupted
is the queen slime of equal power level to them
the "actual" slime god is the little orb thing
the paladins are... well, paladins created out of evil biome Substance™️
Queen slime is a paladin of the slime god made with the hallow essence released by wof
queen slime is what happens in hardmode after SG fucks off at the end of the fight and creates a new paladin out of the hallow biome
Then somehow gets stuck in QS and dies after you kill her.
so the slime god transitioned to queen slime?
one way to look at it
Oh my god they were roommates
Yeah, I like that name
More than that
Alright, tell me if I'm missing anyone or anything:
Yharim: Tyrant and main 'villain' of the Calamity mod
Yharon: The last Auric Dragon which were basically the first 'gods' of terraria
Draedon: Just some robot that was created to science
Calamitas: Homeless witch who got adopted by Yharim and the Archmage
Nameless Serpent: DoG who just was a mystery of nature even for Draedon and was lying harder than a instagram influencer.
Xeroc: The first 'god' who ascended through murder of dragons
uhhh
it isn't confirmed if xeroc killed zeratros
i personally believe that zeratros willingly gave up his soul
I don't even know who Zeratros is
Ngl I dont even know about Xeroc
it's the dragon whose soul was absorbed by xeroc
Where mention ?
Theres like no known mention of xeroc in game as far as I'm aware of
requiem iirc
Nameless Deity if you watched some gameplay
Watched some gameplay??
not even close
Of course it is
it isn't
WotG is an unofficial non-canon addon, and ND is a separate entity from Xeroc
Look it up on yt
I know its not cannon but I thought it was heavily implied it was him
ND is very vaguely based on an older iteration of Xeroc's character but at this point even that's pretty different
^
Lemme fix it
Yharim: Main villain yes
Yharon: Last of the auric dragons that ruled before gods
Draedon: (in my opinion) a scientist who moved his consciousness into a robot body and wiped out his memories so that he can research forever without moral restrains
Calamitas: child with immense brimstone magic powers recruited by Yharim (is now in late 20’s)
Devourer of Gods: Distortion snake that was recruited in desperation by Yharim, is loyal to Noxus
Xeroc: the first and arguably strongest god who ascended by consuming an auric soul
arguably?

he is at the universal limit of power iirc
Is't Noxus another of the gods who ascended with Xeroc ?
what do we know about zeratros
No
Noxus is a distortion hivemind boss
nah we don't really know anything about noxus other than it's not from this dimension
dragon of light, king of the dragons and maybe some other things
it's theorized that DoG eats the essence of gods to bring it back to Noxus but the reason he'd do so is unknown
Noxus took notes on ascension and plans to do it on the second best option
God essence
Or
Zeratros' soul pre Yharim boss theory ???
He wants to contaminate the world
Zeratros’ soul
Is fucking gone
(I'm jk I just want more boss)
you'll get one more
maybe three but definitely at least one
Ngl if the Terrarian joined Yharims forces during their crusade his war would have ended sooner
Without DoG and with lower genocide
I'm aware
I am content, but I hate when things end
iunno if it'd help end it considering even now xeroc is way above the terrarian
I was just saying an AT of an evil Terrarian during the war would be interesting
but it could help yharim end the other remaining gods
Two Yharims
I feel like its a bit presumptious to say theyd just be another Yharim
I mean, every player would be a different Terrarian, which makes it possible and impossible at the same time
As they have a higher potential than him
They also have less restriction as you can just mod the shit out of everything
Maybe I should commission someone at some point
To make said concept of the Terrarian and Calamitas as the evil gang, the pair of aces in Yharims hand
yes but THE Terrarian is the player
John terrarian
smt liek that
As a pair of aces is stronger than a singular ace in a hand of poker
Okay thats actually kind of funny
3 - I, Rebecca and Triangle
Technically 4 since we invited the owner of the Brazilian Translation, Pixelnando
Although personally I'm torn because I dont like seeing Calamitas being evil
I feel like the only ones confused by that are the ones who never beat her
And me.... i'm.. a cal developer
yeah..
