lore-discussion

[split mortar]

You want moonlord to have birthed noxus?

[untold oracle]

Doesn’t make sensies

[sleek halo]

I don’t want fovos or noxus to have come from either one them

[split mortar]

Same

[sleek halo]

I want the reason for the their existence to be

left ambiguous

there’s some things we don’t need to know

[split mortar]

I think it semi undermines the whole “another threat could appear any time” cause if Noxus was made by ml then is it not just still dealing with fovos stuff basically

[sleek halo]

yeah

[indigo glade]

Could you say there are things in this world we are not meant to see?

[dusk sequoia]

just curious do we know the how long ago the war against the gods was before the events of calamity gameplay?

[split mortar]

Shut

[sleek halo]

Noxus feels like a fundamentally different threat

[split mortar]

Around a century

[untold oracle]

A voice… of a deity

[split mortar]

Yeah

[sleek halo]

And I would rather it be treated as such

not just

[dusk sequoia]

thanks

[sleek halo]

“oooo Fovos 2.0”

[split mortar]

And gods came around like 800 years ago

[split mortar]

Same

[indigo glade]

It started a century ago, and is still technically ongoing, since the Mech Trio are still around killing people, and, as far as we know, Yharim's army never officially disbanded.

[dusk sequoia]

holy thank you guys

[split mortar]

Draedon is like 660 years old if that helps

[untold bluff]

lore discussion

[untold oracle]

Nothing happened here

[split mortar]

Moonlord mpreg

[untold oracle]

Helo

[spare pier]

Holy fucking shit you're Crimson I just realized that

[split mortar]

Whose crimson

[untold oracle]

I wonder

[untold bluff]

Lmao

[mighty zenith]

no, he's..... steve

[sleek halo]

It’d just be so much

less interesting to me

[untold bluff]

My twin brother Brian was a hero... Until he used his powers for evil.

[indigo glade]

It's right behind me, isn't it?

[proven rivet]

Brian Griffin???

[indigo glade]

Did you know that the story for the movie is being leaked.

[untold bluff]

Yeah it was

[untold oracle]

Orchestral wet hands in minor starts playing

[split mortar]

I don’t really care

[untold bluff]

Somebody already recreated the movie cheaply using the leaked plot

[indigo glade]

Fantastic.

[untold oracle]

We need to craft weapons… we need to minecraft…

[indigo glade]

I bet it is better than whatever slop is being made right now.

[untold bluff]

They should seriously remake the movie from the ground up

[untold oracle]

It needs the sonic movie treatment

[split mortar]

They didn’t even need to do real life acting or anything

[untold bluff]

For the whole movie ong? 😭

[untold bluff]

Exactly

[split mortar]

Just do the update trailers stuff

[untold bluff]

I would've even been fine if it looked like Minecraft story mode

[split mortar]

Looks great and no one complains

[split mortar]

Yeah or that

[tall delta]

terrarian mother is called flores

[untold oracle]

Erm

The lore is up to you

[cosmic zenith]

Ironically, that isn't mentioned at all

[cosmic zenith]

Wyvern Bestiary has some minor but still important revelations

[split mortar]

[cosmic zenith]

Harpy's Bestiary is more spicy

Though not as important

[untold oracle]

Wait I just realized that last thing is literally a calamari reference

[indigo glade]

Wait...

[split mortar]

Still nice

[indigo glade]

Are Ilmerans demi-humans too?

[cosmic zenith]

Desert Spirit is cool
And that's all I wrote

[split mortar]

Was the image made by Rebecca

[cosmic zenith]

Not necessarily

They're humanoids

[indigo glade]

Hmm....

[spare pier]

No

[split mortar]

What’s a Demi human

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[spare pier]

Calamari is just kinda famous

[indigo glade]

Apparently Harpies are demi-humans, as stated in a WIP of its Calamity bestiary entry

[cosmic zenith]

Demi-humans are basically just races related to humans

[indigo glade]

I see...

[dusk laurel]

So mango might've gotten stuff wrong abt fovos noxus connection???

[split mortar]

I hadn’t heard of it before that rant you did like last night or the day before

Semi intimidating that they pulled attuning to the world soul and the stars and only tied with xeroc

[dusk laurel]

that makes sense

[split mortar]

Though I may just be under a rock idk

[split mortar]

I hope it’s incorrect

[indigo glade]

If Ilmerans aren't demihumans, does that mean they are literally humans, but somehow have fish traits?

[split mortar]

Convergent evolution

[cosmic zenith]

It means they aren't humans or demi-humans

And are further away from the human race

[untold oracle]

They are seahorse typa humanoids

That are sentient

[cosmic zenith]

Nope

[spring helm]

Can they

You know

[indigo glade]

I see...

[spring helm]

Interbreed

[cosmic zenith]

Not all Ilmerians are seahorses

[indigo glade]

Not just seahorses.

[cosmic zenith]

No

[untold oracle]

Sealife

[indigo glade]

See Otonilou and Tyrian being jellyfish and anglerfish respectively.

[spring helm]

Okay 📝

[split mortar]

Illmeran means like any sentient being part of their kingdom?

[spring helm]

So the tribes were different species then?

[split mortar]

Idk

[cosmic zenith]

Ilmeran is a race of beings

Ilmerian is citizenship of Ilmeris

[indigo glade]

Presumably, since they were seperated, and it took two differing Ilmerans to unite all the tribes.

[cosmic zenith]

It's unclear, but probably

Depends on how magical they are as a race

[untold oracle]

How hard was it for immigrants to become citizens

[spring helm]

Yeah what were their immigration and citizenship policies

And economic model

[untold oracle]

This is VERY important

[split mortar]

How long did scal take to evaporate it

[spring helm]

Imagine if they got “frog in boiling water’d”

It took so long they barely noticed until they were about to die

[cosmic zenith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spare pier]

If I had to say, fairly easy

[spring helm]

Room for interpretation

[spare pier]

I mean, I do write Ilmeris somewhat based around Brazil so

[untold oracle]

If you knew how to live underwater sure

[spring helm]

Deltaw for your assignment write a 500 page essay on Ilmeris’ sociology-political structure

[split mortar]

I imagine surviving when not a underwater being was difficult

[spare pier]

Look, Amidias' Blessing is dying next update

[spring helm]

Cheese is Ilmerian that’s crazy

[split mortar]

[spare pier]

But that's still magic that exist in the universe

[untold oracle]

Noted

[spring helm]

Water breathing potions are so easy to make

[untold oracle]

Hmm, maybe

[deft vessel]

Nah just hold your breath

[split mortar]

It dissipates after stubbing your toe so I doubt it would be the most convenient to use but I can see it being usable

[untold oracle]

Do your pre-hm terminus trips while you still can!

