lore-discussion

[hoary berry]

[scenic olive]

Explode

[hoary berry]

[frank dune]

I meant lore here

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-cat-explode-mike-interpol-gif-13503338605162614186

[celest kettle]

Tax evasion in terraria

[empty dew]

Okay, give me your Xeroc tax's payment

[frank dune]

How do i pay Xeroc tax

[scenic olive]

you pay with xeroc accepted worldwide currency xerocoins

[frank dune]

How do i get Xerocoins

[trim edge]

bank of xeroc

[mighty zenith]

feed the xerocodiles

[split mortar]

[frank dune]

How to find xerocodiles?

[scenic olive]

by paying the tax

[frank dune]

How do i pay tax 🔂

Alright back to question how would calamity boss taste like. Today we have Xeroc and his taste!

[scenic olive]

Taste like

Xerstone

[mighty zenith]

i cant

no more

[scenic olive]

Petition to rename Yharim whispers to Yharim Yhappings

[frank dune]

Which race is scal

Yall said dhe would taste like human meat

But her skin is grey

And she has horns

She is obviously nkt human

[pliant ruin]

She's human

Just a human with tiny horns

[frank dune]

But horns

Anyone ever questioned what is heaven in cal mod?

(the star has fallen from heavens)

Not space

[pliant ruin]

Its a figure of speech

[mighty zenith]

the heavens in that line is just

space

its a meteor

those fall from space usually

there's also possibly no afterlife in calamity

souls can just

exist in the world

[frank dune]

Sigh

I thought thats some force of nature tbh

Tho

Then what heppens

I mean

Was draedon still i. Team then terrarian came

I mean he built aureus

But astral infection doesnt apper til player kills wof

At same time plague appears to exist pre wof

[frank dune]

Project moon mentioned 💥

[pliant ruin]

The astral infection only showed up recently (post wall) canonically iirc

[frank dune]

So

Aint yharim fired draedon after creating plague

[pliant ruin]

Yes

[frank dune]

But plague exists pre wof

Then did bro built aureus then

[pliant ruin]

Aureus itself was built after but it reused an older model as a base

[frank dune]

Yeah but aint draedon sends aureus before being fired?

[pliant ruin]

No

The infection wasnt even a thing then

[frank dune]

Sigh whtever

Nobody also talks where scal lived after leaving yharim

[pliant ruin]

Cave

She lived in a cave

[frank dune]

Lmao

[frank dune]

No way scal didnt paid Xeroc tax

[untold oracle]

Tax talk detected

Off to the eel pit

[frank dune]

😋

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-pizza-devour-gif-25512719

[latent bolt]

cant use acid eels for the eel pit, theyd just fuck off to the edges of it

[frank dune]

Cooked eels

[sinful adder]

The plague existed long before hardmode in game, the astral infection didn't. Basically everything in lore happens before the player starts

[untold oracle]

A lot of things that exist in lore are not in gameplay right away

Having plague enemies in pre-hardmode would be

Wild

[split mortar]

I find it funny that we can go fight aureus like an hour after hardmode happens meaning the armour that delayed the einfection gave in in like 5 minutes anyways

[split mortar]

Just have nerfed plague enemies

[frank dune]

But aureus was built before plague

Iirc

He was made for yharim to take stuff from astral infection back

[split mortar]

I thought draedon made it to get stuff for himself

[frank dune]

Tbh right

I think small encounters should exist

[split mortar]

Like nerfed plague enemies to show its not post golem?

[frank dune]

Like idk you walk around and random draedons robot digs stuff and other

[split mortar]

Is that not what the labs are

[frank dune]

So lore actually happens outside of yharims yapping

[frank dune]

Labs are abandoned

[split mortar]

Isn’t there the underground digger worms that are draedon stuff and still functional or are they abandoned aswell

[frank dune]

Like idk randomly walk around world and find yharim with his army

[frank dune]

Diggers attacking players but not digging

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[frank dune]

I mean

Encounters like that eill make player feel like he isnt alone in world while stuff happens

[cloud ibex]

I don’t think he has much of an army left

[split mortar]

I think the main reason this won’t happen is that like almost nothing actually canonically happens when the player starts

[split mortar]

Mech bosses

[cloud ibex]

But yes more in-world lore integration would be nice

[cloud ibex]

I wouldn’t say that’s much

[frank dune]

Thats stupid imo

I qlways though lore happens at same time as player goes

[split mortar]

There is desert scoog eating a antlion animation that will happen when you first enter underground desert

[frank dune]

Ofc all started before player

[split mortar]

Like only astral happens during players time iirc

[frank dune]

But mid/later lore should be at same time with player

[split mortar]

Some of the latest is the braelor and statis vs yharim and that’s months to a year before we start

[frank dune]

Thats whose two guys who sent to distortion?

[mighty zenith]

DoG

but yea they got sent to the distortion (though statis got out)

[frank dune]

It will be probably so short you wouldnt even nothice

[mighty zenith]

not really though?
thats what lore is

something that happens in the past in order to give context to events in the present

look at Hollow Knight for instance
basically everything in that game's story takes place before the game starts

[frank dune]

I mean some scenes would be nice

Like idk

Uninfected aureus walking around then you first time enter astral infection

[sinful adder]

No. Aureus was made literally last week or something, between the time that you fought the wall of flesh and fought it, and was not made for yharim at all

[mighty zenith]

wouldnt really make sense
you could stumble on a deactivated (but infected) aureus, that would be neat

[sinful adder]

Well. Aureus was built before the infection landed, but was assigned to go explore the astral infection upon the infection landing on terraria, which happened during the game

Yharim knows what the astral infection is because it was a known phenomenon, just not one that was ever seen on terraria, possibly?

