#lore-discussion
wheat walrus
hardy flower
is silva alive in the abyss
split mortar
Yeah
spring helm
Yesnt
hoary berry
wheat walrus
yes silva is a semi-living corpse in the abyss, her essence allowed life to flourish in the abyss as she slowly regenerates
spring helm
Wait I don’t want to draw that actually nvm
latent bolt
ears...
hardy flower
yes silva is a semi-living corpse in the abyss, her essence allowed life to flou...
thats cool
spring helm
Girl why you so ears
wheat walrus
she also blessed the first eidolon wyrm, also known as the primordial wyrm, giving it even greater powers than it once had, and making it basically the strongest thing in nature other than a few characters like Yharim and Xeroc
split mortar
She is nigh immortal due to being a elemental and their domain being life
hardy flower
will she regen
split mortar
Yea
spring helm
Silva can’t die because she’s an elemental but Yharim basically blender’d her physical body
wheat walrus
will she regen
eventually
latent bolt
what would silva think about discussions about her ears
split mortar
what would silva think about discussions about her ears
Ew
hardy flower
when can i fight her then
untold oracle
I’m gonna hug
wheat walrus
what would silva think about discussions about her ears
whar
spring helm
As described by this (very serious) fanfic I wrote
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RURTNUFPcO-UJL2gKHFAYDdJVksNQv9le2ch-koYsa0/edit
hardy flower
You won’t fight her
aw
split mortar
Silva won’t regen while we play, she takes like years to decades to regen
latent bolt
I’m gonna hug
whar
hoary berry
spring helm
Silva won’t regen while we play, she takes like years to decades to regen
You gotta water her with elemental essence
spring helm
<:yharo:1290724338579931280>
Oh fuck you actually did it lmao
viral juniper
Legends say if you leave a world open for 20 consecutive years you can actually see Silva herself
split mortar
You gotta water her with elemental essence
No wonder anahita left then
untold oracle
As described by this (very serious) fanfic I wrote
https://docs.google.com/docu...
The one piece…
viral juniper
The singular portion is factual
split mortar
The Silva Piece
Remove your liver
spring helm
Who is reading it
hoary berry
me
spring helm
Goose
hoary berry
As a mortal attuned to a Dragon, Yharim was able to sense the presence of auric souls, though it was faint. Although the ritual for Godly Ascension permanently destroyed the Auric Soul, it was done through assimilation. As such, traces of their domains could still be felt, even if they were near indistinguishable from the cosmic background that the Primordial Light painted through the universe. It would take immense focus and will to be able to sense such minute fluctuations.
i love this paragraph
untold oracle
1233popcorn
spring helm
I wrote it as a joke but also used it for worldbuilding
Because idk
I like doing it
Also gives Yharim more powers than
Punch
and
Reject
hoary berry
> As a mortal attuned to a Dragon, Yharim was able to sense the presence of auri...
Behind the noise of the world, behind the Primordial Light, behind even the Eternal Darkness, he felt it. The tiniest ripples across the fabric of space and time. A primaeval force that, although not present in the beginning, dominated the cosmos as one of the strongest energies once catalysed. The echoes of Life.
this one too
hoary berry
Also gives Yharim more powers than
Punch
and
Reject
i like the way you've approached doing this
spring helm
This one came from the fact that life shouldn’t really be an element, since it requires the existence of so many others
One Piece Is Real
split mortar
How much destruction would polter cause if it was set free
spring helm
I wrote this at church
spring helm
How much destruction would polter cause if it was set free
I think the continent would be fucked
split mortar
Same
hoary berry
untold oracle
How much destruction would polter cause if it was set free
It would grow with each kill and each soul merged
split mortar
Yeah that’s why I think the continent atleast would get fucked
spring helm
<:bernie:1290021675131338885>
This is why I wrote it
hoary berry
despicable
mrrp was right though
genuinely tense and immersive build up to a silly punch line
i loved it
spring helm
hoary berry
scenic olive
As described by this (very serious) fanfic I wrote
https://docs.google.com/docu...
the silva piece is reall!!
spring helm
Hello mokkuuu
split mortar
How does an elemental revive? If it needs a soul (we know they have one, Silvas a god) would polter be able to permanently put down somehting like brim
Or would polter like farm a elemental for elemental souls
untold oracle
I guess their soul is in all of the corresponding element
Hence why you gotta wipe out the entire domain to kill an elemental
split mortar
Would this entail that elementals could be related to the world soul
spring helm
Polterghast the elemental hard counter?
untold oracle
I really like the polter design the relic has
I’m unsure about my writing
I think the sentencing is quite awful for the most part and that it lacks something
trim edge
does silva have human skin or is that supposed to be wood
split mortar
Just like how anahita is water but looks fish she prob is entirely plant but looks and prob feels like human skin
untold oracle
I think it’s regular skin, the wood is in the armor, why you asking
split mortar
Could be curiosity
hoary berry
I think the sentencing is quite awful for the most part and that it lacks someth...
show?
split mortar
I think it’s regular skin, the wood is in the armor, why you asking
(Hopefully nothing weird)
trim edge
guess silva and anahita are exceptions?
the other elementals seem to be made of their element
there is also the morality tier list by cei which shows brimmy as lacking morality but anahita as evil
maybe anahita is also more sapient than the other elementals
split mortar
guess silva and anahita are exceptions?
the other elementals seem to be made of ...
Brimm phase 1 will probably be changed to not be made of fire completely
split mortar
maybe anahita is also more sapient than the other elementals
Maybe
untold oracle
show?
Getting back to the surface, Léa wasn’t able to see properly due to nighttime having set in already, but she saw a flicker of candles in the horizon along with a dim shape of a castle-like structure. Sick of the horrible conditions of the corruption, she made a run for it, the purple grass gradually turning greener and greener. Finally out of the disease-ridden land, she walked to the castle, where there sat an old man in ragged clothes and messy white hair. Upon noticing her, he was startled initially, but he quickly recomposed himself and smiled at her. After asking him why he was sitting there, he told her that he had been cursed a long time ago by a cult, and it would need a strong warrior to defeat his curse and set him free. The man also saw the large wound she had on her side, and offered her a roll of bandage. The bandage he gave was very old and likely not that clean, but she appreciated the gesture anyways. As she was wrapping the bandage around her wound, she asked what the place they were in was. She was told that it’s a dungeon where Yharim threw his prisoners he acquired from the crusade in, and that his curse didn’t permit anyone from entering it to protect outsiders from a wrathful amalgam inside. He told her about some of the more tragic cases, where his curse had to kill some of the bolder explorers that didn’t listen to his warnings. It was done to prevent the souls from merging into the amalgam, making it stronger. She thought how boring and agonizing the man’s life must have been, shackled to a forgotten and deteriorating building, forced to keep strangers away. Willing to help him, she promised him that she would free him when she got strong enough. The man chuckled and thanked her once more before she got up and started walking towards a familiar-looking desert in the distance.
