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dusk laurel
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avatar of emptiness

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no more wotg noxus

sinful adder
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BLOOD GOD IS KOOL AID MAN

dusk laurel
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i endorse this theory

gaunt sluice
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giving me vibes of it makes you stronger, but you bleed into the cup, but as part of the pact the Blood God retains some of it, therefore when you run out of blood you frickin perish.

indigo glade
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Hm?

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Boss Despawn message for Calamitas Clone.

indigo glade
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"The clone spits a bit of blood in disappointment and vanishes."

fierce pagoda
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You punched her so hard her teeth cut her lips

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Owchie

indigo glade
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"The brutish shark looks elsewhere to turn its aggression."
Also Old Duke really is just a grumpy boomer.

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Oh wait no, that is Mauler

dusk laurel
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no more shark im afraid

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oh

sinful adder
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reminds me of a horror story about kool aid man I read once where it was a genetically modified human deformed into a giant vat of nutrient rich blood and kept in a tank, they eventually tried to kill it because it became sentient but it survived and broke through the wall of the incinerator, its bones and skin melted into glass, kept alive by the nutrient fluid, with a gurgling scream of "oh yeah!"

fierce pagoda
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Who came up with that theory!?

sinful adder
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it was a horror fanfic someone wrote a long time ago

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I can't remember the source

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I think it was partially drawn as a comic maybe

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might have been on reddit?

indigo glade
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"<PlayerName>'s soul burned to cursed soot."
Brimstone Flames can attack the soul directly.

dusk laurel
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so thats why scal gets hurt by it

sinful adder
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checks out with what we know about the stuff

fierce pagoda
dusk laurel
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she literally is going insane cuz of it

hot valve
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Iirc brimstone flames tooltip is ‘attacking body and mind’

sinful adder
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idea: calamitas is an attempt to fuse the soul of a human to an elemental, similar to a god ritual

hot valve
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So it checks out

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I wonder which debuff is probably the worst to feel

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Worst*

fierce pagoda
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Idea: calamitascalcalcalcalcalcal callcalamitaamcal

sinful adder
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plague, maybe?

gaunt sluice
sinful adder
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or sulphuric acid poisoning

sinful adder
indigo glade
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"<PlayerName> imploded into nothingness."
"<PlayerName>'s body slipped into oblivion."
"<PlayerName> ceased being a part of our universe."
What?

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Just what exactly do Godslayer Flames do?

gaunt sluice
hot valve
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Like I think miracle blight is genuinely too quick and effective that it’s mostly painless

dusk laurel
sinful adder
indigo glade
hot valve
dusk laurel
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yeag

hot valve
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Hotter than holy flames

indigo glade
gaunt sluice
hot valve
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Tool tip of god slayer inferno is ‘your flesh is burning off’

sinful adder
gaunt sluice
sinful adder
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it would do that in the process

sinful adder
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godslayer inferno death mesasges

indigo glade
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"<PlayerName> was devastated by uncontrollable, hateful magic."
"<PlayerName> was ruined by peerless witchcraft."
"<PlayerName>'s soul crumbled from the scorn and contempt."
Vulnerability Hex.

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Pretty much tells us all about Calamitas.

fierce pagoda
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She a hater fr

indigo glade
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I'm most intrigued by the "peerless witchcraft" line.

fierce pagoda
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On hood

indigo glade
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Would fall in line with the theory that Calamitas took Brimstone Elemental's powers with witchcraft.

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"<PlayerName> became the blood god's sacrifice."
Corpus Avertor is apparently linked to Blood God, but it also mentions sacrifice.

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Weird how connected the Blood God and Ravager are.

fierce pagoda
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Didnt ravager have 2 auric souls

gaunt sluice
gaunt sluice
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Yeah

sinful adder
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and the process resulted in their death

wheat walrus
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would leviathan from ferraria calamity mod be a leviathan in monster hunter

gaunt sluice
sinful adder
fierce pagoda
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Balls

indigo glade
# sinful adder I don't think calamitas did this directly, I think her parents did it to her

That would be weird. Her parents aren't mentioned at all, and in Catastrophe's entry, it mentions that he was the one putting food on the table, implying that they didn't have any parents that took care of them. And you can't say that they did it to Calamitas at a young age, since Draedon could not detect someone in Azafure with that level of magic for the longest of times.

dusk laurel
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maybe she was kidnapped and was fused with brimmy's powers

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by anti-yharim forces

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and then brimmy awakened because she just lost most of her powers

gaunt sluice
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That would be weird

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I think draedon might be able to have figured that out too

dusk laurel
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true

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but it is mentioned that brimmy's reawakening might have been a plot

gaunt sluice
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Where was that?

pliant ruin
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Guys i think you all mgiht

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be

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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overcomplicating it hdflr

sinful adder
gaunt sluice
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peerless means unequaled

hot valve
sinful adder
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Whatever the case, we know calamitas has basically all of brimmy's power, as she is stronger than every god except Xeroc, and she did not take this power herself

pliant ruin
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Like i do think we'll get a better explanation for cal ''stealing" brims powers
but i don't think we'll get entirely new plots that have 0 allusion to in current writing regarding anti-yharim forces or her parents to explain them

gaunt sluice
pliant ruin
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Yeah given

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Anahita, Sandy and Cloud are all early hardmode, with Sandy and Cloud being less "concentrated" so they're weaker

dusk laurel
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anahita is mid-hardmode

pliant ruin
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I don't think it's impossible

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But i also don't think it's guaranteed

sinful adder
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Let me put it this way

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Calamitas's power is on par with Silva

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This is suspicious

gaunt sluice
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okay

indigo glade
dusk laurel
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die.

