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#lore-discussion
pliant ruin
They went to eat a star that was a little too stinky so they got infected and threw it on our world
sick tinsel
stupid
pliant ruin
But then we take care of its illness
by literally beating it out of them
(We don't actually kill deus
(We just give it a shower. a violent shower
It just uhm. dosen't look like that ingame rn unfortunatel.y
sick tinsel
will there at least be like a message like Slime God has showing we didn't kill it?
solar wharf
idk what type of gunpowder is my ranger using but it sure as hell is effective against that alien ass disease
pliant ruin
will there at least be like a message like Slime God has showing we didn't kill ...
I imagine it'l look differently once it gets its inevitable rework
stark basalt
hoary berry
two in the span of an hour?
pliant ruin
I think it's starting to be overwhelming
Soon
There'll be nothing left...
only moon lord
devout grotto
Ngl I'm not gonna touch Calamity for a while after I'm done with my Infernum run 🥲
sinful adder
I think it's starting to be overwhelming
I'm already sick of it
novel tulip
yo guys what do we think of this
sinful adder
It's completely reasonable
trim edge
how actually does slime god maintain balance
pliant ruin
it eats stinky evil biomes
deft vessel
Agreed
untold oracle
how actually does slime god maintain balance
By keeping a healthy diet
(Corpses of gods)
cloud ibex
it's closer to mold that spread from the corpses of gods than their actual corpses isn't it
deft vessel
Worlds best mold deterrance
sinful adder
it's closer to mold that spread from the corpses of gods than their actual corps...
It's more like their corpses are the mold
scenic olive
it's closer to mold that spread from the corpses of gods than their actual corps...
Mold
resident evil ahh bioweapon
true hatch
Corpse mold
true hatch
Coming to a dead god near you
cloud ibex
Yesterday I ate a couple slices of bread and then noticed later that the bread had mold on it
My ass is about to turn into Vaal Hazak
scenic olive
wheat walrus
My ass is about to turn into Vaal Hazak
Fr!?
true hatch
My ass is about to turn into Vaal Hazak
Vaal Hazak is cool tho
cloud ibex
Ok as long as it’s not Blackveil I’m okay with it
true hatch
for some reason i used to think mould was a plant
I mean it's a fungus which is.. kinda close
wheat walrus
Ok as long as it’s not Blackveil I’m okay with it
Blackveil Vaal Hazak time
amber cedar
https://tenor.com/view/vaal-hazak-gif-3576922009012359244
why skin
amber cedar
I mean it's a fungus which is.. kinda close
not rlly
they are the same similarness as animals are to plants
cloud ibex
Aren’t fungi genetically closer to animals than plants
amber cedar
different kingsoms
true hatch
Weird elder dragon thing that covers itself in dead bodies
It kinda just does that to camoflague in the Rotten Vale
wheat walrus
It kinda just does that to camoflague in the Rotten Vale
Nakarkos VS Vaal Hazak
Nakarkos the goat
cloud ibex
He’s the bone squid guy isn’t he
wheat walrus
cloud ibex
He’d probably fit in the rotten vale
wheat walrus
https://tenor.com/view/nakarkos-laser-gif-26855769
Felinus cat palico gets annihilated by red beam of death
thorny marlin
isn't yharim like 8,1
split mortar
isn't yharim like 8,1
Ye he tall
stark basalt
dusk laurel
this is truly a terraria calamity
wheat walrus
My ideal calamity scale (not official in any way, just what I wished it was):
Pre-HM: City Block to Town Level
HM: Town to City/Mountain Level, possibly Island Level
Post-ML: Island Level to Country Level
Post-DoG: Country to Continent Level, possibly Multi-Continent Level
Post-Yharim: Multi-Continent Level to possibly Moon Level
Jus my hopes
untold oracle
How did Statis and Braelor go around auric rejection?
wheat walrus
Idk
I remember a dev stating that Braelor was strong enough to basically just tank it
Not sure though
cosmic zenith
Pretty much
untold oracle
I think I heard somewhere that Braelor’s armor was capable of absorbing it well
Statis tho…
cosmic zenith
Statis avoided it basically
wheat walrus
Faster than auric rejection,,,
cosmic zenith
While Braelor had tough armor and enough endurance to tank it
cosmic zenith
...?
wheat walrus
I mean does Statis avoid it by hitting and running faster than the auric rejection hitting
Or nah
untold oracle
They would’ve won if Statis learned spinjitzu…
random mulch
statis just didnt touch the auric parts
wheat walrus
statis just didnt touch the auric parts
Cool
untold oracle
statis just didnt touch the auric parts
What non-auric is there
cosmic zenith
Yeah, Statis can just not touch Yharim
spare pier
That's how you mine it :p
split mortar
I assumed braelors axe wasn’t rejected not that braelor just overpowered the rejection
random mulch
yharim's armor has non-auric sections that statis could strike
cosmic zenith
This is also his updated armor
spare pier
(Clothes don't count in this equation, mind you. Why? Because fuck you that's now it works)
split mortar
Spray painted auric
cosmic zenith
Yharim's armor wasn't this design when they fought
spare pier
(One Piece can do it, we can do it)
sleek halo
(Clothes don't count in this equation, mind you. Why? Because fuck you that's no...
yeah if u wear armor
obviously it auric rejects through that…
wheat walrus
(One Piece can do it, we can do it)
spare pier
That's basically me
wheat walrus
True
sleek halo
While Braelor had tough armor and enough endurance to tank it
my headcanon is still cause of braelors armor probably having some wood components in it
it lessens auric rejection
because wood does not conduct electricity well at all
cosmic zenith
(Clothes don't count in this equation, mind you. Why? Because fuck you that's no...
Could make it so that the current of Auric Rejection can just overcome the isolating effect of cloth
Like how lightning happens when the voltage between clouds and ground is too great for the air to resist
Or how touchscreen gloves work
cosmic zenith
my headcanon is still cause of braelors armor probably having some wood componen...
That's part of it
But the wood alone wouldn't be able to tank Auric Rejection by itself
sleek halo
well
random mulch
a high enough voltage can carve a path of least resistance through anything
cosmic zenith
Yeah, then I agree
wheat walrus
Guys,,, GUYS!!!
Momster huner Awakened Disufiroa!!!
VS
First God Xeroc!!!?!
Who would win!!!
sleek halo
idk..
wheat walrus
sleek halo
Could make it so that the current of Auric Rejection can just overcome the isola...
sounds neat
split mortar
I’d go with the one that’s a sentient sun (xeroc)
sleek halo
also cause most armors
wheat walrus
Disufiroa was entirely designed to be the strongest monster in the series,,,
Outscaling things like
sleek halo
would also be made out of likely conductive metal
wheat walrus
Shara Ishvalda vibrating chunks of the earth's crust
sleek halo
getting punched by Yharim wearing something highly conductive
wheat walrus
Fatalis scorching the planet
sleek halo
might just end up making it worse
split mortar
Oh, then maybe not the sentient sun then
wheat walrus
Both Multi-Continent Level
split mortar
Yeah don’t think the sentient sun winning then
hot valve
Hello
wheat walrus
Exists in the most dystopian, otherworldly hellish landscape
Has the most hopeless ost
Literally the only monster that kills itself accidentally and then REVIVES
Yeah
wheat walrus
Exists in the most dystopian, otherworldly hellish landscape
Has the most hopele...