[spring helm]

Xeroc watching some guy in platinum armour retrieve the Terminus

[split mortar]

Just make a way to enter from underground

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/broly-im-going-to-brazil-dragon-ball-anime-power-gif-17772580

[wheat walrus]

NOO BROLY!

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1146205659059191890/1170444707252408420/3dgifmaker48062.gif

[cosmic zenith]

I can see why you'd base it off Brazil

Aside from the obvious

[untold bluff]

death

[untold oracle]

What were Ilmeris’ diplomatic relations with Azafure like?

[split mortar]

Scal destroyed Brazil

[untold oracle]

[split mortar]

They traded a lot before yharim happened I think

[indigo glade]

British girl told by atheist to incinerate Brazil.

[split mortar]

Why is scal British

Cause she has a big knife?

[untold oracle]

I think Ilmeris could’ve produced a lot of jewelry

As well as seafood ofc

[split mortar]

Yeah, they also traded safe drinking water iirc

[untold oracle]

Check dokuro’s sbc video

She IS british

Did Ilmeris provide welfare to its citizens?

[cosmic zenith]

Their partnership was pretty economic until they became mortal enemies

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah

That part

[deft vessel]

Do you get banished from ilmeris if you eat fish?

[split mortar]

I imagine not

Humans eat pigs

And cows

[spring helm]

Fish eat other fish

[deft vessel]

But they are like similar fish

[spring helm]

In fact most fish eat other fish

[split mortar]

Land animals eat land animals and it’s fine why would a sea animal have a problem with eating other sea life

[untold oracle]

I think eating regular ass non-sentient fish was perfectly normal

If you ate an ilmerian citizen tho

[split mortar]

I doubt many were sapient

[indigo glade]

Does eating a gorilla make me a cannibal?

[split mortar]

Electric chair

[spring helm]

Okay yeah but then your eating a person not just a fish

[split mortar]

No

[indigo glade]

Then why would an Ilmeran take issue with one eating fish?

[split mortar]

Exactly

[deft vessel]

What does an ilmerisn taste like

[split mortar]

Fish

[untold oracle]

Fishy

[indigo glade]

It is as shrimple as that.

[spring helm]

Perhaps if it was another human species you could make a case but Homo sapiens are the only humans now so we can’t really tell

[deft vessel]

But what fish

[untold oracle]

Do Ilmerians contain mercury and microplastics?

[split mortar]

I don’t think plastic is canon to calamity yet

Do t think it was invented

[spring helm]

Heck the “fish” label is so broad it could include almost all animal life, taxonomically

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggy-jump-bite-rah-gif-16579809368338670257

[untold bluff]

I mean

Draedon has probably made it

Before

[spring helm]

Jellyfish are cnidarians and sharks are chordates

[split mortar]

Why use plastic when hallowed bars

[untold oracle]

What did ilmerians do in their pasttime? (Outside of phasing through walls)

[deft vessel]

Why bar when bar

[spring helm]

I’m not even sure if life has been around long enough for plastic to be made since that needs oil

[split mortar]

What

[cloud ibex]

i'd imagine it'd be like eating primate meat irl

[indigo glade]

Fossils exist in the desert, so life has been around for a while.

[spring helm]

True

[cloud ibex]

technically not cannibalism but in most cultures would be seen as pretty weird

[deft vessel]

Ye

[spare pier]

Bro

They have plasma guns

[untold oracle]

Were there any human right agreements in calamity?

[spring helm]

Wouldn’t they just be

Rights agreements

[untold oracle]

Yeah yeah sentient being agreements

You get the point

[spring helm]

Well if there were they probably got invented because of Yharim

[untold oracle]

Damn… not only does yharim care about the environment, he also wants to raise awareness in the importance of international agreements…

What a hero

[spring helm]

Hey that’s what he was called back in they day (according to Yharim)

[untold oracle]

Lmao

Are pearl shards directly from inside desert scoog?

Since in the sunken sea log draedon says that crystals grow in the insides of some of the sunken sea creatures

[split mortar]

Maybe then

[spring helm]

Draedon’s a liar, he makes them and plants it in the sunken sea to troll people

[split mortar]

He be fabricating a biome at this rate

[untold oracle]

Ilmeris never existed

It’s a story Draedon made

[split mortar]

Amidias crying rn

[untold oracle]

Amidias is a paid actor

[sterile walrus]

What we talking about?

[untold oracle]

Lore

And the economics of Ilmeris

[split mortar]

It’s slightly possible moonlord mpreg canon but don’t bet on it

[tall delta]

draedon bars exist

[sterile walrus]

I dunno what mpreg means but lets go!

[split mortar]

That’s called perennial

[split mortar]

Male pregnancy

[sterile walrus]

Oh

what

.

[untold oracle]

[split mortar]

I don’t want it to be canon and I hope it’s one of the things mango got wrong

[untold oracle]

Do you guys think everyone in calverse can do magic in at least very small amounts

[split mortar]

Ye

It’s in the bones

[tall delta]

Oh about the other thing i was gonna say im pretty sure its wrong so not worth the attentione

lore

[split mortar]

Lore?

[sterile walrus]

So is magic kinda like the force in sw?

[tall delta]

i love lore

[sterile walrus]

everyone has some

[untold oracle]

I’m gonna explain how my char crafts some of the more bizarre weapons with magic lol

[split mortar]

Magic is stored in your bones

[deft vessel]

Lore mentioned?!

[sterile walrus]

Ur kidding right?

[untold oracle]

Yeah

No

[split mortar]

Didn’t cei say it

[tall delta]

is It mentioned ingame

[untold oracle]

Does that mean ppl would have like glowing teeth or smth

[tall delta]

maybe its just cei being funny

[split mortar]

Permafrost freezing the water he drinks cause ice teeth

[untold oracle]

Scal burning the food she’s about to eat

[spare pier]

Cei said that

[split mortar]

I think it’s something they were writing for permafrost that they decided to keep after realising the implications

[tall delta]

I see

[spare pier]

She wrote about how mana tends to concentrate on the densest parts

And she realized that

This implies a person's mana is stored in their bones

[untold oracle]

Does that mean also that mages are a lot weaker if they have broken bones

[spare pier]

Not really

Mana isn't something that you leak

[split mortar]

If anything with stars it seems to be attracted to more mana so why would it

[untold oracle]

Do healing potions taste awful?