I dont mean like actually being evil but looking evil/doing bad things
trust me...
Hi cheese
hii
yeah... 
Because she's clearly not evil from what she's saying at the end
Of course
cal was just chilling in her cave when she had a panic attack and attacked you because of yhar trauma
💔
she isnt "evil" but she's also not a saint
She is misguided
No one is born evil or good, its our experiences and environment that shapes us
I……. am Yharim…… raises eyebrow
not kino.
The year is 2077
Every single tooltip and lore entry in Calamity has a Rain World reference in it
Draedon is an iterator and Yharim is an ancient
Artificer was added as Calamitas' pet scug
Fans cheer as the Torrential Calamity expansion is finally released
Peak calamity
I consider cal to be a good person who was severely misguided and still has room for improvement given how she's not very proactive currently but i also can't fully blame her
This should be reality
Also, the Terrarian is immortal for some reason. He can just come back like its the first time he's fighting anyone
no
respawns aren't canon
it's not real
It is real, just not for the character in game.
In fact it can even be proven respawns aren’t canon
Yeah but not in the lore
You respawning is just a game mechanic
In-universe the terrarian dosen't respawn they just
don't die
Draedon says you are too valuable for him to die in the hands of Yharim
why would he care if you just respawn?
Curious
If you could revive, anything that had a shred of intelligence would avoid you.
However someones gonna have to bring Yharim to justice someday
It is still 'cannon' as you, as the player, witness it. You witness the passage of multiple reality. Some of which the Terrarian dies. Many, in fact.
Cannon
what

💣
what are you talkinga bout

that is not even remotely how that works
Its like the fact that Nameless Deity knows he is a character in a game. The game is 'alive' in a sense.
”The terrarian’s lore is up to you” mfs when this
nameless deity also is not canon
because
its not official
WotG isn't canon
it's an addon
That's not how telling a story works.... In the actual story, written by the writers, the terrarian dosen't respawn, regardless of what it may seem like ingame
If you watch a tv show you can't just say the characters are (canonically) stuck in a infinite time loop because you can watch the same tv episode repeatedly if you want...
real
Nevermind, I'm not gonna explain this to you
by default its not canon
you can make it canon
but the default, blank slate terrarian doesnt respawn canonically
Yea
So basically the terrarian... has only one life like everyone else
Just found this funny
Yes!
I also just wanna say: being able to respawn removes all tension
True
Why are you acting so pretentious
Like..... you just showed up, made a innacurate claim about the lore in the lore channel for discussing lore (Which is fine), was corrected, then insisted on being correct using some very strange logic, and now are acting as if we are stupid and don't understand you
That's just sorta weird
Because you do not, in fact, understand me.
I think i'm being civil though...
What do you mean then,,,
I think one of the cool times ive seen immortality used in a story is sucker for love 2, where if you did something that would kill you, you'll feel that pain forever, and the antagonist is trying to destroy the world to stop feeling said pain
Respawn isn't canon 
Whar
You know what is canon
That was a pretty accurate description
It'll be easier to not look pretentious if you actually explain what you mean... because right now it just seems like you're justifying respawning being canon on the basis that "We can witness it" when we are a external force not actually present in the narrative in any way (The player isn't diagetic in calamity like in undertale, per example) and Nameless Deity which isn't a character belonging to calamity lore and is it's own, fanmade thing with no actual bearing here
that's pretty awesome actually
There’s your dev statement
The dev statement has already been stated times before iirc
my mom
Mhm
I was gonna say
Anyways I dont know why it took me so long to come around to Calamitas
I don't have the strength to explain more than this. You just disagree. Good for you.
hiya
Goos

When I first played the mod I honestly didnt really know how to feel about any of the characters
I mean a dev literally came here to tell you that you're wrong
It seems my efforts to have a civil discussion are pointless
delt
I was more like "haha funny sword go whoosh"
Are you saying they are wrong too?