And not just revive but get a crazy power-up too
split mortar
And not just revive but get a crazy power-up too
That is some old lore scal shit what
wheat walrus
That is some old lore scal shit what
MHFrontier was insanity
split mortar
Very much sounds like it
stark basalt
hoary berry
1233popcorn
spring helm
hello
hoary berry
hi :D
split mortar
wait braelor can just power through the auric rejection
He is crazy physically strong
Plus since he has a weapon I doubt he was constantly tanking it
spring helm
i gotta rewrite the fight i did then
hoary berry
i'm noticing that instead of developing my existing OCs my brain seems keen to just make more
A description of sorts i thought of while brushing my teeth for a cyborg OC:
“Yours is a body of flesh and steel – of bone and circuitry. Your code is your lifeblood; your beating heart is your power supply. Commands travel through your body at speeds beyond imagination. The tenacity pervading your being is that of the purest of lifeforms. Rise, my creation – and heed my words: this world is collapsing. The skies bleed and the very planet weeps. Transcend the limits placed upon us and save Terraria – for you are its only hope.”
i don't like how often i use the word 'your' so i think i'll rewrite it
i'm kind of basing it on the wulfrum prosthesis
Technology and magic have been forever locked in an arms race of imitation and retaliation.
At times they work in tandem, as seen in certain prosthetic limbs.
i want the character to literally be a blend of technology and magic, and for that to show in how they go about fighting and interact with the world
untold oracle
A description of sorts i thought of while brushing my teeth for a cyborg OC:
> “...
Just change it to thy 
Seriously tho you write quite well
hoary berry
thanks :3
though unfortunately there's a difference between writing a short character description and constructing a genuinely interesting story with a well-crafted message
my abilities fall within the former and similar things to that, and even then i'm not very good
untold oracle
I’ve planned several things for my yharim fight now
I think I’m gonna start writing it now
hoary berry
planning is also something that i cannot do
hoary berry
looks very fed up with his unlife
random mulch
he kinda misses having a face
untold oracle
lil sketch of grumpy skeleton mcgee
This the doesn’t-know-a-damn guy right?
random mulch
ye
untold oracle
What does he think after he kills slime god
Considering that’s still quite early in the journey
random mulch
at that point he's still trying to believe what yharim told him despite everything he's seen
so at that point he thinks he did the right thing
he comes to his senses later though and does a big regret
deft vessel
lil sketch of grumpy skeleton mcgee
💀
hoary berry
A description of sorts i thought of while brushing my teeth for a cyborg OC:
> “...
okay my mind is blank of ideas so i won't rewrite it for now
untold oracle
How does the main building or whatever at dragon aerie look like from inside
Is it just some throne room or
hoary berry
we know nothing about it
random mulch
we dont know anything about the aerie
deft vessel
A description of sorts i thought of while brushing my teeth for a cyborg OC:
> “...
”I’ve craved for the certainty of steel, for the flesh is weak” type of character
untold oracle
we know nothing about it
Alr I’ll just headcanon it as Yharim’s throne room
random mulch
goes hard
hoary berry
Alr I’ll just headcanon it as Yharim’s throne room
i really don't think yharim would make many modifications to the aerie at all, personally
hoary berry
ig but i doubt it would be human sized
maybe just a very big throne
so a dragon could sit on it
and then a human obviously could too
hoary berry
so a dragon could sit on it
now i'm just imagining a big nest of twigs lmao
random mulch
the magnificent dragon king on his throne
split mortar
The true zeratros
untold oracle
the magnificent dragon king on his throne
Poor zeratros does not know he’s about to be consumed the second he dies
split mortar
No thought in its head, doubt its brain will be less used when consumed by xeroc
stark basalt
dusk laurel
How does the main building or whatever at dragon aerie look like from inside
its like a giant sky island
random mulch
mighty zenith
post yharim stress disorder
split mortar
P.Y.S.D
warm gull
I've come here from nowhere
wheat walrus
Wjat
random mulch
livid bobcat
Really funny that calamity lore powerscaling is generally considered weaker than vanilla lol
warm gull
yeah
random mulch
because vanilla lore is mostly just the devs writing down whatever they wanted
random mulch
cant take something serious when the creator didnt even take it seriosuly
livid bobcat
Split mod lore is my favorite tho
Imo I like goofy lore sometimes
Like what other game let's you fight cthulu using a firework launcher
random mulch
cal lets you fight a set of war mechs with a frying pan
the silly is just instilled into terraria permanently
cant truly move away from it fully
livid bobcat
Also true
Though honestly good as it is people Also like to be silly with calamity lore
Draedon, yharim/yharon and Scal are characteristized enough to be memed more than most things in vanilla lore
Nothing wrong with that
spare pier
I do prefer how Cal treats its silliness
It's not embedded into the story but like
It's still there
hoary berry
okay my mind is blank of ideas so i won't rewrite it for now
my motivation has returned but for a different thing
i'll take it ig
spare pier
Like, Calamity has no inherently silly concepts
But they become funny if you think about it too much
Plantera is a giant living plant that tries to kill you and has a baddass metal theme
random mulch
wulfrum machines being created with the sole purpose of harassing soldiers
they automated being a prick
split mortar
And not even that well
random mulch
split mortar
Like their tech is probably more advanced then today but they used wulfrum metal of all things instead of something able to actually threaten soldiers
random mulch
wulfrum is another name for tungsten, which is pretty strong
so they probably only had very thin sheets
split mortar
Even then in canon pretty sure mythril or titanium existed before wof and mechs thus they prob still cheaply made the mechs after getting advanced tech
warm gull
I don't think wulfrum calamity is the same as wulfrum real life
random mulch
goes hard, feel free to screenshot
split mortar
Speedrunning lung bone cancer
mighty zenith
goes hard, feel free to screenshot
blue flaming skeleton saying g
glacial rampart
the magnificent dragon king on his throne
yo, yo im king dragon im the king of the lair, and now that you're in here, you're not goin anywhere except down on the ground cause im gonna beat your ass, sorry i said ass i dont mean to be crass
split mortar
Hey chat can something be a god without having absorbed a auric soul or is it just a string being seen as one
real silo
You're not a god unless you've absorbed an auric soul
if you haven't then you're not a god
sleek halo
Hey chat can something be a god without having absorbed a auric soul or is it ju...