Haven’t really read this part so typos etc might exist
split mortar
Though it could be outdated
untold oracle
Voila have a text wall
split mortar
Rude
hushed geyser
No
trim edge
Though it could be outdated
nah it's for new lo- wait what do you mean it's been over 1.5 years after the lore update
split mortar
I mean that internal plans for the characters could be different
spring helm
> Getting back to the surface, Léa wasn’t able to see properly due to nighttime ...
I really hope you paragraphed this in your document
indigo glade
there is also the morality tier list by cei which shows brimmy as lacking morali...
Can you show the tier list?
untold oracle
I really hope you paragraphed this in your document
Yes
indigo glade
I thought that the "Lacking Morality" tier also had another thing, but i forgot what it was.
split mortar
Can you show the tier list?
I had seen it but it is atleast a few months old
split mortar
> Getting back to the surface, Léa wasn’t able to see properly due to nighttime ...
It seems good I don’t notice anything strange or off with it
untold oracle
https://www.reddit.com/r/CalamityMod/s/fC3IlgOlxH
Folly is self-defence too I think
split mortar
Oh moonlord put in the “worse then pure evil” tier or whatever the bottom one it
indigo glade
Oh moonlord put in the “worse then pure evil” tier or whatever the bottom one it
"Somehow worse than a mindless entity meant only to kill"
split mortar
In like it protects its home
Not even that, it’s mind controlled by the infection
mighty zenith
still think its interesting that anahita is evil but brimmy doesnt have free will
or morality
spring helm
> Getting back to the surface, Léa wasn’t able to see properly due to nighttime ...
It lacks variety I feel
trim edge
still think its interesting that anahita is evil but brimmy doesnt have free wil...
or maybe she's an ai like draedon 
untold oracle
still think its interesting that anahita is evil but brimmy doesnt have free wil...
Azafure was just a reflex
spring helm
Reads very same for such a long piece of text
split mortar
Maybe there is some difference between elementals that we are unaware of
pliant ruin
https://www.reddit.com/r/CalamityMod/s/fC3IlgOlxH
reddit sucks and i cant see it
can someone post
the image itself here
split mortar
Like intelligence differs between elementals and silva is the smartest
spring helm
split mortar
pliant ruin
whats desert scourge doing there
it's just a wild animal 😭
it should b alongside king slime and crab and etc
pliant ruin
oh it's made by cei?
split mortar
Yeah cei made it
untold oracle
No way that’s made by cei
spring helm
Literally click on the link
Cei posted it
mighty zenith
maybe skurj is just a prick
hoary berry
> Getting back to the surface, Léa wasn’t able to see properly due to nighttime ...
what sticks out to me is
-- using proper dialogue, whilst obviously not necessary, would potentially help make the old man feel more alive—presently he feels like he's just... there, though that could just be me
-- as popcorn said, paragraphing is very important, splitting it up nicely can help a bunch to make it more digestible
-- i think the dungeon itself, and perhaps the atmosphere (as in, the mood, not so much the air itself though you could definitely comment on something like screams echoing or the smell of rot) could do with more description; you've said that the dungeon is there, and the old man has revealed its purpose, but it feels like you immediately jumped away from the focus on the dungeon itself, when i personally feel like it would be taking up a lot more of Léa's attention, especially once the old man reveals its purpose. she's standing before a giant structure, whose walls are painted with misery and halls are filled with unending pain, yet she kind of just brushes it off and puts the whole thing in the corner of her mind
i'm not super focused rn so if this message is a garbled mess mb
pliant ruin
so i assume desert scoog might also be outdated yeah
like the only changes i think i'd make would be
untold oracle
what sticks out to me is
-- using proper dialogue, whilst obviously not *necessa...
Nope I get it
Yeah I got quite a lot to rewrite lol
hoary berry
i think the way you've written it is a pretty good way to approach a first draft
you're getting all of the main content in there and hinting at what might come next
then you can revise it as you improve with writing to flesh it out more and more until you're satisfied
spare pier
it's just a wild animal 😭
Bitch why do you think it's on "self defense"? 
pliant ruin
evil scoog arc
hoary berry
plotting world domination
hushed geyser
For a giant brain botc is treated like a brainless creature
stark basalt
split mortar
hoary berry
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
i should make an emoji for my other cats
pliant ruin
ok here's mine based on what we know
languid badge
why is old duke in evil
indigo glade
They starve their children.
languid badge
w?
indigo glade
new old duke lore
It would be more fitting if you said expanded instead of new.
pliant ruin
i mean kinda but not entirely
indigo glade
Saying new sounds like it is replacing, not adding onto.
pliant ruin
it is sort of replacing tbh
indigo glade
There was nothing to replace in the first place.
pliant ruin
like current old duke was supposed to be just a random ass animal
new old duke is a whole ass guy
ok returning to the gay lawyer game now goodbye
hoary berry
bye bye
indigo glade
ok returning to the gay lawyer game now goodbye
Ace Attorney?
pliant ruin
yep
spring helm
ok here's mine based on what we know
Okay cheese, I know she was manipulated to doing what she did, but she’s still not a good person
Yet
i am going to go play hk now
latent bolt
They starve their children.
someone found the malnourished pigron and fishrons in its rework
unreal belfry
shark dragon hybrid
honestly what were the relogic devs on when they made all of thos dragon hybrids
the sharkrons and pigrons and fishrons....
pliant ruin
Okay cheese, I know she was manipulated to doing what she did, but she’s still n...
fair enough but i also definitely don't think she's a bad person
she might not be actively going out of her way to do good yet but i think her morals themselves are good
she's just not very proactive
split mortar
she's just not very proactive
Not really a surprise when her manipulator likely has a global reach of influence from her perspective
pliant ruin
yea
she's probably too afraid to do much tbh
sometimes you just gotta stay inside the cave
and not leave
truly
split mortar
I imagine she prob thinks she doesn’t stand a chance against yharim, thanks to manipulation and auric rejection nuking anyone who even touched him prob made that a stronger beleif in her mind
dusk laurel
ok here's mine based on what we know
peak.
spring helm
CALAMITAS CAVE EPISODE
dusk laurel
cavewoman
dusk laurel
-# somebody?
split mortar
-# make it yourself, be the change you want in the world
gritty dawn
ok here's mine based on what we know
yharon isnt evil cmon, give it the chicken nugget rank now
and put yharon in that rank
gritty dawn
i have a really old image for this uh
split mortar
Wha
dusk laurel
yharon's fried chicken
gritty dawn
calamity is so calamitous
spring helm
-# make it yourself, be the change you want in the world
OH WAIT I ALREADY DID
split mortar
mighty zenith
rotund shore
high lynx
bro is about to absorb devil fruit powers
frozen zodiac
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vPgmKaf-bGiVhL8EindOvdeKz2QL0k17Z2eQNFRwZSY/...
oh my god i love this i hadn't given that much thought to what calamitas was doing during our time in the land slaying the gods and the ending is so heartwarming, she's so confused by the being she thought would bring the downfall of everything left showing a genuine act of kindness 
spring helm
Thanks
devout grotto
frank dune
btw
i heard cyborg npc is a draedons robot
i am sure i saw cyborg saying smth like that
devout grotto
Ok but this goes to you @spring helm (even tho I haven't read the last one you sent and I only read the One Piece thing ajshhdgd)
mighty zenith
he's not a draedon robot
frank dune
ye ye mb
mighty zenith
just the person who built him wanting to be better than draedon
spring helm
Ok but this goes to you <@312466575275851796> (even tho I haven't read the last ...