[frank dune]

Yeah dmth like that

[sinful adder]

Actually, why does yharim know anything about the astral infection if it has never been on terraria before? Particularly about how it affects human minds

[frank dune]

Aint astral infection is just rotten stars

In deus lore

Item

[sinful adder]

It would make sense actually. it would have taken time between aureus getting there, which happens off screen some time between WOF and you fighting it, and it becoming infected.

[sinful adder]

Yes.

Well, it's like star mold

[mighty zenith]

maybe he just watched it
its implied he knows about things going on in the world while on aerie

[sinful adder]

I see

[frank dune]

And deus is kinda supposed to eat stars

To prevent astral infection

[sinful adder]

Yeah

We just don't know how anyone like... Knows about that in detail

[mighty zenith]

well with draedon it makes sense

yharim is more farfetched

[pliant ruin]

Yharim cheated on the test

[brisk ore]

deus is actually not on the side of infection?damn idk how you are interested enough in the lore to read that entire document but it surely has some shocking for me facts

[pliant ruin]

Deus is infected

[frank dune]

Yup

We beat infection out kf him and he just flies away

[sinful adder]

Yeah. Why are you here for lore if you can't read the lore lol

[frank dune]

Iirc we dont kill deus

[pliant ruin]

When you beat it you free it from the infection

[brisk ore]

i am not here for the lore but it is interesting too

[pliant ruin]

Which will probs be reflected better with the eventual resprite

[frank dune]

Would be nice to have anim idk

Like then you beat him his shell breaks and sprite changes

He flies around u for a bit

And then returns to sky

[pliant ruin]

Yeah something like that will probably happen

[mighty zenith]

let me headpat deus

he deserves them

[frank dune]

Why well idk he sags somewhat thanks

[frank dune]

I FUCKING LOVE DEUS

[sinful adder]

I want astrum deus to work pretty much exactly like Naydra from BOTW, where it's infected and you free it, and then it flies around the world

[pliant ruin]

Good giant space worm

[frank dune]

Botw?

Though

Neat idea

[sinful adder]

Breath of the wild, Zelda game

There's a dragon who's infected with bad guy juice and you gotta shoot the corruption eyes with arrows to get it out of them

[frank dune]

Never played zelda games but alright

[brisk ore]

bad guy juice

such a great description

[pliant ruin]

This reminded me

I wanna play oot again

[mighty zenith]

ive never played a zelda game

[frank dune]

Still

Id like to encounter yharim outside of being boss

Idk just randomly in world just as npc or smth

[humble fog]

He likes to go to dennys

[pliant ruin]

He's in the aerie

Good luck finding him lol

[pliant ruin]

Play OOT

[humble fog]

Denneries

[brisk ore]

were waiting every night to eat some dennys fried rice...

[frank dune]

I am sure

[pliant ruin]

Im not super vocal about it but its one of my favorite games ever

[mighty zenith]

yes he is

[pliant ruin]

He is actually

[pliant ruin]

Project 64,,, emulate it
Genuinely so fkin good

Amazing game, it was considered the best zelda game for a reason (until botw showed up)

[frank dune]

Make yharim touch grass then

[real silo]

Unfinished because I'm hungy

this shit took 2 and a half hours

[mighty zenith]

can he beat goku

[real silo]

Unfortunately no but he can look majestic

[mighty zenith]

fair enough

very neat art btw 👍

[frank dune]

Hello hungry

[frank dune]

No shit he didnt pulled scal

[random mulch]

cool xeroc

[frank dune]

Bro aint even touching grass

Sitting in aerie

What a fucking disappointment

[mighty zenith]

there's definitely plenty of grass in the aerie

[frank dune]

Yharim canonically got 0 bitches

[brisk ore]

you have some personal beef with yharim

[cloud ibex]

Probably

I can see him putting the crusade way above any personal relationships

[frank dune]

What will bro do then crusade ends?

[mighty zenith]

it already ended

and like

die i guess

he's only got a few years left

[frank dune]

How old is he

[random mulch]

around 130

[frank dune]

Bro really pulled no bitches

[cloud ibex]

Like I said I imagine he didn’t care to

[frank dune]

Not really/somewhat atleast thats my lorr

[frank dune]

We gonna beat up and old man

[cloud ibex]

You will

[mighty zenith]

an old man that could pulverize a regular person with a punch

[frank dune]

Well actually no

[brisk ore]

so why such a strong person dies at like 150?at least some people think so

[frank dune]

Age

[brisk ore]

he is literally a calamity god level person

[mighty zenith]

his body can stay at its peak condition but it's still getting old

[brisk ore]

why would he die at 150?

[mighty zenith]

eventually it's just going to shut down, its just slower and not noticable to him

[split mortar]

Because he doesn’t have anyway to stop age

[frank dune]

Imagine coming to aerie and he is already dead

Plot twist

[brisk ore]

good idea.boss checklist would spoil it but still

[woeful patio]

I like to imagine that Yharim owns a child just for the purpose of continuing the crusade

Nvm Yharim have the terrarian

[frank dune]

How old is scal

Btw

[brisk ore]

yharim is the kind of guy to say no cost too great

[split mortar]

27-28

[mighty zenith]

in her late 20s

[split mortar]

Yea

And hk reference

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/hear-me-out-gif-16405942403770438522

[woeful patio]

[frank dune]

Tho why tf she is gray

[frank dune]

Is that some effect of living at brim crags?