Astrum Deus was worshipped as a god
but it’s not a true god
it hasn’t done the ritual to absorb an auric soul
So things can be worshipped as “gods”
but they aren’t actual gods
split mortar
Just asking cause someone was saying Deus wasn’t a auric god but was still a god
wheat walrus
calamity does have a weirdly specific definition for actual gods, but I think that anything that is worshipped and has supernatural strength can be considered god-like, or a god
dusk field
wulfrum is another name for tungsten, which is pretty strong
tungsten is strong but it's incredibly brittle, which i imagine is why the wulfrum scrap looks somewhat like pottery shards
wheat walrus
which is why I think it should be less of "astrum deus is not a real god" and more "astrum deus is a god, just not the usual kind"
arctic orbit
auric gods when argentic gods show up
proven rivet
A god in cal lore is a being that absorbed an auric soul
wheat walrus
as Yharim calls Astrum Deus, a "sinless god"
wheat walrus
A god in cal lore is a being that absorbed an auric soul
I don't think you get what I meant
split mortar
There’s a chance it’s a species though from what draedon says
wheat walrus
I'm just saying that to us, the reader, the definition of god is extremely varied, Astrum Deus may be a species, but to humans it is a god, and therefore can be called one. It is, however, very different from the usual gods in the world of calamity, Yharim doesn't specifically state that Astrum Deus is entirely not a god iirc, instead he says that Astrum Deus is a sinless one or something along the lines of that, because it isn't like the gods in terraria's planet, aka beings who absorbed a dragon's auric souls to ascend to a greater power
split mortar
Oh fair
wheat walrus
I'm just saying that to us, the reader, the definition of god is extremely varie...
My definition of god, for everything, is anything that can be considered supernatural from a perspective, and that is worshipped. Since throughout all of mythology, religions and even fiction, gods vary a lot, but they're usually a "far greater presence than the average", sometimes they hold a specific domain, sometimes they are creators of all, sometimes destroyers of all, it varies a lot.
One thing rarely changes though, "god" is a word that by humans is often used to describe things that are, in a way or another, unexplainable from our perspective (or were), something we give an identity to as a god. "Who creates lightning?", many religions answered to that with "the god of lightning". In other cases it's: "Who created everything?", "It was god.". It's basically our way to explain the unexplicable, or at least was, now science can be considered a more "modern" way of that, but that's another topic I don't really wanna dive into.
My thought-process is that in the world of calamity, something similar always existed, however there were dragons, which fun fact: dragons also are a way of explaining the unexplicable, like the bones of ancient dinosaurs for more grounded stuff, or storms for greater things. Then after the dragons came the gods. The difference between us and calamity humans is that these god-like, dragon-like beings are actually actively present in the world, therefore giving a more concrete definition as to what is a god and what is a dragon. But I still think that these 2 words can be applied to more things other than the usual definition in the world of Calamity, hell even in-universe that is already done as Astrum Deus is worshipped just like a god, despite not being a god by the standard definition in calamity.
holy mother of yappingston
split mortar
Yeah you make a bunch of pretty good points
wheat walrus
also
calamity stars calculation
they kinda fodder
the sun emits multi-continent level light energy every second
these are wall level per second
warm gull
calamitous math
split mortar
To be fair the stars in calamity are balls of mana not a very light emitting thing, their light might not be much but the magic they hold is if we assume a infected star isn’t much stronger then a normal one
wheat walrus
fair
cosmic zenith
My definition of god, for everything, is anything that can be considered superna...
Yeah, God doesn't have to refer to Auric Gods, it's just more convenient and understandable that way
Because if you include more categories of beings in that umbrella, you have to explain how the umbrella works, establish names for the most relevant categories within it (like Auric Gods), or both
sly geyser
hiya lore chat :D
cosmic zenith
Howdy
high lynx
So when yharim said “gods are all crappy regardless of their intentions because they are complicit in genocide” or whatever, he means auric gods right?
high lynx
Why did you say it like that
split mortar
Funny
high lynx
Awesome bro
split mortar
Glad I could help
cosmic zenith
Since “auric” ones are the ones that sucked a dragon
calm patio
🤨
wheat walrus
Since “auric” ones are the ones that sucked a dragon
sigma W dragons!"
split mortar
https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma-stare-stare-gif-27260036
Get your mind out the gutter
split mortar
sigma W dragons!"
I hope you trip on a brick
cosmic zenith
Get your mind out the gutter
You know very well that wording was intentionally rotten
Please, don't do that again
split mortar
Ok
glacial rampart
high lynx
https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma-stare-stare-gif-27260036
Jerma
Have you seen that video that has the caption “JERMA?!” And its a hatsune miku concert but then halfway through somebody holds up a picture of jerma in the crowd
Lore discussion trying to discuss lore
dusk laurel
what lore
high lynx
How often do you think about the roman empire
dusk laurel
depends
usually once a month
(its gonna be like every week cause i have an ap world hist class)
dusk laurel
nice
solar wharf
How often do you think about the roman empire
whenever islam is mentioned ig
dusk laurel
how so?
high lynx
Is rome islamic
solar wharf
no
dusk laurel
well
solar wharf
rome was pretty anti muslim
dusk laurel
eastern rome fought against the caliphates
solar wharf
its moreso rome is the empire that was apart of the war that started the caliphates
solar wharf
eastern rome fought against the caliphates
ye, which at the time was crazy because the caliphates had nothing
thats why it reminds me of rome
high lynx
I dont know the history
solar wharf
persia and rome attacked the arabs who were weak at the time, both manpower wise and resources wise
(they live in the desert)
solar wharf
they lost due to islamic command being way superior
scenic olive
Since “auric” ones are the ones that sucked a dragon
they what now
dusk laurel
persia and rome attacked the arabs who were weak at the time, both manpower wise...
wasnt it rome and persia fought so hard that the arabs kinda just steamrolled them afterwards
frozen zodiac
Sunken sea who
anahita
high lynx
<:wires:1126556862070915214> they what now
Bro everybody has said that
solar wharf
wasnt it rome and persia fought so hard that the arabs kinda just steamrolled th...
the war is years after
solar wharf
as it happened some years after prophet mohammed's death
high lynx
She came from abyss
solar wharf
the rome persia war i mean
frozen zodiac
no wait i fucked up youre right
dusk laurel
ok
solar wharf
they obviously werent in their peak, but again, it was punch of bedouin arabs
scenic olive
sunken sea and sulphur sea are two different places
high lynx
Yeah
solar wharf
so that war was pretty interesting to learn about
scenic olive
high lynx
We already fixed the misunderstanding
scenic olive
didnt she came from the abyss or is that old lore
dusk laurel
yea
high lynx
Yeah
dusk laurel
she is abyss elemental
scenic olive
so by proxy its sulphur sea then 
high lynx
I thought she was just an ocean/water elemental
dusk laurel
so by proxy its sulphur sea then <:ultimatesmug:807498328693669918>
i falter
scenic olive
scenic olive
no
dusk laurel
ok
dusk laurel
uhh
dusk laurel
mokou
high lynx
Or just random letters
scenic olive
high lynx
I hate that cat
dusk laurel
high lynx
The ugly one
dusk laurel
sudden ruin
cool goober
high lynx
Whats his name
sudden ruin
goob
split mortar
<:wires:1126556862070915214> they what now
I word things in totally normal ways
scenic olive
digital cedar
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1161681507459534990.gif?size=48&quality=lossle...
Funky lil guy.
dusk laurel
Whats his name
shrunken slime god core (resprite)
glossy wolf
Is devourer of gods texts outdated?
pliant ruin
Is devourer of gods texts outdated?