This is quite the award
spring helm
So can he shoot lasers from his eyes?
devout grotto
This is quite the award
🩵
mighty zenith
So can he shoot lasers from his eyes?
he actually doesnt, he shoots rockets
which is lame tbh
spring helm
spring helm
he actually doesnt, he shoots rockets
His creator failed him
green bay
Respectfully, that is no car, thats a truck
spring helm
I’m not a car person so I wouldn’t know
green bay
😔
indigo glade
Why does your loaf of bread have burn marks on the top?
spring helm
Not mine, it just approached me as I was walking home
Ask the baker
untold oracle
Damn, I added dialogue and more description and man it got better
dry igloo
Just reading through the public google doc on Calamity's lore I am enthralled, I can easily see why this is one of if not the most beloved content mod on Terraria.
It feels sort of like it's own game, an alternate universe of what Terraria might of become.
dusk laurel
-# Splendid.
dry igloo
I also may have spent an unreasonable amount of time throwing the lore I knew along with lore entrees from the Google Doc into Obsidian.
And it's fascinating to see all the connections.
dry igloo
mighty zenith
we're also all very hyperfixated on the lore
cloud ibex
you'll like this place when people aren't rambling about the xeroc tax or whatever the hell
dusk laurel
you'll like this place when people aren't rambling about the xeroc tax or whatev...
look, that's past us now.
viral juniper
you'll like this place when people aren't rambling about the xeroc tax or whatev...
So
When Omni doesn't show up basically
mighty zenith
true
cloud ibex
no omni rambles about monster hunter
dusk laurel
omnirotting
cloud ibex
which isn't much better but still
mighty zenith
omni's brain has been rotting recently
potent moth
funny red witch melt ocean yeey
dusk laurel
she evaporated the upper layers
potent moth
must be heavy rainfall then
cuz water vapour go to clouds
probably the reason for toxic downpours
pliant ruin
i think the toxic downpours just happen because... well
frank dune
but just too shy to say that
pliant ruin
you're in the sulphuric sea.... yknow
dusk laurel
yharim likes player
frank dune
you're in the sulphuric sea.... yknow
dusk laurel
depends on what your character does
mighty zenith
probably the reason for toxic downpours
no that was draedon doing some funny environmental terrorism
(dumping nuclear waste into an already sulphurous ocean)
potent moth
no that was draedon doing some funny environmental terrorism
Draedon is just an alien onceler
cloud ibex
i do think it's funny how he goes "yeah i could fix it"
mighty zenith
draedon does it cause he doesnt give a shit
cloud ibex
"i don't want to but i could"
mighty zenith
and cause he wants to see what happens
pliant ruin
Draedon mostly just does things because he, in the most literal way possible
Wants to fuck around and find out
potent moth
not an alien and also
not really?
If hes not an alien what is he hes built like a big grasshopper
pliant ruin
His entire drive is knowledge
mighty zenith
hes a robor
pliant ruin
If hes not an alien what is he hes built like a big grasshopper
He's an AI
:p
The "body" you see ingame isn't biological
mighty zenith
robors can look silly
potent moth
He's an AI
who made draedon then
pliant ruin
It's just a drone
dusk laurel
who made draedon then
unknown
frank dune
draedon likes yharim lmao
mighty zenith
who made draedon then
we dont know who they were
pliant ruin
who made draedon then
Some dead guy who may or may not be himself
cloud ibex
hes a robor
he's also a gamer
mighty zenith
we just know they were dead when draedon woke up
cloud ibex
which explains the shrimping
potent moth
Some dead guy who may or may not be himself
lorde made draedon
dusk laurel
draedon likes yharim lmao
other way around
frank dune
draedon likes yharim lmao
thats why he doesnt assist ya in attacking tyrant
pliant ruin
This chat is really cool when it's actual conversations and not just brainrot...
cloud ibex
other way around
no not the other way around
mighty zenith
This chat is really cool when it's actual conversations and not just brainrot...
very true
cloud ibex
yharim doesn't like draedon
mighty zenith
god i cant wait to talk about new stuff when sso drops
pliant ruin
Yharim dosen't like draedon
Draedon is completely and utterly indifferent to Yharim, much like how he is to literally anyone else
spring helm
This chat is really cool when it's actual conversations and not just brainrot...
I’m yhimming my shit rn I gotta yhoke up for the Yharim fight
viral juniper
What if Yharim IS Draedon............
mighty zenith
What if Yharim IS Draedon............
you're mom is draedon
viral juniper
cloud ibex
after the pbg incident, the only reason he even talked to draedon again is because he got jumped and he wanted better armor
dry igloo
Dreadon messed with the bees, so he got put in Yharim's book of grudges, right next to the traitor almighty.
pliant ruin
I think at this point Yharim might not truly hate Draedon anymore
But he also dosen't like him in the slightest
It's probably a like
potent moth
Draedon being an ai explains a lot because i never really understood how he was still alive after i wand of sparkingd his ass when i beat the exo mechs
pliant ruin
"Yeah ok do your thing but don't get anywhere near me"
mighty zenith
I think he's too petty
dry igloo
Draedon being an ai explains a lot because i never really understood how he was ...
He has more then one body
pliant ruin
Fair point
mighty zenith
he tells himself he hates draedon and that he's a monster
dusk laurel
Draedon being an ai explains a lot because i never really understood how he was ...
that's a recon drone
cloud ibex
Draedon being an ai explains a lot because i never really understood how he was ...
he's also, like, 600 years old
dusk laurel
not his actual body
mighty zenith
despite not actually really hating him
dry igloo
I vaugely recall some lore detail about his chair being in better condition then his recon bodies, showing he cares more about his RGB flying gamer chair then his recon bodies.
pliant ruin
I do still think he dislikes him, i just think he's less vehement in his dislike of him
But
Honestly
Yeah, he is incredibly petty, so maybe not
potent moth
I vaugely recall some lore detail about his chair being in better condition then...
Well duh
dry igloo
Oh yea, I have a question
potent moth
forgive me
dusk laurel
fine
potent moth
yey
Wait so is yharon like one of the dragons that like ruled everywhere ages ago
or is he something else
pliant ruin
ye
potent moth
Then something i dont get
frank dune
You know
dry igloo
Someone named Dodged Music released an fan theme for Yharim today, it's surprisingly high quality for a channel with about 300 subs.
But what caught my eye is how they incorporated the lore into the lyrics, talking about the serpent with his silver tongue, singing a response to Yharon's theme, and eventually the traitor almighty, Xeroc.