[mighty zenith]

thats just how azafurians look

[brisk ore]

the HK track violin starts playing

it is stuck in my head forever

[mighty zenith]

sealed vessel my beloved

[frank dune]

I cannot believe brjmmy just destroyed it

[brisk ore]

he literally looks like Gabriel from hit fast paced shooter Ultrakill made by New Blood

[mighty zenith]

i think its funny how they were designed at a similar time to each other

gabriel was released in like 2020 and draedon had this design around that time as well

and then a year later he was added to the game

[frank dune]

Like she is early hm boss

[pliant ruin]

friendly reminder supreme calamitas is aroace

:p

[split mortar]

^

[frank dune]

Like how she even managed to?

[pliant ruin]

brimmy is a fraud that's why

[brisk ore]

what does that even mean?

[pliant ruin]

(serious answer is that she probably used to be stronger)

[pliant ruin]

aromantic asexual

[brisk ore]

i worked for brimstone elemental she is a fraud

[split mortar]

She has little to no sexual and romantic attraction

[split mortar]

I have a theory that scal was absorbing brims power somehow

[real silo]

Osmosis

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

[split mortar]

Womp womp

[pliant ruin]

:/

[frank dune]

Id like to think what brimmy is just antisocial and tried to make ppl go away

[woeful patio]

Imagine Brimstone Elemental without her power being absorbed

That means she's more powerful than cal

[brisk ore]

applies brimstone flames debuff when she is on the screen

[pliant ruin]

i think prime brimmy would probably be early post ml

personally

[frank dune]

Tbh i dont really care so yeah

[pliant ruin]

yeah but the way you responded was still weird

[split mortar]

She would be about as powerful as scal but due to no skill be pre yharon imo

[mighty zenith]

no, the fictional woman does not want to fuck you

[pliant ruin]

being ace in the calamity community is like being a betta fish living in a tiny shitty aquarium with dirty water taht is fed once every 2 days

[calm patio]

Get out

[frank dune]

Idk ive just seen ppl simping for scal

[pliant ruin]

yeah and they're weird

don't jump in the bandwagon

[frank dune]

Just cant just joke alil bit

[mighty zenith]

people will simp for anything
like literally anything

[dusk laurel]

hey lore discussion

[mighty zenith]

that doesnt mean its okay

[pliant ruin]

hi vanillin

[brisk ore]

vanillin here

[dusk laurel]

what's the discussion tonight

[brisk ore]

you are not getting banned today.or are you?

[dusk laurel]

whar

[pliant ruin]

vanillin is a silly guy why would they get banned

[brisk ore]

no im talking about the whole chat +jk

[frank dune]

Wdym by anything

[calm patio]

Hmm. A joke has been hundreds of times of the hivemind.

[mighty zenith]

ive seen people thirsting over rocks

like not even joking

[pliant ruin]

ive seen people thirsting over

you'd never believe it

water

haha

do you

do you get it

because

thirst

water

haha.

[dusk laurel]

Are we still on about this

[frank dune]

[pliant ruin]

unfortunately

[mighty zenith]

anyway i wanna change topics now

[pliant ruin]

it is what it is

[brisk ore]

this place never changes

[mighty zenith]

plant

silly guy

[pliant ruin]

slime god jr

wait

no

[brisk ore]

i dont think there were days when it was normal

[pliant ruin]

slime jesus

[mighty zenith]

speaking of that

[dusk laurel]

this is like half of the messages i see you send here

[mighty zenith]

i decided to change how they'd interact with SG

[dusk laurel]

what do you care abt

[mighty zenith]

instead of befriending them, they would slaughter the paladins

and then just

[frank dune]

Lore and killing that stupid yharim

[mighty zenith]

stare

at slime god

as its shitting its metaphorical pants

[frank dune]

[pliant ruin]

so your guy and slime god would be like

frenemies

[mighty zenith]

this weird thing just destroyed its paladins and is just
standing there, staring at it

and then sg would just flee as usual

[frank dune]

Standing here

I realize

[brisk ore]

menacingly

[mighty zenith]

because slime god isnt considered not-pure by them

so after mercilessly killing the paladins, they just let slime god go

[brisk ore]

you are just like me.trying to make references

[mighty zenith]

who is, obviously, terrified

[indigo glade]

No, I do not.

[mighty zenith]

kind of

[frank dune]

Befriending slime god would be cool ngl

Though

Yharim aint gonna be happy

[split mortar]

Well I don’t care he should be mad

[mighty zenith]

slime god cant really keep new paladins for long because they'd just murder them but they also purify the essences those paladins contain

[dusk laurel]

slime god COULD be your friend if you want

[split mortar]

They beat the paladins to death with purification powder?

[dusk laurel]

it's for you to choose

if you wanna stab him or not

[split mortar]

Due to in game stuff you would have to not kill queen slime for that I’m pretty sure

[mighty zenith]

they are a personification of purification powder

[indigo glade]

Slime God:

Put evil biomes in slimes
???
Profit

[dusk laurel]

i don't kill qs anyways

[pliant ruin]

ive killed queen slime

rest in peace slime fraud

[mighty zenith]

so realistically, anything they use that is an extension of them, like magic, can also purify things

[dusk laurel]

slime grindset

be perfect lifeforms

[split mortar]

What is purification powder lore

Like why can it erase god essence

[mighty zenith]

easiest way to explain it is they're like...

a purity elemental

[mighty zenith]

fuck if i know

[pliant ruin]

Maybe purity powder truly "decomposes" the divine essence in some way

[mighty zenith]

i wanna come up with a cool idea

[pliant ruin]

the question is how its made lol

[mighty zenith]

rn its mostly just "silva/dryad magic"

[split mortar]

So it’s like a catalyst that lets it decompose instead of fester and grow?

