lore-discussion

[untold oracle]

If that’s the case, why didn’t she just blow up the world at her peak? Did she just get greedy and try to get even more powerful, only for it to go downhill

[pliant ruin]

the suicide thing being literal i can see it

like if a follower dies she

[indigo glade]

Where does it say Providence's followers are gone? They're still out there, making shrines, as evidenced with the Profaned Energy bestiary entry.

[pliant ruin]

absorbs their power

also yeah that

providence has

alot of influence

arguably

the only character we fight who is still a major threat on a large scale due to her having an active following

[split mortar]

Yeah she has a lot of followers if “weak willed people” I think they’re called

[true hatch]

Yharim killed a fuckton of people. And he specifically hunted down God-Worshippers, so it's likely that a very large number of them are dead

The fact that the Crusades ended relatively recently likely means they didn't replenish much before we showed up and got to stabbing

[untold oracle]

Bunch of depressed nihilists ig

[pliant ruin]

Like the profaned enemies

are her followers

[untold oracle]

Probably increased as the war raged on

[pliant ruin]

And they're evidently

still active

[untold oracle]

Since people got terminal ptsd

[split mortar]

And evidently very fucking strong

[pliant ruin]

if anything i agree with that

as the war raged on

more people would turn into depression and misery

leading to potentailly

more provi cultists

[true hatch]

Providence's followers are like, a special breed of Nihilism though. It's not just "I want to kill myself" it's "If everything dies then nothing can suffer"

[split mortar]

how much of provis power is in the guardians for her to be fine with a fight to the death would you all think?

[true hatch]

Nihilistic God vs the Indomitable power of the human will to push on:

[split mortar]

Yeah, and a world wide war could prob bring people to that

[split mortar]

That’s why we win

[true hatch]

That and the giant scissor swords in my back pocket

[pliant ruin]

kill la die !

die the die

kill the kill? die the kill

[cloud ibex]

Nihilist mfs when a guy with a propellor beanie holding a lollipop walks into the room

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/hikikomori-anime-neet-hikineet-gif-9340904

i love kill la kill

so glad calamity has a reference to it instea of DUMB shitlike uh

idk lmao

minecraft. yeah. i HATE minecraft,

[split mortar]

Don’t think it has a reference to craftmine

[sleek halo]

i’d like minecraft if the devs were actually allowed to do stuf…

[pliant ruin]

Atleast they cooked with 1.21

but its unfortunate

[sleek halo]

Ppl wonder why the april fools updates have so much effort put into them

[true hatch]

Ark of the Elements/Cosmos are very cool and I like them.

Nigh-immortal scissor wielding maniac vs god(s)

[sleek halo]

because it’s the one time the devs can actually be free

[pliant ruin]

me when devs can code a literal grappling hook to the game but microsofts goes

nuh uh

[sleek halo]

to do silly shit

and actually code

and then the devs get blamed

for it

“mojang devs when they have to work” bro they’d be overjoyed

[split mortar]

Like imagine what would happen with 1-2 major updates where Microsoft doesn’t dick kick the devs

[sleek halo]

Optimization

I want an optimization update

por favor

[split mortar]

Yeah

[untold oracle]

No!!!

[true hatch]

"It's not in the spirit of the game"

Meanwhile Relogic adding the Terra Toilet because they thought it would be funny:

[pliant ruin]

i think minecraft is

simultaneously

[scenic olive]

haha green toilet go brr

[untold oracle]

Let’s keep making java optimization garbage so that players move to the real minecraft!

[pliant ruin]

incredibly overrated and incredibly overhated

[split mortar]

Terrarias spirit is “that would be fun and funny”

[cloud ibex]

Tbf adding a toilet is very simple

But to not be fair, just look at the shimmer

[sleek halo]

yeah…

my most hated thing

is ppl comparing mods to the actual game

One you have entire free control of

[untold oracle]

Agreed, modded is fire tho

[true hatch]

Mach 12 Lance Instakills:

[sleek halo]

the other is tightly controlled

with little to no freedom on the devs part

[cloud ibex]

To my knowledge liquid code is one of the primordial evils of terraria code, even to the vanilla devs, and they still decided to add the shimmer as a fourth liquid type just because

[pliant ruin]

people who say ''mod devs are better than mojang devs lmao!!" are gonna go in the eel pit

[sleek halo]

there’s a reason during mob votes they make one of the mobs so mucb better

[split mortar]

I don’t think minecraft is overrated since it does have the like oerfect formula for its popularity

But Microsoft is dropping the ball a lot

[sleek halo]

because they have to do the stupid ass votes

[split mortar]

Some mojang devs were mod devs iirc

[untold oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-pizza-devour-gif-25512719

[sleek halo]

but they want to have one mob added

[pliant ruin]

yteah the mob vote is so obviously a decision from mojang for engagement

[solar wharf]

minecraft is mid at best, you need mods for it to be good

[pliant ruin]

disagree

i think minecraft is decent

and it can be better with mods but not always

some mods honestly make it Worse

[deft vessel]

It has a lot of potential

[sleek halo]

yeah

[split mortar]

Yeah Minecraft has a fuck ton of potential

[solar wharf]

minecraft is decent for first experience, after that it heavily depends if you are a creative builder or not, if not it becomes stale

[untold oracle]

Don’t use them then

[sleek halo]

And then we chose shit like phantoms

a blaze miniboss

[pliant ruin]

Never said i used them

[split mortar]

Or if you have friends

[untold oracle]

1.12 modded is very good imo

[sleek halo]

and a monster

and we chose

fucking

phantoms

[solar wharf]

friends dont save it for long, survival and pvp become stale quickly

building is the only consistent long term fun we found in mc

[deft vessel]

Tbh it feels like minecraft is more of an engine than a game

[indigo glade]

Fun fact, Mojang tried to buy part of Optifine's code (since it is closed source, for some reason) but the owner of Optifine declined.

[cloud ibex]

In phantoms’ defense are you sure the other ones wouldn’t also have been implemented in an annoying way

[split mortar]

I think the recent trial chambers update is pretty good imo

[pliant ruin]

See the reason i think people overhate minecraft is because they dont treat it like minecraft and treat it like terraria
"beating the ender dragon" isnt the "progression" of the game its just a thing you can do
its like. stardew valley. you can farm, fight monsters, fish, talk with townsfolk, etc.

but people

tunnel vision

into the community's perception of ''progression"

[indigo glade]

Great Hunger would've been a silly little guy.

[sleek halo]

Thank god…

[indigo glade]

And also be a more interesting way to implement the Grindstone mechanic.

[untold oracle]

this!