Where would I post a link to this music?
potent moth
is when you kill scal or exo mechs
frank dune
Killing dragons is dumb
spring helm
Yharon reincarnates whenever he dies
potent moth
You get the cynosure lore
potent moth
Which says “this is the power the dragons had”
dusk laurel
Killing dragons is dumb
not always
frank dune
What i mean is that you can put dragonfolly into generator for infinite energy
dusk laurel
flame dragon:
dry igloo
You get the cynosure lore
Cynosure:
"You now stand at the brink of infinity. The power you have amassed is extraordinary.
Valor and deceit, truth and falsehood, loyalty and betrayal… you are beyond these notions.
You have rent all asunder as they crossed your path. The very land now bends to your will.
Do you not see how the grass parts where you step, how the stars illuminate where you gaze?
Terraria itself kneels to you, whether it be out of fear or respect.
This is the strength the Dragons held. The primordial power they commanded.
Little stands between us now. If you did not seek battle with me, I doubt you would have come so far.
When you are prepared: seek the grave of the Light, at the summit of the [[Dragon Aerie]].
I await your challenge."
Here you are.
spring helm
Which says “this is the power the dragons had”
Yharim’s comparing your level of power to that of the auric dragons
pliant islandBOT
potent moth
Ohhh
potent moth
I thought like
mighty zenith
Cynosure:
"You now stand at the brink of infinity. The power you have amassed i...
its hyperbole btw
he's hyping you (and the dragons) up
potent moth
The dragons were as strong as we were
pliant ruin
not all of them tbh
dusk laurel
most dragons were weaker
pliant ruin
...probably not most of them
dry igloo
its hyperbole btw
Ah, thank you for the clarification.
potent moth
i didnt know he was just comparing tbh
mighty zenith
their strength varied yeah
dusk laurel
yharon is one of the strongest ones
pliant ruin
...Actually literally just zeratros to be honest
mighty zenith
i doubt the fatass dragon of gluttony was as strong as, say, the dragon of death
pliant ruin
like at that point it's literally just zeratros that could match you in strenght
mighty zenith
especially if you compare Slime God's strength to Ravager's
pliant ruin
Yharim is not beating the dragon bias allegations
split mortar
Loring are we
potent moth
especially if you compare Slime God's strength to Ravager's
Will we ever actually kill the slime gods because they’re smart enough to flee from fights they know they cant win
mighty zenith
yes
dusk laurel
yes.
mighty zenith
we kill them with queen slime
dusk laurel
queen slime:
split mortar
We kill them in queen slime fight
pliant ruin
We killed them already yeah
frank dune
Goozma
potent moth
oh
indigo glade
I think Yharim is not biased at all.
mighty zenith
Queen slime is the (very anticlimatic) end to slime god
rework my girl, make her cool
first trans calamity character deserves a better fight......................
split mortar
I think Yharim is not biased at all.
This guy fell to the yhapaganda
indigo glade
Obviously all the Auric Dragons were at Post Exo Mechs and Calamitas strength.
dusk laurel
potent moth
Obviously all the Auric Dragons were at Post Exo Mechs and Calamitas strength.
Then why could we beat one of the strongest before
dusk laurel
Then why could we beat one of the strongest before
sarcasm
pliant ruin
i like the idea queen slime isn't even a girl and the terrarian just looked at pink slime with a crown and went "Ok the blue one with a crown was king slime"
"this one is queen slime"
indigo glade
This guy fell to the yhapaganda
No propaganda, just his biggest fangirl.
pliant ruin
and slime god is just like
frank dune
How would sg taste lik
pliant ruin
"i'm gonna die to a fucking moron"
dusk laurel
How would sg taste lik<:nothoughtsheadempty:1231288241727213700>
why
why is everything food to you
cloud ibex
i like the idea queen slime isn't even a girl and the terrarian just looked at p...
lines up with the rest of their naming schemes
mighty zenith
i like the idea queen slime isn't even a girl and the terrarian just looked at p...
ok
but
trans slime god
is funnier
split mortar
How would sg taste lik<:nothoughtsheadempty:1231288241727213700>
Can you stop with the vore
pliant ruin
trans slime god isn't funny and is actually kind of annoying to me tbh
split mortar
trans slime god
Slime goddess*
pliant ruin
atleast atp
mighty zenith
:(
hoary berry
Oh my fucking god discord mobile sucks
potent moth
Is the terminus canon
dusk laurel
yes.
pliant ruin
yes
split mortar
Yes
cloud ibex
do we even really know anything about them
frank dune
Can you stop with the vore
cloud ibex
other than like
dry igloo
I find it funny that in vanilla canon, the player is just someone that showed up one day and started murdering powerful beings on mass, and people are just showing up to watch.
cloud ibex
statis worshipped them and they merked the dragon of gluttony
pliant ruin
they were worshipped by onyx kinsmen and their job is keeping the balance
and thats kinda it honestly
we don't know anything abt
who they were, what their actual personality or motivations are, their morals
like
straight up they're just THere
potent moth
If the terminus is canon then like has anyone beat the boss rush in lore
split mortar
Is the terminus canon
It’s a artifact likely used in perfect ascension
pliant ruin
If the terminus is canon then like has anyone beat the boss rush in lore
No because you're the first person to do it
It's a challenge xeroc made specifically for you
split mortar
If the terminus is canon then like has anyone beat the boss rush in lore
Boss rush may be a recent thing, if not specific to us
frank dune
It’s a artifact likely used in perfect ascension
Xeroc was pissed and locked it at abyss
potent moth
It's a challenge xeroc made *specifically* for you
Then why do other people know abt it
pliant ruin
They don't?
dusk laurel
Xeroc was pissed and locked it at abyss
🫤 _ _
split mortar
Xeroc was pissed and locked it at abyss
Then Jared deemed it his
split mortar
Then why do other people know abt it
Where?
cloud ibex
i still like my "slime god used to be basically a corrupt noble who was forced into a change of heart when they ascended" theory because it's kinda funny
frank dune
Boss rush happens cuz someone taking it and attracts xerocs attention
potent moth
They don't?
I swear when you first use it it says few people know of its existence
split mortar
(Cirrus is weird in terms of canonicity)
frank dune
Boss rush happens cuz someone taking it and attracts xerocs attention
So he tests ya
potent moth
Ohh
dusk laurel
Then why do other people know abt it
terminus is something xeroc used
pliant ruin
Boss rush isn't directly related to the terminus
potent moth
so do we know what would happen if someone used it before us
dusk laurel
so do we know what would happen if someone used it before us
maybe perfect ascension
pliant ruin
They used it during their ascencion ritual
split mortar
i assumed she was just
Fabsol threatened to put whoever made cirrus not canon in a choke hold
pliant ruin
and had a perfect ascencion
pliant ruin
Fabsol threatened to put whoever made cirrus not canon in a choke hold
That wasn't serious
dusk laurel
^
pliant ruin
Cirrus is still not canon
potent moth
ohhhhhh
pliant ruin
Fab dosen't rly do anything lorewise, he said so himself
spring helm
Yharim hyping the power of the auric dragons:
the auric dragons being as strong as the eidolon wyrms:
potent moth
Does the primordial wyrm have like anything to do with the lore is it just old and thats about it
split mortar
Zeratros being relatively equal to yharim
dusk laurel
Does the primordial wyrm have like anything to do with the lore is it just old a...
silva and being blessed by her
split mortar
Does the primordial wyrm have like anything to do with the lore is it just old a...