That can explain potion sickness

[split mortar]

Maybe it’s like your body rejects the mana like eating too much sugar can make it extremely sickly tasting

[untold oracle]

So are healing potions also made with mana?

[untold oracle]

I’m adding this to my text btw

[spare pier]

It's more that potions are intentionally fucking up your body to accelerate the healing proccess

[split mortar]

Makes sense

[spare pier]

If you drunk too many under a short period you'd probably die

[untold oracle]

I like that

[split mortar]

Instant heart attack

[untold oracle]

Sounds grounded

[spring helm]

Express this in-game

It’ll be funny

[split mortar]

That’s called potion sickness

[spare pier]

I always interpreted Healing Potions as literally just

Massively accelerating your body's self healing proccess

[spring helm]

My Terrarian with 70 potion effects (I need it to fight DoG)

[split mortar]

Do it in gfb and consuming a healing item with potion sickness just insta kills you

[spring helm]

Cancer is waiting at the end of that tunnel

[spare pier]

That's why I have so Calamari can regenerate missing limbs and shit

Because a Healing Potion wouldn't do that

You'd get the stump, not the entire limb back

[spring helm]

Potion seller

I am going into battle

[spare pier]

Also because if healing magic was that strong in Terraria it'd be fucked

[spring helm]

Could just be super expensive or difficult to do

[cloud ibex]

why do you think potion sickness exists

[split mortar]

And time expensive

[spring helm]

“Yeah I can regenerate your arm and leg, but it’s gonna cost ya an arm and a leg.

…metaphorically.”

[split mortar]

But I prefer it not bringing limbs back

[spare pier]

I mean, if the game is anything to go by, chugging a potion would just do that

[untold oracle]

What the fuck is a metaphor

[spare pier]

And making a potion

Isn't hard

[cloud ibex]

if you were able to chug too many healing potions in one go you'd start to regrow limbs you never lost

[spring helm]

We’re just goated like that ain’t no regular NPC doing it

[spare pier]

There is no reason for Healing Potions to be expensive because they aren't hard to make

Well, ok, shit like Super Healing Potions are

But the normal ones aren't

[untold oracle]

Do her regenerative powers replenish over time, or does she have only a finite amount of it that she can ever use?

[split mortar]

Maybe the ones that need fragments or post ml stuff are considered expensive but idk

[spring helm]

Okay well normal healing potions aren’t that good in-game anyway so that tracks

[spare pier]

Replenish over time

The logic is that she kind of stores Silva's energy in her body

And uses it to regenerate if she needs to

Eventually it runs out and takes a while to come back

[untold oracle]

The branding in question

[spring helm]

What regular person is going to pull an Omega Healing Potion out of their ass

[spare pier]

It only ran out in like, four cases tho

Yharon, Exo Mechs, Calamitas and Yharim

Well

And Noxus and Xeroc

So 6

[split mortar]

Xeroc she got cut off from silva

[spare pier]

Yeah, but it was stored in her

So she could still use it while she had it

[split mortar]

How did that work out with noxus, was she time limited against them aswell or did noxus fight on terraria?

[untold oracle]

Are the three battles before Yharim written down anywhere? :3

[spare pier]

Sadly, no

[untold oracle]

Oof

[spring helm]

Rebecca when are we getting Calamari concept art

[untold oracle]

What was the weapon she used against yharim?

[untold oracle]

We already have

[spring helm]

Oh shit really?

[untold oracle]

It was some katana

Uhh lemme find it

#lore-discussion message
here

[split mortar]

Wasn’t it ark

[spare pier]

It's an old concept

Not up to my standards

[split mortar]

That looks like ark

[spare pier]

Though yeah

I meant the fight

The drawing was by my friend

She's fucking BLUE!!

[split mortar]

Isn’t collosals white not blue

[untold oracle]

Was the fight based on new or old lore btw?

[split mortar]

Unless she ain’t a colossal

[untold oracle]

I couldn’t tell exactly lol

[spare pier]

My friends told me Colossal Squid was fucking blue

[spring helm]

Ark of the Cosmos my beloved

[split mortar]

That’s giant

[spare pier]

No

I showed them Colossal Squid

[spring helm]

Why is she blue

Lmao

[spare pier]

They said it was blue

[split mortar]

Oh

[spring helm]

Aren’t they red

[spare pier]

And it was like

All 4 of them saying it was blue

[untold oracle]

It’s blue!

It’s blue!

[indigo glade]

Red, actually.

[split mortar]

This is like a off white or light green

[spare pier]

Either way I think her being blue is pretty so

[spring helm]

Ngl I had more of a splatoon-like image in my head for Calamari

[split mortar]

Fair

[spare pier]

I like the suckers on her arms tho

[spring helm]

That’s just her in her Super Squid Blue form

Had to power up against Ceroc

Xeroc

[spare pier]

Old

[split mortar]

She is goddess of evolution so she may have evolved to look blue

[sleek halo]

how would she adapt to the exo mechs

cause it’s kinda hard to adapt to 4 things

[spare pier]

That's funny because I literally just thought of it

[split mortar]

Adapt to 9000000 giga watts blasted at your face

[sleek halo]

all with different styles of fighting

[spare pier]

I thought of Artemis tho

[untold oracle]

I assumed that too considering Yharim wasn’t acting very new-lorely

[sleek halo]

and weaponry

[spare pier]

Calamari evolved to be undectable by Artemis

[split mortar]

Oh damn

[sleek halo]

How to win

just don’t be spotted

idiot

[spare pier]

I don't think she exactly evolved against the other three, tho

[sleek halo]

Peope always say it’s 3 exo mechs

[spring helm]

No need for evolution when you can just smack the shit out of them

[sleek halo]

when it’s actualy 4..