pliant ruin
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Well we're not entirely sure of that yet but yeah calamitas is really strong, almost unnaturaly so

glad reef
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do not

pliant ruin
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But

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do keep in mind

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she trained with permafrost

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so its

sinful adder
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Her power also awakened at the same time as the brimstone elemental. I believe she had the power the whole time but wasn't able to use it because the elemental was dormant

dusk laurel
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scal also didn't just beat up brimmy

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they were equal

pliant ruin
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not like she had all this power from the beggining

gaunt sluice
dusk laurel
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so brimmy probably wasn't THAT strong

sinful adder
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I think she then became the brimstone elemental, the main incarnation of it

pliant ruin
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I don't

indigo glade
indigo glade
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Personally, I think Calamitas' power is extremely concentrated.

sinful adder
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Since brimmy has brimlings, lesser incarnations of the same being, I think that calamitas might be an artificially created incarnation of the brimstone elemental, sapping nearly all of its power and causing the original to become a lesser incarnation like a brimling

pliant ruin
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x_x

dusk laurel
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ehh

pliant ruin
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i mean fine as a headcanon i suppose but this is

dusk laurel
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not sure about that

sinful adder
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I don't think she did this deliberately, I think something was done to her soul at a young age, or perhaps inherited as is mentioned once, to cause this

pliant ruin
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smth with

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basically no basis

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like this is entering Crack Theory territory if it were to be treated like an actual theory

sinful adder
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It is the only explanation I can think of that makes sense

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Other ones miss details

indigo glade
# pliant ruin basically no basis

It is worse than no basis. It actively contradicts the currently known lore.

"My surveillance over Azafure never signaled anyone who lived there having such power, and a mere child certainly could not hide it."

sinful adder
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I do not suggest that this is the definitely right interpretation, however I do suggest that it is the only interpretation I can think of that doesn't omit a detail mentioned somewhere

indigo glade
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Draedon is essentially saying, as soon as Calamitas got her powers, he would've known immediately.

pliant ruin
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The entire point of Cal is that she's just a Person

dusk laurel
pliant ruin
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And personally

wheat walrus
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what if scal just absorbed brimmy's power in some way

sinful adder
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That's because she didn't have it. The power was dormant and unusable, but she gained it when the brimstone elemental stopped being dormant.

pliant ruin
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I think making it so that she got her powers from some sort of inheritance rather than
She willingly tried to get power to protect her family but ended up unable to control it and killed them

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is

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significantly less tragic and interestign

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narratively

wheat walrus
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would go hard

sinful adder
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I'm saying she was primed to have the powers upon the elemental's reawakening without actually having them the whole time

dusk laurel
sinful adder
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I do not believe she could have obtained the power herself. She would not know how.

gaunt sluice
pliant ruin
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That's the thing

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she didn't think that far ahead

sinful adder
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Her magical ability was no better than an ordinary human

pliant ruin
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and it's why she lost control

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and killed her family

gaunt sluice
sinful adder
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If this was something anyone could do, other people would have done it to the other elementals

pliant ruin
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Counterpoint:

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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We are missing way too many actual elements to be able to form a solid theory on How she did it and i am going purely based off the actual meta view of what would make a Cool Story

spare pier
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I'd argue that the Exo Mechs are also unnaturaly strong HDfailure

sinful adder
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No, with any of them. Her control over magic is emotion based rather than skill based, just like an elemental

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Reb, is my theory sensible given the known information?

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That her power was dormant but she had it somehow, so maybe she is part elemental?

gaunt sluice
sinful adder
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Yes?

pliant ruin
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Again

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we are missing

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too much

gaunt sluice
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valid

pliant ruin
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to be able to make an Actual Theory

sinful adder
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I don't want a yes or no answer whether it's right, I just want to know if it's a reasonable theory

wheat walrus
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doubt it is but idk

pliant ruin
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sinful adder
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Of course, but every other theory I have seen omits something

indigo glade
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I believe Rebecca can't say, because it would spoil too much that is planned for too far into the future (Brimstone Crags update)

dusk laurel
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these are just conspiracies

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
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biter

wheat walrus
dusk laurel
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the muncher

gaunt sluice
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yall what we need to do

gaunt sluice
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is put everything we know about cal in one place

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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I mean

sinful adder
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Things we know:
Her power was inherited in some way.
She could not have had the magic skill to gain this power herself.
Her powers are directly tied to the brimstone elemental.
She did not have this power until the moment the brimstone elemental fully awakened.

indigo glade
pliant ruin
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gobul and nibelsnarf exists

real silo
dusk laurel
pliant ruin
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so yeah probably

wheat walrus
wheat walrus
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makes more sense than a piscine wyvern

real silo
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💥

pliant ruin
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two pieces

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three pieces

gaunt sluice
pliant ruin
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four pieces. ...........

indigo glade
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Zero Whole.

wheat walrus
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the fifth piece

real silo
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heybecca

spare pier
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Heyaxia

wheat walrus
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heyrediscussion

real silo
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did they piece it together yet

sinful adder
# real silo Just like an elemental?

In fantasy settings, elementals are beings with innate magical ability that embodies an aspect of the world, and wield this magic as an extension of themselves instead as a skilled or disciplined mastery over an external force the way wizards do.

wheat walrus
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lorrendous discussions

spare pier
sinful adder
spare pier
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SECOND POINT

indigo glade
spare pier
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I MEANT SECOND POINT

pliant ruin
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You started off poorly already by generalizing Fantasy Settings as all following the same rules

indigo glade
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Then, no.

real silo
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Stupecca

indigo glade
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There is no evidence for that, as far as I can remember.

sinful adder
pliant ruin
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Yeah but why does that matter

wheat walrus
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roffly

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like

pliant ruin
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They're different settings made by different people

spare pier
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Why does the DnD definition of an Elemental matters?

real silo
spare pier
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We aren't talking about DnD hdflr

pliant ruin
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The entire point of making a fantasy setting is that it's fantasy