[pliant ruin]

Minecraft is fun when you just

[sleek halo]

Optifine is straight trash

[pliant ruin]

do random silly shit you feel like doing

rather than like. I must kill the Dragon

[untold oracle]

”Ehrm, updates are useless because they don’t help me kill the ender dragon”

[split mortar]

I much preferre terraria cause it is much more structured to have goals like killing moonlord then minecraft

[deft vessel]

I would like a buildings update

[indigo glade]

JetStarfish video moment.

[pliant ruin]

that is fair

it ultimately personal preference

[solar wharf]

thats what i meant, minecraft is not for progression or competition at all, its both easy and has little to no progress, you either mod it to become progressive or you build and become creative, thats why the longest running series are usually build projects lol

[split mortar]

I do wonder what crack they were drinking when they made bedrock wither not the Java one

[untold oracle]

They wanna fuck around with the 5 y/o fanbase that bedrock has

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[pliant ruin]

the funniest part

[untold oracle]

Again?

[deft vessel]

Because minecraft is such a explorable world but like has nothing to explore if you get what i mean

[pliant ruin]

is absolutely the ''useless'' item incidents

[indigo glade]

"Let's give the harder boss to the playerbase that is using worse controls. I see nothing wrong with this."

[pliant ruin]

people love calling

literally anything

that isn't directly helpful to this community perception of "progression" useless

[indigo glade]

Pickaxes are useless, they have no right click fuctionality.

[pliant ruin]

axes are useless

gettign wood dosent help me beat the ender dragon

btw

if fishing rods were added in modenr minecraft people would complain and say theyrea stupid useless addition

[mighty zenith]

its the equivalent of ppl saying there's nothing to do in terraria outside of bosses

[pliant ruin]

YEAH

ITS

EXACTLY THAT

[split mortar]

Yeah, lot of those items (spyglass is one I think of) are pretty good

[pliant ruin]

honestly

this made me

wanna play minecraft

vanilla

again

i should do that

[deft vessel]

Then do it

[mighty zenith]

i havent played vanilla in a while because i always drop it after getting diamonds

[pliant ruin]

when i drop it its usually either just eventual burnout or

[deft vessel]

I personally just don’t like the mine part of minecraft

[mighty zenith]

mid game minecraft is just kind of a slog

[pliant ruin]

i die and lose items and remember losing items is a dumb mechanic

[pliant ruin]

this is the thing lol

there isnt a real midgame tbh

or endgame

or earlygame

[mighty zenith]

nether is neat but it feels annoying to explore sometimes

[pliant ruin]

u can technically do everything thats

seen as ''endgame"

[solar wharf]

every time i feel that and do start that, i get bored right when i get iron

[pliant ruin]

in like

the first 2 seconds

[indigo glade]

I don't play singleplayer, because usually I just get Protection 4 enchantments and then stop. (Protection is too OP)

[mighty zenith]

literally

[split mortar]

I do think maybe a higher difficulty then hard (perma death don’t count) could prob be good for the community

[mighty zenith]

give me keepinventory that makes me lose xp on death

[solar wharf]

armor is too op*

[split mortar]

Like having something where those who want things other then the warden be a threat once you have iron or diamond armour would be good

[pliant ruin]

i absolutely think MC has flaws, plenty of them, but people who call the game bad tend to not actually care about said flaws and instead just complain that minecraft is minecraft and not skyrim

[mighty zenith]

that'd make me feel like death has consequences while not making me annoyed after i lose all my shit to lava

[pliant ruin]

Ultimately i think minecraft is a decent game with some flaws that is generally enjoyable

[split mortar]

Like losing money in terraria but it matters

[deft vessel]

Imo it feels more like a platform for fun

[mighty zenith]

i think minecraft is a pretty good game that really should not have become the best selling game of all time

[split mortar]

I think it makes sense that it got this popular though

[mighty zenith]

in the way that its a flawed game but people would rather call it either a masterpiece or a piece of shit with no inbetween

[indigo glade]

Minecraft has essentially become a game engine for people's plugins, datapacks and mods.

Maps, too.

[split mortar]

Yeah

[indigo glade]

Lore.

[untold oracle]

Lore discussion

[pliant ruin]

Lore!

[untold oracle]

We love it

[split mortar]

I ain’t surprised that it’s this popular, it has had consistent updates meaning for YouTubers there’s always been a reason to continue playing for content and multiplayer can make the content a lot more engaging to viewers

Plus modding had a bunch of big stuff like orespawn or rlcraft so once some got bored of vanilla they could move to modded

[mighty zenith]

oh thats lore

thats lore of my comfort character

[pliant ruin]

I love seeing new people experience lore chat being a glorified gc for the first time

it nevr gets old

[split mortar]

Yeah

[indigo glade]

Orespawn when it... Yeah.....

[mighty zenith]

i liked orespawn

too bad its creator is a nutjob

[split mortar]

I forgor what’s with orespawn but it was a thing that happened

[mighty zenith]

it was kinda just a "random bullshit go" mod

but it was fun for its time

really unpolished in some ways, like terrible hitboxes

[deft vessel]

Average Terraria content mod

[mighty zenith]

or the 32 thousand hp final boss

[split mortar]

Not really to my knowledge

[indigo glade]

The powerscaling for it was certainly something.

[split mortar]

Ew powerscaling

[mighty zenith]

orespawn was minecraft's version of tremor

[deft vessel]

A lot of good content mod are feel like the stuff is added cause it’s cool

[wheat walrus]

https://giphy.com/gifs/flying-attack-chickens-rKUL3O35FX5JK

[indigo glade]

Though, I still find it funny how it still has a more interesting mechanic to get to their mod's dimensions than some modern mods.

[untold oracle]

Bumblebirb

[split mortar]

The new Zelda game looks really realistic damn

[glacial rampart]

yeah i mean i summon beds all the time

[deft vessel]

murder swarm starts playing

[indigo glade]

Please, stop using the basic portal frame that the Nether uses.

[mighty zenith]

aether did it so every mod has to do it

(lord of the rings mod had a really cool portal)

[indigo glade]

I like Twilight Forest's portal.

[mighty zenith]

its also neat but its not very fitting with the dimension itself

[split mortar]

Isn’t that water with roses around it and a diamond goes in?

[split mortar]

You ain’t kana

[indigo glade]

Any plants, but yes.

[true hatch]

Pre-rebalance calamity powerscaling ass mod

[mighty zenith]

man i wanna play twilight forest now

[indigo glade]

It was fitting when the entire thing was just forest, but then Yeti and Ice Queen happened and now it is no longer all forest.

