#lore-discussion

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frank dune
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I know the ritual

calm patio
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Wrong

frank dune
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Right

calm patio
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No. L_WalterWhite

frank dune
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Yesnothoughtsheadempty

jaunty niche
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i remembered somewhere someone says that you would obtain an ability similar to "rebirth" if you do consume yharon's auric soul

calm patio
frank dune
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No

calm patio
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This isnt a choice.

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Anyways

jaunty niche
frank dune
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Still

frank dune
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I need to know how possibly yharim would react

calm patio
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He would be pissed obviously

jaunty niche
frank dune
calm patio
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Idk

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Plus im pretty sure yharim will just implode wouldnt he coz him being attuned

jaunty niche
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and he is literally yharim, the one who have really done anything with yharon's soulXD

jaunty niche
calm patio
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however. Again, addons arent canon

jaunty niche
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true

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make it in the souls dlc: after the players collect yharon's soul, mutant implodes

cloud ibex
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Depends on the person really

untold oracle
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Finlan mentioned HDMood

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Alright

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Read the convo

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What I learned

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  • Dragon of death was a cool old man
  • Dragon of fire was 100% evil
  • There’s some funny crystal city outside the game area
  • Silva WILL grow back later!!!
  • There were 3 original auric dragons
  • Yharim got his armor originally from someone/somewhere
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Oh yeah

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  • Cei almost drank napalm when she was 7 (canon to the calamity lore)
sleek halo
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.

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just saving this for me to go back and read myself

hoary berry
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it was quite the rollercoaster to read through honestly

sleek halo
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before i read if she said what they were

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or anyhting else on them

real silo
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Can you believe it jank

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My headcanon became 95% canon

sleek halo
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That’s my guess for the 1st 3

sleek halo
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idk what it is

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but i’ll find out sometime soon

real silo
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It's dragon of death

sinful adder
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Rebirth was probably later

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I think

real silo
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Cei said he exiled himself, lives alone because everything around him dies, a forest grows out of the things that died because of him

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And he's neutral

sinful adder
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But it's a weird unnatural forest

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(bones plants? Mushrooms?)

real silo
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Yea idk what that means

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cei said verdant which means green

sleek halo
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Yeah this right here would be super weird, a dude not in constant warfare being as skilled as a dude in war for the past century

sleek halo
real silo
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My headcanon was the forest that grew because of him were mushrooms

sleek halo
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Imo Zeratros wouldn’t be first

real silo
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Cei said it was a verdant forest

cloud ibex
sinful adder
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Verdant can maybe also just mean lush

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Maybe

sleek halo
sinful adder
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Glowing mushrooms are very much death related in calamity

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They reanimate the dead

sleek halo
devout grotto
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Taking note of this (????)

untold oracle
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Feel free to

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I think there was others too

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But those were the dev statements I remember

sleek halo
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The Yharim armor part makes me think

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Armor left over on the Aerie

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Probably made during the Fovos fight/Gray period

real silo
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Regular ass humans in auric fighting fovos is cool as fuck

sleek halo
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Or the idea that other people attuned with dragons

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fought for them

untold oracle
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I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if dragons had champions the same way some gods had

real silo
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Makes me wonder if xeroc fought or not

untold oracle
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I think he could’ve been some strategist

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But maybe some warrior too

sinful adder
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What if Yharim's armor used to be Xeroc's armor?

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Also, it would be cool if we could get yharim's beaten up armor after we kill him

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It would kill us unless we figure out some special stuff with Yharon soul fragments, or maybe a protective layer between us and the armor

hoary berry
sinful adder
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Actually, why can't you simply touch auric with a glove on?

hoary berry
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i dont think we know xeroc's pre-ascension height, do we?

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i wonder how tall they were

sinful adder
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It's probably like, sentient or something

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And knows what's trying to touch it

torpid needle
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guess it's like thor's hammer

cosmic zenith
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clueless
(I have done basically nothing for it in months)

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I also find Ilmeris the least interesting

sinful adder
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It could be more interesting with simple background worldbuilding stuff

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Which I'm sure it's getting

jaunty niche
real silo
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Okay true but still

stark basalt
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whats the lore behind polterghast

hot valve
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Nah the indomitable human spirit locks in

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Trust

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Fovos…it’s humaning time

lusty grove
stark basalt
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also what bosses are planned to be reworked because going into calamity i didnt expect much but a lot of bosses really are just base game bosses with slight variations, like polterghast plantera, eater of worlds and every worm boss, aureus with king slime, etc

untold oracle
lusty grove
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And i forgot what else lol

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Old duke is getting a slight touch up

sinful adder
untold oracle
lusty grove
stark basalt
lusty grove
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Most boring fight of them all imo

cold owl
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He jumps almost exactly like golem.

untold oracle
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Slime god rework will be in sso right?