[sleek halo]

uhhh

thanatos

is not one you can just “smack”

[indigo glade]

4zxs

[spring helm]

Just hit harder

[spare pier]

I'm probably gonna go rewrite Calamari vs Yharim soon tho

[spare pier]

It's funny you say this because it's EXACTLY what she did

Or, well

[split mortar]

Yeah but they aren’t including Artemis due to them being evolved to

[spring helm]

Rebecca you won’t be able to show that to anyone until the mod finishes

[sleek halo]

Well I mean thanatos

doesn’t seem like something you cut through

unless it’s vents are shown

[spare pier]

More exactly she understood that while Thanatos is firing the big laser he got SPECIALLY vulnerable

And Calamari used that to fucking annihilate it

[spring helm]

Hit him with the Big Rip

[split mortar]

Oh rip
Poor Thanatos

[spring helm]

God that concept is so cool and it looks so underwhelming in game

Small line

[spare pier]

Also yeah in my canon Artemis and Apollo don't have shared HP

[sleek halo]

don’t tell me u like

had her split him down the long way

[spare pier]

Yes

I had her do that

[sleek halo]

cuase that’d mean she’d have to

cut through that plates regardless

[untold oracle]

That’d be one hell of a ride

[sleek halo]

making it entirely pointless

because that means she could cut through the armor regardless

LOL

[spare pier]

I mean, the point is that Thanatos has to open the armor to cool down

[sleek halo]

Ok but

the plates don’t disappear

[split mortar]

She can adapt, maybe cutting the weaker part let her adapt to a weakness to cut Tyne idk

[spare pier]

She got a part where it was all open

[sleek halo]

you could cut

[untold oracle]

Adapt..?

[sleek halo]

a plate that spread off

[untold oracle]

Like

[indigo glade]

You could cute.

[split mortar]

She is the goddess of evolution

[sleek halo]

like i imagine the plates lift off slightly

off the body

To vent

[spare pier]

Yeah but there's a very big difference between cutting Thanatos in half

[sleek halo]

and then seal back

[spare pier]

And cutting Thanatos in half

It's just cooler

[sleek halo]

idk I’d split him in the short way

[untold oracle]

Everything she does is so overkill lmao

[spare pier]

Yes, because it's cool as shit

[untold oracle]

Yup

[sleek halo]

i mean rule of cool is awesome

[spare pier]

That's my philosophy of writing finishers

[sleek halo]

but the anatomy of thanatos doesn’t allow that

[spring helm]

No buts Jank

[untold oracle]

Their swords collide, shockwaves can be felt on the other side of the world

[split mortar]

Except for xeroc, she didn’t overkill enough and died for it

[untold oracle]

not the continent, the entire fucking world

[spare pier]

That's still something I'm keeping

[cosmic zenith]

My Yharim and Xeroc fights......

[spare pier]

Or, well

Sky splitting

As always

[split mortar]

What

[sleek halo]

i atill gotta make my yharim & yharon v xeroc

[cosmic zenith]

I'm gonna make my Yharim and Xeroc fights so insane if I can

Some Upper Moon type shit

[untold oracle]

And I’m gonna gonna keep on making that massive text wall

I’m gonna write some jungle exploration stuff

[sleek halo]

for me, yharim bringing yharon to fight xeroc would make sense to me

[gaunt sluice]

woah two lore writers at the same time

[sleek halo]

both hate him, and they work well together

and yharon isn’t vastly weaker than yharim

[untold oracle]

Should I include the plague? That part still very early into the game but would it be lore-wise accurate to have the plague there

[gaunt sluice]

also hello lore chat

[untold oracle]

Halo

[spring helm]

One Piece reference…

I see you

[sleek halo]

reb is one piece

[spring helm]

No way Reb is ||at Laugh Tale||

[split mortar]

Oh damn

[spring helm]

I think you should

I’m terrible at writing fight scenes so they’re always offscreen

[split mortar]

Oh hey goose

[spring helm]

So I just have other characters react to the effects of their battles

[untold oracle]

I’m decentish at them

[hoary berry]

i have a vague desire to write but i'm way too tired to do so

hi melon gun

[untold oracle]

Though I’m afraid they’ll become too dense to follow

Especially with longer ones like provi and yharim

[split mortar]

I shall impart cursed knowledge

Moonlord mpreg has a chance of being canon to calamity

[spring helm]

Like this

[sleek halo]

i’ve always made little stick drawinshs

to lay out kinda

what i want to write

so it stays coherent

[untold oracle]

I wanna draw and include pictures in the text

Too bad I am horrid at it

[sleek halo]

u wont get better

without trying

so do it

[split mortar]

Worst case scenario if you don’t do as good as you want is that you can retry when you’re better

[untold oracle]

Mmm, maybe I’ll try

I have concepts in my head

[gaunt sluice]

As a person who is absolutely horrendous at writing any sort of narrative this is valid

[spring helm]

Real asf that’s why I draw one shot snippets into my Terrarian’s world and not connected chapters

[hoary berry]

i haven't written a play-by-play fight scene in years

i usually end up writing a more vague description, or focus on character's though processes rather than each physical action

[untold oracle]

I’m trying to balance with combat and narrative

So far I’ve had 0 dialogue lmao

[hoary berry]

like, everything in the boss rush from king slime to scal & exos took up only 3 paragraphs in a scene i'm part way through writing currently

because they just weren't at all my focus

[indigo glade]

I would like some feedback for something I have been writing.

[split mortar]

Xeroc may be hunting Noxus in the distortion

[hoary berry]

saying this has just reminded me that i still have all of the dialogue for that scene to write 💀

[split mortar]

may

[hoary berry]

that's gonna be hard

[split mortar]

Good luck

[untold oracle]

Absolutely

[indigo glade]

God/dess of ???

Hildr grew up in ??? with her mother. One evening, when Hildr was a child, she and her mother were discussing futures and dreams. Her mother had mentioned that she used to dream about being a soldier, but due to ???'s laws, was not allowed to train as one. Hildr was immediately fascinated, and wanted to follow her mother's dream. During the day, when Hildr's mother was working, she would often sneak out the house and into the training barracks to watch the soldiers train from afar, and imitate their moves.

The First Goddess of ??? was a warrior named Hildr, who was known for challenging various fighters, gaining a large amount of respect on their continent. One day. they challenged the Dragon of War to a fight to the death. When she won, Hildr coronated herself with the Auric Soul of War, and proclaimed, "Warrior forevermore."

When Hildr died after a confrontation with ??? (Need to decide on who/what), her final words were reportedly "Warrior forevermore." Her body was left to rot, but somehow, no godly essence had permeated through the world after her death.