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i can do whtaever i want with it

wheat walrus
indigo glade
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We barely have a definition for Elementals aside from [Insert joke about Jujutsu Kaisen here!].

pliant ruin
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i will kill

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withh ammer

pliant ruin
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BIG! hammr

indigo glade
wheat walrus
dusk laurel
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happi

indigo glade
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You make me sad.

wheat walrus
# wheat walrus

time to destroy entire regions and environment with my mere presence

sinful adder
# spare pier I would like to know where you took the first point from, though

For the second point: it is shown that she cannot easily control her power, and that she gained it without knowledge over magic any better than an ordinary person, as is shown from Draedon dialoge. It also seems extremely strange that there could ever be a situation where an ordinary person could become massively more powerful than all but the strongest gods by taking or mimicing an elemental's power and have this not happen at other points in history with other elementals.

pliant ruin
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i read that as

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entire religions

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😭

wheat walrus
sinful adder
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That is why I believe that point to be true

pliant ruin
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alatreon..............

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destroyer of christianity.....................

wheat walrus
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Alatreon in-universe is worshipped as a being that even the gods fear

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so it makes sense

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quick translation on the thing :3

warm gull
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my name is hammeruser45

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hi omni

wheat walrus
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hi daiquiri

warm gull
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I'm gonna use my hammer

dusk laurel
warm gull
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on you

warm gull
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having an eye on a hammer is so incredibly unnecessary it just causes discomfort for the hammer

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take it from me, hammeruser45

wheat walrus
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jut noticed

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that's the safi hammer

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with the silly eye

fierce pagoda
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Its the eye of the roadman

pliant ruin
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hammeruser45

royal solar
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Which gods DoG consumed?

gaunt sluice
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yes

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i dont know

wheat walrus
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we dunno

royal solar
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Getfixedboi DoG drop suggests that he had consumed Torch God (he drops many different torches in gfb) and in infernum DoG eats Providence but both are non canon.

cosmic zenith
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He did kill Gods, but there aren't any confirmed kills

hoary cape
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It's a good thing that he started eating them we don't need another wall of flesh incident

frozen zodiac
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so like a carnivorous animal waiting for something to die to run and eat it first?

cosmic zenith
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More like "oh, they just killed a God rn, free food"

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There's also the fact that the essence would fester if he didn't eat it, which is a problem

hoary cape
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Essence festering is what created the evil biomes and hallowed iirc

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Maybe just the evil biomes I can't remember if the hallow is in the world somewhere or if it's just the essence being released from the god essence prison when you kill it

frozen zodiac
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isnt the hallow not elaborated upon by yharim because it would paint him in a bad image because its sourced from benevolent gods

hoary cape
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Probably

sinful adder
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yes. It was also locked in the WoF

spring helm
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DoG is Ussop confirmed

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Tells lies

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Lies become real later

untold oracle
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Hello lore chat

fierce pagoda
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Hello! 🪤

untold oracle
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💣

fierce pagoda
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🐊 💥

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Is Dreadon publicizing most of his work so that society can make use of them? what does Dreadon do with his research, he can't just NOT publishing them anywhere

warm gull
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I mean, he can

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though he did share much of his work and certainly his weapons technology with his allies in the yharmy

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I imagine that diffused a bit to the rest of society under yharim's rule and eventually to other places

sinful adder
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YHARMY

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that's hilarious

cloud ibex
tropic oak
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awh, Draedon joined and was removed from Yharim's army on the same day :(

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i never noticed that

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poooooooor ass kicking robot

dusk laurel
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thats...

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wrong

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draedon was in the army for like a century

tropic oak
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same day

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i didnt say same year

dusk laurel
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oh

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thats kinda funny then

mighty zenith
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divorced on their anniversary PensiveCore

dusk laurel
tropic oak
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does this seem correct

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back to my fancy lore doc and just updating some stuff

untold oracle
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Coool

spring helm
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Hello fancy lore doc maker

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Seems correct

untold oracle
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Why doesn’t provi escape the terrarian?

sleek halo
pliant ruin
untold oracle
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I hope it’s not ”you have profaned core”

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That’s not even canon is it?

solar wharf
indigo glade
pliant ruin
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but yea

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technically

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if you want the terrarian could use their Terrarian Glurp Technique that specifically prevents Providence from Escaping

solar wharf
pliant ruin
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I don't think she escaped by sprinting

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Like from what yharim said she just

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poofed

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disappeared

solar wharf
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oh

pliant ruin
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shows up

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kills everyone

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disappears

solar wharf
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you sure she just... didnt fly up

untold oracle
solar wharf
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they either pull up to fuck you up, or you go up to them to fuck them up

untold oracle
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I think it might be because she sees you as a major threat, not like Yharim who wants to kill every god, but kinda in a competitor way

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Like your influence is surpassing hers

pliant ruin
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I mean even then if i was being beaten to death and close ot dying and Could just Poof away i'd still leave lmao

untold oracle
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Yeah

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Maybe she wants a fair fight clueless

pliant ruin
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i don't think there is any excuse for her just Not Leaving that could reasonably apply i can think of

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I think she most likely had some factor that made it so she literally couldn't leave

solar wharf
pliant ruin
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Even if she was cocky i think when you realize Oh right i'm Fucking Dying then you probably would try escaping

solar wharf
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but ye i dont see why she didnt do it before that

mighty zenith
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the terrizzian was too powerful for her to handle

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im very sleep deprived

untold oracle
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Hi garbo

solar wharf
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give garbo an aureus plushy so he can sleep in peace

mighty zenith
sleek halo
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too heavily damaged to just

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teleport

untold oracle
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Maybe she had given some of her powers to the guardians, and losing them causes her to lose some of her power, including the teleportation?

frozen zodiac
split mortar
proven rivet
split mortar
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What will we lore about for now?

indigo glade
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You can turn slimes into factories.