[wheat walrus]

gooby goober destroys space time!!!

[indigo glade]

The only other part of Twilight Forest that isn't a forest is the Hydra's Swamp... which is because the Hydra literally burned it all.

[split mortar]

Such lore discussion we had here

[hot valve]

Hi

[hoary berry]

helloo

[untold oracle]

Hiii

[split mortar]

Hi

[pliant ruin]

meow

[hoary berry]

:3

[hot valve]

We know the Devourer sends the gods to Noxus instead of actually eating them
But do you think he actually does need to eat anything to survive
Like does DoG get actually hungry for like, a fish or something

[pliant ruin]

i doubt dog gets hungry tbh

i imagine distortion creature guys dont have like

basic biological needs

like hunger or thirst

[hot valve]

Makes enough sense

They are drastically different from any life form in terraria

I wonder if they’re even carbon based organisms

[split mortar]

They have to be compatible enough with our world to not keel over and die from just living here

[hot valve]

Yeah the devourer probably spends a lot of his time in the distortion but as far as I’m aware storm weaver is just constantly in the sky

[split mortar]

Yup

Also we do know storm weaver gets hungry since it eats wyverns

[hot valve]

Ah, is that mentioned in its bestiary or the like? That’s actually good to know

[hoary berry]

Storm Weaver
An invasive pest from another dimension crowned by many as king of the skies, soaring across the upper atmosphere at near unmatched speed. Unlike the other beings from the Distortion, the Storm Weaver lacks higher purpose, feasting upon the remnants of the civilization that once dwelled in the skies.

that is the bestiary entry

the lore item mentions that it can "devour wyverns whole"

and i don't think that's yharim being incorrect honestly, unlike assuming it is of the same species as dog
i feel like that's just from people seeing it eat wyverns

[untold oracle]

So there was a planetoid/sky island civilization too?

Cool

[hoary berry]

called Chrysadia i think? idr for sure

[hot valve]

Yeah that part is likely just seen frequently lol

It says that the storm weaver lacks higher purpose unlike ‘other beings from the distortion’
This part is particularly interesting

Does this include the future distortion enemies or just the devourer and Signus

[split mortar]

Hints at the noxus hive mind id say

[hot valve]

Is storm weaver just kind of set…free? Did the weaver itself become free from Noxus’ control? Or was it set loose intentionally?
It does mention the Devourer has been monitoring it, so perhaps Noxus sent DoG to watch it

[split mortar]

I’d say dogs goal is to eat god essence but also to watch weaver at times

[dusk laurel]

iirc all distortion creatures are in it except storm weaver

[hot valve]

Perhaps it got loose and Noxus was like ‘yo what’ and sent DoG to check out what it’s up to
See if it were to become intelligent on it’s own

Although storm weaver is allegedly vastly older…so hm

[hoary berry]

it'd be funny if storm weaver were older than noxus

i don't think that's the case

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[hoary berry]

but it'd be pretty funny

[real silo]

oldest mf in the universe and it's some random fuckass worm

[dusk laurel]

what if its older than primordial light

[hoary berry]

my ass cannot type today

[split mortar]

That would mean storm weaver older then xeroc

[hot valve]

Well to be fair xeroc is not that old

[real silo]

I mean yeah

Xeroc is only 800 years old

[split mortar]

Only like 800 years

[real silo]

Azafure on the other hand is

1800 years old

And the dragons existed even earlier

[hot valve]

If the devourer can actually eat food what do you think his favourite food would be

[real silo]

leviathan

fat fuck

[hoary berry]

whatever the most expensive thing on the menu is

[split mortar]

The restaurant

[hot valve]

leviathan last of its species and it’s the devourer’s fault

[hot valve]

Lmaoo

[dusk laurel]

the best tasting god

[untold oracle]

Alright

How does god essence taste like

[real silo]

depends

[hot valve]

I assume it probably depends on the god

[real silo]

evil gods probably taste nasty as sin

[hot valve]

Like the god who made up the corruption probably would taste vile

[real silo]

good gods might taste sweet

[supple thunder]

silva would taste like generic plant

[split mortar]

Like ichor if crimson god

[real silo]

silva would taste like greens

[spring helm]

Corn on the cob

[hot valve]

Actually, I forget if terraria mentions how gel tastes

[spring helm]

Supposedly gel tastes sweet

[split mortar]

I think it’s just said tasty and flammable

[hot valve]

Slime god probably tastes pretty good then

[real silo]

Naw

[hot valve]

Actually I guess it’s evil slime

[real silo]

Slime god itself probably tastes like water

Paragon of balance and whatnot

[hot valve]

That is a really funny but good point

[supple thunder]

also since it’s the weakest god

[real silo]

The paladins definitely taste fucking awful

[hot valve]

Weakest god we fight

[hot valve]

Yeah that makes sense

[real silo]

You don't want that shit in your mouth

[hot valve]

I wonder who the actual weakest god was

[dusk laurel]

slime god

[real silo]

it's probably still slime god

[hot valve]

Imagine doing the ritual and you’re like, the god of fireflies

[split mortar]

Hallowed one tastes like gaining a diabetes disorder

[real silo]

this is a reference to the ghibli movie grave of the fireflies

[dusk laurel]

no dragon would even have that

[hot valve]

True

[split mortar]

Torch god exists

[hot valve]

Torch God’s whole deal is

Not canon from my understanding

[dusk laurel]

but is it a god

[real silo]

torch deity

torch elemental

[dusk laurel]

torch dragon

[split mortar]

I wonder if the thing with god in its title is a god

[hot valve]

Last I heard is ‘nobody wants to make lore for torch god so we assume it’s a hallucination from all the carbon monoxide’

[real silo]

it's just fire elemental playing a funny

[untold oracle]

I mean torch god could be canon, I don’t see why not

[hot valve]

Dragon of insects god of bugs trust the plan 🥴

[untold oracle]

Would be hilarious to see Yharim paranoid whenever he sees a torch

[real silo]

The fact that the auric soul of flame is already used by providence means there's nothing that could possibly create a god of torches

[split mortar]

I saw someone mention they’re the god if normal light but since there’s no proof of that I think that was YouTube commenters hallucinating

[supple thunder]

it could be providence trolling then

[real silo]

Maybe

Providence manifesting herself through torches is pretty funny

[split mortar]

That would be a lot of power though to keep them burning forever

[real silo]

They'll keep burning even without her

Because even after you kill her torches are still burning

She can just control them if she wants to

[hot valve]

I feel like slime god wasn’t the weakest god
The weakest ones were probably easily crushed by yharim long ago

It would be funny if slime god were the weakest but also just insanely evasive

[real silo]

What if providence is actually the goddess of torches

[untold oracle]

Torch god could also be just xeroc observing you

[real silo]

Like her domain

We know that her domain isn't flame

[hoary berry]

god of carbon monoxide poisoning

[hot valve]

Dragon of illumination

Trust!!