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Also OD resprite?

jaunty niche
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I think there were already something about sg in the changelog

cold owl
untold oracle
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Crimulan is spiky and ebonian is flying

stark basalt
jaunty niche
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if you fight golem outside temple room it's 10 times fun

cold owl
stark basalt
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you can do that???

untold oracle
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Rod of discord:

stark basalt
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whats the lore for the slime gods why are they crimsoned and corrupted

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is the queen slime of equal power level to them

cloud ibex
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the "actual" slime god is the little orb thing

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the paladins are... well, paladins created out of evil biome Substance™️

cold owl
cloud ibex
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queen slime is what happens in hardmode after SG fucks off at the end of the fight and creates a new paladin out of the hallow biome

cold owl
slate grail
cloud ibex
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one way to look at it

spring helm
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Oh my god they were roommates

cosmic zenith
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Yeah, I like that name

untold oracle
vagrant surge
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Alright, tell me if I'm missing anyone or anything:
Yharim: Tyrant and main 'villain' of the Calamity mod
Yharon: The last Auric Dragon which were basically the first 'gods' of terraria
Draedon: Just some robot that was created to science
Calamitas: Homeless witch who got adopted by Yharim and the Archmage
Nameless Serpent: DoG who just was a mystery of nature even for Draedon and was lying harder than a instagram influencer.
Xeroc: The first 'god' who ascended through murder of dragons

dusk laurel
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uhhh

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it isn't confirmed if xeroc killed zeratros
i personally believe that zeratros willingly gave up his soul

vagrant surge
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I don't even know who Zeratros is

olive knoll
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Ngl I dont even know about Xeroc

dusk laurel
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it's the dragon whose soul was absorbed by xeroc

vagrant surge
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Where mention ?

olive knoll
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Theres like no known mention of xeroc in game as far as I'm aware of

dusk laurel
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requiem iirc

vagrant surge
dusk laurel
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nameless

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is not

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xeroc

olive knoll
dusk laurel
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not even close

vagrant surge
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Of course it is

cloud ibex
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it isn't

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WotG is an unofficial non-canon addon, and ND is a separate entity from Xeroc

vagrant surge
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I know its not cannon but I thought it was heavily implied it was him

cloud ibex
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ND is very vaguely based on an older iteration of Xeroc's character but at this point even that's pretty different

dusk laurel
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^

untold oracle
# vagrant surge Alright, tell me if I'm missing anyone or anything: Yharim: Tyrant and main 'vil...

Lemme fix it
Yharim: Main villain yes
Yharon: Last of the auric dragons that ruled before gods
Draedon: (in my opinion) a scientist who moved his consciousness into a robot body and wiped out his memories so that he can research forever without moral restrains
Calamitas: child with immense brimstone magic powers recruited by Yharim (is now in late 20’s)
Devourer of Gods: Distortion snake that was recruited in desperation by Yharim, is loyal to Noxus
Xeroc: the first and arguably strongest god who ascended by consuming an auric soul

cloud ibex
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arguably?

dusk laurel
untold oracle
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I mean

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Just to be sure

dusk laurel
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he is at the universal limit of power iirc

vagrant surge
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Is't Noxus another of the gods who ascended with Xeroc ?

frozen zodiac
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what do we know about zeratros

untold oracle
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Noxus is a distortion hivemind boss

cloud ibex
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nah we don't really know anything about noxus other than it's not from this dimension

dusk laurel
cloud ibex
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it's theorized that DoG eats the essence of gods to bring it back to Noxus but the reason he'd do so is unknown

untold oracle
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Noxus took notes on ascension and plans to do it on the second best option

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God essence

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Or

vagrant surge
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Zeratros' soul pre Yharim boss theory ???

untold oracle
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He wants to contaminate the world

dusk laurel
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no.

untold oracle
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Is fucking gone

vagrant surge
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(I'm jk I just want more boss)

cloud ibex
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maybe three but definitely at least one

olive knoll
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Ngl if the Terrarian joined Yharims forces during their crusade his war would have ended sooner

dusk laurel
untold oracle
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Come on

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Calamity adds like

vagrant surge
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Without DoG and with lower genocide

untold oracle
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27 bosses

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Can’t yall be content

olive knoll
vagrant surge
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I am content, but I hate when things end

cloud ibex
olive knoll
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I was just saying an AT of an evil Terrarian during the war would be interesting

dusk laurel
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all things will eventually end

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including calamity

cloud ibex
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but it could help yharim end the other remaining gods

olive knoll
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I feel like its a bit presumptious to say theyd just be another Yharim

vagrant surge
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I mean, every player would be a different Terrarian, which makes it possible and impossible at the same time

olive knoll
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As they have a higher potential than him

vagrant surge
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They also have less restriction as you can just mod the shit out of everything

olive knoll
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Maybe I should commission someone at some point

untold oracle
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Hey

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Aren’t all people

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Terrarians

olive knoll
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To make said concept of the Terrarian and Calamitas as the evil gang, the pair of aces in Yharims hand

vagrant surge
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yes but THE Terrarian is the player

untold oracle
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John terrarian

vagrant surge
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smt liek that

olive knoll
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As a pair of aces is stronger than a singular ace in a hand of poker

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Okay thats actually kind of funny

cosmic zenith
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3 - I, Rebecca and Triangle
Technically 4 since we invited the owner of the Brazilian Translation, Pixelnando

olive knoll
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Although personally I'm torn because I dont like seeing Calamitas being evil

untold oracle
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Cal is not evil

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Although it is a common misconception in the community

vagrant surge
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I feel like the only ones confused by that are the ones who never beat her

pliant ruin
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yeah..

olive knoll
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I dont mean like actually being evil but looking evil/doing bad things

pliant ruin
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trust me...