[split mortar]

Oh ok, I’ll try to give feedback

[indigo glade]

Mainly, the backstory.

[gaunt sluice]

haeh

[indigo glade]

I know there are a lot of "???", but that is because I haven't decided on the names of things.

[manic coral]

names are hard

[split mortar]

I imagine it could be yharim who kills her due to the warrior forever more or dog since there was no essence if you are going with pre existing character having killed her

[split mortar]

Oh hey cei

[untold oracle]

Of course there are a lot of blank spaces, though I think it’s weird that the first paragraph tells about Hildr’s childhood, but she’s introduced again in the second paragraph. It feels like the start of another text

[indigo glade]

Agreed. That is why the name of the character is literally a valkyrie's name.

[untold oracle]

How I choose my character’s names is by going to a name website, getting a random language, and finding a nice enough name

[spare pier]

I just look up "names in X language" and copy it lmao

Or I mesh random shit together

[indigo glade]

Hildr could not fight Yharim, due to living in different eras. And DoG was not their opponent.

[split mortar]

Ah ok

[spare pier]

Otonilou is a random mesh

[hoary berry]

this is so real

[gaunt sluice]

Choosing the god domain is difficult for war

[spare pier]

"Oto" means sound in japanese, "Nilou" refers to the river Nile

[untold oracle]

What are the lore implications of this

[spare pier]

So in a way, Otonilou means "Sound of the Nile"

[indigo glade]

Otonilou is a One Piece and Genshin Impact character.

[spare pier]

FUCK

[empty dew]

There's a universe in which Calamity was translated to or in style of Ancient Russian. Remember that, lore discussion

[spare pier]

I have been caught

[indigo glade]

You can't hide your sins.

[split mortar]

What why the “FUCK”

[spare pier]

(I picked a One Piece character and a Genshin character to make the name)

[untold oracle]

Uhhh can someone rate a part of my text btw

[empty dew]

Time to add that to the Wiki...........

[indigo glade]

"Oto" is actually from the One Piece character "Otohime", who is a mermaid. And "nilou" comes from the Genshin Impact character "Nilou", who is also sea based or something, I don't play Genshin Impact.

[gaunt sluice]

this has become the writing channel

[sleek halo]

i mean…

[cloud ibex]

always was

[empty dew]

Isn't this basically lore?

[sleek halo]

that’s what lore is..

[indigo glade]

Fair point. Second paragraph was written standalone, then decided I needed a backstory, and I never edited afterwards.

[cosmic zenith]

("Nilou" actually comes from the river Nile)

[sleek halo]

it can be both…

[cosmic zenith]

Oh Rebecca said it already

[indigo glade]

It was intended to reference Genshin Impact, and therefore it is, as the kids say, "unbased".

[untold oracle]

One night, while wandering outside, Léa was suddenly ambushed by a massive eyeball, known commonly as an Eye of Cthulhu. She had heard stories of those monsters from her grandpa and how he had slew them back in his day. Upon noticing the eye, she was startled, but instinctively began shooting at it. After shooting hundreds of rounds into the eye and its spawns, the eye burst open, revealing a fleshy mouth with sharp teeth. Léa was disgusted at the sight, but she had expected it to do that at some point. As the eye started rapidly dashing at her, she kept shooting and dodging to her best extent. She came close to death as one of the eye’s fangs cut through her shoulder, really close to her head, but as she ignored the pain and kept shooting, the eye finally fell lifeless on the ground. Léa now had her first experience of a real battle, and she had won to her own surprise.
What do you guys think? :3

[spare pier]

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

Yes, it does

But I stole it from a Genshin character

Called Nilou

[cosmic zenith]

Damn

[indigo glade]

You say eye a lot. You also call it an "eyeball" before revealing its name. You could instead keep the mystery of what it is for one sentence longer by simply using a different word.

[cosmic zenith]

Ozz made Zeratros, and apparently it's a name he already had saved

[split mortar]

Since reference content ain’t canon
Ontonilou not canon
(This is a joke)

[untold oracle]

Aknowledged, I’ll edit it

[wheat walrus]

otonilou*

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262010576295821312/1283409240983081084/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[cosmic zenith]

Vetrasyl is "Vetra" (latvian for "wind" if I'm not mistaken) + "syl" (from Umbrasyl, a black chromatic dragon from Critical Role)

[wheat walrus]

vetro

glass

[gaunt sluice]

hey i know that thing

[split mortar]

Isn’t chrysadia also a mix of two words

[dusk laurel]

chrysos - gold in greek

and arcadia, a region in greece that's associated with wilderness

[wheat walrus]

skibidaddle

[split mortar]

Perish

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-your-friends-close-epic-the-musical-aeolus-wind-go-aeolus-great-wind-god-aeolus-gif-5575701644250284192

[dusk laurel]

why are you like tgis

[split mortar]

It’s what powerscaling does to someone

[wheat walrus]

here's a picture of our mighty and great lord

[devout grotto]

~~I knew there were Genshin players in the writing team ~~

[dusk laurel]

i recognized the nilou part

now my suspicions were confirmed

[devout grotto]

Yeah I was thinking of her too

Ok but the dragon lore sounds very inspired by Genshin's Sovereign lore imo

[spare pier]

It's more by Dark Souls Dragon stuff

[split mortar]

I thought it was dark souls since I heard comments mention it was like dark souls

[devout grotto]

Not gonna be surprised if it was just a coincidence tho

[split mortar]

(Granted it was YouTube comments)

[devout grotto]

I see

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/anji-anji-mito-anji-fish-anji-koi-guilty-gear-gif-5508906931338883460

[gaunt sluice]

wait yall what are all the dragons we have confirmed atm

[indigo glade]

Auric Dragons
Zeratros, Dragon of Primordial Light
Yharon, Dragon of Rebirth
Vetrasyl, Dragon of Storms (Only known via developer statements)
Dragon of Death
Dragon of Life
Dragon of Flame
Dragon of Gluttony

[split mortar]

Death
Life
Rebirth
Primordial light
Storms
Gluttony
Flame

[indigo glade]

Fuck you.

[split mortar]

:(

[hoary berry]

[gaunt sluice]

alr ty

dragon of flame --> torch god

[split mortar]

We don’t know what dragon made blood god

[indigo glade]

Providence.