If you believe respawn is a thing, that's just your headcanon
ye
Yeah
headcanons are fine
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Then again Calamity mod as a whole is basically Terraria headcanon...
but acting as if it canon when it objectively isnt and then being pretentious when told you're wrong and actively ignoring attempts at communication is
yeah

anyways
Something, something, infinite timelines means infinite possibilities, which means Terrarian dies before killing Yharim.
I think.
I've explained several times here why respawn is fundamentally problematic in the context of Calamity
I believe that is what they are saying?
I considered this but then they brought up ND saying the game is alive
which
And it doesnt take much for me to understand why its a bad idea
implies they meant it literally
Imagine the climatic battle against calamitas, the terrarian dies, and then just wakes up in their bed and says "aight time for round two"
i don't wanna dwell on it though.... it just be like that sometimes
this right here
Yes.
yeah
terrahog day
dragon of death was one of the first three auric dragons
Yeah
Tension/stakes go poof, enemies and allies suddenly act a lot differently around you, the power scale within universe shifts violently....
Back when I was early into calamity I liked Yharim lmao
brought up the napalm incident again
Although some stories have made it interesting when the challenge is so impossible that respawning was rendered useless
I was gaslighted proper
I mean i still like Yharim
but as a character
He's a really well written villain
Terrible person tho
if you can respawn then the terrarian is just the strongest being ever which is, so so dumb
Yeah
Undertale is an example of respawn done incredibly right
Villain? Terrible person? What are you talking about?
Undertale builds its whole narrative on respawning
which is why it works
theres thought put into it
Its heavily implied that they the other children basically gave up at Asgore
i never liked yharim as a person at all, but i only realised the full extent of his atrocities after seeing people discuss them
unter tal
Hunter mail
youll get it eventually
Sands is under the table.

Some ppl in another server said that respawning is canon because in rotjd it says ”this is a fight you cannot win” lmao
Would Karmatic Retribution have any effect on Calamitas
ut/dr are sort of alongside ocarina of time for me
as in
thjey're some of my favorite games of all time but i'm just not super vocal about them
What?
something something karma is fanon
Same
ive never beaten UT geno just because I dont have fun with sans lmao
i mean
ill eat undying up tho, I love that fight
makes sense
Yeah
sans being not fun was like
KR is actually in Undertale though
the point
Enjoy
I found homestuck through undertale though so it doomed me for life 
Along with the vanilla Bestiary rewrite list
I mean not really, the leadup is
i saw the rwerite liost,,, some rly interesting stuff there
And it is never explained beyond two letters and a poisoning mechanic.
why is mf
its not ever called karmic retribution anywhere
You guys should have plenty to talk/speculate about
the two geno bosses are meant to be like the climatic conclusion to all your grinding
goblin thiefs actually stole yharims yharim bar supply
Goblin Thief entry is exploring something that already exists, but people don't give due attention
KR - Kalamity Rmod
my man has the strongest material ever but no crafting station 😭
i imagine them to be some sort of highly-divergent primate
which lost all of its hair and turned Green for Some Reason
Are goblins in new lore still former humans
You know, I once wrote a draft for a draconic Karmic system, following what I had settled on as Auric Dragon philosophy
was this a thing in old lore
I dyed them green until it stuck forever
It's not gonna be used, but the general philosophical outlines will
I don't think that was ever the case
Convergent evolution but it is with humanity and sapience.
Flame Dragon is gonna explore the immoral side of the draconic karmic spectrum
no idea how i came to that conclusion 
I genuinely have a question… maybe someone here can tell me the answer: will Yharon be reborn again after his fall by the hands of the player? Or did us using the fragments of his soul mean he cannot come back well and truly?
Could you give a hint?
yknow
Yes.
my playlist just went to the ridley them from ssbu
he will rebirth, yes
and with stip mentioning flame dragon
in like a decade or so, but he will be back eventually
i am now picturing flame dragon with ridley's personality
Hey if I ever get to writing an Calamity Endgame fanfic can yall give me feedback here
Space pirate led by an actual dragon.
Okay, so isn’t he the last of the dragons? Won’t that mean he’s the last forever? Or can he truly die?