indigo glade
untold oracle
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Hi cheese

pliant ruin
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hii

dusk laurel
vagrant surge
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Because she's clearly not evil from what she's saying at the end

olive knoll
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Of course

pliant ruin
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cal was just chilling in her cave when she had a panic attack and attacked you because of yhar trauma

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💔

random mulch
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she isnt "evil" but she's also not a saint

vagrant surge
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She is misguided

olive knoll
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No one is born evil or good, its our experiences and environment that shapes us

untold oracle
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I……. am Yharim…… raises eyebrow

dusk laurel
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not kino.

cosmic zenith
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The year is 2077
Every single tooltip and lore entry in Calamity has a Rain World reference in it
Draedon is an iterator and Yharim is an ancient
Artificer was added as Calamitas' pet scug
Fans cheer as the Torrential Calamity expansion is finally released

untold oracle
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Peak calamity

pliant ruin
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I consider cal to be a good person who was severely misguided and still has room for improvement given how she's not very proactive currently but i also can't fully blame her

untold oracle
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This should be reality

vagrant surge
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Also, the Terrarian is immortal for some reason. He can just come back like its the first time he's fighting anyone

pliant ruin
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Nah

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that's not canon

dusk laurel
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no

pliant ruin
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respawns aren't canon

dusk laurel
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it's not real

olive knoll
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The terrarian is canonically a hardcore character

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ie perma death

vagrant surge
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It is real, just not for the character in game.

untold oracle
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In fact it can even be proven respawns aren’t canon

pliant ruin
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You respawning is just a game mechanic

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In-universe the terrarian dosen't respawn they just

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don't die

untold oracle
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Draedon says you are too valuable for him to die in the hands of Yharim

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why would he care if you just respawn?

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Curious

indigo glade
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If you could revive, anything that had a shred of intelligence would avoid you.

olive knoll
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However someones gonna have to bring Yharim to justice someday

vagrant surge
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It is still 'cannon' as you, as the player, witness it. You witness the passage of multiple reality. Some of which the Terrarian dies. Many, in fact.

untold oracle
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Cannon

dusk laurel
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what

pliant ruin
untold oracle
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💣

pliant ruin
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what are you talkinga bout

dusk laurel
mighty zenith
olive knoll
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They're just a hardcore character chat

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its not that hard

vagrant surge
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Its like the fact that Nameless Deity knows he is a character in a game. The game is 'alive' in a sense.

untold oracle
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”The terrarian’s lore is up to you” mfs when this

mighty zenith
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nameless deity also is not canon

pliant ruin
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Nameless deity

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isn't canon

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it's a fanmade character

mighty zenith
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because

its not official

pliant ruin
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That's not how telling a story works.... In the actual story, written by the writers, the terrarian dosen't respawn, regardless of what it may seem like ingame
If you watch a tv show you can't just say the characters are (canonically) stuck in a infinite time loop because you can watch the same tv episode repeatedly if you want...

vagrant surge
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Nevermind, I'm not gonna explain this to you

mighty zenith
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you can make it canon

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but the default, blank slate terrarian doesnt respawn canonically

untold oracle
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Yea

olive knoll
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So basically the terrarian... has only one life like everyone else

untold oracle
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Just found this funny

rotund shore
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I also just wanna say: being able to respawn removes all tension

untold oracle
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True

olive knoll
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Exactly

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Makes writing a fanfic boring

pliant ruin
# vagrant surge Nevermind, I'm not gonna explain this to you

Why are you acting so pretentious
Like..... you just showed up, made a innacurate claim about the lore in the lore channel for discussing lore (Which is fine), was corrected, then insisted on being correct using some very strange logic, and now are acting as if we are stupid and don't understand you

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That's just sorta weird

olive knoll
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Woah woah woah

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How about you two hash this out civily in DMs

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not here

vagrant surge
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Because you do not, in fact, understand me.

pliant ruin
pliant ruin
rotund shore
untold oracle
olive knoll
untold oracle
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That was a pretty accurate description

pliant ruin
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It'll be easier to not look pretentious if you actually explain what you mean... because right now it just seems like you're justifying respawning being canon on the basis that "We can witness it" when we are a external force not actually present in the narrative in any way (The player isn't diagetic in calamity like in undertale, per example) and Nameless Deity which isn't a character belonging to calamity lore and is it's own, fanmade thing with no actual bearing here

untold oracle
dusk laurel
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hai goose

olive knoll
mighty zenith
pliant ruin
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Seems like they're gone

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ok...

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strange

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o well

olive knoll
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Anyways I dont know why it took me so long to come around to Calamitas

vagrant surge
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I don't have the strength to explain more than this. You just disagree. Good for you.

hoary berry
untold oracle
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Goos

olive knoll
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When I first played the mod I honestly didnt really know how to feel about any of the characters

lusty grove
pliant ruin
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It seems my efforts to have a civil discussion are pointless

hoary berry
olive knoll
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I was more like "haha funny sword go whoosh"

lusty grove
cosmic zenith
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If you believe respawn is a thing, that's just your headcanon

pliant ruin
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ye

lusty grove
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Yeah

pliant ruin
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headcanons are fine

cosmic zenith
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

olive knoll
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Then again Calamity mod as a whole is basically Terraria headcanon...

pliant ruin
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but acting as if it canon when it objectively isnt and then being pretentious when told you're wrong and actively ignoring attempts at communication is

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yeah

olive knoll
pliant ruin
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anyways

indigo glade
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Something, something, infinite timelines means infinite possibilities, which means Terrarian dies before killing Yharim.