[split mortar]

it’s providence

[gaunt sluice]

yea

life --> life
death --> sacrifices
logic 100

[devout grotto]

Ok but I kinda wanna know the etymology of the names (besides the more straightforward ones like Permafrost or Calamitas) 🤔

[spring helm]

I fucking knew it

Stip you lied

[split mortar]

Yharim is named after yharnam from bloodborn

[gaunt sluice]

✨ we were kinda just talking about it ✨

[split mortar]

And yharon named after yharim

[gaunt sluice]

well some at least

wait I'm an idiot who can't read

[split mortar]

Dog is apparently named from something with devourer of gods in its name

[indigo glade]

Anahita is a Goddess from another culture.

[indigo glade]

Dark Souls 3 boss.

[split mortar]

Leviathan is self explanatory

Silva?

[cloud ibex]

yharim is named after the city in bloodborne

[spring helm]

Levia, coming from “dog”
Than, coming from the symbol “<“

[split mortar]

Already said that

[indigo glade]

Already discussed.

[warm gull]

hello sigmen and sigwomen and sigenbies

how are you

[cloud ibex]

yea but i didn't see it so it's not real

[cosmic zenith]

I didn't

[split mortar]

Die

[indigo glade]

Refer to me by name.

[spring helm]

I waited to see what you were going to say and this is my reward

[warm gull]

not very polite

[spring helm]

Oh okay then

[cloud ibex]

henceforth you shall be known as BongWater

[split mortar]

Neither are you >:(

[cloud ibex]

wrong

[warm gull]

okay Seeker of Knowledge

[cloud ibex]

[indigo glade]

My name.

Not whatever fake name you said.

[split mortar]

Ok SoK

[warm gull]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-is-the-game-was-rigged-from-the-start-fallout-new-vegas-gif-14316695

[warm gull]

sock from now on is how they will be referred to

hi sock

[split mortar]

:)

[indigo glade]

I'm killing all of you for bullying me.

[spring helm]

[cloud ibex]

square up then

[warm gull]

it's okay sock I was gonna die anyways

[gaunt sluice]

i left for three minutes

[split mortar]

Showerless behaviour there sock

[spring helm]

Alright everyone back to lore

[indigo glade]

???

[indigo glade]

My lore.

[split mortar]

Stinky

[split mortar]

Unused sock gained sentience

[indigo glade]

You're stinky, bitch.

[spring helm]

If Anahita wasn’t a humungous asshole, would you be able to talk to her

[split mortar]

She ain’t sapient

Sadly

[warm gull]

yes she is?

silva was

[indigo glade]

Discuss why Hildr's body had no god essence.

[warm gull]

they're both elementals

[split mortar]

As far as I know solva is there exception

[spring helm]

Ok

[gaunt sluice]

too many calories, had to burn it off

[indigo glade]

Wrong.

[split mortar]

Distortion being ate her corpse
Or her god essence is nigh unrecognisable from natural life with how fighting is already common

[warm gull]

why would silva be the exception

why would she be different

[indigo glade]

Both wrong.

[gaunt sluice]

because she's just better

[warm gull]

she's an elemental like all the others

[split mortar]

I’m pretty sure cei has talked about this before, and said they aren’t all that sapient but then also did devils advocate and asked how could solva do it then

May just be them fucking around though idk

[warm gull]

imma be real with you chief you can't expect people to theorize about something with zero base to work with

[indigo glade]

Sapience isn't the same as intelligence. If performing the ritual only needs understanding of what to do, then its possible for Silva to do it.

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggy-jump-bite-rah-gif-16579809368338670257

[spring helm]

Hildr whole life was embraced with battle. A warrior, not born but raised.
As one who consumed the Auric Soul of War, her soul could only be placated in battle, a Warrior forevermore.
As she died in battle, her divine soul was satiated, leaving, passing on peacefully in its entirety, leaving no essence behind.

[warm gull]

sapience is necessarily intelligence what

[spring helm]

How’d I do?

[indigo glade]

I know. I don't care. I just want others to have fun trying to think of what I'm thinking of.

[spare pier]

It's a form of intelligence

Sapience is intelligence, but intelligence is not sapience

[split mortar]

Oh lik how all the other god soul/essence didn’t want to pass and so did a polter but them being satisfied with their death they could properly pass on?

[spare pier]

Crows are intelligent, but they aren't sapient

[spring helm]

Maybe the Dragon of Life was severely injured and dying because of reasons and wanted to pass on their soul to someone.
So they picked the Elemental of Nature as their successor.

[warm gull]

how do you know

[spring helm]

Yeah

[indigo glade]

I would say it is almost the opposite. She isn't satisfied. Not until she becomes the strongest.

[spare pier]

Because we say crows are intelligent :p

[warm gull]

how do you know they aren't sapient

[split mortar]

Does that mean 3 year olds aren’t sapient

[gaunt sluice]

yes

they're not too intelligent either tbh

[spring helm]

Then she didn’t die and her godly soul moved to its next vessel, travelling from one warrior to the next until it could claim a body that could be called The Strongest

[indigo glade]

: )

Closer.

[spring helm]

Not yet there?
Hm…

[warm gull]

auric souls can't move like that

[indigo glade]

Much, much closer, in fact.

[indigo glade]

Good thing it isn't an auric soul.

[gaunt sluice]

✨ who cares ✨

[warm gull]

auric souls actually can move between hosts but godly ones can't

[split mortar]

Is her soul the reason your player character OC is built different

[warm gull]

uhh if we're supposed to theorize about something it has to be based in the actual mechanics of the world the theory is being built in...

[spring helm]

Was it the vessel part I was wrong with?
Did Hildr ascend past the need to have a body and continued fighting as a “ghost”, like how some demigods shed away their mortal bodies to become full gods?

[warm gull]

godly souls dissapate immediately upon death

[spring helm]

I was thinking of Heracles at the end here

[split mortar]

Evidently something is up so not following the lore to a T is fine with theories

[indigo glade]

Why would she be the "First" of the god, if she is the only one?

[hoary berry]

the latter bit is pretty much exactly what one of my OCs does come to think of it

[warm gull]

what is the point of theorizing with no groundwork

you can say

[spring helm]

Reincarnation then?

[warm gull]

literally anything

[split mortar]

I never said to completely disregard everything where did you get that

[warm gull]

well if the lore rules for souls aren't being followed

there is no longer any rules to use for prediction

so it's just

guessing

[indigo glade]

No. Hildr is unable to come back in physical form. She is unable to control another body ever again.