[split mortar]

Pretty sure it’s confirmed she is goddes of ash

[supple thunder]

her whole fight is a hallucination

[real silo]

That's just what the most accepted thing is iirc

Devs haven't finalized it

I think goddess of cinders/embers fits better personally

fits with the theme of imperfect ascensions being lesser versions of the original auric soul

[hot valve]

So the Devourer, if given the opportunity, would almost definitely turn on Noxus yeah? If he was somehow granted the strength to become more powerful
Even if he’s loyal to Noxus over Yharim I doubt DoG is an eternally loyal servant

[real silo]

Dog is actually just noxus' sock puppet

[hoary berry]

i usually imagine god domains from imperfect ascensions as less specific versions of the dragon's domain, not inferior

[hot valve]

I assumed that DoG was a sentient being not part of the hive mind, considering DoG lets things slip about the distortion

[split mortar]

Slime is more specific then gluttony I think

[real silo]

well close enough

Embers are like

[hot valve]

I think slime god is literally just the god of slimes

[real silo]

Dead fires

[split mortar]

Yeah, but consumed dragon if gluttony

[real silo]

I just don't see how ash could make sense when she has her very fucking obvious fire wings

[split mortar]

She getting resprite

I think

[real silo]

I know but I'd be very sad if they remove the fire wings

Those are like

[hoary berry]

i think this idea originally spawned in my head from death -> sacrifice
sacrifice can involve death, but it can also be entirely unrelated

[real silo]

THE provi feature

[hot valve]

From what I know the only things getting resprited soon for providence are some attacks

Not the actual boss

[untold oracle]

Provi has such a cool design

Too bad she’s evil af

[real silo]

Mango apparently wants to redesign provi but idk if that's actually real or not

[hot valve]

Really?

I kind of hope she’s like, not changed lmfao

[hoary berry]

i am perfectly fine with provi's current sprite staying, but i would still prefer it changing

[indigo glade]

I do not like Providence's design.

Sprite, good. Design, not so.

[hot valve]

Really? Interesting, why not?

[real silo]

Providence doesn't like you either

!!

[hot valve]

What do you think providence’s name was before becoming providence

[indigo glade]

Same problem with a lot of old Calamity stuff. It just has random stuff, like crystals and rocks.

The roots too.

[real silo]

There are lots of things to love about provi's design and one of them is that she was designed by an experienced designer

The shapes she has and the way everything flows is chef's kiss

[hot valve]

Also why is the summon item called rune of kos
Who is kos
What is kos

[real silo]

bloodborne reference

[hot valve]

Oh ok

[indigo glade]

Bloodborne, I think.

[hoary berry]

getting changed to mark of providence in the next patch iirc

[hot valve]

ahh

Neat

[pliant ruin]

mark of kos as in uhhhhhhhhhhh

[hoary berry]

this is entirely baseless, but the name that popped into my head when i saw this message was Erika

[untold oracle]

Love the flame wings, the crystals, the vine kinda things that come from the rocks, and the crystal in the core

[pliant ruin]

....................................

I. I see it.

I really do.

That. Thjat fits.

[hot valve]

That works tbh

[real silo]

Erika goddess of embers

[untold oracle]

I thought of Anna lmao

[indigo glade]

I heard that it could be possible that one of the Distortion entities may keep the rune as a summoning item, but I have no clue which would fit them.

[untold oracle]

Anna Johnson to be specific

[real silo]

Erika is kiki, very fitting

[hoary berry]

what does kiki mean

[hoary berry]

okay actually i'm adding this to my headcanon doc

[hot valve]

Based

[untold oracle]

The terrarian suddenly calls her Erika

[indigo glade]

No, Erika is bouba, clearly.

[untold oracle]

Would that enrage her or make her flabbergasted or smth else

[real silo]

there's two parts to the reference

Random people from different backgrounds got asked to choose between a round blue shape and a sharp red shape
Most people chose kiki for the red shape and bouba for the blue shape
So basically kiki means sharp violent and hot and bouba is the opposite, based on nothing but intuition

[hoary berry]

it'd be kind of cool if she'd forgotten her original name in the centuries she has spent pursuing her goal imo

[real silo]

It's pretty cool

[hoary berry]

that's actually quite interesting

[untold oracle]

I haven’t heard that name in years…

[hoary berry]

i remember hearing about something like that at some point

[hoary berry]

true !!!

[untold oracle]

It is already austism

[real silo]

Also erika is a very pretty name

I've been wanting to draw human provi but I got myself into swordtember

[untold oracle]

I’d love to draw too bad I suck at it

[hoary berry]

it is yeah

[real silo]

Gotta suck for months before you get decent

[hoary berry]

i might give it to one of my OCs that i haven't named yet

[real silo]

I still fucking suck but sometimes I make bangers

Well

Self proclaimed bangers at least

[hoary berry]

i can make one decent drawing every year or two

and that's my limit

sometimes it just works

randomly

[solar wharf]

i only ever drew like 4 times in my life

[hoary berry]

like this drawing i did of chess pieces a while ago

[solar wharf]

was never a fan

[real silo]

I picked the name arisu for my mc because I saw some random anime character named arisu and thought "fuck that's a pretty name"

[hoary berry]

other times i try to draw something and it looks like a disfigured butternut squash

[real silo]

on god

My improvement is like raising the average bar

[hoary berry]

i am generating OCs in my head faster than i can flesh them out

[real silo]

I still fluctuate between bangers and bullshit but my recent bangers are better than my old bangers

[hoary berry]

i have seven OCs right now

[real silo]

My coming up with storylines only to not do anything with them

I have uhhhhhhhhh

[hoary berry]

only one of them has any actual depth because i just keep on coming up with more

it's fun but also kind of annoying

[pliant ruin]

i have like

6 (kind of 7 but the 7th is a vague underdeveloped idea) ocs for my personal project

[hoary berry]

or calamity specifically, i should clarify

[real silo]

I have more than 8

Fuck that's a lot

[untold oracle]

In calamity I got like 3 ocs that I remember

[hoary berry]

if we're talking every OC i have overall then idefk

[real silo]

Only like 3 are actually fleshed out though

[solar wharf]

i only have 1 oc, and hes a gunslinger

cuz i love guns

[real silo]

And by fleshed out I mean I already designed and drew their signature weapons and have concrete ideas for them

[indigo glade]

I should make a Terraria OC one day, sounds fun to do.