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I think.

cosmic zenith
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I've explained several times here why respawn is fundamentally problematic in the context of Calamity

indigo glade
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I believe that is what they are saying?

pliant ruin
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which

olive knoll
pliant ruin
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implies they meant it literally

rotund shore
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Imagine the climatic battle against calamitas, the terrarian dies, and then just wakes up in their bed and says "aight time for round two"

pliant ruin
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i don't wanna dwell on it though.... it just be like that sometimes

pliant ruin
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cei was here earlier wasnt she

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didnt she do some lore drops plumg

indigo glade
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Yes.

hoary berry
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yeah

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crystal city

dusk laurel
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yeah

dusk laurel
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dragon of death

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lore

hoary berry
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dragon of death was one of the first three auric dragons

cosmic zenith
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Yeah
Tension/stakes go poof, enemies and allies suddenly act a lot differently around you, the power scale within universe shifts violently....

untold oracle
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Back when I was early into calamity I liked Yharim lmao

hoary berry
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brought up the napalm incident again

olive knoll
untold oracle
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I was gaslighted proper

pliant ruin
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I mean i still like Yharim

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but as a character

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He's a really well written villain

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Terrible person tho

rotund shore
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if you can respawn then the terrarian is just the strongest being ever which is, so so dumb

cosmic zenith
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Yeah
Undertale is an example of respawn done incredibly right

indigo glade
mighty zenith
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Undertale builds its whole narrative on respawning

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which is why it works

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theres thought put into it

olive knoll
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Its heavily implied that they the other children basically gave up at Asgore

pliant ruin
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i love

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under bale

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uder gale

hoary berry
pliant ruin
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unter tal

cosmic zenith
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Hunter mail

mighty zenith
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youll get it eventually

indigo glade
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Sands is under the table.

mighty zenith
untold oracle
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Some ppl in another server said that respawning is canon because in rotjd it says ”this is a fight you cannot win” lmao

olive knoll
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Would Karmatic Retribution have any effect on Calamitas

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
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ut/dr are sort of alongside ocarina of time for me

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as in

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thjey're some of my favorite games of all time but i'm just not super vocal about them

mighty zenith
rotund shore
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ive never beaten UT geno just because I dont have fun with sans lmao

rotund shore
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ill eat undying up tho, I love that fight

mighty zenith
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makes sense

mighty zenith
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sans being not fun was like

olive knoll
mighty zenith
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the point

cosmic zenith
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Enjoy

pliant ruin
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ive never beaten ut geno because it makes me sad

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:(

lusty grove
cosmic zenith
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Along with the vanilla Bestiary rewrite list

rotund shore
pliant ruin
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i saw the rwerite liost,,, some rly interesting stuff there

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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why is mf

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
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goblin thief,,,

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being rewritten

cosmic zenith
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You guys should have plenty to talk/speculate about

rotund shore
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the two geno bosses are meant to be like the climatic conclusion to all your grinding

pliant ruin
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goblin thiefs actually stole yharims yharim bar supply

dusk laurel
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cei mentioned the goblins have a homeland or smth

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outside the continent

cosmic zenith
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Goblin Thief entry is exploring something that already exists, but people don't give due attention

mighty zenith
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KR - Kalamity Rmod

rotund shore
pliant ruin
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have u guys ever thouhgt abt what goblins are

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biologically

dusk laurel
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gobbies

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sinners

pliant ruin
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i imagine them to be some sort of highly-divergent primate

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which lost all of its hair and turned Green for Some Reason

latent bolt
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Are goblins in new lore still former humans

cosmic zenith
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You know, I once wrote a draft for a draconic Karmic system, following what I had settled on as Auric Dragon philosophy

pliant ruin
lusty grove
cosmic zenith
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It's not gonna be used, but the general philosophical outlines will

mighty zenith
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goblins have no origin

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they exist because every fantasy world needs goblins

cosmic zenith
pliant ruin
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i like to think goblins are just a natural species

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calamity phylogeny tree

indigo glade
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Convergent evolution but it is with humanity and sapience.

cosmic zenith
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Flame Dragon is gonna explore the immoral side of the draconic karmic spectrum

latent bolt
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no idea how i came to that conclusion wires

sage berry
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I genuinely have a question… maybe someone here can tell me the answer: will Yharon be reborn again after his fall by the hands of the player? Or did us using the fragments of his soul mean he cannot come back well and truly?

pliant ruin
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yknow

pliant ruin
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my playlist just went to the ridley them from ssbu

pliant ruin
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and with stip mentioning flame dragon

mighty zenith
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in like a decade or so, but he will be back eventually

pliant ruin
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i am now picturing flame dragon with ridley's personality

mighty zenith
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YES

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just an absolute fucking maniac

olive knoll
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Hey if I ever get to writing an Calamity Endgame fanfic can yall give me feedback here

indigo glade
sage berry
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Okay, so isn’t he the last of the dragons? Won’t that mean he’s the last forever? Or can he truly die?