Yeah but it's also not exactly out of character tbh LMAO
like it's outdated technically but it still fits funnily enough
pliant ruin
he's a douchebag and i love and hate him for it
ionic fjord
What's the moon lord called in calamity?
soft geyser
Guys is fosvo a fraud
dusk laurel
Fovos prime obviously
dusk laurel
Guys is fosvo a fraud
he is now
rotund shore
Fovos is relatively weak in its current state, then again still stronger then like 99% of living things ngl
wheat walrus
Guys is fosvo a fraud
Fovos basically did a reverse jumping back in the days and they had to basically castrate him to stop him, and even while extremely weakened he's still highly feared
Like
That is the LEAST fraudulent thing
dusk laurel
smh the terrarian butchered him
rotund shore
The fact draedon didn’t dare try to mine on the moon says a lot, there was no telling how much power it still had, even if after the terrarians fight we now know it really is a husk of its former self
Still an incredibly powerful being
pliant ruin
if anyones a fraud in the lore its that mf brimstone elemental
rotund shore
I would say DoG is a fraud but he has the strength to back it up
Technically dragonfolly is the biggest fraud
pliant ruin
fights one of the strongest mortals in the entire narrative
gets her to a stalemate, survives the fight
this fight destroys an entire civilization and kills thousands
early hardmode boss
FRAUD!!!
dusk laurel
calamitas was a teenager at the time
pliant ruin
for legal reasons
i am aware there is definitely an actual lore explanation for this but it's also funny
sehs a fraud....
dusk laurel
true
rotund shore
Brimstone lady is erm cringe
pliant ruin
WHICH
dusk laurel
when resprite
pliant ruin
DOSEN'T HELP BRIM EITHER
rotund shore
Imagine a stupid ten year old fighting what everybody considers a religious figure of sorts
pliant ruin
HOMIE WAS ON A STALEMATE WITH A CHILD 😭
spare pier
Squares up against the entirety of Dragonkind
Take down the King of Dragons
Cannot be killed by the Dragons and has instead to be sealed
Despite literally missing half his body, is still stronger than the vast majority of creatures in Terraria
dusk laurel
fovos was just better
pliant ruin
since we're using hypebeast powerscaling lingo already might aswell
one might say he's like
him
the goat, even
rotund shore
Fovos lost most of its power, but it was like top 5 strongest people initially, it’s still super powerful
dusk laurel
2nd strongest being ever
rotund shore
Fovos lost most of its power, but it was like top 5 strongest people initially, ...
A fraction of the power of one of the strongest things ever is still powerful
glacial rampart
do you think fovos is a good dancer 🌹
spare pier
Ok I wouldn't say Moon Lord is a fraction of his original power
I'd say it's more like
40%?
rotund shore
Yeah fraction is a bit harsh
dusk laurel
do you think fovos is a good dancer 🌹
he certainly danced on chrysadia
spare pier
Around there
glacial rampart
rebecca is your profile picture some sort of miku
spare pier
That's half 
pliant ruin
im bad at math!
glacial rampart
wow
spare pier
rebecca is your profile picture some sort of miku
Yes
glacial rampart
awesome
spare pier
Brazilian Miku
rotund shore
I too am bad at math
glacial rampart
i dont understand the brazilian miku trend but i support it
rotund shore
Goated with the sweet and sour sauce and all
I should be banned from saying words
deft vessel
Buff Alien comes and beats everyone up. Untill he gets sealed away by the power of friendship
soft geyser
> Squares up against the entirety of Dragonkind
> Take down the King of Dragons
...
Oh it is you
soft geyser
the polar opposite of fraud
Nah fraud
rotund shore
how did she fraud
Couldn’t beat a ten year old smh
true hatch
she stole her power from calamitas
I'm pretty sure that's not even right?
stark basalt
warm gull
I'm pretty sure that's not even right?
it isn't I'm just the false information guy
it's one of the few joys I take in this world
wheat walrus
> Squares up against the entirety of Dragonkind
> Take down the King of Dragons
...
YES
Moon "Fovos" Lord the goat
true hatch
Still gets dunked on by some random guy. IDK what he was doing for that thousand years but it clearly wasn't getting stronger
wheat walrus
Still gets dunked on by some random guy. IDK what he was doing for that thousand...
literally everyone gets dunked on by the terrarian
besides if you're sealed onto a moon with yo legs balls everything missing and your brain and heart wide open
you ain't getting stronger
real silo
there isn't even anything to eat on the moong
eager bluff
there isn't even anything to eat on the moong
rocks:
real silo
He is the rocks
eager bluff
why would you eat her
real silo
ain't no way cheese from lore discussion is on the moon
real silo
well fish is food
wheat walrus
a slice of the moon
real silo
fish girl = food
stark basalt
wheat walrus
fish girl = food
time to eat humans
eager bluff
fish girl = food
@lgl KILL this user
wheat walrus
fish girl = food
moon fish iirc
wheat walrus
idc!!!
real silo
explodes you with thermonuclear bombs
real silo
you're helcome
true hatch
I love how one of the best (canon) melee weapons in the game
Is just a giant pair of space scissors
pliant ruin
Still gets dunked on by some random guy. IDK what he was doing for that thousand...
I mean he was sort of
weakened and emprisoned
tbf
true hatch
Yeah but like, going off current ML's strength, unless he got weaker over time I don't see why they couldn't have just finished him off at the time
sinful adder
That makes sense I guess. Maybe all the surviving dragons at the time were weaker than the moon lord?
mighty zenith
i think thats likely, they weren't strong enough to finish him off so they had to lock him away
real silo
Yea and before they could recover their strength the gods started doing their thing
true hatch
Unless Yharon was significantly weaker back then, going off the Zeratros numbers and the fact that Yharon was still second strongest:
Yharon would have still been stronger than current ML. So unless he was dead (in which case Yharim talking about what Xeroc did would be almost entirely made up) he should have been able to solo him when weakened
I understand why they couldn't kill him after the gods started doing god things, but it's the before that that I'm confused on
real silo
Maybe they didn't want to risk sending Literally The Most Important Dragon to the dude that killed everyone else
Maybe he's also busy trying to get all those dead dragons ready for revival
cloud ibex
I would turn lgl into sushi
fucked up
warm gull
my name is water harlow wide
warm gull
moon fish iirc
the cetus
wheat walrus
new calamity calc, this time Astrum Deus throwing the astral meteor and causing an earthquake
the first one on the screen is purely about the kinetic energy, granted it takes far more assumption (the mass of the meteor and its speed) than the latter one, which really only assumes the magnitude of an earthquake (which I feel like isn't a bad assumption)
and honestly I'm up for an almost Small City Level scale for Astrum Deus up to Storm Weaver, who can be scaled to City Level via storm creation
before anyone goes "why does a big extinction meteor scale lower than a measly storm", the earth is hit by thousands of meteors that hit land or water everyday
while this is definitely above average
Astrum Deus' astral meteor is nowhere near comparable to things like Chicxulub, which is an asteroid
asteroid =/= meteors, asteroids are far bigger and destructive
warm gull
your mother is comparable to chicxulub
wheat walrus
your mother is comparable to chicxulub
your house within 98 hours:
sinful adder
asteroid =/= meteors, asteroids are far bigger and destructive
Hey you're wrong about Asteroids. Any space rock is an asteroid. A meteor is any one of those space rocks hitting the earth
wheat walrus
Hey you're wrong about Asteroids. Any space rock is an asteroid. A meteor is any...
fair
pretty sure you're actually right yeah
it's just that usually people use asteroid to refer to the bigger ones and the smaller ones as meteors, but I'm pretty sure you're spot on the definitions
sinful adder
A meteor can also be any size and a wide range of forces because they're accelerating due to gravity.