I'm not exactly the best writer myself and I'd like to make sure I'm not getting details entirely wrong
Being Mean Is Not Nice.....
he could only be gone for good if somebody absorbed his soul, which'll realistically never happen
Yup
Thanks
Yharon is the last dragon
Time to write a timeline of events
He can't actually die unless someone absorbs his auric soul through the ritual
Yes, nearly yes, yes. If his soul is absorbed, then he will die. But everyone who knows how to absorb Auric Souls are not willing to absorb Yharon's, because they are already Gods.
Dragon of flame going up to providence and telling her he killed and ate her parents
Okay got it
Yes, he'll be reborn
His soul is mostly intact
His soul also broke off during the fight slightly, but the fragments are so small that it is inconsequential.
‘Cause I’m still thinking of the possibility of the hero of the era having to lock his equipment away if he decides to in some sense step down from godhood after finishing the gods off too. With the infernum being cannon in this world I’m making it trying to find out what all it so dangerous he’d have to keep it away from the hands of normal people. Some are obvious, the auric armor, Hyperplane matrix, arc of the cosmos, terminus… and I’m sure there’s a lot more…
Ahh just personal cannon stuff don’t worry…
Also talking about goblins, i think it's interesting to think the hardmode goblin minibosses are called
Goblin warlocks
Which implies their powers likely derives from some external being that granted them such power
Xeroc
I don't think Shadowflame has much to do with xeroc... Even if he can manipulate shadows i don't think shadowflame specifically would fit his motif
A God, perhaps? Shadowflame isn't seen anywhere else aside from the goblins, I believe.
This obviously implies the existence of the scariest god
Goblin warlocks paid their
Goblin God
I’ll stop
1233popcorn
godlin
Good morning USA
Killed the Dragon of Ghouls
Yes
how dare you call me america
oh my god
sure, garbo, sure
he psyched us iut
As long as you have some sort of evidence.
holy shit
Isekai’d Terrarian
- Statis is associated with Shadowflame through Statis's Curse, which applies Shadowflame on minion hit
- Goblins are also associated through Shadowflame for plenty of obvious reasons
- Goblin "Warlock" implies they get their Shadowflame powers from external forces of some sort
- Statis is associated with Signus, who is a entity who makes "Deals" with beings, for a price
do u guys... understand
Statis is a Goblin?
DoG should inflict shadowflame, clearly
Yeah I got it

I mean
Goblins should inflict extreme gravity
That would track
Also, Statis' Curse has Shadowflame because of The First Shadowflame, not because it is related to Statis (or else Statis' Blessing would also have it).
Well but it's still a Statis item is it not
They wouldn't keep it as one if they didn't want it to be associated with him
The first shadowflame being part of the craft is just there cuz acessory upgrades are cool,, its a gameplay thing progbably
plus you could connect statis' curse to signus
statis' blessing - slime god
statis' curse - signus
Possibly.
who is statis cursing or blessing?
to the signus resprite
Anyways, Clothier also has ties to Shadowflame, for some reason.
The belt
they're similar
it's the same purple fabric/cloth
They aren't. It is " Statis' ", which means it is belonging to him.
Wait...
After bestiary rewrite comes i might read like
the entire bestiary..
like, all of it..
Statis is a Rogue/Summoner hybrid confirmed?
someone is cursing or blessing statis?
However long he’s been mucking around on terraria
Isn’t known really
since the vanilla entries that haven't been rewritten could still be meaningful or else they'd have been rewritten
actually i think it's literally the same palette
yeah the non-rewritten ones are either just not worth changing or fit the lore
On my way to beat up a depressed paraplegic to steal his shadowflame drip
Perhaps
and it's made with TFS, which drops from goblins, further tying goblins with signus
so...
i feel like my theory is actually plausible maybe 
it's made with team four star..............