[untold oracle]

Why didn’t Yharim buy a shit ton of it

[frank dune]

Dogs vomit

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah dryad

Can’t associate with gods

[dusk laurel]

He'd kill her

then steal all of it

[split mortar]

So we already associate with gods with dryad

[frank dune]

Yay 😄

But he is jn danger btw

[woeful patio]

What if purification powder is just something that the Dyrad got from Silva

[frank dune]

Yharims plan gone wrong way

[woeful patio]

And it expands her domain

[frank dune]

He is gonna try to murder u and sg

[brisk ore]

totally normal message with nothing somewhat funny to it

[untold oracle]

Domain expansion: Abyssan Exile

[dusk laurel]

.

Clarity mod

[woeful patio]

[frank dune]

Bro wanted you to kill sg

And youre going wrong way

[woeful patio]

That wasn't on purpose

[mighty zenith]

my current idea for purification powder is that it's like god essence of the world itself

like residue from the world soul

which is why the nature elemental (and the beings connected to it) can use it

[untold oracle]

Must be ridiculously expensive then

[mighty zenith]

since its literally essence of nature itself

[frank dune]

I am gonna absorb world soul

[brisk ore]

it turns out you were a god

[frank dune]

Hm

Alright then not absorb

Just collect it

Put it into special container

[mighty zenith]

(i mostly just wanna use the world soul for something because its so cool but also basically doesnt exist in the lore rn)

and i think connecting Silva to the world itself is neat

[pliant ruin]

i'm gonna put the world soul in a really big box

[brisk ore]

a rubber box

[dusk laurel]

The entirety of the city of Azafure pre-incident:

[frank dune]

L.R.C has enough different containing units from safe to very dangerous or even gofly

[mighty zenith]

im gonna put the world soul in a really big sphere

and the sphere has like
life on it

[frank dune]

So containing soul of world would be easy

[woeful patio]

Big terrarium

And called it

Terraria

[dusk laurel]

cheese, if you get close to the world soul again, you'll fuse and become blue cheese

you wanna avoid the allegations

right?

[mighty zenith]

i trailed off and forgor my point

[frank dune]

What kf gods have a child

[mighty zenith]

i need names for this guy

[frank dune]

Yharim kills em too?

[mighty zenith]

give me your worst ideas lorers

[brisk ore]

im a basic guy.Elder Dryad

[mighty zenith]

I think that'd work better as a title

[dusk laurel]

high demon elgrim

[mighty zenith]

based?

[frank dune]

Theoretically if one god will have a child with another

Is it considered pure?

[dusk laurel]

idk

[mighty zenith]

im gonna name him pajama sam #26

[dusk laurel]

no way

[untold oracle]

Yharon actually killed Zeratros and forced Xeroc to absorb it

[brisk ore]

i couldnt see this reference coming

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

good name

[brisk ore]

this is the last thing i could have expected

[dusk laurel]

a fellow one i see

[frank dune]

Plot twist

[mighty zenith]

vanillin just referenced it so

[untold oracle]

Oh you were asking for a name

Name him Gilgamesh the Calamitous

[frank dune]

World core

[mighty zenith]

maurice

[brisk ore]

you are so Δ

[untold oracle]

[frank dune]

Grumple

[woeful patio]

ULTRAKILL MENT- Ultracoinned

[brisk ore]

+MAURICED

[frank dune]

Aint leviathan is a dragon?

[dusk laurel]

no.

[mighty zenith]

she's a whale iirc

[dusk laurel]

levi has never been a dragon iirc

[frank dune]

Are elementals sentient though?

I mean

Anahita doesnt attack ya til you go first

So that always got me questioning

[dusk laurel]

kind of

they want to expand their domains

[mighty zenith]

according to Cei, anahita and silva are sapient

brimmy isnt

[dusk laurel]

why isn't brimmy?

[mighty zenith]

idk

[dusk laurel]

is it because she is the incarnation of heat?

since it's harder to kill her than silva

[frank dune]

Silva aint elemental

[mighty zenith]

she is

[dusk laurel]

she is.

[brisk ore]

[dusk laurel]

she's also a goddess

[mighty zenith]

nature elemental

goddess of life

and first dryad

[dusk laurel]

^

mother dryad according to one of the devs

[brisk ore]

is the npc dryad still the last in calamity lore?outside of Silva

[frank dune]

I remember she doesnt look like an elemental

[dusk laurel]

(he doesn't know)

all elementals except anahita are getting redesigned

to be more organic

and not just colors and smth else

[empty dew]

Is there a reason why some lore items are different from each other?

[mighty zenith]

wdym

[real silo]

This is misinformation

[empty dew]

Awakening, KS and EoW respectively

[mighty zenith]

more diversity so theyre not just recolors

[real silo]

Reb said she would be called mother dryad if she was the origin of dryads' powers

[dusk laurel]

ah

[empty dew]

Probably better ask a dev, but is there a system for those shapes?

[real silo]

Or something along the lines of that

[dusk laurel]

i read the messages wrong

[real silo]

Do not tempt aido

[frank dune]

Silva has such a personality

Why did yharim killed an elemental

[dusk laurel]

because

she was a goddess as well

[real silo]

Yharim shoved her in davy jones' locker

[brisk ore]

yharim is just Kratos

[frank dune]

Bro missed another chance to get a gf

Bro is so stupid

[dusk laurel]

.