split mortar
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Oh damn, how

untold oracle
indigo glade
# split mortar Oh damn, how

"Slimes enchanted by the Archmage, as a host to crystallize the frozen power of the tundra into a magical metal. He cast a spell to hide away most of his creations and research soon after leaving the Godseeker’s side, well aware that Yharim may attempt to exploit his previous work."

untold oracle
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how the HELL do you type that

indigo glade
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Lihzahrds.

split mortar
untold oracle
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Idk I saw ppl talking about lihzahrds having connections to ravager in cat

split mortar
split mortar
indigo glade
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I want to create something original but I don't know what of...

split mortar
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Uhhh, your interpretation of noxus idk

spring helm
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Purposefully making goozma by putting auric ore in thousands of slimes, then conglomerating them into one.

indigo glade
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Anyone have the WIP Unamoured DoG sprite

real silo
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erm ackshually auric ore doesn't have autic souls

spring helm
real silo
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not to be confused with autistic souls

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Banger

split mortar
indigo glade
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Thank you.

spring helm
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A GOD NEEDS HIS ARMOUR

split mortar
indigo glade
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Fecto Forgo.

spring helm
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One Piece

indigo glade
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No.

spring helm
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Boowomp

split mortar
dusk laurel
stark basalt
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did yharim ever say "i fear whoever would call these toys" when talking about the mechanical bosses in the old lore

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i remember him saying it but i read the old lore again on the wayback machine and i couldnt find it

scenic olive
split mortar
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👍

mighty zenith
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the body is not finished but yea

indigo glade
indigo glade
stark basalt
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werent they still tools for mining and shit in the old lore tho

indigo glade
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Destroyer was.

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"A machine brought to life by the mighty souls of warriors, and built to excavate massive tunnels in planets to gather resources.
Could have proven useful if Draedon didn't have an obsession with turning everything into a tool of destruction."

split mortar
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Yharim was like, hyper cringe versal or whatever I would not be surprised rando machine is solarsystem level

indigo glade
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The Twins were pretty much giant CCTV cameras.

stark basalt
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Calamity: pickaxe 🤓 calsad
Terraria: SPINE OF MEGAZORD CUTHULU 👽

indigo glade
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And there is literally no information on Skeletron Prime.

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Yharim just said "I'm dissapointed."

split mortar
spare pier
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Is there anywhere I can read the old Lore Items?

stark basalt
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use the wayback machine with the fandom link for the wiki

spare pier
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Jesus Christ

stark basalt
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and i think they archived the old versions of calamity on github

indigo glade
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Here's the Hardmode one.

stark basalt
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wiki.gg saves old changes from fandom?

indigo glade
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Actually wait.

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They aren't seperated.

spare pier
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The EoC Lore Item............

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THE CRABULON LORE ITEM

indigo glade
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Crazy.

indigo glade
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Crazy.

mighty zenith
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an eye... and now a brain... insane....

spring helm
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Man those are so bare bones

spare pier
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The Corruption and The Crimson ones are cool, I will say that

spring helm
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Bro’s actually just saying whatever comes to mind

spare pier
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It'd be cool if the Corruption had ANY ELABORATION WHATSOEVER hdflr

indigo glade
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Fun fact: Fecto Elfilis' theme is called "Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit"

mighty zenith
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its actually crazy how nothing these were

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compare yharon's old entry to his current one

indigo glade
spring helm
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“What do you have to say about the Eye of Cthulhu?”

“It’s interesting how that eye watched you more intensely as you grew stronger.”

“Ok?”

spare pier
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Ok no sorry

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The Hive Mind is just

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Sad

indigo glade
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Anyways, I will now bestow the title "Fermi Paradox" onto Moon Lord

indigo glade
spare pier
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Describes what it is
"Yeah this accomplishes nothing"

mighty zenith
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calclone got literally nothing

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like
literally

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there is NOTHING on calclone

spare pier
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Queen Bee is on the better end tbh

indigo glade
spare pier
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At least it foreshadows PBG

mighty zenith
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somehow plantera is both fucking stupid and pretty good

indigo glade
spare pier
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Skeletron had some potential, I will give it that

mighty zenith
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"well done you killed a plant"
"actually the plant is filled with souls of travellers that descended to the jungle"

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damn ok bro

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skelly suffered from the "never elaborate on anything" curse of old lore

indigo glade
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It really seems like demons were meant to be something important, but because there was no demon boss, nothing ever happened

spring helm
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Racist Yharim

indigo glade
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No, I think he is saying they

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Literally turned into demons.

mighty zenith
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it's still probably racist

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cause uhh something something old lore yharim being a dickhead asshole

indigo glade
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Also, Aureus used to be a cyborg??

split mortar
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Wait wha how’d I miss that

mighty zenith
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oh yeah

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i cant remember if that was just an excuse as to why it got infected

spare pier
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I love how Slime God's only point was

mighty zenith
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or if they just forgot what cyborg means

spare pier
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"It could get really big"

random mulch
split mortar
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And yet would somehow be nigh unstoppable to the likes of yharim or scal

mighty zenith
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the "you wouldnt want me at my fullest potential" curse

split mortar
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Was there ever lore for empress or queen slime in old lore or were they just ignored

mighty zenith
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i mentioned these two for different characters and yet both of them fit for provi

spare pier
#

Counting the number of things you are fighting that are not at full power

#

So far there are two already HDfailure

split mortar
#

Providence grows in power in the sun and we stop her doing that so three

spare pier
#

Ok I kinda like this, if it wasn't for one thing

#

The fuck you mean the souls of human eyes?????

mighty zenith
#

didnt you know?

indigo glade
#

Each body part has a soul.

sudden ruin
#

eyeballs are little people

mighty zenith
#

there are countless of little organisms on your body

#

they all have souls

indigo glade
mighty zenith
spare pier
#

This either implies
1 - Eyes have souls apparently?
2 - Demon Eyes are actually human eyes, somehow

#

I can see where this was going

sudden ruin
#

maybe replace souls with essence 😼

indigo glade
#

What if they meant to say "extracted through human eyes" instead of "from".

spare pier
#

It could've been cool

#

However

indigo glade
#

Doesn't make that much more sense, but still.

spare pier
#

Curse of Never Elaborating

#

Number 3

mighty zenith
#

ehh does that count?

indigo glade
mighty zenith
#

i dont think anahita was an elemental in old lore

split mortar
spare pier
#

She was

indigo glade
mighty zenith
#

wait she was?

split mortar
#

I think

mighty zenith
#

how did that even fly by

indigo glade
#

Anahita was Anahita for a very long time.