Yea
Also I’d like more Signus lore
dont
Btw after signus rework we wont really kill it for good right? I forgot if we do or not
P sure we will
VAGABUNDO
LMAO
The brazil
vagabundo 😭
there is no recorded history of Signus before the deific era
What
🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵 VAGABUNDO (@ devourer)
Clothier shoots Shadowflame skulls. Either Signus came into contact with Clothier, which would mean he is either a Goblin or an Onyx Kinsmen.
incomprehensible, eu não falo português
I mean
not really,,,
he could still have come into contact with him
Yharim liar...
Clothier is a goblin
Wait
But that doesn’t necessarily mean he didn’t visit
its not like signus is restricted to making deals with only goblins or kinsmen
That is called theft.
Why are everyone goblins
mind goblins
What’s that
what if,,,, clothier made a deal with signus to get rid of his curse,,, but signus fucked him over,,,

So true
(theres no evidence for this im just making shit up cause its fun)
Crazy
(sees anything associated with shadowflame) hidden goblin agent spotted
i do think signus being a monkey's paw asshole would be fitting
I mean isn’t it obvious.,.,.
he's an eldritch alien from another dimension
why would you trust him ever
id love if signus was a faustian bargain/monkey paw type thing
like
he will get your side of the deal done, yes
but there's no guarantee he won't twist your wish to fuck you over but still be technically right
I believe this is already implied with how
Braelor is still in the Distortion.
And Statis isn't.
I kinda imagine
What would the Goblins's "monkey paw effect" be?
Signus never does anything with malicious intent
Wait. Ok. Idea
Just does it the way he views it
They were humans
And now
and if that fucks you over
They’re goblins
No i don't like that idea tbh
it wasn’t intentional
I think that's a really boring way to do it
why did the onyx kinsmen worship signus
Hear me out...
Maybe it is something to do with why they invade places?
I personally think
You know how Goblins don't seem to have any sort of establishments or civilizations ingame?
And how they're only seen invading?
What if Goblins were cursed in some way to literally be physically incapable of actually making their own settlements, and are forced to live off pillaging and raiding other civilizations
My first thought that it is a curse similar to the real life Flying Dutchman, where it is unable to take port.
For some group of people to get some benefit for them and their lineage worshipping him
which just also got other people into it
Cheese can you explain the backstory of Grandpa being in signus’ collection
I'm fully aware that realistically goblins probably just have a settlement in another part of the world we don't visit but i think this idea is rly cool so .....
He was getting old and senile and asked for the power to make his bones stronger
His bones were made stronger 
But this is how I kinda view him
he doesn’t need to lie, or be outright evil
Just doing shit to live
its his job basically
He’s obviously a powerful creature
as it’s stated you need immense energy to rip open a portal to the distortion
I wonder why Statis does what it does
Why the Onyx Kinsmen, what does it benefit from having Statis' arms and legs?
Yeah
Signus going home to add Leg and Arm to his collection
Signus doesn’t do what what Signus does for Signus.
Signus does what Signus does because Signus is… Signus.
signus minecraft played by jack black
That’s a lot of Signus
Not enough signus
Statis: “I’m not going to lie Braelor, getting out of this place is gonna cost an arm and a leg.”
Signus: “Arm and a leg you say?”
Is signus the plural of signus
Featuring:
-Dead goldfish
-Broken tv remote
-Dad
-Cold Spaghetti
-Germany
-Big tophat
-Small tophat
-Toucan
yup... all of it
signus made a deal with papyrus ?!
what did he ask for,,,
Blue bone
How big is his storage
Does Signus make a tophat stack with those tophats?
Yk what’s interesting
more than 5 meters atleast
Damn
The amount of giving and taking from strong entities in cal
That’s a big collection he has
If you want more specifically
Hello reb
Silva’s blessings, Singus’ deals, Yharim saying Providence literally took life from her followers or smthing along those lines
Torch being
Torch God is a Distortion entity.
Nah
so basically just clarifying its not a god
I changed that because
TORCH GOD IS NOXUS ROLE PLAYING
The ability to become attuned
with a Dragon
Torch God being outright specified as a deity stiffles what it could be in Cal
Torch thing
It can still be a God
That would be so fucking sad
Torch creature is hilarious im going with that
It's literally called one 
He ate the dragon of regular light
fair
TORCHES
I always had a headcanon that Xeroc is spying on you from torches
he ate the dragon of wax
actually no
torches dont even have wax on them... thats candles
I wonder if anyone made a Torch God backstory ever.
dragon of candles
dragon of sticks
dragon of sticks!