Also: if I knock over a chain of dominoes that knocks down a house, that doesn't make me house level. You can apply the same thing to anything involving celestial objects colliding
Because orbits work like domino chains
warm gull
is a comet a type of asteroid does it qualify as a space rock
wheat walrus
Also: if I knock over a chain of dominoes that knocks down a house, that doesn't...
well the equation I used for the earthquake was to find the energy the impact would've needed to cause such an earthquake, while this scaling to Astrum Deus' durability is debatable, I think that Astrum Deus being capable of throwing chunks of stars with such force can be scaled
like if I pick up a rock, throw it at hypersonic speeds and it destroys a wall, that would most likely make me wall level since I threw the thing with such power to destroy the wall
now once again, durability is debatable methinks
sinful adder
is a comet a type of asteroid does it qualify as a space rock
Basically yes. A comet is made mostly of ice. I'd have to double check the exact definitions
warm gull
alr
i know it's mostly ice etc. I just wanted to know if being a comet disqualified it from also being an asteroid
sinful adder
like if I pick up a rock, throw it at hypersonic speeds and it destroys a wall, ...
Yeah, This is true. That said, the meteor only landed a short ways in the ground, shallow enough that I bet it could have simply been dropped. That gets complicated because then the real feat is grabbing and pushing the meteor with enough energy to cancel all its orbital velocity. This could happen over basically any duration, but in this case it probably was pretty quick seeing as astrum deus "hurled" the star
wheat walrus
yeah fair it may have been a dropping feat
we don't have enough info about it as of yet though
for now this scale will be suspended ig
sinful adder
i know it's mostly ice etc. I just wanted to know if being a comet disqualified ...
Ok so I looked it up and it turns out that I was wrong
Meteoroids are rocks smaller than a meter, meteors are when those rocks fall to earth and burn up
Asteroids are bigger rocky objects regardless of whether they fall to earth
And comets are functionally the same as asteroids but they're made of ice and so they're called different things
sinful adder
yeah fair it may have been a dropping feat
Not exactly. Astrum deus must be capable of throwing an object the mass of that meteor at a speed equal to the speed it was orbiting
At least equal, I mean
untold oracle
Meteoroids are rocks smaller than a meter, meteors are when those rocks fall to ...
Iirc meteors are the rocks that burn in atmosphere and the meteors that hit the ground are called meteorites
sinful adder
Correct
split mortar
Whole lot of space stuff here I approve
stark basalt
rigid echo
how do planetoids... exist?
real silo
basically mini moons
split mortar
Yeah they vibe in low orbit
solar wharf
Yeah they vibe in low orbit
well, they seem to be in the atmosphere rather
trees are able to grow
so oxygen has to exist
split mortar
The drae log says “low orbit study log” so it is low orbit
Maybe the plants are built different or something magic does exist
solar wharf
The drae log says “low orbit study log” so it is low orbit
different definition possibly, magic or those rocks somehow have a stable atmosphere themselves
we know draedon never went too far into space
split mortar
yeah maybe the planetoids do have some form of atmosphere
Pretty sure at some point the sky is getting changed to have some long dead sky civilisation so it may get explained later
untold oracle
Would Yharim’s actions be justifiable if he only went after malevolent gods like Provi
solar wharf
Would Yharim’s actions be justifiable if he only went after malevolent gods like...
only after the evil gods and the worshippers that fought back ye.
untold oracle
But the fact he went after innocent people and good gods is a no no
”I heard your brother’s wife’s grandpa’s cousin’s boyfriend has a distant relative who worships a god”
kills
celest kettle
He said all gods are sinners regardless of their intention
So i guess he do kill all gods
Or at least wants to
untold oracle
He said all gods are sinners regardless of their intention
This is a hypotethical scenario where he only goes after evil gods
But yes he wants to kill all gods and their followers
split mortar
This is a hypotethical scenario where he only goes after evil gods
Yeah which would be infinitely more justified
celest kettle
This is a hypotethical scenario where he only goes after evil gods
The society if yharim actually only go after bad gods
split mortar
deft vessel
I guess it’s only about the auric soul cause he said that the followers of similiar creatures like Astrum deus were fine
plucky spruce
lore is cringe
untold oracle
I guess it’s only about the auric soul cause he said that the followers of simil...
Yeah
untold oracle
lore is cringe
Incorrect
plucky spruce
very correct
pliant ruin
If yharim went only after the eivl gods he'd be just like
split mortar
lore is cringe
Then leave
pliant ruin
straight up a good guy
wed switch main villains from yharim to idk providence or something 😭
maybe the devourer, even
deft vessel
Noxus maby
split mortar
straight up a good guy
He’d be like as good as he says he is
pliant ruin
not counting noxus cuz hes not rly here yet
split mortar
wed switch main villains from yharim to idk providence or something 😭
Nah we become the villain
untold oracle
I guess it’s only about the auric soul cause he said that the followers of simil...
The thing is that deus is not a god!!! Ppl just saw it eating stars and started worshipping it, Yharim hunts the auric soul gods because they killed a dragon
plucky spruce
he would still have spread the plague on the jungle 
split mortar
he would still have spread the plague on the jungle <:nothoughtsheadempty:123128...
Highly doubt it, plus good gods would exist that may decide to eradicate it themselves so it wouldn’t be as bad in those theoretic
pliant ruin
i mean i imagine a yharim taht dosen't want to kill all gods and just the evil ones is a significantly less emotionally immature yharim given he is wise enough to acnowledge not all gods are evil
and by extension of him being wiser and less emotionally mature he would not release pbg in the wild in a hissy fit
split mortar
and by extension of him being wiser and less emotionally mature he would not rel...
Or he would eradicate the plague instead of freeing it by accidnet
pliant ruin
so in other words he'd just be a entirely different person
plucky spruce
Highly doubt it, plus good gods would exist that may decide to eradicate it them...
i mean, yharim breaking PBG free was just him being whiny becuz bee got hurt... which did cause more bees to get hurt
pliant ruin
Or he would eradicate the plague instead of freeing it by accidnet
the ideal scenario would be killing PBG and respectfully telling Draedon to Leave
pliant ruin
Like not wanting Draedon in your squad anymore is reasonable
so i think ideally just
kill bpg to put it out of its misery
tell draedon "hey man i dont rly want you herea nymore can you leaveplz"
cloud ibex
i mean, yharim breaking PBG free was just him being whiny becuz bee got hurt... ...