I'm gonna steal your kidneys

[frank dune]

Nah

[brisk ore]

he'd win

[mighty zenith]

we all know yharim is gay

[dusk laurel]

^

he had draedong

[frank dune]

Bro forgot to pull drawdon

Bro fired draedon

[dusk laurel]

and then they broke up

[real silo]

And then we stole draedon's heart

[mighty zenith]

they just needed time apart 🥀

[real silo]

Literally and figuratively

[dusk laurel]

no comment.

[real silo]

"you are too valuable for me to let you die" 🔥 ✍️

[frank dune]

Aint yharim is like into yharon

[dusk laurel]

.

[mighty zenith]

wha

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explosion-sad-explode-gif-15295996165959499721

[dusk laurel]

I'm gonna steal your neural system

[frank dune]

No

[dusk laurel]

this is strange

[frank dune]

I was kidding guys

[dusk laurel]

weird comment

[scenic olive]

i have no neurons

zero braincell

[dusk laurel]

this is the 4th time i've seen you do this

[brisk ore]

he is going to steal your very life essence

[dusk laurel]

at some point it won't be a joke

[brisk ore]

he is not kidding

[frank dune]

I am just silly today

Geez

[mighty zenith]

you can be silly without being weird

[dusk laurel]

^

[real silo]

Wrong

Open your mailbox.

[frank dune]

Fine

[brisk ore]

commits terrible warcrimes" i am just silly today guys it was a joke"

[dusk laurel]

_ _

[real silo]

It was just for the laughs

For the hahas

[frank dune]

Yeah thats my lore howd you know

[dusk laurel]

boring lore, give me a 20 page thesis on why you are the way you are

[frank dune]

I am still writing thats stuff

[mighty zenith]

the word "autism" written for 20 pages

[dusk laurel]

[real silo]

autism like

[frank dune]

I dont have autism

[real silo]

aure

[real silo]

not yet

injects you with lore autism juice

[dusk laurel]

blasts you with the draedon autism death array of knowledge

[real silo]

Also idk why being really into something is considered autism

Seems weird

[dusk laurel]

idrk either

[brisk ore]

you are either really quick at making memes or somehow found this picture

both are equally impressing

[woeful patio]

I saved it

[brisk ore]

wdym?you made it before and now used it again?

[woeful patio]

I didn't made it

I found it long ago in lore disc

[real silo]

It's a popular image

[dusk laurel]

draedon sends his propaganda everywhere

he wants us to forget what he did

[scenic olive]

Yharlore

[scenic olive]

Draeus

Astrum Draeus

[frank dune]

Ultra barrier

No way to break it

[scenic olive]

How powerful would Exo Powered Storm Weaver would be

[untold oracle]

Yharim created Xeroc

In his head

[dusk laurel]

🤯

[untold oracle]

(It’s to justify his actions)

[real silo]

Well it's not a machine

It's like giving a mini nuclear reactor to a cat

[brisk ore]

yharim has schizophrenia and the terrarian is just one of his illusions

[untold oracle]

If someone sends that picture I will throw them to the tax pit

[brisk ore]

what one?

[real silo]

Me I'm the picture

[untold oracle]

The terrarian lore

[brisk ore]

why do you hate it?

[real silo]

delstinky

[untold oracle]

You are stinky!

[real silo]

No I'm Altraxia

Get your facts gay

[split mortar]

They’re on about this image

[brisk ore]

i thought so too

[frank dune]

Xeroc: i created you and you created me.
Me: why did you create this guy
Yharim: i didnt he is yappin

[frank dune]

Heck naw

[hoary berry]

hi lore chat

[frank dune]

What an idiot would try to replace virgin yharim

Hello goose

[dusk laurel]

hey goose

[split mortar]

Hello goose

[brisk ore]

hello

[hoary berry]

i have a 30 minutes break before i need to head back to college

well actually only 20 minutes by now

[split mortar]

I have like a hour left of this break

[hoary berry]

i don't have any particularly long breaks

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-ducking-happy-feet-playtime-bath-gif-7785501084240633282

[hoary berry]

but i do get a four day weekend

[split mortar]

Fucking lucky

[hoary berry]

monday through wednesday are a bit of a slog but the rest of the week is great

since it's four days straight of free time it's a lot easier to balance revision/practice and recreation too

compared to a messy schedule

[split mortar]

Good to hear

[untold oracle]

Hi goos

[hoary berry]

hiya

okay i need to get ready to leave already lmao

byee

[frank dune]

Dead chat xd

No new lore

[cloud ibex]

chat can be a little dead, as a treat

[mighty zenith]

cat in sink

[random mulch]

soft cat

[untold oracle]

What is that cat doing in a sink?