[hoary berry]

the last OC i did any work on is a cyborg oc based on the wulfrum prosthesis' tooltip

[hoary berry]

and i haven't documented most of that properly yet so it's all still a mess

[real silo]

my mind is a sanctuary of story ideas and random characters

[hoary berry]

this

is me as well

and also a bunch of other random shit but that's not pertinent

[real silo]

Except over time the ideas degrade so much they barely resemble the original

Best example is

My mc was originally a demon slayer AU character

And was just a ryougi shiki clone

Now she's her own critter

[pliant ruin]

come to Menschheit! We have:

-Lesbian who dosen't realize being loved by others is a good thing. Also kills people
-Silly little guy who desperately wants attention from others and named himself after a great stage magician, despite him being a really shitty magician
-Murder hobo robot who is a snarky bastard with No Human Rights due to technically Not Being a Human

[hoary berry]

if i had properly fleshed out all the fanfics and OCs i've ever thought of i'd have a fucking cargo ship full of paper i swear

[real silo]

On god

[pliant ruin]

also the main villain is like if providence and makima had one incredibly fucked up baby

[real silo]

After watching hell's paradise I can't not put married couples into my story

The urge is too strong

My main villains are a fucked up pair

[hot valve]

Slime God’s original name was definitely Simon

Slimon 🥴

[real silo]

Dead woman revived in a fucked up way and caused a plague

[hoary berry]

xeroc's original name was john monk

[pliant ruin]

john primordial light (he did not have any connection with primordial light before ascending

(which makes it funnier.

[real silo]

Xeroc's previous name is dwayne

[supple thunder]

this is now canon

[real silo]

It has always been

[hoary berry]

i'm getting a little bored of my pfp what do i change it to

[real silo]

Shiki

[mighty zenith]

aureus

[real silo]

garbo go away

[mighty zenith]

no

[real silo]

rude

You don't just say no to people

[indigo glade]

Make a drawing of your OC, then make it that.

[mighty zenith]

kills u with my laser eyes

[hoary berry]

^

not quite an option i'm afraid

[real silo]

nuh uh

+parry

[pliant ruin]

i don't draw either

twinning

[indigo glade]

It's only not an option because you believe it not.

[real silo]

My standards are too fucking high it'd take me years before I could draw something worthy of it

[split mortar]

Bisexual mimikeu

[hoary berry]

and i shall continue to believe that

[mighty zenith]

i have no talent so i forced asked mackerdoni to draw me a pfp

:3

[indigo glade]

Stand proud. You are strong.

[indigo glade]

No.

[pliant ruin]

going to tumblr to find cool art to use as pfp

[hoary berry]

yes

[real silo]

I can and have drawn people before but god I am so fucking far from being able to draw something that I can legitimately believe is good and better than my current pfps that I don't even bother drawing specifically pfps

[split mortar]

Prove us wrong and draw

[real silo]

It's not even me self deprecating

[split mortar]

I was talking to goose

[real silo]

yea I know I'm just continuing my message

[spring helm]

hello lore people

[hoary berry]

hi 1233popcorn

[real silo]

Anyways I know exactly how far my abilities are and the average quality of art I enjoy and admire is so much higher than that

The journey is truly long

[pliant ruin]

my drawing skill is very limited and not good

[mighty zenith]

we should all gather up and make a family photo of lore disc regulars where everyone draws themselves

it would look terrible but i dont care

[pliant ruin]

but thts ok because i have passion for other things which i consider myself actually talented in

[indigo glade]

You will never be able to run if all you do is stand.

[hoary berry]

amogus

[real silo]

My ass has zero talent

[hoary berry]

same

[real silo]

I bruteforced myself into getting better at art because I love it so much

[untold oracle]

Same

[indigo glade]

Talent does not appear, it is created through hard work.

[real silo]

Different definition of talent

For me that's called skill

[hoary berry]

okay new pfp

[real silo]

Talent is being able to pick up a skill faster than other people

[hoary berry]

why tf are they so tiny

[real silo]

In which case I have zero talent

[untold oracle]

Yay

[real silo]

But I learned the skill anyways

[untold oracle]

I would learn to draw better but it’s too intimidating

[split mortar]

That’s good

[indigo glade]

Does Diancie produce bisexual lighting by existing?

[real silo]

It's pretty daunting for me too

[split mortar]

Only the pink side

[mighty zenith]

lebian rocks

[real silo]

But I'm lucky because I genuinely fucking love art so much

Love that outweighs my fear of failure

So I just ball and keep going even if I fuck up

[untold oracle]

I think having art and drawing in my ocs doc would make it so much better

Ig I’ll give it a chance

[real silo]

Anyways that's enough gushing for tonight

[untold oracle]

Is there any statement of what was Yharim’s first god kill

[real silo]

Probably one of the gods that tried to brainwash him

[split mortar]

Just weak gods

I think

[real silo]

Evil gods first then good gods

[spring helm]

John Evil

[split mortar]

Yeah

[indigo glade]

No, other than his first few victims became the Corruption and Crimson

[hot valve]

this is so funny lmao

[real silo]

He killed two of the nicest gods like 90 years into his crusade

[split mortar]

Cause crimson/corruption are the ones not in wof that does mean they likely were killed first

[untold oracle]

Who?

[untold oracle]

Silva probably and

[hot valve]

corruption lore item

[real silo]

Tyrian and otonilou

[indigo glade]

What?

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah the ilmeris ones

[real silo]

We still don't know when silva got sunk

[untold oracle]

I don’t know a lot about them

[hot valve]

we will know vastly more next update

since sunken sea overhaul

exciting stuff

[real silo]

I think he purposefully left some behind and contained all of the hallowed just to make himself look good

[pliant ruin]

yeah

the gods that make up corrupt/crimson

[pliant ruin]

we know they were good guys and thats abt it

[untold oracle]

What’s yharim’s iq

[split mortar]

Bad at biology

[hot valve]

Yharim is pretty intelligent

[mighty zenith]

3.5

[hot valve]

Has a good knowledge of war history

[split mortar]

Same point you made

[untold oracle]

Is this the bestiary

[hot valve]

yes

[untold oracle]

You forgot the -

[real silo]

Higher than most people in the community

[mighty zenith]

true

[indigo glade]

No, no. I think... I think I had a stroke trying to read your comment.

[split mortar]

Worded badly but same point I think

[real silo]

I find it funny that some people genuinely fell for yharim's propaganda

Truly a terraria calamity mod

[indigo glade]

Media literacy moment.