But by going "it's an unknown entity", it keeps the idea of
"Torch God could be literally anything"
And this is what I wanted to keep
Imagine absorbing an auric soul
i'm sticking to the "torch god is a carbon monoxide poisoning induced hallucination" theory because it's funny
Are there any europeans in the team, not including translation ones? 
And you turn into a torch
Hey chat what we loring
you know what
I don't want to confine Torch God to being a deity inside Cal Lore
that is funny
Something I wonder
im stealing that
I'm also doing this
Is there other systems of power other than just mana
What if Torch God are the gel used in torches throwing themselves to attack you because they notice a large amount of eachother in a room.
He's player's schizophrenia
Imo primordial light is one
And the ''torch gods favour" is just the terrarian learning to be responsible because they're traumatized and don't want it to happen again
Souls.
What if you are observing like really far away?
And the World Soul.
Byeah
(Seperate)
That's why I changed the Torch God entry
shhhh
Because I didn't want to stiffle possibilities over Torch God's origins
like my idea is just Primordial light serves as an alternative to mana
just it’s absurdly hard to actually use
and not very reliable when your domain isn’t it
as shown by EoL
Souls are literal souls. The Mechs, Polterghast, Plantera and other stuff are powered by Souls. Auric Dragons and Gods use their connection to the World Soul to take in power.
True, itd be hilarious though for someone to have consumed an auric soul just to become a torch god of all things (its better to not go that way though)
Interesting. What would you make it then? 
I mean, it's still a possibility
Again
It's literally called Torch God
Gorsch todd
Torch God being an actual God is still possible
I can see it making sense, starlight is used by empress and that’s going to be similiar to raw unchanged mana and primordial light acts like it but much stronger
I just wanted to make so
Out of context stip
Also.
Torch God could also be something else
what did memes do...
Just 20hp smh….
I found some stuff I'd like to talk about relating to stars, but right now isn't the best time, and I need more evidence.
Fair
Give me the underbaked bread
Torch god is a extension of the world soul acting to be benevolent
Todd Gorch is part of Haggbart Slark's squad
Stars are a type of magic, and aren't literally mana. They turn into this magic when mana condenses, which can only normally be possible in space.
Memes, Metarex, I think Kraken, and probably more
p sure kraken is european yea
I started thinking about this because Stipulate Venus said that Empress of Light wasn't just using mana when in her night form.
calamity english translation
true
Maybe I could work on a translation too
Calamity: Do Nothing Addon.
Well doesn’t she get her power at night
The best addon
I have been doing vanilla translating a fair bit alreadu
Oh, much more than I thought
Thanks for answering 
It says she uses starlight at night.
its funny that it does nothing but it could honestly be a good name for a google translated version of calamity
I'm fairly sure I said there's more to her powers than just starlight, not that :p
Ain’t that yharim talk though
Fact checked by Draedon
No problem!
“Though her title is lofty, she is more an emissary for the powers beyond and forces of nature.”
Powers beyond imo
She is a fairy
Means stuff in space
They can do weird stuff
like the giant ass sun
EoL lore 
Ah so she works for xeroc
im going to kill you
I don't hesitate to say EoL is probably the weakest link in the original lore rewrite
They quite literally embody an aspect of nature
Not if you have no skin on your legs
She is
So wack
Yeah..