[real silo]

would you rather cat in the sink or sink in the cat

[untold oracle]

I was just thinking about should I say that lmao

[mighty zenith]

chilling

he's also really really stinky

[magic epoch]

That's why he's there of course

Man fuck

Whenever i think of cats i get sad

[mighty zenith]

im sorry

[magic epoch]

What no

Don't apple jize

[mighty zenith]

dont want u to feel sad

[untold oracle]

Open the sink

Give the car a shower

[mighty zenith]

no cause he'll still be stinky

he'll just be wet and stinky

[magic epoch]

Garbo do you not use shampoo when you shower

[untold oracle]

Give it soap then

[mighty zenith]

i dont shower in the sink usually

anyway its his butte thats stinky cause this creature doesnt want to clean himself ever

[untold oracle]

Wretched being

[magic epoch]

Makes sense cats don't usually clean they butt

[mighty zenith]

whar

my other cat does

this one doesnt

[deft vessel]

Catnoodle

[magic epoch]

How would they

[mighty zenith]

every cat ive taken care of cleaned themselves

except this vermin (positive)

[magic epoch]

How would they clean the butter

[mighty zenith]

flexible

[magic epoch]

I don't think most cats can make a meow ring

[deft vessel]

Cats do not follow the laws of physics

in fact

[mighty zenith]

but at least he doesnt have issues with pooping anymore

so as long as he's feeling better he can be stinky

:D

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/coupon-blast-limbus-company-ricardo-coupon-blast-gif-4559413624013774571

hi im going insane

hi lore chat hello

[frank dune]

project moon 🔥 mentioned

[pliant ruin]

they made a fucking official spore discord

i'm losing it

my brain is shrivelling up

we live in the matrix

reality isn't real

[frank dune]

wga

[pliant ruin]

go ask #calamity-addon-talk idk

[frank dune]

lore-discurssion

[grizzled sun]

sorry

[magic epoch]

lore concussion

[dusk laurel]

lore explosion

[dusk laurel]

bwah

[sinful adder]

Wtf

Spore revival

I was on their modding discord last week because i decided to play it again

[hoary berry]

[untold oracle]

I’m not sure what to do with recalls/mirrors

Maybe I’ll just not include them considering they’re kinda busted

[hoary berry]

When I get on my laptop I can give you an idea I just thought of for them if u want

[untold oracle]

Yeah sure

Is the calamity menu background the aerie?

[frigid mulch]

Why does providence only come out of the hiding when moon lord is down for good?

[ionic harness]

Cuz like

Actually idk

I feel like I don’t know much of the lore anymore

[hoary berry]

we need an aido lore training arc

[ionic harness]

I used to actually talk about lore in here

[latent bolt]

reality is an illusion

[ionic harness]

@pliant ruin do you still have fish facts?

[hoary berry]

this is rather wordy, and i'll probably try to revise it later to make it more concise, but:

Recall items: one of the oldest magic spells known to most mages, recall magic relies on two linked arrays of runes; one on the body of the user, with the characters spread to provide an equal flow of magic across the entirety of one’s body, and the other engraved into mana-rich rock in the location one wishes to return to. The magic linking these two arrays—in turn linking the individual to the location—can be activated via the consumption of a special potion colloquially referred to as a ‘Recall Potion’, or alternatively by engraving a matching set of runes onto a third object which can be used to mimic the effect of such a potion.
Given that additional sets of runes on one’s body would not only be infeasible due to limited space but *also *intensely dangerous due to the risk of the magic lines of each array crossing (a common cause of accidental amputation), it is common practice to only ever link oneself to a single location at a time.

[pliant ruin]

giant mottled eels are the largest species of freshwater eels and also they look fucking stupid

[hoary berry]

silly fellas

[pliant ruin]

guy

[ionic harness]

Yesssssss

I missed this

[untold oracle]

Oh so you gotta be very careful or like one of your limbs won’t teleport with you?

[hoary berry]

yeah that's what i was thinking

[pliant ruin]

Would teleporation potions follow a similar logic but with the addition of a random element

[untold oracle]

If I do implement it I’ll prob go with that but I’ll see

[hoary berry]

the idea as a whole also serves to limit the use of recall magic in battle greatly, since the massive amounts of mana flowing about would mean that activating the recall arrays would be very very risky (which would be why people don't always just recall away when in danger in a fight)

[hoary berry]

i thought about that a little but i'm undecided on if i want that to be a separate thing or not

i'm tempted to go the slightly radical route and link it to the rod of discord and primordial light

[pliant ruin]

i mean

you do make telep potions with chaos fish

from the hallow

so there's already a connection to chaos elementals and RoD there

which themselves are linked to primordial light bc of eidolon wyrm

sooo

[hoary berry]

but i could also just say that a random teleportation potion is just drinking a regular teleportation potion without being linked to any recall arrays
so you get sent to a seemingly random area that is high in magic or something, maybe due to being the site of a recall array in the past

i'll probably go with the PL route due to that evidence, yeah

but i'm not dead set on it

[pliant ruin]

the relation that hallow has with chaos and primordial light is smth im curious abt

since in theory

hallow shouldn't rly have any connection with primordial light beyond both being tangentially related to gods

so there's prob smth going on in there we dont know abt yet

[hoary berry]

it's quite interesting for me because it's a topic you can very easily make headcanons about but can't fully make sense of due to a lack of concrete information

so it's a nice breeding ground for fun theories

though you could say the same thing for a bunch of stuff right now

[untold oracle]

Why does killing wof empower sunken sea?

Is it because like otonilou’s and the sea god’s essences are there and they just go there

[pliant ruin]

i mean

i dont think everything that happens in hm is caused by wof

unless you want to believe the existence of Angler Fish and Wolves is caused by divine essence

[split mortar]

Maybe, though killing wof is one of the few planet spanning or continent spanning events so it may just be some other water adjacent gods buffing stuff there we don’t really know for sure

[untold oracle]

No I’m not saying everything

I think that the sunken sea buffing might be wof’s effects tho

[pliant ruin]

i mean idk

i dont see either of the

hradmode sunken sea creaturews

as particularly otonilou or tyrian aligned

they're just

random fish

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah forgot the creatures

I was thinking mainly of giant clams getting more powerful

[pliant ruin]

Give clams are gonna be invasive species i think with SSO then idk

if it is related to otonilou/tyrian then it's probably unwilling

[untold oracle]

Oh clams are invasive?