It’s blessed by silva and hates usurped primordial light
dusk laurel
draconic offshoot
pliant ruin
Primordial wyrm is a really old eidolon wyrm, probably the oldest, that got blessed by Silva
indigo glade
No propaganda, just his biggest fangirl.
potent moth
silva and being blessed by her
oh
dry igloo
Yharim hyping the power of the auric dragons:
the auric dragons being as strong...
I think it's the other way around, the Eidolon wyrms being almost as strong as the auric dragons, being an offshoot of them.
dusk laurel
she's immortal
pliant ruin
yes
frank dune
From moss
split mortar
I think it's the other way around, the Eidolon wyrms being almost as strong as t...
Either way dragons aren’t as strong as people think
frank dune
Ye
split mortar
Can silva rebirth
She can’t even really die
dusk laurel
you have to kill all life to kill her
split mortar
you have to kill all life to kill her
Which may include other elementals
potent moth
you have to kill all life to kill her
We basically do that anyway
dry igloo
Oh, do y'all want to see some concept art for Yharim? I'm not sure if it's official, but it sure is cool looking.
dusk laurel
We basically do that anyway
no?
sudden ruin
hows the lore goin
split mortar
We basically do that anyway
As in, a single bacteria cell lets her live
dusk laurel
yharim will always have a higher kill count
potent moth
As in, a single bacteria cell lets her live
Oh
dry igloo
hows the lore goin
Not sure, I'm new here but I'm having a blast.
potent moth
so for her to die everything must die
split mortar
Yharim has hundreds of millions of people dead due to him
split mortar
so for her to die everything must die
Yes
pliant ruin
The idea that the terrarian is some evil mass mruderer that kills everyone has always been weird for me
We just Kill Enemies and Bosses
like
the same way it works in every game ever
potent moth
like even stuff thats sort of alive like plants
split mortar
Yes
indigo glade
Oh, do y'all want to see some concept art for Yharim? I'm not sure if it's offic...
You can see the concept art for Yharim in one of the pinned messages in this channel.
pliant ruin
like by that same logic
frank dune
The idea that the terrarian is some evil mass mruderer that kills everyone has a...
Tbh they start
Its self defense
dusk laurel
no?
split mortar
Probably even other elementals, and brimm needs all heat gone for her to die
pliant ruin
Mario from Mario Brother is a evil genocidal maniac that caused the extinction of all life in the planet because he stomped some goombas
mighty zenith
most of them start
dusk laurel
melon, show them the image
mighty zenith
some of them are just
unnecessary
viral juniper
Mario from Mario Brother is a evil genocidal maniac that caused the extinction o...
Stomping
Koopas
(Pretty sure this joke is no longer funny)
split mortar
mighty zenith
Mario from Mario Brother is a evil genocidal maniac that caused the extinction o...
something something mario is a sociopath (he playfully stepped on his brother's shoe that one time)
indigo glade
Mario the Man versus Mario the Idea.
potent moth
How messed up would the lore be if anahita fought with a primordial wyrm
mighty zenith
something something mario is a sociopath (he playfully stepped on his brother's ...
god that theory was ass
frank dune
Tbh
frank dune
If silvas remains are i abyss
split mortar
How messed up would the lore be if anahita fought with a primordial wyrm
Not much, anahita is much weaker
pliant ruin
die as much as elemental can die anyways
split mortar
Like wyrm is above scal and anahita is below golem
cloud ibex
god that theory was ass
GT science theories >>> GT story theories tbh
mighty zenith
ok true
frank dune
Does it mean yharim brutally slaughtered her and her insides out and all that moss is her remains and gors?
potent moth
Like wyrm is above scal and anahita is below golem
Ik but i was just wondering
dusk laurel
Does it mean yharim brutally slaughtered her and her insides out and all that mo...
moss is her influence
dry igloo
You can see the concept art for Yharim in one of the pinned messages in this cha...
Ah, thank you kindly.
Though I will admit, I feel like some of these designs could work just as well, even if they're more of a fantasy theme.
split mortar
Does it mean yharim brutally slaughtered her and her insides out and all that mo...
Yeah, the plant moss is also her growing her influence
potent moth
Im guessing because primordial wyrm is a superboss and is mainly for the challenge and not the rewards the drops arent canon because its mainly just void loot and halibut cannon
frank dune
Ah, thank you kindly.
Though I will admit, I feel like some of these designs co...
YHARIM PRIME
Ultrakill
dusk laurel
☹️
cloud ibex
☹️
dry igloo
YHARIM PRIME
V1 doesn't stand a chance.
potent moth
V1 doesn't stand a chance.
Can yharim railcoin
mighty zenith
Ah, thank you kindly.
Though I will admit, I feel like some of these designs co...
i can smell the warhammer influence
and i know nothing about warhammer
cloud ibex
Ah, thank you kindly.
Though I will admit, I feel like some of these designs co...
i think they're formerly semi official? not entirely sure
split mortar
Can yharim railcoin
Yharim can punch the coin
potent moth
Yharim can punch the coin
V1s dead before the fight starts
Yharims presence instantly kills him
pliant ruin
The official yharim design is in pins
viral juniper
Ah, thank you kindly.
Though I will admit, I feel like some of these designs co...
Big Mac goes hard
dry igloo
Oh, there were two more, and these are colored.
pliant ruin
Most official character designs are
dusk laurel
Oh, there were two more, and these are colored.
this isn't official
dry igloo
this isn't official
That's good to know.
split mortar
pliant ruin
dusk laurel
Rovio logo on his head
are you here for lore?
pliant ruin
official character designs
potent moth
guys does anyone know who the monk from the rock lore actually is
dusk laurel
i feel like you're just here for the trolls
dusk laurel
guys does anyone know who the monk from the rock lore actually is
xeroc
split mortar
guys does anyone know who the monk from the rock lore actually is
Xeroc
pliant ruin
guys does anyone know who the monk from the rock lore actually is
Xeroc
frank dune
https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/568192082473386020/1232112665896...
Sebastian
dusk laurel
☹️
potent moth
WHY ARE YOU ALL SO FAST ITS SCARY
split mortar
We lore like
frank dune
Ok ok sorry
mighty zenith
we're all very brainrotten
dry igloo
I think this was the first design of Yharim I saw, but it wasn't official I don't think. I love how they incorporated his stimulants into the design.
frank dune
I think this was the first design of Yharim I saw, but it wasn't official I don'...
Wtf with his legs
potent moth
I know this might be like a big question but who actually IS xeroc
frank dune
And arms
split mortar
I think the yharim in this gif is from official art
pliant ruin
I think this was the first design of Yharim I saw, but it wasn't official I don'...