People latch onto the bee thing but I feel like he’d react the same way regardless of what kind of animal it was
split mortar
the ideal scenario would be killing PBG and respectfully telling Draedon to Leav...
Yeah, or telling him not to go down the path of overriding the free will of animals and stuff
pliant ruin
People latch onto the bee thing but I feel like he’d react the same way regardle...
Yeah i agree
cloud ibex
It just happened to be specifically a bee
pliant ruin
bee thing is a haha funny
celest kettle
It just happened to be specifically a bee
Funny coincidence i think
mighty zenith
yharim and bees is just a good example of fandom flanderization
split mortar
People latch onto the bee thing but I feel like he’d react the same way regardle...
Yeah he would, I hope people are joking when they say he obsessed with bees (I am), what angered him is that the plague was cruel and similiar to what many gods did
pliant ruin
I do think he might genuinely like queen bees as perhaps as one of his favorite animals based on how he talks abt them but thats mostly headcanon territory, and while it might slightly intensify his feelings regarding PBG i dont think it would be any different if it was like a desert scourge or smth
mighty zenith
silly joke turned into his only personality trait
celest kettle
Its funny tho
pliant ruin
like i think yharim does genuinely appreciate queen bees specifically as one of his favorite animals
cloud ibex
It’s like
pliant ruin
but it wouldn't change much if it wasn't a queen bee
cloud ibex
Idk papyrus with spaghetti or something
pliant ruin
yeah
papyrus does like spaghetti
but he dosen't idolize it as God and Only Eat It and nothing else
cloud ibex
People saying Jotaro loves dolphins more than his own child because he’s a marine biologist
split mortar
Papyrus prob is only so aligned (or what the word is) with spagegi cause he gets taught how to cook by undyne
mighty zenith
papyrus never eats the spaghetti he makes
cloud ibex
(I don’t think he ever even mentions dolphins at all dude wrote a paper on starfish why do people always go with dolphins)
mighty zenith
people dont have the heart to tell him its not good so he thinks people love it
split mortar
How did this go to Jojo and Undertale discussion
stark basalt
cloud ibex
Cause I mentioned how people exaggerate how much Yharim loves bees
mighty zenith
fandom flanderization tends to lead to that
cloud ibex
I do still stand by that the Aerie needs a decorative beekeeper setup though
mighty zenith
agreed
real silo
Auric bees
cloud ibex
Just a small thing next to wherever he sleeps
mighty zenith
i want yharim to have a beehive next to his "house"
split mortar
Plague bringer Goliath should be renamed to plague bee Goliath
mighty zenith
another thing i always wanted is having him tending to flowers before the fight and as you start it he starts to absolutely brutalize you
untold oracle
Plague bringer Goliath should be renamed to plague bee Goliath
It should be called bee
real silo
draedon should name it PC-22
split mortar
Rename plague bringer Goliath to bee bee bee
real silo
Plague cyborg :22:
split mortar
Wasn’t Goliath the first plague entity?
real silo
doesn't matter
well I'm pretty sure he tried to give it to some smaller creatures
which didn't work
so he moved on to big bees
woeful patio
Rename plague bringer Goliath to bee bee bee
I am a sheep
deft vessel
Nah we become the villain
This is some image material
true hatch
Can't wait to kill Draedon, specifically.
Walk into his house and kill him for real
cloud ibex
Good luck
split mortar
Draedon would be the house
untold oracle
Can't wait to kill Draedon, specifically.
Walk into his house and kill him for ...
”Clone activated”
cloud ibex
You’re gonna need it
true hatch
”Clone activated”
Infinite resources vs me with a red katana I found in hell (it has funny sparks)
hushed geyser
The only way to kill draedon is to get rid of all electronics
Ever
I guarantee he backed up on all of them
untold oracle
Draedon is a malware
split mortar
Dradin is inside the electricity in your brain
true hatch
Murasama isnt canon
I need it to re-enact the ending to MGR by stabbing him in the heart with the sword, it's very important.
And if not Murasama, it's the giant fuckoff galaxy scissors
calm patio
Well good luck finding every single backup
true hatch
Anyway if we ever end up killing Xeroc I think Draedon is kinda just chump change at that point. He wouldn't be able to stop us from just killing everything he's ever made (that we get our hands on)
split mortar
Yeah, but he would have plenty of places hidden we wouldn’t find
true hatch
Such a shame we can't kill Draedon. We'd be doing everyone a favour
real silo
What if draetech benefits the world
split mortar
He does plan on removing the astral infection (why though?)
true hatch
He does plan on removing the astral infection (why though?)
It keeps getting mold into his machines and he doesn't like it
split mortar
It keeps getting mold into his machines and he doesn't like it
Seems rather personal, maybe draedon does have a temper he can lose
true hatch
God wouldn't that be something.
Draedon except he actually just wants to kill you instead of study you.
Wait that's just HB-Infinite Hecate
hushed geyser
God wouldn't that be something.
Draedon except he actually just wants to kill y...
He would make a new machine to do that tbh
pliant ruin
Draedon is not exactly
fully maleficial (is that the right word?)
like he has benefitted society to an extent evidently
but he also has
true hatch
He's not evil... technically.
He just has 0 morals
real silo
Malevolent?
pliant ruin
caused atleast 2 ecological disaster
real silo
Maleficent?
true hatch
That's Malevolent
real silo
Malignant?
pliant ruin
Basically he's done things, that , regardless of his morals Not Existing, benefitted others
such as the fact his research basically singlehandedly advanced technology as a whole massively
untold oracle
He’s not evil really
pliant ruin
yeah but thtas not what im talking abt rn specifically
less abt
his morals
and more about his impact on things
untold oracle
He just prioritizes science above all
hushed geyser
Without draedon the world is essential in the middle ages (ignoring magic)
real silo
He's a legend among scientists
celest kettle
Doesn't mean other scientists don't exist
true hatch
Draedon is by far the number 1 though
real silo
What
celest kettle
Technology is still going to advance without him but it would probably be much slower
true hatch
Though we did invent Miracle Matter (and although he thinks the name is fucking stupid he still uses it because it's our creation)
split mortar
There is wulfrum stuff which are more advanced then irl but then made it with cheap metal
real silo
Irl you need a ton of scientists and decades to get something off the ground
split mortar
Though we did invent Miracle Matter (and although he thinks the name is fucking ...
That does mean he has some form of ethics or code to science
real silo
Draedon can do it all alone
split mortar
Yeah
rigid echo
will dreadon ever return and chat again
pliant ruin
Without draedon the world is essential in the middle ages (ignoring magic)
not that far tbh
azafure was in the industrial revolution b4 draedon
so its more like
pliant ruin
theywent from being in the like 16's to having technology better than our own
hushed geyser
untold oracle
azafure was in the industrial revolution b4 draedon
Isn’t the technology distribution very different
Like some places can be very archaic
And then there’s places like azafure
split mortar
Yeah
stark basalt
latent bolt
untold oracle
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
That’s just ridiculous
stark basalt
Im not spamming, technically you "spammed" more than me
untold oracle
It’s a tradition by now.,.,.
wheat walrus
untold oracle
I think that since there’s thousands of auric souls and thus thousands of gods, I bet most of them are quite shitty
You get some really vague and good ones like flames and life
Then you get something like cookies or smth
God of baking
split mortar
Im not spamming, technically you "spammed" more than me
Fair
split mortar
I think that since there’s thousands of auric souls and thus thousands of gods, ...