#

You have to remember that.

mighty zenith
#

was anahita just

weaker than brimmy

#

despite being later in progression and noticably stronger??

spare pier
#

It seems to just be a case of

#

Brimmy is not at full power

#

Which, I mean makes sense

#

She was curbstomped by Cal

mighty zenith
#

its so strangely worded though

spare pier
#

It is!

indigo glade
#

Anahita is nearly as old as Siren was.

spare pier
#

Number 4

spare pier
#

Ok sorry this just

#

Hurts me

indigo glade
#

"I am truly dissapointed" -YharYhar.

split mortar
#

Is that not just insulting vanilla

#

Basically

spare pier
#

YES

#

IT IS

mighty zenith
spare pier
#

IT'S JUST

#

"Lmao this is meant to be terror?"

#

OK, IMAGINE SKELETRON PRIME IN REAL LIFE

indigo glade
#

I would be fucking scared of a 15 foot metallic skull flying as fast as a car.

glacial rampart
#

its only not scary in the context of terraria and its visuals

mighty zenith
#

gigantic fucking skull with four arms with weapons of mass destruction attached to each one

indigo glade
#

How big is a Terraria pixel again?

split mortar
#

A block is 2 foot

mighty zenith
#

prime is like 7 blocks tall?

spare pier
#

IMAGINE THERE IS A GIANT MACHINE FLYING ABOVE YOUR HOUSE SAWING THROUGH YOUR WALLS, PICKING YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS WITH A VICE STRONG ENOUGH TO DECAPITATE THEM, BURNING YOUR NEIGHBORS WITH LASER SHOTS AND BOMBING YOUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD

split mortar
#

Yeah

#

Old lore not that great

glacial rampart
#

yharim is not phased

mighty zenith
indigo glade
mighty zenith
#

considering he compliments pbg on being the exact same thing basically later

glacial rampart
spare pier
#

AND THAT'S REALLY FUNNY BECAUSE PRIME IS AS MINDLESS DESTRUCTION AS IT GETS hdflr

#

Anyways

split mortar
#

(Wasn’t half of the lore also in the wiki and not in game)

spare pier
glacial rampart
#

have we already gone over how crabulons is literally just "a crab and a mushroom. A love story."

spare pier
#

Yes

#

I'm going through all of them

glacial rampart
#

yeah thats definitely the worst one though HDfailure

#

ic

indigo glade
#

In this channel.

spare pier
#

As much as everyone jokes about Plantera

split mortar
#

Oh damn

mighty zenith
# spare pier

genuinely
contender for the most useless old lore item

indigo glade
#

That, from what I've heard, was barely active.

glacial rampart
spare pier
#

Ok no this one is actually pretty good

spare pier
glacial rampart
#

ah

spare pier
mighty zenith
#

the start though

#

it's so out of place with the rest of it

split mortar
#

Yeah

pliant ruin
#

Congratulations. You killed a plant.

mighty zenith
#

it makes it seem like plantera was just a joke when the rest of the item says the exact opposite

split mortar
#

Imagine beating cal clone and yharim is like “good job, you killed a failure”

spare pier
#

My main problem is that
1 - Yharim never discredits a Boss like this except for this one time
2 - It comes off more as just discrediting the player for their win

indigo glade
#

Which is just... off putting.

spare pier
#

Ok first of all

#

Why explain the Astral Infection in Aureus?

#

Second of all

#

Why repeat the same thing you did with Hive Mind?

#

Third of all

#

Cyborg...?

indigo glade
#

Cyborg.

split mortar
#

Cyborg

mighty zenith
#

well didn't you know? geldon was controlling aureus the entire time

#

(that still wouldnt make it a cyborg but shhhh)

indigo glade
#

It is like a cyborg in which it is part robot but no part biological, and wait actually it is all robot and fuck.

spare pier
#

Golem, PBG and Duke are all cool so nothing to say there

mighty zenith
#

i feel like they just didnt realize what cyborg meant

hoary cape
#

Aureus well known cyborg

indigo glade
#

I do have something to say about Golem.

mighty zenith
#

like in DBZ dubs where they call the very clearly cyborgs "androids"

spare pier
indigo glade
spare pier
#

This definitely meant something

#

As weird as it is

mighty zenith
#

i have no idea what though

#

so just saying

split mortar
spare pier
#

Yeah, Mrrp was the main writer

split mortar
#

Oh damn

mighty zenith
#

might just be another victim of the "never elaborate" curse

spare pier
#

It is, probably

#

I like this

#

If only the ending wasn't just grossly tacked on and there weren't three elipses HDfailure

hoary cape
#

Lunatic cultist moment

mighty zenith
#

what's even the point of the elipses

split mortar
#

Bit weird lunatic cultist could stop yharim but yeah

mighty zenith
#

they add nothing except the last one

indigo glade
hoary cape
#

Suspense

indigo glade
spare pier
#

Ok actually this is the best one

mighty zenith
#

there was a blood moon entry in old lore?