Cool

[brave dew]

Guys is dogs armor created by draedon ?

[hoary berry]

yeah

[untold oracle]

Is dog’s armor directly installed to it or is it a wearable armor

[hoary berry]

not known afaik

i like to think he teleports into it

but that debatably just wouldn't work

depends on how the armour fits onto him

[dusk laurel]

Doggo armor

[hoary berry]

wait that's a car

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[hoary berry]

[hoary berry]

your profile picture is working for me now

neat

[untold oracle]

It has begun

[dusk laurel]

Fovos

[brave dew]

So technically is actual devourer of god just a clone ?

[dusk laurel]

whar.

[brave dew]

Since he wears his armor in both his phase

[dusk laurel]

no?

he doesn't wear armor in p1

[brave dew]

Oh

[hoary berry]

refer to dog's new sprite

[dusk laurel]

sprite issue

[hoary berry]

not the in-game one

[dusk laurel]

^

[brave dew]

Yeah

[hoary berry]

the in-game one doesn't reflect much of anything about dog

beyond serpent thing with many teeth

[real silo]

Xeroc invading the distortion and smiting noxus' many minions

[hoary berry]

🔥

[dusk laurel]

✅

[hoary berry]

glowing lone longsword of searing light

[untold oracle]

It’s so peak….

[real silo]

I love white man

[dusk laurel]

.

[untold oracle]

I think the distortion makes PL weaker

[real silo]

Maybe

[wheat walrus]

What

Longsword?

Like

[hoary berry]

omni

[dusk laurel]

☹️

[hoary berry]

no

[wheat walrus]

Monster Hunter weapon?!

[dusk laurel]

omni.

[hoary berry]

[dusk laurel]

longswords are real

not just MH

[real silo]

I'm killing omni

Any objections?

[dusk laurel]

no

i accept it

[wheat walrus]

I will return btw

[hoary berry]

should i play some terraria or hollow knight

[untold oracle]

This boutta get wild

[untold oracle]

What have you played more rn?

[hoary berry]

uh

[untold oracle]

In like now

[hoary berry]

i have about 2k hours in terraria and tmod combined i think

across all platforms

only like
fifty or so in hk probably

[untold oracle]

Maybe play hk

[hoary berry]

can you tell which one i got addicted to lmao

[untold oracle]

Or terraria

Depends on you

[hoary berry]

"which of these two games should i play?"
"that one. or that one if you want."

[dusk laurel]

kh

[hoary berry]

kh

[dusk laurel]

knight of the hollow

[hoary berry]

idr where i am in my current hk pt

i think i've got all abyss spells and movement items

but i haven't got any dreamers and only have one nail upgrade

i also need to go and get NMG from sly since i got dash slash last time i played

and in terraria, masomode golem is next

           i think i'll go for hollow knight

[untold oracle]

I think you should play that one

[hoary berry]

[dusk laurel]

cat

[hoary berry]

my grandparents' cat is so cute

[dusk laurel]

el gato

[hoary berry]

the annoying thing is that i have physical photos of my family's cats but very few digital ones

[dusk laurel]

that's a shame, i hope you can recover

[untold oracle]

The physical ones last a lot longer

[hoary berry]

so if i want to show people those photos online i have to take a photo of them
which lowers the quality a fair bit due to reflections

[hoary berry]

[dusk laurel]

astrg

[untold oracle]

astrg

[hoary berry]

teh slime

the

[dusk laurel]

teh slimoy

soo goopy

[untold oracle]

The god of sludge

[hoary berry]

[untold oracle]

I was reading some 2 month old stuff here and I almost replied 😭

[dusk laurel]

dw

i had worse incidents by accident

[cloud ibex]

omni.

☹️

[dusk laurel]

we need to fix him

he's been rotting even more than usual

[untold oracle]

😦

Should we kill omni?

[dusk laurel]

no...

violence is never the answer

unless it's noxus

[pliant ruin]

in a few weeks omni will go outside and look at the soil under his feet and go holy shit its like the debuff that barroth inflicts on you

[untold oracle]

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

he'll see a pigeon flyoing above him

and go

holy shit

its a flying wyvern

[dusk laurel]

he's falling ever farther from gtace

[untold oracle]

He’s even more far gone than Yharim

Lore

[wheat walrus]

True bird wyvern*

[pliant ruin]

omni look behind you its furious rajang

[wheat walrus]

I have recently farmed this guy so maybe these days I will

[wheat walrus]

Shield

[spring helm]

What is the difference between hellfire and brimstone flames

[hoary berry]

1233popcorn

[spring helm]

Lore worse

Wise

[pliant ruin]

brimstone is hotter probably

and

i imagine

brimstone flames have like

sulphur particles in them

given

yknow

brimstone

[spring helm]

They smell like farts

[pliant ruin]

hellfire is just stronger fire

brimstone fire is like

[dusk laurel]

sulphuric sea

[pliant ruin]

fire with burning sulphur particles on it

which probably makes it burn more idk

[hoary berry]

i had a point to make regarding this topic but i forgor it

im gonna go play hollow knight now

[spring helm]

It is in your lore document

[hoary berry]

goodbye lorers

[spring helm]

Goodbye

[hoary berry]

[untold oracle]

Don’t brimstone flames also have a psychological impact

[spring helm]

I thought that was necromancy

[pliant ruin]

No that's just cal's magic

[real silo]

Hi choese

[pliant ruin]

I mean that seems plausible but i don't think there's anything stating necromancy as a whole takes a toll on the psyche

It's calamitas's magic specifically that does

[untold oracle]

Huh? Brimstone flames’ debuff desc is ”burning both body and mind” iirc

[pliant ruin]

also hai

[spring helm]

Just magic in general for her?