olive knoll
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I'm not exactly the best writer myself and I'd like to make sure I'm not getting details entirely wrong

cloud ibex
rotund shore
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he could only be gone for good if somebody absorbed his soul, which'll realistically never happen

olive knoll
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Thanks

olive knoll
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Time to write a timeline of events

pliant ruin
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He can't actually die unless someone absorbs his auric soul through the ritual

indigo glade
pliant ruin
cosmic zenith
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;)

sage berry
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Okay got it

cosmic zenith
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It's something established even in vanilla

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Though as I said, people never notice

cosmic zenith
indigo glade
sage berry
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‘Cause I’m still thinking of the possibility of the hero of the era having to lock his equipment away if he decides to in some sense step down from godhood after finishing the gods off too. With the infernum being cannon in this world I’m making it trying to find out what all it so dangerous he’d have to keep it away from the hands of normal people. Some are obvious, the auric armor, Hyperplane matrix, arc of the cosmos, terminus… and I’m sure there’s a lot more…

pliant ruin
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Wuh

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What is this in reference to

sage berry
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Ahh just personal cannon stuff don’t worry…

pliant ruin
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Also talking about goblins, i think it's interesting to think the hardmode goblin minibosses are called

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Goblin warlocks

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Which implies their powers likely derives from some external being that granted them such power

spring helm
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Xeroc

sleek halo
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Not

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him probably

pliant ruin
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I don't think Shadowflame has much to do with xeroc... Even if he can manipulate shadows i don't think shadowflame specifically would fit his motif

indigo glade
sleek halo
untold oracle
#

Goblin warlocks paid their

sleek halo
#

Goblin God

untold oracle
#

I’ll stop

hoary berry
mighty zenith
#

godlin

spring helm
pliant ruin
#

Um

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Do you guys wanna hear sort of a crack theory

sleek halo
hoary berry
mighty zenith
#

THEORIES

sleek halo
#

oh my god

hoary berry
#

sure, garbo, sure

sleek halo
#

he psyched us iut

indigo glade
sleek halo
#

holy shit

spring helm
#

Isekai’d Terrarian

pliant ruin
#
  • Statis is associated with Shadowflame through Statis's Curse, which applies Shadowflame on minion hit
  • Goblins are also associated through Shadowflame for plenty of obvious reasons
  • Goblin "Warlock" implies they get their Shadowflame powers from external forces of some sort
  • Statis is associated with Signus, who is a entity who makes "Deals" with beings, for a price
#

do u guys... understand

spring helm
#

Distortion goblins

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Got it

indigo glade
#

Statis is a Goblin?

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
#

no 😭

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i mean

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the being goblins got their powers from

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is signus

mighty zenith
#

DoG should inflict shadowflame, clearly

spring helm
#

Yeah I got it

mighty zenith
sleek halo
spring helm
#

Goblins should inflict extreme gravity

sleek halo
#

That would track

indigo glade
pliant ruin
#

They wouldn't keep it as one if they didn't want it to be associated with him

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The first shadowflame being part of the craft is just there cuz acessory upgrades are cool,, its a gameplay thing progbably

mighty zenith
#

plus you could connect statis' curse to signus

pliant ruin
#

ye

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it has a similar

mighty zenith
#

statis' blessing - slime god
statis' curse - signus

pliant ruin
#

aesthethic

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to the signus resprite, actually

pliant ruin
#

compare the visuals here

jaunty niche
#

who is statis cursing or blessing?

pliant ruin
#

to the signus resprite

indigo glade
#

Anyways, Clothier also has ties to Shadowflame, for some reason.

spring helm
#

The belt

pliant ruin
#

they're similar

mighty zenith
#

yeah like

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it looks like purple material

pliant ruin
#

it's the same purple fabric/cloth

sleek halo
#

I mean

#

Signus likely has ties with a lot of things

indigo glade
#

Wait...

pliant ruin
#

After bestiary rewrite comes i might read like

#

the entire bestiary..

#

like, all of it..

indigo glade
#

Statis is a Rogue/Summoner hybrid confirmed?

jaunty niche
#

someone is cursing or blessing statis?

sleek halo
#

Isn’t known really

pliant ruin
#

since the vanilla entries that haven't been rewritten could still be meaningful or else they'd have been rewritten

sleek halo
#

and what he’s done to even be revered by the onyx kinsmen

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isn’t known either

pliant ruin
mighty zenith
pliant ruin
#

or atleast extremely similar

spring helm
#

On my way to beat up a depressed paraplegic to steal his shadowflame drip

pliant ruin
#

so i think it's almost guaranteed Statis's Curse is

#

associated with signus

sleek halo
#

Perhaps

pliant ruin
#

and it's made with TFS, which drops from goblins, further tying goblins with signus

#

so...

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i feel like my theory is actually plausible maybe plumg

mighty zenith
#

it's made with team four star..............

spring helm
untold oracle
#

Feminine

sleek halo
#

Also I’d like more Signus lore

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
#

how

lusty grove
#

Btw after signus rework we wont really kill it for good right? I forgot if we do or not

sleek halo
#

Unfortunately

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as it’s stated

sleek halo
#

there is no recorded history of Signus before the deific era

spring helm
pliant ruin
#

🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵 VAGABUNDO (@ devourer)

indigo glade
#

Clothier shoots Shadowflame skulls. Either Signus came into contact with Clothier, which would mean he is either a Goblin or an Onyx Kinsmen.