It was official at some point but is greatly outdated now
potent moth
Cuz hes mentioned everywhere but idk who he actually is
cloud ibex
yea it's just old
mighty zenith
I think this was the first design of Yharim I saw, but it wasn't official I don'...
bird feet
dusk laurel
I know this might be like a big question but who actually IS xeroc
first god, dragon monk, god of primordial light and possible protector of the world
pliant ruin
I know this might be like a big question but who actually IS xeroc
A human who consumed the auric soul of the strongest dragon, Zeratros, while he was in a almost-dying state and ascended, becoming the very first god, with domain of primordial light
potent moth
first god, dragon monk, god of primordial light and possible protector of the wo...
oh wow
frank dune
Dragon monk-ey
pliant ruin
Unintentionally kickstarted the hunt for auric souls
split mortar
And maybe (MAYBE) hunting noxus in distortion so it doesn’t threaten terraria
pliant ruin
since people saw him ascend and were like
dusk laurel
Dragon monk-ey
☹️
pliant ruin
"ay i wanna do that too"
potent moth
so xeroc is basically the big guy in charge of like everything
dry igloo
I think the yharim in this gif is from official art
I won't deny it looks cool, though I think I prefer the more fantasy-esc look of the concepts, no shade to the person who made it though, it looks cool.
pliant ruin
so xeroc is basically the big guy in charge of like everything
No not really
He's not quite in charge of anything or anyone
dusk laurel
xeroc dipped
potent moth
are we ever gonna fight xeroc or is the final boss still reserved for yharim
pliant ruin
They're just sort of doing their own thing
Yharim is gonna be the final bos still yes
mighty zenith
are we ever gonna fight xeroc or is the final boss still reserved for yharim
potentially yes
pliant ruin
Xeroc
split mortar
so xeroc is basically the big guy in charge of like everything
He could be if he wanted
But he has kinda just left the planet to its own stuff
pliant ruin
might
mighty zenith
yharim is the final boss of the main plot
pliant ruin
come as a post-yharim superboss
mighty zenith
xeroc would be additional content
dusk laurel
are we ever gonna fight xeroc or is the final boss still reserved for yharim
maybe, it will just be more like a challenge than a fight
dry igloo
Yharim has what I consider to be the coolest example of "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain".
split mortar
are we ever gonna fight xeroc or is the final boss still reserved for yharim
Final boss is yharim, we may fight noxus and xeroc later but they will be optional and super bosses
pliant ruin
Yharim has what I consider to be the coolest example of "You either die a hero, ...
Well
dusk laurel
Yharim has what I consider to be the coolest example of "You either die a hero, ...
hero?
split mortar
Yharim has what I consider to be the coolest example of "You either die a hero, ...
Hero?
pliant ruin
Not exactly
mighty zenith
Yharim has what I consider to be the coolest example of "You either die a hero, ...
except he was never a hero
potent moth
maybe, it will just be more like a challenge than a fight
Like primordial wyrm in that its hard, optional and has minimal rewards
frank dune
yharim is the final boss of the main plot
Imagine going to aerie and then finding yharim died of old age
split mortar
He went to genocide immediately
pliant ruin
Wait let me explain rq
dusk laurel
Imagine going to aerie and then finding yharim died of old age
old joke
someone made before you
frank dune
I made it
split mortar
I think they made it idk
frank dune
He
mighty zenith
i made iy
dusk laurel
really?
mighty zenith
me
mighty zenith
n o one else
cloud ibex
you either gaslight people into thinking you're a hero or live long enough to only leave behind those who remember you as a villain
mighty zenith
you either die a villain or live long enough a villain
dry igloo
I must have outdated lore, because I thought he started turning for the worst when he recruited the Devourer of Gods into his army, the serpent manipulating him into doing worse and worse.
I recall Dreadon's first contact with him being while he was down on the ground helping with reconstruction efforts of a small kingdom he took over.
cloud ibex
he says DoG's recruitment is when he started going downhill
pliant ruin
Yharim, despite what he tells you, was never really a hero to begin with - He had seen gods as inherently evil and wished to eradicate them from the start. In his eyes, his flaw was never within the mass genocide he committed, it was most definitely with how throughout the years of the crusade, he started having to resort to tactics, that, in his eyes, were probably not ideal.
Yharim thinks that he was a hero who fell, and thinks his genocide was a "heroic mission", vanquishing evil. When in reality, he was a terrilbe person from the start. He sees flaws in himself, but not his true flaws
high lynx
yes but he was always the worst
spring helm
Well he thought he was “you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain”
But if you asked those he genocide they’d say he was always a villain
cloud ibex
he could just be lying though
potent moth
guys do we know whos mass producing wulfrum robots
pliant ruin
I must have outdated lore, because I thought he started turning for the worst wh...
Do note how
high lynx
i mean he was always a mass murdered
split mortar
John wulfrum (we don’t know)
pliant ruin
now think to yourself
high lynx
he just realized he was a mass murderer a little later than most people would
frank dune
Yharim, despite what he *tells you*, was never really a hero to begin with - He ...
Literally me then i feel sillier then usual
pliant ruin
how would someone who's literally known to be terrible at lying possibly manipulate Yharim, who's a expert tactician and manipulator?
potent moth
John wulfrum (we don’t know)
its such an insignificant little thing but i must have it answered
dry igloo
how would someone who's literally known to be *terrible at lying* possibly manip...
Oh... That's a good point.
pliant ruin
That's the thing, the devourer most definitely didn't manipulate Yharim to begin with
spring helm
John Wulfrum
pliant ruin
Yharim is simply shifting the blame onto him, whether as a tactic to manipulate us, or as to alleviate his own subconscious guilt, probably both
frank dune
That's the thing, the devourer most definitely didn't manipulate Yharim to begin...
Big ass worm manipulated tyrant
pliant ruin
Do remember his goal was to kill all gods from the start
frank dune
Lmao
mighty zenith
It's easier to blame the giant asswipe alien
split mortar
That's the thing, the devourer most definitely didn't manipulate Yharim to begin...
Like dog at best made him worse a bit quicker
Imo he would have caused a polter anyways
mighty zenith
so thats what he does
frank dune
Like dog at best made him worse a bit quicker
Imo he would have caused a polter...
No way
pliant ruin
It never was "I'll kill the evil gods" and then throughout the years he went "I'll kill all gods"
dusk laurel
it was too convenient for yharim
frank dune
He is feeding on gody essence
dusk laurel
DoG was literally right there
potent moth
Do remember his goal was to kill *all* gods from the start
Arent we technically a god because we killed the exo mechs which have killed gods
frank dune
Not on humans
mighty zenith
he started with evil gods to build his reputation
dusk laurel
He is feeding on gody essence
he never consumes it
mighty zenith
Arent we technically a god because we killed the exo mechs which have killed god...
not how it works
pliant ruin
Arent we technically a god because we killed the exo mechs which have killed god...