spare pier
#

Fair enough

mighty zenith
#

i actually completely forgot

spare pier
#

Dropped by killing Cultist during a Blood Moon

hoary cape
#

Didn't you get it by beating the cultists lol

spare pier
#

(Yeah, it's weird)

mighty zenith
indigo glade
spare pier
#

But like, this is the best one

#

By far

mighty zenith
#

yeah its pretty great

spare pier
#

Because it just drops that, yes

mighty zenith
#

the implied connection to cultist is awesome

indigo glade
spare pier
#

Cultist got a revelation or some shit during a Blood Moon

#

Yeah

#

It's cool

split mortar
#

Gotta love lunatic cultist getting the best jackpot of insanity from the bloodmoon and gaining powers

indigo glade
#

Which is certainly a nice way to take them.

split mortar
#

Yeah

#

Bit weird but can work

spare pier
#

Ok seriously why just

#

Not explain the Astral Infection in this item

hoary cape
#

Oh my goodness it's moon lord irl in this discord channel

spare pier
#

Instead of in Aureus?

#

This item is literally just describing the Astral Infection

indigo glade
mighty zenith
#

i definitely never saw it before

spare pier
#

Number 5

hoary cape
#

Old lore is funny

mighty zenith
#

old lore yharim fans explaining how this absolute fucking moron became so strong and feared

spare pier
#

(Deus was kinda cool in Old Lore)

indigo glade
#

Number 6 is extremely close

spare pier
#

Number 6

split mortar
#

Why didn’t dog properly eat the worm

indigo glade
#

(Literally the next one)

spare pier
#

Yeah this is another one that rubs me off as just mean-spirited

indigo glade
split mortar
dusk laurel
#

once a fraud, always a fraud

spare pier
#

I think DoG's direction in Old Lore was kinda cool but it ultimately took it too far

#

DoG wasn't just a fraud, he was outright pathetic

mighty zenith
#

and yet, for some reason

#

he was still strong enough to be the third/fourth last boss

hoary cape
#

Dog when he tries to convince you he is the devourer of gods when he only ate one god and didn't even finish eating it

split mortar
#

Wasn’t dog outright starved for food despite being that strong?

spring helm
#

Biter of a God

spare pier
indigo glade
#

It was literally just half eating Deus, and a reason to fridge Braelor and Statis out of the story.

hoary cape
#

Nibbler of gods

#

The god he tried to eat was like a light year across

mighty zenith
hoary cape
#

It was a nibble

indigo glade
spare pier
#

Guardians and Folly are cool so

hoary cape
#

"I am the nibbler of a singular god fear me"

spare pier
#

And number 7

#

Ok can you please explain to me her origins and goals, then? hdflr

indigo glade
#

"A simple origin and a simple goal"

#

Bitch, you didn't explain shit.

split mortar
hoary cape
#

Who is that even referring to

split mortar
hoary cape
#

At least it's not angels and demons

spring helm
#

yeah just never mention that in-game please only learn if you ask the devs

spare pier
#

This could have been so fucking good

#

If you replaced "devoted to consuming others" to

#

"Devoted to slaughtering me"

#

Bam, best Lore Item in the game

mighty zenith
#

ah, the old duke one

#

"oh hey there was another one, cool"

#

thats all you get

latent bolt
spare pier
#

Number 8

mighty zenith
#

oh yeah he did have that ability

#

too bad it amounted to absolutely fucking nothing

#

because he didnt do shit

spare pier
#

And then Yharon, Exos and Calamitas are nothingburgers

mighty zenith
#

they made worm kirby and did nothing with it

spare pier
#

Thank you, Yharim, I definitely didn't get they were the magnum opus of the guy I summoned with the Codebreaker

indigo glade
#

I am so confused.

#

I am trying to get old lore Bestiary entries but for some reason they are going to new lore stuff.

spare pier
#

Old Lore Bestiary had nothing in it so

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

mighty zenith
#

oh god i forgot, draedon's backstory was never in-game

#

i thought it was in the lore item but no

spare pier
#

AEW mentioned the Golden Age of Dragons and that was it

mighty zenith
#

how much of the lore was ACTUALLY in-game

#

like 20%?

indigo glade
#

Not much

spare pier
#

By all means, barely any

mighty zenith
#

with the rest being locked behind random discord messages

spare pier
#

Draedon Logs was about all of it

indigo glade
#

Daedalus' entire story never existed in game.

mighty zenith
#

iirc statis and braelor were never mentioned either

indigo glade
#

Same with Braelor and Statis I believe.

mighty zenith
#

silva too i think

#

and xeroc

#

and noxus

#

and

indigo glade
#

God Slayer army too

mighty zenith
#

actually i think noxus gets like one single line alluded to it

spare pier
#

Yeah

#

In the Aureus item

mighty zenith
#

and its not even clear, most people would assume it means deus

#

fucking awesome dude

spare pier
#

I mean, being real here I get the thought proccess

glad reef
#

wait why the aureus item?

mighty zenith
spare pier
#

The Lore Items are pretty flawed and not a good way of telling the story

mighty zenith
#

the infection was explained in aureus' item for some reason

indigo glade
mighty zenith
#

instead of the item called ASTRAL INFECTION

indigo glade
#

I don't know what this means and I'm pretty sure it is the reason why it keeps going to new lore entries.

scenic olive
spare pier
scenic olive
untold bluff
#

Hey I have a fan theory

scenic olive
#

Imagine if Yharim has dementia and forgot who the terrarian is

spare pier
untold bluff
#

So you know how when a an auric essence is expelled from a dragon and absorbed by someone, that auric soul is no longer able to be harvested? Maybe when gods are killed, the traces of godly essence left from them get absorbed by the world and slowly reform the world soul

#

An infinite cycle of life and death under the primordial light

pliant ruin
#

auric essence

#

wuh

spring helm
#

horrifying implications considering the evil biomes

pliant ruin
#

did i miss smth

#

since when is auric essence being expelled from a dragon a thing

glacial rampart
#

never

#

😭

untold bluff
#

I meant godly

#

Guh

pliant ruin
#

but dragons dont have godly essence

split mortar
#

They’re talking about the god ascension ritual

#

Just worded weirdly

pliant ruin
#

even then i dont understand

indigo glade
#

I am not certain if this was the Bestiary before From the Ashes, but I have no other way of finding out what it used to be with my limited knowledge of wiki usage.