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
#

not really,,,

#

he could still have come into contact with him

indigo glade
#

Yharim liar...

sleek halo
pliant ruin
#

its not like signus is restricted to making deals with only goblins or kinsmen

untold oracle
#

Terrarian can use shadowflame weapons

#

Terrarian is a goblin

indigo glade
untold oracle
#

Why are everyone goblins

pliant ruin
#

mind goblins

spring helm
#

What’s that

pliant ruin
#

its like a goblin with psychic powers

#

:D

mighty zenith
#

what if,,,, clothier made a deal with signus to get rid of his curse,,, but signus fucked him over,,,

spring helm
stark basalt
#

Also plasma rod drops from tim

#

he must be a goblin

mighty zenith
untold oracle
#

Crazy

sleek halo
#

It’d have to be some monkey paws thing

#

Imo

pliant ruin
#

(sees anything associated with shadowflame) hidden goblin agent spotted

sleek halo
#

Cause it’d be weird if Signus can break his deals

#

with no consequence

mighty zenith
#

i do think signus being a monkey's paw asshole would be fitting

untold oracle
mighty zenith
#

he's an eldritch alien from another dimension
why would you trust him ever

pliant ruin
#

id love if signus was a faustian bargain/monkey paw type thing

#

like

#

he will get your side of the deal done, yes

#

but there's no guarantee he won't twist your wish to fuck you over but still be technically right

indigo glade
#

I believe this is already implied with how

#

Braelor is still in the Distortion.

#

And Statis isn't.

pliant ruin
#

The question is..

#

If this is true

pliant ruin
#

What would the Goblins's "monkey paw effect" be?

sleek halo
#

Signus never does anything with malicious intent

pliant ruin
#

Wait. Ok. Idea

sleek halo
#

Just does it the way he views it

untold oracle
#

And now

sleek halo
#

and if that fucks you over

untold oracle
#

They’re goblins

pliant ruin
#

No i don't like that idea tbh

sleek halo
#

it wasn’t intentional

pliant ruin
#

I think that's a really boring way to do it

trim edge
#

why did the onyx kinsmen worship signus

pliant ruin
#

Hear me out...

indigo glade
sleek halo
pliant ruin
#

You know how Goblins don't seem to have any sort of establishments or civilizations ingame?

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And how they're only seen invading?

sleek halo
#

Signus made a deal

#

a long time ago

pliant ruin
#

What if Goblins were cursed in some way to literally be physically incapable of actually making their own settlements, and are forced to live off pillaging and raiding other civilizations

indigo glade
sleek halo
#

For some group of people to get some benefit for them and their lineage worshipping him

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which just also got other people into it

untold oracle
#

Cheese can you explain the backstory of Grandpa being in signus’ collection

pliant ruin
#

I'm fully aware that realistically goblins probably just have a settlement in another part of the world we don't visit but i think this idea is rly cool so .....

pliant ruin
#

His bones were made stronger nso_kangel_thumbs_up

sleek halo
#

he doesn’t need to lie, or be outright evil

#

Just doing shit to live

pliant ruin
#

its his job basically

sleek halo
#

He’s obviously a powerful creature

#

as it’s stated you need immense energy to rip open a portal to the distortion

indigo glade
#

I wonder why Statis does what it does

#

Why the Onyx Kinsmen, what does it benefit from having Statis' arms and legs?

untold oracle
#

It’s a cool thing

#

To add to his collection

pliant ruin
#

He likes collecting things,,,, i said this,,,,

#

dont forget

untold oracle
#

Yeah

pliant ruin
#

Signus going home to add Leg and Arm to his collection

spring helm
#

Signus doesn’t do what what Signus does for Signus.
Signus does what Signus does because Signus is… Signus.

mighty zenith
#

signus minecraft played by jack black

cold owl
#

Not enough signus

spring helm
#

Statis: “I’m not going to lie Braelor, getting out of this place is gonna cost an arm and a leg.”
Signus: “Arm and a leg you say?”

untold oracle
#

Is signus the plural of signus

pliant ruin
#

Featuring:
-Dead goldfish
-Broken tv remote
-Dad
-Cold Spaghetti
-Germany
-Big tophat
-Small tophat
-Toucan

untold oracle
#

Dad too???

#

Damn

#

The entire fucking germany???

pliant ruin
#

yup... all of it

mighty zenith
#

what did he ask for,,,

spring helm
#

Blue bone

untold oracle
indigo glade
sleek halo
#

Yk what’s interesting

pliant ruin
untold oracle
#

Damn

sleek halo
#

The amount of giving and taking from strong entities in cal

untold oracle
#

That’s a big collection he has

spare pier
#

If you want more specifically

untold oracle
#

Hello reb

spare pier
#

Torch God is referred to in the Vanilla Bestiary as

#

"An unseen deity"

sleek halo
#

Silva’s blessings, Singus’ deals, Yharim saying Providence literally took life from her followers or smthing along those lines

spare pier
#

I replaced that with

#

"An unknown entity"

spring helm
#

Oh that’s it?