[pliant ruin]

Yharim is highly capable when it comes to manipulating, strategizing, and i would say he's intelligent yes

he's just not very wise and emotionally incompetent + ignorant

basically high int low wis dnd character

[deft vessel]

He’s just naive

[untold oracle]

Ppl lack critical thinking so much that they fall to the lies of a fictional character

[random mulch]

lil sketch of a plaguebringer goliath thing cause fun

[hot valve]

Yooo

[untold oracle]

Looks good

[random mulch]

idea was that the queen bee was almost mutilated beyond recognition

instead of just being metal

[split mortar]

Yeah that is what the pbg is, looks sick

[scenic olive]

Aaahhh gojira

Looks cool

[deft vessel]

Rawr

[scarlet violet]

what does the chalice of the blood god actually do to a person who dies to it's debuff?

[lone bolt]

Hey quick question what is known about silva

Like lorewise

[split mortar]

Melts you by causing your blood to be acidic or something

[scarlet violet]

i've seen
"collapses, pale and gaunt, still clutching the chalice"
"melted in a pool of their own blood"
"choked on a tithe of blood"

"was drained to the last drop"

[split mortar]

Had a perfect ascension like xeroc
Is a elemental and a god
Smartest elemental
Blessed braelor and Jared
Can’t die without all other life on the planet already being dead
Is the vines in the abyss and kicked anahita out her home
Thrown in the abyss twice

[split mortar]

Seems like it just does something to your blood so you experience equal damage in some form

So acid blood or draining your blood as outcomes

[hoary berry]

Ultimately, they all fell to her blade and magic—for she knew these foes like she knew the runes flowing through her magic circles, like the weight of her blade in her hand. No matter the strength contained within those fragments of Primordial Light, fragments were all they ever were—loose pieces to be knocked aside and left to disperse into the atmosphere, rejoining their sister rays of sunlight and gracing the planet with their warmth.
can someone please pinpoint what is wrong with this paragraph because it feels wrong but i cannot for the life of me tell why

i'm doing the slightly dumb thing again of writing while not fully awake

[split mortar]

I think it’s fine, doesn’t seem off to me

[hoary berry]

discord doesn't recognise "rejoining" as a word but google docs does

weird

[lone bolt]

Idk who braelor and Jared are lol

[hoary berry]

braelor is the person who, alongside statis, a ninja and member of the onyx kinsmen, nearly killed yharim

jared is the community's name for the primordial wyrm

[lone bolt]

Oh

I see

[deft vessel]

You could remove the second ”she knew” at the begining to make it a bit more smooth

[hoary berry]

i don't have a preference either way honestly but sure i'll change it
see if it starts to look better after a few rereads

i'll add a comment too to remind me of what was there in case i decide i don't like the change

[safe pike]

Like the weight of "the blade in her hand" maybe?

idk

looks good tho

[hoary berry]

wdym?

[safe pike]

rather than her blade

make the blade in her hand

[hoary berry]

i think when i wrote that i was trying to follow on from "her magic circles" to demonstrate that these are her original crafts and she shares a deep connection to them, both literally as their creator and also emotionally since they've saved her so many times
but actually that would be a little better i think, thanks

i am actually trying to stamp out being super repetitive with possessive pronouns where i can so that was a nice catch

[random mulch]

skeleton mcgee with better anatomy

[split mortar]

Looks bored out their mind while dealing with the yhap after a boss

[thorny marlin]

does yharim start being proud for u after you start killing shit

[lone bolt]

probably cuz hes crazy

[spring helm]

Guys

It happened

Baldlamitas

[untold oracle]

She’s bald

[split mortar]

It’s canon for her future

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[split mortar]

Perfect

[mighty zenith]

calamitas after all the stress finally gets to her

her hair's already grey its just a matter of time

[stark basalt]

Moonlord funfact: did you know moonlord has his ribcage connected to his pelvis?

[mighty zenith]

my bad

[split mortar]

I did not, didn’t know moonlord had their pelvis

[dusk laurel]

moon lord had human organs?

wait

that was kinda stupid to say

[spring helm]

lmao

[vocal spire]

i wish i could see people drawing how a fully reconstructed moonlord would look like

with his tentacle legs and stuff

[dull grove]

horrible

[vocal spire]

there's also a glimpse of how he looked like

[dull grove]

and imagine that on a fully moonlord texture

truly horrible

[vocal spire]

nightmare

[dull grove]

tentacle legs

oh hell naw

[glad reef]

so how strong was full moonlord?

[dull grove]

just make him feetless man

[vocal spire]

well, a lot of dragons died trying to stop him

[glad reef]

ah

so very

[dull grove]

bros him

sadly without his legs hes nerfed

[vocal spire]

if he locked tf in terraria would be gone

true..

[dull grove]

[vocal spire]

parry him

[glad reef]

could yharim parry attacks lmao

tru

but he does have yellow arm

[vocal spire]

this is the only drawing i found that tries to replicate how he looked like, on reddit

[dull grove]

nightmare

[vocal spire]

[split mortar]

Not just very, so strong that every strong person on the planet (providence,dog,yharon,exo mechs,scal,yharim)may just get absolutely nuked by the guy with minor damage

[glad reef]

oh

[split mortar]

Not enough glowing or tentacles

[pliant ruin]

full power moonlord would kill every single charater currently ingame in a 1v1

including the terrarian

[split mortar]

And many in a multi fight

[pliant ruin]

and yharim also

and probably noxus too

[split mortar]

Noxus would prob have a chance

It is the most destructive

[pliant ruin]

but xeroc and endgame (actually endgame, like xeroc noxus tier) terrarian could beat him

yeah noxus would

put up a fight

a really damn good one

but ml would still have the edge

[split mortar]

Yeah

Am I incorrect but does noxus also survive our fight with them or they just xerc

[vocal spire]

didn't Zeratros defeated the moon lord

i don't know

[split mortar]

No

Zeratros got lethally wounded and would have not been able to be revived by yharon

It took all the dragons (like half dead and the rest dying or heavily injured) to hold moonlord on the moon

And the numbers of the dragons very likely in the hundreds or thousands

(Granted a average dragon is a eidolon wyrm not yharon level but a wyrm is still extremely strong)

[vocal spire]

oh wow

[pliant ruin]

just xeroc

[vocal spire]

where did moon lord come from in lore anyway

[pliant ruin]

noxus we don't have any confirmation on

[split mortar]

Random alien

[pliant ruin]

but given they're like

[glad reef]

how strong is jared compared to other wyrms and what not

[pliant ruin]

evil distortion guy its safe to assume well probably kill ti

[pliant ruin]

jared is massively stronger

[split mortar]