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/index.php?title=Bestiary&diff=prev&oldid=159633

Calamity Mod Wiki

The Bestiary is an in-game catalog of Terraria's various entities, including enemies, NPCs, critters, and bosses. It can be viewed by desktop opening the inventory and pressing ⚒ Use / Attack on the book icon located to the right of the item trash can, at the bottom right of the inventory. The Bestiary displays a description and basic statistic...

pliant ruin
#

once u absorb a soul thats kind of just it

#

is the idea meant to b like

#

once a god dies

#

the figments of the world soul in their soul return to it?

#

cuz i can see that yeah

#

i mean

#

i dont think it'd be a thing given

indigo glade
#

Crazy bestiary entry.

split mortar
#

World soul fragments make auric souls

Auric souls get absorbed into god essence

God essence eventually decomposition or something back into world soul fragments

pliant ruin
#

tht by itself is kind of ok but like

#

evil biomes n stuff

indigo glade
split mortar
#

I think that’s the loop they’re talking about

pliant ruin
#

dosen't seem like it's returning to the world soul

split mortar
#

Yeah

untold bluff
#

It's more interesting than "once it's gone it's gone forever"

devout grotto
#

👀‼️

untold bluff
#

Because then there would be so many questions

devout grotto
#

Ooooh, taking note of that

untold bluff
#

Like how was the world created, or how was the world soul shattered

#

Or what will happen to the world once all of that essence is gone

devout grotto
#

Oooo feelsgreat

untold bluff
#

So making it an ad infinitum cycle would fix that

#

👌

indigo glade
#

Fix... what exactly?

gaunt sluice
#

good morning lorers

untold bluff
#

The amount of gaps there are right now in the lore

indigo glade
gaunt sluice
untold bluff
#

Nothing so far has explained the creation of the world soul, how everything began, or how everything ends

indigo glade
untold bluff
#

I KEEP SAYING WHAT THEY ARE

warm gull
#

bideo bames

indigo glade
#

Your "explanation" is a cycle.

untold bluff
gaunt sluice
#

I just mean does there need to be a reason for the world soul

spare pier
#

^

untold bluff
spare pier
#

Much like we don't understand certain concepts about our world, the same can be applied to Terraria. Some things just have no logical explanations, really

gaunt sluice
spare pier
#

I get what you're doing and I won't stop you, far from that

#

But saying those are "holes" makes it feel like it HAS to be explained

glacial rampart
#

and explaining every single thing is how you end up with a bloated world

indigo glade
#

I do not understand why an explanation needs to be a cycle. If godly essence could turn back to the World Soul as you claim, then Xeroc's sacrifice meant nothing, because in reality, it wouldn't be permanent.

proven rivet
spare pier
#

That's a lot of them HDfailure

#

Be more specific

proven rivet
deft vessel
#

This might be Late but here is my oc kingdom

So there was this kingdom that had made a packt with Noxus to gather godly essence for him. This packt also made them favorable to Yharim.
This packt was mostly possible due to the reality anomaly located in their capital. The anomaly was like a crack between our world and the distortion.
But after some time Noxus felt like he had no need for their help so he disappered. This pack was a huge deal for the kingdom so their newly crowned king ( The Terrarian) went into his mind to seek Noxus back. Due to his absence he gained the title of ”the sleeping king”. During this search the king could obviously not rule so a regent was installed.
But this regent hates Yharim so their relations soured. But without Noxuses help the kingdom was quite a liability to Yharim. So he ordered its destruction.
During the destruction the king finally found Noxus and resparked co-operation. Not wanting to lose his new pawn Noxus quikly guided the king out of the dying realm.
After this the king(Nexus). Went into hiding. Then the crusade ended and the king came out of hiding and the game finally begins.

spare pier
#

Then spoil it

#

As in

#

||A||

indigo glade
#

Spoiler tags

deft vessel
#

Good that i remembered it all

proven rivet
empty dew
devout grotto
#

I've kinda mentioned it before but all my nations are based on irl cultures that are referenced in vanilla in various ways, whether it'a NPC names, food items, vanity items or blocks

warm gull
devout grotto
#

The most developed one I have rn is called Rivazzura, which is an Italy-inspired region

gaunt sluice
devout grotto
#

It's the anti-Yharim nation I mentioned (but not named) before

deft vessel
#

I usually get a cool idea and base my realm on them

warm gull
#

when I'm worldbuilding I try to explain as much as possible because leaving something utterly unexplained (even in-universe theories are enough) isn't very fulfulling to me

devout grotto
#

I've always planned it to be not only a staunchly anti-Yharim nation, but to also be a huge ally of Ilmeris

indigo glade
proven rivet
#

One of my favorite lore related things in the mod is to think about a possible scenario if Fovos wasn't stopped

warm gull
proven rivet
empty dew
spare pier
#

I wanted to HDfailure

mighty zenith
spare pier
#

Main reason was more just

deft vessel
#

This might be for a different thing but i also tought of the mole kingdom. That is like these shady mole people that make scam contracts to allow people to mine ores

indigo glade
pliant ruin
#

DID SOMEONE SAY LESB

#

sprry

mighty zenith
indigo glade
spare pier
#

I have never seen an all-female cast outside of shows directly targeted at girls

#

Like Sailor Moon

empty dew
#

Is there a group of gays?

indigo glade
spare pier
#

So I wanted to make a group of characters in Cal that was just

#

All women

indigo glade
#

Yharim and Draedon.