#

Damn I thought we’d be getting torch god lore

mighty zenith
#

Torch being

indigo glade
#

Torch God is a Distortion entity.

spare pier
mighty zenith
#

so basically just clarifying its not a god

spare pier
#

I changed that because

spring helm
#

TORCH GOD IS NOXUS ROLE PLAYING

sleek halo
#

with a Dragon

spare pier
#

Torch God being outright specified as a deity stiffles what it could be in Cal

pliant ruin
#

Torch thing

spare pier
#

It can still be a God

sleek halo
#

That would be so fucking sad

pliant ruin
#

Torch creature is hilarious im going with that

spare pier
#

It's literally called one HDfailure

sleek halo
#

could you imagine

#

your domain

#

is fucking

spring helm
#

He ate the dragon of regular light

mighty zenith
#

fair

sleek halo
#

TORCHES

untold oracle
#

I always had a headcanon that Xeroc is spying on you from torches

sleek halo
#

LITERALLY TORCHES

#

😭

pliant ruin
#

he ate the dragon of wax

#

actually no

#

torches dont even have wax on them... thats candles

indigo glade
#

I wonder if anyone made a Torch God backstory ever.

trim edge
#

dragon of candles

mighty zenith
#

dragon of sticks

sleek halo
#

so..

pliant ruin
#

dragon of sticks!

spare pier
#

"Torch God could be literally anything"

#

And this is what I wanted to keep

pliant ruin
#

Imagine absorbing an auric soul

cloud ibex
#

i'm sticking to the "torch god is a carbon monoxide poisoning induced hallucination" theory because it's funny

empty dew
pliant ruin
#

And you turn into a torch

split mortar
#

Hey chat what we loring

spare pier
#

I don't want to confine Torch God to being a deity inside Cal Lore

mighty zenith
#

that is funny

sleek halo
#

Something I wonder

mighty zenith
#

im stealing that

sleek halo
#

Is there other systems of power other than just mana

indigo glade
#

What if Torch God are the gel used in torches throwing themselves to attack you because they notice a large amount of eachother in a room.

empty dew
sleek halo
pliant ruin
#

And the ''torch gods favour" is just the terrarian learning to be responsible because they're traumatized and don't want it to happen again

untold oracle
indigo glade
#

And the World Soul.

spare pier
#

Byeah

indigo glade
#

(Seperate)

spare pier
#

That's why I changed the Torch God entry

spare pier
#

Because I didn't want to stiffle possibilities over Torch God's origins

sleek halo
#

just it’s absurdly hard to actually use

#

and not very reliable when your domain isn’t it

#

as shown by EoL

indigo glade
# indigo glade (Seperate)

Souls are literal souls. The Mechs, Polterghast, Plantera and other stuff are powered by Souls. Auric Dragons and Gods use their connection to the World Soul to take in power.

lusty grove
empty dew
spare pier
#

Again

#

It's literally called Torch God

mighty zenith
#

Gorsch todd

spare pier
#

Torch God being an actual God is still possible

split mortar
spare pier
#

I just wanted to make so

spring helm
#

Out of context stip

indigo glade
#

Also.

spare pier
#

Torch God could also be something else

mighty zenith
#

what did memes do...

indigo glade
#

I found some stuff I'd like to talk about relating to stars, but right now isn't the best time, and I need more evidence.

lusty grove
split mortar
#

Torch god is a extension of the world soul acting to be benevolentclueless

cloud ibex
indigo glade
cosmic zenith
eager bluff
#

p sure kraken is european yea

indigo glade
mighty zenith
#

cal polish translation hasnt been updated in like 2 years

#

what if i

cloud ibex
#

calamity english translation

mighty zenith
#

true

untold oracle
#

Maybe I could work on a translation too

indigo glade
sleek halo
split mortar
#

The best addon

untold oracle
#

I have been doing vanilla translating a fair bit alreadu

empty dew
sleek halo
#

from the reflection of the moon..

#

Which is reflecting PL

indigo glade
mighty zenith
cosmic zenith
split mortar
sleek halo
#

Powers beyond imo

spring helm
#

She is a fairy

sleek halo
#

Means stuff in space

spring helm
#

They can do weird stuff

sleek halo
#

like the giant ass sun

cosmic zenith
#

EoL lore nothoughtsheadempty

sleek halo
#

Forces of nature

#

leads me to believe the elementals in some way

split mortar
eager bluff
cosmic zenith
#

I don't hesitate to say EoL is probably the weakest link in the original lore rewrite

sleek halo
split mortar
cosmic zenith
#

She is
So wack

sleek halo
#

Yeah..

cosmic zenith
#

Which is why we're considering rewriting a part of it

sleek halo
#

I feel like her harness PL is good

eager bluff
untold oracle
sleek halo
#

Because it feels like something that should be possible

split mortar
cosmic zenith
#

Though it's not a simple process, since we said we wouldn't retcon stuff and we still wanna do that as little as possible

cold owl
split mortar
cosmic zenith
#

But even if we do rewrite EoL, the PL harnessing and siphoning power from others will obviously stay