Which is why we're considering rewriting a part of it
I feel like her harness PL is good
i already didnt
removing the nonexistent skin from my legs does nothing
Now we need fact checked by draedon stickers……
Because it feels like something that should be possible
Then I shall remove your legs
Though it's not a simple process, since we said we wouldn't retcon stuff and we still wanna do that as little as possible
Mostly the forces of nature part if I recall
Also it’s “I already don’t”
Well
But even if we do rewrite EoL, the PL harnessing and siphoning power from others will obviously stay
I would say the potential ties to xeroc may be a big tie
I doubt she’s tied to him
Xeroc doesn’t even bother to bring her up in BR
when actively talking about your accomplishments
Ive had to rewrite a timeline of events three times at this point
writing for a story is hard
I doubt any other god could grant that level of primordial light
@woeful karma murder this user
I imagine she doesn’t have it granted
they will never find the body
yeah i agree
Ah thank you for getting rid of galssius cannonius
fool
Mhm
You cannot escape the brainrot
i will sog you
wrong
Actually let me just DM it to you so I'm not flooding the chat
You cannot deny the truth
ah but i can deny falsehoods
Uh oh it’s the stinker
Lore accurate
Of which there are none
Calamitas is always smelly
And Garbo

Because she lived in a cave with no plumbing
dont call calamitas stinky
thats rude
you're rude
Yeah
this, chat, is what we call a lie
But when you meet her she probably would actually be stinky
Theres not much you can wash yourself with in a cave
no soap no conditioner
Brimstone is sulphur and that is the causing of the smell of farts
Scal attacks you with farts as hot as the sun
Any water in the caverns probably filthy as shit too
i dont know if you know this but you can go outside
Garbo can’t escape the stinky allegations
Still no soap outside
Actually isn’t cave water pretty clean
yes
Not all of it
Especially if its stagnant
I headcanon that scal had a waterfall on the cave
Like the cave opening was behind a waterfall
im not threatened by proofless allegations
Calamitas is scared of water, due to the Ilmeris Incineration.
You’re in love with a robot covered in rotten star entrails I doubt you are clean
i can fix him
I am going to make Calamitas take an actual shower when she reaches town
That ain’t going to stop the rotten entrails stinking you
Lies
fixing includes un-stinkifying
0% microplastics
Nuh uh
In this image yes
Because this is headcanon
No way she would be just like me fr fr
is this the new boss taste discussion
except its not a discussion and it ends after one question
Yes
This whole convo has been an ego boost for me
she is
You are gaining calamity points for each image repost
This is the twentieth time I have seen this question asked while my time here.
How any type of magic smells depends on what mana you are most in tune with; to those accustomed to celestial magic and astrology, the mana which acts as the foundation of the astral infection would smell rotten, for they can instinctually sense the twisted intentions of its primitive mind. To those as alien to the astral infection as the infection is to Terraria, however, it would have a sickeningly sweet aroma: an attempt to beckon them, reaching their minds unimpeded due to their lack of understanding of its true nature.
this message made me come up with this
i kinda like it
That is pretty good
I agree with deltaw
Stuff like the celestial fragments and meld blob stuff I imagine
And the astral infection
headcanon thing, i still need to explore it a little more before sharing anything (if i do at all) because it's currently just scattered ideas in my head
but yeah it would include what melon said
to some degree, anyway
Having those ideas written down is still good
I’m surprised that me saying this inspired that though
Great creativity there goose
turns out calling garbo stinky is both true AND productive
Speaking of headcanons
Wrong screenshot
Here it is
Why all the trees come from the same acorn
This about how normal acorn grows every tree
WAH armoured digger just spawned in???????
Crazy
that's happened to me thrice in the past four years
I don’t understand what they are
that marks the fourth one
Yeah they do that
seriously why do they feel so rare
I had to fight like three of them when making scal arena
and why the fuck does it drop demonic bone ash
Lore implications????
You were underground?
Armoured diggers are underground worms that spawn and are rare
They’re how you get a endless dubious plating and circuitry
Mechanized bone serpents
Why not
Idk
Yes
Oh shit
The ice biome annihilation made a nice space in the underground
That’s awesome
To build into
The what
By the way the top and bottom are asymmetrical as you can notice
Uhh
They scal’d the ice biome
Do I have a photo….
you can also use an extractinator on power cells iirc
The first one is the early phase and the second one was after I deleted it all the way to underworld (was making said scal arena)
Oil baron type behaviour
Bro litteraly supreme calamitas’d the ice biome