[dusk laurel]

Did we get more lore drops

or nog

[indigo glade]

No.

[gaunt sluice]

not yet

[indigo glade]

Only to not take statements in Cosmatic Mango's stream at face value.

[spring helm]

What if I do though

[hoary berry]

1233popcorn

[indigo glade]

I will explode your living quarters.

[split mortar]

Just the ones from mango which some are wrong (hopefully the one where moonlord made Noxus is)

I think xeroc hunting Noxus is canon from one of the writers reactions to it

[dusk laurel]

noice

wonder if he is in the disortion

[split mortar]

I mean, the mahngo leak did specifify they were in there

[dusk laurel]

that would mean xeroc wondering npc

[split mortar]

More so a random event of hide the fuck away from the walking apocalypse

[warm gull]

melon gun calling out whenever I say something that hasn't been stated in lore discussion

[dusk laurel]

?

[spring helm]

And the one hiding is also a walking apocalypse

[dusk laurel]

what happened

[split mortar]

Wha

[dusk laurel]

oh, i can't read

[split mortar]

Neither can I

And I don’t know still what they in about

[dusk laurel]

the idea fovos made noxus out of spite is funny to me

[spring helm]

Guys I don’t know how to end the Anahita chapter

[dusk laurel]

even when it's not canon (probably)

[spring helm]

They’re just on the beach now

[split mortar]

Have her dry up

[hoary berry]

fishing

[spring helm]

Nah we friends now, power of beating the shit out of each other

[split mortar]

I hope out of the ones that’s not canon the fovos made Noxus one is one of them

[spring helm]

Not yet Goose, the second fishing chapter is with Calamitas

[hoary berry]

why not have more

[warm gull]

before I knew everything I had a theory that noxus was fovos's offspring and that he laid the distortion (fucked up eldritch deity egg) near terraria so that the offspring could feed on it like a parasitic wasp or smth

[spring helm]

I’m dragging her ass back to the Brimstone Crags

[hoary berry]

fishing is a wellspring of endless possibilities

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[spring helm]

Well my creativity isn’t so I gotta keep them in reserve

[hoary berry]

[spring helm]

Yes

[split mortar]

Didn’t know you had a theory like that

[spring helm]

Wait is this the moon lord mpreg you guys were talking about

I thought you were just trolling

[split mortar]

Yeah there’s a chance moonlord made noxus somehow

From mango leaks

(I hope it’s not canon)

[spring helm]

Goose don’t add that to the doc I actually can’t defend it

[split mortar]

I have said it to them aswell

[dusk laurel]

we will beat you with hammers

:3

[hoary berry]

you say that as if you can defend the others to any notable success

[warm gull]

no it isn't I didn't know anything about that

my theory does not associate with that

wtf

[spring helm]

Idk I just saw the phrase pop up while I was scrolling through the channel

[hoary berry]

but i won't add it to the doc i'm frankly still flabbergasted myself

[spring helm]

Send one screenshot of mine and I guarantee I can defend it

[split mortar]

Up a bit there was lore drops from someone who watches mango, moonlord making noxus was one of the possible things

[dusk laurel]

about what?

[spring helm]

Otherwise I’ll write a silva chapter

[hoary berry]

found this note in a doc and like
wow past me, this is so useful and informative thanks so much, i definitely remember the hidden message in this sentence now

[dusk laurel]

you are so epicsauce

[spring helm]

Lmao what is that

[hoary berry]

apparently i was feeling sleepy on august 26th

despite it being half past five

and so my brain came up with that

[spring helm]

That’s so real
I write the stupidest shit when I’m sleepy

Earlier today I was tired asf but had to write down my notes. I fell asleep halfway and I guess I kept writing for a bit because my fucking paragraph about genetics ended with
“kill Archer”
And yes the A was capitalized

[warm gull]

cosmatic mango is so based for leaking stuff to the general public during streams

[dusk laurel]

💀

[hoary berry]

explain to me the virtues of those messages please

[warm gull]

amazing

[split mortar]

.

[warm gull]

oh kettle

that person

kettle

[spring helm]

Okay so the first one is about Draedon’s rewards when you beat his exo mechs. He gives you the blueprints for his forge but I thought it would be funny to include the “you may smack it once” donkey kong meme

[dusk laurel]

but it'd be so funny tho

[split mortar]

Yeah? They were saying what they remember from mango

[dusk laurel]

i know...

[spring helm]

The second one is a method I cooked up to convince Draedon to turn of the nanovirus

[warm gull]

fovos did NOT create noxus btw

just saying

[dusk laurel]

yes

[hoary berry]

that's certainly an explanation
but i'd hardly call it a defence

[split mortar]

Am I on there?

In the doc

[hoary berry]

maybe

[spring helm]

Wdym you’d hardly call it a defence, that would pass in court

[dusk laurel]

whar.

[spring helm]

Oh I remember that

[split mortar]

I hope so

[spring helm]

Someone in chat was talking about their heart problem

[warm gull]

as a reward for collecting my 8 pages, I will let you smack it once

[dusk laurel]

what.

[hoary berry]

i wish discord stickers could have this aspect ratio
because i'd definitely blur out the name and pfp and turn this message into one

[warm gull]

it's gonna be me having it

right now

[hoary berry]

[spring helm]

I’m not sure that’s the correct reaction

[dusk laurel]

[hoary berry]

it was my attempt at conveying "no don't have that get better" but using a calmitas emoji

unfortunately i have only a limited selection of those

[gaunt sluice]

need more calamitas emojis

[hoary berry]

[dusk laurel]

[spring helm]

This should be an emoji

[dusk laurel]

wide creature

[hoary berry]

[spring helm]

Hell yeah

Caloro

[dusk laurel]

colorado

[hoary berry]

wtf is an america

[warm gull]

me

[gaunt sluice]

hell

[warm gull]

🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅

I'm an american who doesn't hate my country actually

[gaunt sluice]

america is a synonym for hell

[dusk laurel]

uhhh

[gaunt sluice]

how is this possible

[dusk laurel]

i spilled water

[hoary berry]

the plague one was the third message to ever make it into the doc

[dusk laurel]

sorry

the water clicked on the gifs tab somehow

i will never live up to this embarrassment

[hoary berry]

the water was on a mission

[split mortar]

What did the water do

[hoary berry]

post two odd gifs

[split mortar]

Oh

[hoary berry]

one was someone doing an awkward dab

another was not to be spoken of

[dusk laurel]

we don't speak of this

[empty dew]

What's up with so large spaces?