sleek halo
#

EoL thankfully isn’t tied to a lot

#

pretty sure

eager bluff
#

:3

split mortar
#

I would say the potential ties to xeroc may be a big tie

sleek halo
#

I doubt she’s tied to him

sleek halo
#

Xeroc doesn’t even bother to bring her up in BR

#

when actively talking about your accomplishments

olive knoll
#

Ive had to rewrite a timeline of events three times at this point

#

writing for a story is hard

split mortar
sleek halo
sleek halo
#

It’s a giant ball of it

#

Using it shouldn’t be impossible

split mortar
sleek halo
#

How much control Xeroc even haves over the sun

#

isn’t known

sleek halo
#

And how much he can control someone using it

#

is also not known

#

if he can at all

untold oracle
untold oracle
olive knoll
#

Calamitous fool

split mortar
olive knoll
#

You cannot escape the brainrot

eager bluff
split mortar
eager bluff
olive knoll
#

Actually let me just DM it to you so I'm not flooding the chat

split mortar
eager bluff
#

ah but i can deny falsehoods

mighty zenith
split mortar
#

Uh oh it’s the stinker

olive knoll
#

Lore accurate

split mortar
olive knoll
#

Calamitas is always smelly

split mortar
#

And Garbo

hoary berry
olive knoll
#

Because she lived in a cave with no plumbing

mighty zenith
#

thats rude

#

you're rude

split mortar
#

Yeah

eager bluff
olive knoll
#

But when you meet her she probably would actually be stinky

#

Theres not much you can wash yourself with in a cave

#

no soap no conditioner

split mortar
#

Brimstone is sulphur and that is the causing of the smell of farts

#

Scal attacks you with farts as hot as the sunclueless

olive knoll
#

Any water in the caverns probably filthy as shit too

eager bluff
untold oracle
#

Garbo can’t escape the stinky allegations

olive knoll
untold oracle
eager bluff
#

yes

olive knoll
#

Especially if its stagnant

untold oracle
#

I headcanon that scal had a waterfall on the cave

#

Like the cave opening was behind a waterfall

mighty zenith
olive knoll
#

Still no soap

#

Water can only do so much

indigo glade
#

Calamitas is scared of water, due to the Ilmeris Incineration.

olive knoll
#

Shes hydrophobic

#

cancel her

split mortar
olive knoll
#

I am going to make Calamitas take an actual shower when she reaches town

split mortar
#

That ain’t going to stop the rotten entrails stinking you

olive knoll
#

She cant beat the stinky and smelly allegations

untold oracle
#

Nooo

#

She’s very clean

olive knoll
#

Lies

untold oracle
#

The waterfall is rich in minerals

#

Very exquisite

mighty zenith
untold oracle
#

0% microplastics

olive knoll
#

Again, water can only clean so much

#

Yes it can clean dirt but not odor

untold oracle
#

Nuh uh

olive knoll
#

Yuh huh

untold oracle
#

Look

#

The hands holding her have soap in them

#

Therefore cal is not stinky

olive knoll
#

Because this is headcanon

untold oracle
#

Guys

#

Would calamitas be a cat person

#

-# XD

olive knoll
#

No way she would be just like me fr fr

mighty zenith
#

except its not a discussion and it ends after one question

split mortar
spring helm
#

This whole convo has been an ego boost for me

cloud ibex
untold oracle
indigo glade
hoary berry
# split mortar That ain’t going to stop the rotten entrails stinking you

How any type of magic smells depends on what mana you are most in tune with; to those accustomed to celestial magic and astrology, the mana which acts as the foundation of the astral infection would smell rotten, for they can instinctually sense the twisted intentions of its primitive mind. To those as alien to the astral infection as the infection is to Terraria, however, it would have a sickeningly sweet aroma: an attempt to beckon them, reaching their minds unimpeded due to their lack of understanding of its true nature.
this message made me come up with this
i kinda like it

untold oracle
#

Goes hard

#

I wonder what celestial magic is

#

But it sounds hella cool

split mortar
#

That is pretty good
I agree with deltaw

split mortar
#

And the astral infection

hoary berry
#

but yeah it would include what melon said

#

to some degree, anyway

split mortar
#

Having those ideas written down is still good

split mortar
hoary berry
#

turns out calling garbo stinky is both true AND productive

spring helm
#

Speaking of headcanons

#

Wrong screenshot

#

Here it is

#

Why all the trees come from the same acorn

split mortar
spring helm
#

Yes

#

This is what I came up with to explain that

hoary berry
#

WAH armoured digger just spawned in???????

spring helm
#

Crazy

hoary berry
#

that's happened to me thrice in the past four years

untold oracle
#

I don’t understand what they are

hoary berry
#

that marks the fourth one

split mortar
hoary berry
untold oracle
#

I had to fight like three of them when making scal arena

hoary berry
#

and why the fuck does it drop demonic bone ash

untold oracle
#

Lore implications????

spring helm
split mortar
untold oracle
#

Mechanized bone serpents

split mortar
spring helm
#

Idk

untold oracle
spring helm
#

Oh shit

untold oracle
#

The ice biome annihilation made a nice space in the underground

spring helm
#

That’s awesome

untold oracle
#

To build into

untold oracle
#

By the way the top and bottom are asymmetrical as you can notice

untold oracle
split mortar
#

They scal’d the ice biome

untold oracle
#

Do I have a photo….

hoary berry
untold oracle
#

The first one is the early phase and the second one was after I deleted it all the way to underworld (was making said scal arena)

spring helm
#

Oil baron type behaviour

split mortar
#

Bro litteraly supreme calamitas’d the ice biome