No that's not how it works
dusk laurel
it gets transported away
dry igloo
Do remember his goal was to kill *all* gods from the start
I'd likely feel similar if I watched someone betray the protectors of Terraria, claiming their Auric souls, become Gods, then want to use me to rule as a God king.
high lynx
have the exo mechs killed gods?
mighty zenith
technically, you can beat gods after the wall of flesh
potent moth
No that's not how it works
shame, being a god would be cool
mighty zenith
since you kill slime god right after
high lynx
draedon has no reason to kill gods
frank dune
it gets transported away
So brk shits into other dimension
dusk laurel
I'd likely feel similar if I watched someone betray the protectors of Terraria, ...
yharim propaganda strikes again
potent moth
have the exo mechs killed gods?
I mean draedon says theyve rivaled gods
spring helm
DoG: “Yharim you should let the prisoners in the dungeon die and form a giant ghost.”
Yharim, who was going to do that anyway: “Foul serpent, how dare you force my hand. My actions henceforth are not my own but.”
high lynx
yeah but so does scal
frank dune
draedon has no reason to kill gods
Id kill gods cuz i wanna their power
pliant ruin
I'd likely feel similar if I watched someone betray the protectors of Terraria, ...
Well, that's the thing:
-Yharim never saw Xeroc "betray" zeratros
-The gods that wanted yharim to be god-king weren't representative of all gods. They were simply some gods
The thing is
Gods are almost entirely independent from eachother
high lynx
i dont think you can absorb god power
mighty zenith
the issue is that yharim treats dragons as completely innocent and pure beings and gods as irredeemable monsters
its a completely black and white worldview
pliant ruin
Some are, indeed, evil, and deserve to be killed, yes
high lynx
too unstable
potent moth
(Providence, per example)
What did providence actually do
frank dune
i dont think you can absorb god power
Technology of lrc
high lynx
ravager was a god right?
mighty zenith
correct
dusk laurel
otonilou, tyrian and others
potent moth
ravager was a god right?
Its like a failed ritual isnt it
pliant ruin
yharim did not care, he deemed all of them was evil on the single thread that they absorbed an auric soul
pliant ruin
You could literally be a saint, someone who saved millions, who was kind to everyone, and yharim would still kill you
dry igloo
Wouldn't you still have to murder a Auric Dragon to become a God, and said dragons were the protectors of Terraria.
spring helm
Me when I paint my enemies as ontologically evil (all atrocities are justified and acceptable now, even to those only indirectly related to them):
pliant ruin
Heck, he wouldn't just kill you
mighty zenith
you can argue killing a dragon made them all morally grey
pliant ruin
Wouldn't you still have to murder a Auric Dragon to become a God, and said drago...
Yes, but do note:
- Dragons are not inherently benevolent
- There is still external nuance to that action
mighty zenith
but then what if the dragon was terrorizing people and was a menace?
does that make slaying them a sin?
high lynx
but you dont have to be the one that kills the dragon
potent moth
Wait so if you kill an auric dragon you’re a god
dusk laurel
what if the dragon
dry igloo
Yes, but do note:
- Dragons are not inherently benevolent
- There is still exter...
True, so it's more complicated then that.
dusk laurel
was already dying
high lynx
as seen by the profane meatballs
mighty zenith
Wait so if you kill an auric dragon you’re a god
not just kill
you need to absorb its soul through a ritual
dusk laurel
☹️
sudden ruin
and nobody knows how to do that pretty much
potent moth
you need to absorb its soul through a ritual
we have like an infinite disposal of yharon soul fragments
frank dune
Somewhat unusual id say
mighty zenith
☹️
mighty zenith
we have like an infinite disposal of yharon soul fragments
fragments
pliant ruin
What if the dragon let you kill it, due to being on it's last legs and wishing for someone to inherit its power? Or, for a more morally gray area: What if someone didn't have a choice? What if they had no choice but to obtain the power of godhood to save someone they loved? There's probably more possibilites off i can't think of, but still
Point is
spring helm
mighty zenith
you dont have the full soul
and regardless, you dont know the ritual
high lynx
not attuned and we dont know how or why we cant absorb yharon
pliant ruin
Yharim is, no matter which you way to look at it, a terrible person
mighty zenith
Tbh thats probably ultra painful for yharon
yeah id say dying is painful
pliant ruin
Heck, he wouldn't *just* kill you
But onto this
Yharim did, in fact, kill benevolent gods
frank dune
Tbh thats probably ultra painful for yharon
I mean image part of ur heart is just cut off
pliant ruin
Notably
Otonilou, the goddess of electricity, was one of them
She was said to be more or less a saint
dusk laurel
I mean image part of ur heart is just cut off
that is barely any of his soul
pliant ruin
And how did Yharim respond?
high lynx
i personally think it's not because we dont know the ritual, but that yharon's soul works differently to other dragons
dusk laurel
it's just fragments
spring helm
Jeanne d’Arc if she was a jellyfish lady
high lynx
if we really wanted to become a god we could ask somebody
mighty zenith
who are you gonna ask
pliant ruin
Send the child soldier he manipulated and gaslighted to nuke your entire kingdom, killing not only you but all of your followers and causing a ecological collapse, destroying a entire civilization and likely causing the extinction of hundreds of species
high lynx
xeroc
dusk laurel
who would tell you
high lynx
xeroc
dusk laurel
he is NOT telling you
spring helm
Send the child soldier he manipulated and gaslighted to nuke your entire kingdom...
It’s okay they were evil (according to me)
cloud ibex
xeroc doesn't really have a reason to tell you
mighty zenith
none of them do
dusk laurel
blind user:
high lynx
he only doesnt give you an offer because you arent quite good enough
what better way to push you over the edge than becoming a god
cloud ibex
for all we know they might feel terrible for killing Zeratros, let alone causing the near extinction of all auric dragons
high lynx
he does say yharon was once hs friend
split mortar
Your vore talk about bosses
pliant ruin
for all we know they might feel terrible for killing Zeratros, let alone causing...
I highly doubt xeroc
dosen't
feel regret or guilt
for indirectly causing every remaining dragon to fucking die
high lynx
so maybe nobody would teach you the ritual
pliant ruin
even if unintentionally
split mortar
he does say yharon was once hs friend
They were both around at the same time and both close to zeratros
mighty zenith
just calling yharon an old friend suggests they wouldnt do that
cloud ibex
plus they consider Yharon to be an old friend iunno if they'd want you to permanently kill him
mighty zenith
again, the circumstances of their ascension are way too vague rn
high lynx
the only people i can think of either hate gods or are evil
maybe silva or some other "living" god but idk
frank dune
Tbh i am sure most of gods are good
mighty zenith
highly doubt silva could tell you
anything
pliant ruin
People that can tell you how to ascend:
-Xeroc (why would he do that)
-Yharim (Pfft.)