[hoary berry]

they are for silly emphasis

[split mortar]

I have been wondering the exact same thing

[gaunt sluice]

just a lot of spaces

[dusk laurel]

y

[empty dew]

o k a y , s u r e, w h a t e v e r

[warm gull]

I just don't hate it or see anything productive about saying it sucks

I'm not like, conservative or anything

[gaunt sluice]

I mean yeah its not productive

[cloud ibex]

the excessive spacing is like excessive capitalization

just a quirky way to add emphasis

[gaunt sluice]

g o o f y

[split mortar]

like this?

Adds more emphasis

Aswell

[dusk laurel]

calamity

[split mortar]

gay people

[dusk laurel]

✅

[hoary berry]

me!

[gaunt sluice]

capitalism

[split mortar]

I thought you were bi

[split mortar]

Ew

[hoary berry]

well i'm only half lying if i say im gay

[gaunt sluice]

bi is under the gay umbrella

[empty dew]

Gay??? UMBRELLA???????
Oh, you've summoned me

[dusk laurel]

you have 170 seconds left to live.

[split mortar]

Gay is homo men or just homo

Queer is the umbrella term iirc

[dusk laurel]

quirky

[empty dew]

Yes, please, thank you.

[gaunt sluice]

I mean people just say gay anyway

[hoary berry]

i've just realised how much i hate the word squirm

[split mortar]

There is two bisexual British people here

We will grow and overthrow fabsol eventually

[dusk laurel]

you left me with no other choice, i'm making you immortal.

[warm gull]

fabsol is british...?

my condolences

get well soon

[split mortar]

Wha

Didn’t know that

[dusk laurel]

what's wrong with being british

i only see issue in speaking french

[split mortar]

As a Brit idk

[empty dew]

I Love You Verne Troyer

[spare pier]

Fab isn't british

[gaunt sluice]

rebecca coming in with the dev lore

[warm gull]

I got this from this message

[empty dew]

Fab is... American, I think?

[spring helm]

Fab comes from a galaxy far far away

[split mortar]

I’m the other biesexual British person

[warm gull]

no I mean I assumed because you specified 2 bisexual british people and then specifically mentioned fabsol

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[dusk laurel]

i had 2 incidents in lore discussion...

i'm gonna exile myself now

[split mortar]

Those being?

[dusk laurel]

not telling you :3

[hoary berry]

the infamous water spillage?

[split mortar]

No, you shall be shackled to lore chat and face your embarrassment

[split mortar]

What’s the other

[dusk laurel]

that's one

the other was a while back

[warm gull]

mr sigman

[dusk laurel]

when i lurked

[tall delta]

yharim secretly loves money

[warm gull]

omg kettle attack

[dusk laurel]

it was simply too high for yharim

(he was poor)

[warm gull]

spent all his money on gold armor

[split mortar]

The punishment was lava

[dusk laurel]

it all seems to add up...

the lung cancer.

even the tacos.

[warm gull]

yharim white

[split mortar]

The tax haven the distortion

[warm gull]

this is why the devs won't reveal his name

[split mortar]

Fabsol we’re on your secrets

[dusk laurel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/778729281097564180/1152078823966376058/caption.gif

peak cinema, absolute kino

[warm gull]

the wrath of the gods

[split mortar]

There’s infernum,Armageddon and calamity

Anything else in reference?

[gaunt sluice]

hunt of the old god

[dusk laurel]

catalyst

bard class

prepare to die

grave of light

[frosty shale]

"malice", "revengeance", "iron heart"

[split mortar]

Iron heart was something?

[dusk laurel]

it was a mode

[split mortar]

Oh

[dusk laurel]

hk reference iirc

[split mortar]

That’s steel soul

[dusk laurel]

welp

[gaunt sluice]

close enough

[dusk laurel]

i forgot a lot of hk okay?

haven't played in 3 years

[split mortar]

That’s a sign you need to play again

[split mortar]

I think I haven’t played for longer?

[dusk laurel]

cool

[split mortar]

Either way hollowknight goated

[spring helm]

Iron heart

Like a heart made of iron?

Hearts of Iron?

[dusk laurel]

your heart is cold.

must return to slime.

[split mortar]

What is this

[spring helm]

Slimelamitas

[split mortar]

Yo slimelamitas returns

[spring helm]

so true oomfie

[random mulch]

woman

[void chasm]

what happened to the calamity lore doc

oh nvm its in the pins

clicked on a link from reddit and it didnt work

[split mortar]

Reddit is cringe that’s why it didn’t work

[frosty shale]

iron heart was "no life regen"

[split mortar]

Oh damn

[gaunt sluice]

dang

[frosty shale]

in earlier versions it was also permadeath but only if you died to a bossfight

removed in 1.5.1

[tall delta]

i wouldnt call them leaks

[cloud ibex]

iron heart was hardcore but only for boss fights and then no life regen and then gone

[dusk laurel]

poof.

[frosty shale]

it gave you a cool custom hit noise though

[gaunt sluice]

do potions still work

[lusty grove]

I remember when iron heart was the boss permadeath

[tall delta]

since im pretty sure mango posted on twitter(?) saying "watch my streams i draw and tell some more calamity lore"

[frosty shale]

calamity difficulties used to be super unhinged ngl

[tall delta]

like the first streams btw

[split mortar]

Death did just tell you to be ready to die yeah

[frosty shale]

there was an old version where defiled rune made everything take 2x less damage and cut your HP in half

and if scal hit you ten times, you died instantly

[dusk laurel]

"prepare to cry" - rev

"prepare to die" - death

[split mortar]

And didn’t deactivating rev and death call you a weakling or something?

[dusk laurel]

iirc

[gaunt sluice]

✨ soul damage ✨

[split mortar]

Wasn’t that just death mode

[frosty shale]

all modes

10 in death mode

easier modes let you take more hits

[split mortar]

Ye

[frosty shale]

PTC and PTD were old difficulties that predated rev and death, they were activated with demon trophy and celestial onion

they didn't do much except statbloat

[spring helm]

So rude man
I am a weakling but it didn’t have to call me out like that

[lusty grove]

Im glad those were changed or removed ngl

[frosty shale]

then, when rev and death came out, demon trophy became a perma spawn rate increase (long since removed) and celestial onion became what it is now