[pliant ruin]

oh hmm i missed that

weird

[untold oracle]

Lemme check rq

[pliant ruin]

According to the changelogs the tooltip was not changed since its first introduction

so maybe it's outdated but maybe it's been intentionally kept that way

[real silo]

Me going to the beach that makes you crazy

[untold oracle]

incinerating both body and mind

[pliant ruin]

I don't recall any other mentions of brimstone flames affecting the mind outside of that tooltip though so i'm kindaaa leaning onto the former but it's also possible that's intentional

[untold oracle]

So maybe the brimstone flames burn your mind too and that’s why scal’s magic takes a mental toll on her

[spring helm]

Crazy how a vanilla debuff hits way harder

[pliant ruin]

Yeah maybe but it still seems a little strange to me that it's not mentioned anywhere else, specially with it seemingly being a natural thing

Maybe there's a ton of magic within the brimstone lava or something

[indigo glade]

Brimstone Flames is much earlier than Daybroken.

[pliant ruin]

[spring helm]

It is?

Honestly I don’t pay much attention to these, I probably should since I’m writing a calamity fic

[pliant ruin]

Oh wait

Crags lava debuff is different

it's Searing Lavba

[indigo glade]

Yes. Brimstone Flames is a debuff inflicted by drops surrounding Brimstone Crags and Calamitas Clone.

[untold oracle]

Welp, calclone, crag enemies, brimmy

[spring helm]

So this is the one then

[untold oracle]

Holy shit

Your mental fortitude is fading

[spring helm]

Real shit

[pliant ruin]

Now that i'm looking at the enemies that actually inflict brimstone flames, knowing that the lava itself inflicts a different debuff, the idea of it being a psychological + physical thing makes more sense

[ruby heart]

-1332 health per second

[pliant ruin]

it's basically just calclone which is self explanatory, brimstone elemental, and a bunch of the crags enemies which are all more or less either "undead" or cursed magic things

the only real exceptions are exo mechs which i mean i'm not gonna question it it's draedon

and

erm.

[spring helm]

There are 9 electricity, cold, and water debuffs altogether in calamity
There are 11 heat debuffs

[pliant ruin]

[spring helm]

Fire type bias

[pliant ruin]

literally the Fucking Fish

what are you Doing Here

[spring helm]

What is that

Why is there a fish

[pliant ruin]

chaotic puffer

abyss enemy

it inflicts brimstone flames

[split mortar]

It’s fish

[pliant ruin]

and is the only enemy outside of crags and bosses to do so

😭

[rotund shore]

fucked up fishie

[pliant ruin]

me going up to a fish

when it suddenly starts making me relive my worst traumas (it inflicted brimstone flames on me and is taking a toll on my psyche)

scoria dsoen't even inflict brimstone flame on you either, why does this guy?? 😭 hes literally a scoria guy

[split mortar]

So either scal and brimmy fight and illmeris incineration has caused their brimstone magics to be so far out that a species has adapted to use it

Or brimstone magic burns your mind anyway

[split mortar]

The fish is more concentrated obviously

[untold oracle]

What are the lore implications???

[indigo glade]

I believe that is only because they did not want to add an entire debuff just for one of the Exo Mechs to represent "this is hot fire that is as hot as brimstone"

Mantis Shrimp should inflict Brimstone Flames.

[spring helm]

Draedon just recreated the brimstone flames

Simple as

[pliant ruin]

Mantis shrimp should inflict daybroken

no like

straight up

it should

[spring helm]

We know Yharim asked him to do it too

[pliant ruin]

daybroken is from solar pillar

and

yk

[indigo glade]

Why.

[split mortar]

Pretty sure daybroken is only for enemies since it’s from daybreak, a endgame weapon

[pliant ruin]

what mantis shrimp do with their claws

it's literally the most fitting debuff for it

[split mortar]

Doesn’t brimstone flame reach that temp?

Mantis shrimp should inflict brimstone flame

[indigo glade]

No...?

[spring helm]

Nah it should do the miracle matter debuffs

[split mortar]

Everything should inflict brimstone

[indigo glade]

Did you forget Mantis Shrimp's bestiary entry.

[indigo glade]

This.

[pliant ruin]

daybroken is a solar pillar thing

mantis shrimp in real life can punch so fast that they make bubbles of heat comparable to the temperature of the surface of the sun

solar pillar

sun

[split mortar]

Mantis shrimp are huge so it’s likely hotter then surface of sun

In calamity

[indigo glade]

But this is Calamity, and in Calamity, it is only as hot as Brimstone Flames.

[pliant ruin]

That's lame as fuck

make it as hot as the sun

[spring helm]

This isn’t lore but my honey crystallized

[split mortar]

(Brimstone flame may be hotter then the surface of the irl sun)

[indigo glade]

Blame the lore writers.

[pliant ruin]

what do you mean the REAL LIFE ANIMAL is cooler than the SUPERSIZED FICTIONAL VERSION of it

lame

make it as hot as the sun

[spring helm]

The boss rush enemies should deal primordial light debuff

[split mortar]

Yes

[untold oracle]

-1000 hp

[pliant ruin]

the boss rush enemies should deal wocky slosh debuff

[indigo glade]

@spare pier Cheese hates you and thinks you are lame.