pliant ruin
#

the onyx kinsmen is now All Gay

#

all 300 of them

#

(the number 300 is made up. i just made it up right now.)

spring helm
#

300 spartans

#

all gay

#

sounds about right

empty dew
mighty zenith
#

yharim's crusade is an allegory for lgbtphobic people

proven rivet
devout grotto
deft vessel
#

#savethebees

indigo glade
empty dew
#

#MakeQueenBeeReal

pliant ruin
devout grotto
#

Yeah that's what I thought too

pliant ruin
#

Both because i doubt the incineration killed all of them and also bc i feel like even if the majority lived in the sunken sea surely a entire species of people wouldn't be restricted to only 1 civilization

devout grotto
#

Yep

gaunt sluice
#

which dragon did the god of the sea come from

mighty zenith
#

dragon of water or something

warm gull
#

calamity is going woke smh

mighty zenith
#

(its not public)

warm gull
#

retracting my patreon

gaunt sluice
#

frickin saltwater soup dragon

deft vessel
warm gull
#

dragon of anahita

empty dew
mighty zenith
#

:3

empty dew
proven rivet
empty dew
#

Don't make me do it

devout grotto
pliant ruin
#

earth elemental is Earth Elemental gender

split mortar
#

Earth elemental is fake gender

#

Due to being fake elemental

dusk laurel
#

shame

devout grotto
#

I also have a Japan-inspired nation which is the pro-Yharim nation I mentioned but not named before :O

#

I still have yet to find a good name for it though

warm gull
#

earth elemental identifies as igneous

gaunt sluice
devout grotto
#

I also gotta consider Statis and the Onyx Kinsmen though

devout grotto
devout grotto
#

Now that I think of it, the Onyx Kinsmen kinda fit with what I've planned for that nation, which has something to do with precious stones (especially pearls)

#

(The name of the group at least)

devout grotto
#

But yeah, enough worldbuilding yap from me rn jagshdgd

deft vessel
indigo glade
#

Making my own civilisation sounds... interesting...

devout grotto
gaunt sluice
dusk laurel
pliant ruin
#

i have a few civilizations i need to develop further in my story project

split mortar
gaunt sluice
indigo glade
warm gull
#

🙏

devout grotto
#

So true!!!!!!!!

warm gull
#

(geopolitics nerd is me)

pliant ruin
#

the only one i got a solid grasp one is the Highly Patriotic Military Junkyard Garbage Civilization

gaunt sluice
pliant ruin
#

I like that i needed to say both Junkyard and Garbage to get the point accross

#

Kind of like the US but like

#

more garbage

#

like literal garbage

gaunt sluice
#

how is that possible

mighty zenith
#

plumg

indigo glade
pliant ruin
#

The entire setting of my story is a cyberpunk dystopia so you get that right lmao

gaunt sluice
pliant ruin
#

yep

#

its legit

glacial rampart
#

plastic beach

pliant ruin
#

basically that

#

though actually

#

i think its not cyberpunk

#

given it has magic

#

its smtheles

#

i remember hearing abt it

#

its like

#

aetherpunk or smth

#

mixing magic + technology basically

gaunt sluice
charred prism
#

Magitech?

warm gull
#

I'm making brazil shittier in my world to compensate

pliant ruin
#

well can you deny that the us is highly patriotic and militaristic .................

gaunt sluice
#

yes

#

it is exactly that

warm gull
#

I'm literally liberty prime

gaunt sluice
spare pier
gaunt sluice
spare pier
#

Yeah

gaunt sluice
#

Is Cal a cat person

spare pier
#

Yes

gaunt sluice
#

Lets goooo

indigo glade
#

You couldn't tell?

gaunt sluice
#

its canon now

gaunt sluice
warm gull
#

walter green

gaunt sluice
pliant ruin
gaunt sluice
#

someone needs to make that meme with cal

split mortar
#

Who is cal, the cat or the human

gaunt sluice
#

the human I would assume

warm gull
#

if voodoo dolls can just be made then why doesn't the terrarian just make a yharim voodoo doll

#

putting this here as well from cmt

pliant ruin
#

terraria calamity speedrun

#

goes to snow biome

#

goes to evil biome

#

makes yharim voodoo doll

#

toss it on a lava puddle

#

gg

gaunt sluice
#

yharim the jungle tyrant has been defeated

#

the world is extremely confuised

frozen zodiac
#

i mean, how much would that truly change i think he's just watching us atop the dragon's aerie he already did everything he set out to do

split mortar
#

He explicitly didn’t do everything he wanted to

frozen zodiac
#

welp

pliant ruin
#

He is actively still trying to do everything he wants to do

frozen zodiac
#

if we killed him in a day with a voodoo doll we still havent done anything to rebuild the world

pliant ruin
#

yeah but the evil guy is dead

indigo glade
frozen zodiac
#

yeah evil guy dead but my house is still burnt to the ground

indigo glade
#

Now we need to make a voodoo doll of Yharon.

split mortar
indigo glade
#

There are other ways to kill a person via voodoo doll.

#

Like drowning.

#

Or just, general suffocation.

pliant ruin
#

throw him in honey

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he'll drown

split mortar
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Honey heals though, wouldn’t that just make yharon feel pain but not die

pliant ruin
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i think it'd be the opposite

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it'd soothe his external wounds but he'd ultimately drown

split mortar
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I guess was thinking too much in game logic there

trim edge
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yharim's honey addiction spread to yharon and he just drinks all the honey

warm gull
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I mean in terraria you drown in honey faster than you heal

split mortar
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Fair

fierce pagoda
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you can drink water to heal while your drowning

warm gull
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it goes down the other pipe, duh

magic epoch
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you can drink an inferno potion while in lava

warm gull
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you can drink any potions while in lava actually

eager bluff
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you can drink lava

digital kestrel