Either way the average dragon was equal to a eidolon wyrm so they are decently strong
mighty zenith
:<
sleek halo
celest kettle
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
Whistle
sleek halo
https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-1127891775...
I’m going to obliterate this fucker
true hatch
Either way the average dragon was equal to a eidolon wyrm so they are decently s...
Wyrm Tier let's go
untold oracle
Auric soul of making a cup of coffee after you woke up at 6:42
Making the god of 9-5
celest kettle
I’m going to obliterate this fucker
You explode
true hatch
There isn't an upgrade to the Phosphor Gauntlets is there?
sleek halo
hundreds of dragons
true hatch
You can't just canonically punch everything to dead
sleek halo
hundreds of dragons
thousands seems
extreme
and obviously there’d be less gods than dragons
split mortar
Considering auric souls Likely got their powers from the world soul, that means no cosmic domains limiting them even further
sleek halo
but still hundreds
split mortar
Dragon of crude oil
God of pollution
sleek halo
(specifically because there definitely was some gods who absorbed multiple auric souls)
(and had a rly bad time)
true hatch
but still hundreds
How many of them are left though
untold oracle
I’m wondering did they all just kill a dragon or did they just find an auric soul floating around
sleek halo
How many of them are *left* though
dozens imo
true hatch
(specifically because there definitely was some gods who absorbed multiple auric...
Does that just make you explode or something
sleek halo
Does that just make you explode or something
No but it’s not good
solar wharf
lore discussion should become a hive mind, i think we are too seperated
sleek halo
you’d end up worse off
solar wharf
we all should have 1 opinion
untold oracle
Silva does NOT look like she has murdered a dragon in cold blood
solar wharf
we all should eat the same food
sleek halo
Silva does NOT look like she has murdered a dragon in cold blood
Maybe the dragon of life decided she could use it more than her
true hatch
I’m wondering did they all just kill a dragon or did they just find an auric sou...
The soul is in the dragon, you can't just find them laying around
sleek halo
Maybe the dragon of life decided she could use it more than her
they were probably close beforehand
that’s my guess
true hatch
Dragon of Life realised it was going to fucking die and was like "Here you're chill take the soul so some psychopath doesn't get it"
untold oracle
Maybe the dragon of life decided she could use it more than her
Huh, that’s interesting
What would Yharim think if that scenario happened with some gods?
true hatch
Huh, that’s interesting
What would Yharim think if that scenario happened with s...
"It's bullshit no they killed them now die"
sleek halo
Huh, that’s interesting
What would Yharim think if that scenario happened with s...
He wouldn’t be able to believe it
hell as far as we know
Xeroc and Zeratros agreed
untold oracle
"It's bullshit no they killed them now die"
sleek halo
Zeratros was actively dying
And something that peaks my interest
“Zeratros himself was gravely injured. It seemed his power, along with his life, would be lost forever.”
solar wharf
Dragon of Life realised it was going to fucking die and was like "Here you're ch...
if some psychopath did get it, i wonder if they were gonna be the god/goddess of life
untold oracle
I headcanon Xeroc has just been improving his cooking skills during all this time
solar wharf
or they wont get a 1:1 domain
sleek halo
“Zeratros himself was gravely injured. It seemed his power, along with his life,...
This probably means something
true hatch
if some psychopath did get it, i wonder if they were gonna be the god/goddess of...
I mean, we saw what happened with Providence
sleek halo
Something far more
permanent happened
rather than just dying
and being reborn
if it’s considered his power was going to be lost forever
untold oracle
if some psychopath did get it, i wonder if they were gonna be the god/goddess of...
I think the reason Silva got the same domain was because she used terminus (like xeroc did)
split mortar
Moonlord does have the weird tongue thing
sleek halo
if it’s considered his power was going to be lost forever
He could’ve easily overexerted himself
solar wharf
i know that was an ongoing theory but it had NOTHING to back it up
true hatch
I think the reason Silva got the same domain was because she used terminus (like...
I don't think that's canon
solar wharf
beside the convinence place of the terminus
true hatch
i know that was an ongoing theory but it had NOTHING to back it up
Nope I'm pretty sure it's still completely non-canon with no evidence
untold oracle
I don't think that's canon
Oh alr
sleek halo
He could’ve easily overexerted himself
Or Fovos did something to him that wasn’t able to be fixed
untold oracle
I heard it here : P
true hatch
Hell we don't even really know what the Terminus is outside of Xeroc having some kind of connection to it
split mortar
I think the reason Silva got the same domain was because she used terminus (like...
Pretty sure terminus is used in any god ritual, it is said to have ended a era
untold oracle
❓
Do yall think Noxus wants to pull a prank and make the whole world corruption
What does he need all that essence for
celest kettle
What does he need all that essence for
Yummers
split mortar
i know that was an ongoing theory but it had NOTHING to back it up
Also what theory? The one that xeroc consensually absorbed zeratros
true hatch
Also what theory? The one that xeroc consensually absorbed zeratros
That the Terminus is the crux of any god ritual
untold oracle
I don’t think it’s needed for every single one
The gods just pass it around or smth lmao
true hatch
Actually.
Speaking of perfect rituals, it wouldn't surprise me if the ritual was perfect because the Dragon agreed to it; its soul wasn't fighting it
untold oracle
If that really was the case, and Yharim would realize that, who would he blame
split mortar
Actually.
Speaking of perfect rituals, it wouldn't surprise me if the ritual wa...
Yeah, that or attunement is needed (basically same thing I think)
split mortar
If that really was the case, and Yharim would realize that, who would he blame
He would be in denial
solar wharf
idk about the idea of dragon of life giving silva its soul
that sounds counterproductive
silva is an elemental afterall
untold oracle
Huh?
solar wharf
she isnt exactly healthy when out of control
untold oracle
Since when
pliant ruin
i mean
solar wharf
expand their domain
solar wharf
ye but i assume that instinct still exists
solar wharf
hence why she was deemed a threat before ascending
celest kettle
expand their domain
Domain expansion: vines
untold oracle
expand their domain
Domain expansion
pliant ruin
have relations with humans and not instantly cover them in moss or something
split mortar
Yeah but she is the elemental of nature, if nature can mean life in and not just forests then she may be really good for that job
true hatch
hence why she was deemed a threat before ascending
By who? Yharim?
The guy who fucking hates gods
solar wharf
By who? Yharim?
The guy who fucking hates gods
before ascending
untold oracle
Yeah but she is the elemental of nature, if nature can mean life in and not just...