-Silva (your best choice but we don't know enough about her to say anything but based on the pattern we have... probably not)
dusk laurel
abyss
mighty zenith
provi and slime god - they are literally trying to murder you
dusk laurel
already had life
pliant ruin
and they're dead
split mortar
Abyss already had life, she made it flourish
dusk laurel
before silva was dropped in there
high lynx
silva is just a battery
dusk laurel
silva was a booster rocket
frank dune
Abyss already had life, she made it flourish
Oh well mb
pliant ruin
Abyss life probably consisted of shitty crabs and fish before silva came in
high lynx
a battery that will eventually become a solar powered ecosystem spanning the continent
pliant ruin
Like a mf reaper shark was NOT gonna live in there without silvas influence
dry igloo
So Yharim was someone who justified his actions because people did what he considered an unforgivable sin, absorbing the Auric Soul of the Auric Dragons, the protectors of Terraria who just barely managed to seal a now weakened husk of the Moon Lord into the moon, now finding themselves in a weakened state.
He'd use it to justify taking over other nations who dared support these "deities", burning the places of worship.
He'd manipulate a young girl named Calamitas into fighting for him, despite Permafrost's wishes.
Maybe during this point he thought it was a fair judgment, but as time passed, he came to realize the full weight of his actions, falling into a depression.
Is this right?
split mortar
Go slimelamitas
high lynx
what about eidolon wyrm, when was that thing alive
dusk laurel
blob
pliant ruin
most fearsome pre-silva abyss predator
sudden ruin
is silva conscious
frank dune
Go slimelamitas
Daym
cloud ibex
Abyss life probably consisted of shitty crabs and fish before silva came in
i don't know why but saying "shitty crabs" is funny to me
mighty zenith
most fearsome pre-silva abyss predator
get rotated
idiot
pliant ruin
So Yharim was someone who justified his actions because people did what he consi...
Nope
NOt really
split mortar
So Yharim was someone who justified his actions because people did what he consi...
Pretty sure that’s 100% correct
Idk
pliant ruin
See, yharim is very much depressed, yes
pliant ruin
Pretty sure that’s 100% correct
Very much isn't
high lynx
So Yharim was someone who justified his actions because people did what he consi...
not to mention order calamitas to kill permafrost
pliant ruin
It implies that Yharim regrets the entire
Genocide thing
as i've said
he has regrets, yes
high lynx
not to mention order calamitas to kill permafrost
unless i misread something or that's old lore
pliant ruin
but these regrets don't change the fact he's still deluded himself with the thoughts that he even used to be a hero in the first place, aswell as the fact he not only dosen't regret killing the gods, but actively is still trying to do it
He comments on you killing slime god, encouraging you to do it further. In the evil biome lore items, he shows how his views still are that all gods are sinful beings.
and his entire motivation to fight you
high lynx
falsely divine
pliant ruin
Is because he's aware he cannot possibly beat xeroc, xeroc is miles stronger than him and he's only got a few years left to live
mighty zenith
he also refuses to talk about the hallow
pliant ruin
So he's actively trying to manipulate you into being his sucessor
cloud ibex
yharim regrets that his crusade wasn't as effective as he wanted it to be more than he regrets the consequences of the crusade in the first place
high lynx
i think god is just what we call them in this context
pliant ruin
yharim regrets that his crusade wasn't as effective as he wanted it to be more t...
Yeah exactly this
high lynx
they are not gods
pliant ruin
He seems himself as a hero taht failed his heroic mission
high lynx
they are the falsely divine
split mortar
Yharim is a horrble person with very little redeeming factors
frank dune
I mean yharim is not like ultrabaf
pliant ruin
Not as a terrible person who deluded himself with the idea that he was a hero
high lynx
possibly implying actual higher beings
high lynx
the gods are gods
says who
high lynx
says who
pliant ruin
...The lore writers
frank dune
He asks you to treat scal property prob regretting bis actions towards his idk friends?team?
cloud ibex
the gods are gods (by calamity's hyper specific unique definition of the word)
high lynx
because the first person to become a god was the guy that came up with that crap
mighty zenith
i think its fair to say gods is accurate
pliant ruin
Yes, because that's what a god is in calamity
high lynx
but im saying thats what we know them as
pliant ruin
There is no "god" in calamity as in a all powerful being
high lynx
for lack of another term
mighty zenith
thats what they are in this universe
rotund shore
draedon is a rather objective man
pliant ruin
what they are
split mortar
Gods in calamity are divine, and are actual gods
mighty zenith
a god is what they are referred to here
high lynx
There is no "god" in calamity as in a all powerful being
astrum deus
high lynx
well wait
split mortar
astrum deus
That’s not a god
pliant ruin
it's just a space worm
high lynx
sorry
dry igloo
I'm trying to remember were, but I vaugely recall in a lore entree where Yharim is talking to the player about the things he's done, he begs the player not to become like him.
high lynx
he is a god
split mortar
It’s explicitly called not one iirc
high lynx
as in worshiped
pliant ruin
I'm trying to remember were, but I vaugely recall in a lore entree where Yharim ...
This is more so reffering to how he became a "failed hero"
and in fact
rotund shore
this universe has a different definition of god then ours
pliant ruin
goes further into yharim's motivation
high lynx
not an all powerfull one
pliant ruin
Yharim is trying to make you into his sucessor
mighty zenith
I'm trying to remember were, but I vaugely recall in a lore entree where Yharim ...
he only says that about situations that caused his crusade to slow down
pliant ruin
and he's basically saying
"get this shit done, don't become like me and fail at the last step"
once again
mighty zenith
such as treating Calamitas poorly (aka making her and permafrost leave)
cloud ibex
because the first person to become a god was the guy that came up with that crap
i tend to imagine Xeroc didn't actually declare themselves the first god, that's something yharim made up/yharon made up and told yharim
mighty zenith
such as treating Calamitas poorly (aka making her and permafrost leave)
or not dealing with Polter (causing the Dragon Cult to cut ties with him)
high lynx
wait which absorbed zeratros, noxus or xeroc i get them confused a lot
pliant ruin
xeroc
dusk laurel
xeroc
mighty zenith
xeroc
dry igloo
Wow, there's a lot more to this lore that I haven't realized.
split mortar
Noxus isn’t a god
pliant ruin
The entire point of yharim's character is
high lynx
xeroc declared himself a "god"
split mortar
Wow, there's a lot more to this lore that I haven't realized.
Yeah it deep I think
rotund shore
yharim describes deus as a "god without sin" aka a worshipped deity who didnt absorb a soul
pliant ruin
He has a ton of conventionally heroic traits and qualities that are usually associated with benevolence and good
high lynx
thus people called those who absorbed auric souls "gods"
pliant ruin
But he's actually a heinous person
high lynx
its just a name
split mortar
And in a few months we are getting a lot of new lore with SSO
dry igloo
One of the reasons I want to learn the lore so much is I'm planning to write a DnD campaign that takes place during Yharim's Crusades.
split mortar
Yo someone else did that
cloud ibex
yharim portrays it as Xeroc having a full on anime villain monologue while in actuality xeroc was probably more like
high lynx
so the base idea of gods can still exist
dusk laurel
yharim portrays it as Xeroc having a full on anime villain monologue while in ac...
true
high lynx
as in something of worship
frank dune
Whats dnd tho?
pliant ruin
dungeons and dragons