Jared is currently not that far behind zeratros

[pliant ruin]

like jared is stronger than scal

and exo mehcs

[glad reef]

makes sense

[pliant ruin]

draedon making his "ultimate weapons"

meanwhile random ass fish snake is stronger than all 3 of them combined

youre slacking bro

[split mortar]

Placement of enemies and bosses can be a good sign of their current strength

[split mortar]

Jared isn’t a random fish snake how dare you

[glad reef]

jared is like

the fish snake

[split mortar]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

id imagine we'd kill noxus instead of him just fleeing

[split mortar]

I imagine Xeroc may help to kill noxus instead of us soloing noxus

[dusk laurel]

thats an idea i had for the noxus fight

that might be his proposal

[split mortar]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

after we kill yharim

[split mortar]

We need to be strong for it

And Noxus is a strong guy

[dusk laurel]

still weaker than fovos smh

[split mortar]

Pretty sure destructive wise Noxus is the highest being

But is horribly much worse at a 1v1

[dusk laurel]

i keep forgetting about destructive power

[split mortar]

Tbh isn’t destructive power technically the actual power they have and the battle type of power is more condensed and thus better to hit another guy your level?

[dusk laurel]

noxus can do more collateral damage, not as much in a fight against someone his strength

[split mortar]

Yeah

[sinful adder]

I'm not even sure of this

[pliant ruin]

endgame terrarian is likely around the same level but not guaranteed to be stronger

[dusk laurel]

i dont think terrarian is xeroc level if i read that right

[sinful adder]

terrarian is not even close

[vocal spire]

terrarian can reach yharim level i think

[dusk laurel]

they're closer to yharim if anything

[vocal spire]

that's it

[sinful adder]

terrarian can get a little stronger than yharim

[split mortar]

We’d be a bit above yhar but not crazily imo

[pliant ruin]

terrarian is above yharim but not xeroc level yeah

yeah we're not like

immensely above

[split mortar]

And I don’t think yhar would be close to beating noxus

[pliant ruin]

but still above enough where we can beat noxus which is something yharim likely wouldnt be able to do

[sinful adder]

I am not sure if the player will even be able to beat noxus without xeroc's help

[split mortar]

Same

[dusk laurel]

noxus might be strong enough where we need aid in the fight from xeroc

[pliant ruin]

Maybe not

But i doubt xeroc will

directly intervene, if he even intervenes

at best he'll like give you some sort of divine power to make you stronger

because like

if xeroc could intervene

why couldnt he just

[split mortar]

It could be that we fight Noxus to bait them out into the normal world and xeroc nukes them there

[pliant ruin]

do it himself

[dusk laurel]

noxus suicide

[split mortar]

Maybe distortion has a effect on primordial light

[split mortar]

Typo

There

[dusk laurel]

it might distort light

[split mortar]

Black hole instead of a sun

[dusk laurel]

noxus just eats the primordial light before xeroc attacks

[vocal spire]

noxus when he has to fight the terrarian

[warm gull]

nocus

evil creature

killer of guys

[drowsy osprey]

remover of lads

[frozen zodiac]

speaking of the distortion i just wanna say ceaseless void might be my favorite of the rune of kos trio and that feels strange when its literally a portal
the way when you put it alongside the other distortion beings it stands out so much, even its segment in servants of the scourge almost sounds, "wrong" in a way, like compared to signus and the weaver something is off about it, something that even yharim was far too afraid to confront, something so unknown its bestiary entry is completely empty, almost like trying to find an explanation to it is like staring at the void for answers

[drowsy osprey]

so ceaseless fight is literally just a portal spewing junk at you??

[pliant ruin]

yes

its not even a living being

you are essentially fighting an object

[drowsy osprey]

lmao

i love ceaseless much more than previously

[indigo glade]

We aren't exactly sure what the Dark Energies are, but yes. You are essentially just fighting an animate object and its seal.

[hot valve]

ceaseless has a fight that feels distinctly unique

I'm really curious how the portal to the distortion will look

will it just be a hung up ceaseless void? will it's outer ring shatter and the void part become a large crack in space?

[indigo glade]

Something I've noticed.

A lot of people usually ask few questions about the lore, around a specific topic they want to learn about.

The thing is, the Lore Document that is in the pins is structured in a weird way that makes finding information about a specific topic tedious to do.

Has there ever been a project of making a different kind of lore document or resource that categorises by topics?

[split mortar]

Don’t think so

[clear vessel]

That’s a pretty neat observation tbh

I’d love to try my hand at something like that, but I don’t really have a way to know that everything I think is true actually is

[drowsy osprey]

ceaseless trophy lol

[magic epoch]

thoughts?

only ones i don't like are perfs and sg

[dense panther]

are the draedon schematics being actively directed towards the terrarian? or are they all basically pre-recorded for whoever finds it

[magic epoch]

pre recorded methinks

[pliant ruin]

mmm

scoog ground/water me thinks...

[magic epoch]

No

[indigo glade]

Ground/Water for Desert Scourge, and Ice/Normal for Deerclops.

[pliant ruin]

also i a

yeah

[split mortar]

Since we fight the paladins I think dark poison or just poison would be better for slime god

[pliant ruin]

ice/normal

deerclops

was abt to say lol

[magic epoch]

Ok but

ice normal sucks

[pliant ruin]

it fits him well

it does yeah but idc about competitive pokemon cuz im a hater

[magic epoch]

not even competitive it's a terrible type combo

i mean hey

[split mortar]

I would think ice dark for clops, it’s from the constant and uses shadow hands

[magic epoch]

so is grass bug

[pliant ruin]

but other than ground water for scoog and ice normal for eer

these r good

[magic epoch]

dark doesn't mean "dark" like the night

[pliant ruin]

dark fairy for wof is not smth youd expect but it makes esnse

[magic epoch]

it means dark like evil

[pliant ruin]

theres plenty of pokemon that r like thjat anyways

type superficially dosent make much sense but you stop to think about it and its like

ohhhhhhhhhhhh

[split mortar]

Yeah

[magic epoch]

I felt so smart after piecing dark fairy together for wof

[pliant ruin]

also are you including minibosses

like later on or smth

[magic epoch]

not yet atleast

but luke

clam is rock water

[pliant ruin]

yeah

[split mortar]

When hard mode released

[magic epoch]

tbh the worst part about it is making the inage

it's easiwe figuring out which bossea

[pliant ruin]

yeah

[magic epoch]

like qs fairy. cryogen ice. brimmy fire, maybe fire rock or fire dark. as is obviously water poison

[pliant ruin]

mechs,,,
twins both steel/fire
destroyer steel/ground
SP steel/dark

(given skeletron prime is mr arson war criminal i think its safe to say the Evil Type fits it)

[split mortar]

Yeah

Dog is obviously dark, maybe dark something

[magic epoch]

imo retinazer is steel electric

[pliant ruin]

actually yeah

the lasers r more electric less fire

s ogood point

qs is fairy/flying imo

[indigo glade]

Actually...