I did not know that lol
solar wharf
she was trapped twice
sleek halo
The rest of them are literally just
solar wharf
one by yharim, after ascending
sleek halo
Elements
split mortar
I did not know that lol
It’s not said in game iirc
sleek halo
have relations with humans and not instantly cover them in moss or something
Imo she probably would’ve gotten smarter
true hatch
The rest of them are literally just
TBF 3-4/5 of the Elementals we fight are just fragments of the actual elementals.
And the last is Anahita, who kinda has a reason to be pissed off (Silva and Draedon fucked up her house)
untold oracle
The concept art doesn’t look really elementaly
sleek halo
after the auric soul
solar wharf
have relations with humans and not instantly cover them in moss or something
yes, she probably isnt as outrageous as the others but i assume that instinct still effect her
split mortar
The concept art doesn’t look really elementaly
Concept art is after ascension I think
pliant ruin
She has part of the personality and mental of the dragons in her cuz auric soul remnants
And i wonder if like
sleek halo
but the auric souls they inherited gave them actual full intelligencr
pliant ruin
After ascending
true hatch
I assume most dragons were like
I don't think Yharon is particularly special, I think they're all Sapient
pliant ruin
she obtained Actual Emotions
sleek halo
Yeah
pliant ruin
and was like ''wait what the fuck"
also yeah i think dragons were all fully sapient,a tleast auric dragons
they were like a society/civilization p much
split mortar
Eidolon Wyrms are like atleast crow level intelligent I would say
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If not also fully sapient
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Eidolon Wyrms are like atleast crow level intelligent I would say
Imo Primordial reaches full sapience
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like dolphins or octopi
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Imo Primordial reaches full sapience
blessed by silva and the oldest wyrm
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meanwhile follies and fishrons are more in line with less intelligenta nimals
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Imo Primordial reaches full sapience
It is blessed by god of life to be fair
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honestly
silva ascending because god = more power = domain expands more easily
and then
getting Emotions and Thoughts she wasn't Expecting
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meanwhile follies and fishrons are more in line with less intelligenta nimals
Poor Follies. I think they're actually rather smart, just overly aggressive and territorial because they got hunted to near extinction
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And now having to struggle beetween the fact she's a Actual Person and not a glorified natural disaster whilst also having those instincts deep down
would make
for a really interesting development
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I find it a bit weird that brim is so strong compared to other elementals though
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I mean
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Poor Follies. I think they're actually rather smart, just overly aggressive and ...
Follies i imagine are about as smart as like. ferrets
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I find it a bit weird that brim is so strong compared to other elementals though
All the others are fragments.
Anahita and Brimmy are just like... the whole ass Elemental though
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like yeah
they can be clever
but they're still animalistic and there's more intelligent animals out there
even if they're not like
stupid
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All the others are fragments.
Anahita and Brimmy are just like... the whole ass...
Yeah but brimmy was post yharon levels of strength
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actual stupid animals r like idk weevil
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Yeah but brimmy was post yharon levels of strength
Why?
because she fought Cala?
I don't think 13 year old Cala was Yharon+ levels of strong
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Yeah but like
still blew up a city
i dont think a mid hardmode boss (even with cal's ''help") would destroy
a entire civilization
which is why i say brimmy is a FRAUD
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I mean... it's entirely possible it was all Calamitas. Brimmy fucking died but they're an Elemental so they just came back
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(Realistically there is probably an actual lore explanation for this and i am aware of that but also
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to get part of brimmys magic
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(It's hilarious without context
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to get part of brimmys magic
hell, it could be what woke her up
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Why?
because she fought Cala?
I don't think 13 year old Cala was Yharon+ level...
Omni has scaled current cal to like city+ they’re still going to be lategame levels strong even if not current scal
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Concept art is after ascension I think
Yes it is
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Imo Scal is always the same level of strength
what improves is her control
over it
and actually being able to output it consistently
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Yes it is
Ascension changes the form of a creature a lot, providence was a human as an example so that’s prob why she don’t look like a elemental
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I mean... it's entirely possible it was *all* Calamitas. Brimmy fucking died but...
If the Brimstone Elemental died while fighting Calamitas, the entire city wouldn't have been destroyed.
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Omni has scaled current cal to like city+ they’re still going to be lategame lev...
I mean even in that case it's entirely possible that it was all Calamitas and Brimmy was just there
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I mean even in that case it's entirely possible that it was all Calamitas and Br...
They were complete equals in the fight
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Does it every say they were equals? or just that they clashed and everyone assumed they were equals
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Does it every say they were equals? or just that they clashed and everyone assum...
"They fought to a standstill, fire against fire.
Neither were victorious, with the city razed by flames despite her intention."
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Yeah, that's pretty clear cut to me lol
I still don't see why Brimmy being particularly strong for an Elemental is too hard to like... accept though
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I still don't see why Brimmy being particularly strong for an Elemental is too h...
I’m just finding it strange that brimmy could likely solo god ascended silva
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I assume it’s if you scale brimmy to the same level as cala at that time
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Because scal was stated even before reaching her current skill level that no god could rival her
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That seems like super cope lol.
Did Yharim say that? I feel like Yharim said that.
Not to mention that Xeroc is literally right there and completely stomps Calamitas
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Xeroc is the exception yes, but even strong gods (sacrifice and providence) are very much below her
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Because scal was stated even before reaching her current skill level that no god...
All the Gods she fought against.
"In my campaigns, I counted on her sheer capacity for annihilation as my ace in the hole.
No man: army, city or God could stand against her unbridled fury."
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All the Gods she fought against.
And a significant number of gods are like... chump tier
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It isn't all Gods, just the ones she was sent to fight against.
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Yharim Tackle vs Terrarian Godslayer Dropkick
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what are we taalking about
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Brim and scal I think
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what are we taalking about
Calamitas powa level
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i dont think calamitas as a 13 year old was as strong as a fully trained war ptsd veteran calamitas
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Xeroc is the exception yes, but even strong gods (sacrifice and providence) are ...
We don't even know how strong Sacrifice was.
It's possible Sacrifice was significantly stronger than Ravager is currently
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Scal was always that strong, but just has better control now
and can output more
That’s my headcanon
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Her skill increasing is supported by the bestiary
Don’t think we know about power though
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I think in azafure she had little control and thus just shot massive bursts of energy, destroying a lot
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Scal was always that strong, but just has better control now
yeah ia gree
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I think in azafure she had little control and thus just shot massive bursts of e...
Pretty sure that’s supported by the bestiary
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(Also probably tiring her a lot too)
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Ragravificer
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Providence is also significantly weaker since the Crusades.
She drew power from her followers. They're all fucking dead, which probably dropped her powerlevel down a ton
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Soul slurpers are a worse version of soul seakers
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Providence is also significantly weaker since the Crusades.
She drew power from...
I’d think it’d be permanent tbh
also I doubt her worshippers are all dead
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a significant amount provided
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i always assumed it to be more so
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huh, does Scal actually still getting stronger til now?
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Is it ever stated that her drawing power from her worshippers is like
Other than Yharim saying so
no
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she gets power from her followers as in
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like could she surpass Yharim if given time
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Her worshippers suicided in her name which prob gave a bunch of power to her