[pliant ruin]

cryogen uhh ice. just. pure ice

[split mortar]

Storm weaver is flying electric

[magic epoch]

easy issue

[dusk laurel]

it so peaceful here compared to cst...

[indigo glade]

Is there even a "laser" Pokemon?

[magic epoch]

Levitate

[pliant ruin]

actually yeah

she could be

pure fairy

with levitate as an ab

[split mortar]

Queen slime I would say gets the psychic since slime god dies in that fight

[magic epoch]

i think dog could be dragon dark

[dusk laurel]

providence is like pure fire i feel like

[pliant ruin]

i dont think dog should be dragon

given how

important the definition of Dragon is to the mod

[split mortar]

Yharon should be pure dragon

[magic epoch]

yeah but dragon type Pokemon aren't necessarily dragons

applin.

[pliant ruin]

i'm aware

[split mortar]

That’s some apple dragon

I think

[magic epoch]

bro is a WORM

[pliant ruin]

but given how important and meanignful dragons r to calamity

[indigo glade]

Fairy/Psychic, since I presume the reason they gave SG Psychic is that they are a God that is morally ambigious, due to how little we know of them.

[magic epoch]

without a Y

[pliant ruin]

i dont think dog should be a dragon type

[magic epoch]

it more comes down to "wtf do I do with this fucker

[indigo glade]

Psychic/Dark for DoG?

[magic epoch]

"

[pliant ruin]

psychic dark

[magic epoch]

True...

[split mortar]

Yeah I think psychic dark could work

[pliant ruin]

AS poison water as u said

[dusk laurel]

yharim and braelor are fighting types

[pliant ruin]

brimmy pure fire imo

[dusk laurel]

braelor is like fighting grass

[split mortar]

Psychic poison for dog since it has a serpents tongue?

[magic epoch]

Calclone and scal fire dark

[indigo glade]

SW = Electric/Dark
CV = Dark
Signus = Ghost/Dark
DoG = Psychic/Dark

[true hatch]

We discussing pokemon types for bosses/important lore characters right now?

[indigo glade]

All the Distortion things.

[split mortar]

If scal is dark fire then brim is def dark fire

[pliant ruin]

SW electric/flying is more fitting imo

[split mortar]

Yup

[pliant ruin]

evne though having them all be dark types seem interesting

but

tbf

storm weaver is

[magic epoch]

hear me out

[pliant ruin]

in the lore

[indigo glade]

True, they are unacquainted with the Distortion.

[pliant ruin]

supposed to have ''cut connection" with the distortion

[magic epoch]

cv has dark ghost type + wonder guard

[pliant ruin]

so it fits

[magic epoch]

🧌

[true hatch]

Fairy Type:

[magic epoch]

yes

me when one weakness

[pliant ruin]

plantera is just

grass

[rotund shore]

average hackmons moment

[dusk laurel]

would noxus be dark ghost

[indigo glade]

I gave CV pure Dark type since it is an inanimate object.

[pliant ruin]

astrum aureus is psychic steel

[magic epoch]

levi should be dragon water and ana fairy water

imo

[true hatch]

Me when Will O'Wisp/Toxic/Literally any damaging status move

[split mortar]

Yharon being pure dragon fits with the theming, since only pure dragons or something have auric souls

[pliant ruin]

actually

brimmy can be fire fairy

and ana can be water fairy

[split mortar]

Why the fae for brim

[magic epoch]

Brb this is a fun convo

[magic epoch]

Elementals are fairy (?)

[indigo glade]

Elementals being Fairy could work, but we are also giving Fairy to the Hallow, which is slightly weird when considering both of these things.

[rotund shore]

smth like silva is more fairy like, brimmy not so much

silva gives off fae creature vibes

[split mortar]

Maybe it’s cause elementals are like forces of nature

[pliant ruin]

femininity is usually associated with fairy types in pokemon and elementals are literally Women

plus idk what else coudl have fairy type

besides

quene slime and empress

so its a good way to add a few more

[split mortar]

Empress is a litteral fae god in vanilla

[magic epoch]

Rock fairy

[pliant ruin]

golem rock fighting

he literally throws hands at you

[true hatch]

Ok that first part is like... massively off the mark

Granbull, Mimikyu, Grimsnarl... those are three decidedly not feminine fairy types I can think of off the top of my head

[split mortar]

Earth elemental shouldn’t have fairy since it’s a failed recreation of one

[magic epoch]

It sucks how there would only be two electric types it's so cool

[pliant ruin]

Never said fairy type is associated with feminintiy though

[indigo glade]

Usually, not always.

[pliant ruin]

i said femininity is oft associated iwth fairy type

[magic epoch]

Anyways old duke is poison dragon duke is water dragon

[pliant ruin]

diff things

didnt say All feminine looking pokemon r fairy types either

[rotund shore]

what type is dragonfolly, is it pure dragon

[pliant ruin]

but its common for them to be

[pliant ruin]

dragon electric

[split mortar]

I agree with the dragon offshoots being dragon type with another type

[true hatch]

Dragon Electric

[magic epoch]

Electric dragon or flying imo

[indigo glade]

Just look at Gardevior, Mawile or Florges.

[rotund shore]

right electric makes sense

[pliant ruin]

fishrons r like

dragon water

wyrms are eithe

dragon water or dragon ghost or smth

[split mortar]

Jared?

[indigo glade]

Also, the Tapus are all Fairy, which if we are making the Elementals Fairy, that would line up.

[split mortar]

Dragon dark?

[true hatch]

There's also only like... 3 Dragon Electric types so it's actually pretty unique

[rotund shore]

reaver shark is the pure definition of fighting water

[true hatch]

Ghost Dragon

[split mortar]

Elementals are like the tepu but opposite

[pliant ruin]

jared isnt rly Evil

and also we have like alot of dark types already ill b real

[split mortar]

Fair

[true hatch]

Dark isn't "Evil"

[rotund shore]

ghost dragon is a good fit for me

[pliant ruin]

I mean its literally the Evil Type

[rotund shore]

in japanese its literally called evil type

[split mortar]

Jared is now dragon water or dragon ghost

[pliant ruin]

yeah

[split mortar]

Fair